LOL….that’s actually hilarious.

Here is Obama June 2008:

“…then I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth.”

What a fraud.

Agreed, Colby. Dobbs just shows more of the mean spirit that Obama has been dealing with since day one from the right. The do not seek to help. They just want him to fail. No matter what he says or does, it is not good enough for them.

I thought we weren’t supposed to even criticize a President during war time?

That’s what I kept hearing on Fox for 8 years when Bush was President, btw.

I was called “unpatriotic.”

Funny how it’s suddenly very patriotic to critique Obama now during wartime.

Colby Hall:
“There is plenty on which one can be fairly criticize President Obama and his rhetoric. But to criticized Obama’s candid assessment of how he feels that he’s been treated by the media by calling him a baby sort of proves the president’s point.”

I’m sorry Mr. Hall but Obama is a whiner. This article….well it’s just another biased piece by Mediaite.

shootfromthehip said:
Funny how it’s suddenly very patriotic to critique Obama now during wartime.

Or how about the fact that it’s “patriotic” to pay your taxes. LOL….man you whiners are something else. Poor wittle Obama…hims just a whittle guy…hims needs a hug. LOL…..I have no sympathy for one of the worlds most powerful men. Republican or Democrat, if he can’t take pressure from the idiot press or pundits then he has no buisness being in that seat.

Lou Dobbs is a blithering idiot, pure & simple. God our politics is moronic.

Coly, how was the Young Communist League picnic on Labor Day? Obama is a joke. He is a crybaby. He needs people like you to defend him.
Sorry some of your comrades are jumping ship. As Matthews and Maureen Dowd leed the Red Brigade into the turn on Obama parade we can watch them re-group behind some other leftest.

DONTCHA JUST LOVE THE FOX “NEWS” HOUR??!!?!?!?!

DingleBarry’s too busy sucking the life out of the nation to suck his thumb. But either way, he definitely is the suckiest POSident this nation ever had.

The good ole ‘ days back in 2008

“We are the ones we’ve been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.”
- Barack Obama

“Obama is, of course, greater than Jesus.”

– Politiken (Danish newspaper)

“No one saw him coming, and Christians believe God comes at us from strange angles and places we don’t expect, like Jesus being born in a manger.”

–Lawrence Carter

“Many even see in Obama a messiah-like figure, a great soul, and some affectionately call him Mahatma Obama.”

– Dinesh Sharma

“We just like to say his name. We are considering taking it as a mantra.”

– Chicago] Sun-Times

“A Lightworker — An Attuned Being with Powerful Luminosity and High-Vibration Integrity who will actually help usher in a New Way of Being”

– Mark Morford

“What Barack Obama has accomplished is the single most extraordinary event that has occurred in the 232 years of the nation’s political history”

– Jesse Jackson, Jr.

“This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”

– Barack Obama

“Does it not feel as if some special hand is guiding Obama on his journey, I mean, as he has said, the utter improbability of it all?”

– Daily Kos

“He communicates God-like energy…”

– Steve Davis (Charleston, SC)

“Not just an ordinary human being but indeed an Advanced Soul”

– Commentator @ Chicago Sun Times

“I’ll do whatever he says to do. I’ll collect paper cups off the ground to make his pathway clear.”

– Halle Berry

“A quantum leap in American consciousness”

– Deepak Chopra

“He is not operating on the same plane as ordinary politicians. . . . the agent of transformation in an age of revolution, as a figure uniquely qualified to open the door to the 21st century.”
– Gary Hart

“Barack Obama is our collective representation of our purest hopes, our highest visions and our deepest knowings . . . He’s our product out of the all-knowing quantum field of intelligence.”

– Eve Konstantine

“This is bigger than Kennedy. . . . This is the New Testament.” | “I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don’t have that too often. No, seriously. It’s a dramatic event.”

– Chris Matthews

“[Obama is ] creative imagination which coupled with brilliance equals wisdom . . . [He is] the man for this time.”

– Toni Morrison

“Obama’s finest speeches do not excite. They do not inform. They don’t even really inspire. They elevate. . . . He is not the Word made flesh, but the triumph of word over flesh . . . Obama is, at his best, able to call us back to our highest selves.”

– Ezra Klein

“Obama has the capacity to summon heroic forces from the spiritual depths of ordinary citizens and to unleash therefrom a symphonic chorus of unique creative acts whose common purpose is to tame the soul and alleviate the great challenges facing mankind.”

– Gerald Campbell

“We’re here to evolve to a higher plane . . . he is an evolved leader . . . [he] has an ear for eloquence and a Tongue dipped in the Unvarnished Truth.”

– Oprah Winfrey

“I would characterize the Senate race as being a race where Obama was, let’s say, blessed and highly favored. That’s not routine. There’s something else going on. I think that Obama, his election to the Senate, was divinely ordered. . . . I know that was God’s plan.”

