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Jon Stewart: ‘Andrew Breitbart May Be The Most Honest Person In The Entire Story’

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A bewhiskered Jon Stewart returned from his recent two week vacation and addressed the latest political news controversy: the scandal surrounding former USDA staffer Shirley Sherrod‘s unfair dismissal after allegations of racist comments were revealed to be out of context. Stewart spared no one complicit in the whole clusterf*ck, save one unlikely participant: Internet provocateur Andrew Breitbart, the individual who first published the heavily edited video of Sherrod’s comments. Say what?

After railing against Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack for saying that Sherrod’s dismissal “should have been done in a more personal way, with far more thought and far less haste,” he then mocked the NAACP for claiming to have been “snookered” and the White House’s unique non-apology apology. Shockingly, however, Stewart appeared to give Andrew Breitbart a pass – not for his actions, per se, but rather his candor in admitting his agenda five months back:

Stewart: First of all, Fox News is too busy with their black panther hard-on to bother much with this. And Andrew Breitbart, the guy who leaked the edited tape, may be the most honest person in this entire story. This is what he said five months ago:

Bretibart (from file footage): I want to be in the history books saying I took down the institutional left.

Stewart: See he didn’t say “I want to be in the history books a aparagon of honesty,” he didn’t say “I would like to be in the Museum of Broadacsting, and to be known by children around the wold as Arnold B. Truthington of Accuracy Lane.”

No ,he said out loud “I want to bring down the institutional left.” So if you are on the institutional left, and you see the package from him, watch the whole (bleep) tape. How is that snookering?

While many in the media have lambasted Breitbart for his part in this story – and much of that has been deserved – Stewart makes a rather brave point. Breitbart has always been clear with his agenda, so no one should be shocked when it is effective. Lesson learned?

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  • Some_Dude

    It was a funny segment. Basically “my agenda is to ruin the other side, hell or high water!” with no mention to integrity.

    So when such a person sends you “evidence”, why even considerate it?

  • betweentwoevils

    Jon Stewart, the court jester, tells it the way it is…I laugh because I would like to cry.

  • Some_Dude

    betweentwoevils said:
    Jon Stewart, the court jester…

    He aspires to nothing less. Context.

  • Some_Dude

    Some_Dude said:
    He aspires to nothing less. Context.

    I wish there were an edit feature here…I meant “nothing more”, obviously

  • Bootleghaircut

    ‘I want to bring down the institutional left.’

    In the words of my people….what a lousy schmuck.

    “Stewart makes a rather brave point”

    What point? that Breitbart is a charlatan and fool? Hardly brave but certainly accurate
    based on the supsect words of the lying miscreant himself.

  • Pablo

    Some_Dude said:
    So when such a person sends you “evidence”, why even considerate it?

    That’s a question for the Administration, don’t you think? “Boy, the news cycle sure is crazy.” isn’t much of an excuse.

  • Pablo

    Bootleghaircut said:
    What point? that Breitbart is a charlatan and fool?

    Is your reading comprehension in the shop, boot?

  • Some_Dude

    Pablo said:
    That’s a question for the Administration, don’t you think? “Boy, the news cycle sure is crazy.” isn’t much of an excuse.

    I didn’t exclude or include them – I figured my rhetorical statement was all inclusive.

    But I get it, you’re redlined partisan and all.

  • Bootleghaircut

    Some Dude

    Pablo only understand what he wants to-his motto is defacto ergo sum of course!

  • Pablo

    Some_Dude said:
    But I get it, you’re redlined partisan and all.

    Yeah, me and Jon Stewart, two right wing nutjobs, sitting in a tree.

    That was a great clip, btw.Intellectual honesty is so nice to see and all too rare these days.

  • victor the crab

    I wouldn’t use the word “honest” to something like Andrew Breitbart, whose whole mission in life is to discredit those he disagrees with by lying and using underhanded methods. But Jon Stewart is correct in tearing a strip off of those on the left for taking anything these propogandists say seriously. It would be wise to give this creep Brietbart the Voldermont treatment and ignore this recognition seeking scumball completely..

  • victor the crab

    Pablo said:
    Is your reading comprehension in the shop, boot?

    Is your point to behave like a subject altering d-bag?

  • Bootleghaircut

    “Is your point to behave like a subject altering d-bag?”

    BINGO

  • timzank

    Remind us all again who fired Sherrod?

  • Bootleghaircut

    “Remind us all again who fired Sherrod?”

    FOX NEWS!

    NYUCK!

  • Pablo

    victor the crab said:
    Is your point to behave like a subject altering d-bag?

    No, I’m trying to have a dialog with a moron. You?

  • Bootleghaircut

    VIC

    “No, I’m trying to have a dialog with a moron. You?”

    and in doing so sufferes yet another epic failure.

  • lazzzlo

    Some_Dude said:
    I wish there were an edit feature here.

    I completely agree!

    The only other thing I would add is that it would appear that the NAACP had access to the whole tape but didn’t bother to review it in it’s entirety and so a chain of events was set in motion. Stewart left that point out.

    Old adage, “Never jump to conclusions because the conclusions may jump on you”. Another time-tested adage, “Always consider the source.”

    The marshmallow Fluff, a product I was previously unfamiliar with, was pretty funny. When I occasionally grow a goatee I have the same “chin-hair coloring”…that was a concept I’d never considered and seemed rather effective!

