As always, Republicans will believe precisely the opposite of the truth.

But, he’s correct.  Being a member of the lefty media in this country is about as prestigious as being a child porn distributor. 

interesting he said this whilst broadcasting under a picture that rips off the Shepard Fairey ‘Hope’ poster he derides

The Time Person of the Year has never been the Person All Americans are Supposed to Love Award.  It’s the person or group with the most influence in the world.

Only if you believe we live to serve rich parasites. How can it be remotely treasonous to protest against gamblers, Glenn?

Wait, so there is no liberal bias?

I love that petty politics have pushed the GOP to be FOR brutal Egyptian dictators.

I have seen TGaggers complaining about this selection but they fail to name someone that is deserving of this recognition.

Beck’s comments tend to suggest that there should be some censorship of the media since as he  says, “Our media is so far out of control, it’s obscene. It’s obscene. It’s damn near treasonous.”

Now the Beck zombies will take on this call to action despite the fact that he has no solutions. His goal is to fire up and mislead by inciting fear and prejudice.

Yes, how very treasonous of a magazine to say that “protestors” were the most influential group or person of 2011.  Their analysis of social, political, and cultural influence is CLEARLY equivalent to selling state secrets to the enemy, attacking your own government, and killing your own people.  Shame on them for correctly identifying the most influential group of the year!

what a moron, the time magazine person of the year isn’t given out to the “best” person but the most influential. 

You state that as if the Occupy bunch were “the person or group with the most influence in the world.”  Which they are not.  They’ve been sadly entertaining, if you like to celebrate mental and emotional illness, but that’s about it.  As to their “influence,” it’s been to dedicate themselves to unemployment and apparently to destroy the work and jobs of others.

Time magazine showed their hatred for America by putting a terrorist on the cover! 
Can you believe they did that?

O’Bummer wants protesters glorified, even when they don’t know what they want or have any ideas of how to fix it. The reason for the glorification is that he wants RIOTING to come next so he can declare Martial Law and bring in his New World Order.

If telling your opinion in the media was “treasonous” …well Beck’s head would have been hanging on a stake a long time ago.

That is all.

can you list ows accomplishments, socky?

Has-been glenn beck is gasping for attention. His latest attempt to ramp up the outrage among his dwindling flock of sheep is another huge fail. Bummer for him. More chuckling from us. 

Only to reality, uncleduke, only to reality…

It’s a long list, actually… let’s just start with “we’re talking about them, aren’t we?”

Obama has had very little to say about OWS, actually, but the right wing has certainly shared more than enough of their perverted dreams of violence and repression…

They had Hitler and Stalin as persons of the year. This is pretty mild.

LMAO

The right to protest is a human right and is supporte by the right to  freedom of assembly, freedom of association and speech.

The above statement is false to righties, especially when it is the OWS or any anti-war protests. They love big business and wars.

Poke corporatist assholes in the eye…

The administration has steered clear of OWS, except in Murdochistan where questions of absurdity are asked and spokesmodels grin at their vacuous lack of cleverness.

They have shown the police to be the fascist they are
In New York, we found there is no constitutional protection for the press
OWS has brought the discussion of who tanked the economy to the front

Glenn Beck: the most irrelevent relevent person ever.

Put aside that TIME doesn´t name the best person of the year, but the most important, significant one (clever choice this year) , Glenn Beck would have been on the streets of Boston in December 1773 and agitating against the Tea Partiers for destroying property. 

Does Beck want Time to name the first ever “Idiot Of The Year  Award/
I have a felling that he would be named #1

This moron isn’t relevant anymore. Why waste time on him?

Liberals don’t know from reality. If they did they most likely wouldn’t be liberals.

I started to agree with him on the NDAA bill but then all of sudden, like always, Glenn swerves and just crashes and burn. Beck, you tell your followers to protest, but when it’s protest that you don’t agree with it you don’t like it? Stop being a doofus. 

In that case you must be a Republican.

OWS-Obama’s Witless Stooges

another account? wow!

He was relevant enough to draw half a million people to his rally in D.C. a couple of years ago.

Are you new?! Where the hell do you come up this with the inane tripe! Maybe you should get out of the toilet, there are other rooms in the house!

