The Media spin in high mode. The local news shows the truth that Oakland OWS ran at the cop and confronted them.

The Media seems to forget that Oakland IS A VERY EXTREME Liberal city,  yet even they had to clear up the pig sty left by the OWS.

So the MSM is trying to make this the “Kent State” moment, but they are not reporting the truth.

“Media spin is in high mode” and then go on to post a link to Breitbart’s site? Why don’t you malign Olsen by calling him anti-semitic and ‘hates his country’,

Send him back to Iraq where it is safe.

Liberals, like the writers at Mediaite, hate the police;

Here are the ‘non-violent’ Oakland protesters attacking the police.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ISXqzg99s&feature=player_embedded

Because there isn’t any proof he is… yet.  All those video cameras make it hard for Oeverything to get away with lies.

As a resident in the bay Area this is not unusual for the Oakland police after all the MURDERED with the compliance of the FBI many members of the BLACK PANTHER PARTY IN  THE 1960′S….Peaceful Demonstrations in  America can never end this way hope the people of Oakland will soundly reject the GESTAPO of the Police Department!!!!!

I feel for the police.  They are in a situation where people are attacking them and trying to get them to react.  These were NOT peaceful protesters.  They want violence.  Just a reminder that Barry and Nance fully support it and refuse to condemn their actions.  Though I’m confident Barry will say the police acted stupidly. 

It’s amazing how powerful and influential people on the right suggest that Van Jones is…he has no relevance in this situation

Looks and sounds like a flash-bang, and having used them myself in building entries I should know.

Part two is this: so what if it is? They’re non-lethal (unless you hold one to your chest or head), make a lot of noise and light, and do what they’re supposed to do – disorient and confuse your target.

What’s the complaint? The police made noise?

Further, if this kid got hit in the head by a tear gas projectile, well he and the crown he was in should have moved on when lawfully ordered to do so. He didn’t. Tear gas came. He got hit. That’s what can happen if you stand where projectiles are targeted to land.

Sound harsh? Maybe. Tough. They were in violation ans were ordered to move on. They didn’t and became aggressive.

Darwin, baby, Darwin. 

Actually Van Jones created an organization to “fight” the police in Oakland. Van Jones was a well known community organizer in the hard core Leftist community in Oakland.

Van Jones was a well known “cop hater” and sympathizer of police killer Mumia.

The Left,  including the Media, like MSM, is trying to set up the police as the villains in OWS Oakland.

One of the protesters is actually carrying a sign that says, “All of my heroes are cop killers”. 

Didn’t pope john paul “support” mumia?

Hey bonehead, Van is behind this whole “pretest”:

The Obama Media reports Van Jones
has planned an October revolution calling it an “American Autumn.”
Comparing his call to arms to the Arab Spring, Jones told Lawrence
O’Donnell of MSNBC “hold onto your hats. We’re gonna have an October
offensive to take back the American Dream and to rescue America’s middle
class.”

Beginning
last June, Jones started ramping up his latest project aimed against
the Tea Party and in true modern “professional revolutionary” fashion he
organized from his desktop.

Back
in the 1990′s Jones was the leader and founder of the radical communist
organization Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement
(STORM). STORM disbanded in 2003, and by 2007 Jones repackaged himself
when he joined the green movement. Looking more respectable, but still
Marxist he went on to become Obama’s Green Jobs Czar until he resigned
because people like Glenn Beck exposed him as a communist.

On STORM’s manifesto:

“We
agreed with Lenin’s analysis of the state and the party,” read STORM’s
manifesto. “And we found inspiration in the revolutionary strategies
developed by Third World revolutionaries like Mao Zedong and Amilcar
Cabral.”

Right, a veteran lying on his death bed and its the police that is the victim. In another country, you would be a Gaddafi supporter.

It’s funny. Neocons hate liberals and anything perceived as such so much that they forsake everything they proclaim to care about or protect, even the troops. I love it! Keep going down the drain, fellas, you’re only going to give Obama 4 more years and Dems the house back.

This Van Jones guy sounds exactly like these clowns.

Five members and associates of a Fairbanks, Alaska, right-wing militia group were arrested yesterday for allegedly plotting to kidnap or kill Alaska State Troopers and a Fairbanks judge. The five include Francis “Schaeffer” Cox, the founder and leader of the Alaska Peacemakers Militia. Cox also founded a pro-gun group and advocates armed resistance to gun control.

http://www.anchoragepress.com/news/article_fa88b41c-35ff-5061-b980-3b4cb0e0f16e.html

And don’t forget the health care bill funds abortion, Bill ayers wrote Obama’s book & liberals want to eat the rich LOL

So, neocons, tell me who’s more dangerous; Van Jones or George Soros? Oh my God, what if Van Jones and Soros are in on this together and are taking their cues from Bill Ayers? It’s the end of the world! THE CALIPHATE IS COMING!!!

By your logic, does this exempt a “troop” from prosecution for a crime, or from having to obey the lawful orders of police?

Can’t have it both ways, Lib. If he was in that crowd and got hit then so be it. His service doesn’t exempt him from the law. Not only that, the police have no way to know if he was once a “troop” or not. He was part of a mob that was throwing things at them and refusing to disperse when ordered to do so.

Spare us you sudden convenient love for the troops.

But teabaggers were peaceful, for instance Sharron Angle who called for ‘Second Amendment Remedies” or Allen West calling for attacks with Bayonets.

Prosecution of what crime? What laws did the veteran break to deserve a bullet to his head?

And we all know how right wingers love the troops till they are abroad, but once they get home, cutting their benefits is the first thing on a Republican’s mind.

Since I live in the area I know what happened.

The police were sent in by the LIBERAL city of Oakland, by the LIBERAL mayor with the support of the LIBERAL city council to clear OWS,that was increasingly becoming violent and rat infested. The police tried to clear the radical protesters and made a line. The radical protesters did not leave, but instead ENGAGED in a riot with the police.

The guy was accidentally hit by a tear gas canister…while the radical protesters were ENGAGING in a battle with the police and refusing to move after the LIBERAL city of Oakland told them they had to move.

…and he was an idiot to do so.

The prosecution to a crime comment was rhetorical. And…what bullet to the head? There was a bullet? Or is that the next liberal spin on this guy being part of a mob and getting hit by a tear gas projectile?

Engage in histrionics much?

Yeesh.

What you forgot to mention is that Oakland mayor and city council ARE LIBERALS.

You know, it’s Oakland. The cops, the Mayor, the City Council, all of them ought to just pack up and leave. Let it go feral. It’s what they want anyway. Let them have it…and fence it off from civilization.

OMG VAN JONES IS STALIN!!!!!!!! HOW COULD WE BE SO BLIND? I WON’T QUESTION ANYTHING ELSE LIMBAUGH TELLS ME FROM NOW ON. BLIND OBEDIENCE IS WHAT I’LL GIVE OL’ LIMBAUGH, AND OF COURSE I’LL KEEP LISTENING TO HIS RADIO SHOW AND BUYING HIS BOOKS SO HE CAN MAKE SOME $$$ TOO!!!!! VAN JONES IS PUTTING FLUORIDE IN OUR WATER!!!!

http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/10/25/the-truth-about-occupy-wall-street-full-episode-for-free/

Feel free to debunk anything you find to be false in that.

