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		<title>By: ImNotBlue</title>
		<link>http://www.mediaite.com/online/echos-of-911-gov-had-plenty-of-warning-about-christmas-day-attack/#comment-15419</link>
		<dc:creator>ImNotBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 05:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to say, Congrats to Glynnis!  She found the &quot;Columnists&quot; tab, so now she can post her OPINIONS of hate for all things Palin, Beck, -not left-wing, in the proper place!

Nice job!  Keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to say, Congrats to Glynnis!  She found the &#8220;Columnists&#8221; tab, so now she can post her OPINIONS of hate for all things Palin, Beck, -not left-wing, in the proper place!</p>
<p>Nice job!  Keep it up!</p>
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		<title>By: RazorsEdge</title>
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		<dc:creator>RazorsEdge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technically not 8 years to perfect &#039;the system&#039;. Only 6 years, if you&#039;re meaning DHS as &#039;the system&#039;. DHS voted in 11/2002 and engaged early 2003.

Or, 7 years and counting down if you&#039;re not meaning DHS as &#039;the system&#039;, as it appears at least the 1st year of a Presidents 1st term does not start the clock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically not 8 years to perfect &#8216;the system&#8217;. Only 6 years, if you&#8217;re meaning DHS as &#8216;the system&#8217;. DHS voted in 11/2002 and engaged early 2003.</p>
<p>Or, 7 years and counting down if you&#8217;re not meaning DHS as &#8216;the system&#8217;, as it appears at least the 1st year of a Presidents 1st term does not start the clock.</p>
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		<title>By: Nachi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BushDrunk had 8 wonderful years to perfect &quot;the system.&quot;  Yup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BushDrunk had 8 wonderful years to perfect &#8220;the system.&#8221;  Yup.</p>
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		<title>By: Trickletown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trickletown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrongly or rightly, JNap should only be allowed to address the issue if she is wearing a pair of Arabic style tightie-whities over her head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrongly or rightly, JNap should only be allowed to address the issue if she is wearing a pair of Arabic style tightie-whities over her head.</p>
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		<title>By: RazorsEdge</title>
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		<dc:creator>RazorsEdge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll correct my 7th grade spelling mistakes:  you&#039;re, voracity, strengthen. 

One other aspect of Napolitan&#039;s comment. By not addressing initially anything on the security systems before the incident was leaving it open to the public (Al Qaeda too) that maybe underwear bombing methods could work. Maybe not. But there was room for hope for bad guys and despair for good guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll correct my 7th grade spelling mistakes:  you&#8217;re, voracity, strengthen. </p>
<p>One other aspect of Napolitan&#8217;s comment. By not addressing initially anything on the security systems before the incident was leaving it open to the public (Al Qaeda too) that maybe underwear bombing methods could work. Maybe not. But there was room for hope for bad guys and despair for good guys.</p>
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		<title>By: RazorsEdge</title>
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		<dc:creator>RazorsEdge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@roxsteady

I get your point about &#039;literally&#039; what Napolitano stated. Here&#039;s part of my issue with Napolitano&#039;s response. First off, she came off a bit tone deaf on the issue. Lot&#039;s of people waiting to fly over the holidays were tuning in about what&#039;s going on. As it turns out, at best she did not help Pres Obama out, at all with her comments.

Another point is she seemed to approach it from a politician&#039;s angle and not from being the chief of Homeland security. She either wanted to let the public know, if your on a plane and a bomb attack is attempted, then that&#039;s how you passengers should respond. She also played a little CYA and also informing the public that the different agencies such as TSA or other govt entities reacted properly to what went down. Again, tone deaf, even if it were true! 

At best she left room for people to interpret she was playing politics, defending the govt&#039;s reaction, or anticipating need for CYA. Her job is more aligned with want went down Before Abdulmutallab boarded the plane. That&#039;s what the public or at least me was listening for. 

I think if she had come out more focused, you know, from more of Pres Obama&#039;s 2nd address to the public like something went down and that the govt will need to find out if there was anything Homeland security could do to strenghten the security, then I would have felt more comfortable that Napolitano was focused on securing Americans (and non-Americans). You know the mindset and verosity of our homeland security secretary.

What do you think? Is there room with you that Napolitano could have done better with her approach?

