For Al to be be against honor, he’d have to know what it was.

Speaking of honor, this is shaping up to be one of the little O’Hannity/O’North support the troop scams. O’Beckerhead is only going to distribute net receipts, of which there will be little. This is a dishonorable gathering, at best.

Keep the pot boiling and turn up the heat,
If there be murder, assault or riot ,
What of it, that’s simply our fans red meat ,
Of course, it’s not news, but they’ll still buy it.

Purina, Il Douchey, O’Kilmead and Beckerhead. That’s some awful television programming. Probably the most inane programming since “My Mother the Car”.

Keep the pot boiling and turn up the heat,
If there be murder, assault or riot ,
What of it, that’s simply our fans red meat ,
Of course, it’s not news, but they’ll still buy it.

Al stirring up hatred did end up getting people killed in the Tawana Brawley and Freddie’s Fashion Mart incidents, but Al did it with honor.

You mean Race-Baiting Tawana Sharpton?
Freddie’s in Harlem (where riots killed!) Tawana Sharpton?
Crown Heights (where riots killed!) Tawana Sharpton?

Tawana Sharpton is a Race-Baiting Carnival Barker, who lives in a Lilly-White ‘hood’, and never shows up for his “people” unless there’s a white face involved, and Race-Baiting Publicity to be Had!

…as are his supporters!!!!

NORBIT said:
You mean Race-Baiting Tawana Sharpton?Freddie’s in Harlem (where riots killed!) Tawana Sharpton?Crown Heights (where riots killed!) Tawana Sharpton? Tawana Sharpton is a Race-Baiting Carnival Barker, who lives in a Lilly-White ‘hood’, and never shows up for his “people” unless there’s a white face involved, and Race-Baiting Publicity to be Had! …as are his supporters!!!!

What a bitter person you are? Were you chased through your school’s hallways and beaten up every day by African-Americans as Righter was?

Keep the pot boiling and turn up the heat,
If there be murder, assault or riot ,
What of it, that’s simply our fans red meat ,
Of course, it’s not news, but they’ll still buy it.

The Real Royal King said:
Keep the pot boiling and turn up the heat,
If there be murder, assault or riot ,
What of it, that’s simply our fans red meat ,
Of course, it’s not news, but they’ll still buy it.

Oh, you’re doing an Ode to Sharpton today, TPPP?

The Real Royal King said:
Speaking of honor, this is shaping up to be one of the little O’Hannity/O’North support the troop scams. O’Beckerhead is only going to distribute net receipts, of which there will be little. This is a dishonorable gathering, at best. Keep the pot boiling and turn up the heat,If there be murder, assault or riot ,What of it, that’s simply our fans red meat ,Of course, it’s not news, but they’ll still buy it.

Really, is that a poison opinion or can you back it up?
Dishonorable at best? Your are truly a sad person.

It is laughable that Glenn Beck is taken seriously. Worse, that he is even mentioned in the same breath as MLK. If you compare their accomplishments, it’s a joke (see what I mean here http://bit.ly/bs5DPm)

Al Sharpton is a “Race Baiting” Poverty Pimp! What else is new!
Pretends he is intelligent ! Has a very hard time pulling THAT off.
But always look for him to show up if he can get some face time.

FACE?????

King, just how far does your ‘black people can do no wrong’ obsession go? When black serial killer Alton Coleman was convicted for stomping a little black girl to death, would it be your contention that he must have been a good guy because he was black? Man, you are one twisted individual.

writer said:
King, just how far does your ‘black people can do no wrong’ obsession go? When black serial killer Alton Coleman was convicted for stomping a little black girl to death, would it be your contention that he must have been a good guy because he was black? Man, you are one twisted individual.

Unlike you, I am a firm believer in the rule of law. Coleman was convicted. He must pay the consequences.

Keep the pot boiling and turn up the heat,
If there be murder, assault or riot ,
What of it, that’s simply our fans red meat ,
Of course, it’s not news, but they’ll still buy it.

Earl Gray said:
It is laughable that Glenn Beck is taken seriously. Worse, that he is even mentioned in the same breath as MLK. If you compare their accomplishments, it’s a joke (see what I mean here http://bit.ly/bs5DPm)

I find it laughable, as well, but I also find it highly offensive. It’s like those deplorable ads which use (misuse, abuse) images of deceased celebrities. Crass. Dishonest.

Keep the pot boiling and turn up the heat,
If there be murder, assault or riot ,
What of it, that’s simply our fans red meat ,
Of course, it’s not news, but they’ll still buy it.

And just what have I said that implies I’m not for the rule of law, King? Could you elaborate? You were the one defending Sharpton when his hate stirring ended up getting people killed.

Beck: A true American hero and a voice of reason in an unreasonable world.

And look at the Dems taking money from the 9/11 responders!

notsofast said:
Beck: A true American hero and a voice of reason in an unreasonable world.

And look at the Dems taking money from the 9/11 responders!

Do they make American flags large enough to sleep under? How many are on the back of your vehicle?

paulmdoro said:
Do they make American flags large enough to sleep under? How many are on the back of your vehicle?

I’m proud of this country unlike lib trash such as yourself!

Right cause only people who wrap themselves in the flag and put stickers of it on their car love America. But keep up the puerile name-calling. It’s humorous.

Is that loon David Barton going to be at Beck’s event?

paulmdoro said:
paulmdoro says:
August 26, 2010 at 11:14 am paulmdoro(Quote)

Ahh, did I hurt the poor socialist trash?

Hubba, hubba, you lib POS!

notsofast said:
Ahh, did I hurt the poor socialist trash?

Hubba, hubba, you lib POS!

POS? Trash? What else have you picked up while cruising middle-school playgrounds? Instead of posting here you should be reading a dictionary to expand that vocabulary. I’m sure your mom would be happy to help you.

King? King? Was it something I said?

Sharpton takes issue with Beck holding a rally about honor, at a certain location, because a speech was given there, 47 years ago.

The Ground Zero mosque supporters don’t take issue with the location of erecting a Muslim Cultural Center and mosque at ground zero where 3000 people were murdered by Muslim extremists.

Weird. Seems the Left feels that only they can determine the locations of things, and only they have the right to sensitivities.

(Is it true that Muslims erect mosques on conquered land?)

I believe MLK’s namesake puts it perfectly. It’s the hateful rhetoric that Beck spews which makes people object to this. It goes against the beliefs of the man who held his own event here on this day, you’re not restoring honor, you’re destroying it. Dr. King would endorse his right, but not his words, their beliefs are worlds apart. As a matter of fact, Glenn would characterize King as one of those evil socialists destroying America.

Al Sharpton is not “the left.” It’s not rocket science people. He doesn’t represent “the left” any more than Pat Robertson represents “the right.” He’s one person.

I love how Sharpton keeps the bigots on their toes,stupidity of this nature will not be allowed to proceed in this nation unopposed,sorry! Of course he doesn’t come close to the beauty of the NAACP.
Does anybody remember the hissyfit the teatwits threw after the iconic Civil Rights organization,NAACP,fully condemned them??? ohhh it was beautiful,made the twits dance like wildfire! haha. btw all you beckers don’t forget to take the blue line north,watch out for the ‘darkies’.Don’t bother visiting the WH this year though,[psssss] i hear there’s a ‘darkie’ living there now.Be careful guys…. Muahaha!

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
As a matter of fact, Glenn would characterize King as one of those evil socialists destroying America.

Kind of like how Hoover’s FBI thought he was a Communist in the ’60s?

writer said:
And just what have I said that implies I’m not for the rule of law, King? Could you elaborate? You were the one defending Sharpton when his hate stirring ended up getting people killed.

Actually, I never said that. You’re lying. Again.

Keep the pot boiling and turn up the heat,
If there be murder, assault or riot ,
What of it, that’s simply our fans red meat ,
Of course, it’s not news, but they’ll still buy it.

sarainitaly said:
Sharpton takes issue with Beck holding a rally about honor, at a certain location, because a speech was given there, 47 years ago. The Ground Zero mosque supporters don’t take issue with the location of erecting a Muslim Cultural Center and mosque at ground zero where 3000 people were murdered by Muslim extremists. Weird. Seems the Left feels that only they can determine the locations of things, and only they have the right to sensitivities. (Is it true that Muslims erect mosques on conquered land?)

This is a clumsy, disjointed analogy which seems to set up Beckerhead as a Muslim extremist. I’m sure you didn’t want to set up your demi-god as such. In any event, I question the wisdom of anyone, perhaps an expatriate not in touch with America, exploiting this issue further. Perhaps, you haven’t heard that a New York cab driver was almost murdered as the result of the domestic vitriol and hate-mongering we already had. It seems to be imprudent to add more.

Keep the pot boiling and turn up the heat,
If there be murder, assault or riot ,
What of it, that’s simply our fans red meat ,
Of course, it’s not news, but they’ll still buy it.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
I believe MLK’s namesake puts it perfectly. It’s the hateful rhetoric that Beck spews which makes people object to this. It goes against the beliefs of the man who held his own event here on this day, you’re not restoring honor, you’re destroying it. Dr. King would endorse his right, but not his words, their beliefs are worlds apart. As a matter of fact, Glenn would characterize King as one of those evil socialists destroying America.

Hear! Hear!

And, thanks.
Keep the pot boiling and turn up the heat,
If there be murder, assault or riot ,
What of it, that’s simply our fans red meat ,
Of course, it’s not news, but they’ll still buy it.

paulmdoro said:
Kind of like how Hoover’s FBI thought he was a Communist in the ’60s?

Exactly!!!!!!!
Speaking of Hoover, he’s another man that conservatives idolize, and he was a monster. He openly opposed civil rights advancement and committed numerous human rights violations. Did you know he actually placed FBI agents among Marcus Garvey’s Black Star shipping lines crew and had them take money and sabotage ships? I guess he wasn’t racist either though.

“Unlike you, I am a firm believer in the rule of law.”

You said it in your 10:46 post, King. But I don’t blame you for ‘forgetting’. That was a long time ago.

Hoover’s FBI also wrote “anonymous” letters to King telling him to kill himself for the benefit of mankind.

sarainitaly said:
Weird. Seems the Left feels that only they can determine the locations of things, and only they have the right to sensitivities.

I’d say that the two issues indicate that both sides have the same problem.

sarainitaly said:
Is it true that Muslims erect mosques on conquered land?

Isn’t it true that Christians did the same thing? A conquering army in the old days needed a place to worship, thus necessitating the construction of a house of worship.

I just find it interesting that the man who was recently railing against social justice is wanting to seemingly honor a man who is one of history’s greatest advocates for social justice.

Stephen Hogan said:
I just find it interesting that the man who was recently railing against social justice is wanting to seemingly honor a man who is one of history’s greatest advocates for social justice.

That is interesting and sort of perplexing.

Stephen Hogan said:
I just find it interesting that the man who was recently railing against social justice is wanting to seemingly honor a man who is one of history’s greatest advocates for social justice.

That’s logic there, my friend, these people don’t understand that.
Or rather I should say they don’t care.

Restoring Honor?Of course restore it from the racist hater of white culture along with all the Marxists,Commies and radicals that have taken over our country and these people have one goal and only one goal in mind.We are all gonna be NAZI’S!!! With Muslims,Mexicans,Black Panthers going after your white kids and white women.And if Beck thinks he speaks for God he better listen to God because this phony douche bag is going to burn in hell for sure.

Stephen Hogan said:
Isn’t it true that Christians did the same thing? A conquering army in the old days needed a place to worship, thus necessitating the construction of a house of worship.

So, it is true? I have heard this often, but didn’t kow if it was true. If it is, then the mosque absolutely should not be allowed there. Especially, as I have also read, if they ground breaking was supposed to happen on 9/11. I really don’t know how you could be any more obvious….

Hmmm, yet another case of opposition to allow Conservatives to hold something in a certain location – but yet those who oppose the mosque are just racist or anti-islamic. huh….

