Bill O’Reilly And Guest: Success Of Fox News Has ‘Pushed Mainstream News Further Left’

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by Colby Hall | 8:41 am, July 9th, 2010

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Bill O’Reilly spoke about media coverage last night on The O’Reilly Factor, and specifically exasperated why the major network news outlets were ignoring the “New Black Panther” controversy that is getting so much play on Fox News. In the eyes his guest Byron York, “the continued success of Fox…conservative talk radio, and of conservative sites on the internet have actually pushed the so-called mainstream media a little farther to the left than they were before.”

York is the Chief Political Correspondent for the Washington Examiner, and contributor to Fox News. He explained to O’Reilly what he saw as reasons why the mainstream media have ignored the Black Panther whistleblower story. What they neglect to discuss is how O’Reilly had misreported this very story the previous night.

As Tommy Christopher reported yesterday “O’Reilly gets a bunch of things wrong in his segment, not only calling for the Obama DOJ to prosecute someone who has already been prosecuted, but stating repeatedly that there were 3 New Black Panthers at the Philadelphia polling place.” O’Reilly had also erroneously claimed that the Justice Department had provide no clear rationale for dismissing charges against the Black Panther Party, when the lawyers for the DOJ Civil Rights Division drafted a detailed memo outlining the legal basis for the dismissals.

Throughout this, and other segments, O’Reilly runs footage of a member of a Black Panther King Samir looming outside of a Philadelphia polling place. Perhaps he should heed his own advice of three years ago, when he admonished directors of the documentary Jesus Camp for exploiting the bizarre acts of extremists to make a political point, saying “anyone can do that, and it proves nothing. I could film militant secular progressives in S&M bars all night long. What does that prove? There will always be people on the fringe.”

A rough transcript of the exchange follow the video clip below.

O’Reilly: In the Impact Segment tonight, this should come as no surprise when the head of Nasa said that part of his job is reaching out to the Muslim world, the story was ignored by the network news. Also the black panther election controversy total blackout on the nightly news broadcast. Joining us now from Washington, Byron York, chief political correspondent for The Washington Examiner. Byron, I didn’t cover the Nasa story either although the fox news hard news people did obviously. Should I have covered it.

York: The Factor is just one show on Fox, and there was a significant amount of coverage on Fox. So if you watch the network for any period of time you would know about the story. contrast that to readers of the New York Times, readers of the The Washington Post, and viewers of the broadcast network newscast. If you depended on them for your news and a lot of people do, you would literally not know that this had happened. that’s a lot different.

O’Reilly: Okay. the reason I didn’t cover it is I have a problem with it. You know, if the head of Nasa or the head of any other government agency wan to try to make friends with the Muslim world, that’s fine with me. I don’t think that’s a bad thing at all as long as they don’t do anything stupid or compromise themselves in any way or insult people, victims of 9/11, their families. If he wants to make overtures to the Muslim world about science and things like that, I don’t have a problem. So I didn’t cover it. But, far more important is the blackout of the back panther story which has now reached up into subpoena level with the human rights commission. And this is stunning when you have the three network newscasts ignoring this story with all of the provocative sound, with all of the testimony by Mr. Christian in front of the committee, and you have Couric and Williams and Diane Sawyer basically saying, hey, we have got more important things to do than tell you about this unbelievable controversy. I don’t get this at all. Why do you think they ignored it?

York: Well, let me tell you why I think this is happening. I think the continued success of Fox, the continued success of conservative talk radio, and of conservative sites on the Internet have actually pushed the so-called mainstream media a little farther to the left than they were before. And this is how it happens. In a story like Van Jones or like the new black panthers or about the Nasa Muslim outreach story, when you have outlets on the right and they consider Fox News to be right wing, covering these things, they begin to see their role as a corrective, as a counter weight to that information. So, one of the ways they handled that is just simply to ignore it and as a matter of fact in the Van Jones matter they didn’t report the story until after Jones had resigned. So I think there is a growing sense among people at the network newscasts, at The Washington Post,, at the New York Times, that they function as kind of a counter balance to what they sees a right wing misinformation out there. And that’s why i think you see him behaving this way.