  • Some_Dude

    Pablo said:
    Yeah, me and Jon Stewart, two right wing nutjobs, sitting in a tree.

    That was a great clip, btw.Intellectual honesty is so nice to see and all too rare these days.

    It doesn’t strike you as odd that a satirical comedic TV show strives for intellectual honesty more than those that claim they’re journalists? Cmon man, political inclinations aside, that can’t be right to you. Right?

  • lazzzlo

    Bootleghaircut said:
    “Remind us all again who fired Sherrod?”

    FOX NEWS!

    NYUCK!

    Hmmm, I thought it was Tom Vilsack.

  • Bootleghaircut

    “Hmmm, I thought it was Tom Vilsack.”

    Who works for Fox News of course!

  • Some_Dude

    lazzzlo said:
    I completely agree!

    Eeesssh – I just wanted to correct a minor typo (my post was not long or verbose, my proposed change was within the next carriage return). You’re jumping to conclusions.

  • timzank

    Try this morons. You are the manager. An employee with a long history of stirring shit comes to you and says another employee just pee’d in the coffee maker.

    Do you go check the coffee maker or just go fire the accused?

  • lazzzlo

    Some_Dude said:
    It doesn’t strike you as odd that a satirical comedic TV show strives for intellectual honesty more than those that claim they’re journalists? Cmon man, political inclinations aside, that can’t be right to you. Right?

    Actually, good satirical comedy skewers everyone. Chaucer, Voltaire, Percy Byshee Shelley and Lenny Bruce all forced their audiences to look at both society at large and also inward….and they normally pissed people off and were banned.

    So no, it doesn’t surprise me that a satirical comedy show might actually strive for intellectual honesty more than the average politician, political institution or partisan pundit.

  • The Real Royal King

    Stewart often catches the essence of things. Breitbart was the most honest, because we knew his motivation was sinister, malicious and destructive and racist. He makes little pretense to hide any of this, and, in fact, goes to great lengths to proclaim it. Breitbart seems to be a latter day Lester Maddox, very proud of his ill-will, bigotry and racism. So, who then did Breitbart make fools of because they listened to him, seemed to have given him some measure of legitimacy? The NAACP, the Adminsitration and FOX News. All were foolish to listen to Breitbart for even a moment, as are any and all who listen to Breitbart. That makes the Steele/RNC invitation to Breitbart all the more interesting, doesn’t it? But, I digress.

    There are three tremendous losses for rightists in all of this:

    #1 Racism spotted its welcome mat once again and entered into the House on the Right.

    #2 FOX News looks even worse than Breitbart, because in its mad rush for legitmacy, without working towards it, without building up a reputation, it was every bit as sinister, malicious, destructive and racist as Brietbart whilst proclaiming its legitimacy in ever shriller and louder, manic terms. In other words, FOX News is not only sinister, malicious, destructive and racist as Breitbart, it is also demostrably mendacious and hypocritical about it all. FOX’s legitimacy ended as soon as it began.

    #3 The NAACP and the Administration learned their lesson. Breitbart and FOX News no longer deserve any credibility or legitmacy. I am sure both will act accordingly in the future.

    The winner, Ms. Sherrod. Not because she is perfect. Indeed, because she is not and knows that. She was candid about her struggle with racial tolerance, and has become someting of a poster child, a role model for all of us.

    FOX NEWS: WE NEVER PERMIT A HALF TRUTH. THE WHOLE LIE AND NOTHING BUT THE WHOLE LIE.

  • Azarkhan

    “I want to bring down the institutional left.” Andrew Breitbart

    Keep up the good work.

  • The Real Royal King

    timzank said:
    Try this morons. You are the manager. An employee with a long history of stirring shit comes to you and says another employee just pee’d in the coffee maker. Do you go check the coffee maker or just go fire the accused?

    I think you need to work on that analogy a bit.

    FOX NEWS: WE NEVER PERMIT A HALF TRUTH. THE WHOLE LIE AND NOTHING BUT THE WHOLE LIE.

  • lazzzlo

    Some_Dude said:
    Eeesssh – I just wanted to correct a minor typo (my post was not long or verbose, my proposed change was within the next carriage return). You’re jumping to conclusions.

    No, really dude, I wish there was an edit buttons for my posts as well!!!!

    Lol, I’m not the one jumping to conclusions. I agree with you…I too wish that Mediaite provided the posters with an “edit” button so we all, me personally, could correct our posts within a moment or two after posting. My syntax sucks!

  • lazzzlo

    see…edit button not buttons! lol

  • Bootleghaircut

    Little timmy strikes again with another one of his stupid hypotheticals_I can only imagine
    the brain teasers this guy lays on himself at night so he can sleep!!!

    “Try this morons. You are the manager. An employee with a long history of stirring shit comes to you and says another employee just pee’d in the coffee maker.
    Do you go check the coffee maker or just go fire the accused?”

    See what you do is as the manager is that you Pee in the coffee and fire all your staff
    because you tell them you can’t figure out who did it and you don’t want to waste another
    second with such infantile stupidity.

  • lazzzlo

    Bootleghaircut said:
    “Hmmm, I thought it was Tom Vilsack.”

