STUPID LAMESTREAM MEDIA LIBERAL RAG!!!!

Jackie_Treehorn said:
FactCheck describes itself as a “nonpartisan, nonprofit ‘consumer advocate’ for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics,” meaning that there shouldn’t be any political motivation behind their criticism—as long as that description is accurate. If the organization isn’t being driven by partisanship, then their characterization of the pledge as “more caricature than portrait” that simply leaves out “any facts that might brighten it” sounds pretty damning to us.

You beat them to it Jackie

Jackie_Treehorn said:
STUPID LAMESTREAM MEDIA LIBERAL RAG!!!!

You beat them to it Jackie

Don’t worry, I’m sure the delusional Right supporters will be here soon enough to claim FactCheck.org is a partisan hack site despite some of them having said it was a decent source in comments on other articles last week.

This is BS – It says that “jobless claims continue to soar,” when in fact they are down eight percent from their worst levels.
The reason they are DOWN is due to those no longer eligible and no longer counted by the labor dept.
MSM is scared or on the payroll speaking of, whatever happened to the Inspector General they fired illegally because he discovered a $500,000 hand out to an NBA player of either campaign funds or revenue. 30 day notice is required as with the reason “WHY” US Code Law is being ignored by MSM.
I’ll stick to where the facts are and have set parental controls for all msm media outlets and discarded the password.

“FactCheck describes itself as a “nonpartisan, nonprofit”

All leftist partisan groups describe themselves that way. What else is new?

Just because FactCheck.org describes itself as “… a “nonpartisan, nonprofit ‘consumer advocate for voters” does not make it so. The League of Women Voters also describes itself as nonpartisan, but it’s pretty far to the left so that makes it liberal and Democratic.

I suppose I could do a complete fact-checking of FactCheck.org, but instead I will simply say this: the Pledge to America is a general outline of the Republican philosophy and agenda. It was intentionally kept as non-specific as possible.

But, government jobs overall have declined because the states, counties, and municipalities have been laying off workers faster than the federal government hires them. New claims for unemployment are still nearly 500k per week, which is still horrible even if much lower than in the peak months of early 2009. The IRS will need to add tens of thousands of agents, if the Obama agenda of taxing everything animate and inanimate is to be achieved. FactCheck chose to count small businesses by revenue instead of by individual businesses. And there have been several stimulus bills since early 2008, not all of them labeled as such but still intended for the same purpose, and with a total cost of about $1 trillion not counting interest payments on the money borrowed from the Arabs and Chinese.

Everyone knows by now that facts have liberal bias.
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/09/bias-vs-truthiness-analyzing-media.html

It seems like nit-picking to me to defend the fact that $814 billion is not quite $1 trillion. Couple stimulus spending with other hiked spending and you’ve got yourself over $1 trillion. But even so, nearly a trillion is nearly as bad as a trillion. To dispute the point is to miss the point.

Also there were 486,000 new jobless claims last month (Aug). Again, it misses the point to argue that jobless claims were higher in the recent past. 486,000 is really bad, even if it is a misnomer to call that a “soaring” unemployment rate.

Perhaps the GOP document should have read “Unemployment persists at an unacceptably high rate” and “Despite spending nearly $1trillion, the stimulus failed to repair the economy” or “Despite running on the explicit promise that he could reverse the slide, the US economy is worse now than when Obama took office 20 months ago.” I think those are defensible claims.

You rightwingers have an answer for everything. If you would spend a little time at the Fact Check site instead of yelling foul you would find the site is truely bi- partisan. There are many facts at the site correcting the left as well. Unfortunately most people are going to believe what they want to believe regardless of the facts, but I for one want to get to the truth whether truth supports my cause or not. I personally use many different sites to before I settle on an opinion. Try it some time, its worth the extra effort.

What sad is most voters are to damm lazy to put in the extra effort to make an informed decision.

Oh dear…the reptilian party and those pesky facts again…jeesh!

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION is not a new problem…Natives Americans use to call it WHITE PEOPLE.

Then Dona Barone, why are you still here?

I love it when things are fact checked. There is too much myth out there masquerading as facts. It is not true that if one believes something strongly, it becomes true.

Jackie_Treehorn said:
STUPID LAMESTREAM MEDIA LIBERAL RAG!!!!

What, the pledge or the fact check?

Betweenntwoeevils

Your right for some people if they believe it to be the truth in their own mind it may becomes the truth. However I can call a hamburger a steak and wish it so, but it is still a hamburger.

