You are 100% correct, Bret. At least be honest about it, Jon.

You want side-splitting, gut wrenching, laugh-til-you-fall-over CONSERVATIVE humor? Then look no further than Klavan on the Culture videos. I personnel think his “President Obama, Talking Crap” is one of the best, but they are ALL outstanding. Klavan makes lefty-buffoon Stewart look like a third-rate amateur.

Stewart has other people write his books which are nothing more than children books for adults with little minds.

Bret is the best newsman working today .

Stewart is a clown who makes faces .

The easiest thing in the world is to mock someone or something .

His writers have to be overpaid . Stewart plays to an audience of mostly young people who don’t know much yet . When they grow up and leave , he’s still got a new group of kids coming in .

Any adult who takes Stewart seriously is a dolt .

There is “not an ideological agenda” on Stewarts show? LOL. Stewart is not only smart, but a bad liar.

What can stewart do, he’s just a comedian but the republicans are writing all the best material.

Is every writter on Mediaite compelled to use the word “epic?” Storming the beaches at Normandy was epic,Armstrong walking on the moon was epic. Wallace and Stewart “epic?” Not so much.

Bret is absolutely right – Stewart gets to have it both ways. I thought Chris Wallace did a great job calling him out on this Sunday.

Jon Stewart, Bully

Over at Breitbart’s Big Hollywood, 23-year-old comedian Steven Crowder has been outlining an appalling show business story.

According to Crowder—my sometime colleague at PJTV—his manager submitted his work to some producers at The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. One senior producer wrote to the manager to say, “Steven is definitely a talented guy,” but “we never book conservative pundits.” Crowder then made one of his weekly YouTube videos in which he displayed the letter and discussed the incident. Mostly, he did this by way of promoting his friend Benjamin Shapiro’s new book Primetime Propaganda which, aptly enough, exposes TV’s tacit blacklist of conservatives.

At this point, according to the next Crowder video, the Daily Show producer who wrote the letter went ballistic at being publicly exposed as a political blacklister. She furiously phoned Crowder’s manager and upbraided him for showing Crowder her letter. The reaming was so bad, Crowder’s manager, feeling he had to protect his business and his other clients, dumped Crowder. (I emailed the manager requesting an interview and received an away message. Crowder asked me not to contact The Daily Show, but if they want to tell their side of the story, they can reach me here.)

Now of course there’s nothing surprising about any of this. We know that leftists mistake their politics for virtue. They think that voting for Democrats somehow makes them good people, and that they are therefore justified in treating anyone who disagrees with them like trash. We know that, whereas conservatives love nothing better than to argue things out with their opponents, leftists want only to shut them up—and they do this by blacklisting them, slandering them as bigots and, wherever the First Amendment isn’t around to stop them, legislating them into silence through “hate speech” laws and “Fairness Acts” and the like.

But while The Daily Show’s behavior may not be surprising, it is kind of disgusting, isn’t it? Stewart is at the height of his career and in a position of power. For him to have his minions take action that costs a 23-year-old up-and-comer his representation is bullying, plain and simple.

read more: http://pajamasmedia.com/andrewklavan/2011/06/20/jon-stewart-bully/?singlepage=true

Fox is like the fat kid in middle school, “John stop making fun of us”

hehehehehe………

Well Brett…I guess you didn’t get the message huh?
Why would you challenge Stewart if you had?
To give him more material to crush you?

Why don’t you just stick to your agenda and avoid the ass kicking?
But then again…this is gonna be a lot of fun if Stewart decides to get on your case so….
Thanks Brett…..can’t say you didn’t ask for it now buddy….good luck with that……

hahahahahahhaha…………
Man..when are they gonna learn?

Weeeeeeeeee!!!!!……

Washington (CNN) — Kenneth Melson, acting director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, is expected to resign under pressure, perhaps in the next day or two, in the wake of the ongoing controversy over Operation Fast and Furious, two senior federal law enforcement sources said Monday.

In the operation, straw buyers were allowed to illegally purchase large numbers of weapons, some of which ended up in the hands of cartels in Mexico…

The operation has come under intense criticism since the December killing of a U.S. Border Patrol officer.

The idea was that once the weapons in Mexico were traced back to the straw purchasers, the entire arms smuggling network could be brought down. Instead, the report argues, letting the weapons slip into the wrong hands was a deadly miscalculation that resulted in preventable deaths, including that of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.

Terry was killed last year just north of the Mexican border in Arizona after he confronted a group of bandits believed to be preying on illegal immigrants. Two weapons found near the scene of the killing were traced to Fast and Furious.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/06/20/us.fast.and.furious/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Hmmm. I wonder if Eric Holder can be charged as an accessory to murder. That would be sweet!

For someone who get’s their rocks off with tearing conservatives to shreds, Stewart sure is extremely thin skinned and fragile when anyone dares to challenge and critique him.

He couldn’t survive the same treatment he gives others.

His fans are thin skinned too as evidenced by this funny video. Notice the number of dislikes as opposed to the number of comments and views.

Fox is still whining.

Stewart ratings are high than anyone on Fox……

I’d listen to what he has to say on the matter, but statistically, that would make me uninformed.

“When something goes wrong he punts.”

What exactly went wrong? He was asked questions and was willing to answer.

You could see Stewart boiling? When? I never saw that. A little hyperbolic isn’t it?