Exactly – That’s why they protested two of his speeches, OWS signs and leaflets have regularly pointed out that Obama gets tons of money from the big banks, and the right wing dump of “secret” OWS email traffic was full of warnings not to let democrats try to co-opt OWS.    So yeah, that’s pretty consistent behavior with being stooges for Obama.   Carry on with your well reasoned line of thought.

Beck is just mad because these protestors have demonstrated themselves to be real Americans who actually have something he will never have and that is personal integrity.  In retrospect, this dry alcoholic mormon cultist Beck can probably snort more cocaine in 5 minutes then all the protestestors put together.  Hey Beck….do us all a favor and go back to your original calling as a baby raping child molestor.  You are irrelevant and damned ugly to look at.

Glenn Beck’s most insane outbursts would have been 1963-1965.  Can you imagine the crying, screaming on his part about the “Negro uprising” ? The feverish chalk board lines connecting it to communism, fluoridation of the water, rock music and Kennedy & LBJ ?

The main just of this article and the one in Time is not the OWS protesters but those in Libya, Egypt, Tunisia, and Syria.  3 of those governments fell. 

Did you know that in 2012 the State of the Union Address will fall on the same day as “Groundhog day” (Feb, 2)? Isn’t that an ironic juxtaposition? I mean, one involves a meaningless ritual in which we look to an insignificant creature of little intelligence for prognostications, and the other involves a Groundhog.
You just can’t make this stuff up….You do get the inherent significance of this…don’t you?

says Texan, Stonepark, Pablo… any others I am missing?

Why are you surprised? The GOP is an authoritarian top-down party.
That’s why the likes of Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Ingrahm, et. al. get paid the big bucks to spread the propaganda of the plutocracy.

They have to brainwash the masses into supporting policies that by in large do not benefit them and that’s why the handmaidens that I already mentioned never have a real debate about issues. It’s always about ridiculing and calling those who disagree with the CON-servative philosophy names, but fat, dumb and happy Americans are finally waking up to the cold reality that the American Dream never really existed.

This is a repost…

well who says the person of the year has too be good?  It should be the
one person (or persons) who had the biggest effect on the world. 

Think
about what we wouldn’t have had with out Hitler and WWII.  There would
be no cold war, there would be no Israel, the USSR would be a hell of a
lot smaller, the depression would have lasted a lot longer, the United
States and the USSR would not be super powers, the American car industry
wouldn’t have taken off in the 50′s, and there really wouldn’t have
been a space race.

Sometimes great things come from dark times.

Really?  In some sort of Protest?

Once again, you have misspelled your intention! It’s spelled = unreality!

You mean the police who evicted squatters from private property?

If you are serving them you must be employed. If that’s degrading, try it on your own. Let us know how that works out for you.

OK, how about this one: OWS=Obnoxious Worthless Slackers

No matter what the narative is, some people will just fall back on, it’s all Obama’s fault. 

ie,  I fell and scraped my knee,  it’s Obamas fault.

I failed my history exam,  it’s Obamas fault.

My favorite team lost,  it’s Obamas fault.

You get the picture.

Poor Glenn, this whole year is going to be one big taunt for him. Could it be the destruction of “babble on” is at hand?

Rephrasing a lie to fit your corrupt ideology is still a lie. Regurgitating Liberal bias without investigating the facts is nothing short of moronic.
Maybe you should start with your media control charge, and start comparing, and investigating the stated arguments on both sides. Between Liberal and Conservative, I think you will find that the Conservative view is most trustworthy of the two ideologies.

Just what influential statement did OWS achieve?

Obimbo has steered clear because he knows that supporting this type of misinformed assembly would make him look even more inept than he is already perceived!

And look who’s paying attention…

Do you actually know who your attacking, and for what reason?

Have you heard about this guy by the name of Walter Winchell who used to be really, really famous a few years ago?…..

Did you read the article?

DORK.

Wasn’t the Tea-Party attacking a government that was taxing them without representation? If that be the case, why wasn’t the OWS movement calling for Obimbo’s butt to be fired? Oh yea, the Liberal press told them it was “them”, those who don’t want to pay for anymore of Washington’s theft, and you dupes bought it!!
Than God your a minority!!

When did the truth become a waiste of time? Unless of course, your talking about the Liberal world.

Excellent!

I assume you posted on the wrong topic cause this doesn´t make any sense here.

Guilty, as charged. I love the good, old fashioned train wreck that is Glenn Beck.