O’Reilly: The network news has lost another million viewers. You know, they are going down the tubes. There is no doubt that they are. The New York Times. Big, big trouble. The Washington Post, you know, Newsweek is out. It’s gone. So you are telling me that because of Fox News’ success, they have to ignore stories that might attract viewers. This black panther story is a very interesting story with a lot of aspect to it. You are telling me that they are going to give up readers and viewers because they don’t like what fox news does?

York: I think that’s exactly what’s happening.

Bill O’Reilly, Black Panther, Byron York, fox news, New Black Panther party, O'Reilly Factor

Liberty Banned

Another Fox hit piece? Once again Mediaite, you claim this is a non partisan sight, yet it is filled with nothing but partisan writers. What about Ed Shultz, of MSNBC, and his claim that the USA should provide more welfare because if we don’t….we risk being a third world country.

At least try and show a little diversity. FNC deserves plenty of analysis but you clearly have FOX News derangement syndrome.
Liberty Banned

Colby wrote:
“As Tommy Christopher reported yesterday “O’Reilly gets a bunch of things wrong in his segment, not only calling for the Obama DOJ to prosecute someone who has already been prosecuted, but stating repeatedly that there were 3 New Black Panthers at the Philadelphia polling place.” O’Reilly had also erroneously claimed that the Justice Department had provide no clear rationale for dismissing charges against the Black Panther Party, when the lawyers for the DOJ Civil Rights Division drafted a detailed memo outlining the legal basis for the dismissals.”

Oh and do you know what Tommy conveniently left out? He left out the fact that the Civil Rights Commission is investigating the DOJ Civil Rights division over this case. Don’t you think, as a non partisan site, that is is important information? Come on Colby, you can at least acknowledge that there is an investigation of the DOJ practices.
Barney

This is the jug-eared idiots justice dept

Deputy Assistant Attorney General Julie Fernandes ordered, “Never bring another lawsuit against a black or other national minority, apparently no matter what they do.”

http://bigjournalism.com/bparks/2010/07/08/another-story-the-msm-doesnt-want-you-to-know-about-never-bring-another-lawsuit-against-a-black/
Liberty Banned

Of course Colby and Tommy refuse to put any counter point into their clearly bias writing. Additionally, they repeat the claim that Oreilly made about three NBBP people at the site. He’s obviously wrong, yet when some left-winger like Obama claims that there is 57 states, they simply ignore it. I came to Mediaite because they claim the site was non partisan, yet it appears to be just another partisan site like Media Matters or Newsbusters.
BatBoy

We established yesterday that Tommy had report wrong and now you are quoting Tommy????

Mediatite is getting to be like the media afraid to report on Muslims.

Using Tommy’s words…..”SOME PEOPLE SAY you are laying down for the New Black Panther party! Did they give you the word to knock it off or else?

Nothing good can come from supporting “THE NEW BLACK PANTHERS!”

We do understand that you realize O’Reilly will only throw words back at you….BUT
The NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY is capable of doing you and your fellow staff members bodily harm.
So we understand why you guys go after O’Reilly and why you give the PANTHER’s a pass!

It is a very sad commentary on your profession and explains why people are not buying your message less and less!
Liberty Banned

Colby,
How can you compare two racist thugs that are clearly intimidating voters to some religious fanatics that are not breaking the law. News flash, voter intimidation, even if it’s against the “white devil” is illegal. To be a religious nut ball….is not illegal.
MichelleF

Byron is right. The success of Fox has driven the left, you included Colby, absolutely insane! It’s actually fun to watch.

Oh Colby, remember how you emailed me and told you to stop emailing tips? Well I emailed you back and asked what was objectionable about my emails. They were perfectly respectful. Can I get some guidelines on what is appropriate and what isn’t? I mean do you just not want anything that puts Obama and the left in a bad light? Please help me understand so I can do better. Consider myself checked!!
Liberty Banned

Some people Michelle, of both sides, are clearly blinded by their partisan ideology.
NORBIT

DISGRACE!!!!!

The Obama Press Corps – NBC, CBS & ABC – continues to COVER-UP the White House Voter Fraud Scandal!

REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER! – A vote for ANY Democrat is a vote supporting this racist junta in D.C.
yweston

Norbit:

Isn’t that your comment from yesterday? What are you doing a copy and paste job. I will remember in November and I will be sure NOT to vote for any “racist” junta T Baggers in NOVEMBER. Thanks for the reminder.