Fox is just repeating a criticism of Jon that has been on internet blogs for quite a while now and is no more true than it ever was. Jon is not a political activist hiding behind being a comic. He is a professional comedian who’s medium is political satire. Nobody likes being called out on their bullshit so they feel they have to respond. Killameade calling Stewart’s view insane? I’ve tuned in to Fox and Friends quite a few times. Some of the worst dishonest crap I never wanted to hear. I remember Killameade walking off once because he made and attempt to actually defend Obama on some minor point and his co hosts mocked him. I also remember Wallace going on Fox and Friends and chiding them for dishonestly presenting an edited video clip over and over.
Gotta love it.

i LIKE HOW sTEWART clls Fox News viewers misinformed, yet those who watch him usually support a party which is current bank-rolling trillions on dollars of social programs on the same dolts who’ll vote for them.

Talk about pating the hangman to hang yourself

JS is known for hiding behind the clown nose…

I always find it humorous that anytime someone responds to an attack by a liberal, they are “whining” or “playing the victim”. That’s right, you should sit there and take it. You have NO right to defend yourself against lies. Right libs. Sorry, the times are a changin. No longer will we just sit back and let you spread your lies unchallenged. Get used to it.

He is a Comedian with a strong point of view, while Fox are pretenders who think they are professional but in reality are comedic. Start your day by watching the clowns in the morning.

Comedians always have the best of both worlds. They can say what they want and call it comedic license.
And there have always been influential comedians, Jon is not anything new.

What’s new is a “news” organization trying to discredit a comedian because they are the butt of his jokes.

Dan says:

What exactly went wrong? He was asked questions and was willing to answer.

He flat out embarrased himself when Chris asked him that if he viewed ABC, NBC, CBS, NYT, WA POST, etc as having a liberal bias as he view FOX as having a Con biased and he said, no he didn’t.

Anyone who exists in the red vs. blue point scoring pro wrestling game will never understand Jon Stewart, it is no surprise that Fox News doesn’t get it.

Much in the same way that Ed Schultz and Keith Olbermann don’t get him either.

Kilmeade has friends? That aren’t paid to be his ‘friend?’ Who knew?

GreyGoose said:
i LIKE HOW sTEWART clls Fox News viewers misinformed, yet those who watch him usually support a party which is current bank-rolling trillions on dollars of social programs on the same dolts who’ll vote for them.

Talk about pating the hangman to hang yourself

Not that what you said makes complete sense, but GOP voters get more off social programs than Democrats, because GOP voters skew more elderly than Democrats, and the elderly get more from social programs than any other demographic group.

Why does saying the obvious grant you a headline on Mediaite?

Sanders Youth said:
Anyone who exists in the red vs. blue point scoring pro wrestling game will never understand Jon Stewart, it is no surprise that Fox News doesn’t get it.

Oh we get him, we just wish he’d admit to being a partisan hack.

Thorkil V said:
Why does saying the obvious grant you a headline on Mediaite?

They want to milk the story for another 600 comments.

Publius219 said:
Not that what you said makes complete sense, but GOP voters get more off social programs than Democrats, because GOP voters skew more elderly than Democrats, and the elderly get more from social programs than any other demographic group.

Blue states tend to pay more in federal taxes than they receive in federal allotments… Helpful infographic.
http://www.visualeconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/tax.jpg

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Oh we get him, we just wish he’d admit to being a partisan hack.

But if he does that, he ruins his credibility with his audience, to whom he maintains and who maintains to others that he’s simply a centrist spoofer of the political media culture.

And a news man, credibility is everything. Comedians? Not so much.

Paleoconservatarian said:
And to a news man, credibility is everything. Comedians? Not so much.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
But while The Daily Show’s behavior may not be surprising, it is kind of disgusting, isn’t it? Stewart is at the height of his career and in a position of power. For him to have his minions take action that costs a 23-year-old up-and-comer his representation is bullying, plain and simple.

I’m guessing you’d have to know more about how the industry works to draw that conclusion. The letter is professional and polite inviting the manager to send other submissions. The manager evidently breached protocol by showing his client the letter, then the client decided to go public. Maybe this comic lost his rep because by going public with a private professional communication, he threatened his agents standing.

The daily show is not a news program, There’s nothing wrong with them deciding how to mange their show and where conservative views come in. Is it much different than any other show that isn’t news, say the talking heads, deciding which guests to have on, which special commentators to have on etc.

Color me shocked, that you don’t see a problem with it, Dan.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
He flat out embarrased himself when Chris asked him that if he viewed ABC, NBC, CBS, NYT, WA POST, etc as having a liberal bias as he view FOX as having a Con biased and he said, no he didn’t.

There’s nothing embarrassing at all about Jon expressing an opinion. I addressed this specifically in the other thread. You claimed Jon said the other networks weren’t biased. That’s false. He never said that, and in fact makes that point specifically to Wallace in the interview. His claim is that Fox is far more an ideological driven propaganda machine than the other networks. He admits other networks probably do have bias, but that there is no equivalency in how much that bias directs their agenda.
You obviously disagree with his opinion, but theirs no reason for Jon to be embarrassed about simply holding an opinion and expressing it. He’s done the work and has the clips to back it up.

CosmosDan said:
The daily show is not a news program, There’s nothing wrong with them deciding how to mange their show and where conservative views come in. I

I wonder how this statement can possibly be justified with the argument that Stewart’s show doesn’t have a partisan axe to grind.

Let’s just sit back and watch, shall we?

CosmosDan said:
You claimed Jon said the other networks weren’t biased.

Yeah, I was going to point out this lie earlier, but really…what’s the point?

Bret Baier is not being honest, all you have to do is watch any show on Fox, they all have a conservative bias…From morning to night, especially night, but it is not past their day anchors to throw some shots at the President..MsNBC learns liberal, but at least they have some conservatives with opinions on…Fox toes the conservative line 24/7

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Color me shocked, that you don’t see a problem with it, Dan.

