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		<title>By: Eshvish</title>
		<link>http://www.mediaite.com/online/how-to-estimate-a-912-protest/#comment-7818</link>
		<dc:creator>Eshvish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, this fella has done an extensive study on the crowd estimate for this particular protest

http://deathbymedia.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/912-washington-dc-tea-party-rally-crowd-estimation/

It&#039;s mind boggling how many hours he has put into this with all the data he managed to gather with mere photos and videos. Some people just have too much time on their hands. I don&#039;t understand why his work has largely gone unnoticed. He estimates that roughly around 130k attended the protest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, this fella has done an extensive study on the crowd estimate for this particular protest</p>
<p><a href="http://deathbymedia.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/912-washington-dc-tea-party-rally-crowd-estimation/" rel="nofollow">http://deathbymedia.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/912-washington-dc-tea-party-rally-crowd-estimation/</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s mind boggling how many hours he has put into this with all the data he managed to gather with mere photos and videos. Some people just have too much time on their hands. I don&#8217;t understand why his work has largely gone unnoticed. He estimates that roughly around 130k attended the protest.</p>
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		<title>By: CaptainAmerica</title>
		<link>http://www.mediaite.com/online/how-to-estimate-a-912-protest/#comment-4442</link>
		<dc:creator>CaptainAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The media only turned on Sheehan and began to portray her as being crazy when she began pondering running for Congress and challanging on the of the MSM&#039;s favorite peeps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media only turned on Sheehan and began to portray her as being crazy when she began pondering running for Congress and challanging on the of the MSM&#8217;s favorite peeps.</p>
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		<title>By: ImNotBlue</title>
		<link>http://www.mediaite.com/online/how-to-estimate-a-912-protest/#comment-4397</link>
		<dc:creator>ImNotBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... MediaMatters points to &quot;bias in the media&quot; with evidence from ONE newspaper.  Wow.

Except for this &quot;update&quot; which perhaps you missed:

&lt;i&gt;UPDATED: Credit goes to the NYT for being consistent. In 2002, the newspaper kept its article about the massive anti-war rally off Page One. Today, it kept its article (but not photo) about the much smaller 9/12 rally off Page One.&lt;/i&gt;

But really, lets find credible news sources to quote from, please... not advocacy organizations.  They&#039;re data is not to be trusted without independent verification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; MediaMatters points to &#8220;bias in the media&#8221; with evidence from ONE newspaper.  Wow.</p>
<p>Except for this &#8220;update&#8221; which perhaps you missed:</p>
<p><i>UPDATED: Credit goes to the NYT for being consistent. In 2002, the newspaper kept its article about the massive anti-war rally off Page One. Today, it kept its article (but not photo) about the much smaller 9/12 rally off Page One.</i></p>
<p>But really, lets find credible news sources to quote from, please&#8230; not advocacy organizations.  They&#8217;re data is not to be trusted without independent verification.</p>
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		<title>By: shootfromthehip</title>
		<link>http://www.mediaite.com/online/how-to-estimate-a-912-protest/#comment-4386</link>
		<dc:creator>shootfromthehip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909130006</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909130006" rel="nofollow">http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909130006</a></p>
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		<title>By: ImNotBlue</title>
		<link>http://www.mediaite.com/online/how-to-estimate-a-912-protest/#comment-4357</link>
		<dc:creator>ImNotBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At what point did they say Shehan was &quot;crazy?&quot;  What are you talking about?!  She was a hero, and the news media camped out with her!

And the DID cover the DC rallies... that&#039;s how Susan Roesgen of CNN got in trouble.  She laughed at the &quot;Bush is Hitler&quot; signs at an anti-Bush rally, but started yelling at  a tea-party protester for the SAME THING!

Yikes, what world were you living in 8 years ago?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At what point did they say Shehan was &#8220;crazy?&#8221;  What are you talking about?!  She was a hero, and the news media camped out with her!</p>
<p>And the DID cover the DC rallies&#8230; that&#8217;s how Susan Roesgen of CNN got in trouble.  She laughed at the &#8220;Bush is Hitler&#8221; signs at an anti-Bush rally, but started yelling at  a tea-party protester for the SAME THING!</p>
<p>Yikes, what world were you living in 8 years ago?</p>
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		<title>By: shootfromthehip</title>
		<link>http://www.mediaite.com/online/how-to-estimate-a-912-protest/#comment-4352</link>
		<dc:creator>shootfromthehip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They covered Shehan only to make her the &quot;crazy&quot; face of the movement.  They never covered the actual big rallies in D.C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They covered Shehan only to make her the &#8220;crazy&#8221; face of the movement.  They never covered the actual big rallies in D.C.</p>
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		<title>By: ImNotBlue</title>
		<link>http://www.mediaite.com/online/how-to-estimate-a-912-protest/#comment-4319</link>
		<dc:creator>ImNotBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They didn&#039;t cover them?  Really?