Here’s a little something for you in return for your kindness. To tell you what the future of the Rebublican/Bagger/Pay-lin Party has to look forward to.

Demographic Change and the Future of the Parties
http://www.americanprogressaction.org/issues/2010/06/demographic_party_change.html

White newborn babies set to become a minority in the U.S. ‘next year’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1285856/White-newborn-babies-set-minority-U-S-year.html#ixzz0tBysMZlj

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1285856/White-newborn-babies-set-minority-U-S-year.html
Liberty Banned

yweston said:
Norbit:

Isn’t that your comment from yesterday? What are you doing a copy and paste job. I will remember in November and I will be sure NOT to vote for any “racist” junta T Baggers in NOVEMBER. Thanks for the reminder.

Here’s a little something for you in return for your kindness. To tell you what the future of the Rebublican/Bagger/Pay-lin Party has to look forward to.

Demographic Change and the Future of the Parties
http://www.americanprogressaction.org/issues/2010/06/demographic_party_change.html

White newborn babies set to become a minority in the U.S. ‘next year’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1285856/White-newborn-babies-set-minority-U-S-year.html#ixzz0tBysMZlj

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1285856/White-newborn-babies-set-minority-U-S-year.html

What does race have to do with anything? yweston it appears that you are the racist here, and nice sources.
MichelleF

yweston, you seem to be really full of hate. Maybe before you call other’s racist, you should take a gander in the mirror.

ps, Conservatives now make up 40% of the population and lib loons like you a mere 20%. Your side has also lost I’s in droves, so good luck in November!
Liberty Banned

yweston.

Even if those numbers are correct, what’s going to happen when the politicians tell everyone that they can give them everything. Pretty soon, you are going to run out of other people money. Then what? Just look towards greece.
NORBIT

ALERT:
Our very freedoms are under attack from this Adminisration, and it is vital to PURGE ALL DEMOCRATS FROM OFFICE IN NOVEMBER!

The Administration uses arcane legal machinations to circumvent the Congress (Health Debacle), the Courts (Drilling Moratorium), the states (AZ. challenge), National Security (Open Borders), and the like.

They use their storm trooper tactics (ACORN, SEIU, black panthers), and they play the RACE-CARD at every Opportunity!

Also, Obama will LIE RIGHT TO OUR FACES ABOUT HIS REAL INTENTIONS – & the duplicit MAINSTREAM MEDIA (excluding FOX) will not even pursue questioning this GOVERNMENT COUP!

FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR CHILDREN, GET EVERYONE YOU KNOW TO VOTE DEMOCRATS OUT OF OFFICE THIS NOVEMBER!

REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER – A vote for ANY Democrat is a vote for OBAMA!
NORBIT

@yweston,

We never expected you to!!!!!!!!!!!
MichelleF

LB, your comment is so true and I’ve noticed that libs NEVER have an answer for it. It’s kind of like when I ask a lib what % of their income the rich should have to pay in taxes. I don’t like libs think things through very well.
NORBIT

Liberty,

The left remains fixated on a primitive level ‘group identity’.
They OBSESS over RACE, as witnessed in ywestons response; and they have a sycophant media (excluding FOX) that parrots that obsession!

To have any success in purging Democrats this year, we must expose this ‘group-identity’ think, and appeal to people as individuals to do the right thing.

You need only look at recent events to see that the true racist have, for the past 50 years, been on the LEFT!
Liberty Banned

It’s actually pretty sad that minorities, according to most of the media and left leaning politicians, are thought of as nothing but a hyphenated collective. They are not viewed as individuals with diverse experiences, differing ideas and beliefs. Yet whites are allowed to be individuals, are not called “European – Americans” and are not personally attacked for different political views. It’s disgusting. We should all be viewed as individuals first and foremost.

Maybe one day, the media and politicians will view all of us, not just “whites,” as individuals.
valkyrie101

“Bill O’Reilly And Guest: Success Of Fox News Has ‘Pushed Mainstream News Further Left’”.

Sounds like a true statement. A polarization between left and right is happening. Though it could just as easily be said that the preeminence of the left in the overall media picture has pushed non-mainstream media further to the right. Without FOX, there would not be balance.
BatBoy

CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, Univision, PBS and a few more vs FOX

You call that balance????

Way too many social classes vs math and algebra classes at your high school…huh?