– Bill Rush

“This is how we live now.”

Colby..
This is how we in this country have always lived. Go back through history…check out the outlandish editorials….vicious cartoons…nasty partisan columnists…speeches on both the Senate and House floors. It’s been going on for centuries. The only difference is that we can all see them now….it’s instantaneous. Nobody has, nor seems to want, a “governing device” to control their mouths….their pens…their tweets. That’s part of living in a free society.
Whining back and forth is nothing new. For some of us…it’s actually quite entertaining.

so Dobbs criticizing is proving the President’s point? and that point is that he get’s criticized? Him and his people have propped him up to a level, sure the media types who are overwhelmingly left-wing and LOVE a storyline got in balls deep, some were even ‘dogging’ Hillary Clinton.

fundraisers, campaigning, oh lookee the stimulus worked trips, interfering with air traffic and ground traffic….wayyyyy too many trips (ZOMGWTF CO2), I wish the office would be apolitcal.

The best thing for him to do would be go to NYC on 9/11 and have a magnificent speech, politically and actually. None of his people are smart enough for this. Sure maybe that oven is a little warm from 2 blocks away still, but I don’t know his reason to not go.

“But to criticize [Sarah Palin's] candid assessment of how she feels that she’s been treated by the media by calling her a baby sort of proves [her] point.” Colby Hall

Thank’s Colby!

shootfromthehip said:
Agreed, Colby. Dobbs just shows more of the mean spirit that Obama has been dealing with since day one from the right. The do not seek to help. They just want him to fail. No matter what he says or does, it is not good enough for them.

It’s obvious Lou Dobbs had to bring himself down to Obama’s level.

“The best thing for him to do would be go to NYC on 9/11 and have a magnificent speech, politically and actually.”

If Obama did that, Fox news and the usual haters (Rush, Sarah) would just say “Obama is trying to capitalize on the deaths of 3000 Americans and he is seeking sympathy for political gain.”

Once again, nothing he does will please the right.

Fuck Lou Dobbs.He got his ass fired from CNN for being a birther.Dobbs at one time was a respected business reporter but instead of sticking to something he knows about he fell off the wagon and is now no better than low life shitholes like Bill O”Reilly,Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck.

The whole basis of this conversation is stupid, the President going to the Pentagon to honor those killed on 9/11, uh.. only the crazies would see something wrong with that!!

Not long ago Barry was bragging on being a mongrel !
Now the poor thing thinks he is being treated like one !
Which,BTW is one damn good thing in my house..Ask LiL’ Dog !!

Anyone thinking Barry’s treatment is getting rough ? TOUGH !!
I think it is just honest analysis.

George W took it with GRACE ! And he was brutalized by the
MSM and you lefty loons 24/7

Live with it !

Dobbs wasn’t fired. Some of the loco amnesty and open border radicals, fired a gun at his wife. The leftwing is responsible for these crazed nuts.

Why does Obama speak with a different dialect, when he’s addressing a group of union members? Sounds like ebonics lite.

newzmaker oh yeah Dobbs got fired.It’s one thing you wingnuts don’t understand.CNN unlike talk radio and trash rightwing web sites cannot have an on air host saying the President of the US might not be eligible because he might have been born outside of the US.It would be like having 9-11 truthers on discussing that it might be possible that George W Bush knew in advance about the 9-11 attacks.You do it and you get a pink slip.

shootfromthehip said:
If Obama did that, Fox news and the usual haters (Rush, Sarah) would just say “Obama is trying to capitalize on the deaths of 3000 Americans and he is seeking sympathy for political gain.”

And you know this because that’s what the left did to Bush. Thanks, shoot!

Dobbs was so totally fired, and not just let go, he was shit-canned like last week’s meatloaf, mostly over a ratings free-fall, but probably also due, in part, to the fact that he’s a pathological liar:

Interviews with the New Jersey State Police yielded a rather different assessment of the events described by Dobbs. In a phone interview conducted yesterday, Sgt. Stephen Jones, a NJ State Police spokesperson, chuckled out loud after he heard about Dobbs’ account of the gunfire incident. Jones commented that he “wouldn’t classify it [the gunfire incident] as very unusual.” He also confirmed that there are hunters in the area, and stated that, “at this time of year hunter [shooting] complaints go up.”

[...]

Another New Jersey State Police spokesperson, Sgt. Julian Castellanos, noted that “it’s a wide open area and there are hunters in the area.” Castellanos explained that the bullet had hit the house in vicinity of the attic; it “hit the vinyl siding and fell to the ground” without penetrating the vinyl, he said.

While Lou Dobbs’ wife, Debi Lee Segura, was standing outside the house at the time of the gunfire, the bullet did not come close to her; it “struck at the apex of the house, near the roof,” and thus considerably higher than a standing person, Jones observed.

