Kimmel, Conan, and the Truth About Leno-Hate
Jimmy Kimmel’s evisceration of Jay Leno last night was incredible – as much of the Internet has noted – but not just for the reasons people are giving.
After Kimmel’s devastating Leno impersonation the other night, having Kimmel on his show was a ballsy move on Jay’s part, as he took a risk that Kimmel would play nice.
Needless to say, the risk did not pay off.
Instead, Kimmel sensed the blood in the water, and with the late night audience about to be thrown up for grabs, dove head first toward “Team Conan.”
But it was his ending salvo that added a surreal sense to this already far-too-surreal affair, when he unleashed the following.
“Listen Jay. Conan and I have children. All you have to take care of is cars. We have lives to lead here. You have $800 million. For god sakes, leave our shows alone.”
With this one devastating verbal grenade, Kimmel exposed the ridiculousness of the whole “Team Conan” movement.
Because whatever percentage of truth to jest Kimmel intended, people are reacting as if Leno is actually taking food out of the mouths of Conan’s children, for having the audacity to accept a promotion back to a position he once held, loved, and excelled at.
The assumption throughout has been that Jay is the big, bad, unjustly entitled rich white man picking on the young, vulnerable O’Brien – himself a 46-year-old man who, when he moved to L.A., purchased a $10.5 million mansion in Brentwood that reportedly includes a wine cellar, an outdoor kitchen, a pool, a spa, and a screening room.
It really is a regular David v. Goliath, isn’t it?
But putting aside that this is just a big multi-millionaire catfight, the truly bothersome assumptions here are that a) Jay Leno orchestrated this as part of some nefarious plan; and that b), he owes it to the world and to Conan to make his career decisions based not on what’s best for him, but on what’s best for Conan O’Brien.
By 2004, Jay had been the undisputed king of late night television for about a decade. But Conan decided that he had paid his dues at 12:30, and was ready for bigger things. Fair enough: he did a great job, overcoming negative perceptions to develop a brilliant, unique, and popular show.
So to keep him at NBC, it was proposed that Conan would be given the job of Tonight Show host – in other words, Jay Leno’s job – if he stayed. And from what we know, Conan had NO trepidation about displacing Jay Leno, a man who had worked his ass off to get where he was, clearly loved where he was, and had succeed wildly. Conan wanted to move up, and if Jay Leno had to be moved out of the way, so be it.
Now, I’m not begrudging Conan for making the best possible deal, just as I don’t begrudge Leno for it now. I’m just making clear that Leno was not the only self-serving participant here.
But then there’s the question of why Leno agreed to it. He clearly didn’t want to retire. And, he was on top. All evidence points to Leno agreeing to the deal, as he claimed, so that Conan wouldn’t have to go through what he himself had gone through with David Letterman.
Which means that the reason this entire debacle is happening is that back in 2004, Leno, in a move that was actually selfless to a level unheard of in Hollywood (if not also wildly spineless and misguided), did exactly what “Team Conan” is demanding he do now — sacrifice himself for Conan — and it proved to be the stupidest thing he could have done!
The bottom line is that everyone has the right to act in their own self interest – Jay Leno has no more obligation to Conan O’Brien than Conan O’Brien has to Jay Leno – and the real villain here is NBC, who was stupid and greedy in trying to keep both men at the network.
So let’s stop acting like Conan – who, if he never earns another dollar, will still have more money than most of us combined – is entitled to The Tonight Show, and that Jay Leno owes it to everyone to slink away to some remote mountain in the Himalayas.
And Jimmy – don’t worry about Conan’s kids. They’ll be fine.
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Mr. Getlen, you’re making far too much sense. Don’t you understand it was always Conan’s dream to host The Tonight Show?
Leno sacrificed himself by moving to primetime? As someone who is a fan of the 10pm type programming, I didn’t like Jay’s move, at all. And I like Jay. But, I think he made a bad move. He should have retired, while he was still on top. Leave on a high note, when the audience still loves you….while the audience is still on their feet…or something like that. haha
Are you saying that Conan threw a hissy fit back in 2004, and wanted the Tonight Show, which basically forced Jay out of the way? Or was it all one big deal – move Jay to 10, move Conan to Tonight Show?
No matter how it happened, I think it looks like Jay dabbled in primetime, failed, and now he is slinking off back to late night, and is pushing Conan out of a job. I just don’t know how he can go back there, and ever have it feel the same.
The whole thing just leaves a bad taste.
Team Conan!! ;O)
And if Jay is the sacrificial lamb in all of this, why are all the comics ganging up on him? Does he have a bad rep in the comic world? He always seemed like a nice, stand up guy, so I was surprised everyone was going after him.
Larry G here
@Pat – Yeah, sorry. Didn’t mean to be a dream crusher, but, you know – reality does tend to intervene.
