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Democrat Sen. Joe Manchin: President Obama Has ‘Failed To Lead’ On Budget Debate

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Joe Manchin is the Democratic junior senator from West Virginia who got a lot of attention for his somewhat notorious “Dead Aim” campaign ad that featured his shooting of a piece of paper that had “Cap and Trade Bill” printed on it. It wasn’t so much the gun shooting that raised a nation’s eyebrows, it was Manchin’s rhetoric that appeared to counter President Obama‘s positions, specifically with regards to what he called “the bad parts of ObamaCare.” Well Manchin appears to be going after Obama again, though this time its on the Senate floor.

In the following clip, Manchin calls out what he calls the “political theater” surrounding the current budget debate, before asking “why the Senate is voting on partisan proposals that we know will fail” before calling out what he deems Obama’s lack of leadership on balancing the federal budget for the coming year. The tone of the language is not particularly harsh on its own, but when one considers that the source is a fellow member of the Democratic party, one wonders just how this will play out for Manchin in the end.

Cynics are sure to see this as a fairly naked and calculated appeal to his constituents back home, but its unlikely that this will play well with Democratic leadership inside the beltway (which, in turn, is likely only to further Manchin’s standing back home in West Virginia.) The other oddity worth noting in this clip is Manchin’s own ostensible dereliction of duty as an elected representative of his state. No where does it say that Manchin needs to wait for Obama to present a proposal that is most appealing to both sides of the aisle.

If balancing a budget such an easy proposition, then that would likely have been accomplished long ago. As anyone familiar with playing chess knows, sometimes the best move is to make is the least consequential, forcing the opponent to take an offensive position (and revealing a defenseless flank.) In this case, Manchin appears to be abstaining from making a chess move entirely, choosing instead to point a finger at someone playing the game.

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  • BadGenome

    Manchin then demonstrated his displeasure by stapling Obama’s budget proposal to a tree and shooting it with a bazooka.

  • skyfet

    What’s new? ask those who were frustrated by the HC debate.

  • Black and Gold Brad

    BadGenome said:
    Manchin then demonstrated his displeasure by stapling Obama’s budget proposal to a tree and shooting it with a bazooka.

    Thread winner, by a mile.

  • OxyCon

    Obama’s tendency to “vote present” is no longer a secret.
    There’s quite a difference between being a poseur and being a leader.
    You can hate Bush all you want, but that man was always out on the front lines of every issue and every legislative and political battle, while Obama is always the last one to peek out from behind his desk, when he thinks it’s safe to lift his head up from his hidey hole.

  • CAconservative

    Have you noticed, not much about this story in the Liberal Press? Must be one of those embarrassing moments they’d rather just sweep under the rug. Problem is, the rug ain’t big enough to hide the number of Democrats echoing Mr.Manchin’s remarks.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    …and on the economy, foreign affairs, war, bringing the country together, illegal immigration, terrorism, race issues, jobs, poverty, education, the deficit, lobbyists…and on, and on,

    The most DECEITFUL Administration in US History – Note he never has a good word to say about AMERICA’S Founding Fathers & Traditions!

    2012!
    PURGE THE DEMOCRATS!

  • Black and Gold Brad

    CAconservative said:
    Have you noticed, not much about this story in the Liberal Press?

    Doesn’t quite fit the narrative.

  • TeaPartyPatriot

    As usual, manchin is WRONG: “You Lie!” is LEADING – right down the lunatic-left d-crat socialist “Road to He11″.

    “You Lie!” hussein cares about the deficit greatly and he wants to MASSIVELY INCREASE IT EVEN MORE because that his is WEAPON TO DESTROY WHAT HE HATES: AMERICA.

    The ENEMIES of AMERICA, the lunatic-left d-crat socialists and the chinese communists, are working together to destroy our country. Anybody who isn’t aware of that has got to be even more mentally defective than a lunatic-lefty. Khrushchev had it wrong when he issued is hollow claim that “We will bury you !” The Chinese communists have an approach that will work: “We will OWN you !” With the unlimited help from the out-of-control spending, massive deficits and debt and actions favoring china over America of the d-crat socialists, they very likely will succeed.