Jones says he had not seen any mention of death threats in the reports about this incident. As Dobbs stated on his October 26 radio show, the CNN host had “decided not to report” “threatening phone calls” he says he has received.

[...]

When asked to comment for this story, Dobbs disputed the New Jersey State Police’s account, saying in an email that “there was no hunting season underway three weeks ago.” However, an official at the NJ Division of Fish and Wildlife Bureau of Law Enforcement confirmed in a phone interview that state hunting seasons were underway at the time of the gunfire incident three weeks ago.

[Reported by Brooklyn-based, free-lance journalist Isabel Macdonald]

Lou Dobbs, if you hang out with people who have a good name, you will eventually have a good name. If you hang out with people who are rich, you will probably become rich. If you hang out with people who stink, you will soon stink, if you hang out with people who drink, you will probably soon drink. Choose your friends wisely, you will become as they are.

newz, you old right wingers just believe whatever you want, thats why you got the stoopid so bad, just cause you SAY Dobbs wasn’t fired you think everybody else doesn’t know the FACTS that the birther Dobbs was an embarrassment and was so fired that the fox hasn’t even hired him

Iris said:
newz, you old right wingers just believe whatever you want, thats why you got the stoopid so bad, just cause you SAY Dobbs wasn’t fired you think everybody else doesn’t know the FACTS that the birther Dobbs was an embarrassment and was so fired that the fox hasn’t even hired him

Lets hear it for Moms Mabley , ladies and gentlemen .

Jeeze, BE i had to do the google on that, you gotta have some serious years on you so i say you might want to do something a little more productive in your waning months of life

Pablo said:
And you know this because that’s what the left did to Bush. Thanks, shoot!

When W stood on a smoldering pile of death in lower Manhattan, and issued the most famous and moving words of his natural born life – “I can hear you, the rest of the world can hear you and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon.” – even the most dyed-in-the-wool lefties felt the inspiration and applauded the sentiment and its effect on the populace. Even after nine months spent systematically eradicating all things “Clinton” from the Federal government, Democrats stood on the steps of Capitol Hill and sang with their Republican colleagues. Dems could have railroaded their entire agenda through Congress using reconciliation on budget items and fixed the rest in the lame duck session, but they choose to try to work with the GOP instead. Liberals have demonstrated time and time again that we’re willing to set aside provincial differences for the greater good. And every time, every single fucking time! the GOP takes advantage of the political opening, and rank-and-file conservatives mock us for being insufficiently submissive to Republican righteousness. Any moment liberals take to be introspective and wonder aloud if a proposal is really a good idea, is taken as a sign of weakness and pounced on as a lack of moral fiber.

There is a very simple difference between these attitudes: one values process, the other values outcome. Of course, the cons will say they are the original champions of America and it’s process-based form of government, but that would be a lie, since conservatives in 1776 were called “Tories,” and they sided with England. The biggest mistake America ever made was not sending those treasonous bluebloods back to Blighty where they belonged. At least now we wouldn’t have their descendants claiming the mantle of original American patriot despite the truth that their ancestors are actually the first American traitors.

(Yeah, I used a LOT of blanket statements here. Cons like to play “typical Dem,” “lefties always…” “lefties never…” “liberals think…” and so on. If we want to have a discussion, let’s have discussion. If we want to having a shouting match, I’m going to see to it that my side wins… and we can because the facts are on our side… as usual.)

“There is plenty on which one can be fairly criticize President Obama and his rhetoric. But to criticize Obama’s candid assessment of how he feels that he’s been treated by the media by calling him a baby sort of proves the president’s point.”

Can you imagine that statement being made by about Republican politician in the world?

Imagine if presidents Bush or Reagan had suggested that strong criticism against them, about ANY issue (let alone a faltering economy), was the rhetoric of powerful institutionalized Washington interests that wish to control the country?

Regardless of whether this was a “candid” assessment of these president’s true feelings of their public treatment (or merely rhetoric designed to portray critics as a grasping ominous oligarchy…), they would have been pilloried such a simplistic portrayal of their opponents.

Bush would have rightly been ballyhooed

Iris said:
Jeeze, BE i had to do the google on that, you gotta have some serious years on you so i say you might want to do something a little more productive in your waning months of life

Sorry , Aunt Esther .

Sorry BE I’m not mean to really old people like you, i actually feel sorry for them so you’ll have to continue without my input but it is a mystery to me why old people like you waste the time you have left sitting around doing stuff like this, don’t you like have a family or friends

Big Eddie said:
Sorry , Aunt Esther .

hahahaha!

“Kelly asked Dobbs for his thoughts, pointing out that President Bush’s staff also spoke about the harsh criticisms that his administration endured”

Staff!!!!

Not to this degree and amount have I heard the President themselves deliver the criticism. I believe Presidents have traditionally had their staff, cabinet, advisors, party figures do the “dirty work”. You know, to keep the President above the fray and out of the bad optics.