Not surprising coming from Captain Chicken Little. 

I didn’t make that one up, but I got a better one after the next post, which is an original.

NO, dummy, Glenn Beck supports the current Tea Party, which is a far cry from those tools in OWS. He would have been totally supportive of the goals of the American Revolution, which he covered many times on his TV show, which you undoubtedly never watched. Why don’t you do a little research next time before you blather on about someone you know nothing about.

If someone doesn’t support your Kool-Aid propganda conspiracies,… they’re a child porn distributor. That’s a nice way to avoid facts!

The Glenn Beck rally on
the National Mall Saturday drew between 300,000 and 500,000, according
to Beck. CBS News hired a consultant with an expertise in aerial
photography and came up with a total of 87,000. Other media outlets either wussed out and just said “thousands” or came up with their own estimates, mostly in the 80,000 to 200,000 range.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/story-lab/2010/08/how_big_will_the_crowd_be_at_t.html

Why don’t you do a little research next time before you blather on
about someone you know nothing about?

The original Boston Tea Party was an angry mob of protesters, wasn’t it?  Were they evil?

Good Beckbot believing every single word the charlatan says.

I did research it, idiot. You believe whatever figures you want, I’ll stick with mine.

Influential in this case simply means they effected the world for good or bad more than others. I’ amazed they didn’t give it to the revolutionaries in egypt, libya and elsewhere as their impact seems like it will be bigger and more long term.
On the other hand OWS certainly has had a lot of attention, furthers polarized the electorate and the politicians, etc. To say they had little effect on the  US, at least, raises the question as to why they get so much attention and why so much venom is spewed discussing them. Can’t really have it both ways. The discussion and news coverage itself is an effect.

No, you are sticking with what Beck told you. You haven´t researched anything.

Pssssst, some Beckbots get very angry here when you point out that hardcore reactionary Beck would have been against the original Tea Partiers.

A good number of the protestors being honored by Time and defended by the likes of you and your friendly media have publicly stated their desire to overthrow the United States of America, its economic system and/or send those who won’t abide by their “solutions” to their deaths.

Such is more than simple “opinion.”

“You know, we all have our inner demons. I, for one – I can’t speak for
you, but I’m on the verge of moral collapse at any time.” –”The Glenn Beck Program,” Nov. 6, 2006

TIME is providing some much needed acknowledgement to the
importance of protest.  The Occupy and
Arab Spring Movements are NECESSARY for our citizens to expose the corruption
which Big Business has infected our Government with.  Every single person occupying the streets and
protesting Corporations is a hero and a patriot.  I was compelled to lend a hand and create
some new posters for the movement which you can download for free on my
artist’s blog at
http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2011/11/propaganda-for-occupy-movement.html

Why do you not put Glenn Beck to sleep – where he belongs???

Now the Beck zombies will take on this call to action despite the fact that he has no solutions. His goal is to fire up and mislead by inciting fear and prejudice.

The actions taken by Beck’s audience is to educate themselves and vote to effect change.

Claiming to have “no solutions” (though as much a lie as anything) is almost a direct quote from an OWS protest organizer regarding the activities of the occupy crowd when interviewed on MSNBC.

Regurgitating “tea” Kool-Aid bias without investigating the facts is nothing short of moronic! What would “trustworthy consist of,…. “tea” propaganda, your opinion, spin, lies, unsupported vomit? The “tea” world never facts,… just float something out there.

Nothing new. “Conservative” scum bags don’t know HOW to make sense because they have none. Just look at how many of these concerned citizens are rushing to defend glen DouchBeck.

Obama may have made only one direct reference toward the protesters. Don’t let “facts” stand in the way of your misguided hate and spin!

As always, no example, no support, no facts!

Go crawl back in your hole.  Are you being intentionally stupid or were you sadly, born that way?  You’re another one who gives Republibaggers a bad name.

Well….wow…

So I wanna congratulate you.

You have managed to be wrong,lying and fuc*** crazy in every single thing you just said.

Every single thing.

So congratulations,you really are an instant classic, crazy, dumb ass.

Happy Holidays crazy person,you really need a vacation.