“A conservative group has been banned from holding a rally at Illinois’s Old State Capitol because the site prohibits political demonstrations — yet it’s the same place where President Obama announced his run for president and later, his choice of Joe Biden for vice president.”
“The request of another conservative group, the Central Illinois 9/12 Project, to assemble at the Old State Capitol on April 15 also was rejected.”
http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/archives/19976#more-19976

“It’s the hateful rhetoric that Beck spews which makes people object to this.” The_Reasonable_Lib

Examples of Beck’s hateful rhetoric?

The only fair thing would be to compare the body count after Beck’s talk with that of Sharpton. Winner take all.

“But keep up the puerile name-calling.”

“Is that loon David Barton going to be at Beck’s event?”

Logic according to a leftie. Whatever it takes for you to sleep at night. What a joke.

sarainitaly said:

“It’s the hateful rhetoric that Beck spews which makes people object to this.” The_Reasonable_Lib

Examples of Beck’s hateful rhetoric?

I thought you’d never ask. Shall I run through them? Of course I shall. Glenn Beck’s mocking of president Obama’s daughter despite his urging to leave children out of things. Glenn Beck’s denouncement of the president with no proof. Glenn Beck’s consistent cry that progressives are destroying america. Glenn Beck’s statement that he could actually kill Michael Moore. Glenn Beck’s LIE that Imam Rauf’s wife said all americans hate muslims. Glenn Beck’s attempt to portray Obama as a muslim knowing the stigma America has on such. Glenn Beck’s decrying social justice among churches despite the fact that that is all the bible speaks of. Glenn Beck’s constant distortion of history and facts. Shall I continue? I have a lot more here.

Tawana Sharpton doesn’t recognize HONOR for obvious reason – HE (and his race-baiting followers) HAS NONE!
—————————————————————————————

Beck HONORS the Intentions of MLK – Tawana Sherpton perverts those Intentions!!!

Until Beck’s speeches can result in deaths, like occur after Sharpton’s speeches, Beck will remain in the minor leagues.

sarainitaly said:
So, it is true? I have heard this often, but didn’t kow if it was true. If it is, then the mosque absolutely should not be allowed there. Especially, as I have also read, if they ground breaking was supposed to happen on 9/11. I really don’t know how you could be any more obvious….

Hmmm, yet another case of opposition to allow Conservatives to hold something in a certain location – but yet those who oppose the mosque are just racist or anti-islamic. huh….

No, I don’t think that that is a current practice. The example everyone likes to use is the Great Mosque of Cordoba, which was converted from a church in the 8th century. But, at the same time, Christian conquerors were erecting churches. As I said, conquerors need a place to worship, so they build a house of worship. I don’t think that it is purely an Islam thing.

I also don’t think the ground breaking was supposed to be on 9/11. I’ve only read that in blogs and comments.

sarainitaly said:
Hmmm, yet another case of opposition to allow Conservatives to hold something in a certain location – but yet those who oppose the mosque are just racist or anti-islamic. huh…

As I said, both sides seem to have a problem with this type of behavior. I wouldn’t call it a double standard. I think this is just a natural occurrence when liberties and the differing sensitivities clash.

NORBIT said:
Tawana Sharpton doesn’t recognize HONOR for obvious reason – HE (and his race-baiting followers) HAS NONE!
—————————————————————————————

Beck HONORS the Intentions of MLK – Tawana Sherpton perverts those Intentions!!!

How does a man who rails against everything MLK stood for honor him by having an event on the anniversary of MLK’s? Please explain that to me because I’m afraid it MAKES NO SENSE!!!!!!!

Stephen Hogan said:
liberties and the differing sensitivities clash

Cut out the ‘the’ and you have a grammatically correct sentence :)

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Exactly!!!!!!!Speaking of Hoover, he’s another man that conservatives idolize, and he was a monster. He openly opposed civil rights advancement and committed numerous human rights violations. Did you know he actually placed FBI agents among Marcus Garvey’s Black Star shipping lines crew and had them take money and sabotage ships? I guess he wasn’t racist either though.

I love how the loons rewrite history. But it conservatives love to idolize? wow!

“Hoover, with the approval of President Kennedy and Attorney General Robert Kennedy, established phone taps and bugs.”

http://mlk-kpp01.stanford.edu/index.php/encyclopedia/encyclopedia/enc_martin_luther_king_jr_biography/

NORBIT said:

Beck HONORS the Intentions of MLK

Why would Beck want to honor someone who lived and died fighting for social justice, something Beck hates?

notsofast said:
Beck: A true American hero and a voice of reason in an unreasonable world.

And look at the Dems taking money from the 9/11 responders!

Evidence please

The conservative adage “A half truth is a whole and nothing but the truth.”

In a magnanimous gesture of reaching out, Al has advised Beck to have some body bags handy for after the speech. Al figures if he needs them, everyone does.

And a special guest speaker at the I have a scheme speech and please visit my website and buy lots of worthless shit is Michael Enright the 21 year white kid that stabbed the Muslim New York City cab driver because he was a Muslim.He will of course give a Fox news approved anti-Mosque speech for all the Beckerheads and teabaggers to cheer.

It is quite telling that the beck won’t go face to face with Rev Al or anyone that doesn’t agree with his insanity.

Where is Glenn Beck’s crazy stalker on this one? I’d love to hear his rantings. GlennBeckReview? You there?

Iris, I guess you missed those shows where Beck had Al as a guest.

sarainitaly said:
(Is it true that Muslims erect mosques on conquered land?)

Probably the same way that Christians erect churches on conquered lands. Really, is that an actual question? Man, the Muslims have been conquering lands like crazy the last… serious question, what was the last land that a Muslim nation conquered?

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
How does a man who rails against everything MLK stood for honor him by having an event on the anniversary of MLK’s? Please explain that to me because I’m afraid it MAKES NO SENSE!!!!!!!

Simple, he DOESN’T rail against what MLK stood for! – He supports it!
- and if you ever watched the show, instead of listening to the LIES of the Professional Left, you’d know that!
———————————————-

Glenn Beck’s mocking of president Obama’s daughter despite his urging to leave children out of things. – You should change your name to unreasonable Lib. As you VERY well know, Beck was mocking Obama, not Malia. And he apologized – why, I don’t know, but he felt bad.

Glenn Beck’s denouncement of the president with no proof. – No PROOF? Are you kidding? 20 years in a racist church, his quick judgment on things like Skippy Gates, his comment about his grandma calling her a typical white person, etc. There is a looooooooooooong list of support, including comments in Obama’s own books about white man’s greed, etc.

Glenn Beck’s consistent cry that progressives are destroying america. – that’s opinion, not hate. He also provides evidence to back it up.

Glenn Beck’s statement that he could actually kill Michael Moore. – who doesn’t?

Glenn Beck’s LIE that Imam Rauf’s wife said all americans hate muslims. –
Amanpour asked Khan, “Is America Islamophobic? Are you concerned about the long-term relationship between American Muslims and the rest of society here?” Khan replied:

KHAN: Yes, I think we are deeply concerned, because this is like a metastasized anti-Semitism. That’s what we feel right now. It’s not even Islamophobia, it’s beyond Islamophobia. It’s hate of Muslims. And we are deeply concerned. You know, I have had — yesterday, had a council with all religious — Muslim religious leaders from around the country, and everybody is deeply concerned about what’s going on around the nation.

Beck played these same comments from Khan on his Fox News show the night before and said (via Nexis): “All right. So, now, let me see if I have this right. Anyone opposed to building of this mosque, it’s just pure hatred of Muslims. It has nothing to do with a few questions like where is the money coming from to build this mosque? Who is involved in this mosque?”

Sounds like she is saying America is Islamaphobic/has hatered towards Islam to me…

Glenn Beck’s attempt to portray Obama as a muslim knowing the stigma America has on such. – what is wrong with being a Muslim? When has Beck portrayed Obama as a Muslim? I recall him saying Obama is not a Muslim.

Glenn Beck’s decrying social justice among churches despite the fact that that is all the bible speaks of. Glenn Beck’s constant distortion of history and facts. – hateful rhetoric? You are kind of sensitive, aren’t you?

I’d love to see Beck restore honour. I’d like for him to start at home. An honourable man does not demonize the people he disagree’s with. He wouldn’t claim these people hate America and want to destroy the country just because they see different answers for the same problem.

An honourable man would treat people with decency and respect in public and not mock his disenters on public radio.

Of course Al “Tawana Brawley/Crown Heights/Freddie’s Fashion Mart” Sharpton knows all about “honor and bringing people together! Sharpton wouldn’t know honor if it kicked him in the balls!

Sharpton and MLK Jr. don’t own the Lincoln Memorial and they aren’t the ones who give permission for who can hold rallies there. No matter what anyone thinks of Beck.

@sarainitaly,

“Sharpton takes issue with Beck holding a rally about honor, at a certain location, because a speech was given there, 47 years ago.

The Ground Zero mosque supporters don’t take issue with the location of erecting a Muslim Cultural Center and mosque at ground zero where 3000 people were murdered by Muslim extremists.

Weird. Seems the Left feels that only they can determine the locations of things, and only they have the right to sensitivities.”

You make some excellent points here and I agree completely!

Breaking News on FOX earlier:

1 – This waiter/developer is funding another Sharia Law (all infidels must die) mosque in HARLEM!

2 – Where did this waiterdevelopr get 10’s of millions?

3 – Many terrorists were trained in Sharia Law mosques; are these two Sharia Law mosques?

4 – Tradition in Sharia Law to build a monument over conquered enemies.
Why did waiter/developer name mosque after a Battle where Muslims defeated Christians? – and built a mosque on that land to monumentize the victory! – Hello Ground Zero!!!

5 – Are these two mosques being used as incubators for future terrorists? – are they preaching Sharia Law (death to infidels) and Radical Islam??

6 – Why is the “Victory Mosque” Imam allowed to be an emissary of Obama’s USA with his dubious relationships with known terrorist groups??

Why is the Professional Left APPEASING Sharia Law – which calls for persecution of homosexuals, adulterer-stonings, women subjugation & death to infidels???

LOTS OF QUESTIONS on the “Victory Mosque”!

Where does YOUR Democrat stand on the issue??

Keep the mosque issue ALIVE – It’s hurting Dem chances in November!

NORBIT said:
Simple, he DOESN’T rail against what MLK stood for! – He supports it!
- and if you ever watched the show, instead of listening to the LIES of the Professional Left, you’d know that!
———————————————-

Since when does Beck support social justice?

Beck should just do his thing and not bring all these outsiders, like Sharpton, into the mix. Freedom of assembly is a right in America and the ”sensitivity” of Beck’s opponents, has to be secondary, whatever [sensitivity] means, in this instance. Besides, hasn’t the fringe left been screaming for weeks, that the sensitivity of the families of 9-11 victims, is secondary to freedom of religion, in building a mosque at GZ? I not only insist, but demand, that the fringe left stop harassing Beck and his guests, on Saturday. And, no, I’m not a Beck follower, but I do defend freedom of assembly. Beck should really concern himself, mostly, with making sure all the attendants at his rally, have adequate security and protection, from outside agitators. Beck’s opponents, in the interest of coming together as a nation, should offer to clean up the grounds, when the rally is over. Other than that, just sit down and shut up. Just calm down and shut the hell up.

@paulmdoro, “Al Sharpton is not “the left.”

Then why does the msm keep using him as though he represents the left? Whenever there is a question about racial issues CNN calls in the biggest race baiters they can find, Rev. Al and Roland Martin, to address it. I don’t see Pat Robertson coming on FNC.

If Sharpton and Martin are the best the left can offer to represent their side they have a bigger problem than they think.

newzmaker said:
Freedom of assembly is a right in America and the ‘’sensitivity” of Beck’s opponents, has to be secondary, whatever [sensitivity] means, in this instance.

You are right. Just, as you also said, that the sensitivities of those opposing the mosque must come secondary.

The sensitivity of the majorityis an easy excuse to oppress a minority.

@paulmdoro, ” Since when does Beck support social justice?”

Sharpton only supports social justice when it affects blacks.