    Nov 2012 – we must get “You Lie!” out before he completely destroys our country.

  • illusive man

    Obama has “Failed to Lead”

    That is all the headline and article had to say.

  • rover37

    wow !

  • http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

    Let’s not lose sight that Joe Manchin comes from the dumbest of the 50 states, where Obama got like 30% of the vote when he was really popular. I’m sure that stereotypical West Virginian bigotry and idiocy has nothing to do with it, either.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Just three more democrats like him and ObamaCare is gone.

  • TrollJuice

    Why is this Democratic Senator using Republican talking points? Did he receive the same memo?

  • TrollJuice

    No Gordon you fool, you need 60 votes. Did you forget?

  • Religion of Peace

    Publius219 said:
    Let’s not lose sight that Joe Manchin comes from the dumbest of the 50 states, where Obama got like 30% of the vote when he was really popular. I’m sure that stereotypical West Virginian bigotry and idiocy has nothing to do with it, either.

    Puby, you forgot to add he’s “just a dino!” Don’t get me wrong, you’re still a progressive hypocrite.

  • lane

    I’m with Manchin. Obama’s punting of the budget is designed to pin the blame on congress for the necessary cuts, when he should be leading with a real budget plan. Leaders lead. Why bother to be President if you’re going to sit on the sidelines….

    Rome, fiddle, you know the rest….

  • notsofast

    Democrat Sen. Joe Manchin: President Obama Has ‘Failed To Lead’

    But BHO has not failed to lie!

  • lane

    TrollJuice said:
    Why is this Democratic Senator using Republican talking points? Did he receive the same memo?

    Silly senator, as he acts asa representative to the will of his consitutents. Or maybe he’s just looking at his grandkids, feeling guilty that his party would rather party now and leave the bills for them to pay. Remember when Clinton got serious about the budget, and worked with republicans to cut welfare and get the US back to budget surplus. Good memories… I was a democrat then too..

  • BadGenome

    Publius219 said:
    Let’s not lose sight that Joe Manchin comes from the dumbest of the 50 states, where Obama got like 30% of the vote when he was really popular. I’m sure that stereotypical West Virginian bigotry and idiocy has nothing to do with it, either.

    They reliably vote Democrat and kept electing a Klansman until he finally died. You don’t have to convince us of West Virginia’s stupidity and racism.

  • right-is-wrong

    CAconservative said:
    Have you noticed, not much about this story in the Liberal Press? Must be one of those embarrassing moments they’d rather just sweep under the rug. Problem is, the rug ain’t big enough to hide the number of Democrats echoing Mr.Manchin’s remarks.

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/03/manchin-rips-obama-for-failing-to-lead-in-spending-fight.html
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20040584-503544.html
    even msnbc
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41971263

  • OxyCon

    Publius219 said:
    Let’s not lose sight that Joe Manchin comes from the dumbest of the 50 states, where Obama got like 30% of the vote when he was really popular. I’m sure that stereotypical West Virginian bigotry and idiocy has nothing to do with it, either.

    Are you angling for a job at NPR? I hear there’s an opening at the executive level position.

  • OxyCon

    TrollJuice said:
    No Gordon you fool, you need 60 votes. Did you forget?

    Except for Obamacare.

  • roxsteady

    Awe….Keep preaching to the toothless teabaggers in your state Joe. It worked so well for Blanche Lincoln. See Joe, you’re now part of the Legislative Branch where legislation is written. The President is the Executive Branch and while he’s pulled Congress’ ass out of the fire recently, it’s actually your job.. See, Joe just wants the President to put something out there so that he can trash it to show his constituents that he can talk dumbass just like them!