Beck is too stupid to realize that Person of the Year isn’t an honor, but rather a statement of who shaped the news most in a particular year. Past recipients have included Hitler and the Ayatollah.
So even if you absurdly believe protesters are evil, calling Time ‘treasonous’ for pointing out that protests were the #1 news story of the year is just asinine.

and conservatives were practically in tears to see Gadhafi go.

you are a crazy person.

Honestly, with people like Beck and Limbaugh pushing their ideology, the GOP is literally supporting super villains.  WTF?

yet you have no problem with teabagger secessionism.

and he since lost his FOX program and is reduced to an Internet show no one watches.

Since I do not watch MSNBC much less FUX News and think independently, you still make my point.

You have no answer as to who should have been the Time Magazine person of the year?  Should I assume you have no answer since Glenn Beck didn’t give you one?

You do know that rally was largely due to the influence of Fox News? Without Fox News, no one gives a damn about him. His rally was basically a cult gathering. He never really specified how he was going to “restore honor”. According to the cultists at that rally, America lost its honor when it elected a black man as president.

Truth? We’ll let’s see Beck’s truthful statements….

1) Obama is a racist
2) Obama wants to destroy the economy so he was create a socialist utopia
3) Obama wants to be a dictator
4) Socialists are working with Radical Muslims in order to conquer the world

First of all I’m not a Beckbot. I happen to thing he’s wrong about some things. I’m defending him to you because your mind is too closed to entertain the idea that he might also be right about other things.

That last charge is so cliche and baseless that it’s not even worthy of a reply. Typical knee-jerk liberal bullshit.

Is He drinking again?

BECK: PRO-BANK, PRO-BANKERS

GOT IT

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The problem, Mr. Beck, is not that the media is out of control (except your little corner of it, which threatens to spontaneously combust at just about any moment), but that the media is entirely too much under control. This by damn-near treasonous monster-owners who lie, smear, and collude with public nutbags who are only distinguished from yourself by the fact that they actually have a fraction of power. Power to make lives miserable (and upon occasion, shorter).

So, despite its fetters, Time has taken the bold step of acknowledging that events taking place Outside The United States (gasp!) might be more signifigant than the events that take place solely inside your head.

Or worse — from your antediluvian viewpoint — that the OWS movement in the US has significantly changed the debate surrounding the abuse of wealth by the superrich and their rightwing toadies.

And is hence newsworthy.

C’mon, Glenn, get all outraged for us again. It’s your schtick, go with it. And the rest of us can hope that all that manufactured rage will turn on you, corrode your pasty little body, and shorten *your* life.

I dunno. The competition is pretty stiff.

Goundhog Day. Great movie. Not so good for making up political aphorisms, especially in the hands of a clod.

You probably could have stopped at “Beck is too stupid,” but it’s perhaps useful to note in precisely which way he’s demonstrated that this time.

Silly me. I thought that — as a dumbcluck — you’d be silent. No such luck

By any chance, have you heard rumors that there might be other countries in the world than the United States? And that things that happen in these other countries might also be meaningful?

I didn’t think so.

I missed the evidence that Beck’s fans are educating themselves. Or that they can.

In actual fact, they seem dumber than Hannity’s fans, and that’s getting pretty close to not being able to function even in a halfway house.

You’re proposing that we investigate the fact that Beck has called Time Magazine “treasonous”?

Shall we also investigate whether Newt Gingrich has called Mitt Romney rich (or was it the other way ’round?), or that most meteorologists agree that the sky is blue?

another one?

I’m an educated person and it seems you are a mere lemming.

Yes, several other people having access to the Internet share your befuddled fantasies. Ho-hum.

I expect it would be pointless trying to explain to you how OWS is a spontaneous outpouring of (mostly) emotion over conditions in the US that are profoundly unfair and threaten the continued health of our republic. Nevertheless, there it is.

And OWS has undoubtedly changed the vector of the political debate in the US in a way that will in all likelihood benefit progressives and disadvantage regressives in November next year.

It may be time for you to crawl back into that cave.

I make your point how?  By refuting that aspect I took issue with?