Or when they stomped that kid at the Sarah Palin rally or that girl at the Rand Paul event, among other attacks by the genius Teabags. 

Hey, they got a trophy and they’ll be damned if they’re not going to go on parade with it.

Donny Deutsch: Occupy Wall Street Needs A “Kent State” Moment

So first you said “Liberals, like the writers at Mediaite, hate the police;”

And then you say it’s “The police were sent in by the LIBERAL city of Oakland, by the LIBERAL mayor with the support of the LIBERAL city council to clear OWS”

Why don’t you make up your mind first, or the narrative depends on the argument you are defending.

Here’s what definitely happened: the police broke up an otherwise peaceful protest with force. In doing so, they put American citizens exercising their rights under a democracy (in the long and valued tradition of public protest) in harms way. Even worse, they seriously injured a U.S. soldier. When fellow protesters tried to help him, the police (who had not moved to aid him) threw another projectile into the crowd, risking others. They could have tried more peaceful measures, such as simply arresting the protesters one by one. The Occupy protesters are not violently resisting arrest. 

So now the police have created a situation where a viral video shows them (again) hurting protesters. Some, like you, may think that’s fine. More people will think it’s not okay, and will join the protests, which are only going to get bigger now. So a little fish in the form of Oakland police has snapped at a big fish in the form of the people siding with the protesters. 

It’s Darwin, baby. Darwin. 

So only you get to make rhetorical comments, while everything else has to be taken literally.

Gotcha.

Actually it just proves that it is Liberals who sending the police out to attack the OWS in Oakland, yet many of the Liberals on here, including the media, are trying to blame the police….put the blame where the blame lays…on the Liberals running Oakland and the Liberals attacking the police on the streets.

But moments ago you said “Liberals, like the writers at Mediaite, hate the police”.

It already is feral…no one wants to live in Oakland because it has become a Liberal infested rat’s nest because of Liberal policies.

Ooooh! Sorry about that “death bed” thing. He’s going to be fine.

War vet hurt in Oakland occupy protest improving

Olsen had spent most nights over the last few weeks at the Occupy SF camp, Shannon said.
“He’d leave work, head there, sleep there and go to work the next day,” Shannon said. “We were really against the fact that the banks and corporations were not held accountable for what they did.”

When Olsen heard that protesters at Occupy Oakland were asking for support, he took BART to Oakland and joined in the protest, Shannon said. Olsen knew he might have been arrested but didn’t seem to have any idea the demonstration would get as violent as it did, Shannon said.

So he knew they were told to get out. And he remained and resisted. In fact, he specifically went there to resist the police who were clearing the park. I thank him for his service, but this was stupid and he learned a hard lesson he should have learned in Iraq. When the authorities tell you to move, you move. If you have a problem with it, you take it to court. If you physically resist, you’re asking to get hurt.

Wishful thinking.

“The people” aren’t siding with the protesters. “The people” recognize that the protesters are mendicants who want more for free and are incapable of understanding that other people’s money will run out. “The people” aren’t the far left or their media sock puppets, as much as you would like them to be.

By the way…revolutionary jargon sucks.

So what if they were sent by Liberals, they were sent in to police the crowd and NOT USE EXCESSIVE FORCE. By your logic, murdering civilians in countries we go to war with is OK just because it was sent by a Democrat.

You are right, it is rat infested, afterall you live there.

“engaged in a riot”?

lol

for someone present that night/morning…..i beg to differ

and that oakland is LIBERAL means ?

The Catholic Church is anti-Death Penalty, not pro-cop killer.

Let Oakland burn. It needs it.

By the way, jk13…..

If I have 28 years in uniform and under arms (including the uniform of the United States Marine Corps), does that make me as qualified to express my opinion as the nitwit who got hit in the head because he was part of a mob or am automatically dismissed because you consider me a “neocon”?

Just wondering. Can’t have it both ways, lefties.

Just so we’re clear here:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/time-for-occupy-wall-street-protesters-to-show-the-police-more-respect/

How much do you charge to haunt a house, skippy?

Still going to put cellophane over your face as a Halloween mask?

so we should just do whatever the riot police tell us to, whether it has legal basis or not?

nice, little authoritarian. 

No, they were sent in to REMOVE the crowd as per the eviction notice served last week.

Apparently you didn’t see the video of protesters ATTACKING the police first. So the police are not allowed to protect themselves from crazed Marxist radicals?

Fact: What do you not understand English. When told
to dis-band and leave does that mean act like tuff guys and fight the police?
You and ACORN get what you deserve an a$$ whipping you should of got as a
child. I applaud the police and I wish they would quit holding back on the OWS
thugs!!!!

A full investigation will reveal the truth, and we all hope for he has a speedy recovery.

When a mob attacks the police, the police will have to throw tear gas and control the violence.  Otherwise, full riots and violence will ensue.   Anyone who joins these occupy groups has to realize the risks.  

The veteran knew the police were evicting the protesters and was therefore committing a criminal ct, which makes no sense with the rest of this story.   

I want to believe this story that he was innocently in the wrong place at the wrong time, but why would a veteran violate an order to not trespass?

How many TPers were arrested, sh!tforbrains?

How many TPers were arrested, sh!tforbrains?

“or that girl at the Rand Paul event”

Oh, you mean the Moveon.org activist who thrust a sign into Paul’s face?

That one?

LMAO

You compare the police who protect us against evil people and put their life on the line everyday to the Dictator Gaddafi shows me what your mind set is! I love it…

People like you are complete morons! You call the police as aggressors and when some other Obama supporter is robbing you… who do you call to help you? The brave Police officer while you lay on the street crying in a fetal position… Typical liberal wuss!

He didn’t get a bullet to the head. Making stuff up is not useful.

Fact: Wacko===> jk13 is one of yours and yes we can tell he voted for Obama and loves entitlements!!!!

The fact that someone served in the military does not exempt them from obeying the law or the police.

A FREE EPISODE OF GBTV!!!!  Thanks for the link my friend!  I’ll get around to watching it as soon as I finish banging my head against the wall, burning all of my money, throwing myself into traffic, and other more useful enterprises.

Why haven’t writers at Mediaite been following the violent rhetoric of the Oakland OWS towards the LOCAL news media not just towards the police? It was an ongoing problem at OWS Oakland and Mediaite NEVER covered how this all escalated.

Proving bias in favor of OWS

I think writing about the aggressiveness of the protesters (with some video) would be a nice addition to your article.  As of now, it reads as a demagoging liberal hit piece.

Fact: Laws were not meant for liberals!!! They love
revenue but when the law wants them to pay taxes they just deserve everyone else’s
tax money as their personal entitlement!!!!

Fact: Give all OWS a whipping and show them to respect the law!!!!

If Mediaite was honest they could easily follow how the whole incident started to turn.

There were reports from the LOCAL news media that the OWS Oakland was becoming increasingly violent and OWS threatened the local news media. (Mediaite NEVER mentioned that in the story)

Now when they are covering it, they are NOT including the part that led to this confrontation and how OWS Oakland was THREATENING people.