Sharpton believes in taking the Steve Urkel approach. After he stirs up hatred and people get killed, Al says “Did I do that?”

chucken said:
And a special guest speaker at the I have a scheme speech and please visit my website and buy lots of worthless shit is Michael Enright the 21 year white kid that stabbed the Muslim New York City cab driver because he was a Muslim.He will of course give a Fox news approved anti-Mosque speech for all the Beckerheads and teabaggers to cheer.

To even joke about that speaks volumes about the worthlessness of your being. Go back and crawl under whatever toadstool you arose from.

sarainitaly said:
Glenn Beck’s LIE that Imam Rauf’s wife said all americans hate muslims. –
Amanpour asked Khan, “Is America Islamophobic? Are you concerned about the long-term relationship between American Muslims and the rest of society here?” Khan replied:

KHAN: Yes, I think we are deeply concerned, because this is like a metastasized anti-Semitism. That’s what we feel right now. It’s not even Islamophobia, it’s beyond Islamophobia. It’s hate of Muslims. And we are deeply concerned. You know, I have had — yesterday, had a council with all religious — Muslim religious leaders from around the country, and everybody is deeply concerned about what’s going on around the nation.

Beck played these same comments from Khan on his Fox News show the night before and said (via Nexis): “All right. So, now, let me see if I have this right. Anyone opposed to building of this mosque, it’s just pure hatred of Muslims. It has nothing to do with a few questions like where is the money coming from to build this mosque? Who is involved in this mosque?”

Sounds like she is saying America is Islamaphobic/has hatered towards Islam to me…

Um, no, that’s not what she said at all. The question, for the most part, wasn’t about the mosque as it was about a general feeling of hatred that has emerged in this country. (Actually, the hatred extends back to its roots after the Ayotollah took control of Iran. Great editorial in NY Daily News piece about an older Muslim who came to this country and found a place of worship inside the St. Paul’s cathedral in downtown Manhattan for him and his Muslim neighbors. He was floored and instantly loved our country because of its tolerance, which he claims has certainly disappeared over the years, and makes me sad that the same level of tolerance has slowly eroded. But again, he said that it wasn’t all because of 9/11, but stemmed from the fall of moderate Muslim ideology in Iran back in 1979. It’s a touching story and should make people holding anti-Islamic sentiments feel bad…but I know it won’t). I don’t think she mentioned the word mosque or opposition or Ground Zero. I think she was talking about an anti-Muslim feelings (see the cab driver stabbed in the neck in NY) that are taking control here in the country. She didn’t say all Americans are anti-Muslim (the question was about Muslim Americans who still should count as Americans). And do you think they shouldn’t be deeply concerned that an entire religion is being villainized based on the actions of extremists? I certainly would. So, see Beck spun the words and created an editorial that blurred the line of what was being said to further his own agenda (every pundit does this from Beck to Olbermann). But yet, you ate it up and really didn’t examine what was said. And then it feeds into the “Well, Khan thinks all Americans hate Muslims.” Again, she didn’t say that. If she did, she didn’t say it in that quote. See, how a misinterpretation can be harmful.

libra blue said:
@paulmdoro, ” Since when does Beck support social justice?”

Sharpton only supports social justice when it affects blacks.

Doesn’t answer the question. I have not defended Sharpton either.

órdoba- Built on top of a conquered Spanish church
Ka’aba- Built over a Pagan worship center by Muhammad himself
Babri- Constructed over a huge Hindu worship center
Al Aqsa- Built on the Temple mount, the holiest site in Judasim
Ummayad – Built over Saint Johns burial site

They have built thousands of mosques over the sites of conquered Jewish, Christian and Hindu holy sites. Its what they do. The largest Mosque in the US being placed at ground zero sends a very clear message to Islamic practitioners, particularly those in the Middle East.
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/08/04/lawsuit-challenges-ground-zero-mosque/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjS0Novt3X4&feature=player_embedded

Permatiltx said:
Probably the same way that Christians erect churches on conquered lands. Really, is that an actual question? Man, the Muslims have been conquering lands like crazy the last… serious question, what was the last land that a Muslim nation conquered?

9/11/2001, Manhattan, Twin Towers.

Stephen Hogan said:
You are right. Just, as you also said, that the sensitivities of those opposing the mosque must come secondary.

Actually, I’m in favor, personally, of considering the sensitivity of the families of the 9-11 victims, though the fringe left isn’t. August 28, however, has little or no significance, to most Americans, therefore, I fully support freedom of assembly, in this instance.

Permatiltx said:
. But yet, you ate it up and really didn’t examine what was said. And then it feeds into the “Well, Khan thinks all Americans hate Muslims.” Again, she didn’t say that. If she did, she didn’t say it in that quote. See, how a misinterpretation can be harmful.

I got those quotes from media matters.

newzmaker said:
Actually, I’m in favor, personally, of considering the sensitivity of the families of the 9-11 victims, though the fringe left isn’t. August 28, however, has little or no significance, to most Americans, therefore, I fully support freedom of assembly, in this instance.

But many of the 9/11 families support it, though I am sure they appreciate your sensitivity.

@paulmdoro, “Doesn’t answer the question. I have not defended Sharpton either”.

I never said Beck supported social justice, at least not Sharpton’s definition of it, but let’s not pretend that Sharpton is any more honorable. And Beck is not responsible for leading rallies that caused riots and deaths and destruction as Sharpton has. Therein lies the difference, a big difference that gets overlooked by CNN.

sarainitaly said:
9/11/2001, Manhattan, Twin Towers.

Given the context of your list and your stated criteria, would you consider the World Trade Center to be ‘holy site’?

I think it is important to mention that all of those mosques were either built or converted centuries ago, with the most recent (Babri) having been constructed in the 16th century. The others were completed before the end of the first millennia AD.

sarainitaly said:
órdoba- Built on top of a conquered Spanish church
Ka’aba- Built over a Pagan worship center by Muhammad himself
Babri- Constructed over a huge Hindu worship center
Al Aqsa- Built on the Temple mount, the holiest site in Judasim
Ummayad – Built over Saint Johns burial site

They have built thousands of mosques over the sites of conquered Jewish, Christian and Hindu holy sites. Its what they do. The largest Mosque in the US being placed at ground zero sends a very clear message to Islamic practitioners, particularly those in the Middle East.
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/08/04/lawsuit-challenges-ground-zero-mosque/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjS0Novt3X4&feature=player_embedded

9/11/2001, Manhattan, Twin Towers.

Okay, quick question, and I’d love to get an answer, what were the years of those? Yes, Muslims built mosques in conquered lands. It was common practice in history. Did you see the churches in America (actual conquered land that was conquered from the native Americans and we sure built churches like gang busters, didn’t we. But of course that was over 200 years ago. Is it still a common practice? Are we still conquering like mother fuckers with a manifest destiny hard on? (short answer, no.) ). And do you think the Muslims conquered us? Which muslims? I don’t know if you know this, but see, there are multiple Muslim nations, each with their own government and their own rules and interpretation of the laws of the Koran. And there are a lot of in fighting between the Muslim community (similar to here, so like us), so my question is, Who conquered us? The Persian empire doesn’t exist and there is no Muslim empire. Osama Bin Laden (the one who attacked us) isn’t building the mosque (community center, it would be the largest Islamic Community Center. Just like the YMCA on 92nd St. isn’t the largest church in the United States). And then, you say that Khan is crazy for thinking that there is an anti-Muslim sentiment in this country. Your comments scream it from the rooftops. It’s a lack of understanding of how the world actually works (I’m talking based on empire building and land conquering and what not. You probably understand other elements on how the world works). But it’s easy to throw up things that happened in history as proof that we should be afraid. Kind of how black people mention a fear of white people based on their treatment in history. But you don’t think that’s right, do you.

sarainitaly said:
I got those quotes from media matters.

But you said that Beck played those same quotes on his show. Are you saying that he didn’t now?

newzmaker said:
Actually, I’m in favor, personally, of considering the sensitivity of the families of the 9-11 victims, though the fringe left isn’t. August 28, however, has little or no significance, to most Americans, therefore, I fully support freedom of assembly, in this instance.

I understand the sensitivities of 9/11 survivors and families. I know quite a few of them. However, I do not believe that the sensitivities of some outweigh the rights of others. It is for the same reason that I am against censorship.

The Real Royal King said:
This is a clumsy, disjointed analogy which seems to set up Beckerhead as a Muslim extremist. I’m sure you didn’t want to set up your demi-god as such. In any event, I question the wisdom of anyone, perhaps an expatriate not in touch with America, exploiting this issue further. Perhaps, you haven’t heard that a New York cab driver was almost murdered as the result of the domestic vitriol and hate-mongering we already had. It seems to be imprudent to add more.

you better do some more research on the attacker, you fucking tard.

If it is historical precedence to erect mosques on conquered land, then it is completely insensitive to erect this one at the site of Ground Zero, where the landing wheels fell to earth. It doesn’t matter if it is as old as time, if Christians did it too, or that they haven’t conquered land in hundreds of years (well, except for 9/11) – it is symbolic, and highly insensitive to the victims families and to the people of New York and around the country. If they truly had honest, good intentions, they would realize how insensitive and symbolic their actions actually are, and move the damn building.

Their lack of understanding and sensitivities to those affected ring loud and clear, and will do nothing to mend fences, or build bridges or whatever. It is will be monument to the conquest and mass murder committed on 9/11/2001.

sarainitaly said:

It is will be monument to the conquest and mass murder committed on 9/11/2001.

That is exactly what it is not.

Constantly said:
you better do some more research on the attacker, you fucking tard.

It doesn’t matter if the attacker identified himself as ‘Progressive’ or worked for an interfaith group (which I find to be the strangest part). He still savagely attacked someone because of their religion. The attack seems to coincide with growing anti-Islamic sentiment across the country.

sarainitaly said:
that they haven’t conquered land in hundreds of years (well, except for 9/11)

I strongly disagree with the notion that Manhattan was ‘conquered’.

newzmaker said:
August 28, however, has little or no significance, to most Americans, therefore, I fully support freedom of assembly, in this instance.

I’m hoping that I misread that last quote. Um, that was a very significant speech in American history. Quite possibly one of the most important to move our country toward civil rights. Now, it doesn’t have the same significance as 9/11, nowhere near. But to say it has little to no significance to most Americans, well, that is 1) short sighted or 2) very stupid and lack of understanding of American history.

Permatiltx said:
Your comments scream it from the rooftops.

uh, oh really, now? how exactly?

Permatiltx said:
But you said that Beck played those same quotes on his show. Are you saying that he didn’t now?

no, i’m saying i got that from media matters – who claims beck was lying, when i read it, it sounds like Beck got what she was saying correct.
http://mediamatters.org/research/201008240058

Concerning the building of the NYC mosque, the left has reminded us that the Constitution doesn’t guarantee sensitivity. If it applies in one instance, it applies in them all.

Qestion for Glenduh!!
“What part of ‘HONOR’ are you for???

writer said:
Concerning the building of the NYC mosque, the left has reminded us that the Constitution doesn’t guarantee sensitivity.

You are right. It does not.

writer said:
If it applies in one instance, it applies in them all.

I agree entirely.

paulmdoro said:
But many of the 9/11 families support it, though I am sure they appreciate your sensitivity.

Of course. Those whom lost a loved one on 9-11 deserve our sensitivity, whether or not they agree on the mosque location. I respect their views, over the views of those whom didn’t lose anyone.

sarainitaly said:
If it is historical precedence to erect mosques on conquered land, then it is completely insensitive to erect this one at the site of Ground Zero, where the landing wheels fell to earth. It doesn’t matter if it is as old as time, if Christians did it too, or that they haven’t conquered land in hundreds of years (well, except for 9/11) – it is symbolic, and highly insensitive to the victims families and to the people of New York and around the country. If they truly had honest, good intentions, they would realize how insensitive and symbolic their actions actually are, and move the damn building.

Their lack of understanding and sensitivities to those affected ring loud and clear, and will do nothing to mend fences, or build bridges or whatever. It is will be monument to the conquest and mass murder committed on 9/11/2001.

It is also of historical precedence that black people were oppressed and abused by white people. But if a black person says, Hey, I don’t like white people based on this historical precedence you would be quick to call them racist. So, I can be quick to call you an Islamaphobe. Again, when was the last time this happened?