How sad for you!
valkyrie101

Yes, that was my point, batboy, in order for there to be balance with so much going on on the left, the right has to be way over there to the extreme right. That is FOX.
NORBIT Jr.

Bill O’Reilly spoke about media coverage last night on The O’Reilly Factor, and specifically exasperated why the major network news outlets were ignoring the “New Black Panther” controversy that is getting so much play on Fox News.
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“Exasperated”, Colby?

If they were Klan members outside an Alabama polling place, would you & your buddies on the Left be “exasperating” at the COVER-UP? – THE MEDIA WOULD BE FOAMING AT THE MOUTH!

Try a little with your rhetoric, next time.
sarainitaly

O’Reilly actually only once said that there were three panthers outside the polling place. There were three panthers named in the suit, and Bill correctly references that there were three defendants. You and Tommy both mistakenly say that O’Reilly repeatedly claims there were three panthers at the polling place.

“O’Reilly had also erroneously claimed that the Justice Department had provide no clear rationale for dismissing charges against the Black Panther Party, when the lawyers for the DOJ Civil Rights Division drafted a detailed memo outlining the legal basis for the dismissals.”

“Lawyers for the DOJ Civil Rights Division drafted a detailed memo outlining the legal basis for the dismissals.” ~TC

From the memo:

“I am not convinced that we can establish a basis for an injunction against the Party or Malik Shabazz by showing that the party has violent and racist views against non-blacks and jews.”

Oh reeeeally? Hmmm something tells me they didn’t look very hard.

They then go on to call the NBPP a hate group. Shabazz defended the actions of the other two, and the memo outlines how the tactics they used did violate the law. So….really? Do you think the memo was a reasonable explanation of the dismissal?

Or how about this:

The problem is, this seems to contradict previous statements by Mr. Shabazz and other top party leaders. The Jackson Sun in Tennessee reported that three days before the 2008 election, “Minister Najee Muhammad, national field marshal for the New Black Panther Party, and Uhuru Shakur, local chairman of the Atlanta chapter of the party, took turns reading statements from Dr. Malik Shabazz, leader of Black Lawyers for Justice and attorney for the party.” Mr. Shakur added, “We will be at the polls in the cities and counties in many states to ensure that the enemy does not sabotage the black vote.”

After the election, on Nov. 7, 2008, Mr. Shabazz spoke live on the Fox News Channel to defend his fellow party members. Claiming that they had brought a weapon to the Philadelphia polling place in response to the presence of neo-Nazis, Mr. Shabazz said, “When we found that this was an emergency response [to the supposed Nazis in the parking lot], there was an explanation” for brandishing the weapon.

http://www.indianapolisrecorder.com/articles/2009/12/22/opinion/editorials/doc4b2271b40fb41067893274.txt
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/dec/11/a-black-panther-sings-28726124/
http://www.karlspensen.blogspot.com Karl Spensen

LibertyBanned – THANK YOU for being one of the new, OUTSPOKEN voices in our neverending FIGHT against the LIB HACKS here at MediaSPITE!!!1 Together we will TAKE THEM DOWN and EXPOSE their liberal agenda by constantly COMPLAINING, CRITICIZING, and registering our DISGUST!!!1 Proud Patriots like you, me, and MichelleF will NOT go quietly into that good night!!!!11 (Sorry just saw Independence Day LOL!!!1) We will not just “piss off and read a blog that [we] actually like”, as Dan Abrams once told me when I was in line behind him at a Quizno’s and I started SHOUTING at him about what terrible writers he employs!!!!!11 So help me GOD, we WILL prevail, and soon they will realize that WE are right, and the people who actually get PAID to write a BLOG are dead wrong!!!!!!!!!!!1111
TfT

Between Tommy and Colby this site is providing me with daily laughs.
http://www.karlspensen.blogspot.com Karl Spensen

HAHahaHAHAHahaHAHAHAHAHA YES THEY SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!111
lazzzlo

valkyrie101 said:
“Bill O’Reilly And Guest: Success Of Fox News Has ‘Pushed Mainstream News Further Left’”.

Sounds like a true statement. A polarization between left and right is happening. Though it could just as easily be said that the preeminence of the left in the overall media picture has pushed non-mainstream media further to the right. Without FOX, there would not be balance.