Instead Medaite is focusing on ONE protester who WENT DOWN TO OWS OAKLAND after the police said to clear out.

He went there to CONFRONT the police.

Fact: Here is another one!!! There all nuts!!!!!

“Let it go feral. It’s what they want anyway. Let them have it…and fence it off from civilization.”

Describing your trailer in the ‘country’?

You Righty Douche Bags are Hilarious!

I’ve had enough of you vermin for now. I’m going surfing!

Yeah, actually I do mean that one. Just because you don’t agree with her politically doesn’t mean she doesn’t have the right to protest, right? Or do you have a more fascist view?

She didn’t touch Paul, just got close enough to talk to him. And she was something like 22 years old and 100 lbs, but had some 50-something fat Teabagger hold her down and stomp on her so hard that she had a concussion and a sprained shoulder. Tell me what she did that was wrong or illegal. I’ll give you a hint: nothing. She showed up at a public venue and expressed her political view, but Teabags didn’t like that. 

It’s pathetic that you’re trying to defend their actions by saying she deserved it because she’s part of a political group you don’t like. 

Man, when I was at the Tea Parties we were constantly beaten and harassed by the cops. Oh wait, we weren’t as we were law abiding. 

So you work for Chicken Little Beck!

That actually makes sense!

Fact: They never said the solder was a part of OWS. He might just be there to score some drugs!!!!!

so we should just do whatever the riot police tell us to, whether it has legal basis or not?

That depends on whether you want to get hurt. If there’s a legal problem, you take it to court. If you want to battle it out in the street, you’re going to lose.

Lala, the corrupt, liberal media has NO interest in honest reporting. 

AHHHH the perils of unruly protesting.

“TMP”

The US citizen is not about to put up with this much longer. 

We all know its true – OCCUPY WALL ST will be over when the weather turns cold and the Media grows tired of having to sift through the know nothings to find reasonable attendees. 

While I’m not a fan of the country western loving, hilly billy laden tea party – I can’t remember violence or arrests on a wide scale. Like it or not, PR matters and the OCCUPY movement is losing PR on a grand scale.

It’s funny, I’ve posted several links to prove both of those and yet you keep mocking me.  Don’t believe your lying eyes, UNreasonable lib!!

The hazards of being and OWSer. The fact that he is an Iraqui vet has no reletiveness here.

ALL of the Mediaite articles on Oakland are about “police violence”

http://www.mediaite.com/tag/occupy-oakland/

In what world is throwing bottles at police the definition of peaceful protest, moron?

Fact: We care about the troops and we all agree that
this solders problems are just starting if he is an active solder showing off
his a$$ to civilian authorities!!!

I’ve got a better idea. How about if you lose the blinders and pay attention?

Yeah, dude, that was some serious “revolutionary jargon.” Whoa. 

I know I won’t get through to your heavily brainwashed mind, but you should really look at the polls on the protests. By an overwhelming majority, Americans (“the people,” comrade) support the protests. Sorry to inform you of what goes on outside of your bubble. 

Looks and sounds like a flash-bang, and having used them myself in building entries I should know.

Too much smoke, not enough light. It looks like tear gas to me.

What the hell do you know about what Vets think?  This Vet knew he was going into the line of fire when the protest became unruly and broke the law.

“TMP”

I’ve got a better idea than that. Why don’t you turn off Glenn Beck and pick up a book that’s not written by the far-right?

Wow, I’m worried. Did all that spinning make you dizzy?

Maybe you should lie down for a bit.

Simply using ones own abilities of observation you can see the Oakland Police are lying.  There are NO rocks, bottles or paint on the ground anywhere near the police in ther video.  The veteran was hit with a teargas canister fired at head level in opposition to police procedure which is to fire in front of a crowd or at the ground.  If any items were secured by police as evidence of what was allegedly thrown at them, it needs to be inspected by an independent panel for authenticity.  The Oakland police department has no credibility as a police force outside of Oakland Ca. 

What war did you fight in? Like most of you guys..and almost all the right wing DJ’s ,you won’t fight…but like war..and warmongering….

Fact: Peaceful mob that like to play dress up as
little ninja’s!!!

So, you can’t argue with anything in it either. None of you can, despite it being crazy-ass Glenn Beck.

That’s instructive.

I’m waiting to see Obama standing side by side with you idiots like he did with TNBP.  He’s going to drop you idiots like a hot potato because of your violence and anti-Jewish rhetoric.  He needs the Jewish vote you moron.  I hope he does stand with you Communists, Che’ and Mao’st idiots.  In public with the cameras rolling.

“TMP”

I want to believe this story that he was innocently in the wrong place
at the wrong time, but why would a veteran violate an order to not
trespass?

Good question, but he knew what he was doing:

When Olsen heard that protesters at Occupy Oakland were asking for
support, he took BART to Oakland and joined in the protest, Shannon
said. Olsen knew he might have been arrested but didn’t seem to have
any idea the demonstration would get as violent as it did, Shannon
said.

It actually makes you pretty delusional since i never called you a ‘neocon’. Not sure what you are reading into but going by your comments about calling the protest ‘a mob’, may I remind you that those lefties marching for civil rights and voting rights were also attacked and maligned.

We, who actually saw action in the military..know what a moron is like….look in the mirror..

…and have they proven me wrong? Where are the original stories of how OWS Oakland was threatening the local news media and selling drugs?

Fact: Please stop. I now know one out there that Perry can stomp in a debate and it’s you jk13!!!!

lol…it was reported in the local news media…something Mediaite apparently didn’t cover.

There was a RAT INFESTATION at OWS Oakland.

Hopefully the tea party thugs are next

If you watch the video the guy who fell did not get hit by anything.   He reacted to the explosion behind him and dove to the ground.    The pavement is what caused his skull fracture.    

Fact: Liberals want more taxes and bigger government. Yet when that same government does what the government is suppose to do they cry foul!!!!!

So that’s why you you where that white hood/mask in your profile photo!

Unlike you and all the other right wingers on this site…the protester actually did fight in a war…you guys just sit at computers and whine…

Here are a few

Phoenix ‘tea party’ rally leads to arrests

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/04/15/20110415Phoenix-tea-party-rally-arrests-abrk.html

A Gwinnett judge sentenced a tea party member to serve eight years in prison for attacking and hospitalizing a President Barack Obama supporter during a 2009 bar room altercation, a prosecutor said Thursday.

http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/home/headlines/115816419.html

Arizona Teaparty Republican Sentenced To Death For Murder of Latino Man And His 9 Year Old Daughter

http://www.politicsplus.org/blog/2011/02/23/death-sentence-for-tea-party-republican/

Fact: Love that government doing government things!!!!

You proved yourself wrong when you said it was LIBERALS who sent police to curb OWS protesters. Either Liberals hate the police or they love them enough to send them and then praise them for excessive force which is what the Mayor did.

I repeat….What war did you fight in? Like most of you guys..and almost all the right wing DJ’s ,you won’t fight…but like war..and warmongering….

I was just perusing Dreams From My Father again last night. I ran through Steal This Book again a couple of days ago.  Any other suggestions?