  • OxyCon

    roxsteady said:
    Awe….Keep preaching to the toothless teabaggers in your state Joe. It worked so well for Blanche Lincoln. See Joe, you’re now part of the Legislative Branch where legislation is written. The President is the Executive Branch and while he’s pulled Congress’ ass out of the fire recently, it’s actually your job.. See, Joe just wants the President to put something out there so that he can trash it to show his constituents that he can talk dumbass just like them!

    Another NPR aspirant.

  • cjd ohio 1

    roxsteady said:
    Awe….Keep preaching to the toothless teabaggers in your state Joe. It worked so well for Blanche Lincoln. See Joe, you’re now part of the Legislative Branch where legislation is written. The President is the Executive Branch and while he’s pulled Congress’ ass out of the fire recently, it’s actually your job.. See, Joe just wants the President to put something out there so that he can trash it to show his constituents that he can talk dumbass just like them!

    the president to put something out there………..hell no that would be leadership damn

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Publius219 said:
    Let’s not lose sight that Joe Manchin comes from the dumbest of the 50 states, where Obama got like 30% of the vote when he was really popular. I’m sure that stereotypical West Virginian bigotry and idiocy has nothing to do with it, either.

    bigot.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    roxsteady said:
    Awe….Keep preaching to the toothless teabaggers in your state Joe.

    bigot.

  • OxyCon

    sarainitaly said:
    bigot.

    Nobody can be bigoted against Whites because Whites are the only race throughout history that has ever oppressed others. Isn’t that the excuse leftists use for their bigotry?

  • JamesA1102

    sarainitaly said:
    bigot.

    Sara (who loves America so much that she lives in another country where she benefits from government healthcare) is the last person to call someone else a bigot.

  • Scott_in_MI

    You’re all talk Manchin. When you had the change to vote for repealing ObamaCare (THE BIGGEST SPENDING SCHEME IN U.S. HISTORY) you VOTED FOR IT.

    You ran as a “conservative” dem, but your votes prove you’re a far leftwinger, but you’ll soon lose your seat.

    http://www.nrsc.org/as-manchin-votes-for-obamacare-nrsc-launches-new-online-ad-campaign-joe-o-on-tour

  • Liberty_Hound

    Has “Failed to Lead”. And when has he ever lead?

  • WCinWI

    Haha I knew Manchin was gonna be an alright seat to lose because Palin came out in his defense in how he was a good guy when he was Governor and whenever they would meet up.

    Anyone Palin/Manchin – Uniting the two parties? :)

  • WCinWI

    JamesA1102 said:
    Sara (who loves America so much that she lives in another country where she benefits from government healthcare) is the last person to call someone else a bigot.

    James – Just because the new Democratic logo is worse than the Big 10 logo, don’t be so angry.

  • BadGenome

    JamesA1102 said:
    Sara (who loves America so much that she lives in another country where she benefits from government healthcare) is the last person to call someone else a bigot.

    What, praytell, does that have to do with bigotry? Protip: don’t use words if you don’t know what they mean.

  • OxyCon

    Liberty_Hound said:
    Has “Failed to Lead”. And when has he ever lead?

    His specialty is self promotion.

  • Liberty_Hound

    This article does a lot of speculation of why Joe made this speech. But they missed one. Maybe he actually wants to do something positive and get our fiscal house in order and to do it Congress has to present something the President will sign. The President doesn’t want to lead because he doesn’t like specifics. He never has. Just like when he said “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming of America”. If he had been more specific he would not have become President.

    The only good the Obama administration has done is wake up America. And in a way not to his liking.

  • Mexican2

    JamesA1102 said:
    Sara (who loves America so much that she lives in another country where she benefits from government healthcare) is the last person to call someone else a bigot.

    Defends her own tooth and nail though.

  • JamesA1102

    WCinWI said:
    James – Just because the new Democratic logo is worse than the Big 10 logo, don’t be so angry.

    Not angry. Just pointing out facts. Why are you so threatened by that?