Putting aside your insulting manner, though your open invitation is not a requirement that others need fulfill… as to who might be a better choice? How about Mohammed Bouazizi, the shop owner from Tunisia who’s singular act of defiance in lighting himself on fire sparked the conflagration to follow in the Arab Spring (including major regional destabilization, the slaughter of tens of thousands in Libya and Syria, Lara Logan and other female reporter’s rapes when exposed to crowds of celebrants, the persecution of Egypt’s Coptic Christians, the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and other Islamist governments in several other countries, etc., etc.), Steve Jobs, who not once in his entire career graced their cover, SEAL team 6 who caught up with bin Laden in Pakistan, Gabrielle Giffords, if one were to go the victim route, George Soros, for having doubled his money in this crappy economy – including $10 made on the debt downgrade (oh, but you’re not supposed to notice what he does), Ben Bernanke, a negative, though valid choice signifying unrepresentative power for quantitative easing and floating American capital to Europe, or any of hundreds or thousands of individuals or groups of people rather than a vague, sweeping gesture towards a class of anti-western, anti-capitalist and/or useful idiot street thugs?

Yuck-yuck-yuck, that’s a good’un, Clem.

Or several thousand, in the real world. Which I could do by projecting reruns of the Partridge Family on  a sheet.

Without the sound.

Yep, fact-free belief seems to be your stock-in-trade.

There’s a shocker: OWS doesn’t support the Teepers. Who would have thunk it?

If you could provide a list of the things he’s “right” about, that might be interesting . . .

It’s called schadenfreude. Great pasttime.

Well, then, you missed the fact that at one time obscure, history-laden books written by Beck or promoted or even mentioned in passing on his show compromised a majority of those on the NYT best seller’s list.  Or that statistical data proved members of the Tea Party, those of whom Beck’s audience largely consists, are in general better educated and more successful than most groups of people as categorized by political association.

There was a shortlist. Several of the people you mentioned were on it. Just because your fave didn’t make it, don’t be bitter.

Myself, I’d have picked Jobs, for a lot of reasons, one of which is that technology he fostered had a significant impact on both the Arab Spring and OWS (although they might have a rule about being dead when the choice goes to an individual person).

So your illness manifested itself after you completed Middle School?

I tried to deconstruct and translate caco’s remark above, but all I ended up with was something like Carroll’s “Jabberwocky,” except it didn’t rhyme.

I see you don’t read very far, so I’ll help you out. How about Obnoxious Worthless Slackers?

Are you replying to anyone else today or just me?

Obviously, this was the year of the Protester – it was a worldwide phenomena and it isn’t going to go away. People have had it with the existing order in nearly every part of the world and democracy is evolving to the point where we don’t have to take the crap of the one-tenth of the 1% any longer. I almost think it’s similar to Martin Luther (not King) when he led a movement of Protesters (Protestants) who broke away from the abuses and excesses of the Catholic Church in the 16th Century.

Watching the antics of Beck and many of these rightwingers,  I can’t help but think that they have to be secret agents working for the Democrats and the Protesters. I would include some Tea Partiers in the Protester category, but they are such political neophytes that they probably don’t have a clue about what they’re really doing.  When Beck shouts “Treason” at the protesters, and when Gingrich and all the other rightwingers who crudely put down what’s happening in the Middle East and with OWS,  they are  actually encouraging and energizing millions of people to look seriously at what must be done to correct the abuses of our financial overlords and their governmental cronies.

Rightwing propaganda isn’t working as well as it use to, no matter how much money is thrown at it. it’s no mystery as to why the economy is so rotten and it isn’t all because of Obama!  And demographics are also working against the backward white people in this country who blindly follow orders from Murdoch and Limbaugh. It’s time for a change and that’s what 2012 is going to be about. We can’t go any further to the right before we truly become a fascist state.

Let’s get real. Reading Glenn Beck’s scribbles doesn’t meet anyone’s definition of “educating yourself.”

If the OWS were “a spontaneous outpouring of (mostly) emotion over conditions in the US that are profoundly unfair and threaten the continued health of our republic” it would have ‘spontaneously’ occurred a few years ago, when the bottom fell out of the economy, unemployment shot up and gobs of taxpayer monies was floated to institutions deemed “too big to fail” – and it would have focused on those making bad decisions and passing around public money, our political leadership, as much if not more than those crony socialists on the receiving end of those bad decisions.  That happened.  When the Tea Party spontaneously came into being.  Several years later, OWS is an engineered, political response to the Tea Party.

Interesting notion. “Engineered,” eh?

By whom? (And yes, I’m preparing a shot glass because I’m pretty certain you’ll trigger a round of the drinking game.)