“Since I live in the area I know what happened. ”   

That’s like Sarah Palin saying she has foreign policy experience because she “can see Alaska from her house”.  Living within miles of where this incident took place is not the same as witnessing the event as it happened. 

protest yes she does, run up to the car and assault paul no

If only you made sense.

Cause you are reactionary sheep used to follow orders. There´s nothing wrong with civil disobedience, but that´s a concept sheep don´t understand because the shepherd could get very angry with them.
 

If a police officer had been injured by one of these “protesters” then this site and Nando Di Fino would be the first to say don’t rush to judgement.  Now its proven beyond a reasonable doubt that this Iraq war veteran, made sure I got that in there, was injured by the police. Why?  Because some of the “protesters” say so? All of you people who hate the police, don’t call us when you need us, handle it yourself.  Then again you don’t have the courage to handle it yourself which is why you call us. 

Aren’t you happy your government works solely for it’s corporate overlords.

Where did the Oakland protesters get off telling anyone with a camera they are not allowed in “our compound” threatening camers would be taken and broken.
Frank Ogawa Plaza was paid for by the tax payer and open to all with or without cameras.

HEY MORON!

The first link you provided was for a LEFTIST causing problems at a Tea Party, why would you even bother to post these that PROVE leftists are idiots and criminals?

Isn’t it interesting DavidKramer that you conveninetly interested the other two examples?

A Gwinnett judge sentenced a tea party member to serve eight years in prison for attacking and hospitalizing a President Barack Obama supporter during a 2009 bar room altercation, a prosecutor said Thursday.Arizona Teaparty Republican Sentenced To Death For Murder of Latino Man And His 9 Year Old Daughter

Rhetorical? Hyperbolic is the word you may have meant, in your RHETORIC.

Where do you lefties get your education?

You mean like this guy in the article?

I pray that these poor misguided protesters watch out for what they are wishing for, for they are going to get it and I don’t think this is going to make them happy campers.  They then can thank the real organizers behind this very serious disrupting of our civil rights, this isn’t a joke people, it’s going to have a very bad effect on our liberties.

“It’s unclear whether Olsen’s injuries occurred before the projectile was launched into the crowd, after it was launched, or if it was a combination of a prior injury and the explosive.”

Then why do you state in the headline that the police were responsible, you pinheaded simpleton?

Hey, since you believe in civil disobedience. Let’s say all us Tea Partiers quit paying our taxes to support leftists. I guess you will back that play too right?

Go away lefty. You and Mediaite do not have your Kent State moment. You have a vet acting stupidly. Hehehehehe, I wonder what Forest said at the rally?

Instead of dumping copy/pasted information about thing Van Jones reportedly has been a part of, provide actual evidence that he’s somehow orchestrating the Occupy movement and somehow directly encouraged the Oakland protestors to do whatever led the police to use this level of force.

good luck

Did you know that many of the OWS movements are NOW incorporating? The cops must work for them now. Useful idiots.

Cjdohio, please do yourself a favor and attempt to show me even the smallest shred of evidence that she “assaulted” Paul. When you can’t find any, do yourself another favor and start re-thinking your response to me. 

I didn’t say that I made a RHETORICAL comment you dumb idiot only that my comments should not be taken literally.

Another teabagger without a clue.

Just because you are used to take orders, doesn´t mean you can give orders to me (“Go away lefty”). It´s hilarious, you completely proved my point.

Quit paying taxes if you think it´s the right thing to do. But I doubt any of you sheep has the guts to do it.

Good lord!  I had no idea that the protests had gotten to this point!

If this had been the Tea Party Couric, Williams, and Pelley would have been tut-tutting about insurrection and the protester’s hopes of bringing down the duly elected govt!

If the Tea Party had done this with their opposition to bailouts the media would have framed it as being essentially in the same spirit as those who protested segregation!

The difference in treatment by the media is astounding!

Liberal or conservative, you cannot deny video which makes what Obama said to the Arab countries a laughable joke.  Wasn’t that long ago we were telling them to stop using force on peaceful protestors. 

God damnit who left my gremlins out in the sun? 

Ya a US soldier who served 2 tours in Iraq drove his head into the pavement.  Ya that’s what happened.

Apparently, you also think that proper grammar has ‘no reletiveness here’ either.

There?  Where?  Here?  Over there?  What about up there? 

Say what you will about conservatives, but they sure are uneducated.

Neo-Nazis Patrol “Occupy Phoenix” With AR-15′s – Media Silent (Video)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/unreal-neo-nazis-patrol-occupy-phonix-with-ar-15s-media-silent/

I already told you…I haven’t watched it yet.  I will though.  I just need to finish beating my head against the wall.

Fact:  Blech.

So how many arrests were there at Tea Party rallies = 0

How many arrests at OWS = thousands.

Thanks for taking care of Aisle 4 yesterday.  You may not be very bright, but man, can you work a mop!

“The Media spin in high mode.” 
Actualy local news such as KTVU have not shown them charging a police line… as if 1 person running at a line of armored riot police justifies this anyways…

The media in high spin mode you speak of is when they don’t mentioned flash bangs and rubber bullets being used… as is shown by every half decent picture quality video of the events of the 25/26th…

That is the media spin… There needs to be an article about how the oakland/palo police and oakland mayor is blatantly lying to the people of oakland and the rest of the world about the amount of force used against peaceful protesters.

Worst thing protesters have done so far is light garbage can fires and ruin the grass… by camping tents in the plaza.
Worst thing cops have done so far is extended property damage with rubber bullets/flashbangs. critical injury to an unarmed war vet, and attempted injury at those trying to assist his only semi-concious body as it lay 10 feet from police who didnt think twice about helping this limp unconscious 24 year old who had been shot in the head by a rubber bullet fired from police forces.

In fact video clearly shows what police do to people who try to help limp/motionless citizens in critical condition lying on the ground… they will throw flashbangs at you.

How could you ever side with the police or mayor on this is disgusting… smash your TV you brainwashed slop.

I don’t care what the protesters want, I am on their side forever now because police have spilled blood for no reason.

You don’t have anything until you prove it, you are on the internet. I doubt you have 28 years taking shits in the crapper, you sound adolescent.

Since the protesters are afforded more opportunities under the current system of our governments tax system, it only makes sense for them to incorporate.  Willful ignorance David, on your part .

The injury will clearly show if a circular like canister hit his head OR it was blunt force trauma caused by a flat object like hitting the pavement after falling. CT, MRI, X-Rays…
Facts should bare this out. Not conjecture and morons on both sides claiming THEY know what happen when they clearly don’t.
Medical evidence will clearly prove what happened. Nobody here knows what happened and the witnesses on both sides have every reason to lie. We should wait for the medical science to prove this one way or another and keep our dicks in our pants.

The Oakland Police, conservatives and the serial liar Breitbart have chosen an interesting way to “Support the troops”.

Yeah but one of Obama’s supporters beat a lady and carved a backwards B on her face!  Oh wait, she made that up…

Most in the “Occupy Movement” are on the side of police and support their rights to collectively bargain.