The only issue I have with this post is your characterization of FOX as “non-mainstream? It may just be the way that you phrased the post.

If news/political media consists only of television, newspapers and Internet sites then television definitely has moved further to the left in the reporting of stories and commentary.

I only read print media when I stop by my parent’s place to visit and read their local paper. That paper, the Daytona Beach News Journal was recently purchased from the Davidson family after 80 years by Halifax Media Holding LLC and promptly changed their editorial policy to one that leans center-right instead of the progressive leanings of
Pierre Tristam et. al.

I use a variety of aggregate feeders to get my news from the 3rd source…the Internet. I get WaPo, NY Times and Townhall amongst others in my in-box and “views from the left” and “views from the right” in an RSS format. That gives me the opportunity to parse through the information and, hopefully, make some informed choices by weighing the pros and cons of an issue.

The 1st two components of “Mainstream media” are dying with print media first. The natural reaction of a wounded animal is to defend itself and we are seeing that daily. Money is in the ratings and ad-shares and page hits. However, in television, there is one major news organization that has a right tilt.

That’s scaring the other media bastions quite a bit.

That was fun…it’s so much more satisfying to write out a reasonable response rather than just typing, “You’re an idiot…no, you’re an idiot” and degenerating from there.

PS….can Mediaite please include an “edit” button.
MichelleF

Yes, that was my point, batboy, in order for there to be balance with so much going on on the left, the right has to be way over there to the extreme right. That is FOX.

No, it’s just the everyone but Fox is SO far left, the more moderate FOX appears far right in comparison.
MichelleF

TfT says:
July 9, 2010 at 12:52 pm TfT(Quote)
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Between Tommy and Colby this site is providing me with daily laughs.

Be very careful TfT or colby will email you to “check yourself”!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Ed-Durffee/1311278663 Ed Durffee

Does not the rabid Liberals here defending Liberal Media never wonder why the revered Liberal spokes persons they listen to are always so far down in the ratings???? Why are they thought so little of by so many people?? You know why, comon you know… Because they are two faced, outright spin masters who could not give honest reporting if they wanted to. They have no integrity, and they are so small minded its funny. For years people believed the trash they wrote, and did not realize the truths they left out. Now even liberals see the dark side of that way of doing news…. Liberal Media does not report the news, THEY INVENT it. The will spin when possible, out right lie at times and ignore when they cant spin it to advantage. People are just sick of being lied to. AS THEY SHOULD BE. You may not like O’Reilly, but he tells it like it is, Hannity the same, the fact you cry so much tells me how right these Fox people really are. No matter what you write, how you spin it, how much you actually outright lie, your boy Obama is out and so will be many so called Democratic Congressmen and women. You have tried too long to just buy votes, and people have learned, you are nothing but hot air in a paper sack…POP your gone.
valkyrie101

lazzzlo said:
The only issue I have with this post is your characterization of FOX as “non-mainstream? It may just be the way that you phrased the post.

Fox is most definitely not mainstream. Unless you get your mainstream from Australian. And it caters to the right, not the center.
lazzzlo

valkyrie101 said:
Fox is most definitely not mainstream. Unless you get your mainstream from Australian. And it caters to the right, not the center.

Valkyrie101…that’s the point I was trying to make. In American cable television news, FOX is mainstream as are CNN, MSNBC and CNN Headline News. Their ratings prove it.

FOX only has local affiliates rather than CBS, NBC and ABC which provide national reporting once a day for 20 minutes after commercials. Different business plan.

FOX is mainstream.
lazzzlo

As a matter of fact, FOX is getting Helen Thomas’ front row seat for WH press briefings. I’d call that mainstream.
BruceGoose

Well, our country has definitely become more polarized for profit in the last few years. I don’t think network news is going “left”, they just don’t follow cable news on every potential non-story when there are bigger things going on in the world. If people want to follow stories on Muslims, Black Panthers, and Van Jones they know where to go.
writer

White racism is a story. Black racism is a non-story.
valkyrie101

lazzzlo said:
Valkyrie101…that’s the point I was trying to make. In American cable television news, FOX is mainstream as are CNN, MSNBC and CNN Headline News. Their ratings prove it. FOX only has local affiliates rather than CBS, NBC and ABC which provide national reporting once a day for 20 minutes after commercials. Different business plan. FOX is mainstream.

