@Jelperman: Breitbart says that someone mailed him the two clips. He obviously did some enhancing because I don’t think his source added the slides and I don’t know if he had pared the original submission, but throughout his appearances that were embedded on this site, he said that he had only received the clips and not the full video.

I’ve actually theorized once or twice in comments to this and another blog that he may have been victimized by ACORN because he was so thoroughly taken down.

Anyways, I think it’s good that if all of this is true, he deserves a kick in the pants so to speak. Having a huge ego is OK, whatever. But if you’re a dick to your staff and treat women negatively because they’re women, well, that has to stop.

That said, it’s amazing that conservatives are championing an anti-misogynist cause. Guys, that ball has never and will never be in your court.

This woman has taken her 15 minutes of fame and turned into nothing more than a Cindy Sheehan. What a clymer she is turning out to be.

The good old media calls her Nelson Mandella (quote Gergan, that jerk)…..and the media has gotten their new talking points from the new journolist (cabalist).

Pathetic.

Hey, where is Palin’s response on Journolist? Too good for ya’ll to post here?

Olbermann does not doctor footage (like Breitbart), does not send semen-crusted little stalker-producers out to harass people who criticize him (like Falafel O’Reilly), does not run a concert scam nor lead a baying mob of necrophile fundies to hassle a man who pulled the plug on his dead wife (like Hannity) and is NOT a white supremacist dope addict (like Limbaugh). For you (or these passive-aggressive weenies on Journolist) to try present heckling and ridicule as in any way comparable to lying, race-baiting and other forms of thuggery is proof of YOUR dishonesty and lack of character.

As for the Heathers Journolist twerps, talking smack about people behind their backs is pure chickenshit, so I have no sympathy for their exposure by Tucker Carlson (chickenshit being an area of his expertise).

Of course now that he’s score-settling, first with Olbermann because of the belittling tweets toward him and his website, I’m sure they’re digging to find somebody saying something against Jon Stewart. If it were me, I’d try to make tomorrow’s “revelation” something worth mentioning on a Sunday show and then either on Sunday or Monday, I’d expect the headline to say that Stewart is short.

Apostrophe jones said:
Traitor Joe Klein , as most know now , is the Daily Caller ’s source for the Journolist . It’s time to resign , Joe . Go back home to the Ozarks . You’ll be welcomed home again , even after Primary Colors . You denied it and then you admitted it . You’ll deny giving up the Journolist , until you admit it . Go back to the homeplace , Traitor Joe . Bring your banjo .

Not sure what evidence exists – if any – that identifies Joe Klein as the culprit, but it is amusing to see just how friendless he is. I mean, does anyone like this guy?

Tommy Christopher said:
the degree of newsworthiness

Tommy,thanks for the response. As an outsider (consumer) watching an industry trying to redefine its ethics, to keep pace with its changing medium, I wonder if sometimes the degree of newsworthiness is directly or inversely related to the degree of seperation.

Magister said:
@tatboy: “Meat”, what meat? Today we learned that a couple of guys on a mailing list didn’t care for Keith Olbermann’s style and yesterday, a commenter to this blog spammed the place with something a 26(?) year old blogger suggested that was met with deathly silence from others on the list.

What makes it even odder is that the fellow who made the suggestion was actually dismissed from his most legitimate gig because he inappropriately volunteered in a blogpost to skullf**k a terrorist’s corpse. So it’s not like he has a reputation for holding his tongue and that’s probably why he currently blogs for a tech site that has been nicked for questionable journalistic standards.

There’s nothing there. Carlson’s site threw out a couple of over-hyped bits about Palin, Wright and Fox to draw in the clicks and now he’s settling a score with Olbermann.

Well I guess it just comes down to opinion? If you think there is nothing there newsworthy than nothing I say will convince you. I do agree they are over-hyped… hot headlines to draw in the clicks. Thank God no other news sites do that ;). You make good points i just disagree. I think there is enough there to publish… your reading about it aren’t you?

What makes it even odder is that the fellow who made the suggestion was actually dismissed from his most legitimate gig because he inappropriately volunteered in a blogpost to skullf**k a terrorist’s corpse. So it’s not like he has a reputation for holding his tongue and that’s probably why he currently blogs for a tech site that has been nicked for questionable journalistic standards.

There’s nothing there. Carlson’s site threw out a couple of over-hyped bits about Palin, Wright and Fox to draw in the clicks and now he’s settling a score with Olbermann.

The J-List story is a HUGE story, but the media folks seem to want to cover it up….while screaming about lack of transparency in government…..they are clamming up to ensure lack of transparency regarding j-list story.

I am surprised I haven’t seen Palin’s response posted here, it should be.

The funniest thing of all, TVNewser is completely silent on the story….not a peep.

The latest regarding the Obama staffer who was a member of J-list, and after Obama was elected, invited J-listers to the WH is a pretty big story too. collusion between media and a presidential candidate was always suspected, but now with proof positive, it is no wonder the media is trying to discredit Tucker rather than admitting the errs of their own ways.

Kind of like Obama – point fingers everywhere except at themselves.