I think it’s unfortunate that the guy lost his rep, but we’re looking at a one sided presentation of the story. I went to youtube and watched the clip that showed the letter. It was a brief polite and professional letter, meant to be between professionals. Your own article indicates that the DS producer was pissed that the letter was shared with the client.
In professional situations there is often accepted traditional protocol. People react differently to that protocol being ignored or violated. In a work situation where relationships can translate into opportunities you have to be careful not to burn bridges and piss off the wrong people. IMO, because the DA is not a news show , there’s nothing horrifying about then deciding where the conservative views will come in. Their show, their call. Simple. The kid decided to make an issue of it. That’s his call, but that kind of thing has repercussions. Maybe his manager was bullied in some way, or maybe the manager decided his relationship with others in the industry was more important than this young comic since he has other clients and his own standing to worry about. Maybe the manager wasn’t expecting the client to go public with a private communication. I don’t know.

BFD said:
Yeah, I was going to point out this lie earlier, but really…what’s the point?

You’re right. I went to newsbusters following a link and their headline article contained the same dishonest crap.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/20/ive-been-denying-the-obvious-but-this-is-the-last-straw-palin-really-is-an-idiot/

You can throw the likes of Maher, O’Donnell, Poundstone, Goldberg, Letterman, and most of the rest of that COMIC CELEBRITY ILK into the mix, as well!

Well guess what Progressives, the Obama impersonator is only a comedian as well!
LMAO!!

Paleoconservatarian said:
I wonder how this statement can possibly be justified with the argument that Stewart’s show doesn’t have a partisan axe to grind.

Let’s just sit back and watch, shall we?

It’s not hard at all. It’s simply a news satire program deciding what formula works best for the satire they are presenting. Anyone who has watched the show has seen them go after liberals , unions, Obama, whatever. Jon has on conservative guests on a regular basis and is complimented on the fact that he gives them the opportunity to speak their piece.

CosmosDan said:
I remember Killameade walking off once because he made and attempt to actually defend Obama on some minor point and his co hosts mocked him.

.
Are you sure that’s what you remember b/c that is a schtick they do from time to time. Of course some of the sleazier blogs around, such as News Hounds, will trumpet it as a real disagreement showing the cracks in the armor etc.

Paleoconservatarian said:
And a news man, credibility is everything.

Which is kinda the point, when Jon points out what Fox is doing using their own material.

Paleoconservatarian said:
Comedians? Not so much.

Exactly. Jon’s credibility comes from people judging the quality of his satire not the informative value of his news. He has all the credibility as a satirist he needs. Unfortunately Fox doesn’t like him pointing out how often they trash their own credibility and the laughs he gets doing it.

CosmosDan said:
I think it’s unfortunate that the guy lost his rep, but we’re looking at a one sided presentation of the story. I went to youtube and watched the clip that showed the letter. It was a brief polite and professional letter, meant to be between professionals. Your own article indicates that the DS producer was pissed that the letter was shared with the client.
In professional situations there is often accepted traditional protocol. People react differently to that protocol being ignored or violated. In a work situation where relationships can translate into opportunities you have to be careful not to burn bridges and piss off the wrong people. IMO, because the DA is not a news show , there’s nothing horrifying about then deciding where the conservative views will come in. Their show, their call. Simple. The kid decided to make an issue of it. That’s his call, but that kind of thing has repercussions. Maybe his manager was bullied in some way, or maybe the manager decided his relationship with others in the industry was more important than this young comic since he has other clients and his own standing to worry about. Maybe the manager wasn’t expecting the client to go public with a private communication. I don’t know.

Oh, yeah. So polite and professional.

“Thank you for your interest in appearing as a guest on our show, but we here at Jon Stewart’s The Daily Show blacklist certain comedians and deny professional opportunities to those applicants based on political viewpoints they’ve expressed in the past. Your application is denied for these reasons.”

“Please have a nice day.”

So everything’s ok. As long as they were polite. And professional. Wouldn’t want to expose any protocols.

skyfet said:
Start your day by watching the clowns in the morning.

Why are you watching TV ? Aren’t you the Minister of Fire in your village ?

If it goes out , you’ll be sacrificed .

Grammie said:
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Are you sure that’s what you remember b/c that is a schtick they do from time to time. Of course some of the sleazier blogs around, such as News Hounds, will trumpet it as a real disagreement showing the cracks in the armor etc.

Well I only saw the clip so you may be right.
Here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSiJ-pvbKLE

The Chris Wallace thing was not a schtick IMO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiIK8jh3ZCE
it was over the same remark.
It’s the kind of thing I see on Fox and Friends all the freakin time. Let’s analyze a passing remark and turn it into some false controversy.

When Stewart attacks Obama, it is usually because Obama hasn’t been leftwing enough on some particular issue to suit Stewart’s taste (which should tell you how leftwing Stewart really is). But 95% of the time Stewart (and Colbert) are busy attacking conservatives/Republicans.

I don’t know why Stewart’s leftwing drones can’t simply be honest and admit that one reason they love him is that his thinking reflects theirs. One of his best friends is Anthony Weiner, the former attack dog for the Left in the House. Stewart and Weiner are two fairly typical Jewish, New York City leftists. In that regard they are hardly remarkable.

Similarities:

“Jon Stewart: When Confronted Punts ‘I’m A Comedian’”

Every failure of every lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist policy: “It’s Bush’s fault”

The Lantern of Truth said:
Why are you watching TV ? Aren’t you the Minister of Fire in your village ?

If it goes out , you’ll be sacrificed .

Where exactly do you think he is from?

CosmosDan said:
Which is kinda the point, when Jon points out what Fox is doing using their own material.