@Sara – Jay has a HORRIBLE rep in the comedy world. He was a top stand-up early in his career, one that many comics (including Letterman) both looked up to and learned from. Dave is even on the record as saying that Leno influenced his style. But the way he shifted his style on The Tonight Show – making it safe, dumb, etc. – jarred much of the comedy community. Even Bill Hicks – whom Jay helped greatly early in his career – publicly turned his back on Jay. So yes, the enmity from the comedy community is about much more than just this nonsense, but about what many feel are years and years of betrayal on Jay’s part. And to your earlier comment, the 10:00 show was a last minute solution that just came up last year – but otherwise, yes, Jay was pushed out of the way for Conan back in 2004, even though he was on top.
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ah…well that changes things a little bit. weird that he has a bad rep though. who knew! ha
i still believe he shouldn’t return to tonight show though. it has just gotten too funky.
Team Jay and Conan, now. :O)
I remember hearing that Conan was being offered deals from other networks, and he agreed to stay because he was promised the Tonight Show, but I don’t remember people saying Jay was being forced out. I can’t believe if Jay stood his ground 5 years ago that NBC would have said, “sorry, we’re picking Conan.”
They might have nudged Jay, but “pushed” him, I think that is a bit much.
Seeing how Leno and his agent flat-out pushed Johnny Carson out, your attempt at gaining sympathy for Jay getting nudged out out rings hollow. (Even Letterman, who HATED “The Late Shift” and how it aired out the dirty laundry, has come around to more or less confirm Bill Carter’s telling of this story…)
Still, I don’t blame Leno for Zucker’s effort to prevent either host from defecting to a rival network ending up in utter disaster. The blame lies squarely there, and how this man remains employed is both a complete mistery and an ongoing case study as to why news producers, by nature, make crappy executives.
But it doesn’t stop me from thinking Leno’s a complete idiot.
If, IF he had stuck with his “classy decision” to “hand the seat to Conan” (no matter how much this 2004 speech was really to save face), his Tonight Show departure could’ve triggered a celebrity sendoff to retirement the likes of which hasn’t happened since Carson. Even those who detest his style of comedy would’ve paused to recognize a man who hosted the show for so long and left at the top. His name would have remained synonymous with class. He would’ve remained a sought-after host for high-profile projects long afterward.
Instead, Jay’s final week on the Tonight Show was fairly half-assed; nobody was going to make a huge tribute when all he was doing was moving to prime time. And now that he bombed in primetime, NBC decides that rather than just end the “52-week experiment”, it’s Conan that gets the shaft just 7 months in. And you insinuate that this is a fair result. Please.
Place the blame where it belongs, with Team Zucker. But spare me the defense of Jay Leno. He doesn’t deserve the treatment he’s getting; he should be getting far worse.
Boo Hoo. Leno as the favorite son of Zucker and company gets his job back after finding out that nobody wanted to watch one day much less FIVE days of his show before 11:35p.m. O’Brien gets street cred for flipping the finger at the Peacock, PLUS a hunk of money for insulting his bosses on THEIR airtime! Letterman gets to eat the biggest Schadenfreude sandwich in the world. They are all multi-millionaires. Even the idiot savant C(i don’t know) EO Jeff Zucker gets to stick around for awhile. Sigh.
WELL WRITTEN!!!! This is exactly what I’ve been saying for a week. Unfortunately, some people will continue to think what they want no matter how much you explain it to them.
Larry Getlen wrote:
@Sara – Jay has a HORRIBLE rep in the comedy world. He was a top stand-up early in his career, one that many comics (including Letterman) both looked up to and learned from. Dave is even on the record as saying that Leno influenced his style. But the way he shifted his style on The Tonight Show – making it safe, dumb, etc. – jarred much of the comedy community. Even Bill Hicks – whom Jay helped greatly early in his career – publicly turned his back on Jay. So yes, the enmity from the comedy community is about much more than just this nonsense, but about what many feel are years and years of betrayal on Jay’s part.
“Betrayal”? Oh, brother. The Tonight Show was a place where you could see Lenny Bruce or George Carlin for six or seven minutes, and then they would leave. Neither would have been considered potential hosts of the show!
Reading this part of your essay brings to mind an episode of M*A*S*H (“Fallen Idol”) in which Radar O’Reilly’s image of Hawkeye Pierce is shattered when he witnesses Pierce get so nauseous after a night of boozing that he leaves patients on the operating table to heave. When O’Reilly confronts Hawk about it, Pierce blows his stack.
…[T]he hell with you. How dare you! The hell with your Iowa naivete, and the hell with your hero worship and your teddy bear, and while you’re at it, the hell with you! Why don’t you grow up, for crying out loud? I’m not here for you to admire…”
This, of course, is not a perfect parallel. There is no true comparison between having the #1 daily comedy program on television and emergency surgery on soldiers blown to pieces. But the ridiculous notion that Leno was supposed to live up to the expectations of Bill Hicks when he took over the Carson job made me think of it. I’m not in the funny biz, so I don’t understand the sainthood some have bestowed on the likes of Hicks unless it is another symptom of the simmering elitism that has bubbled over on Late Show in recent years (and has always been on open display on Bill Maher’s programs).
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