Also, they took that place to build it because they got a deal and was the prime spot for location and price. They didn’t do it “to declare victory on America.” So, if you are fine with having them build away from the site, then why isn’t it a “victory” to build it there?

Now, there lack of understanding is bullshit. There intentions weren’t to slap America in the face. They are Americans doing this after all. Of course, now, I think they have to move it, and its sad that they have to. There intentions were noble and good. And a bunch of people who do not understand truly what happened on 9/11 or even the true feelings of other religions, a bigoted, biased, hurtful opinion on another people, will force an attempt to provide a unified peace for the community out. But they should build this center, and they should open their doors wider. And then the jerks who sat there and called them terrorists or a victory mosque will see what tolerance can look like. Of course, they won’t understand what tolerance is, but I least they can see what it looks like.

And by the way, 9/11 wasn’t an act to conquer a land (they did a shit job of it, seeing as how no other troops came in to secure the land or any other machinations that a true conquering nation would’ve used), it was a spineless act of evil hidden behind religion (that’s where the best evils tend to hide), an act of revenge (don’t make it seem like I think we deserved it, we didn’t.). But it’s easier to hate and fear if you just say conquering nation.

The weird thing is that they intended to build bridges, but of course, we tore that fucking bridge down before they even had a chance to put the foundation in.

You are so right, Glynnis, the rally will definitely show the power of Beck, not in terms of message but sheer volume of people who attend the rally. I do suspect it will also raise a ton of money for the military chariites, which is of course a great outcome. I love the ‘restore honor’ theme is needed, not sure if Beck is the right messenger.

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Stephen Hogan said:
I strongly disagree with the notion that Manhattan was ‘conquered’.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conquer: To overcome by force of arms

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/conquered

Permatiltx said:
I’m hoping that I misread that last quote. Um, that was a very significant speech in American history. Quite possibly one of the most important to move our country toward civil rights. Now, it doesn’t have the same significance as 9/11, nowhere near. But to say it has little to no significance to most Americans, well, that is 1) short sighted or 2) very stupid and lack of understanding of American history.

I didn’t mention a speech, but I did mention the date of August 28.

sarainitaly said:
uh, oh really, now? how exactly?

no, i’m saying i got that from media matters – who claims beck was lying, when i read it, it sounds like Beck got what she was saying correct.
http://mediamatters.org/research/201008240058

So, just to get this straight. You interpreted this from Media Matters and not from Glenn Beck’s show itself. I’m having a discussion over the interpretation of an interpretation. Though technically mine is an interpretation of an interpretation of an interpretation.

Stephen Hogan said:
It doesn’t matter if the attacker identified himself as ‘Progressive’ or worked for an interfaith group (which I find to be the strangest part). He still savagely attacked someone because of their religion. The attack seems to coincide with growing anti-Islamic sentiment across the country.

umm i was saying he’s obviously a whackjob, i dont give a fuck what his political beliefs are. besides, that was more for royal cuz hes such a wussy cunt.

newzmaker said:
I didn’t mention a speech, but I did mention the date of August 28.

Funny thing is if the speech was never mentioned, then no one would’ve noticed, but alas, now it is about the speech, so August 28 now means the “I Have a Dream” speech, and that’s what it is ultimately about. And you’d agree that there is historical significance in that speech, right?

Constantly said:
umm i was saying he’s obviously a whackjob, i dont give a fuck what his political beliefs are. besides, that was more for royal cuz hes such a wussy cunt.

Sorry, I assumed wrongly that you were following the same line as Murf and Norbit. Yes, I agree. The attacker is a total whack job.

sarainitaly said:
uh, oh really, now? how exactly?

You are claiming that the Muslim religion (it was radically extremists) conquered (they attacked us but didn’t conquer) us on Sept. 11, 2001, and therefore their (spelled that right this time) “mosque” is them building it upon sacred land to claim victory. Um, that sounds like fear to me, and it’s directed at Muslims. If that’s not anti-Muslim sentiment then I’m not sure what it is.

@Permatiltx, “But if a black person says, Hey, I don’t like white people based on this historical precedence you would be quick to call them racist.”

If??????????? Blacks continue to sing that ridiculous worn out old song every chance they get. They need to stop living in the past and start living in the 21st century like every other group that has been discriminated against has done.

Permatiltx said:
Funny thing is if the speech was never mentioned, then no one would’ve noticed, but alas, now it is about the speech, so August 28 now means the “I Have a Dream” speech, and that’s what it is ultimately about. And you’d agree that there is historical significance in that speech, right?

Actually, my friends and family know all, that I consider significant and insignificant, historically, or otherwise. I really can’t allow you, a liberal, to ask such personal questions, however. Nothing personal, though.

Permatiltx said:
So, if you are fine with having them build away from the site, then why isn’t it a “victory” to build it there?

There are hundreds/thousands of mosques in NY/US. Obviously they have been free to build elsewhere. People are asking that they show some sensitivity and NOT erect this at the site of ground zero. If they moved it, they could build it, and no one would get hurt. They don’t want to. Who are the insensitive ones?

“There [sic] intentions were noble and good.” And you know this, how, exactly? Would you bet your life on it? Do you know where the money is coming from? Why is the developer running from the press?

sarainitaly said:
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conquer: To overcome by force of arms

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/conquered

The World Trade Center was not ‘overcome by force of arms’. Manhattan was not ‘overcome’. Neither was it ‘defeated’ or ‘subdued’. It was essentially bombed in a singular event, much like the USS Cole and the US Embassy in Kenya.

One day has passed. I am waiting for the Fox News haters to list the lies from yesterdays broadcasts.
I watched yesterday and I could not find any lies. If Fox News lies everyday list the ones from yesterday.

RRK, you are the one with the biggest mouth, where are the lies from yesterday?

Ted, any lies yesterday? Remember I am not talking about your lies from yesterday.

If a liberal comes on a Fox News program and lies, is that a lie by Fox News?

libra blue said:
@Permatiltx, “But if a black person says, Hey, I don’t like white people based on this historical precedence you would be quick to call them racist.”

If??????????? Blacks continue to sing that ridiculous worn out old song every chance they get. They need to stop living in the past and start living in the 21st century like every other group that has been discriminated against has done.

Just like the Muslims aren’t conquering and building victory mosques because that’s what they did centuries ago. That was my point of the argument. You can’t say, Well this group did this in history, but another group doing something in history doesn’t count. Just finding holes in her argument. Again, this is something that happened 50 years ago compared to something that happened hundreds of years ago. How does one get more weight than the other?

gordonbloyershow said:
One day has passed. I am waiting for the Fox News haters to list the lies from yesterdays broadcasts.I watched yesterday and I could not find any lies. If Fox News lies everyday list the ones from yesterday. RRK, you are the one with the biggest mouth, where are the lies from yesterday? Ted, any lies yesterday? Remember I am not talking about your lies from yesterday. If a liberal comes on a Fox News program and lies, is that a lie by Fox News?

I’ll get back to you as soon as FOX covers some news. So far, no news. Just half-cocked radical rightist claptrap.

Keep the pot boiling and turn up the heat,
If there be murder, assault or riot ,
What of it, that’s simply our fans red meat ,
Of course, it’s not news, but they’ll still buy it.

sarainitaly said:
There are hundreds/thousands of mosques in NY/US. Obviously they have been free to build elsewhere. People are asking that they show some sensitivity and NOT erect this at the site of ground zero. If they moved it, they could build it, and no one would get hurt. They don’t want to. Who are the insensitive ones?

Perhaps, as an expatriate you don’t have the some love of and respect for our Constitution I do, but I think asking someone to surrender a Constitutional right is very harmful, not only to the person being asked to surrender the right, but also to the fool asking that a right be surrendered and to our nation as a whole. As I said, I suppose you just can’t understand this.

Keep the pot boiling and turn up the heat,
If there be murder, assault or riot ,
What of it, that’s simply our fans red meat ,
Of course, it’s not news, but they’ll still buy it.

Dosser said:
I love how Sharpton keeps the bigots on their toes,stupidity of this nature will not be allowed to proceed in this nation unopposed,sorry! Of course he doesn’t come close to the beauty of the NAACP.
Does anybody remember the hissyfit the teatwits threw after the iconic Civil Rights organization,NAACP,fully condemned them??? ohhh it was beautiful,made the twits dance like wildfire! haha. btw all you beckers don’t forget to take the blue line north,watch out for the ‘darkies’.Don’t bother visiting the WH this year though,[psssss] i hear there’s a ‘darkie’ living there now.Be careful guys…. Muahaha!

What’s with all these thumbs down???
Did the teatwits not throw a hissyfit when the NAACP condemned the racist elements in their ranks???
Their de’facto leader leader Sarah ‘refudiate’ Palin came out defending her cubs while the folk over a Fox screamed,moaned and bi%$%^.Sorry but the NAACP made the twits dance like wildfire! haha,also the ex-pro amnesty ‘Rino’ won in Arizona.He’s against changing the 14th amendment,he’s soft on immigration and he’s soft on the HCR.Add that to the long list of teatwit failures.A race-baiter and a self appointed ‘rodeo clown’ going at it…oh this is going to be good.

Against ‘honor?” No one is against honor. But Glenn Beck has no honor and demonstrates his lack of integrity every evening at 5.

Simply laughable that the good rev Sharpton or his fellow political prostitute, Jesse J would be interviewed on the subject of honor. Their game is to pull the race card and leverage corporations for political support and funding. They know nothing of humanity, Christianity or discrimination against white people. Why waste the time on him? Interview Bill Cosby, Bernice King or Collin Powell for the black viewpoint.

sarainitaly said:
It is will be monument to the conquest and mass murder committed on 9/11/2001.

This is one of the most offensive posts to ever appear on Mediaite. To suggest that NYC was conquered is a slur against all New Yorkers and all Americans. You need to apologize to large number of people for this terrible slander.

Keep the pot boiling and turn up the heat,
If there be murder, assault or riot ,
What of it, that’s simply our fans red meat ,
Of course, it’s not news, but they’ll still buy it.

sarainitaly said:
There are hundreds/thousands of mosques in NY/US. Obviously they have been free to build elsewhere. People are asking that they show some sensitivity and NOT erect this at the site of ground zero. If they moved it, they could build it, and no one would get hurt. They don’t want to. Who are the insensitive ones?

“There [sic] intentions were noble and good.” And you know this, how, exactly? Would you bet your life on it? Do you know where the money is coming from? Why is the developer running from the press?

I typed in mosque developer running from press and got this story: http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/index.ssf/story/mosque-developer-claims-a-classic-nyc-background/981e9dd090ec4356b865b3282afe64a6

I’m assuming you mean because he has deflected interview requests (a developer, not a politician, not a celebrity, but a businessman with zero previous press experience diverting to his publicist is probably a smart thing to do.) that means he is running from the press and has something to hide. Also, read up on his history, sounds pretty American to me. Seems like his inspiration for a community center was inspired by a Jewish community center and a Christian community center (the 92nd St. Y which I’ve been to, it’s nice) that transcended above religion to be an outreach to the community. Seems that must mean the Jews and the Christians are in on this victory mosque as well. In other words, yes, I’d bet my life on it. Because I would bet my life on the ideals of my country. I live in New York, I hang out with Muslims (not a single one wants to kill me or feel that 9/11 was a victory for Muslims everywhere. I also have black friends – last line was meant as joke) And who are the insensitive ones? Have you thought for a moment what this hate for the mosque, for these people who weren’t even responsible for the attacks of 9/11, just happen to be the same religion, what that does to them. They are, after all, Americans as well as Muslims. And there’s more of them than 9/11 families (I’m not saying we shouldn’t be sensitive to the 9/11 families, but there are stories that show that a good portion of those families are NOT against the mosque. But either way, the sensitivity argument is just a red herring. I don’t think those opposing the mosque outside of the 9/11 families really give two flying fucks about sensitivity. After all they are willing to villainize an entire group of people just because they have a religious connection with a violent group.). Oh, and by building it there, who’s getting hurt? Are you talking an emotional pain or a physical pain. Do you think they are putting themselves or others in danger?