Exactly. Jon’s credibility comes from people judging the quality of his satire not the informative value of his news. He has all the credibility as a satirist he needs. Unfortunately Fox doesn’t like him pointing out how often they trash their own credibility and the laughs he gets doing it.

You absolutely missed my point. Follow Stewart’s hands. My point was that Stewart’s stand on his credibility, at least in regards to how he maintains that he doesn’t let his admittedly progressive personal leanings drive his on air personae, is one which speaks to his impartiality. But that’s not the coin of his profession. That’s a rationality held by those who profess to be journalists. Which, on the other hand, he absolutely rejects. The coin shows up in his first hand and he claims to be a comedian. But comedians don’t care about impartiality and credibility. They care about making people laugh. The coin is gone again. Where’s the coin?

Stewart’s argumentation is in support of his role as news man for the progressive leaning Comedy Central Network, and at odds with his punt that he’s just a guy who dons a clown nose. He’s got a good think going and making good coin, but for people who think they’re getting some little awareness of current events with large does of entertainment, and not progressive propaganda with the honey of comedic value, they’ve fallen for a man versed in parlor tricks.

Azarkhan said:
When Stewart attacks Obama, it is usually because Obama hasn’t been leftwing enough on some particular

That’s simply false. That might be why Rachel and Cenk attack Obama, but not Stewart. He goes where the comedy is…

Jon Stewart came back to work rested and reinvigorated after a two-week vacation. His first order of business? Rip President Obama a new one for his hazy, unfocused response to the Gusher in the Gulf.

Stewart’s team cleverly cut together (a) footage of Obama swearing that he wouldn’t rest until the damn hole was plugged, and (b) footage of him doing nothing but resting.

BFD said:
Rip President Obama a new one for his hazy, unfocused response to the Gusher in the Gulf.

OK, but the spill was a year ago…

Publius219 said:
Not that what you said makes complete sense, but GOP voters get more off social programs than Democrats, because GOP voters skew more elderly than Democrats, and the elderly get more from social programs than any other demographic group.

Are you excluding those programs that they contributed to all of their lives? If not then you have a very strange, or is it dishonest, way of counting things.

But the president’s phony posturing and phonier accent were the least of his problems. The biggest was that his visit was blatantly self-serving—to raise campaign funds—while ignoring altogether the island’s record crime rate and giving no more than lip service to the staggering unemployment faced by residents of the U.S. territory. Last year the island of 4 million people recorded 955 murders, its second worst year ever for homicides. Its unemployment rate, which is at 16%, is higher than any U.S. state.

Leaders of Puerto Rico’s pro-statehood New Progressive Party noticed the stark absence of any concrete offers of help or solutions with these pressing issues—and they were resentful. Local Sen. Melinda Romero, a delegate of the island’s chapter of the Democratic Party, has demanded an apology from Obama and asked that he return the money raised during the brief stopover. She is quoted by The Washington Examiner as having said:

“The President did not bring anything to the table. His visit only served to take away dollars, just like they take away our young people to war.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/06/20/obamas-puerto-rico-visit-generates-blowback/

Jon Stewart Slams Fox Viewers as Most Misinformed, But He’s the Ignorant One

Paleoconservatarian said:
My point was that Stewart’s stand on his credibility, at least in regards to how he maintains that he doesn’t let his admittedly progressive personal leanings drive his on air personae, is one which speaks to his impartiality.

Except he didn’t say that. He said at least twice that his personal ideology does inform his satire. His personal views do influence how he approaches his profession. His larger point is that you can’t reasonably judge his profession by the same standards you judge journalism. Something Wallace tried to do when he mocked Comedy central. It’s apples and oranges. It’s like saying our bad apple is a still a better apple than your orange is an apple. It’s meaningless.

Paleoconservatarian said:
Stewart’s argumentation is in support of his role as news man for the progressive leaning Comedy Central Network, and at odds with his punt that he’s just a guy who dons a clown nose. He’s got a good think going and making good coin, but for people who think they’re getting some little awareness of current events with large does of entertainment, and not progressive propaganda with the honey of comedic value, they’ve fallen for a man versed in parlor tricks.

I disagree. He sees his role as a political satirist as one that has been around for a long time. He’s said this before and repeated it when he referenced Twain and Rogers. He’s just doing a modern weekly televised version of what they did. Because his stage is a fake news show set with anchor desk those he criticizes keep trying to fit him in their box. It’s a false comparison. It’s not a dodge, it’s just his actual job description flavored by his personal views and preferences.
His show is more cathartic than informative, although if you’re only interested in a superficial approach to current events some prefer laughter over fake outrage. Jon’s job is the same as the satirists before him. Point out the bullshit coming from our elected official, and he has added pointing out the failure of our TV news media to honestly inform us.

OxyCon said:
Jon Stewart Slams Fox Viewers as Most Misinformed, But He’s the Ignorant One

The author seems to have missed a poll or two in his article.

Azarkhan said:
OK, but the spill was a year ago…

I know…it was the fist example I googled of “Jon Stewart mocks Obama”. lol

Here is the second one…

“On Wednesday night’s “Daily Show,” Jon Stewart took aim at President Obama’s recent trip to Puerto Rico. While Obama was technically fulfilling a campaign promise, Stewart saw his trip to the P.R. as more of a P.R. stunt.”

My point is they aren’t ideology based. Jon goes where the comedy is.

Paleoconservatarian said:
Oh, yeah. So polite and professional.

Exactly right. It’s their show and they get to run it as they see fit. If they decide the conservative view will be the guests that’s their call. In the meantime they actually do go after Dems, other media outlets, and anywhere they see an absurdity that needs to be addressed. The union hiring protesters was especially good.