Just because you’re a veteran doesn’t give you carte blanche to break the law.   The OWS protesters were given plenty of notice to leave and they refused.   They were told ahead of time that the police would be using rubber bullets and bean bags and tear gas.   He COULD have left, like any law abiding citizen would do.   He got what he deserves, which was not intentional, but he just happened to get hit in the head.    In another country jk13, you would be an anarchy supporter, oh wait, you already are.   OWS WANTS violence to get attention and it will get worse as the media grows bored with them.

WOW……what an intentional misleading headline to make the COPS look like bad guys and the OWS protesters like the innocent victims!!

Total biased BS as usual here @ Mediaite

Yeah, weird how the police didn’t go to break up BAGGERS who were CARRYING GUNS and SIGNS ABOUT TOPPLING THE GOVERNMENT

WHAT’S UP WITH THAT?!?

Thank you for confirming that you are demented. This is the United States of America where we have a right to peaceful assembly.  Tear Gas? Really?  That happens in third world countries. Not Mine!  Only you would try and blame the victim for this gross over-reaction. Shame on you.

guess you missed the video Lala of the cops in FULL RIOT GEAR. YOu are a total moron. All of you on the right that will only be happy when we live in a fascist world … oh wait, the Koch Bros are making sure that happens.

Waaaaaahhhhh, waaaaahhhhh, Quite Whining!

That’s kind of the point – Mediaite clearly has a right wing bent and even THEY are saying cops overreacted, truth hurts.

Yeah, weird that the police didn’t try anything against the BAGGERS who were STRAPPED WITH GUNS AND SIGNS ABOUT TOPPLING THE GOVERNMENT

WTF

jk13, bean bags and rubber bullets and tear gas is NOT excessive force, especially when they had several DAYS notice to leave.

I thought CON BAGGERS were against violence?

YOU SHOWED YOUR TRUE COLORS AGAIN!!

BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Now we know why Oblamer has sympathy for them. All I hear is crickets from biased lame stream media!!

oh, yes, Michelle and Dusty, the corrupt LIBERAL media — owned by the likes of Rupert Murdoch. ROTFLMAO! You just can’t deal with it that anyone in the media might actually not buy into your rightwing crap.  And when the right the TRUTH, you accuse them of being “liberal.”  More right wing hypocrisy.

What’s histrionics is not acknowledging that this Iraq war veteran (Marine that did two tours) came home unscathed only to be put into a coma by PEACEFULLY demonstrating.  Typically, Pablo, Michelle, and people like you would rather demonize this hero than acknowledge that the cops overreacted.  Ever been treated for delusions?

I first heard ,on CNN he was shot by an occupy thug, then I heard he was punched in the head by an occupy thug. Now they’re blaming the police but don’t have the projectile. The occupy optics are not based in reality.

You know the name calling here from all you right wing computer geeks show how really a pathetic group you are…its easy to be tough in print…

Because….

Another right wing computer geek speaks his little mind

So proud and so naive.

When you can’t win the argument, become the spelling police. It makes you feel like a big man doesn’t it?

Michelle, you are a liar and you have to lie in order to make your point.

Why can’t you just deal with the facts of each issue without making stuff up?

Don’t you get tired of having to carry water without a bucket and only your imagination?

Non-sensical.  Incoherent.  Angry.

Shouldn’t you be in a drum circle somewhere occupying some park in your city?

Why should they?- Those carrying guns probably had the legal permit to do so. They didn’t illegally occupy public property and refuse to leave when told to do so, they didn’t cuss or obstruct the police, they didn’t urinate in public. In a nutshell the TP acted as law-abiding citizens exercising their rights within the boundaries of the law. As for carrying signs about toppling the government- apparently you haven’t been paying attention to the OWS signs calling for anarchy. 

How many of them carried guns and threatened to burn qurans?

Looks like I’ve got this clown worried a bit.

If I had a nickle every time I saw a sign at a OWS rally that addressed the “Rights of police officers to collectively bargain” I would have…….wait…. I haven’t seen any of those signs.  Maybe they are hidden by all the bottles and paint that is being thrown at the police officers?

They weren’t breaking the law.  But that’s too complex for a liberal to comprehend.

Hey, there’s no liberal media bias.

If these events don’t prove these media loons are liberal loons, I don’t know what will.

What did I lie about?  Please tell.

THE LIBERALS SUNK THE LUSITANIA!!!!!!!!!! PASS IT ON!!!!!!!

Please point to where I demonized the soldier.

Your statement follows the false premise that the protestors were “peaceful”.  Liberal protests are NEVER peaceful.

I can’t watch Glenn Beck without wanting to shoot myself in the face so could you tell me the gist of the video?

But before you do let me know if I am on the Right track.

Basically, there is one billionaire in the world who is hell bent on destroying the U.S. (While all the other billionaires sit around and watch it.)

One way this billionaire has decided to bring down the entire U.S. is by employing people to occupy wall street.

Some how occupying wall street will destroy the U.S. as we know it and things will get reset and become worse for everyone.

Is this basically what is happening in lower manhattan as we speak (write)?

Isn’t that the conservative argument?

Don’t thread on me….

Get out of my life…

Get out of our way…

Sorry Pablo, it’s the Right who hates the government.

We on the Left hate exploiters.

You might find this interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHlHiNEZ1wA

Can you imagine any Tea party protester admitting this and the video NOT finding its way onto Mediaite?

I have seen one that says “All of my heroes are cop killers” though. 

And count on the media to bury it if it doesn’t fit their template. 

Oh, a few already have, their names are: Timothy Geithner, Tom Daschle, Bill Richardson, Charlie Rangle, Hilda Solis, Max Baucus – whoops! those are democrats. We wouldn’t want Biden to call us unpatriotic for not supporting tax increases now would we.

I hear Obama is going to outlaw guns, by your rationale shouldn’t you willingly give them all up?

The police admit to acting first numbnuts.

well maybe these protesters should come out like the TEA party armed and carrying signs talking about second amendment solutions! Would that make you take these protests a little more serious?

Are you illiterate or just unwilling to read the article?

how much are they paying you to tell those lies your spinning. you said the protesters were told that tear gas and bean bags and rubber bullets would be used. than why did the police chief say they only used those things when bottles and rocks were thrown at them. and cops always film what they do, so were is the video of protesters attacking them. sorry but all you righties are slaves for the system.

I believe that is WC’s job, is it not?

I have been in the military for over ten years I used to be a Republican and voted for both Bushes..Bush 43 once. Since the Republican party has been hijacked by conservative loons who call our Commander in Chief a Marxist, Kenyan I am now an independent. Since the modern day R party wouls say I am a Liberal. Am I wuss too? If so, I would like to arrange a meeting with anyone in here to discuss that insult in person..any takers?
I have seen plenty of conservatives and liberals bag the bed when the shit hit the fan..
Stop painting a broad brush of liberals are X and conservatives are Y..Just makes whomever says it look ignorant.

What does it matter whether he fought in a war or not? The leftists are simply using the wounded soldier as an excuse. 

Are you blind?

You’re ignorant.

He had been injured before.   Don’t you think if you had been in Iraq you would be a little jumpy?  The picture does not show a C shaped injury but what looks like he hit his head on the ground which I say is exactly what happened.

How many riots were there at Tea Party Rallies? How many people were inured? How many people were arrested?

