A House Divided? The War Within The Tea Party Movement Heats Up
The Tea Party movement is often seen by outsiders as one big monolithic force, especially by its detractors (who occasionally use nastier words than “monolithic” to describe it). But lately, there has been a mounting civil war between two rival factions of Tea Partiers.
One big bone of contention: the GOP’s growing involvement with the movement.
The two main parties here are the Tea Party Patriots, the older group of the two, and the Tea Party Express, which was founded by GOP consultants, including Sal Russo and Joe Wierzbecki. The Patriots accuse the Express of being a GOP front organization; the Express accuses the Patriots of being too disorganized to accomplish anything. Now, tensions seem to be coming to a head as one TPPer who did work with the TPE, Amy Kremer, is being sued by the TPP.
From TPMMuckraker (emphasis added):
Emails obtained by TPMmuckraker detail how a rogue faction of Tea Party Patriots is lashing out at the board for going ahead with the suit against Kremer, and challenging the board’s financial management, triggering a state of acrimony that appears serious enough to threaten the upstart movement’s ability to continue to mount an effective grassroots challenge to the Obama agenda — just days after the House passed the health-care-reform bill that the Tea Partiers view as socialism.
In an email to fellow TPPers sent Wednesday, Gerald Merits called the lawsuit “the single most insane act of self destruction I have witnessed since this country elected Obama,” and asked “how much donor money is being spent of (sic) suing Amy?”
For the rest of the day, the email list was consumed with charges and counter charges. In response to Merits, Josh Parker, a supporter of the board, wrote: “Amy created a situation where TPP couldn’t do anything BUT sue her, then she goes on with her poor me crap. She brings this on herself and all the rest of us.”
One side note: it’s odd how the unapologetically left-wing Talking Points Memo has become a small clearinghouse for internal dirt from the right. Last month, the Scozzafava campaign (remember the Scozzafava campaign?) tried to portray The Weekly Standard’s John McCormack as a nut by leaking their correspondence to TPM; it backfired. Politico also reported on the internal struggle yesterday, but TPMMuckraker has a treasure trove of internal e-mails that underscore the depth of the feud. Given that their style is typically to extensively cover a few topics at a time, the odds are pretty good that if there’s more discord, they’ll find it and publish it.
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I was at a rally for the Tax-Day tea party or April 15th. It was my last. I was prepared to meet other people that were for fiscal responsibility, ending our idiotic and impotent nation-building, and returning civil liberties that the Bush administration had stripped, and those the Obama administration was prepared to strip.
How very wrong I was. Other libertarian-minded people were in attendance, but these were extremely rare. Many didn’t know why they were there. Most were religious fanatics and blind Bush supporters who clearly didn’t read the memo. Most were convinced that the rally was a pro-Jesus, anti-Obama rally. Most had forgotten that it was Bush who dove into the socialist agenda of giving public money to private companies, an act that they were oh-so-happy to peg squarely on Obama.
The saddest part about all this: even half of the Ron Paul supporters out there are convinced that 9/11 was an inside job. *facepalm* I guess this proves that even when there is a negligibly-sized third option, the nutcases that aren’t already lemmings to a major party clamor to jump on the bandwagon, bringing with them the destruction of any credibility and logic that the emerging libertarian voice might have had.
So I guess my next question is…are there any cheap islands for sale?
When do we get the “War within the Democrats” article? The Kos Klan already declared war on the Blue Dogs, and Olbermann last night fired the artillery on them.
I guess for Democrats, Conservatives and Republicans must lean left (or else get taunted for being a “small tent party”) but Democrats cannot lean right or be a “non progressive” without being cut off from the party.
@germ: Has anyone leaked memos to a blogsite?
Magister says:
November 13, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Didn’t need to. It’s all out in the open. And yet, the media and this site (despite KOS and KO talking about it, thus relevancy) still doesn’t want to report on any internal conflicts. That’s why we’ve heard so much about “Republicans blocking healthcare,” and while it was the one Republican House member who signed the bill who got the press (not the 39 Democrats who didn’t). Sure it’s a double standard… but I guess we should be used to that by now.
I like the Tea Party movement and think we need a revolution against big gov’t and the loss of our liberties. But I don’t like key republicans speaking at these events; they were in charge for eight years and blew it! Republicans talking about small gov’t and civil liberties is as ridiculous as Obama talking about fiscal responsibility. The TP movement needs a very concise message and they need to clean out the “fringe” element. I hope Joe Callan’s observations are not the norm at these rallies…..if so, the media will have a field day highlighting the 10% fringe and ignore the larger message.
In regards to the media, they are focusing a great deal of time focusing on how disorganized the republican party is right now. I think it is because they have a tough time trying to convince the public that Obama’s policies are good for the economy and the country. Therefore, focus on the enemy (republicans).
@ImNotBlue: I’ll agree that some posts on this site get a little too close to just being about politics and once or twice, I’ve inquired about the media angle in a comment. But this time, it appears that one side in a political battle may be leaking to a political blog and though it’s marked as a “side note”, it seems this could justify a posting to the “online” portion of a media site.