The protocol I referred to was an agent sharing what might be a private communication with a client and the client then going public with it.

BFD said:
My point is they aren’t ideology based. Jon goes where the comedy is.

Oddly enough that’s what he said to Chris Wallace , when Wallace tried to claim he only does that to maintain credibility. He doesn’t need journalistic credibility, {as Fox does} because that’s not his job. It’s supposed to be theirs.

Cosmo says:

You claimed Jon said the other networks weren’t biased.

YES HE DID. Chris asked him if he thought the other networks were biased like he thinks FOX is, AND HE SAID THAT HE DIDN’T. Then he went into his spin about why what they do is different. But before he did that, he said he didn’t think they were biased. Why do you keep lying about this?

DonnaK said:
Bret Baier is not being honest, all you have to do is watch any show on Fox, they all have a conservative bias…From morning to night, especially night, but it is not past their day anchors to throw some shots at the President..MsNBC learns liberal, but at least they have some conservatives with opinions on…Fox toes the conservative line 24/7

Donna, please point out the conservative bias on Sheps show today.

Bret Baier, like Chris Wallace, is just another Fox News tool, so it would be hard to take anything he says actually seriously. But it sure is fun watching Jon Stewart get under the skin of conservatives like Baier and so many others on Fox lately. The Fox crew claim that Stewart is nothing more than a liberal comedian, and yet will have him on their network to confront him on his “comedy.” If Baier truly believes that Stewart is a genius, then what right does he have going toe to toe with the great “genius?” LOL!

You right wingers are fvcking hysterial. You just can’t make this crap up.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Chris asked him if he thought the other networks were biased like he thinks FOX is, AND HE SAID THAT HE DIDN’T.

You’re arguing with yourself, hunnah.

Jon didn’t say he didn’t think the networks had no bias, by your own post it is obvious he said they didn’t have bias LIKE FOX DOES.
He was speaking of a matter of degrees.

Sad that you can’t see the difference. That’s what makes you a great liar. You believe your own bullshit.

Jon Stewart and Bill Maher are exactly the same. They are comedians who believe that they are political analysts, and when they say something stupid or just plain moronic, they say “Hey I’m just a comedian, I kid around”. Jon Stewart is just angry his ratings are not close to anyone on Fox News. Boo-de-freakin’-hoo.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Donna, please point out the conservative bias on Sheps show today.

All the Fox promos during Shep’s news hours skew Right.

Every day, all day.

Fact.

BFD said:
All the Fox promos during Shep’s news hours skew Right.

Every day, all day.

Fact.

Did you hear what Phil Griffin said today? MSNBC is the place for progressives to go. And you say no one has any bias, except for Fox News.

The Lantern of Truth said: Any adult who takes Stewart seriously is a dolt .

Then why do so many adult conservative/right wing people get so offended at anything Jon Stewart says or does?

Lolwut said:
Then why do so many adult conservative/right wing people get so offended at anything Jon Stewart says or does?

We’re only offended by his lies.

Zandandido said:
Did you hear what Phil Griffin said today? MSNBC is the place for progressives to go.
And you say no one has any bias, except for Fox News.

Ummm…I never said that.
Anyone who pays attention knows I always say MSNBC is the flip side of the same coin.
And I don’t appreciate them rolling around in the mud with Fox. It takes away our moral high ground.

Please don’t put words in my mouth kthx.

BFD said:
It takes away our moral high ground.

LOL. I’ve always liked your sense of humor.

Azarkhan said:
We’re only offended by his lies.

They are not lies they are jokes.

You do realize it really doesn’t take 3 Polish people to screw in a lightbulb, right?

even jon stewart said he deserves no crediability

BFD said:
They are not lies they are jokes

Stewart lies when he says he does not have a leftwing agenda. Of course he does, which is why you and other leftists like him so much.

Azarkhan said:
Stewart lies when he says he does not have a leftwing agenda.

There is a difference between comedy having an agenda and coming from personal belief system.
All comedy comes from a personal belief system and Jon admits his does too.
But that is not the agenda. The agenda is to make people laugh.

Fox has an agenda, and it isn’t to inform, it is to influence, which is unfortunate for a news organization.

BFD said:
You do realize it really doesn’t take 3 Polish people to screw in a lightbulb, right?

An Italian, an American, and a Pole were captured by the French for various crimes and are taken to the Guillotine.

The executioner places the Italian on the block and asks if he has any last words. The Italian replies, “I pray to the Virgin Mary that I may live.” They drop the blade it it stops a mere inch above the Italian’s neck. Amazed, the French let him go.

Next, the American is put in position and asked if he has any final words. He replies, “In the name of Jesus Christ, please have mercy.” They drop the blade, and again it stops just an inch from the American’s neck. In disbelief, they let him go free.

Then the Pole is placed on the block, and they ask if he has any last words. He says, “Yeah. You’ve got a knot in your rope.”

CosmosDan said:
Except he didn’t say that. He said at least twice that his personal ideology does inform his satire. His personal views do influence how he approaches his profession.

He always says this. He said it in so many words in this interview, though was careful of it’s phrasing. To say his ideology informs his satire is another way of saying he’s a human with opinions, and those opinions invariably show. But that’s everybody. His impartiality, though, is part of his spiel. It’s the mantra of his legion; that he spoofs all equally – and he does take downs of Fox News or conservatives more often because, well, they deserve it. (they don’t. It’s his politics.)

CosmosDan said:
His larger point is that you can’t reasonably judge his profession by the same standards you judge journalism.

Asides from the fact that many people do get their news from Stewart, and that many see him as a trusted source, which he blames on his targets and not to his sugarcoating of progressive thought for a sympathetic audience seeking confirmation of beliefs, the larger point is lost in the point that both professions at their highest form seek to distill issues for their truths and untruths; journalism in which to inform and comedy in which to enlighten.