You’re going to confuse these leftists idiots with facts Michelle.  They can’t handle anything that doesn’t come from MSNBC, Move On, Media Matters or Huffy Post.  Just look at Mencius’s post.  How ignorant was that?

“TMP”

poking someone in the face with sign……

I think mediaite is Pretty fair.  There are a lot of liberals that post on it, I’ll agree to that.

Back in the 1960s the Police always came down hard on the protesters.  I seemed to always been lucky enough to miss the violence, and for that I’m glad.  I do remember undercover police pulling young men out of trees and hitting them with their clubs. This was during a Love In at Elysian Park in 1967, not even a real protest.  I was going to go to a June 23rd Protest of the Vietnam war and President Lyndon Johnson outside of Johnson’s LA Hotel, probably also in 1967, but I went on a date instead.   I’m glad I missed that blood bath.  But the thing is, this was always a possibility that something like this could happen. Liberals were made of tougher stuff back then, and we only did Love-Ins and Protests for one day, we didn’t make a career out of it.  But of course I’m no longer a liberal because I grew up and saw the light.  

The police have no idea how to handle a problem/situation, without resorting to violence. If an investigation is made on any violence made by police, it is 99% excused as ”just doing thier job.”

 Even if that job meant shooting unarmed citizens, or tasering emotional or mentally challenged citizens so many times, they die. 

It’s always been that way with police & will never change. Even in the 60′s becoming a member of police was “the status” job to have. The hopful applicants most often having the same twisted attitude. An example. A part timer in my workplace was in training for police mid 1970s. His own words repeated too many times to count, were, he couldn’t wait until he was legally able to beat the sh** of of who ever he wanted.

That to me, represents what the police force really is. People with legal licence to abuse.

 If I have a problem, which I have had throughout my lifetime, the last people I’d call for help, would be police. I manage just fine without them.

A OWS brought a AK-47  and over 2500 have been arrested!

OMG- Axl Rose was at OWS Oakland?

The protesters should have been able to stay without being injured by police.  Yelling at the cops does not constitute being attacked. When you who oppose these victims choose to protest in the future you my be setting yourselves up for future violence.

I raise you one rape and 2500 arrests, troll!

I raise you a rape and 2500 arrests, troll!

LOL

But Lala, were you there?  Do have an eye witness report, because you are giving ‘hear say’ evidence if you were not.

Poor baby- 2500 of OWSers have been arrested!

LOL

2500 OWSers have been arrested!

Try again!

I should have stated that hear say is not evidence.

These were not peace officers they were Storm Troopers!

something is wrong with you. youre a hearltess piece of sh*t! that doesnt make you conservite, that makes you sub-human! breitbart is a disgusting racist bigot (shirley sherrod), wont and probably cant admit he hates blacks, and youre posting with a link to his site when he has as much credibility as his cohort james okeefe. great job! youre just another phony fox republican.

you should just step off! I cant wait for you to support mitt romney, you phony!

Show the videos of the protesters throwing bottles and paint at the cops. Show the videos of the protesters kettling the cops in order to instigate trouble.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ISXqzg99s&list=LLObeRAiXu7xB6z30qAkJQvw&index=17&feature=plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZxe07xkbMU&list=LLObeRAiXu7xB6z30qAkJQvw&index=29&feature=plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CReETRNT1yU&list=LLObeRAiXu7xB6z30qAkJQvw&index=49&feature=plpp_video

“Just a reminder that Barry and Nance fully support it and refuse to condemn their actions.”
Which actions were President Obama asked about concerning the OWS crowd and “refused” to condemn.  And we are assuming these are illegal, immoral or unethical acts… right.

Who will be the first democrat in elected office to rush to this guys hospital bed and condemn the police? Obama? Pelosi?

Who will be the first reporter in the Washington press corps to ask  President Obama about this incident?

Democrats and the mainstream media own these Occupy protests now.

See if you can get the stench of it off your hands by election 2012.

You are one stupid person.

How do you own something that you didn’t start?

Latest reports say he was more likely hit by a rock or brick thrown by the protesters.  And just WTH does having him being an Iraqi vet have to do with it?  He was probably hit on purpose by one of his cohorts so as to use  him as  a pawn?

They also brought assualt weapons to their Occupy Atlanta gig.  the Mayor said enough was enough and the occupiers would be evicted.

http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=ows%2Bassualt%20weapon%2Batlanta&pbx=1&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=1c82949ca002f577&biw=960&bih=459&pf=p&pdl=3000

Your fear writ large.

Bold type: triple fear with a wounded vet in the street.

If it makes you feel better, seems like Bill O’Reilly agree with Breitbar and lala, so he’s bringing his spotlight to the occupiers violence against the police.  Either way, video doesn’t lie.  I saw the Breitbart videos of the police being completely attacked by the occupiers.   Sickening.

Americans like peaceful, not rock throwing, bottle-throwing protesters.  

We’re having such a very different event here in Tucson than seems to be taking place in Oakland.  I myself have only been able to participate for a few hours, but I have spoken with friends who are able to more fully participate and my experience seems to be the norm.  During the day, we protest in one of our City parks.  For “special” protests we walk in a group to our destination, protest, and return to the park.  All has taken place peacefully, with no acts of violence by protestors OR police despite several arrests.  City ordinances prohibit occupation of the park after 10:30 pm without a special permit; to obtain a permit one must provide, amongst other things, proof of liability insurance.  Occupy Tucson has neither a permit or insurance, so protestors who remain in the park after hours are being issued citations (which are very expensive); multiple citations will get you arrested (though the City Council is likely to dismiss the tickets).  Again, these arrests have taken place without violence on the part of the participants or the police.

The OWS movement here very much reflects our City itself.  My husband and I are both Constitutionalists; I’m a registered Libertarian and he’s Republican.  Several of our friends also participating are Democrats; others are Independents.  Most of us are strong believers in Capitalism.  What we reject and are angry about is that the US is currently operating (and has been for some time) under a system of Crony Capitalism. We sneered at Asian financiers in the ’90s for practicing it, and rightly so, because serious reform was needed.  The same is true for us today.   Recent government reports show that in the last thirty years, the income of the top 1% earners rose 275%.  For the bottom 3/5 of us, income rose only 18%.  It also indicates the top fifth of us make more than the rest of us combined. This is neither economically healthy nor morally acceptable.

I am most definitely NOT a liberal, I did not and will not support the candidacy of Mr. Obama (though I will show him the respect due the President of the United States and address him by either the title of “President” or by using the honorific “Mister” before his last name) and I served my country way back in the ’80s.  But you seem to have a worldview of police in the US that makes me think that either you or a close family member is or was a cop.  There are lots of great cops out there.  There are also lots of bad ones.  Just like any other profession, there’s both good and bad representatives of the trade.   The image of the brave cop rushing to the rescue was tarnished a bit by the United States Supreme Court case where the Court determined that the police were *under no mandate whatsoever to intervene in an event to come to the aid of a citizen under attack.*  The case in question involved a woman who was being raped, begging a passing cop for help, and a cop who did nothing.  There’s no doubt there are also cases where brave officers do rush in to help.