I scroll down the list, I spot something stupid, evil, ignorant, or obnoxious, and I respond.

Couldn’t imagine why that ends up favoring you.

you have a “felling”? here’s a clue for you: when calling someone else an idiot, try to spell all your words right.

you may want to make a note of this. I have a “felling” you will forget.

Expatpatriot, having this conversation with one so committed to Beck’s every word must be put into perspective.  Beck incites his followers to extremes such as pictures of President Obama as Hitler.

Again, they do not realize how they are being exploited as this brilliant business man (Beck) laughs all the way to the bank.

even when I don’t agree with Beck (picking The Protestor was traitorous? oh please…), I still love him, because he makes you people CRAZY!

I didn’t listen to the whole thing, but in the excerpt you showed in the article he was talking about the Middle East, not OWS. Beck’s point was that the Arabs wanted freedom but instead are getting the sharia and many of them are not going to like it very much, and Christians are going to like it even less. (there’s no point talking about Jews, of course, because the Arabs have either killed or run off most of the Jews who used to live in Muslim countrties). and he’s exactly right.

come to think of it, that’s probably what upsets you–how often Beck is right.

Geez, you’re a MORON. I’m surprised that you could spell a word such as “manifested”!
Are you taking night classes to get your middle school diploma still?

The problem is that OWS has little understanding of or support for fundamental US concepts. For instance, instead of engaging others in debate they simply try to shout down their opponents.

Plus, they’re idiots who can’t even help themselves:

24ahead.com/s/occupy-wall-street

the fact that they had every news outlet in the country talking about them for an extended period of time. yeah that’s called being influential.

I dunno, I am sure you get confused with all your aliases too.

A)  Beck is yet another right wing knuckle-walker who doesn’t know the difference between treason and sedition, and
B)  Neither can or should ever be applied to the Constitutionally-guaranteed right to peacefully demonstrate and protest in a public arena.

Half a million, yeah in your dreams!

Hee hee, Glenn Beck is hilarious!

No, in actuality. That too much for you to comprehend?

And yet my and others of my kind’s deductive reasoning and elucidative skill far exceeds that which most typifies the average Beck detractor – those whose common contributions almost completely consists of canned canards or contemptuous colloquialisms crudely copied from the collective cornucopia of incurable criticism that only crass conditioning or cold coin could accrue or acquire.  Go figure.

I didn’t read the article.  I don’t particularly care for the conscientiously polarizing political devices the progressives over at Time feel they have need to resort to these days in order to generate controversy (and thus awareness) for their increasingly irrelevant left-of-center viewpoints and won’t bother discussing their story other than issue a pat condemnation or lend rhetorical support to others who do.

Hmmm, let’s start with the state of New York that has just put into law a tax on millionaires, or the conversation on income inequality… even the idiot GOP is thinking of compromising on the payroll tax holiday. BTW, what exactly has the Tea Party given us other than Washington gridlock and some really good comic relief, O’Donnell, Palin, Bachmann, for starters.  What do you smoke — I REALLY want some!

Love it. He’s soooooo pissed that the Baggers never got this.  He wants treason — how about all who signed an allegiance to a private citizen and has stood by that over their pledge to uphold the constitution of the United States.

You’re supposed to *top* the jokes, not wiggle under them.

Why do you keep giving this guy press?  If he’s too crazy for Fox, he should be too crazy for Mediaite.

Expatpatriot, having this conversation with one so committed to Beck’s every word must be put into perspective. Beck incites his followers to extremes such as pictures of President Obama as Hitler.

Again, they do not realize how they are being exploited as this brilliant business man (Beck) laughs all the way to the bank.

Oh.  You now believe Hitler mustaches on the visages of president’s faces is now an extreme act?  Good.  Cue memories of countless of such occasion, never criticized, let alone excused, with regards to past Republican presidents.  Or Gov. Scott Walker.  Or Sarah Palin.  Or Congressman Paul Ryan.  Or whoever next your side disagrees with politically.

Also, know that such with regards to Obama are carried out regularly by the Lyndon LaRouche crowd, not by who you wish it to be.

What a tired, worn out hypocrisy you chose to whip out this time.  Your circumstantial ad hominem, to intone that Beck’s argumentation is derived from a financial incentive, is boring too, BTW.

Might as well plop this here too.  You put this propagandistic crap in any other thread, ganymede?