And all this time, I had no idea Cindy Sheehan was on my television for reasons OTHER than a protest.  BTW, what&#039;s she doing now?  Oh, she&#039;s still protesting, but the MSM doesn&#039;t cover her anymore... how interesting...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They didn&#8217;t cover them?  Really?</p>
<p>And all this time, I had no idea Cindy Sheehan was on my television for reasons OTHER than a protest.  BTW, what&#8217;s she doing now?  Oh, she&#8217;s still protesting, but the MSM doesn&#8217;t cover her anymore&#8230; how interesting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: shootfromthehip</title>
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		<dc:creator>shootfromthehip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 06:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The media hardly covered any of the massive multiple anti war protests during the early part of the Iraq War.  So much for the Republican&#039;s oft repeated &quot;liberal media&quot; meme.  The MSM looked at them as nutjobs just as they look at this new (smaller) crowd of teabaggers at nutjobs, too.

And Captain America, I trust a guy who has covered protests for 20 years and actually lives in DC to estimate crowd sizes bsaed on experience and quotes from officials more than you (or those who stand to gain from inflating numbers of attendees).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media hardly covered any of the massive multiple anti war protests during the early part of the Iraq War.  So much for the Republican&#8217;s oft repeated &#8220;liberal media&#8221; meme.  The MSM looked at them as nutjobs just as they look at this new (smaller) crowd of teabaggers at nutjobs, too.</p>
<p>And Captain America, I trust a guy who has covered protests for 20 years and actually lives in DC to estimate crowd sizes bsaed on experience and quotes from officials more than you (or those who stand to gain from inflating numbers of attendees).</p>
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		<title>By: ImNotBlue</title>
		<link>http://www.mediaite.com/online/how-to-estimate-a-912-protest/#comment-4279</link>
		<dc:creator>ImNotBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait for David to send another Tweet.  By the end of the day, there will have been 6 people, and they were just lost tourists.  But then again, the guy has such a strong reputation for being wrong, why should we be surprised?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait for David to send another Tweet.  By the end of the day, there will have been 6 people, and they were just lost tourists.  But then again, the guy has such a strong reputation for being wrong, why should we be surprised?</p>
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		<title>By: CaptainAmerica</title>
		<link>http://www.mediaite.com/online/how-to-estimate-a-912-protest/#comment-4277</link>
		<dc:creator>CaptainAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The left never had a problem with making up numbers for liberals showing up on the mall.


Poor David Shuster wanted to diminish the crowd on his twitter account:

# I&#039;ve covered rallies at dc capitol for 20 years. When the crowd goes only as far as 3rd st, it is 50,000 or less.4:57 PM Sep 12th from web
    
# Freedomworks says their dc demonstration attracted 30,000 people. Park police official says that is being &quot;generous.&quot;4:31 PM Sep 12th from web 




Of course David also claims he is a journalist!   LOL   When will he realize he&#039;s no different than Cafferty or Olbermann.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The left never had a problem with making up numbers for liberals showing up on the mall.</p>
<p>Poor David Shuster wanted to diminish the crowd on his twitter account:</p>
<p># I&#8217;ve covered rallies at dc capitol for 20 years. When the crowd goes only as far as 3rd st, it is 50,000 or less.4:57 PM Sep 12th from web</p>
<p># Freedomworks says their dc demonstration attracted 30,000 people. Park police official says that is being &#8220;generous.&#8221;4:31 PM Sep 12th from web </p>
<p>Of course David also claims he is a journalist!   LOL   When will he realize he&#8217;s no different than Cafferty or Olbermann.</p>
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		<title>By: shootfromthehip</title>
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		<dc:creator>shootfromthehip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle Malkin is not a journalist.  Why anyone would believe anything she says is beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle Malkin is not a journalist.  Why anyone would believe anything she says is beyond me.</p>
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