I hope the rheteric such as ‘it’s their fault, their treating me ill, the press is horrible, opposing party are the bad guys/girls etc. etc. does NOT becoe te norm for future Presidents.

That’s a new tradition we ALL don’t need. It’s hard to govern that way and those of us not a politician or with no political affiliations will only suffer the most.

No wonder ‘we’ complain so often regardless of which party is in power. Somethings always wrong, bad, ill fated, the boogey man. Real LACK of leadership in Politics these days (years and years now) We don’t need our President to fall into that norm.

Reminds me of when my son in grade school that received ‘bad’ grade that it was his teachers fault. Teacher didn’t like him. Teacher has it out for him, teacher doesn’t beleive him.

I know, a bit critical. But that looks more like reverse gear than it does Drive. We need some hefty leadership only minus all the BS political antics

Well, you know, ageism isn’t a very good defense against racism, Iris. Just swapping “isms.”

But I know why Iris did it… Moms Mabley? Really? I suppose “Stepin Fetchit” would have been the choice if Iris had a man’s name? C’mon, Big fella. ;-)

Paul Westlake. The last time Republicans and democrats really worked together was Ronald Reagan and Tip O’Neil. No administration has had that kind of relationship since. It came close in Clinton’s second term when he moved towards the center and became the kind of President moderate Republicans like Gingrich could work with.
There can be no compromise between Republicans and Nancy Peelosi. The woman is an idiotlog and has no common sense. Thank God the woman is going to get her skank ass demoted on mistake correction day in November.

(but Obama is a thumb sucking whiney baby pee pants.)

Obama is thin skinned. The problem is he was pampered by the left on the way up with little critique (even from the Clintons) and now you are seeing a product of this pampering.

The President of the US should be able to take this kind of criticism otherwise countries that hate the US will have a field day with him and he will ask for time out.

Is there a Presidential soother he can use?

ChuckfromTacoma said:
Paul Westlake. The last time Republicans and democrats really worked together was Ronald Reagan and Tip O’Neil. No administration has had that kind of relationship since. It came close in Clinton’s second term when he moved towards the center and became the kind of President moderate Republicans like Gingrich could work with.

Interesting that your definition of bipartisanship requires Democrats to be centrist and compromise on their ideals only, while Republicans seem to be perfectly formed and cannot “work” with Dems that are insufficiently compromising. Yeah, Tom DeLay was a model of compromise. Gingrich actually did compromise, once, but only because he’d overreached to begin with and needed ANY legislative victory before resigning in disgrace.

ChuckfromTacoma said:
There can be no compromise between Republicans and Nancy Peelosi. The woman is an idiotlog and has no common sense. Thank God the woman is going to get her skank ass demoted on mistake correction day in November.

“Peelosi?” “Idiotlog?” “Skank ass?” “Mistake correction day?”

Do you want to have a real discussion or do you want to act like a 4 year-old? Newt Gingrich was antithetical to everything America stands for, as far as I’m concerned, but I wouldn’t accuse him of being stupid – nobody gets to the Speaker’s job lacking common sense OR nerves of steel. Pelosi is a nightmare for Cons because she speaks articulately and is utterly unmoved by right-wing attacks. I don’t agree with everything she does – not a lock-step party wonk – but saying she has no common sense is willful blindness or partisan childishness… or both.

ChuckfromTacoma said:
Paul Westlake. The last time Republicans and democrats really worked together was Ronald Reagan and Tip O’Neil…

Chuck is absolutely right! Ever since the 1980s bipartisanship has been clearly defined as “STFU you communist liberals and do everything we want right now or we’ll shut the government down!!!!1!!!!” Until Nancy Pelosi does each and every single thing that the minority party in Congress asks of her, she will remain an obstructionist loon.

PS – Come January 2011, the majority in Congress will have the right – nay, the God-given obligation – to do only what they want and to patriotically shut their colleagues out of the political process. Amen.

LOL, “idiotlog” was unintentional on this post. Do not know how I did it and won’t concern myself with it (but it does humor me in a small way). Peelosi is so wrapped up in her own ultra-left wing agenda and mind set that she has no grasp of the thoughts or opinions of most Americans (IMHO).
She can take a huge part of the responsibility for the Tea Party movement. She and Harry Reid stuffed shit down our collective throats, without any real disclosure in what was in that sewage. If she thought that we would just choke on it and die, she miscalculated big time. We will flush the drains of that sewer and move the U.S. back to the middle.
When we succeed, we will go back to working to support our family’s and saving for the “rainy days”. Just this next time, we will keep a little closer eye on the crooks to make sure they never bury our kids in debt again.
(I do own “skank ass”, “Peelosi” and “Mistake correction day” as my personal, non-violent expressions of anger and disapproval of the direction our nation has been pushed).

ChuckfromTacoma said:
(I do own “skank ass”, “Peelosi” and “Mistake correction day” as my personal, non-violent expressions of anger and disapproval of the direction our nation has been pushed).