Having 1% of the population watching you does not prove anything. FOX caters to the right. Correct?
lazzzlo

BruceGoose said:
Well, our country has definitely become more polarized for profit in the last few years. I don’t think network news is going “left”, they just don’t follow cable news on every potential non-story when there are bigger things going on in the world. If people want to follow stories on Muslims, Black Panthers, and Van Jones they know where to go.

I didn’t even consider Network news. They have a lot of stories that they have to include in a short amount of time.
In no particular order…It’s hot, Oil spill, 2 wars, unemployment, the White House’s take and a fluffy segment in 20 minutes.
valkyrie101

writer said:
White racism is a story. Black racism is a non-story.

Here is a rebuttal to the whole made up story, if you have the courage to examine the facts: http://mediamatters.org/research/201007070020
lazzzlo

valkyrie101 said:
Having 1% of the population watching you does not prove anything. FOX caters to the right. Correct?

Yes, FOX appeals more to the right. No argument.

Wednesday”s (07/07/2010) ratings for cable news…http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/

FOX wins each time…the data is from Nielsen. I’m not sure where the 1% figure came from…I was assuming that the percentage was based on a viewing audience…not the general population of the United States. If so, turn those figures around and do the math for the other outlets.
valkyrie101

lazzzlo said:
Yes, FOX appeals more to the right. No argument. Wednesday”s (07/07/2010) ratings for cable news…http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/ FOX wins each time…the data is from Nielsen. I’m not sure where the 1% figure came from…I was assuming that the percentage was based on a viewing audience…not the general population of the United States. If so, turn those figures around and do the math for the other outlets.

Fox wins the cable news wars, but cable news is a marginal part of the overall market.
lazzzlo

Valkyrie101…explain what the “market” is that then defines mainstream television.

Is it Network and affiliates, cable or satellite?

I can also re-direct you to this post from Mediaite which posits that FOX NEWS had more viewers In prime time last week than CNN, MSNBC or HLN http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-had-more-viewers-in-prime-time-last-week-than-cnn-msnbc-hln/
lazzzlo

Just for fun…from print media…if it gets too “iffy” some media sites would rather pull commentary rather than post it.
WaPo is remembering, slowly, keep the news and opinions separate.

Behind the Lines: ‘DOONESBURY’s’ Trudeau illuminates today’s ‘Sgt. Bitch’ strip

http://wpcomics.washingtonpost.com/client/wpc/db/

UPDATE: Newsday has pulled today’s “Doonesbury” with a note that the strip “will return tomorrow,” according to Gawker — which concludes with the clucking “Oh silly, silly Newsday!”

Is there a cartoonist working today who writes about the military more tellingly, more incisively — somehow more rightly — than Garry Trudeau?

When it comes to covering the armed forces, which the Pulitzer-winning “Doonesbury” has notably done for much of the Iraq war, Trudeau is not only a cartoonist. He is also a reporter serving them with distinction. He is Ernie Pyle with an artist’s pen, taking up a tradition that could make the great Bill Mauldin proud.

Case in point: Today’s strip, whose language alone may turn a few heads, if not raise some editor’s eyebrow. Rather than ponder how it rings so right, today we let Trudeau himself take us behind the lines:

GARRY TRUDEAU (Katherine Frey/The Washington Post)

“It was inspired by an Air Force NCO I met a couple years ago,” Trudeau tells Comic Riffs. “While serving in Afghanistan, she was promoted to sergeant in front of her peers, some of whom had trouble dealing with it. When a male teammate later called her a bitch, she replied, ‘That’s Sergeant Bitch to you!’

“The comeback seemed particularly appropriate for Melissa,” the cartoonist continues, “whose problems stem from the crippling sense of powerlessness and betrayal she experienced as a victim of command rape during an earlier rotation. I’m not sure where I’m going with this, but it seems credible that Sergeant Wheeler would feel more validated and less vulnerable than Specialist Wheeler.”

And what about adapting the authentic language to the comics? Did that cause any pause?

“The language is slightly rawer than normally appears in ‘Doonesbury’ or the comics generally, but I don’t think I’m using the epithet gratuitously, Indeed I hope that its use in this context undercuts the toxicity with which it is uttered by far too many male soldiers.”

Trudeau also cites his prior deployment of the term.