I want to take this opportunity on the publication of the “Pledge to America” to thank and honor the Teapublican Party for their service to the country and the world. As we watch the polls begin to turn against these noble reactionaries I would like to point out how much these people are helping Americans see much more clearly how the right is helping and continues to help this country. Especially their brilliant ideas to reduce the deficit and budget, help create jobs, get more money to the top 1% and help work out peaceful solutions in the Middle East and elsewhere. We also appreciate their ideas for improving health care and helping make social security more secure. Like Newt Gingrich’s brilliant “Contract for America”, we look forward to the new crop of Teapublican leaders who will make this country a world leader once again. Thank you Sarah Palin, Sharron Angle, Michelle Bachmann, Rand Paul and your corporate/media backers, Rupert Murdoch, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and, of course, the Koch Brothers. You will go down in the history books as the heros who finally freed us, once and for all, from the yoke of your great ignorance, selfishness, wamongering and phony patriotism .

btw, What time does the “HATE WHITEY” rally thrown by the naacp, la raza, and the other left-wing RACE-BASED HATE-GROUPS begin this weekend?

ganymede said:
I want to take this opportunity on the publication of the “Pledge to America” to thank and honor the Teapublican Party for their service to the country and the world. As we watch the polls begin to turn against these noble reactionaries I would like to point out how much these people are helping Americans see much more clearly how the right is helping and continues to help this country. Especially their brilliant ideas to reduce the deficit and budget, help create jobs, get more money to the top 1% and help work out peaceful solutions in the Middle East and elsewhere. We also appreciate their ideas for improving health care and helping make social security more secure. Like Newt Gingrich’s brilliant “Contract for America”, we look forward to the new crop of Teapublican leaders who will make this country a world leader once again. Thank you Sarah Palin, Sharron Angle, Michelle Bachmann, Rand Paul and your corporate/media backers, Rupert Murdoch, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and, of course, the Koch Brothers. You will go down in the history books as the heros who finally freed us, once and for all, from the yoke of your great ignorance, selfishness, wamongering and phony patriotism .

Check back the day after the election. Keep dreaming

Azarkhan said:
“FactCheck describes itself as a “nonpartisan, nonprofit”

All leftist partisan groups describe themselves that way. What else is new?

Right wingers who claim to be independents? Oh, no..that’s not new either.

These Fact checks are telling me the OX is not quite as DEAD, as previously stated, but DEAD non the less!!

For those of you who believe that any fact-checking organization that puts the lie to Republican claims is biased to the left, FactCheck.org is a part of the Annenberg Public Policy Center, founded by the late Walter Annenberg and his widow, Leonore. Walter Annenberg was a close friend of Ronald Reagan, who appointed him Ambassador to Belgium, and a staunch conservative. Leonore Annenberg, who is still involved in the Annenberg Public Policy Center, is a heavy donor to the Republican Party and supported John McCain for the presidency.

Just because someone places truth above partisanship doesn’t make them a liberal tool.

Azarkhan said:
“FactCheck describes itself as a “nonpartisan, nonprofit”

All leftist partisan groups describe themselves that way. What else is new?

It seems like any group that finds any fault at all with what conservatives are doing and saying must just be leftist smear machines.

ganymede said:
I want to take this opportunity on the publication of the “Pledge to America” to thank and honor the Teapublican Party for their service to the country and the world. As we watch the polls begin to turn against these noble reactionaries I would like to point out how much these people are helping Americans see much more clearly how the right is helping and continues to help this country. Especially their brilliant ideas to reduce the deficit and budget, help create jobs, get more money to the top 1% and help work out peaceful solutions in the Middle East and elsewhere. We also appreciate their ideas for improving health care and helping make social security more secure. Like Newt Gingrich’s brilliant “Contract for America”, we look forward to the new crop of Teapublican leaders who will make this country a world leader once again. Thank you Sarah Palin, Sharron Angle, Michelle Bachmann, Rand Paul and your corporate/media backers, Rupert Murdoch, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and, of course, the Koch Brothers. You will go down in the history books as the heros who finally freed us, once and for all, from the yoke of your great ignorance, selfishness, wamongering and phony patriotism .

Shout out to Richard Mellon Scaife… HOLLA!

ganymede said:
You will go down in the history books as the heros who finally freed us, once and for all, from the yoke of ignorant leftists like the Democratic Party and President Obama.

Fixed that for you.