Well, OK, but it’s also “non-adult.”

Funny how when the GOP is in control, railroading multi-trillion dollar tax cuts via reconciliation is A-OK, asking for authorization to attack Iraq as a “last resort” that became the “first resort” before the ink was even dry is A-OK, but when the Dems are in control, have avoided reconciliation, and tried to bring Republicans in on bipartisan legislation, they have “stuffed shit down our collective throats.” Project much?

And I’m sorry, but no you won’t keep an eye on the crooks because the crooks are the people you’re voting for.

That was a pretty slack effort. Wanna try again? ;-)

Not for nothing, Bush was the first President in history to have an entire cable TV network and scores of political radio show hosts essentially operating as the official mouthpieces of the administration. I read Bernie Goldberg’s book, “Bias,” front to back, so don’t even think about citing that hacked screed of nonsensical bullshit. And only the Bushies have been caught faxing talking points to media outlets. Most reporters, liberal or otherwise, work for outlets that are owned and tampered with by neo-con-run corporations – Newscorp, GE, Disney, Viacom, Clearchannel, Sinclair, Comcast, and the list goes on. The very rare appeals to humanity seen in reporting and attacked as liberal bias, is smothered by the editorial selection process. Kinda hard to have a liberal bias about something if it can’t even make air.

By contrast, all the media voices that supported Bush and castigated his detractors as unpatriotic, are now fully arrayed AGAINST this President. Of course Bush didn’t whine about his press coverage, because half the media machine was doing it FOR him. Obama doesn’t have those allies, because even Keith Olbermann and Ed Schultz call him out. Bush had TONS of friends in the media. Obama has NO friends in the media… except Oprah, and he can’t just invite her to the pressers. Oh, and “thrill up my leg” Matthews, who is the WORST friend anyone could have on TV! Seriously!

So, yes, righties, you can flay this pony if you like, but it just illustrates an utter lack of critical thinking… as usual.

Paul Westlake, WOW that was just about the dumbest post I have ever read. I would like to answer it but it would take forever.
I am trying to find one item in the list that is close to being true.
Listing GE as a neo-con run corporation is really funny. The guy works for Obama. The company is trying to make money off the global warming hoax. If you are that far out that you believe that you are hopeless.
Another big joke, “only the Bushies have been caught faxing talking points to media outlets”. LOL What planet are you on? Have you ever worked for a media outlet? Campaigns and the White House have been faxing talking points to the media ever since fax machines were invented. You lost ALL credibility with that one.
Nothing you posted is even remotely true.
I don’t know where you came from but you better go back.
At least you use your real name, I credit you for that. But so far you have proven that you still belong in the minor league. You are trying to compete with the big boys here.

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shootfromthehip said:
“The best thing for him to do would be go to NYC on 9/11 and have a magnificent speech, politically and actually.”

If Obama did that, Fox news and the usual haters (Rush, Sarah) would just say “Obama is trying to capitalize on the deaths of 3000 Americans and he is seeking sympathy for political gain.”

Once again, nothing he does will please the right.

You mean like the left did when Bush did the same, what comes around goes around I always say.

gordonbloyershow said:
WOW that was just about the dumbest post I have ever read.

Oh, you say that to all the girls! ;-)

gordonbloyershow said:
I would like to answer it but it would take forever.
I am trying to find one item in the list that is close to being true.

Translation: “Pretty much everything you said is true, but because GE is SO huge, they have their hands in something I can cherry-pick that aligns with my ideology and predetermined assumptions.”

gordonbloyershow said:
Listing GE as a neo-con run corporation is really funny. The guy works for Obama. The company is trying to make money off the global warming hoax.

GE is massive and smart. They don’t believe climate change is a hoax, but they do believe it represents a business opportunity, as most forward-thinking companies do. On the other hand, they’re also in aerospace, durable goods, electronics, and much more, including media, and they aren’t shy about flexing their political muscles to get their way in DC.

gordonbloyershow said:
Have you ever worked for a media outlet? Campaigns and the White House have been faxing talking points to the media ever since fax machines were invented. You lost ALL credibility with that one.

Why, yes, in fact, I have worked for media outlets, BIG media outlets. There’s a difference between a press release and talking points, douchewad.

gordonbloyershow said:
I don’t know where you came from but you better go back.
At least you use your real name, I credit you for that. But so far you have proven that you still belong in the minor league. You are trying to compete with the big boys here.

I don’t know what “show” you’re a part of, Bucky, nor do I care, but I’ll put my 23 years of experience up any time. I’m very confident in my credibility and in my ability to distinguish between a press release and talking points, or between a genuine makeup session in a simple Alaskan cottage and an obvious PR stunt that only the entranced will buy. I know you think this little hysterical feedback loop of yours is the big leagues and that your one of “big boys,” but where I come from, the real “big boys” go by names like ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, CNN, MSNBC, BBC, NHK, ITV, SKY, etc, etc, etc… getting the “picture?” Now, I’ll admit I only worked for two of those outfits, but I have the resume and contacts to back it up. So next time you want to send someone back to the minors, you might want to consider that you’re already there.