    BadGenome said:
    What, praytell, does that have to do with bigotry? Protip: don’t use words if you don’t know what they mean.

    I never said it had anything to do with bigorty. You did.

  • BadGenome

    JamesA1102 said:
    I never said it had anything to do with bigorty. You did.

    I never said anything about bigorty. You did; I said bigotry. Bigotry is the state of being a bigot. You said she should be the last person to call someone else a bigot, so… connect the dots (assuming you’ve made it that far in school; did you graduate from fingerpainting yet?).

  • JamesA1102

    Now you’re changing the subject. She called several people bigots because they disagreed with her. I called her out for that. You chose to jump in to an to it without understanding what it was all about.

  • illusive man

    JamesA1102 said:
    Sara (who loves America so much that she lives in another country where she benefits from government healthcare) is the last person to call someone else a bigot.

    JamesA1102 said:
    Not angry. Just pointing out facts. Why are you so threatened by that? I never said it had anything to do with bigorty. You did.

    JamesA1102 said:
    Now you’re changing the subject. She called several people bigots because they disagreed with her. I called her out for that. You chose to jump in to an to it without understanding what it was all about.

    Typical dem, No understanding of the situation at hand.

  • BadGenome

    JamesA1102 said:
    Now you’re changing the subject. She called several people bigots because they disagreed with her. I called her out for that. You chose to jump in to an to it without understanding what it was all about.

    Aaaaand… what does that have to do with her living in Italy? And why is she the last person to call someone a bigot? You do realize that saying that implies that she is a bigot, right?

  • WCinWI

    JamesA1102 said:
    Now you’re changing the subject. She called several people bigots because they disagreed with her. I called her out for that. You chose to jump in to an to it without understanding what it was all about.

    Or she referred to them as bigots because they were bigots.

  • Pablo

    BadGenome said:
    Aaaaand… what does that have to do with her living in Italy? And why is she the last person to call someone a bigot? You do realize that saying that implies that she is a bigot, right?

    James isn’t very bright, so perhaps not.

  • JamesA1102

    illusive man said:
    Typical dem, No understanding of the situation at hand.

    Seems like you’re the one jumping into something you have no understanding of.

  • JamesA1102

    BadGenome said:
    Aaaaand… what does that have to do with her living in Italy?

    Nothing. I never said that it did. You did.

    BadGenome said:
    And why is she the last person to call someone a bigot?

    Mainly due to posts she made here and on her blog.

  • JamesA1102

    WCinWI said:
    Or she referred to them as bigots because they were bigots.

    No it was because they disagreed with her.

  • JamesA1102

    Pablo said:
    James isn’t very bright, so perhaps not.

    I always know that I’m winning when you guys resort to the cheap insults.

  • JamesA1102

    BTW Anyone who doesn’t think this site doesn’t tilt to the right, just look at this article. First, the headline: “Democrat Sen. Joe Manchin”. Instead of saying ‘Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin’ which is the proper usage of the word, they follow the GOP policy of always using the word Democrat. Second, this isn’t a media story. It is a political one. Why is it even here? Third, no other major news site is covering this so prominently, except one: FOX.
    So what we have here is a purely political story pulled from the FOX website and using GOP-speak in the headline. You can go on claiming to be non-partisan Mediaite but you’re not fooling anyone anymore. Instead you’re proving what Keith Olbermann said last week that you’re ” another reactionary, right-leaning dog’s breakfast that ultimately serves merely as a kind of internet hairpiece to cover its founder’s vendettas and personal dislikes.”

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    JamesA1102 said:
    No it was because they disagreed with her.

    JamesA1102 said:
    Now you’re changing the subject. She called several people bigots because they disagreed with her. I called her out for that. You chose to jump in to an to it without understanding what it was all about.

    LIAR.
    Where the hello did they disagree with me in this thread?
    I called them bigots because they made bigoted statements towards others.
    Notice all the people here calling you out for being idiotic?
    You are the one jumping in with no understanding….