I&#039;ll submit to you that I did graduate 6th grade. You can take my word on that (or not).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@roxsteady</p>
<p>I get your point about &#8216;literally&#8217; what Napolitano stated. Here&#8217;s part of my issue with Napolitano&#8217;s response. First off, she came off a bit tone deaf on the issue. Lot&#8217;s of people waiting to fly over the holidays were tuning in about what&#8217;s going on. As it turns out, at best she did not help Pres Obama out, at all with her comments.</p>
<p>Another point is she seemed to approach it from a politician&#8217;s angle and not from being the chief of Homeland security. She either wanted to let the public know, if your on a plane and a bomb attack is attempted, then that&#8217;s how you passengers should respond. She also played a little CYA and also informing the public that the different agencies such as TSA or other govt entities reacted properly to what went down. Again, tone deaf, even if it were true! </p>
<p>At best she left room for people to interpret she was playing politics, defending the govt&#8217;s reaction, or anticipating need for CYA. Her job is more aligned with want went down Before Abdulmutallab boarded the plane. That&#8217;s what the public or at least me was listening for. </p>
<p>I think if she had come out more focused, you know, from more of Pres Obama&#8217;s 2nd address to the public like something went down and that the govt will need to find out if there was anything Homeland security could do to strenghten the security, then I would have felt more comfortable that Napolitano was focused on securing Americans (and non-Americans). You know the mindset and verosity of our homeland security secretary.</p>
<p>What do you think? Is there room with you that Napolitano could have done better with her approach?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll submit to you that I did graduate 6th grade. You can take my word on that (or not).</p>
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		<title>By: roxsteady</title>
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		<dc:creator>roxsteady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I&#039;m pasting Napolitano&#039;s comments from an article right here on this site by Colby Hall.

Napolitano: One thing I’d like to point out is that the system worked. everybody played an important role here. the passengers and crew of the flight took appropriate action. within literally an hour to 90 minutes of the incident occurring, all the flights in the air had been notified to take some special measures in light of what had occurred on the northwest airlines flight. we instituted new measures on the ground and at screening areas both here in the united states and in europe where this flight originated. So the whole process of making sure we respond properly, correctly and effectively went very smoothly.

Those of you who made it out of the 6th grade should be able to comprehend that statement. Or you could just watch fox news. Of course they&#039;re the same network who likely didn&#039;t inform their viewers that 2 of the people who helped this idiot with this bombing plot were released by the Bush administration.  This is why you&#039;ll continue to loose arguments with those who are in fact, informed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I&#8217;m pasting Napolitano&#8217;s comments from an article right here on this site by Colby Hall.</p>
<p>Napolitano: One thing I’d like to point out is that the system worked. everybody played an important role here. the passengers and crew of the flight took appropriate action. within literally an hour to 90 minutes of the incident occurring, all the flights in the air had been notified to take some special measures in light of what had occurred on the northwest airlines flight. we instituted new measures on the ground and at screening areas both here in the united states and in europe where this flight originated. So the whole process of making sure we respond properly, correctly and effectively went very smoothly.</p>
<p>Those of you who made it out of the 6th grade should be able to comprehend that statement. Or you could just watch fox news. Of course they&#8217;re the same network who likely didn&#8217;t inform their viewers that 2 of the people who helped this idiot with this bombing plot were released by the Bush administration.  This is why you&#8217;ll continue to loose arguments with those who are in fact, informed!</p>
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		<title>By: roxsteady</title>
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		<dc:creator>roxsteady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and enough with the Napolitano distortions. We all heard what she said. She was speakaing about procedures that followed the incident.  Only idiots would ignore what she actually said. Idiots and Republicans that is.  Sorry but, as someone who was walking through the World Trade Center at 8:47am I&#039;ll never forget that they were in charge and they blew it! NEVER! The rest of you can keep voting for these deadbeats but, don&#039;t expect the majority to come with you.  That ship sailed in November of 2008!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and enough with the Napolitano distortions. We all heard what she said. She was speakaing about procedures that followed the incident.  Only idiots would ignore what she actually said. Idiots and Republicans that is.  Sorry but, as someone who was walking through the World Trade Center at 8:47am I&#8217;ll never forget that they were in charge and they blew it! NEVER! The rest of you can keep voting for these deadbeats but, don&#8217;t expect the majority to come with you.  That ship sailed in November of 2008!</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris - you make a case...I guess.  Anyway, this has nothing to do with Obama.  We need to point the finger directly at Bill Clinton because as I&#039;m sure you know, if the Lewinsky thing had not occurred...well, none of this would have ever happened.  So my question is, where was Bill Clinton when this terrorist decided to set himself on fire?  Hmmmmmm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris &#8211; you make a case&#8230;I guess.  Anyway, this has nothing to do with Obama.  We need to point the finger directly at Bill Clinton because as I&#8217;m sure you know, if the Lewinsky thing had not occurred&#8230;well, none of this would have ever happened.  So my question is, where was Bill Clinton when this terrorist decided to set himself on fire?  Hmmmmmm?</p>
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		<title>By: roxsteady</title>
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		<dc:creator>roxsteady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are the dead bodies to even make this comparison? Sorry but, no matter how much some may want to associate the 2, it doesn&#039;t fly. And what about the shoe bomber? Were comparisons made to that event? While idiots like Hoekstra and Peter King try to compare the security of today&#039;s with their own, there is no comparison. Bush took 6 days to make a comment in passing on the shoe bomber. Obama still beat him. As for anonymous sources, I too don&#039;t put stock in anyone who isn&#039;t willing to identify themselves. The people responsible didn&#039;t do their jobs and that&#039;s the bottom line. That and the fact that there were no deaths is the reason why lefty blogs are filled with information on just what Obama did and what Bush did. If you want the facts you&#039;ll have to tune out fox and get the facts.  Other wise you run the risk of applying a double standard. The bomber does have something in common with Bush and Republicans in general. They all FAILED!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are the dead bodies to even make this comparison? Sorry but, no matter how much some may want to associate the 2, it doesn&#8217;t fly. And what about the shoe bomber? Were comparisons made to that event? While idiots like Hoekstra and Peter King try to compare the security of today&#8217;s with their own, there is no comparison. Bush took 6 days to make a comment in passing on the shoe bomber. Obama still beat him. As for anonymous sources, I too don&#8217;t put stock in anyone who isn&#8217;t willing to identify themselves. The people responsible didn&#8217;t do their jobs and that&#8217;s the bottom line. That and the fact that there were no deaths is the reason why lefty blogs are filled with information on just what Obama did and what Bush did. If you want the facts you&#8217;ll have to tune out fox and get the facts.  Other wise you run the risk of applying a double standard. The bomber does have something in common with Bush and Republicans in general. They all FAILED!</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisNH</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisNH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the very least, Mrs. Butterworth over at Homeland Security can&#039;t be counted on to do ANYTHING positive with respect to our security. Obama wanted to stock his Cabinet with Liberals, so he just tossed his favorite ones into various positions and then went on his merry way trying to redistribute the wealth of our country and destroy capitalism...much more meaningful endeavors than trying to keep our nation safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the very least, Mrs. Butterworth over at Homeland Security can&#8217;t be counted on to do ANYTHING positive with respect to our security. Obama wanted to stock his Cabinet with Liberals, so he just tossed his favorite ones into various positions and then went on his merry way trying to redistribute the wealth of our country and destroy capitalism&#8230;much more meaningful endeavors than trying to keep our nation safe.</p>
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		<title>By: TfT</title>
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		<dc:creator>TfT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The PDB that Bush got was historical information; the information that DOS and DNI had was current.  Bush set up two EOs (13311 and 13388) on information sharing (he tore down the Gorelick wall) and established the NTIC.  Reid was arrested on 22 December 2001 for the shoe bombing attempt.  