    Who works for Fox News of course!

    OK, I’m missing your point….Vilsack is the Secretary of Agriculture.

  • Bootleghaircut

    “Vilsack is the Secretary of Agriculture.”

    Really? Does that mean its not possible for him to be a secret member
    of the Fox News Smear Team? Can you provide proof to the contrary?
    Clearly you forget how powerful and secretive Roger alies is!

    Nyuck!

  • timzank

    Why are rabid progressives completely void of common sense? Vilsack & the white house jumped the gun, right?

    My analogy makes perfect sense, check out the facts before having a knee-jerk reaction. Why is that so hard for you to grasp?

  • lazzzlo

    The Real Royal King said:
    So, who then did Breitbart make fools of because they listened to him, seemed to have given him some measure of legitimacy? The NAACP, the Adminsitration and FOX News. All were foolish to listen to Breitbart for even a moment, as are any and all who listen to Breitbart. That makes the Steele/RNC invitation to Breitbart all the more interesting, doesn’t it? But, I digress.

    I don’t think you digress here because I don’t see the issue with the RNC inviting Breitbart to address them during an election year cycle. Steele may be pandering and Breitbart may have to work harder to prove to the MSM that he is legitimate…if that’s his goal. I’m not so sure that is his goal…so, I don’t see a conflict of interest.

    He has clearly stated his intentions.

  • timzank

    Why is personal responsibility a foreign concept to liberals? I just can’t understand how anyone could be raised to believe everything that happens is always somebody elses fault.

    How does that happen?

  • The Real Royal King

    Azarkhan said:
    “I want to bring down the institutional left.” Andrew Breitbart Keep up the good work.

    I couldn’t have chosen a better opponent. A Mendacious Misanthrope and a Korrupt Kracker Kretin, Bring him on.

    FOX NEWS: WE NEVER PERMIT A HALF TRUTH. THE WHOLE LIE AND NOTHING BUT THE WHOLE LIE.

  • Bootleghaircut

    “My analogy makes perfect sense, check out the facts before having a knee-jerk reaction. Why is that so hard for you to grasp”

    Of course it makes perfect sense-to a third grader!

    How about this; the trouble maker comes to you and tells you that somebody peed
    in the coffee so you say to him-DRINK IT.

    The best part about your “analogy” is that deep within it you admit Breitbart
    is a “troublemaker” who is not trust worthy. Seems you got that right at least
    dumbass.

  • Azarkhan

    REAL ROYAL KING: I DON’T HAVE EVEN HALF A BRAIN. THE WHOLE FOOL AND NOTHING BUT THE WHOLE FOOL.

  • Bootleghaircut

    “I don’t think you digress here because I don’t see the issue with the RNC inviting Breitbart to address them during an election year cycle. Steele may be pandering and Breitbart may have to work harder to prove to the MSM that he is legitimate…if that’s his goal. I’m not so sure that is his goal…so, I don’t see a conflict of interest.”

    And this is exactly what I said yesterday by certain people seeing Breitbart
    as having done nothing wrong. the RNC will not be cancelling the event
    as so many liberals Opined because the far right will never admit Breitbart
    made a mistake. You would think he would be persona non-gratta but what
    better way to rehabilitate his shitty image than standing with a black
    republican playing the race card? Breitbart is here to stay regardless of
    how many lies he decides to tell-the GOP embraces liars not truth seekers.

  • victor the crab

    Pablo said:
    No, I’m trying to have a dialog with a moron. You?

    I suggest you talk into a mirror if you want that dialogue. ‘kay?

  • lazzzlo

    Bootleghaircut said:
    “Vilsack is the Secretary of Agriculture.”

    Really? Does that mean its not possible for him to be a secret member
    of the Fox News Smear Team? Can you provide proof to the contrary?
    Clearly you forget how powerful and secretive Roger alies is!

    Nyuck!

    Hey man, don’t disparage the 3 Stooges with “Nyuck”.

    Following your logic, Obama is a secretive cabalistic member of a hitherto undisclosed leadership that is soley interested in a one world domination. O

    Greece was the 1st step. The war games around Korea will quickly lead to a capitulation of S. Korea to Kim Il Sung while at the same time the US will allow NATO to kidnap “Paul the octopus” which allows Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to destroy Israel…Cthulu cults worldwide rejoice!

    Obama will then cede power to Al Franken.

    nyuck,nyuck,nyuck!

  • The Real Royal King

    Azarkhan said:
    REAL ROYAL KING: I DON’T HAVE EVEN HALF A BRAIN. THE WHOLE FOOL AND NOTHING BUT THE WHOLE FOOL.

    I see a hit a nerve.

    FOX NEWS: WE NEVER PERMIT A HALF TRUTH. THE WHOLE LIE AND NOTHING BUT THE WHOLE LIE.

  • timzank

    So, in a nutshell, the progressive belief is, “It’s always somebody elses fault”. In other words “We are perfectly entitled to react badly, make rash and stupid decisions to any and all circumstances.”

    That’s kind of the Flip Wilson strategy “The devil made me do it”…

    Much like “the dog ate my homework” defense, you people are such pussies. Grow a pair, take some responsibility.

  • Azarkhan

    “I see a hit a nerve.” Royal

    You? I dismissed you a long time ago. You’re not in my league.