Have nice day.

Lou, you’re dead and gone – so shut up and stop breathing….

Paul Westlake, well big shot, I guess if I google your name I will come up with some info on all your vast experience. Since I have worked for a elected government official and I have written press releases I would venture to say I know what they are. Maybe that while you were cleaning the restroom at one of those networks they didn’t let you see the talking points.
Since I have run political campaigns I have also sent out talking points.
Jeff Imelt is an advisor to Obama. The ONLY way GE will make money on the global warming hoax is to get government contracts to buy junk they are pushing.
I guess all your press experience did not tell you should know who you are talking to before you shoot off your mouth.

Wow, I was looking forward to reading about the famous Paul Westlake, no luck a Google search turned up a famous photographer and a lawyer but no network employee.
I guess janitors don’t show up on Google.

Colby Hall: “Dobbs chose not to soften his rhetoric, instead upping the sophomoric ante by ostensibly calling the sitting U.S. President a cry baby. This is how we live now.”

Looks like someone else is a little bit thin skinned, as well. :) And Dobbs is being sophomoric how, because he can look at Obama and describe what he sees? Obama is acting like a thin skinned cry baby, and it’s pretty unbecoming for a sitting president to throw temper tantrums like a spoiled brat screaming for candy in the grocery check out line.

So apparently, my several attempts to reply in detail have gone into the ether. Let’s see if this comment will post. Maybe I’ll put my reply on a different thread if this one is going bust…

Yeah, so my long-winded posts have been disappeared by the system. Let me try it in small doses.

gordonbloyershow said:
Paul Westlake, well big shot, I guess if I google your name I will come up with some info on all your vast experience. Since I have worked for a elected government official and I have written press releases I would venture to say I know what they are. Maybe that while you were cleaning the restroom at one of those networks they didn’t let you see the talking points.
Since I have run political campaigns I have also sent out talking points.
Jeff Imelt is an advisor to Obama. The ONLY way GE will make money on the global warming hoax is to get government contracts to buy junk they are pushing.
I guess all your press experience did not tell you should know who you are talking to before you shoot off your mouth.

gordonbloyershow said:
Wow, I was looking forward to reading about the famous Paul Westlake, no luck a Google search turned up a famous photographer and a lawyer but no network employee.
I guess janitors don’t show up on Google.

Well, imagine my shock that you would do a search and not find me to be famous. I know the Paul Westlake fashion photographer that also works in NYC, not personally, but because we’ve both fielded phone calls for jobs for the other one. And the lab we both use to develop high-end still photography (Ducal) has accidentally given us each others’ packages once or twice. Very funny!

I know how furiously you ran to search and confirm I wasn’t a famous media personality, because calling out your terminal stupidity after making your self out to be one of the “big boys” must’ve been pretty rude. ;-)

Alas, producers don’t get a lot of face time with the camera. And unless I want to put material out there, it’s not going to be on the web in my name. I only have a couple pieces of video up on the web from my last full-time job with Major League Baseball, along with a memorial video to my father, who was kind of a big deal in literary circles.

. But I also include a couple videos that are still up on MLB.com, for your amusement:

Yankees React to World Series Win – Camera on field & in locker room (held mic on Cashman and Swisher)
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=7123649

Phillies Women’s Baseball Clinic – Producer, Camera, Script, Editor
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=4568639

Wounded Warrior Project – Co-producer, Interviewer, Editor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T_oTccR7Hw

Stand Up To Cancer (:30 PSA for stadiums) – Producer, Editor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRoqIhq_eF8

Donald Westlake Memorium (100% produced from archival sources) – Producer, Editor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ant1o2WBng

I worked for CNN in the early 90s when they were on CompuServe and I was a moderator on one of their boards that was connected to a live show. That was actually my first taste of real editorial and it lasted for three years – great experience in news writing and deadline decision-making. I also did an amazing stint with the BBC in Newcastle, UK in ’05/’06, where I had my “equal time” blinders removed. Oh, I forgot my stint with RTV, Holland, in ’06/’07. Why stints? Because I was working with MLB during the summer. My fiancee is an AP at ABC News. And nowadays I’m a consultant, working with businesses and schools on improving media relations, incorporating new media, and developing lessons that bring traditional journalists into the new tech age of one-person video journalism, among other things.

I have written extensively on the subject of media, but instead of writing a book, I’m working on creating a new news organization that will blow CNN and Fox out of the water. Unfortunately, it’s a multi-billion dollar start up, so the biz plan needs to be pretty tight. ;-)

(Wow, Mediaites boards REALLY suck. What is this, the middle ages?)