From December 2001 to December 24th 2009 there wasn&#039;t a similar situation (that I&#039;m aware of, please correct me if I&#039;m wrong).  

The question has to be asked, what policies did Obama change when he came into office regarding information sharing?  Stratosphere is reporting that an anonymous DOS employee says &quot;that despite statements from the Obama Administration, such information was flagged and given higher priority during the Bush Administration, but that since the changeover “we are encouraged to not create the appearance that we are profiling or targeting Muslims...&quot;  

Take it for what its worth, since it&#039;s anonymous (and I don&#039;t put much faith in anony statements), but will more folks start doing public CYAs now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PDB that Bush got was historical information; the information that DOS and DNI had was current.  Bush set up two EOs (13311 and 13388) on information sharing (he tore down the Gorelick wall) and established the NTIC.  Reid was arrested on 22 December 2001 for the shoe bombing attempt.  </p>
<p>From December 2001 to December 24th 2009 there wasn&#8217;t a similar situation (that I&#8217;m aware of, please correct me if I&#8217;m wrong).  </p>
<p>The question has to be asked, what policies did Obama change when he came into office regarding information sharing?  Stratosphere is reporting that an anonymous DOS employee says &#8220;that despite statements from the Obama Administration, such information was flagged and given higher priority during the Bush Administration, but that since the changeover “we are encouraged to not create the appearance that we are profiling or targeting Muslims&#8230;&#8221;  </p>
<p>Take it for what its worth, since it&#8217;s anonymous (and I don&#8217;t put much faith in anony statements), but will more folks start doing public CYAs now?</p>
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		<title>By: timzank</title>
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		<dc:creator>timzank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The good news is, We&#039;re all convinced they&#039;ll do a lot better job with healthcare.</description>
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		<title>By: Keeva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another story completely omitting any possible error by Dutch officials.</description>
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