  • BadGenome

    JamesA1102 said:
    I always know that I’m winning when you guys resort to the cheap insults.

    You’re winning alright, just like Charlie Sheen!

  • JamesA1102

    BadGenome said:
    You’re winning alright, just like Charlie Sheen!

    Lame comeback. And again you resort to a cheap insult.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    BadGenome said:
    You’re winning alright, just like Charlie Sheen!

    HAHA

    do you think he’s on the same drug, *CHARLIE SHEEN*! haha

  • JamesA1102

    sarainitaly said:
    LIAR.Where the hello did they disagree with me in this thread?I called them bigots because they made bigoted statements towards others.Notice all the people here calling you out for being idiotic?You are the one jumping in with no understanding….

    Please Sara (who loves America so much that she lives in another country where she benefits from government healthcare) you’re not fooling anyone You disagreed with what they said so instead of engaging them in debate, you resorted to name calling as you always do.

  • JamesA1102

    sarainitaly said:
    HAHA do you think he’s on the same drug, *CHARLIE SHEEN*! haha

    BTW for someone who is in Itally, you’re up very late.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    JamesA1102 said:
    BTW for someone who is in Itally, you’re up very late.

    it’s 1:38am. Last time I checked, i was an adult and didn’t have a bed time, or need a babysitter.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    JamesA1102 said:
    Please Sara (who loves America so much that she lives in another country where she benefits from government healthcare) you’re not fooling anyone You disagreed with what they said so instead of engaging them in debate, you resorted to name calling as you always do.

    Yes, I disagreed with what they said, because it was bigoted. How do you debate someone who makes statements like that? You don’t – you call them out on their bigoted hateful comments. What ever happened to *civility*?

    Publius219 said:
    Let’s not lose sight that Joe Manchin comes from the dumbest of the 50 states, where Obama got like 30% of the vote when he was really popular. I’m sure that stereotypical West Virginian bigotry and idiocy has nothing to do with it, either.
    bigot.

    roxsteady said:
    Awe….Keep preaching to the toothless teabaggers in your state Joe.

    “you resorted to name calling as you always do”

    Do you EVER do anything but personally attack me? NO, you don’t. You never engage me, you never debate me, you make personal attacks and stupid a** comments about me living in Italy, and government healthcare, like it is any of your business and has NOTHING to do with the topics, EVER.

    Spare me your friggin hypocrisy and BS. Spare all of us. At least others on here actually contribute, it may be rubbish, but it is something. You contribute n o t h i n g.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    sarainitaly said:
    “you resorted to name calling as you always do”

    what the HELLO were they doing?????????????????????????? Did you call THEM out?
    No, you didn’t. Do you follow them around and harass them? No, you don’t.
    You’re not fooling anyone, James.

  • Liberty_Hound

    sarainitaly, is that your real picture?..If so, not bad, not bad at all. Great smile too!…And to top it off a conservative. At least from what I can tell. I don’t know what you do for a living but FNC could use a few more brunettes in front of the camera.

    Ok, peanut gallery, as inappropriate as my comments may seem in this setting they’re meant in good taste so please don’t follow up with foul mouth crap.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    sarainitaly said:
    JamesA1102 said:
    No it was because they disagreed with her.

    JamesA1102 said:
    Now you’re changing the subject. She called several people bigots because they disagreed with her. I called her out for that. You chose to jump in to an to it without understanding what it was all about.

    JamesA1102 said:
    Please Sara (who loves America so much that she lives in another country where she benefits from government healthcare) you’re not fooling anyone You disagreed with what they said so instead of engaging them in debate, you resorted to name calling as you always do.

    James doesn’t know what he’s talking about, and he’s a liar.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Liberty_Hound said:
    sarainitaly, is that your real picture?..If so, not bad, not bad at all. Great smile too!…And to top it off a conservative. At least from what I can tell. I don’t know what you do for a living but FNC could use a few more brunettes in front of the camera.