  • Bootleghaircut

    “Hey man, don’t disparage the 3 Stooges with “Nyuck”.

    “Following your logic, Obama is a secretive cabalistic member of a hitherto undisclosed leadership that is soley interested in a one world domination.”

    Actually I’m employing “Breitbart logic” !

    “Greece was the 1st step. The war games around Korea will quickly lead to a capitulation of S. Korea to Kim Il Sung while at the same time the US will allow NATO to kidnap “Paul the octopus” which allows Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to destroy Israel…Cthulu cults worldwide rejoice!

    Obama will then cede power to Al Franken”

    EXACTLY-YOU JUST WROTE BIG GOVERNMENT’S NEXT EXPOSE!

    GOOD JOB!

    NYUCK!

  • Puter Boi

    Oh sure….NOW you tell me about the coffee………

    I need a moment…

  • The Real Royal King

    Azarkhan said:
    You’re not in my league.

    I consider it one of my greatest blessings.

    FOX NEWS: WE NEVER PERMIT A HALF TRUTH. THE WHOLE LIE AND NOTHING BUT THE WHOLE LIE.

  • NORBIT

    So when the President LIES over & over again that GOP & Wall Street were responsible for the Financial debacle, but leaves out FANNIE & FREDDIE – they ENABLED the sub-primes to receive US AAA rating!! – who encouraged the FAILURE, then he’s doing the same thing Breitbart is being accused of doing!

  • Bootleghaircut

    “Oh sure….NOW you tell me about the coffee………

    I need a moment…”

    AND BY THE WAY YOU ARE FIRED!

    CLEAN OUT YOUR LOCKER!

    NYUCK!

  • Bootleghaircut

    “Azarkhan said:
    You’re not in my league.”

    Yeah King-this fool is not even junior varsity quality!

  • timzank

    Bootleghaircut said:
    “Azarkhan said:You’re not in my league.” Yeah King-this fool is not even junior varsity quality!

    Bet you stuffed in a lot of lockers in high school.

  • timzank

    oops “got” stuffed…

    probably a “swirlie” or two in your youth as well.

  • lazzzlo

    Bootleghaircut said:
    “Greece was the 1st step. The war games around Korea will quickly lead to a capitulation of S. Korea to Kim Il Sung while at the same time the US will allow NATO to kidnap “Paul the octopus” which allows Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to destroy Israel…Cthulu cults worldwide rejoice!

    Obama will then cede power to Al Franken”

    Wierdly enough, I was either proud of that or very, very scared.

  • Bootleghaircut

    Little Timmy

    I love it when idiots like you make assumptions! You probably like to pee in people’s coffee!!!!
    Thanks for that view into the inner workings of what you call a “brain”‘

  • lazzzlo

    The Real Royal King said:
    FOX NEWS: WE NEVER PERMIT A HALF TRUTH. THE WHOLE LIE AND NOTHING BUT THE WHOLE LIE.

    Obviously that is a tag line that you will use.

    How about a separate tag line for the news that is omitted by the other major news organizations?

    Something like: “This is all you need to know!” or “”Trust us.”

    Dissent is good.

  • Bootleghaircut

    “‘Wierdly enough, I was either proud of that or very, very scared.”

    Cthulu was a nice touch!! Not many people these days are too savvy on HP
    Lovecraft and his genius.

    For that I salute you.

  • Azarkhan

    “You probably like to pee in people’s coffee!!!!” Bootleghaircut

    Only if you’re drinking.

  • lazzzlo

    Bootleghaircut said:
    You probably like to pee in people’s coffee!!!!

    I’m starting to worry a bit…you have a fixation on coffee and urination.

    Change the filter or throw out the old “pot of coffee” and start again. Or do what anyone else would do when faced in a metaphorical scenario like this…start from scratch. Lower level politicians have a short life span.

    I’d vote for the guy that said he would never pee in my coffee…not for the guy that peed in my coffee nor the manager that pre-empted him by peeing in his coffee.

  • lazzzlo

    Bootleghaircut said:
    Cthulu was a nice touch!! Not many people these days are too savvy on HP
    Lovecraft and his genius.

    Off to work but thanks for the compliment…I was keeping in the satirical theme…plus the whole Iranian President hating on Western cephalods theme was just dying for a Lovecraft response.

  • Bootleghaircut

    “I’m starting to worry a bit…you have a fixation on coffee and urination”

    Hey there little timmy brough the meme into the discussion. I can’t help
    it if I find so stupid that its actually funny.

    “I’d vote for the guy that said he would never pee in my coffee”

    Well that sure wouldn’t be little timmy now would it? Seems he’s done this
    before…and might very well do it again!!!!

    I’d vote for the guy who just starts punching the manager and the other employees
    the moment this nonsense about coffe and urine first comes up.

  • The Real Royal King

    lazzzlo said:
    Obviously that is a tag line that you will use. How about a separate tag line for the news that is omitted by the other major news organizations? Something like: “This is all you need to know!” or “”Trust us.” Dissent is good.

    A point well taken. American media is generally disgraceful these days, from the liars at FOX to the advocacy journalists at MSNBC and all the way through.

    FOX NEWS: WE NEVER PERMIT A HALF TRUTH. THE WHOLE LIE AND NOTHING BUT THE WHOLE LIE.