Paul, in several comments, you’ve said nothing substantive, only whiny stuff about Bush and weird stuff about you that seems to indicate an inferiority complex. I hope you can change. :)

I’ve written extensively on the subject of media, but instead of writing a book, I’m working on creating a news organization that will blow CNN and Fox out of the water. Unfortunately, it’s a multi-billion dollar start up, so the biz plan needs to be pretty tight. ;-)

Think I’m full of shit? Take my survey and say so: http://broadcastnewspoll.blogspot.com/p/dilapidated-fourth-estate.html

Think I’m totally full shit? Read this:
The Amplifier vs The Flow: New Media’s Challenge to Traditional Broadcasting
http://wanderinginthezero.blogspot.com/2009/12/amplifier-vs-flow.html

Still think you wanna dance with me? Let’s see your creds, since you just made such a big deal about mine, “big boy.” This time, maybe something other than vague references to famous people who aren’t you.

Moron.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Paul, in several comments, you’ve said nothing substantive, only whiny stuff about Bush and weird stuff about you that seems to indicate an inferiority complex. I hope you can change. :)

That comment suggest you have 2nd grade reading level.

Whatever.

Ah yes, the tactic of ridicule, straight from Rules for Radicals. “Ridicule is almost impossible to counter-attack”. Anyway, you have to be better at it than that, you just come off as dumb. And you dropped the “whatever” bomb, awesome! You must be, like, really,like, soooo cool, like, whatever!

Mr.Papshmer said:
Ah yes, the tactic of ridicule, straight from Rules for Radicals. “Ridicule is almost impossible to counter-attack”.

And yet, I managed to successfully counterattack your ridicule with alacrity, it would appear. You want to pick my points apart, do so. But don’t think you can open with ridicule and then retreat to the victim corner when the same comes back your way. Nice effort, but I don’t like getting your projection all over my clothes. ;-)

Paul Westlake, I don’t like to list all my credits because I get attacked for bragging. But just for you a tiny tiny list that doesn’t include the seven front page stories about me.

First since you mentioned baseball. Photos of me interviewing Frank Robinson, manager of the S.F. Giants. Then of me and Early Wynn.
http://www.gordonbloyershow.org/photos_2007/index.album/photos-2007?i=15

Then there is my interview with Jerry Martin of the Giants and photo of Pete Wilson of KGO TV interviewing me on election night 1984.
http://gordonbloyer.tripod.com/photo.htm

Then a photo of me batting at Candlestick Park against Cy Young winner Mike McCormick. Then me and Campaign Carl Cameron at the CNN YouTube debate. YouTube paid my way to Fla. to cover the event.

http://www.gordonbloyershow.org/photos_2007/index.album/photos-2007?i=30

How is this, me being interviewed by Ronn Owens of KGO radio in S.F. ……….Audio here
http://www.youtube.com/user/gordonbloyershow?feature=mhum#p/u/214/4Ew7h3ooaNw

http://www.youtube.com/user/gordonbloyershow?feature=mhum#p/u/92/Ql0s1Jm-HhM
With Newt Gingrich

http://www.youtube.com/user/gordonbloyershow?feature=mhum#p/u/172/WKXfMU0KIlw With
Rich Galen

No wonder Paul Westlake is so eager to defend Obama – they share the “qualities” of overweening ego, thin skin, and bombast.

Hey, Paul? No “talking points”???? Ever hear of “JournoList,” or did that little kerfuffle go over your head while you were starting your “multi-billion dollar” news outlet that’s going to “blow Fox away”????

And, btw, it might interest you to know that Obama’s campaign received, on average, over THREE TIMES as much money as Bush’s from these very corporations you assert are savaging your Obamessiah – funny, that.

I don’t know where you come up with all your talking points, but they pretty much suck.

Excellent. I feel the same way about credits but you issued the challenge when you questioned my media savvy. I acknowledge your experience. But I still think you opened with a pretty obnoxious salvo, that also happens to be pretty wrong. The talking points story was widely reported and everyone knows it was not about press releases or even remotely like the standard WH schedule everyone gets daily. A media pro wouldn’t even argue that. So maybe you thought you could just get one over on the inexperienced but I think that’s over now. Yes? And if you don’t like bragging, why say I need to go back to the “minors” because this is where the “big boys” play? I really don’t think you should be surprised by my heavy-handed response.