    Ok, peanut gallery, as inappropriate as my comments may seem in this setting they’re meant in good taste so please don’t follow up with foul mouth crap.

    Why, thank you kindly. *batting eyelashes* hehe

    I would love a gig on FOX! Then I could really make these mediaiters heads explode! haha

    I’m a socially more liberal, fiscally conservative, no longer Democrat voting, Independent.

  • writer

    Sara who loves America so much that she lives in another country where she benefits from government healthcare

    Sara, your last name is very long. Have you ever considered shortening it?

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    writer said:
    Sara, your last name is very long. Have you ever considered shortening it?

    hehehe
    yes:
    sara roolz.

  • Liberty_Hound

    sarainitaly said:
    Why, thank you kindly. *batting eyelashes* hehe

    I would love a gig on FOX! Then I could really make these mediaiters heads explode! haha

    I’m a socially more liberal, fiscally conservative, no longer Democrat voting, Independent.

    So, more of a main stream libertarian like myself, maybe I’m registered Independent myself. I would like to vote/register Libertarian but it usually amounts to wasting a vote so I stay Independent. I didn’t agree in whole any party’ s platform but the Libertarian party comes the closest to my views. People miss this about the TeaParty. They, for the most party, do not have a social agenda. They are fiscal conservatives that want a renewal of true constitutional principles. They are not bigots or do they care to be associated with bigots. They want all people to be free.

  • JamesA1102

    sarainitaly said:
    it’s 1:38am. Last time I checked, i was an adult and didn’t have a bed time, or need a babysitter.

    That’s still very late if you have to get up and go to work in the morning.

  • BadGenome

    writer said:
    Sara who loves America so much that she lives in another country where she benefits from government healthcare

    Sara, your last name is very long. Have you ever considered shortening it?

    It is. Sounds kind of Native American.

  • BadGenome

    JamesA1102 said:
    That’s still very late if you have to get up and go to work in the morning.

    Wow. Stalker alert!

  • JamesA1102

    sarainitaly said:
    Yes, I disagreed with what they said, because it was bigoted. How do you debate someone who makes statements like that? You don’t – you call them out on their bigoted hateful comments. What ever happened to *civility*?

    Sara (who loves America so much that she lives in another country where she benefits from government healthcare) is the last person to lecture anyone about civility.

    sarainitaly said:
    Do you EVER do anything but personally attack me? NO, you don’t. You never engage me, you never debate me, you make personal attacks and stupid a** comments about me living in Italy, and government healthcare, like it is any of your business and has NOTHING to do with the topics, EVER.

    How am I attacking you by pointing out that you live in Italy. It’s not like you’re trying to hide it. It’s in your screenname. Why is you pointing it out OK and me pointing it out an attack?

    sarainitaly said:
    Spare me your friggin hypocrisy and BS. Spare all of us. At least others on here actually contribute, it may be rubbish, but it is something. You contribute n o t h i n g.

    Calling you out on your BS is making a contribution.

  • JamesA1102

    sarainitaly said:
    what the HELLO were they doing?????????????????????????? Did you call THEM out?No, you didn’t. Do you follow them around and harass them? No, you don’t.You’re not fooling anyone, James.

    No you’re the one who is not fooling anyone.

  • JamesA1102

    sarainitaly said:
    Sara (who loves America so much that she lives in another country where she benefits from government healthcare)

    Sara (who loves America so much that she lives in another country where she benefits from government healthcare) is the last person to call someone a liar.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    JamesA1102 said:
    How am I attacking you by pointing out that you live in Italy. It’s not like you’re trying to hide it. It’s in your screenname. Why is you pointing it out OK and me pointing it out an attack?

    it is harassment, stupid and you called me a bigot, and a liar.
    and you are soooooooooooooooooo boring and unoriginal. and a liar.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    JamesA1102 said:
    That’s still very late if you have to get up and go to work in the morning.

    sucks to be you, i guess.