“Actually, I have used the word ‘bitch’ before. In 2004, when B.D. discovers he’s lost his leg, he exclaims, ‘Son of a bitch!’ There was a minor dustup; the Boston Globe and a few other papers dropped it.”

It bears noting that Trudeau has not only traveled to Iraq and elsewhere on USO tours with his cartooning colleagues. He is also backing a proposed program that would turn New York’s Patriot Hills at Saranac Lake into a “respite and reintegration center for active-duty soldiers, veterans and their families.” The Adirondack Daily Enterprise covered the recent forum, titled “Soldier Resiliency: A Fresh Approach,” to support the program.

The program would be based at the Trudeau Institute, a Saranac Lake medical research lab “specializing in developing cures for tuberculosis, flu and other lung diseases.” Peter Crowley, managing editor of the Daily Enterprise, tells us that “it was established by Garry Trudeau’s dad, Dr. Frank Trudeau, out of the ashes of the TB sanitarium and research lab founded in the late 19th century by Garry’s great-grandfather, Dr. Edward Livingston Trudeau.”

The Daily Enterprise quotes an executive director of Patriot Hills as saying:
“Garry Trudeau has brought so much insight and capacity to this idea because of his connection to the military folks that we don’t have locally. He has really broadened the scope of this, and it’s going to help us a great deal going forward.” ,

An effort, in other words, that Sgt. Wheeler herself would surely salute.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/comic-riffs/2010/07/behind_the_lines_doonesburys_t.html
valkyrie101

lazzzlo said:
Valkyrie101…explain what the “market” is that then defines mainstream television.
Is it Network and affiliates, cable or satellite?

Consider the spectrum of the media market, Hollywood, internet, TV, cable news, cable entertainment, radio, music, home entertainment, porn, newspapers, magazines, … Don’t the conservatives routinely castigate the secular world, and most of those things I listed, as being depraved? And of course if it is depraved, it must be liberal. So the point is that in order to balance out that heavy left wing influence, with its blue natives, and drug induced rock and roll lyrics, there needs to be a far right wing outpost. And that is pretty much what talk radio, FOX news and the mostly old people, southern yokels, and end of the world religious freaks that tune in, hang out. Am I wrong on that?
tiredofbs

valkyrie101 said:
And that is pretty much what talk radio, FOX news and the mostly old people, southern yokels, and end of the world religious freaks that tune in, hang out.

Am I wrong on that?

yes u r
totally
definitely
most certainly
BUT U KNEW THAT
felixw

The mainstream media’s refusal to cover this scandal sets a new standard in hypocrisy. The Obama justice department is ordering lawyers to prosecute white people and not black people, and the liberals who control the press don’t want anyone to find out. What they don’t realize is (1) in the Internet age they can’t bury a scandal this large, and (2) they are simply destroying their credibility by this extreme partisan behavior.
Daysh

Liberal or Republican, it doesn’t matter. To quote Thomas Jefferson “Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then be trusted with the government of others? Or have we found angels in the form of kings to govern him? Let history answer this question.”

Though as a conservative, I would agree that this Socialist Party we have running the white house, is full of crap. They obviously don’t care about you. Most Americans oppose the Health Care Bill, and the Obama Nation pushes it through anyway. Most Americans support the AZ immigration act, and the Obama Nation black balls them…doesn’t sound like a democracy to me. Though I will still fight for my country, because I fight for no government, instead I fight for my family, friends, and all citizen of this Great United States. May God Bless All of You!
xbacksideslider

The statement –

“O’Reilly had also erroneously claimed that the Justice Department had provide no clear rationale for dismissing charges against the Black Panther Party, when the lawyers for the DOJ Civil Rights Division drafted a detailed memo outlining the legal basis for the dismissals.”

Is flat wrong. I’ve read the linked memo; it does NOT explain the “legal basis for the dismissals.”

What it discusses is whether the judge will require greater evidence to support a prove up of the Request for Entry of Default Judgment. The memo does not discuss facts or law that would absolve all defendants.

The article’s link to the memo, as with a bogus footnote, invites the reader to assume veracity. When the reader actually bothers to read the memo, then the reader has to ask whether the author of this piece is incompetent, stupid, or dishonest.

Actually, the article reads as an Obama speech, citing contested “facts” as if they are uncontested.