I CALLED IT!!!!!!!! When people brought up politifact, they said it was biased and pointed to factcheck. Now factcheck is biased. The idiocy never ceases to astound. Keep it coming, right-wingers!

J Baustian says:
September 27, 2010 at 1:22 pm
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Just because FactCheck.org describes itself as “… a “nonpartisan, nonprofit ‘consumer advocate for voters” does not make it so. The League of Women Voters also describes itself as nonpartisan, but it’s pretty far to the left so that makes it liberal and Democratic.

I suppose I could do a complete fact-checking of FactCheck.org, but instead I will simply say this: the Pledge to America is a general outline of the Republican philosophy and agenda. It was intentionally kept as non-specific as possible.

A non-specific pledge? Doesn’t that seem more like an idea or a work in progress. You expect people to vote for a non-specific pledge? Sounds like the same way the politicians handle our money!

This country is completely run on idiocy. No wonder the thieving lawyers run for office, they couldn’t hold a job in the private sector. Time to warehouse these thieving fools. The thieves go to jail (yeah right) and the rest are put out to pasture, what a bunch of inept fools!

Conservatives can’t deal with the truth.

Robert White…I suggest you research your claims in a bi-partisan methodology, for you know not what you speak of!

GlennBeckReview says:
September 27, 2010 at 1:26 pm (Quote)
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Everyone knows by now that facts have liberal bias.
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/09/bias-vs-truthiness-analyzing-media.html

And you propose this garbage is not partisan on nature? Are you that stupid or blind not realizing both parties are thieves and liars?

First, if you really look into things, e.g. a query below, you will find that factcheck makes a LOT of blunders. So do Snopes and Wikipedia. You’ll have to reckon as to why on your own.

http://search.earthlink.net/search?q=errors+made+by+factcheck&channel=webmail

Here are the website’s qualms with the GOP’s manifesto, all of which are explored more fully here:

- It declares that “the only parts of the economy expanding are government and our national debt.” Not true. So far this year government employment has declined slightly, while private sector employment has increased by 763,000 jobs.

The unemployment figures since -0bama took office have ranged roughly double of those during the previous decades. This is unacceptable; employers (those evil capitalists) are reluctant to hire because they don’t know what kind of rabbit the -0bama regime is going to pull out of its hat next. The business climate is fraught with too many variables and unknowns…and unknoables, for that matter.

- It says that “jobless claims continue to soar,” when in fact they are down eight percent from their worst levels.

Another post remarked on this but for the sake of context and continuity, there are many people who are no longer searching–many of those are working as day laborers, and many of the day laborers are criminal aliens who are exacerbating the economic woes we now have because they’re sucking up the “entitlements” that they’re not entitled to.

- It repeats a bogus assertion that the Internal Revenue Service may need to expand by 16,500 positions, an inflated estimate based on false assumptions and guesswork.

As one who was on the “inside” of Federal government for a while, I can guarantee you that when the government estimates the cost of some program or budget, you’ll be more on target when the actual costs are calculated if you DOUBLE those estimates. We do know that Federal government is growing at a more rapid pace than at any time in this country’s history, and it stands to reason that the IRS is growing just as rapidly. Fortunately, the various species of the “Fair Tax” is gaining enormous steam amongst voters and, if passed, would at least downsize the Federal government by a 100,000 bureaucrats.

- It claims the stimulus bill is costing $1 trillion, considerably more than the $814 billion, 10-year price tag currently estimated by nonpartisan congressional budget experts.

Again, if we DOUBLE the estimated cost of a Federal program, we shall have a more accurate estimate as to actual costs, BUT isn’t $.8 Trillion pretty close to $1 Trillion, AND didn’t the CBO tell us that the administrative costs would end up making this spending spree more costly than the initial price tag?

- It says Obama’s tax proposals would raise taxes on “roughly half the small business income in America,” an exaggeration. Much of the income the GOP is counting actually comes from big businesses making over $50 million a year.

I know a poor unfortunate slob who owns a realestate title business; he is NOT wealthy but he’s doing just OK. His financial advisor/accountant/tax preparer gave him a report the other day that told him he’d be better off closing his business down now because if taxes went up and he was also forced to provide healthcare insurance to his 6 (formerly 20) employees, he would have to reduce he and his wife’s salaries to $0 AND take out a loan.

Bottom line: Whether you side with the Republicans, Democrats, or Libertarians, the kind of crap pulled by our Federal government is a surefire formula for bankruptcy–which is what many progressives wanted in the first place.