. . .but [the Tea Party] are such political neophytes that they probably don’t have a clue about what they’re really doing.

Engineering the largest single congressional turnover in most people’s lifetime?  I know, I know.  It doesn’t compare to crapping on cop cars and raping people while trying to end capitalism, the one economic system which brings prosperity to people – even the poor (who, by comparison to the poor of non-capitalistic societies, are immeasurably better off) by, for one, so stressing communities through continual street action that they spiral towards bankruptcy and endanger a systemic collapse.

Awareness of such is one reason the current multi-decadal trend towards increasing self-identity with conservative principles – that which prevents fascism (which is a state-centric system, enabled by big government progressives) instead of feeds it – as well as the structural capability (provided by the internet) of free individuals to source information for themselves, will continue; in spite of the fevered fantasies (and disingenuous rhetoric) of aging leftist failures wedded to their backwardness.

Woooow

What are you linking to, is it your site?

I think what they’re protesting is that not enough people are able to help themselves in the New American Economy.

An element of truth you have there, but the whole truth is that most of this activism is coming from slackers and layabouts going to college on mommy and daddy’s dime, and even more so from upper-middle class white kids who’ve suddenly realized that all the beer and pizza they bought on student loan money has to be repaid. The Left, having binged out on academic and civil service and public employee career paths for the last two or three generations, have now left America bereft of anyone in the private sector actually making money from scratch. These poor young college kids protesting today, promised for years that their degree guaranteed a fabulous income, can’t simply plug themselves into the Tammany Hall/Chicago-kickback style payback system any more. They have to get a real job from a Godless Capitalist who actually creates wealth and resources, rather than a civil service and academic system that redistributes the wealth and resources of others and gives it to the youthful product of its academic re-education structure as a reward for voting Democrat.

For the rest of the “protest” movement, hey, when you figure out what you’re protesting (“everything” doesn’t count) and you decide what it is you want done about it apart from shooting 1% of the population just to make you feel better, let us all know. In the meantime, stop crapping on cop cars, living in your own funk and urine, and hobbling the productivity of those who do want to show up to work in the morning.

Oh yeah, and when you encircle a bunch of campus cops armed with huge canisters of pepper spray, and you block their exit, and you barricade a major walkway, and they tell you to move or you’ll be sprayed with pepper–uh, either move or plan to get sprayed. It’s a simple concept, but then again, that sort of classic passive-aggressive BS is the whole point. The protest isn’t what it’s all about, it’s getting that Kent State picture. And they got it and it went viral. Mission accomplished.

Stop whining, you won. And you lived to tell about it and watch yourself on YouTube. In the good old days, they would have gone at you with truncheons and attack dogs, knocked you across the street with fire hoses and water cannons. Of course, in the old days you would have been protesting Jim Crow racism, the institutional oppression of women, or the forced conscription of two generations of youth into a war that was apparently pointless and was daily shooting up some 58,000 dead American youth and shipping them back to mom and dad, friends, lovers and family in flag-draped coffins.

In summary feck your student loan. Feck your mortgage too.

Limbaugh, Beck and Hannity, to my best recollection, are not Republicans. Particularly Beck. Limbaugh rode that wave as he was coming up, but since being more or less treated like an idiot cousin by the Blue Blood core of the party, like a pet dog you bring out at a cocktail party to do a few tricks and then have the boy take him back to the kennel and out of the way for the rest of the evening, he’s tried to reinvent himself as a Tea Party populist and get a piece of that action by mocking the “Ruling Class” Republicans and calling himself a “Working Class” Conservative. Don’t know enough about Ingraham to comment but Hannity is what he calls a “registered Conservative.”

Yes, like the Muslim Brotherhood. Much better cause to support.

Why not put Gha-Kha-daffy Duck on the cover. Best damned show of the year.

How hypocritical of Glenn to be saying this, especially since he himself used to support TEA party protests (that is, before he changed his tune and claimed that the tea party was racist). Let’s prove Glenn wrong and protest the wars by downloading this song from Dec. 16-25: we can get it to #1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE30TH6Y7cI

Seems like Ron Paul is right, the GOP really hates Muslims.