Look, I know I’m not going to change your mind. You are dead set on thinking that the Muslim religion is set to conquer and destroy America. But hopefully someone who is on the fence will read what a reasonable argument sounds like and I can push them to my side.

The RRQ says:

“I question the wisdom of anyone, that doesn’t agree with meee!”

There fixed it for you.

writer says: “For Al to be be against honor, he’d have to know what it was.”

For Beck to “Restore Honor,” he has to have had some at some point. When? As a morning show, dirty trickster, drug addict, or now as a liar, a hypocrite and a charlatan?

It’s all documented on The Glenn Beck Review. Share this URL:
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com

Beck is telling him minions to be honest, but he keeps lying! That’s one more hypocrisy.

Why aren’t the liberal blogs discussing “Beat Whitey Night”, at the Iowa fair? Too politically incorrect, I gather, to mention. LOL.

Hey Glenn, The premise of the entire event is an insult. Whose honor was lost in the first place? Another rhetorical trick to monetize people’s ignorance and fear.

RRK you need to apologize to everyone here everyday. You should apologize for being so dumb. Nobody cares if you are offended about anything. You have no credibility. People have pointed out your lies on a daily basis.

I am waiting for you to list the lies on Fox News yesterday.

@Permatiltx, “Again, this is something that happened 50 years ago compared to something that happened hundreds of years ago”.

So at what point will blacks shut up and stop blaming everyone else for their situation? 60 years, 70, years, 80 years, 100 years? Never, as long as there are bleeding heart liberals.

The Jews were discriminated against during the same time period, but they didn’t sit around and whine. They picked themselves up and moved on with their lives instead of wasting time on worthless marches and riots in order to terrorize and force people to give them something.

BTW, slavery still continues in one form or another in places like Haiti.

“Honor”?? What honmor are these goons possibly talking about?? USA has no honor – only the honor of yesterday. Honor has been dragged deep into the sewer & left there – by the 2 BushDrunks & their minions.

gordonbloyershow says: “One day has passed. I am waiting for the Fox News haters to list the lies from yesterdays broadcasts.”

I did this where you posed that question yesterday Gordon. It was the lie of omission when they told who was funding Fauf. But they didn’t say that the same guy is the second largest stock holder of NewsCorp. That is a lie of omission.

Gordon, sign up for the Media Matters for American newsletter. They are constantly pointing out Fox’s lies. You’re not going to hear it from Media Research Center or News Busters. They don’t give a damn about right wing deceit or bias.

People are calling Obama a Muslim. Many of these people don’t really believe he is, they are using Muslim as a substitute for N____R, which is really what they want to call Obama but can’t or won’t.

libra blue says: “Never, as long as there are bleeding heart liberals.”

Right! Leave it to the mean spirited reactionary/conservatives, and we’d still have institutional slavery!

There is still loads of racism. Sometimes it’s explicit; sometimes it’s implicit. The latter is underneath your comment “libra blue.”

libra blue said:
@Permatiltx, “Again, this is something that happened 50 years ago compared to something that happened hundreds of years ago”.

So at what point will blacks shut up and stop blaming everyone else for their situation? 60 years, 70, years, 80 years, 100 years? Never, as long as there are bleeding heart liberals.

The Jews were discriminated against during the same time period, but they didn’t sit around and whine. They picked themselves up and moved on with their lives instead of wasting time on worthless marches and riots in order to terrorize and force people to give them something.

BTW, slavery still continues in one form or another in places like Haiti.

Okay, we’re done Libra, only because you are missing the point of the argument. Has nothing to do with how I feel about black history or slavery or any of that right now. We can debate that at another time. What you are doing is taking the focus away from my point. Sarah was saying that Muslims would build mosques on conquered lands. Something that was done centuries ago. I was pointing out how it was the same as saying black responses to white people due to (recent) history was considered racist but her statement wasn’t considered Islamaphobic. I’m sure she appreciates you taking the focus away from my argument. But again, that point was not what I was arguing.

Difference is, if racism comes from anyone other than white people, you won’t hear a peep out of GBR. Very politically incorrect, you know. The Klan hates Jews and is for segregation? Racist. Black Muslims say the same thing. Crickets chirping.

“People are calling Obama a Muslim. Many of these people don’t really believe he is, they are using Muslim as a substitute for N____R, which is really what they want to call Obama but can’t or won’t.” N____R? NASCAR? NEW LEADER? It’s nice that’s these hatemongers are so sensitive about which slurs they use, eh?

Obama being black is the only thing he’s got going for him.

“Gordon, sign up for the Media Matters for American newsletter”

Then you’ll have to cut your fingers off to avoid deleting this partisan claptrap.

@GlennBeckReview, ” Leave it to the mean spirited reactionary/conservatives, and we’d still have institutional slavery!”

I think I know what my comments were, but I also said in places like Haiti where blacks are enslaving each other to get ahead.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I am not a Republican, nor am I a conservative. I am an Independent voter who did not vote for Bush and I loathe Palin. I support gay rights and a woman’s right to choose. The GOP/conservatives have their problems as well, but the left has used racism as a means to an end: to get votes and nothing more, no matter what they truly believe. If you think there aren’t a bunch of liberal racists think again.

Permatiltx says:
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sarainitaly said:
uh, oh really, now? how exactly?

You are claiming that the Muslim religion (it was radically extremists) conquered (they attacked us but didn’t conquer) us on Sept. 11, 2001, and therefore their (spelled that right this time) “mosque” is them building it upon sacred land to claim victory. Um, that sounds like fear to me, and it’s directed at Muslims. If that’s not anti-Muslim sentiment then I’m not sure what it is.

Yea, PERM, I don’t know why anyone would link mosques to terrorists…

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/september-11-attackers-former-mosque-closed-2047530.html

GlennBeckReview said:
P> Right! Leave it to the mean spirited reactionary/conservatives, and we’d still have institutional slavery! <P ”

Yeah, there’s another re-writing of history. Tell me, how did the Civil Rights Act get passed????

Your rhetoric is just as bad as the “right wing nuts” you loathe.

Like many in the black community, many liberals use the charge of racism when they cannot come up with a good argument to support their point of view.

i take it alot of these jackasses will be in D.C. this weekend.

Sorry GBR, there is no such thing as a lie of omission. Try again.
When global warming nuts say that there is scientific consenses that is a lie. When the media report that lie as though it is fact that is a lie. They also omit all the scientists that say there is no consenses, that by your standard would be a lie of omission. It is not, it is liberal bias.

The problem with you ignorant leftists is that you think that what you believe is the truth and anything that proves you wrong is a lie. Fox does not lie they just report the truth that you don’t believe. When they leave out what you believe that is a lie. Sorry pal, you can’t fool anybody anymore.

I believe it classic liberalism, where we don’t divide people up. “What’s the African-American community feel about this? What about the Latino vote? Women? The gay community?” How about Americans looking out for Americans? I don’t give a crap what color you are, or who you sleep with. If you’re American, be American and be proud of it.

Permatiltx said:
Have you thought for a moment what this hate for the mosque, for these people who weren’t even responsible for the attacks of 9/11, just happen to be the same religion, what that does to them.

There are many Muslims who oppose the mosque being built there, and have expressed similar points of views as mine. The cabbie who was just stabbed opposes the building, as well. Daniel Pearl’s father and families of 9/11 victims oppose it being built, are they all hatemongering islmaphobes?

The Left are the ones guilty of hatemongering and insensitivity by declaring anyone who opposes the mosque are hatemongers, racist, and islamaphobic. It is hysterical hatred from the left. something we see over and over again.

i am logging off, and making dinner, so this is shorter than i wanted, but oh well.

Tony the Fist said:
How about Americans looking out for Americans? I don’t give a crap what color you are, or who you sleep with. If you’re American, be American and be proud of it.

I’m with you. But most, on both sides feel they can’t gin up votes like that.

How about this candidate?
http://www.paulsen.com/pat/

sarainitaly said:
Permatiltx says:
August 26, 2010 at 1:01 pm
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sarainitaly said:
uh, oh really, now? how exactly?

You are claiming that the Muslim religion (it was radically extremists) conquered (they attacked us but didn’t conquer) us on Sept. 11, 2001, and therefore their (spelled that right this time) “mosque” is them building it upon sacred land to claim victory. Um, that sounds like fear to me, and it’s directed at Muslims. If that’s not anti-Muslim sentiment then I’m not sure what it is.

Yea, PERM, I don’t know why anyone would link mosques to terrorists…

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/september-11-attackers-former-mosque-closed-2047530.html

Wait, so the terrorists were Muslim, therefore all mosques are terrorist connected. Is that your point? Did I say that there wouldn’t be connection to mosques and terror? No, I’m saying this one isn’t. I’ve brought up a couple of points here and there, and this is the one you bring up. Yes, the terrorists were Islamic, I’m not denying it. I even said they hid their evil behind religion, so of course I’m not saying there wouldn’t be a connection to a mosque and the terrorist. But this one (as well as a great majority of them in this and other countries, I went to the Blue Mosque in Turkey, beautiful place, also, no terrorists) isn’t. And it’s very Islamaphobic to think that a handful equals all. What of the other points? The history issue? The fact that Beck’s interpretation of what Khan said was just that, an interpretation and not a fact? The developer’s personal history? Who gets hurt with the building of the Islamic Center? I know I do write quite a bit. But it’s because I don’t think that debates should be solved with some quick sound bites and repeated talking points.

writer says: “Difference is, if racism comes from anyone other than white people, you won’t hear a peep out of GBR…”

Really? You’ve read my entire blog? You “know” that I don’t have a problem with racism from any source? No, of course not; you’re guessing. I called out the New Black Panther Party as racist.
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/07/new-black-panther-party-to-confront.html

Got any more dumb assumptions “writer?”

Libra blue, if you don’t think that the lion’s share of racists in this country are on the right and a large part of the Republican base, then you need to think again.

sara in italy: I’m at work or I’d write more, but thank you for representing the voice of reason around here! you go girl!

real quickly, for most of the rest of you:

-Glenn Beck and MLK Jr. both believe in equal rights, personal responsibility, and content of character over color of skin.

-”social justice” is a code word for the leftist creed of equal OUTCOMES, which is the exact opposite of equal OPPORTUNITY, which is what MLK fought and died for.

-Jesus asked us to help “the least of us,” he didn’t say “give your money to the government and they’ll decide who deserves it.” Beck has explained this several times. there’s a difference between giving of your time and money, and the government FORCING YOU TO GIVE OF YOUR TIME AND MONEY.

-if a black person says something bad about a white person, we might agree or disagree, but we don’t call the black person a racist. if someone says that Israel is trying to kill Palestinians we don’t–we’re not allowed!–to call the person an anti-Semite. but if someone says “gee, I don’t think the Muslims should build the mosque just right there–they should move it a couple of blocks”–suddenlly the whole country is made up of evil Muslim-hating bigots. why is that?

-by the way, do you guys know how moronic you sound when half your comments consist of making up mean names for people? seriously, are you people still really saying “teabagger”? do you not realize that nobody cares anymore and it just makes you sound stupider? and “Beckerhead”? how is that even a slam? if you stuck to the issues at hand people might take you more seriously. might.

sarainitaly says: “The Left are the ones guilty of hatemongering and insensitivity by declaring anyone who opposes the mosque are hatemongers, racist, and islamaphobic.”

Sara, you don’t know much about Pamela Geller, do you? She is the Islamaphobe who started this mess with Park 51. You need to get a grip on the !st Amendment: see http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/08/beck-breitbarts-his-own-words-out-of.html for a Libertarian’s perspective on this.

sarainitaly said:
There are many Muslims who oppose the mosque being built there, and have expressed similar points of views as mine. The cabbie who was just stabbed opposes the building, as well. Daniel Pearl’s father and families of 9/11 victims oppose it being built, are they all hatemongering islmaphobes?