  • The Real Royal King

    I checked my office coffee maker, and we don’t have a pot or an urn. It’s one of those devices hooked directly to the water line. You insert a pod. I think we’re safe from Timmy’s shenanigans.

    FOX NEWS: WE NEVER PERMIT A HALF TRUTH. THE WHOLE LIE AND NOTHING BUT THE WHOLE LIE.

  • The Real Royal King

    My apologies, Michelle-in-Utah, for all of the coffee conversation.

    FOX NEWS: WE NEVER PERMIT A HALF TRUTH. THE WHOLE LIE AND NOTHING BUT THE WHOLE LIE.

  • Bootleghaircut

    “I think we’re safe from Timmy’s shenanigans.”

    PRAY THAT YOU ARE!!!

  • http://apostrophejones.com Apostrophe jones

    Monica (above) – how you doin ?

  • WilsonTheHeretic

    HAHA! I love Stewart for this, because he’s EXACTLY RIGHT. I don’t think Breitbart is a habitual liar, but he DOES have very clearly stated goals. The left “snookered” itself, and they deserve scorn for it.

  • notsofast

    Azarkhan said:
    “You probably like to pee in people’s coffee!!!!” Bootleghaircut

    Only if you’re drinking.

    Oh, snap! Hello there!

    Boots also likes a nice fudge cookie with his urine.

    And I can’t wait to shit on his grave!

  • Permatiltx

    WilsonTheHeretic said:
    HAHA! I love Stewart for this, because he’s EXACTLY RIGHT. I don’t think Breitbart is a habitual liar, but he DOES have very clearly stated goals. The left “snookered” itself, and they deserve scorn for it.

    Yes, I agree, the left “snookered” itself. They really dropped the ball, and they had a chance to pick up the ball and start playing again, but then they dropped it again. Yes, Jon (as always) was quite accurate with his target. I’m curious though, Wilson, what do you think when Jon attacks FOX or the right? Again, I’m new to this site, and I love discussing the daily show, so do you feel that Jon is right there, do you love him in those cases? I’m not coming at you with an attack, I’m just want to see what the other side of the equation leads to. I don’t think Breitbart is a habitual liar, but I do think he finds it okay to use edited (this video wasn’t really doctored, and I have to apologize if I’ve ever said it was.) to bring down an opponent you don’t agree with. Is that integrity? Or can we close our eyes to integrity if it furthers are own goals? That’s not a question directed at you, that’s a question at our views of media in general.

    And do the left deserve scorn for making a horrible misjudgment or miscalculation? Why the scorn? Did they learn something? Well, let’s hope so. Let’s hope everyone has learned something from this.

  • Permatiltx

    notsofast said:
    Oh, snap! Hello there!

    Boots also likes a nice fudge cookie with his urine.

    And I can’t wait to shit on his grave!

    Ah, so before contributing with the conversation, you started in with the insults. Oh, notsofast, you are quite the enigma. Actually, no. Shitting on someone’s grave represents someone less concerned with the issues and someone more concerned with his own inner insecurities by lashing out against others.

  • PureFreedom

    You See Breitbart is open and honest about who he is and his motive.
    This is what the administration should be also…
    Be honest and tell the people they are only about minority votes! Tell us that Obama really thinks America is a wrongful nation and wants to change it to be more European style government.
    Obama sees things in color and is trying to right this nation on his ideas.
    He does not understand there is only 12% blacks in America and 5% of them are in our prison system.

  • Permatiltx

    PureFreedom said:
    You See Breitbart is open and honest about who he is and his motive.
    This is what the administration should be also…
    Be honest and tell the people they are only about minority votes! Tell us that Obama really thinks America is a wrongful nation and wants to change it to be more European style government.
    Obama sees things in color and is trying to right this nation on his ideas.
    He does not understand there is only 12% blacks in America and 5% of them are in our prison system.

    Well, that’s an easy thing to say, but my question to you is: Was health care reform for black people? Was the stimulus bill for black people? Was Wall Street reform for black people? What specific things did he do only to get the minority vote? Let’s explore that before we start making blanket statements. And just out of curiosity, why the “5% of them are in our prison system?” How does that have basis for the argument? I’m not saying it doesn’t, but could we get a few more specifics so that we can understanding better what it is you’re trying to say?

  • stoogedudes

    Permatiltx said:
    Yes, I agree, the left “snookered” itself. They really dropped the ball, and they had a chance to pick up the ball and start playing again, but then they dropped it again. Yes, Jon (as always) was quite accurate with his target. I’m curious though, Wilson, what do you think when Jon attacks FOX or the right? Again, I’m new to this site, and I love discussing the daily show, so do you feel that Jon is right there, do you love him in those cases? I’m not coming at you with an attack, I’m just want to see what the other side of the equation leads to. I don’t think Breitbart is a habitual liar, but I do think he finds it okay to use edited (this video wasn’t really doctored, and I have to apologize if I’ve ever said it was.) to bring down an opponent you don’t agree with. Is that integrity? Or can we close our eyes to integrity if it furthers are own goals? That’s not a question directed at you, that’s a question at our views of media in general. And do the left deserve scorn for making a horrible misjudgment or miscalculation? Why the scorn? Did they learn something? Well, let’s hope so. Let’s hope everyone has learned something from this.