My point is that perhaps you shouldn’t be so quick to rush to judgment, or if you can’t help yourself from so doing, at least attempt to stop taking a small side issue where you disagree with someone and explode all over the screen about it, ignoring the true issue under discussion.  You also don’t need to name-call if you’ve got the facts on your side.  It’s people like you who give GOPers and Conservatives a bad name.  Why can’t you just present your side of the issue calmly and rationally, without all the vitriol?  That nastiness will turn more people off to what you’re saying than it will attract, so you’re actually *hurting* your point.  Didn’t your mother ever tell you that you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar?

Please don’t use that term.  It’s not only inflammatory and disrespectful to a group of people the overwhelming majority of whom would never dream of saying such disgusting things, but it’s incredibly vulgar.  I’m sure you’re educated and articulate enough to make your point without having to resort to crude sexual innuendo.  I respect your right to speak your mind (and while I’m not familiar with the situation you’re noting here, people who would say such things have nothing to do with the people *I* know and associate with) but that particular term is particularly revolting.

At least these fine outstanding OWS  are not as violent as the tea party thats all that matters the teaparty was the worst defacating on cars living in filth, racists and anti sematic comments

By the looks of things, there is rampant lying and fact distortion to the extremes. The OWS is a peaceful demonstration against all the aspects of Wall Street greed! By attacking the peaceful demonstrators, the fringe infiltrators executed their plan to make the OWS a non-peaceful demonstration. These infiltrators will be found out and banned from the site. But the real issue is police brutality towards the demonstrators and the failure of the leaders of the OWS Burbank to keep the peace. Check this site out!
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/10/our-last-graph-about-9-9-9-and-the-only-one-you-need-to-see/246986/Gives you a great perspective of the gross inequities in taxation in America!

If this guy had been home…where he belongs….We wouldn’t be reading this sensationalism of non-news that didn’t happen.
Go home you bums.
Take a f*cking shower.

I’m a Conservative and a Constitutionalist.  I don’t want “more for free”.  I pay taxes.  Since I’m self-employed, I pay MORE taxes than you do (assuming you a) work and b) are working for someone else) since I have to pay both ends of FICA.  And like MOST Americans, I support the OWS movement.

Where is your anger?  We, the American public, were deliberately sold out by criminals in the financial markets and side markets. CRIMINALS.  I apologize for the caps, but I want to make sure you understand.  Our current economic situation is because a whole bunch of people in the financial industry BROKE THE LAW.  You are defending *criminals*.   It’s been documented over and over and over again, and by conservative press, too.  And yet NOT A SINGLE PERSON has served a single day in jail.

I don’t want more for free — not in the least part because there’s no such thing.  I am a Capitalist.  I am, however, opposed to Crony Capitalism, which is what got us in this mess.  You should be furious with these people who *stole from you*!  And *that* is why most Americans support the movement.  They’re smart enough to want criminals prosecuted and out of our economic pie.

I didn’t lie at all.  He has supported the protests.  After the incident in AZ (when the left and their minions in the liberal media were trying to blame it on the TP and Palin), he came out and lectured everyone (and by everyone, I mean his political “enemies”), about words and actions.  And yet in the midst of the violence, threats of death, anti-semitism, racist, drug dealing, rape, and pretty much everything else that is illegal going on at OWS, he’s been totally silent.  His silence is deafening.  And why is he silent?  Because he needs there to be chaos in the streets to distract people from his failures.  Well that and as Michael Moore said, OWS thugs are his only chance for re-election.  Though I think he’s dead wrong on that point.  I think this class war is going to seriously backfire on him. 

Jules, I agree with a lot of what you say, but I don’t think it represents the thugs protesting.  I’m all for closing the tax loopholes and if someone broke the law, they should go to jail.  Let’s start with Barney Frank.  I do NOT agree with debt forgiveness, including student loans.  What a lot of us object to is this all out class war that is being waged in an attempt to divide people.  It used to be something to be proud of to be successful in this country, but it’s being turned into something you are told you should be ashamed of. 

ps, If anyone is looking for Michelle O, she’s fundraising with the Enron crooks.  And her hubby has received the most Wall Street money of anyone in the last 20 years.  And he’s more than tripled the number of fat cat fundraisers that Bush had been too at this point in his Presidency.  Yet he’s out there claiming to be with the 99&.  Right Barry!

If you’re for closing the tax loopholes, here’s a question for you, Michelle: were you for it in 2009 when the Obama administration proposed closing them, and openly came out in support of a bill drafted by Levin, who had worked with Republicans on similar plans? Because the entire GOP refused to support the proposal, which was laid out with plenty of detail. What’s funny now is that Rick Perry and Michelle Bachmann are talking about closing the same loopholes now as if the idea was theirs. 

Here’s another question: have you actually seen OWS firsthand? They are not “thugs” by any stretch of the imagination. I’ve been to the site and walked around and spoken with people. I showed up with some healthy skepticism about what I would find and, while there is the occasional muddled kid there, many are bright, articulate, college educated men and women who have worked both white and blue collar jobs. 

If you want to see who’s in bed with Wall Street, then you’re right, both parties are. But you constantly parrot the GOP line when, as a party, they hugely surpass the Democrats in terms of accepting money from Wall Street. That’s an easy stat to verify if you want to, Michelle. Something tells me you don’t want to do anything but spread b.s. though. 

It’s amazing how the leftists and the OWS people don’t know who organized their movement. Van Jones, George Soros, Move On dot Org and the Canadian activist group Adbusters.  Not to count the many groups who hate the Jews.  You people complain about the Tea Party, ya right!

Stay ignorant, you’re good at it.

“TMP”

Nope.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/27/people-with-guns-at-public-rallies-are-bad-except-when-theyre-not/

http://bigjournalism.com/pjsalvatore/2011/10/27/buried-lede-of-the-day-ak-47-at-occupyatlanta/

If you have an argument, make it. If all you have is ad-hominem, don’t waste my time or yours.

Not an excuse, a trophy. I’m sure there’s more than a couple wishing him dead, as he’d be much more useful were he a martyr.

Are you aware of your rage issue?

Any rebuttal yet?

**crickets**

No, he’s running through a number of those behind OWS. Connecting the dots, along with the intent.

Do you own guns? If not, you’ll be fine. If so, have someone hide them.

The police have no idea how to handle a problem/situation, without
resorting to violence.

And this is why the police shoot hundreds of people, every day!

Hey, wait a minute…

If an investigation is made on any violence made
by police, it is 99% excused as ”just doing thier job.”

That’s why cops never go to jail.

Wait, that isn’t true either. I’m beginning to think you’re not an honest person.

Elizabeth Warren says it’s hers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWDJA-OSyzg&feature=player_embedded

Is it anti-police to show video of the cops throwing a flash bang grenade at the people trying to help the wounded Iraq war vet.

How many police were hurt in the OWS Oakland protest if the crowd were so THREATENING?

OWS “protestors” are nothing but malcontents who want to defy authority and destroy property, trained Marxist Chimps and  useful idiots.  And just because someone was in the military doesn’t mean they are loyal to America ie. John Kerry et al.  The OWS agitators only accept  ”veterns” who are Marxists like themselves and can be used as tools of Propagand for the Radical Left Wing Marxist “Mass Media” that suck up to them and obama!