  • JamesA1102

    sarainitaly said:
    it is harassment, stupid and you called me a bigot, and a liar.and you are soooooooooooooooooo boring and unoriginal. and a liar.

    I never called you anything. You resorted to namecalling and called you out on it.

    sarainitaly said:
    sucks to be you, i guess.

    No it’s good to be me. I live in the greatest country in the world, America. Can you say the same?

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    JamesA1102 said:
    I never called you anything. You resorted to namecalling and called you out on it.

    No it’s good to be me. I live in the greatest country in the world, America. Can you say the same?

    grow up, James.

  • JamesA1102

    sarainitaly said:
    grow up, James.

    LOL!!!

  • Liberty_Hound

    I have looked through all of ‘JameA1102′ comments on this post and none, I repeat none make any attempt at making a political point. He simply harasses. This is a typical response for a person that does not know enough of a subject matter to make a coherent response. They have to resort to attacks with no substance.

    JamesA1102, you are not a help to your cause if you even have one.

  • JamesA1102

    Liberty_Hound said:
    I have looked through all of ‘JameA1102′ comments on this post and none, I repeat none make any attempt at making a political point. He simply harasses. This is a typical response for a person that does not know enough of a subject matter to make a coherent response. They have to resort to attacks with no substance. JamesA1102, you are not a help to your cause if you even have one.

    You’re either dishonest or not that thorough. I did make a political point on page 2. And I would contend calling out someone on their namecalling is also making a political point. For that I’ve have to put up with a bunch of cons like you trying to bully me into silence. So I no longer need to make a point because you and your right wing buddies are making it for me.

  • writer

    Bad Genome, I hadn’t considered that sara’s last name may be native American. Could she be related to the famous native American actor, Running I’m Playing a Native American on TV but I’m Actually an Italian?

  • Liberty_Hound

    JamesA1102 said:
    So I no longer need to make a point because you and your right wing buddies are making it for me.

    If you “no longer need to make a point” why are you still on this blog. Never mind..I know.. to harasses.

    We are not trying to silence any point you are trying to make you just seemingly don’t have a point to make.

  • JamesA1102

    Liberty_Hound said:
    If you “no longer need to make a point” why are you still on this blog. Never mind..I know.. to harasses. We are not trying to silence any point you are trying to make you just seemingly don’t have a point to make.

    Please that’s all you guys are trying to do. Bully those who disagree into silence. You guys just don’t like it that I refuse to be bullied.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    JamesA1102 said:
    You’re either dishonest or not that thorough. I did make a political point on page 2. And I would contend calling out someone on their namecalling is also making a political point. For that I’ve have to put up with a bunch of cons like you trying to bully me into silence. So I no longer need to make a point because you and your right wing buddies are making it for me.

    JamesA1102 said:
    BTW Anyone who doesn’t think this site doesn’t tilt to the right, just look at this article. First, the headline: “Democrat Sen. Joe Manchin”. Instead of saying ‘Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin’ which is the proper usage of the word, they follow the GOP policy of always using the word Democrat. Second, this isn’t a media story. It is a political one. Why is it even here? Third, no other major news site is covering this so prominently, except one: FOX.
    So what we have here is a purely political story pulled from the FOX website and using GOP-speak in the headline. You can go on claiming to be non-partisan Mediaite but you’re not fooling anyone anymore. Instead you’re proving what Keith Olbermann said last week that you’re ” another reactionary, right-leaning dog’s breakfast that ultimately serves merely as a kind of internet hairpiece to cover its founder’s vendettas and personal dislikes.”

    HAHAHHA! Nice *political point* James… *eyeroll*

    “And I would contend calling out someone on their namecalling is also making a political point. ”

    I ask AGAIN – did you “call out” the two people I called bigots, for the NAME CALLING BIGOTED comments? NO, you didn’t. So spare us all your delusions.