CosmosDan said:
Jon’s job is the same as the satirists before him. Point out the bullshit coming from our elected official, and he has added pointing out the failure of our TV news media to honestly inform us.

And he does this from a fake news desk, the subliminal message being to make up for that failure by getting informed at his fake news desk. From a person with admittedly progressive leanings. Propagandistic indoctrination complete.

I like Stewart’s show sometimes, not to say I like it only when he goes after leftists, but especially so when I feel he’s being honest and fair with his criticisms regardless of his target. He often isn’t, but an informed person knows when this is happening. A fan inculcated with his parlor act of the satirist / commentator hand trick doesn’t and is simply being propagandized. He knows this as well as the next man, because he’s so smart.

Azarkhan said:
You’ve got a knot in your rope.”

lmfao

BFD said:
You’re arguing with yourself, hunnah. Jon didn’t say he didn’t think the networks had no bias, by your own post it is obvious he said they didn’t have bias LIKE FOX DOES.He was speaking of a matter of degrees. Sad that you can’t see the difference. That’s what makes you a great liar. You believe your own bullshit.

WRONG, Chris asked him if he thinks that the other networks have a liberal bias and he said NO!!!! Not degrees. It was a yes or no question. Do they have a liberal bias and he said NO. You are seriously learning impaired.

Why is everyone so sensitive to what John Stewart does or thinks? He’s not “punting” on anything. Fox (and a lot of the commenters here) icontribute to Stewart’s prominence. That is the ultimate irony. All of you objectors to Stewart and his take on the news just shows how important you have made him.

No Kevin, we are just sick of liberal hacks claiming FOX is corrupt and the rest of the media are pure as snow. It’s a bald-faced lie that isn’t going to stand as truth anymore.

Jon Stewart and Bill Maher are elitist who are out of touch with what is really going on in the US. If you disagree with their political views they call you racists and many other vile names. Yet they claim they are not political., but comedians…yet their whole shows are BASED ON POLITICS.

So Stewart, Maher and Colbert are lairs when they say they are just comedians….they are really political elitists using their programs to push their politics.

This country’s “Jeff Spicolis” may get their news from Stewart – but then, they forget it 15 minutes later because their too stoned to remember.

-Stewart is IT with the bong-water smelling set-

Jon Stewart Slams Fox Viewers as Most Misinformed, But He’s the Ignorant One

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rich-noyes/2011/06/20/jon-stewart-slams-fox-viewers-most-misinformed-hes-ignorant-one#ixzz1Pr7kLgfL

CosmosDan said:
Exactly right. It’s their show and they get to run it as they see fit. If they decide the conservative view will be the guests that’s their call. In the meantime they actually do go after Dems, other media outlets, and anywhere they see an absurdity that needs to be addressed. The union hiring protesters was especially good.

The protocol I referred to was an agent sharing what might be a private communication with a client and the client then going public with it.

Again, not the point I was making. They are an entertainment show banning conservative viewpoints from their midst, and the midst of the American people, simply because they have one of their own ideological sympaticos at one of the gates. That’s typical unjust Hollywood intellectual whitewashing, and a danger to our society.

Azarkhan said:

BFD said:
It takes away our moral high ground.

LOL. I’ve always liked your sense of humor.

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No joke and it was still funny as hell.

CosmosDan said:
It’s not hard at all. It’s simply a news satire program deciding what formula works best for the satire they are presenting. Anyone who has watched the show has seen them go after liberals , unions, Obama, whatever. Jon has on conservative guests on a regular basis and is complimented on the fact that he gives them the opportunity to speak their piece.

The point is not whether they will book Newt Gingrich because he is high profile. But that they will not book Steven Crowder because he is conservative. Because, ultimately, they are a show with a political hatchet to grind.

Baier’s analysis is weak sauce. If he can’t think deeply enough to understand Stewart’s point, why should we believe he can think deeply enough about the economy, or foreign affairs, or politics to trust his analysis there?

This whole issue is bullshit because Stewart doesn’t “punt” anything claiming to be a comedian. He is a comedian, and the cons hate him because of the truth in his comedy and how he breaks them down for some people who otherwise might not be paying attention. How many times has the Oxycontin junkie, Rush uttered the phrase “don’t get your panties in a bunch, I was joking”. Pill popper Limbaugh is the one who routinely tries to hide behind the punt of comedy to cover his vile racist, sexist, homophobic,…..ect. comments.

The Daily Show is funny, but Colbert is a much smarter comedian then Stewart.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
WRONG, Chris asked him if he thinks that the other networks have a liberal bias and he said NO!!!! Not degrees. It was a yes or no question. Do they have a liberal bias and he said NO. You are seriously learning impaired.

Ok, let’s have a battle of the quotes.
Jon never said the MSM wasn’t biased, here is what he said they “weren’t”…..

__________________________________________________________________________

“Wallace: Are you willing to say the same thing about the mainstream media..ABC, CBS, NBC, Post, NY Times…that they are in your words “A propaganda delivery system relentlessly pushing a liberal agenda”?

Jon: Nah, I wouldn’t say that.
__________________________________________________________
Jon specifically said the MSM WERE biased by sensationalism and laziness.

Now you show the quote where “Chris asked him if he thinks that the other networks have a LIBERAL BIAS (your words) and he said NO!!!! Not degrees. It was a yes or no question.”