Wake up and smell the 21st Century. They’re all Muslims. Ghadaffi was a Muslim. Sadat was a Muslim. Mubarak was a Muslim. The Shaw of Iran was a Muslim. Saddam Hussein was a Muslim. Osama Bin Laden was a Muslim. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a Muslim. The tyrants you claim Republicans love and the militant folk heroes you imagine to be Democrat icons of liberation are all Muslims. I think your problem is an inability to discern details finer than Republic/Democrat, Christian/Muslim.

And for the record, before Obama, the Democrat Party had no problem supporting its own litany of favorite totalitarian dictators. In fact, Obama’s preference for oppresive, stone-age, Sharia-based tyrants isn’t really a change of direction much when you think about it. It’s just that they cause a higher proportion of world and regional suffering in terms of human rights than a good-old Capitalist “Arab Trader” style dictator. At least with the latter you end up with something like a booming economy, employment, national productivity, and not all of the the money goes to build palaces and gold-plated caches of automatic weapons. Some of it goes to regular subjects, and certainly those supporting the regime. In your basic Taliban-style dictatorship, the nation devolves into primitive tribalism functioning on a stone-age economic subsistence level, women cease to exist, and most men end up having to pack a gun in service of God for free, to keep his fellow slaves in line.

And in Ron Paul’s words: What’s in it for me? Who gives a damn either way as long as I get mine? Right?

We could have Peace in Our Time if we just butt out of it all. Right?

And this is what we call bigotry folks…the GOP ladies and gentlemen.

I don’t think the Tea Party need concern itself with debating comparative levels of intelligence with any group of people who feel they are going to make the world a better place by pooping on cop cars and humping each other under tarps in public gatherings. Or, for that matter, who block a group of police officers, link arms, ignore repeated warnings, and then find themselves all shocked and alarmed that this “peaceful” protest gets them sprayed in the face from the huge pepper canisters the officers have been promising to douse them with for an hour if they do not move.

Duhh, uh never saw that commin’ duhh…

But of course they saw that coming. That was the plan, and they all whipped their Iphones and Crackberries and Droids out to get the video, posted it on YouTube, and then went back to pissing on the entrepeneurial geniuses who made that bit of technological warfare possible for them.

OK, so let’s confess: the truth is that Time is a Capitalist enterprise, they make money pandering to Leftists and deluding moderates into believing they are getting “news.” That’s their business and they’re good at it. Most print media is dead, particularly periodicals. That means “Magazines” from those of you who may have to remember that term back when they had a whole section of every public library instead of the row of overpriced MacIntoshes, that the academic conspiracy with Apple have also foisted upon nearly every public school and library system in the nation through a pact with software developers to only write educational software for the Mac.

Time thinks by putting the “protester” on the cover they will sell more copies because first, it will piss off half the nation, and second, the other half will rally to the cause because it likes pissing off half the nation too. While they pretend this is a grassroots movement with no real leaders, we all know who organizes the more structured ranks of its effort and a number of names could have been personalized under that “mask” on the cover–but then you’d have all of those not named pissed off at Time and the group leader chosen to be named.

But most of all, the only people still reading Time are aging hippies, academics, liberals and those desperate for entertainment waiting for their medical appointments. You know, the type of tedious, knee-jerk establishment “normals” who give money to PBS actually think those jackass play-pirates on “Whale Wars,” have done anything at all to hinder Japanese whaling efforts.

In any case, I haven’t seen an actual copy of the rag in years.

That was classic, you said…”For instance, instead of engaging others in debate they simply try to shout down their opponents”. Where was your dumb a$$ when the ignorant “Tea Party” members were shouting down opponents at town meetings two years ago? Don’t tell me you’ve become like the Republican party where “hypocrisy” isn’t just their motto, it’s their way of life.

Glenn Beck is a great commentator for those with shallow minds that easily swallow his fantasies.. he is truly delusional.. and if you cant see that then you should see a doctor,,.tell him you are having trouble telling the difference between fantasy and reality

And one other thing..talking will do no good when it comes to changing a system rigged against change and people whose minds are closed with hate for Obama.and all things progressive. As in the Vietnam Era only continual protests will cause Americans to turn off the soap operas and realize what the true situation in this country has become thanks to the conservative ideas that have taken root..

If you think you can engage in simple dialogue with the Obama haters just read some of the posts on this site..that ought to wake you up!

Into the street and continual protests..its the only way..

Vietnam Era Vet

What a truly delusional person you are!