    Permatiltx, you ROCK! Please keep posting. You bring much needed intelligence to this site’s comments board.

  • notsofast

    Permatiltx said:
    Permatiltx says:

    No one is interested in your hypocritical solipsistic view of the world, child. Not one person.Your unmeritorious conceit , ineffective amateurish pedagogy and inefficacious attempts at psychological analysis must indeed be truly self-mortifying . Maybe you are not embarrassed by yourself but I sure am. You are truly suffering from delusions of adequacy.

    You need a new act, bro. Get one now. But do please continue to post your predictable lib talking points so that we can can witness the sorrowful deluded ramblings of yet another self-important , irrelevant ,hopelessly infected mycotic mind.

    But I do appreciate your staking me, but hey, pal, ya got to get in line. It’s people like you who make my day!

    If I don’t have lib stalkers, I’m not doing my job to racists like YOU!.

    Hubba, hubba

    Smooches!

  • Permatiltx

    notsofast said:
    No one is interested in your hypocritical solipsistic view of the world, child. Not one person.Your unmeritorious conceit , ineffective amateurish pedagogy and inefficacious attempts at psychological analysis must indeed be truly self-mortifying . Maybe you are not embarrassed by yourself but I sure am. You are truly suffering from delusions of adequacy.

    You need a new act, bro. Get one now. But do please continue to post your predictable lib talking points so that we can can witness the sorrowful deluded ramblings of yet another self-important , irrelevant ,hopelessly infected mycotic mind.

    But I do appreciate your staking me, but hey, pal, ya got to get in line. It’s people like you who make my day!

    If I don’t have lib stalkers, I’m not doing my job to racists like YOU!.

    Hubba, hubba

    Smooches!

    Now, you’ve done it again, you did the Permatilt Says: then left it blank. Now, one time, funny. Second time, okay, still funny. Third time, need a new joke.

    I truly love the extensive adjectives that you are using, again, you’ve really picked up on this thesaurus.com thing. Makes me proud I could help you. Look how I’ve already changed your arguing technique. You aren’t using the same tired words that have lost their effect. You are finding new ways to insult, which in the end only helps you. The first time you call someone a lying lib asshole, it has weight. The 100th time you do it, not so much. I’ve made you better in just a few short days.

    I like the delusion of adequacy, but that would mean that I feel what I’m doing is adequate. Far from it. You see, I’m a different adversary than you are used to, I think. If you call me out on something, I own up to it. If the call out was reasonable. You don’t know what to do with that. It’s new, fresh, and instead of being excited, you shrink back. Now, by now, you know how I feel about your problems with your own self esteem. Nothing new there. You want something different, well, let’s try this. I was watching the Daily Show and something made me think about the discussions on this site. When Jon asks Wyatt how do we discuss topics of race in this country. Wyatt’s answer: Like this: “You are!” “No, you are!” Sound familiar? So, I will ask again, how am I a racist? You asked me, and I told you how I thought you were.

    Again, why the attack on my authority. It seems like if I’m so wrong you could plead specific examples. I’m going through each statement that you make and dissecting them, figuring them out, learning. You just want to speak in absurdly large generality. Remember when I said that the need to attack someone’s authority on something is a defense mechanism of someone who is baseless in their attacks. They are afraid that what the person is saying could be deliriously true. It’s fear. Don’t attack my authority, it’s a common logical fallacy. Attack my analysis, specifically. Go line by line if you need to. Maybe you’ll finally see something about yourself. Or maybe you’ve already seen it?

    And by the way, you wrote no one is interested in your hypocritical solipsistic view of the world. Well, read the above comment. That guy seemed interested. Thus, you said a lie again.

    And child, really? I thought we had moved beyond that. Are you regressing? We made such progress. Well, our hour’s up.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    notsofast said:
    No one is interested in your hypocritical solipsistic view of the world, child. Not one person.Your unmeritorious conceit , ineffective amateurish pedagogy and inefficacious attempts at psychological analysis must indeed be truly self-mortifying . Maybe you are not embarrassed by yourself but I sure am. You are truly suffering from delusions of adequacy.

    You need a new act, bro. Get one now. But do please continue to post your predictable lib talking points so that we can can witness the sorrowful deluded ramblings of yet another self-important , irrelevant ,hopelessly infected mycotic mind.

    But I do appreciate your staking me, but hey, pal, ya got to get in line. It’s people like you who make my day!

    If I don’t have lib stalkers, I’m not doing my job to racists like YOU!.

    Hubba, hubba

    Smooches!

    So he is a racist, but the guy who says that the African American population is irrelevant because 5% of the African American population is in jail (with no basis for said argument) isn’t? I’ll be sure and remember that.

  • Iris

    Gramps nutso you can’t stalk someone when they are CONSTANTLY sitting on your doorstep, you have to go away for a long time, so do that and we’ll think about it.

  • Bootleghaircut

    AND THE GOLDEN TROLL BEHEADING AWARD FOR THIS THREAD
    GOES TO…

    Permatiltx

    not only has he completely made a fool out of notsofast he actually managed
    to make him write a whole paragraph without his usual filth.

    APPLAUSE.

    Thanfully notsosmart didn’t post much today because of the asskicking
    he’s been getting from a variety of posters!!!