Thanks.

m_mayhem said:
This whole issue is bullshit because Stewart doesn’t “punt” anything claiming to be a comedian. He is a comedian, and the cons hate him because of the truth in his comedy and how he breaks them down for some people who otherwise might not be paying attention. How many times has the Oxycontin junkie, Rush uttered the phrase “don’t get your panties in a bunch, I was joking”. Pill popper Limbaugh is the one who routinely tries to hide behind the punt of comedy to cover his vile racist, sexist, homophobic,…..ect. comments.

cjd ohio 1 said:
even jon stewart said he deserves no crediability

and we have a winner

So to be clear, you are saying Nah, I wouldn’t say that. and NO are 2 different things? Man, you are dumber than I thought. I didn’t think that was possible.

Hey! All you left wing democratic diaper wearing cubicle babieswanting to destroy this Country progressive wingniuts……Why argue this point? You know there’s a bias…I know you morons laugh, and every time there’s a post about it, you libturds laugh even harder…..
The thing is, is WE are getting on to you libturds(LSM)…THAT’S whats pissing you off…

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
No Kevin, we are just sick of liberal hacks claiming FOX is corrupt and the rest of the media are pure as snow. It’s a bald-faced lie that isn’t going to stand as truth anymore.

Stewart has never claimed any media are ‘pure as snow.” That’s his whole point. Every network has some point of view – nothing wrong with that. FOX however tries to hide behind its mantra of “fair and balanced” when it is demonstrably false – with or without John Stewart. Comedy Central is, by the way, not a news newtwork. The fact that so many try to treat it as such is further proof of Stewart’s comedy.

Kevin McCarthy said:
Stewart has never claimed any media are ‘pure as snow.” That’s his whole point. Every network has some point of view – nothing wrong with that. FOX however tries to hide behind its mantra of “fair and balanced” when it is demonstrably false – with or without John Stewart. Comedy Central is, by the way, not a news newtwork. The fact that so many try to treat it as such is further proof of Stewart’s comedy.

true, but he says other networks are not liberal, but they are lazy and sensationalize

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
So to be clear, you are saying Nah, I wouldn’t say that. and NO are 2 different things? Man, you are dumber than I thought. I didn’t think that was possible.

No you friggin idiot, I am saying “bias” and “A propaganda delivery system relentlessly pushing a liberal agenda” are two different things.

BFD said:
No you friggin idiot, I am saying “bias” and “A propaganda delivery system relentlessly pushing a liberal agenda” are two different things.

I am still waiting for your quote from the interview where Jon said the MSM weren’t biased.

OxyCon said:
His fans are thin skinned too as evidenced by this funny video. Notice the number of dislikes as opposed to the number of comments and views.

Uhhhh…..The number of dislikes is evidence that this dumbass video is 1) not funny 2) pointless and meaningless. The number of comments is evidence that most people didn’t think it was worth the time or effort to comment on such a poor piece of crap video.

Kevin McCarthy said:
Stewart has never claimed any media are ‘pure as snow.” That’s his whole point. Every network has some point of view – nothing wrong with that. FOX however tries to hide behind its mantra of “fair and balanced” when it is demonstrably false – with or without John Stewart. Comedy Central is, by the way, not a news newtwork. The fact that so many try to treat it as such is further proof of Stewart’s comedy.

You are, of course, wrong, and the proof is in your claim that Fox’s fair and balanced mantra is demonstrably false. There’s a link in this thread that The Daily Show rejects guests based on their being conservative. The same cannot demonstrably be said of Fox News, which offers counter-points in all of their news programs and some of their commentary shows. This is the very opposite of the case you lay out is, in fact, reality. The show you’re here defending is the one with an ideological barrier in place as a matter of policy, on the record.

i would say they have a bias towards sensationalism and laziness, but not a liberal agenda

BFD said:
All comedy comes from a personal belief system and Jon admits his does too.

Huh?

BFD said:
I am still waiting for your quote from the interview where Jon said the MSM weren’t biased.

I love how every time Tormentor is cornered she all of a sudden disappears to take her son to hockey practice.

That hockey practice is damn convenient!

Actually, it’s soccer and he left for scout camp this morning. I miss the little guy. And I didn’t run away. I’m through trying to convince you that “no”, and “nah, I wouldn’t say that” are the same thing. The jury is in, you are an idiot, wrapped in a moron.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Actually, it’s soccer and he left for scout camp this morning. I miss the little guy. And I didn’t run away. I’m through trying to convince you that “no”, and “nah, I wouldn’t say that” are the same thing. The jury is in, you are an idiot, wrapped in a moron.

Still waiting for that quote.

I showed you mine, you show me yours.

Greg said:
Blue states tend to pay more in federal taxes than they receive in federal allotments… Helpful infographic.http://www.visualeconomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/tax.jpg

That’s partly because blue states are obligated to support federal land, highways, projects, mil bases, laboratories, IRS facilities, etc. that are housed in red states. And, partly because of our progressive tax structure, see, the progressives in the blue states are getting exactly what they want.

Stewart won. Fox hates that.

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LOVE that Fox was schooled so bad they had to EDIT THE INTERVIEW FOR TV

cjd ohio 1 said:
even jon stewart said he deserves no crediability

Stewart likes it both ways: he likes to think he’s a force and then at other times, he hides behind “just being a comic.”

It’s tiring.

And the fact that he’s smart means very little. The math isn’t with him:

smart * wrong = wrong

george L said:
Stewart won. Fox hates that.

Stewart won nothing. He’s a worm. Why do I think he’s a worm? Because he advances nothing. He just criticizes.

ChickaBOOMer| Wallace & Stewart: Smokin’, Not “Epic”
http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2011/06/wallace-stewart-smokin-not-epic.html

Bill Huggins said:
LOVE that Fox was schooled so bad they had to EDIT THE INTERVIEW FOR TV

I know I should suppose you actually do realize interviews for television, unless they’re live, are almost always edited for time and that full interviews are available on-line, as is the case here. But somehow I do.