    You come in second only to RRk when it comes to bullying me, although even he will at times actually discuss a post. You seem to exist here just to bully and obsess over me.

    No one is trying to bully you into silence, James. They are trying to get you to knock it the f*ck off, and contribute something substantive to the board, and to quit dumping your stupid irrelevant comments that have nothing to do with the threads, but serve only to BULLY me.

  • JamesA1102

    sarainitaly said:
    HAHAHHA! Nice *political point* James… *eyeroll* “And I would contend calling out someone on their namecalling is also making a political point. ” I ask AGAIN – did you “call out” the two people I called bigots, for the NAME CALLING BIGOTED comments? NO, you didn’t. So spare us all your delusions. You come in second only to RRk when it comes to bullying me, although even he will at times actually discuss a post. You seem to exist here just to bully and obsess over me. No one is trying to bully you into silence, James. They are trying to get you to knock it the f*ck off, and contribute something substantive to the board, and to quit dumping your stupid irrelevant comments that have nothing to do with the threads, but serve only to BULLY me.

    Spare me the false outrage. Occassionally pointing out your BS and hypocrisy is not bullying, it’s doing a service. The fact that you and your ditto heads become so outraged by it shows that I’m hitting a nerve.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    sarainitaly said:
    I ask AGAIN – did you “call out” the two people I called bigots, for the NAME CALLING BIGOTED comments? NO, you didn’t.

    outrage? haha
    you’re just a bully. a sad, weak, pitiful, little bully.
    an annoying little bug bully.

  • JamesA1102

    sarainitaly said:
    outrage? hahayou’re just a bully. a sad, weak, pitiful, little bully.an annoying little bug bully.

    If I’m so sad weak and pitiful, why do you get so upset when I call out your BS?

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    JamesA1102 said:
    If I’m so sad weak and pitiful, why do you get so upset when I call out your BS?

    i am tired of it, because you don’t “call me out” on anything. you just repeat the same old irrelevant stupid crap, throwing in personal stuff about my living in Italy, and never address the things I say. you just continue your stupid, boring, tired lame, bullying tactics. you accuse me of racism, lying, bigotry, whatever, with NO support to back it up, you just insensately repeat stupid drivel. like i said, an annoying bug.

    and you are SO annoying because you completely derail the threads with your stupid comments, and everyone jumps in to ask why you are such an idiot, and WTH your comments have to do with the thread. Which is NOTHING.

    you are weak and pitiful, and you prove it every time you leave a stupid comment.

  • JamesA1102

    sarainitaly said:
    i am tired of it, because you don’t “call me out” on anything. you just repeat the same old irrelevant stupid crap, throwing in personal stuff about my living in Italy, and never address the things I say. you just continue your stupid, boring, tired lame, bullying tactics. you accuse me of racism, lying, bigotry, whatever, with NO support to back it up, you just insensately repeat stupid drivel. like i said, an annoying bug. and you are SO annoying because you completely derail the threads with your stupid comments, and everyone jumps in to ask why you are such an idiot, and WTH your comments have to do with the thread. Which is NOTHING. you are weak and pitiful, and you prove it every time you leave a stupid comment.

    If I’m weak and pitiful why do you and all your buddies get so upset whenever I call you on your BS? Why don’t you ignore me if my comments are so stupid?

    And I’m not the one who is derailing threads, it is you and your buddies who go on the attack whenever I call you out on YOUR namecalling. IAnd why is your saying that you live in Italy OK and my saying it is some great insult to you? Sounds like a double standard to me.

    One thing I do know is that your continued responses only prove that I must be hiting a nerve and that you don’t like the truth about you exposed.

  • murphy0071

    Joe Machen is pure dog feces and should start eating his tongue for it hath offended against the citizens.

  • X-3

    The young senator had BETTER be careful: Michelle 0 is gonna slap him into the middle of next week if he doesn’t hush up that kind of talk.

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