The Left are the ones guilty of hatemongering and insensitivity by declaring anyone who opposes the mosque are hatemongers, racist, and islamaphobic. It is hysterical hatred from the left. something we see over and over again.

i am logging off, and making dinner, so this is shorter than i wanted, but oh well.

People who oppose the mosque (community center) for sensitivity reasons are not hatemongers, they are very much myopic and not really seeing the whole historic picture. But I do believe those who say they shouldn’t build here because they are conquering lands and lumping all Islam into terrorism is hatemongering. No, that’s wrong, it’s fearmongering. Unfounded fearmongering. I disagree with the entire debate, and it will be a blot on this country’s history, right up there with opposition of civil rights and McCarthyism. People using fear to relinquish our rights. That will last longer than any insensitivity. And I care about the notion of America so much that I don’t want that blot on our record. And just by saying one side is saying you are hatemongerings makes them hatemongerers doesn’t lessen the hate from either side. The hate and the fear is there, and we are sitting within a tight window so we can’t see it. But others will see it. Particularly our grandchildren reading history books.

Also, sorry for bringing up the other points not being answered, but I just didn’t read this part when I was posting.

Have a lovely dinner. (sincere, not being sarcastic).

“Libra blue, if you don’t think that the lion’s share of racists in this country are on the right and a large part of the Republican base, then you need to think again.”

Wow, now that’s a statement. Do you write for olberdork? Can you please back that up. It’s that type of rhetoric that just blows any credibility out of the water.
And can you help me again about the Conservatives and institutional slavery in respect to the Civil Rights Act?

I have to laugh at how very little the liberal nut-bags on this blog know about MLK which hearkens back to a previous post that Mediaite has become nothing more than Newsvine. It also has to burn your asses that Dr Alveda King is a keynote at the event and said that black liberal leaders have perverted Dr. King and he would have attended Beck’s rally. Oh November can’t come fast enough, get used to nuts in your face liberals because it is coming.

Have a nice dinner, Perma. Cheers.

gordonbloyershow said:
Sorry GBR, there is no such thing as a lie of omission. Try again.When global warming nuts say that there is scientific consenses that is a lie. When the media report that lie as though it is fact that is a lie. They also omit all the scientists that say there is no consenses, that by your standard would be a lie of omission. It is not, it is liberal bias. The problem with you ignorant leftists is that you think that what you believe is the truth and anything that proves you wrong is a lie. Fox does not lie they just report the truth that you don’t believe. When they leave out what you believe that is a lie. Sorry pal, you can’t fool anybody anymore.

You mean for 2,000 years we’ve been asking God to forgive us for things said which ought not have been said, things left unsaid which ought to have been said, things done which ought not have been done, things left undone which ought to have been done when Marceaux, I mean Blower says one cannot lie by omission. How did God get this so wrong, and Marceaux, I mean Blower, get it right?

Keep the pot boiling and turn up the heat,
If there be murder, assault or riot ,
What of it, that’s simply our fans red meat ,
Of course, it’s not news, but they’ll still buy it.

sarainitaly said:
i am logging off, and making dinner, so this is shorter than i wanted, but oh well.

For which we are immensely thankful.

Keep the pot boiling and turn up the heat,
If there be murder, assault or riot ,
What of it, that’s simply our fans red meat ,
Of course, it’s not news, but they’ll still buy it.

I love Alveda. The late doctor would be proud of her standing up for Americans, regardless of race or party. Character, character, character.

Gee, that’s big of you, GBR. Calling out the Black Panthers as racist. What pushed you over the edge? The video of that Panther saying he wanted to kill white babies? But wait a minute. That video was on Fox, so it must have been a lie. That means the Panthers aren’t racist. These left wing political correctness rules are hard to pin down.

GlennBeckReview said:
gordonbloyershow says: “One day has passed. I am waiting for the Fox News haters to list the lies from yesterdays broadcasts.” I did this where you posed that question yesterday Gordon. It was the lie of omission when they told who was funding Fauf. But they didn’t say that the same guy is the second largest stock holder of NewsCorp. That is a lie of omission. Gordon, sign up for the Media Matters for American newsletter. They are constantly pointing out Fox’s lies. You’re not going to hear it from Media Research Center or News Busters. They don’t give a damn about right wing deceit or bias.

A most significant lie to be sure. I just posted enough lies of commission on the ratings thread to choke a horse, and the horse hasn’t even seen the bottom of the feed bucket.

Keep the pot boiling and turn up the heat,
If there be murder, assault or riot ,
What of it, that’s simply our fans red meat ,
Of course, it’s not news, but they’ll still buy it.

It’s funny seeing you people trying to justify a non-existent connection between Beck and MLK. You honestly believe that Beck represents this man’s beliefs. It’s laughable and pathetic simultaneously.

@TheGlennBeckReview, “Libra blue, if you don’t think that the lion’s share of racists in this country are on the right and a large part of the Republican base, then you need to think again.”

I guess if you said it it must be true, but tell me where is your data to back that up? Maybe it is just because those on the left are closet racists. Let’s not forget that the “first black president” Bill Clinton was labeled a racist by the left because he dared to speak the truth about Obama.

TeaBagALibby said:
I have to laugh at how very little the liberal nut-bags on this blog know about MLK which hearkens back to a previous post that Mediaite has become nothing more than Newsvine. It also has to burn your asses that Dr Alveda King is a keynote at the event and said that black liberal leaders have perverted Dr. King and he would have attended Beck’s rally. Oh November can’t come fast enough, get used to nuts in your face liberals because it is coming.

It’s funny b/c you’re obviously evincing how little you know of the man.

On another thread, the King said I was lying about something he’d said, and the post containing his words was just a couple of posts above mine for all to see. I even quoted him and the time of his post, and he still said I was lying. Not much you can do with a ‘mind’ like the King’s.

paulmdoro said:
Kind of like how Hoover’s FBI thought he was a Communist in the ’60s?

He was a Communist.

MLK, though he knew it has its flaws, loved this country. Beck laments about his love for this country to the point of tears. MLK believed in the rights granted by us by our Creator. Beck talks about God, again, to the point of tears. Both believe that character counts, not the color of your skin. I fail to see how they differ. But I fail at lots of things.

ImJustThatDamnGood said:
Evidence please

based on your lies yesterday, I need to provide none in that it is self-evident!

paulmdoro said:
. I’m sure your mom would be happy to help you.

LOL

Now you are so low you resort to mom jokes.

Pitiful as you are!

michiganruth said:
”social justice” is a code word for the leftist creed of equal OUTCOMES, which is the exact opposite of equal OPPORTUNITY, which is what MLK fought and died for.

No. Social Justice is too old to be a ‘leftist code word’. Social Justice refers to the development of an egalitarian institution based on equality and the recognized dignity of every human being. That is what MLK fought and died for. King was one of the strongest advocates for Social Justice. Civil Rights is part of Social Justice.

Social Justice argues for equal opportunity. It does not necessarily mean ‘equal outcomes’, something that I, as a liberal, recognize as largely impossible.

Social Justice was originally based off of the teachings of Thomas Aquinas. It is a major tenant for many denominations of Christianity, such as Catholicism and Methodism.

MLK fought and died for Social Justice. Beck lambasted Social Justice. I have no problem with Beck’s speech or the location, I just find it strange that a man who advocates against the very thing King advocated for the most would think to ‘honor’ him for helping achieve a goal of Social Justice.

http://www.cesj.org/thirdway/economicjustice-defined.htm

Comments?

This guy is so sanctimonious.

I can’t wait!!! I’m getting excited, it’s gonna be quite a show. :-)

Stephen, you call yourself a liberal. You seem more moderate to me, for which I commend you. True what you said about social justice. The only person against social justice is one who is against equal opportunity. But, like feminism, the term has been hijacked by certain people who know how to use it to make a buck. Too often when one hears the term “social justice,” many hear, “Get even with Whitey.” I like your classical interpretation though. Thomas Aquinas was an interesting thinker.

writer said:
On another thread, the King said I was lying about something he’d said, and the post containing his words was just a couple of posts above mine for all to see. I even quoted him and the time of his post, and he still said I was lying. Not much you can do with a ‘mind’ like the King’s.

Are you Il Douchey?

Keep the pot boiling and turn up the heat,
If there be murder, assault or riot ,
What of it, that’s simply our fans red meat ,
Of course, it’s not news, but they’ll still buy it.

It doesn’t matter whether you think they “conquered” on 9/11, the terrorists do. They brought our travel industry to a grounding halt. They brought companies to their knees. They wiped out three buildings. They killed 3000 people. Brought down the market, insurance companies and more. If you don’t think they consider that a conquest you are fooling yourself.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/conquered There is more than one meaning to conquest.

Answer this – Why do you think this mosque was originally going to be called Cordoba House? – the first Cordoba mosque was built upon the ruins of a Christian church in the Spanish city of Cordoba after the Muslim conquest of Christian Spain in the 8th century AD.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2462

OK, outta here for good. Time to watch a movie. Nice chit chat. :O) I will check back later for your answer on the Cordoba House.

Stephen Hogan said:
Social Justice was originally based off of the teachings of Thomas Aquinas. It is a major tenant for many denominations of Christianity, such as Catholicism and Methodism.

A man who knows St. Thomas Aquinas. At Mediaite! This is wonderful.

I bet you even know a bit of Hegel.

Keep the pot boiling and turn up the heat,
If there be murder, assault or riot ,
What of it, that’s simply our fans red meat ,
Of course, it’s not news, but they’ll still buy it.

The King knows St. Thomas personally. He’s in the next room at the ‘facility’.

sarainitaly said:
It doesn’t matter whether you think they “conquered” on 9/11, the terrorists do. They brought our travel industry to a grounding halt. They brought companies to their knees. They wiped out three buildings. They killed 3000 people. Brought down the market, insurance companies and more. If you don’t think they consider that a conquest you are fooling yourself. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/conquered There is more than one meaning to conquest. Answer this – Why do you think this mosque was originally going to be called Cordoba House? – the first Cordoba mosque was built upon the ruins of a Christian church in the Spanish city of Cordoba after the Muslim conquest of Christian Spain in the 8th century AD. http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2462 OK, outta here for good. Time to watch a movie. Nice chit chat. :O) I will check back later for your answer on the Cordoba House.

Why are you so insistent on trying to prove, so obsessed with proving that America was conquered? Do you have any notion at all how utterly sick that is? Are you just trying to avoid admitting you made an utterly bone-headed remark, or do you take some sadistic pleasure in America being defeated and subjugated? I don’t get this at all, but I do find it revolting. I suspect others do as well.

Keep the pot boiling and turn up the heat,
If there be murder, assault or riot ,
What of it, that’s simply our fans red meat ,
Of course, it’s not news, but they’ll still buy it.

sarainitaly said:
It doesn’t matter whether you think they “conquered” on 9/11, the terrorists do.

I honestly don’t care what they think in that regard.

sarainitaly said:
Answer this – Why do you think this mosque was originally going to be called Cordoba House? – the first Cordoba mosque was built upon the ruins of a Christian church in the Spanish city of Cordoba after the Muslim conquest of Christian Spain in the 8th century AD.

That might be. But it is also just as likely that they are alluding to the traditional view of Cordoba as a location of religious tolerance between the faiths of Abraham. Granted, I realize that that tolerance only extended so far but still, I find that to be a more honest explanation for the name.

sarainitaly said:
OK, outta here for good. Time to watch a movie. Nice chit chat. :O

Have fun and I enjoyed the chat :)

NORBIT the Rev Al support a scared child who was cover up abuse from some one else—redemption is needed for the child and the Rev Al had nothing to do with the childs misdirection Rev Al is responsible for saving her soul and needs to stands by her that is what a true minister is for—remember—may you were not raised with reason and direction toward the greater good—save the child

The Real Royal King said:
I bet you even know a bit of Hegel.

Why, yes I do. However, I tend to have disagreements with his specific dialectical idealism. I might have too much existentialist in me :)

writer said:
The King knows St. Thomas personally. He’s in the next room at the ‘facility’.

I can’t say I much care what you say about me, but to disparage a great man, a great mind, a great theologian, who wrote the hymn below is unconscionable. St. Thomas Aquinas may have been the Man of the Preceding Millenium. Why in the world would you be so flip about him?