I was pissed when the Republicans started showing up at these things around the country, basically trying to hi-jack the movement. Most Republicans don’t even get it. This is not a Republican – Democrat thing, it’s a pissed off taxpayer thing, and while the Republicans talk a good game, they’re just the red cheek which is attached to the blue cheek with a sphincter. It’s the same with health care. The Democrats have us bent over and grabbing our ankles, while the Republicans say, no, hey, we’ve got these great ideas! Don’t take a wrecking ball to the kitchen, just fix the leak, etc, etc. Hey, if you guys have all these great ideas, why didn’t I ever hear about them until the Democrats control everything and do a mass takeover? Where were these great ideas when you won the house and senate in 1994, right after Clinton tried it? You knew it would happen at some point when the Dems controlled things again. But no, the Republicans were just fine with the leaky pipes then, weren’t they? Throw all the bums out.
It’s not a “monolithic” thing. Those people are a messolithic mass of recessive genes and XY chromosomes.
Many are filled with varied inferiority complexes. When it’s not at all – a “complex.”
Lot of money here — I think it merits an investigation. The Tea Party bunch makes ACORN look angelic.
Bill sez: “Lot of money here — I think it merits an investigation. The Tea Party bunch makes ACORN look angelic.”
Based on what?? Investigation into what?? That comment couldn’t be any more ridiculous if you had a polka dot bow tie and a squeaky nose.
Get out your clown car, Ianquihue, and bring your long suspenders and floppy shoes, too. Did you only read the blurb? Did you not go to the various links offered? Your perception is not very wide and has no depth at all – typical teabagger you.
“In Wednesday’s email exchange, several other TPPers sided with Merits in raising concerns about the lawsuit. And one, Jack Staver, raised a separate charge against the board, suggesting that board members were being insufficiently transparent about the organization’s finances.
Wrote Staver:
How much money does TPP have? How much did we make in DC? Where are the financial statements? Do board members get paid and if so who? Who signs the checks? Where does our money go?
Merits echoed that theme. “Why are the financial records not public knowledge?” he asked. “Show me the money!”
Eventually a Tea Party Patriots loyalist couldn’t take it anymore. “Why are you intentionally trying to destroy this movement??” he demanded.
Charges of lax book-keeping — and worse — appear to be breaking out across the Tea Party movement. In a separate email written Wednesday and obtained by TPMmuckraker, Matt Perdue, the president of a San Antonio Tea Party group, ripped into the group’s treasurer, her husband, and their supporters for conducting a “mass redirection campaign,” apparently to line their own pockets using Tea Party donations.
“Where has all this money gone?” asks Perdue. “If there is nothing wrong going on, why has there not been one single piece of paper produced to back up why people got checks, some for $3,000, $7,400+, $4,000, $10,400+??? Where is the documentation? Why isn’t the cash deposited like it should be? Why did it take more than two weeks to deposit cash from the meetings?”"
How much Gov money does the Tea party movements get? none. That is why they don’t need
an investigation into their finances. A little thought goes a long way you know…
Oh – so in your world it’s ok that the Tea Party not account for its funding. No need for an investigation, move along, there’s nothing to see here. If you’re a Tea Partier, don’t bother asking —
Yes, I’m being facetious. See that last line in your post? “A little thought goes a long way you know…” How far has that little thought gotten you?
More than you apparently. Acorn is being investigated because of the federal money it recieves. Since Holder has refused to investigate them for this why should the tea parties be investigated?
“Fidoohki says:
November 15, 2009 at 6:31 am
More than you apparently. Acorn is being investigated because of the federal money it recieves. Since Holder has refused to investigate them for this why should the tea parties be investigated?”
Wait – “ACORN is being investigated because of the federal money it receives” – but “Holder has refused to investigate them for this..” Illogical at best, incorrect at worst. ACORN is the subject of investigation as to funds in Louisiana because of embezzlement in which ACORN is the victim. And the reason the Teabaggers should be investigated is for the same reason — show me the money, all those checks written, allegations of personal enrichment of teabagger officers, “Charges of lax book-keeping — and worse — appear to be breaking out across the Tea Party movement. In a separate email written Wednesday and obtained by TPMmuckraker, Matt Perdue, the president of a San Antonio Tea Party group, ripped into the group’s treasurer, her husband, and their supporters for conducting a “mass redirection campaign,” apparently to line their own pockets using Tea Party donations.
“Where has all this money gone?” asks Perdue. “If there is nothing wrong going on, why has there not been one single piece of paper produced to back up why people got checks, some for $3,000, $7,400+, $4,000, $10,400+??? Where is the documentation? Why isn’t the cash deposited like it should be? Why did it take more than two weeks to deposit cash from the meetings?””
Okay I can admit it, I was wrong. Maybe they should be investigated over this.. provided it
is a FAIR investigation on potenial embezzelment. I also apologize for my attitude. I
was uncalled for HOWEVER it is Tea Party not Tea Baggers…
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