Olsen’s injuries appear serious (we hope for his speedy and full recovery), and the Oakland police may indeed have overreacted. Nonetheless, evidence collected by Big Government reveals that Occupy has long sought precisely the sort of spectacle Olsen’s injury provides, in order to win broader public sympathy and to rally Occupy activists around common opposition to the police.
That is clear from an email sent on Oct. 13 by Tarak Kauff to other Occupy Wall Street activists. Kauff organizes “nonviolent direct action” for Veterans for Peace–the group Olsen marched with in Oakland.
In anticipation of a raid by police the next day to clear Zuccotti Park for cleaning (which was called off), Occupy Wall Street activists planned to hold brooms as police arrived, to show they were willing to clean the park themselves.
Kauff advised activists to hold brooms “peacefully,” with the brush side up, so as not to create the impression that the protestors were armed. He then suggested:
If the police overreact (as they are likely to) and we take the blows, and it is recorded, it will go worldwide and further tremendously galvanize the movement…If that can be done, this could be a major turning point. You will put the police and city in a lose/lose situation…The Occupy activists havenʼt relied on veterans alone. They have also tried to use “weak” people as sympathetic human shields–the old, the young, and disabled. Prior to the anticipated “cleaning” in Zuccotti Park, another activist, Charles Lenchner, wrote via e-mail: “Push youngest/ oldest to the front lines….This is a battle over images, not just over the park.”(Note the word “push,” suggesting that some might have to be moved to the front lines against their will.)And at the Oakland riot, Occupy activists brought along a woman in a wheelchair. The mainstream media dutifully broadcast the image of them pushing her through clouds of tear gas.These tactics are not new. They are the same methods used by terrorist organizations like Hamas to win global sympathy during conflict with Israel.Thatʼs no surprise, given that leading organizers in recent Occupy protests in Chicago are under investigation for links to Hamas and other terrorist groups.

http://goo.gl/yaUFq

Let’s have some more clarity please. Who wrote this article’s title? Was it you, or was it OWS supporter Colby Hall?

Well done!

These tactics are right out of Lenin’s and Alinsky’s play books.  I honor the veterans service, however, such does NOT give him ‘carte blanche’ to behave in any way he sees fit, or, stretch the 1st amendment!

Purveyor

Michael Moore “You’re Going To Have Democrats Breaking Up These Modern Day Hoovervilles”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE7cBdn3qpY 

October 10/11 polling of the OWS protesters in New York found that 31% of the protesters would support violence to achieve their objectives.  Looks like the protesters in Oakland has a few of those 31% ers within their ranks. 

These aren’t Hoovervilles. These are Alinskyvilles.

Ah, uncleduke is someone who has no idea what the Constitution says or how legislation works.

Sorry, I don’t have time to fill the enormous gaps in your education. But I’ll throw you a quick bone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ

Interesting sidenote, Scott Olsen,  is the founder of I Hate the Marines Corps.  This is from his Facebook:

The Marine Corps thrives on its image. They convince young men and
women that they’re joining a professional military organization. But
that’s not the case at all, every Marine knows it, and most have no
problem downplaying the bullshit to outsiders so they can protect their
“beloved corps”. I noticed some of the other posters have told you not
to pay any attention to my site because we’re just a bunch of *********
who couldn’t hack it, right? Maybe not hacking it means we saw through
the bullshit and don’t want to take it. Maybe the brainwashing didn’t
work on us. I’m not here to tell you if you should join or not. I’m here
to advise you to take the people who visit my website just as seriously
as anybody who tries to sell you the MC as a good thing.

My site is anonymous, these people don’t have to worry about hiding
from the MC, or protecting the MC’s image or anything. It is unfiltered
truth.

You have to know the politics of Oakland- the occupation was not about Wall Street. As with the TP not every OWS protestor or meeting, gathering, spoke-person should not be painted with the same ‘crazy’ paintbrush because of a few loose nuts. Unfortunately, the MSM media did not give the benefit of the doubt to the TP, happily calling them dangerous, and racist. The Ignorant bought it when a few videos mostly refuted went viral.  The message of the TP stood for was to enact fiscal accountability, lower taxes, smaller government, get the federal government out of people’s private lives, tax/IRS overall, who could argue with that – apparently alot of socialist. If you want a true free market society you will have a disparity between those who have and those who are struggling. Even in a social democracy you will find that.  

He does. After all of the years of hatred and bile the far left has spewed at the US
military, they finally have a former military member they can support ,Scott
Olsen. Daily Kos has already thrown together a tribute to this marine.Scott
Olsen,is also the founder of I Hate the Marines Corps. com . http://www.verumserum.com/?p=31617

He doesn’t want to go back:

Iraq War Veteran Injured at OWS Oakland, Scott Olsen, Founder of IHateTheMarineCorps.com

Olsen writes: The Marine Corps thrives on its image. They convince young men and women that they’re joining a professional military organization. But that’s not the case at all, every Marine knows it, and most have no problem downplaying the bullshit to outsiders so they can protect their “beloved corps”. I noticed some of the other posters have told you not to pay any attention to my site because we’re just a bunch of ********* who couldn’t hack it, right? Maybe not hacking it means we saw through the bullshit and don’t want to take it. Maybe the brainwashing didn’t work on us. I’m not here to tell you if you should join or not. I’m here to advise you to take the people who visit my website just as seriously as anybody who tries to sell you the MC as a good thing.My site is anonymous, these people don’t have to worry about hiding from the MC, or protecting the MC’s image or anything. It is unfiltered truth.
Source(s):
Former Marine, owner of http://www.ihatethemarinecorps.com

http://www.verumserum.com/?p=31617

The pattern I see here is that critics of OWS are blindly siding with the police and siding against the Constitution itself, which grants us the right to freedom of assembly in public spaces. Getting in a cop’s face is not an act of violence, and only a tool of the State would tell you it is. It makes me laugh out loud every time I read one of these “anti-big government” conservatives jump onto the side of the police, no matter how wrong they are.

Police violence is the ultimate form of big government, it blows my mind that conservatives don’t see that.

http://web.archive.org/web/20110130113227/http://ihatethemarinecorps.com/
 
Coward! As clearly shown on the video of the incident  he was the first one to start running away once the tear gas started being fired…maybe that’s why he was hit….for all of his “Marine brothers”   this is the same Olsen who is the founder of the “I Hate The Marine Corps” web site (since been taken down but screen captures available all over the place as well as proof of ownership)….no longer a Marine though…he was discharged under other than honorable circumstances…general discharge.. and anybody who has served knows what that means…..so how about it all of you Olsen supporters….??  Another Marxist wet dream hero turns out to be just another nutcase lefty…

First, only an idiot views being called a  ”Liberal” an insult.  Second, I’ve never heard a “Conservative” idea that wasn’t evil and stupid.  Neither group has anything to do with being employed vs being unemployed, being for or against guns—the list goes on and on.  If you call yourself “Conservative”, you are just one of the stupid cattle that voted for George Bush Jr, who history will judge as the worst president we’ve ever had, and is personally responsible for the whole mess we find ourselves in now.