Humbly I adore thee,
Verity unseen,
who thy glory hidest
‘neath these shadows mean;
lo, to thee surrendered,
my whole heart is bowed,
tranced as it beholds thee,
shrined within the cloud.

Taste and touch and vision
to discern thee fail;
faith, that comes by hearing,
pierces through the veil.
I believe whate’er
the Son of God hath told;
what the Truth hath spoken,
that for truth I hold.

O memorial wondrous
of the Lord’s own death;
living Bread that givest all
they creatures breath,
grant my spirit ever by
thy life may live,
to my taste thy sweetness
never failing give.

Jesus, whom now hidden,
I by faith behold,
what my soul doth long for,
that thy word foretold;
face to face thy splendor,
I at last shall see,
in the glorious vision,
blessed Lord, of thee.

“Sharpton when his hate stirring ended up getting people killed”…notsofast says: ANOTHER LIE CREATED TO JUSTIFY YOUR HATE—THE LIGHT IS ON—YOUR RULE IS OVER SOMETHING EVIL HAD COME YOUR WAY DISMISS OR GET THAT CURSE REVERSE

Tony the Fist said:
Stephen, you call yourself a liberal. You seem more moderate to me, for which I commend you. True what you said about social justice. The only person against social justice is one who is against equal opportunity. But, like feminism, the term has been hijacked by certain people who know how to use it to make a buck. Too often when one hears the term “social justice,” many hear, “Get even with Whitey.” I like your classical interpretation though. Thomas Aquinas was an interesting thinker.

Agreed :)

I am quite liberal, by the way. I think that my pragmatism might make me appear more moderate.

I guess the med cart hasn’t come around yet, King. Wasn’t really talking about St. Thomas at all. Just saying your fellow ‘guest’ in the next room thinks he’s St. Thomas. Just like you delude yourself that you’re sane.

Stephen Hogan said:
Why, yes I do. However, I tend to have disagreements with his specific dialectical idealism. I might have too much existentialist in me :)

I agree completely. And, I think Hegel’s concept of time in relation to God’s saving grace in the world is methodologically suspect. I tend to think he began at the point he wanted to end and worked backward. Still, his analytical processes are breathtaking to me. By contrast, Kirkegaard appeals to my own sense of time, place and purpose much more deeply, but I’d like a better defined framework to get into him.

Have you ever read “Huis Clos”? I always think the Beckerhead would benefit from an understanding of this text.

(Sorry for the diversion folks. I know I’m off topic.)

I wonder what God thinks about someone who looks down on ‘cracker kids’ or mocks people who live in trailers? Since the King does these things, God must be all for it.

writer says: take your hand and slap that face then take your hands and remove that shi* —THERE USE TO BE A TIME WHEN WE BLACK PEOPLE HANDLED OUR OWN JUSTICE BECAUSE NONE EXISTED—THE DIFFERENCE TODAY WE CANNOT FOR OUR OWN JUSTICE AND JUSTICE DOES NOT EXIST FOR MOST BLACK AMERICANS—COLEMAN IS THE WORSE OF WHAT THIS PLANET HAD TO OFFER THE WORLD HIS EVIL IS NO A PLACE WHERE HE DOES NOT DESIRE—THE HELL THAT IS NEEDED FOR THIS MAN CANNOT GET MORE HOTTER THAN THE ONE THAT COLEMAN TRULY NEEDED—AS A BLACK WOMAN THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE WORSE OF HUMANITY JUST BECAUSE HIS COLOR IS BLACK HOWEVER I HAVE JUST PLACED YOU IN THE PLACE THAT I WANT COLEMAN BOTH OF YOU CAN MAKE LOVE TO YOUR EVIL AND LEAVE THE ADVANCED HUMANS TO PROGRESS UPWARD—FOOLISH STATEMENT YOU MADE THAT BLACK PEOPLE LOVE EVIL WHEN THE MOST EVIL HAS BEEN IN THE MEDIA WITH YOUR FACE AND IS EMBARRASSING THIS NATION TOWARD THE WORLD—SLAP YOU FACE REAL HARD YOU ARE NOT NOT IN ENOUGH PAIN

Al Sharpton is a “Race Baiting” Poverty Pimp! FROM JIMBOB—JIMBOB ONLY THOSE WHO ARE INTO INBREEDING WILL CONSIDER THE REV AL IN THE WORSE OF THOUGHTS THAT YOU JUST GIVEN A INNOCENT—THE SAME SPEECH WAS SAID OF MARTIN LUTHER KING AND HIS DEATH HAS LEFT THIS NATION IN PAIN TOO LONG—ENOUGH WITH THAT BULL SHI* RANT OF POOR BRAIN WAVES TO WEAK TO COMPLETE A THOUGHT WORTHY OF THIS CHALLENGE—THE CHALLENGE TO BE AN ADVANCED HUMAN

gotto, I think you’re quoting someone else. I didn’t say that. Nice use of caps, though.

Penguin says: EASY KNOW A CONSERVATIVE ASK HIM TO IDENTIFY AN AFRICAN AMERICAN WHEN THAT CONSERVATIVE DOES NOT SAY AMERICAN FIRST —THAT IS A BIGOT—IF THAT CONSERVATIVE IS IN THE AUTHORITY OF ECONOMIC, POLITICS, SOCIAL AND CULTURAL CONTROL THEN THAT IS A RACIST PIECE OF WASTE OF FLESH POSING AS A HUMAN—NOW GO TO A MIRROR AND LOOK AT YOUR SELF HOW CLOSE AM I—TO YOU

YEAH i am pisssssed!

The Real Royal King said:
Have you ever read “Huis Clos”? I always think the Beckerhead would benefit from an understanding of this text.

Indeed, I have. A perfect example of the master-slave dialectic without mutual reciprocity. Beck has frequently seemed Garcin-like to me, to be quite honest.

RRK I didn’t know God was talking about the news business. I think He was talking about you.

So in other words you can not come up with one lie on Fox News yesterday?

No RRK you are not off subject, you are just OFF. Far off. Just remember Santa is coming to town and he can hear you when you are sleeping and he can hear you when you are awake and he can tell when you been bad or good. So this year you are gonna come up empty. Even the tooth fairey won’t leave you a dime.

gordonbloyershow said:
RRK I didn’t know God was talking about the news business. I think He was talking about you. So in other words you can not come up with one lie on Fox News yesterday? No RRK you are not off subject, you are just OFF. Far off. Just remember Santa is coming to town and he can hear you when you are sleeping and he can hear you when you are awake and he can tell when you been bad or good. So this year you are gonna come up empty. Even the tooth fairey won’t leave you a dime.

Do Megyn Kelly and Greg Jarret do news or commentary?

Keep the pot boiling and turn up the heat,
If there be murder, assault or riot ,
What of it, that’s simply our fans red meat ,
Of course, it’s not news, but they’ll still buy it.

Penguin60 said:
http://www.cesj.org/thirdway/economicjustice-defined.htm Comments?

Social justice is a farce; the only TRUE justice is justice applied to the individual. If justice is denied to ONE individual, then there is no justice. A similar case is to consider the farce of collective salvation; salvation is applied by God to individuals. If God should withold salvation from one repentent individual because of the acts of others, then God’s word would not be true.

Addendum: I am responsible ONLY for my actions. Are you responsible for the acts of anyone other than yourself?

pyrope said:
If justice is denied to ONE individual, then there is no justice.

That is exactly what advocates for Social Justice believe, hence the focus on egalitarianism.

Its getting late you right wing Morans, time to get ready for BECKAPALOOZA, now don’t forget your be scared of the black people subway map and the beck said don’t bring signs (so the TV won’t catch what you’re thinking) and above all else don’t forget the egg salad sandwhches!

Until Al Sharpeton apologizes for his lies regarding the Tawana Brawley affair, he has no right to criticize anyone regarding honor or integrity. He traded his honor and integrity for political notoriety in 1987.

Oh asshat khan just get on the beckapalooza subway and don’t forget to get off at 4th and H NE

One of Washington’s principal supporters of the Tea Party movement, former GOP Majority Leader Dick Armey’s FreedomWorks, has been receiving death threats and profanity-laced phone calls as it gets involved in the fall elections. The number and intensity have reached such heights that the organization is leaving its downtown location near the FBI and moving to a high-security building near the U.S. Capitol.

“FreedomWorks and Dick Armey receive dozens of threatening and harassing calls and E-mails each day. Many imply violence and use of weapons,” spokesman Adam Brandon tells Whispers. “As we get closer to the election we expect the harassment to increase.”

http://politics.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2010/08/25/tea-party-group-hit-with-death-threats

I know that Al Sharpton’s illustrious career as a race-baiting, lying, slandering violence-inciting hack has already been referenced; but I’d just like to add for good measure: “white interlopers,” “diamond merchants” and “yes, I could be very interested in a cocaine deal.”

Iris said:
Its getting late you right wing Morans, time to get ready for BECKAPALOOZA, now don’t forget your be scared of the black people subway map and the beck said don’t bring signs (so the TV won’t catch what you’re thinking) and above all else don’t forget the egg salad sandwhches!

It’s sensible to be at least a little scared of black people. Black males at least. They’re only 6% of the population, but they commit half the violent crime. So, ironically, you’ve given sound advice.

Sean68 said:
It’s sensible to be at least a little scared of black people. Black males at least. They’re only 6% of the population, but they commit half the violent crime. So, ironically, you’ve given sound advice.

Given the context of your insinuation, I should amend: In DC they commit 95% of the violent crime.

I noticed that most of GBR’s post have only 1 thumbs up… I think he’s voting for himself. There was one with 2 thumbs up. I think that one was Ed Schultz or was it Keith Obiteme.

How suprising considering the entire population of DC is 86% black you scared of black people morAn Sean crybaby

Iris said:
How suprising considering the entire population of DC is 86% black you scared of black people morAn Sean crybaby

Ouch, you called me a moran.

Sean68 said:
Ouch, you called me a moran.

Oh, and as to the “substance” of your post:

86% black? Let me recalculate my figures: 99% of all violent crime. Thank you.

So crybaby sean you better be careful at BECKAPALOOZA ooooo you’ll be peeing your pants with the scary black people alll around there and you know you can only carry so many clean panties to change into

Iris said:
So crybaby sean you better be careful at BECKAPALOOZA ooooo you’ll be peeing your pants with the scary black people alll around there and you know you can only carry so many clean panties to change into

As Churchill once observed, how exhilerating it is to be shot at and missed.

Sean68 said:
As Churchill once observed, how exhilerating it is to be shot at and missed.

I should rephrase in terminology you’ll be more familiar with: Shut up, ho!

Penguin60 said:
Yeah, there’s another re-writing of history. Tell me, how did the Civil Rights Act get passed????

Your rhetoric is just as bad as the “right wing nuts” you loathe.

Note: “Southern” refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. “Northern” refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.
The original House version:
Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7%–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0%–100%)
Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%–15%)
The Senate version:
Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5%–95%)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0%–100%)
Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%–2%)
Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%–16%)

I won’t get into an argument over semantics here, whether you are “re-writing history” or just misinterpreting it is not central to my point, which is as follows:

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed by a large majority of congress with votes coming in from both parties, the only demographic dissenting as a whole being the “Dixie-Crat” element of the Democratic party. Thankfully, that element is no longer a strong voice in either party. To compare what happened in congress along party lines in 1964 to today’s political parties is erroneous. Neither party represents entirely today what they considered the foundations of their platform then.

Sean68 you keep quoting yourself or you are just talking to yourself. Hey everybody, Sean68 needs a friend. He doesn’t having anyone to talk too.