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAH

    GOOD TIMES INDEED

  • Jackie_Treehorn

    Bootleghaircut said:
    AND THE GOLDEN TROLL BEHEADING AWARD FOR THIS THREAD
    GOES TO…

    Permatiltx

    not only has he completely made a fool out of notsofast he actually managed
    to make him write a whole paragraph without his usual filth.

    APPLAUSE.

    Thanfully notsosmart didn’t post much today because of the asskicking
    he’s been getting from a variety of posters!!!

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAH

    GOOD TIMES INDEED

    Quite surprised that nutso didn’t threaten his typical mother/wife/sister rape. New guy must’ve really got to him.

  • Bootleghaircut

    “New guy must’ve really got to him.”

    I think the term is TKO

  • Arkansas Steve

    By far, the biggest creep in this entire story is:
    The man who threw the ‘racist’ bomb at the Tea Party….
    The man who knocked over the first domino in a long sequence…
    The man who is unfit to hold his job…
    The new leader of the NAACP…
    Ladies and Gentlemen, I present Mr. Ben Jealous, racist and fool!

  • notsofast

    Permatiltx said:
    Now, you’ve done it again, you did the Permatilt Says: then left it blank. Now, one time, funny. Second time, okay, still funny. Third time, need a new joke.

    Hahaha- Your paranoia is palpable. Why in the world would I copy that entire passage of your nonsense and make people have to read your silly drivel? My God, I bet you are equally monotonous in your somnambulistic discussions with yourself. Your fantasies are more deranged than those of Carl Kolchak

    Permatiltx said:
    That guy seemed interested. Thus, you said a lie again.

    If someone lied, why in the world would that concern a hypocritical liar like you?
    You are so well versed in lying, you can no longer tell the truth from your lies, Permafrost.

    Permatiltx said:
    I’m going through each statement that you make and dissecting them, figuring them out, learning.

    LOL- you are a paranoid niggler- nothing more! Buffalo Spring field had you in mind when they sang “Paranoia strikes deep.”

    Permatiltx said:
    They are afraid that what the person is saying could be deliriously true. It’s fear.

    More projection from a delusional blooter – is that the best ya got? I mean that is truly pitiful- embarrassing.

    You have an inferiority complex – and it’s fully justified.

    “You see, I’m a different adversary than you are used to”

    Oh, brother- Nope! you are like the same trite platitudinous libs that they send in here to spew the lib agenda. Adversary? Oooh- that’s sounds scary! Really? That’s funny, I always looked at people on here as commentators not adversaries. I guess you still have that unquenchable lib hatred raging through you.
    Well that’s your problem not mine!

    Don’t attack my authority”

    You have none, psycho! None, zero, zilch, nix, naught! You are nothing more than a panjandrum and a sick, diseased person who goes on the internet to try to impress people because his life is so lacking on so many levels that he finds it necessary to seek out anonymous and potential myrmidons who might be impressed by his “poppycock and balderdash”- and that’s not a dance team, clown.

    Now chop! Chop! I appreciate your obsession with me- I appreciate all my fans. Send me your address and I will send ya an 8” x “10”.

    Smooches!

  • notsofast

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    So he is a racist, but the guy who says that the African American population is irrelevant because 5% of the African American population is in jail (with no basis for said argument) isn’t? I’ll be sure and remember that.

    I was not responding to him.

    Did that guy say AAs where irrelevant? Where? Or did you just make that up? And the 5% remark was superfluous but not unsupportable.

    “Although blacks account for only 12 percent of the U.S. population, 44 percent of all prisoners in the United States are black. ” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States#Race

    ‘According to 2005 Census Bureau statistics, the male African-American population of the United States aged between 18 and 24 numbered 1,896,000. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, 106,000 African-Americans in this age group were in federal or state prisons at the end of 2005. See table 10 of this report. If you add the numbers in local jail (measured in mid-2006), you arrive at a grand total of 193,000 incarcerated young Black males, or slightly over 10 percent.”

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2007/10/young_black_males_headed_for_e_1.html

  • Some_Dude

    Permatiltx, your Kung-Fu is strong.

  • Permatiltx

    notsofast said:
    Hahaha- Your paranoia is palpable. Why in the world would I copy that entire passage of your nonsense and make people have to read your silly drivel? My God, I bet you are equally monotonous in your somnambulistic discussions with yourself. Your fantasies are more deranged than those of Carl Kolchak

    I’m not sure how that represents paranoia. Actually I was commenting on the joke being used quite a lot. He’s said so much without saying nothing, the first time you used it. I’m not sure how I’m paranoid because of that. I think you may have trouble with that word. Why go through the effort of having the quote box. Can’t you just say, @permatiltx (or even the oh so clever permafrost (approx. the fifteenth person to call me that, though first on this site so I credit it you there). We talk about projection here quite a bit, but to call something paranoia without it even being paranoia in no shape and form? What does that say about you?

    notsofast If someone lied, why in the world would that concern a hypocritical liar like you?
    You are so well versed in lying, you can no longer tell the truth from your lies, Permafrost.