Rio said:
That’s partly because blue states are obligated to support federal land, highways, projects, mil bases, laboratories, IRS facilities, etc. that are housed in red states. And, partly because of our progressive tax structure, see, the progressives in the blue states are getting exactly what they want.

And yes… Rand Paul is elected to represent a state which bleeds my state (IL) as a critic of federal spending while his constituents benefit from federal spending… Exactly my point. The right gets what it says it doesn’t want then complains that others get it…. Odd political stance to say the least.

Correction:

Paleoconservatarian said:
I know I shouldn’t suppose

I hate it when bad things happen to my overwrought and needless attempts to be clever.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:

YES HE DID. Chris asked him if he thought the other networks were biased like he thinks FOX is, AND HE SAID THAT HE DIDN’T.

That’s a dishonest representation of what was actually said. Let’s have the specific words, and then we’ll see. Have you watched the full interview yet?

Paleoconservatarian said:
They are an entertainment show banning conservative viewpoints from their midst, and the midst of the American people

This is clearly false to anyone watching the show. Is that your point?

Paleoconservatarian said:
The point is not whether they will book Newt Gingrich because he is high profile. But that they will not book Steven Crowder because he is conservative. Because, ultimately, they are a show with a political hatchet to grind.

Wait ! didn’t you just say they ban conservative viewpoints? There is no point to be made by the words of Crowder’s letter. It’s a comedy show and it’s up to them to to decide what formula of comedy works best for them. They are not news and have made no claim about being fair and balanced. Jon says that he {they} are driven by doing comedy first, that is informed by ideology. Crowders letter says they do not hire conservative pundits {rather than comics} What does that mean exactly? Maybe it means they thought Crowder’s material was too ideology driven. I don’t really know, but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t prove what you’re trying to make it prove.

Oh, all comedians fall back on the “just jokin’ dawg” excuse whenever they say something that puts them in hot water. At least he’s not being a douche about it and lamenting the so-called “PC police” or going on about “political correctness gone mad,” or blaming his mistakes on unseen forces like “liberal mind control,” like so many untalented, and therefor popular, comedians/shock jocks do when someone calls them out on their stupidity.

Stewart and the commentato rs on FOX News serve a similar purpose — to present a particular point of view while entertaining their viewers. Of course, there are important differences as well.

Stewart is a political satirist — his goal is not to sway the public’s opinion, nor does he regard himself as a serious reporter or journalist. He uses humor to point out the absurditie s in the world around us, attempting to get people to think more critically about the events of the day.

Meanwhile, FOX News disingenuously refers to itself as being “fair and balanced”. Oh the irony!

FOX News Network is no longer merely reporting the news. They are CREATING the news by promoting controversial events before they have taken place, propagating fear and hatred against a subset of the population, and proselytizing a specific agenda with the stated goal of assisting the Congressional Republican leadership attain their political objectives. In addition, they will filter out any story that they perceive will cast a positive light on Obama’s administration and will present speculative hyperbole as verified fact in an attempt to sway their viewers to accept a specific preconceived conclusion .

Ailes and the reporters, writers, and political commentators of FOX News have reduced themselves to a propaganda tool for the conservative/tea party faction of the GOP. That is certainly their right, but they lose the justification to be regarded as “fair and balanced” and to be indignantly self-righteous when called out on it.

Wow, they expect us to believe that they don’t understand comedy and satire?

Fox just keeps showing their cards with this one. Hah, Jon Stewart a political force. That’s rich.

Prom Night Dumpster Baby said:
Wow, they expect us to believe that they don’t understand comedy and satire?

Fox just keeps showing their cards with this one. Hah, Jon Stewart a political force. That’s rich.

Well, to be fair, Stewart seems to select his targets based on hypocrisy and absurdity, which means that the right wing is overrepresented among those he flambés.

Fox selects its targets based on what Roger Ailes tells them to select, which means that the left wing (I have to chortle when I use that phrase — how about “moderates and those left of center”) is overrepresented among those they demonize.

Yeah, Anne Coulter, Glenn Beck, they’ve NEVER done that, have they? Next…

Fact: Drop Kick punt at that. Stewart smiles as he says he’ll be glad to come back.

Bill Huggins said:
LOVE that Fox was schooled so bad they had to EDIT THE INTERVIEW FOR TV

Fact: Fox had to live it up some so that people wouldn’t turn the station to somewhere else. That’s it.

Paleoconservatarian said:
You are, of course, wrong, and the proof is in your claim that Fox’s fair and balanced mantra is demonstrably false. There’s a link in this thread that The Daily Show rejects guests based on their being conservative. The same cannot demonstrably be said of Fox News, which offers counter-points in all of their news programs and some of their commentary shows. This is the very opposite of the case you lay out is, in fact, reality. The show you’re here defending is the one with an ideological barrier in place as a matter of policy, on the record.

Whether or not The Daily Show has an “idealogical barrier in place” is completely and totally beside the point. The Daily Show is a COMEDY show. It’s pretending to be a news show. Comedy Central is an entertainment channel.

Actually, one could argue that description fits FoxNews and most of its lineup – except that FoxNew is nowhere near as entertaining.

“He is a political force and there’s no denying it. He touches a lot of young people …”

Comedy is good for the soul and political satire also benefits the mind. What Fox Nosie is more concerned about is that Mr. Stewart shines the truth on their dark lies and beliefs and making them look stupid in the process. So stupid that they would pitt one of their more conservative and marginally negative commentators up against a comedian. How stupid is that!