Glenn Beck TOLD HIS ARROGANT AND IGNORANT CROWD OF IN-BREEDERS NOT TALK TO BLACK PEOPLE SO WHAT IN HONOR DOES GLENN BECK THINK HE IS MAKING ON MLK HISTORICAL MARCH WHAT—WHITE PEOPLE MAY WANT THEIR DAUGHTERS TO MARRY A BLACK MAN AND DEAL WITH THE CURLY HAIR AND THE FACT THEY DO NOT AGE AS FAST—WHAT DOES THIS GLEN BECK FEAR—HE COMING TO CHOCOLATE CITY AND EXPECT A SOULFUL RECEPTION—ONLY FROM THE SOUNDS OF REV AL’S CHOIR FLOATING THROUGH THE WIND–i CANNOT STAND THIS FOOL—SORRY BUT WE CAN NO LONGER IGNORE THE RACIST RANTS OF FOOLS AGAINST GOD ANYMORE I WANT THIS CURSE TO END AND END NOW

WE WOULD F THIS COUNTRY IF WE ALLOW THE REPUBLICANS TO COME BACK ON THE HILL—PLEASE THE AMERICA WE WANT WILL BE STRONG DIVERSE AND GREAT AND ENVIED ALL OVER THE WORLD –A NATION UNDER THE STRICT AUTHORITY OF GOD—ABORTION CAN BE AGAIN BE ILLEGAL— IF WE WALK THE PATH OF TOLERANCE—WOMEN ARE KILLING BABIES BECAUSE OF ECONOMICS NOT THE FACT THAT MAMA WON’T LIKE THE BABY—ABORTION IS DONE BASED ON THIS FACT MAMA CANNOT AFFORD THE BABY—SINCE THE INTRODUCTION OF ABORTION MORE ABORTIONS WERE DONE UNDER THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DOMINATION ON THE HILL—WE HAVE NOT RELAXED SINCE REAGAN’S ATTACKED AGAINST LABOR AND LIED AND ENTERED AN AGREEMENT WITH WHO IS NOW OUR ARCH ENEMY IRAN AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BY THE SALE OF DANGEROUS DRUGS TO THE DISENFRANCHISED—OUT OF THAT NOW THE BORDER IS RACK WITH VIOLENCE THAT WAS STARTED BY THE REAGAN BUSH ADMINISTRATION—HOW FOOLISH OF NATION WOULD WE BE TO SUPPORT A GROUP WHO WOULD APOLOGIZED TO A COMPANY THAT CAUSED THE DESTRUCTION OF LIFE OFF THE SHORES OF OUR NATION—ENOUGH IS ENOUGH–WAKE UP AMERICA MOVE AWAY FROM THIS CURSE OR STOP THIS CURSE AND SAY NO MORE AND IT IS DONE

Democrats ar IMPLODING!

Here we are trying to prolong the mosque issue, because it’s such a downer for the Dems…and out of the blue! – ED SHULTZ IS BURNING DOWN NBC!!!

- during the “Summer of Recovery”!!

C’mon, is Seinfeld really writing this stuff as some bizzare political reality show??

GOP should try just staying out of the way!

Aw crybaby sean got upset cause somebody knows he pisses his pants in fear when he sees black people, have fun at beckapalooza!

Sean68 said:
It’s sensible to be at least a little scared of black people. Black males at least. They’re only 6% of the population, but they commit half the violent crime. So, ironically, you’ve given sound advice.

On the other hand, as for the big crimes, the real big crimes, non-”violent”, you look to the white man. And the pirannas, the middle men, draining companies, are mostly white men, as another group of white men argue that private enterprise is ever so more efficient than government bureaucrats. And rah rah regulation must go. Like shouting in a fraternity house. Seriously, that is how it is, trust me. I’m never wrong on these things.

gottosay said:
SORRY BUT WE CAN NO LONGER IGNORE THE RACIST RANTS OF FOOLS

WOMEN ARE KILLING BABIES BECAUSE OF ECONOMICS NOT THE FACT THAT MAMA WON’T LIKE THE BABY

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH–WAKE UP AMERICA MOVE AWAY FROM THIS CURSE

gottosay…listen to me gottosay…you are suffering from an incurable disease…it is called the “ID 10 T” disease….you have terminal case!

GlennBeckReview said:
libra blue says: “Never, as long as there are bleeding heart liberals.” Right! Leave it to the mean spirited reactionary/conservatives, and we’d still have institutional slavery! There is still loads of racism. Sometimes it’s explicit; sometimes it’s implicit. The latter is underneath your comment “libra blue.”

You might want to check this link.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/12/opinion/12nichols.html

Al. Sharpton never ceases to amaze me. He is the most arrogant, hate monger that exists. He is a nobody, just a loud mouth speaking his same ole, same ole, always there to oppose something that will further divide the races. Jesse Jackson & all of these racists have been causing heartaches for the whites for years, one wrong word, BAM, a man loses his job that he has worked at for years, is usually disparaged by leftist TV anchors & as one anchor commented “He has disgraced himself”..WHAT?, for a slip of the tongue, or a remark taken out of contest? How sensitive the blacks are when, as you read above, they have the highest crime rate, receive big paychecks with little education, JUST because they are black & are ready to pounce on anything that will build them up and break down the white population. Do these people think we’re stupid or are they just so angry at our “whiteness” that they will continue to torture us until death. Glenn Beck, I love you, thank God you are not like Al Sharpton, you are NOT racist, you are fair to all parties and the ONLY one that is trying to restore a semblance of honor to this country. The Lincoln Memorial is not owned by any one group and, of course, King should be honored but, I think he would be ashamed at all the opportunists that are using this race baiting under his “good” name. If he were alive, I truly do not believe he would have gone in this direction, as the Al Sharptons’ & Jesse Jacksons’ in our country. He was a man of peace and these arguments only cause a divide. When I heard Sharpton state that the reason they must show their support at the monument is because of the “inequality” that still exists, it made my blood boil…what inequality..I think its the other way around. White people try to be fair, we walk a tightrope attempting to keep the blacks happy, don’t insult them, don’t ignore them, don’t say something that might sound discriminatory, don’t call them black, dark, light skinned black…WHAT do we call a person who is not of our color or nationality..Hey….you!!! We call Germans, German, Italians, Italian…please this is getting ridiculous. Even the media can’t describe a murderer if he is black, so how can they expect the public to look for this man? Make sense! This sensitivity towards color is separating the races more & more. It is not the color of your skin, it is WHAT you are, the person you are, stop trying so hard to be white & accept how God has created you, nobody cares what you look like, just be kind and STOP COMPLAINING! Please be kind to each other at that rally, we just want to live in peace..besides we have enough to worry about with the situation in New York City. (Oh, & by the way, the young man who tried to kill the muslim cab driver was….CHINESE)! In Martin Luther’s name, have peace!

we at 300 yet? let’s gooooooo keep it moving

Sharpton getting free press for this, cool. Wonder how many media peeps gonna be there.

I hope they talk about climate change cause I haven’t heard enough about how SUMMER IS HOT and it rains in the summer.

GlennBeckReview says:
August 26, 2010 at 2:09 pm
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sarainitaly says: “The Left are the ones guilty of hatemongering and insensitivity by declaring anyone who opposes the mosque are hatemongers, racist, and islamaphobic.”

Sara, you don’t know much about Pamela Geller, do you? She is the Islamaphobe who started this mess with Park 51. You need to get a grip on the !st Amendment: see http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/08/beck-breitbarts-his-own-words-out-of.html for a Libertarian’s perspective on this.

People shouldn’t view the actions/intentions of a few hundred/thousands of Muslim extremists as a broader statement against all Muslims.

But…you consider Pamela Geller an Islamaphobe hatemonger, and therefore anyone who opposes the Mosque is just like her – an Islamaphobe hatemonger?

Is that right?

Stephen Hogan says:
August 26, 2010 at 3:21 pm (Quote)

I honestly don’t care what they think in that regard.- But the Ground Zero mosque will be used by them, in exactly that manner – as a symbol of their accomplishment on 9/11. Personally, that bothers me – giving them a monument in which to point to as a celebration of their attack – a symbol that they conquered at ground zero.

Bottom line, in my opinion, if this is truly meant to be a bridge to mend fences and all that, then they would not hesitate to move it, to respect the feelings of the 9/11 families and first responders who have expressed opposition. They are objecting to even moving it one mile away…. That doesn’t reflect goodwill, to me. A compromise would go a long way, I would think, because the idea is a good one. Just not there.

alanreese said:
Note: “Southern” refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. “Northern” refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.The original House version:Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7%–93%)Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0%–100%)Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%–6%)Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%–15%)The Senate version:Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5%–95%)Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0%–100%)Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%–2%)Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%–16%) I won’t get into an argument over semantics here, whether you are “re-writing history” or just misinterpreting it is not central to my point, which is as follows: The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed by a large majority of congress with votes coming in from both parties, the only demographic dissenting as a whole being the “Dixie-Crat” element of the Democratic party. Thankfully, that element is no longer a strong voice in either party. To compare what happened in congress along party lines in 1964 to today’s political parties is erroneous. Neither party represents entirely today what they considered the foundations of their platform then.

Why do the libs love to portray themselves as the savior’s of the black population? Also I believe a recently deceased Senator that filibustered the Civil Rights Act remained quite a powerful figure in the Dem party.

Helen Nordo said:
Oh, & by the way, the young man who tried to kill the muslim cab driver was….CHINESE

No, he was white.

Stephen, I heard it on a news broadcast that he was chinese, that is the only reason I commented on it. I think the internet helps us to get a lot of anger off our chests, it doesn’t hurt anyone; however, I still think that insulting each other is useless. Look, we all have our differences but you must consider what is right and what appears wrong. Because I am white, of course, I will pick up for myself if it appears that white people are being treated unfairly. I must admit I very seldom hear white people complain so much about the blacks, it seems to be the other way around. I will cite an example that appears to have been forgotten, in 1981 a black man, Wayne Williams, intelligent from a good home, went on a killing spree, his victims were young boys..& 2 adult males. Now, we all have serial killers & we know that something is not right up there; however, the entire Atlanta population IMMEDIATELY targeted the Klan (was there still a Klan then?) The people were out in the streets shouting obscenities towards the white population, etc. Even after he was convicted, & admitted to the killings, the trouble makers & ministers, whatever kept up the rhetoric, the black news commentators lamenting the poor, unfortunate family who are being bombarded by news media..etc.He got 2 life sentences & now, some of the mothers of the murdered boys are beginning to doubt whether a black man killed their children, it HAD to be those hateful white klan members…1981 to 2001 this went on & on and to this day, they will not relent. You can bet they will find a way to get that murderer off using as his defense…you guessed it….RACISM,HATE CRIMES!! As a matter of fact the story appeared today on “American Justice”. You can check it out at AETV.com/American Justice. Atlanta Child Murders if they are still featuring it. Look, all we should have, each and every one of us is the ability to live our lives in peace, without persecution, without hate or hostility. We are on this earth for such a short time, why make our lives miserable? People like Al Sharpton like to grandstand, they enjoy causing problems, it makes him more popular with minorities but less popular with the masses. There will always be racial tension, I feel, and I truly believe that these hate groups have caused it, when you give too many people rights they don’t deserve, it creates anger & resentment among those who do not receive similar treatment. We should all be treated as equals. God Bless America & I pray that there will be no trouble at the Lincoln Memorial tomorrow. Have a nice day!

Nachi said:
“Honor”?? What honmor are these goons possibly talking about?? USA has no honor – only the honor of yesterday. Honor has been dragged deep into the sewer & left there – by the 2 BushDrunks & their minions.

If you hate this country so badly, I’m reasonably certain we could get some folks here to pony up the $$$ to buy you a one way ticket out.

Maybe we should have White lecturers reading the vast amount rhetoric of Rev.Kings speeches that he plagiarized from White writers. Would that satisfy Al Sharpten’s need for honor, and truth?

sarainitaly says: “But…you consider Pamela Geller an Islamaphobe hatemonger, and therefore anyone who opposes the Mosque is just like her – an Islamaphobe hatemonger?”

I consider Geller an Islamaphobic hatemonger, yes. No, everyone who is opposed to the Park 51 cultural center is not a hatemonger; just the people who, like Glenn Beck, use their stage to replicate this ugly, reactionary meme.

Sara, it’s not going to be a mosque unless they change their current plans. Of course, Fox doesn’t tell you that, do they?