    Well, I don’t care about lies unless the lie is about me. Actually, I was using your love for absolutes there. You said no one was interested right after a comment from someone who’s interested. That’s kinda funny, don’t you think? Now, as far as “well versed in lying,” I’m clearly not. And most of the things I’ve said haven’t been lies. They’ve been opinions, they’ve been analysis, and I don’t claim any of these things as fact. Still don’t. But see, the fact that you are having trouble combatting my analysis makes me wonder if perhaps I’m on to something. After all, you’ve changed your arguing style against me, yet I haven’t changed mine. You’ve called dull and repetitive, yet I’m still arguing the same way I was. See, it hasn’t really affected me that much. But I call you out for being unoriginal with your slams and yet, you changed them. You’re repetitive call of “child” disappeared. And I think others on this site may have noticed your tone, your speech, hell, you’re even going through every line now instead of the usual box with nothing in it. You’ve even gotten overly verbose, too. Hmmm, who’s in who’s head right now? Of course, this is in no means the truth. If you are reading the back and forths of notsofast and myself, please take this as just analysis, not truth, not fact. Take these interpretations as you will. You are free to do that, and not me or notsofast has any right to change that.

    notsofastLOL- you are a paranoid niggler- nothing more! Buffalo Spring field had you in mind when they sang “Paranoia strikes deep.”

    You did it again. Paranoia. Odd.

    Oh, nice use of the word niggler. I assume you wanted me to miss the l in that word. Again, nice trap. Didn’t hit it though.

    notsofastMore projection from a delusional blooter – is that the best ya got? I mean that is truly pitiful- embarrassing.

    You have an inferiority complex – and it’s fully justified.

    I’m a comic. We all have inferiority complexes. The difference is what we do with them. You can run from them and hide behind malice, or you can embrace them, and use them to make you a stronger person. (For the record, I’ve used the latter, and I tell some good jokes about it as well. Well, I guess I use humor to hide, but then again, not afraid of it)

    notsofast“You see, I’m a different adversary than you are used to”

    Oh, brother- Nope! you are like the same trite platitudinous libs that they send in here to spew the lib agenda. Adversary? Oooh- that’s sounds scary! Really? That’s funny, I always looked at people on here as commentators not adversaries. I guess you still have that unquenchable lib hatred raging through you.
    Well that’s your problem not mine!

    Now, let’s talk about projections, you said that I am the same trite platitudinous lib that they send in here to spew the lib agenda. Okay, let’s see, who is they? Is this the evil liberal conspiracy? There is a group of liberals who want us to crush the conservative resistance on message boards? Spewing the lib agenda? Let’s read that again, “They send in here to spew the lib agenda.” Now, let’s reread my comment from before: “Now, you’ve done it again, you did the Permatilt Says: then left it blank. Now, one time, funny. Second time, okay, still funny. Third time, need a new joke.” Now, if I was to put these two phrases side by side and asked someone who the paranoid person is, I’m thinking they would choose the first one. Again, odd.

    Wait, so you see these people as commentators and not adversaries. Then why the adversarial tactics. Why the attacks instead of the debates. Why attack someone as a liar when they didn’t lie? Why attack anyone at all? If you see them as just commentators, then do you feel that the way you treat someone is to attack them? How do you deal with your actual enemies?

    And unquenchable lib hatred raging in me. Have you read my comments I’ve made to other people? I question. I comment. I rarely insult (some things I say to come off as condescending). But most important, I don’t have any hatred in my speech. The amount of hate that “spews” (I love that word) from your mouth comes nowhere near the amount of hate that comes out of my mouth. I don’t hate. I love a good debate. And my “agenda” is to have intelligent thoughtful debates that don’t dissolve into name calling. Sometimes to “spread my agenda” I have to get involved in these games with people who don’t even realize they are being played with. It’s fun, oh sure. And I think I’m having more fun (a by-product of hate?) with this that you may be having. Because I think it doesn’t mean I’m lying if that’s not the case. It’s opinion, again, not fact.

    notsofastDon’t attack my authority”

    You have none, psycho! None, zero, zilch, nix, naught! You are nothing more than a panjandrum and a sick, diseased person who goes on the internet to try to impress people because his life is so lacking on so many levels that he finds it necessary to seek out anonymous and potential myrmidons who might be impressed by his “poppycock and balderdash”- and that’s not a dance team, clown.

    The purpose of the don’t attack my authority comment I thought I had made clear. It’s the sign of a weak argument. When having to go after the person’s authority (which in the case that it started it was when you called me an arbiter of racism or something along those lines and I said I wasn’t) it means you don’t have a strong enough argument to back things up. I told you this. Your response: To attack my authority. I know you can’t be this dumb. Again, this is evidence of someone who doesn’t know how to argue.

    notsofastNow chop! Chop! I appreciate your obsession with me- I appreciate all my fans. Send me your address and I will send ya an 8” x “10”.

    Smooches!

    Ah, the old, “They’re obsessed with me” gambit. I guess you know what that means about you. And I would love to send you my address, but I do have trust issues with you right now. Though, if you do have an 8″ x 10″ post it online. I’ve got one of me (not for egotistical reasons, I need to send out headshots to clubs. So, it’s for career reasons).

  • Permatiltx

    Some_Dude said:
    Permatiltx, your Kung-Fu is strong.

    Thanks

  • loupgarous

    I can die now, I’ve seen it all – Jon Stewart acknowledging that Andrew Breitbart is more honest than Barack Obama and the NAACP.

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