I love a good debate… I mean, I really love it! But I answer in kind. I believe you started with me in your very first comment to me (on another thread), in which you called me names that I can’t be bothered to remember right now… sorry. (But you know, left wing loon, or something like that.) I have already demonstrated to a couple of the vocal conservatives around here that I’m opinionated (and equally obnoxious) but fair. I don’t dismiss factual data that supports my opponent’s arguments, and I’m willing to admit when my information is wrong, or even when an obnoxious zinger was actually clever and funny, despite being aimed at me. Sometimes I read the vitriol dripping from the right and my first post in a thread is just as nasty and generalized. But when the comments come back directed straight at my character, well, we’re gonna rumble. ;-)

I do hope that I haven’t come across as particularly nasty in this comment and that you can appreciate my perspective. I’ll go tooth and nail over ideas and a beer any time, but when we start going after each other, I’m gonna get downright mean. Only way to survive in politics, as you must know by now. ;-)

[Above post directed to gordonbloyershow.]

This post, not so much…

Lamp of Diogenes said:
No wonder Paul Westlake is so eager to defend Obama – they share the “qualities” of overweening ego, thin skin, and bombast.

And you’re an obnoxious ass hole. Nice to meet ya! ;-)

Lamp of Diogenes said:
Hey, Paul? No “talking points”???? Ever hear of “JournoList,” or did that little kerfuffle go over your head while you were starting your “multi-billion dollar” news outlet that’s going to “blow Fox away”????

When you can find the story that proves the Obama administration was emailing WH talking points TO Journolist, you’ll have a point… other than the one on top of your head.

Lamp of Diogenes said:
And, btw, it might interest you to know that Obama’s campaign received, on average, over THREE TIMES as much money as Bush’s from these very corporations you assert are savaging your Obamessiah – funny, that.

You really are a dumbass. Corporations give money to everyone to hedge their bets. The second, literally the instant, Sarah Palin was selected as McCain’s running mate, it became obvious which side would win and the well dried up for McCain as the spigot was opened even wider for Obama. Nothing personal, just business.

Lamp of Diogenes said:
I don’t know where you come up with all your talking points, but they pretty much suck.

I’m hurt. I really am…. zzzzzz

Paul Westlake says:
September 8, 2010 at 1:59 pm Paul Westlake(Quote)

Shorter Paul Westlake:

“I don’t have an answer for your points, so I’ll call you names, you poopie-head!!”

Hey, dumbass, “asshole” is one word. Obama was getting WAY more in corporate contributions, particularly from GE, LONG before McCain selected Palin. JournoList members are, remain, and have been members of various Democratic administrations (the Dem White House/Mainstream Media revolving door never seems to stop spinning – sorta like you).

You’re a partisan hack, with no agenda other than to deny the obvious, defend the indefensible, and pat yourself on the back. Good luck with that. Come around after November, and I’ll clout you with a cluestick – AGAIN.

Lamp of Diogenes said:
“I don’t have an answer for your points, so I’ll call you names, you poopie-head!!”

I answered every one of your idiotic assertions point for point, which anyone with a modicum of gray matter can see. You misquoted me multiple times (not substantively, but enough to make you assertion that asshole – or ass hole – has only one spelling pretty absurd on its face). And btw, dumbass isn’t a word at all, but we both seem comfortable taking some poetic license here, so shut the fuck up about grammar.

Show the evidence, find the link, make the point – or go the fuck home. But you’re right about one thing, I have no agenda. I’m just here to keep shitheads like you honest. If you want to clout me with a cluestick (also not a word), you’re gonna have to go find one first.

I’ll wait… ;-)

BTW, Lamp of Diogenes? And I’M the one with a complex? LOLOL

Paul Westlake, we will meet again, LOL.

Lou & the Republiscum Mind. Yup.

gordonbloyershow said:
Paul Westlake, we will meet again, LOL.

Cheek by jowl. ;-)

Paul Westlake,

You are truly a legend in your own mind. Nowhere else. You have done NOTHING but assert talking points.

You dealt with “every one of your idiotic assertions point for point,” eh?? What is your response to the fact that Obama was receiving corporate contributions, including but not limited to from GE, in double or better the amounts received by McCain, long before McCain selected Palin?

Or the fact that “JournoList” served as a de facto Democratic Party spin machine for years?

Since you are the one who went to the gutter, let me just leave you with, “I’ve left shits in public toilets that evidenced more intellect than you.”

Lamp of Diogenes said:
they share the “qualities” of overweening ego, thin skin, and bombast.

You started it, dipshit. And then you kept at it, and at it. I don’t answer to you and I don’t give a rat’s ass what you think. There is an obvious answer to your questions but I’m not wasting another brain cell on your sorry ass.

No, ASSHOLE, YOU are the one who started the cursing, etc. I merely pointed out your overactive ego and thin skin.

And I don’t give a rat’s ass what you think, either. This is, in case you haven’t noticed, a forum for DISCUSSION.

You idea of discussion seems to be something along the lines of “I COULD answer you, if I wanted to, but I won’t, ’cause you’re a poopie-head.” Fine. I now know that I can safely scroll past anything you post; it will be content-null to content-negative.

Have a nice life, fuckface.

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And now I’m off to do something that is clearly foreign to most of the cons on this board… it’s called work.

Try it sometime… ;-)