As for his misogyny, I’ve generally left it to others to call him out, but he was the nerdy kid who chased around jocks. The nerd boy probably didn’t do well with girls and some of the athletes he was trying to impress had the attention of so many, they felt at ease belittling them as some kind of male-bonding, fraternization ritual.

It may be dime store psychology, but I’m sure that just like in his youth, Keith is still getting accolades for his intelligence and he still wants to be cool. Of course, I don’t know that I’ve ever written this down before and maybe someone would like to call me on it, but whenever I’ve revealed in a blogpost or a comment that I don’t care much for his current style, I haven’t received a lot of flak and many of those who have given me a nudge, a lot of them are just trying to be protective of the in-crowd.

MichelleF said:
Sorry, this is off topic. I was going to email it to Mediaite, but who are we kidding, they wouldn’t touch it. I’d just get another email from Colby to “check myself:.

White House Emails Show More Extensive Improper Contact With Google

http://nlpc.org/cached/white-house-emails-show-more-extensive-improper-contact-google.html?q=stories/2010/07/22/white-house-emails-show-more-extensive-improper-contact-google

Michelle where are you from?

White House Emails Show More Extensive Improper Contact With Google

http://nlpc.org/cached/white-house-emails-show-more-extensive-improper-contact-google.html?q=stories/2010/07/22/white-house-emails-show-more-extensive-improper-contact-google

And that is it sara. The conservation moved on. There is nothing more to it than that. So the headline “FOX HUNT: Liberal journalists suggest government shut down Fox News” is a distortion of epic magnitude, to say the least.

Again, what is the difference between “majority” and “a lot”? Please explain. Seems like semantics to me.

sarainitaly said:
I think it is very newsworthy and important to know that members of the liberal media conspired to help Obama win the election, bury stories that hurt him, label his opponents racist, shut down a conservative news organization and planned their attack on Palin.

paulmdoro said:
No one tried to shut down a conservative news organization sara! That did not happen. Categorically, 100% false. This is the problem with just taking Tucker at his word.

LOL! So funny that you jump at that one…

Anyway, in my list making I misstated, I should have said – they discussed whether it was possible that the gov could pull their FCC license. In other words – shut down the opposition.

paulmdoro said:
It’s also interesting that Carlson claims he isn’t posting all of them due to their “banal” nature. So even though the majority of them are “banal” the listserv is still somehow a grand, well-organized, and dangerous conspiracy?

Hmmmm wonder where you got that from?

http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/21/liberal-journalists-suggest-government-shut-down-fox-news/2/

“In other words, Journolist is extremely important because it was a place where liberal elites congregated to synchronize their line of attack, but Journolist is extremely unimportant because a lot of what was going on on the list was “bitchy” and “banal.” ” ~Frances

Or in other words, a lot of the content was irrelevant to prove liberal media conspiracy theories, and contained tacky juvenile attacks on people in DC that Carlson chose not to publish.

Or said another way:

In other words, Journolist is extremely important because it was a place where liberal elites congregated to synchronize their line of attack, but Journolist contained a lot of unimportant “bitchy” and “banal emails as well, that would serve no purpose except to embarrass or hurt innocent third parties.”

I don’t think Carlson was saying Journolist was unimportant, just juvenile and boring. ~sarainitaly

And he didn’t say a majority, he said “a lot”.

If an employee of mine was accused of something serious, I would suspend them and check the facts before I would fire anyone. How dumb was the Obama administration? They hurt Sherrod not Breitbart.
If they had followed my procedure they would have made fools out of Breitbart and any others that jumped to conclusions without checking the facts first.

lanquihue said:
Carlson made reference to that when he editorialized about Journolist yesterday. Everyone keeps their mail. Everyone. (and I can’t imagine that journalists don’t do it religiously) Carlson challenged anyone on the list to come forward with emails revealing that any of the stuff that he’d printed so far was taken out of context.

Thinking further, I wouldn’t doubt that some of it was taken out of context, but to prove it was, someone would have to come forward with emails that perhaps would be more damning that what Carlson printed. A little game, maybe?

Who doesn’t?

ronke a said:
From the article that you linked, Carlton used the phrase “a lot” which does not equate to most.

Holy semantics Batman! How do you differentiate between “most” and “a lot”?

ronke a said:
Paul, “not posting all of them” does not equate to “the majority.” How did you arrive at the conclusion that the “majority” of the journolist postings are banal from the statement Carlson made? I was just wondering because your conclusion there seemed like a jump to me.

Tucker Carlson: Most of Journolist Archive “Banal”
http://www.frumforum.com/tucker-carlson-most-of-journolist-archive-banal

paulmdoro said:
t’s also interesting that Carlson claims he isn’t posting all of them due to their “banal” nature. So even though the majority of them are “banal” the listserv is still somehow a grand, well-organized, and dangerous conspiracy?

Paul, “not posting all of them” does not equate to “the majority.” How did you arrive at the conclusion that the “majority” of the journolist postings are banal from the statement Carlson made? I was just wondering because your conclusion there seemed like a jump to me.