Begala is old news….we have hashed this out a thousand times before…but hey…if I were a CNN on-air…I would make stuff up to just to get a viewer.

Good going, Paul!

BECKERHEAD’S GONE PREACHER, AND QUITE THE HERETIC,
O’HANNITY IS A SIMPLY A WORLD CLASS WHINER,
O’REILLY PRESENTS THAT WEIRD BODY LANGUAGE CHICK,
ADD O’VAN SUSTEREN: ASLEEP IN MY RECLINER!

NICE!

Well done Paul.

Tell it like it is.

#truth

This sad little hack Begala is deeply disturbed . …He makes Carville look normal . … Maybe Paul and Sandy Berger should go out and steal something to eat .

BatBoy said:
Begala is old news….we have hashed this out a thousand times before…but hey…if I were a CNN on-air…I would make stuff up to just to get a viewer.

It’s never too late for the truth, however much it may hurt. And, All the Marys in Heaven know Ari has never told the truth about anything during the time he was in the W Administration. Scotty was the only voice of truth in that Administration, and the lies he was forced to tell almost killed him.

BECKERHEAD’S GONE PREACHER, AND QUITE THE HERETIC,
O’HANNITY IS A SIMPLY A WORLD CLASS WHINER,
O’REILLY PRESENTS THAT WEIRD BODY LANGUAGE CHICK,
ADD O’VAN SUSTEREN: ASLEEP IN MY RECLINER!

That’s a fair trade

When the forhead speaks NO ONE listens!

Ari still can’t stop lying.

Sorry libs, but America won in Iraq. I know that breaks your hearts!

That’s why the Democrats voted for the war resolution. They had done their own research, and knew that Bush was lying about WMDs.

writer said:
That’s why the Democrats voted for the war resolution. They had done their own research, and knew that Bush was lying about WMDs.

Scott Ritter knew the truth.

Big Eddie heard a rumor that Begala has a terrible temper and is a bad tipper .

notsofast said:
Sorry libs, but America won in Iraq. I know that breaks your hearts!

What did we win? No WMD’s, so we didn’t make the world any safer for democracy. No 9/11 plotters (since none were Iraqi), so no justice. I guess if several thousand dead Americans, tens of thousands of grieving family members and friends and hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis is winning, then we’re #1.

BECKERHEAD’S GONE PREACHER, AND QUITE THE HERETIC,
O’HANNITY IS A SIMPLY A WORLD CLASS WHINER,
O’REILLY PRESENTS THAT WEIRD BODY LANGUAGE CHICK,
ADD O’VAN SUSTEREN: ASLEEP IN MY RECLINER!

Clinton’s intelligence sources said Iraq had WMDs. British intelligence said they had them. The Dems believed they had them. But Bush was ‘lying’.

MichelleF said:
When the forhead speaks NO ONE listens!

I’m all “for head”, but I suspect you meant “forehead”. You see “fore” is a prefix, a word which precedes another word in a complex noun, and it means in front of.

BECKERHEAD’S GONE PREACHER, AND QUITE THE HERETIC,
O’HANNITY IS A SIMPLY A WORLD CLASS WHINER,
O’REILLY PRESENTS THAT WEIRD BODY LANGUAGE CHICK,
ADD O’VAN SUSTEREN: ASLEEP IN MY RECLINER!

MichelleF said:
When the forhead speaks NO ONE listens!

By the way, which forhead [sic] did you mean? Ari seems to have a great deal more geopgraphy there than Paul.

BECKERHEAD’S GONE PREACHER, AND QUITE THE HERETIC,
O’HANNITY IS A SIMPLY A WORLD CLASS WHINER,
O’REILLY PRESENTS THAT WEIRD BODY LANGUAGE CHICK,
ADD O’VAN SUSTEREN: ASLEEP IN MY RECLINER!

Ari was calm & reasoned but Begala (as usual) lost his mind and started throwing out ad-hominem attacks. It’s the typical debate between someone from the left & someone from the right. The angry left uses personal attacks while the right uses inconvenient truths.

Say “Giddyup”, King. That’s your usual reply when pressed to give an actual answer to a question.

Bush told NO lies about Iraq. If the liberal media and the socialist dems say something is a lie, we are supposed to accept it. LOL. They had their way before Fox News, talk radio and the internet. Now they don’t get to determine what a lie is and who the liars are. They also don’t get to be the speech police and decide what is racist, anti gay or what hate speech is. They still think they can and some republicans fall for this nonsense but we must get rid of the wimps. Stand up to facist biggoted liberals and shove it back down their throats.
This year the world is changing.

Bush knew the truth Scott Ritter told him the truth therefore Bush lied.

And the Dems didn’t check into any of this before voting for the war resolution?

writer said:
And the Dems didn’t check into any of this before voting for the war resolution?

Obama did as a consequence he voted no.

writer said:
Say “Giddyup”, King. That’s your usual reply when pressed to give an actual answer to a question.

To your question? No response is necessary. It’s much like someone saying “Cat feces stink.”

BECKERHEAD’S GONE PREACHER, AND QUITE THE HERETIC,
O’HANNITY IS A SIMPLY A WORLD CLASS WHINER,
O’REILLY PRESENTS THAT WEIRD BODY LANGUAGE CHICK,
ADD O’VAN SUSTEREN: ASLEEP IN MY RECLINER!

ImJustThatDamnGood said:
Obama did as a consequence he voted no.

Indeed.

BECKERHEAD’S GONE PREACHER, AND QUITE THE HERETIC,
O’HANNITY IS A SIMPLY A WORLD CLASS WHINER,
O’REILLY PRESENTS THAT WEIRD BODY LANGUAGE CHICK,
ADD O’VAN SUSTEREN: ASLEEP IN MY RECLINER!

ImJustThatDamnGood said:
Bush knew the truth Scott Ritter told him the truth therefore Bush lied.

Yes. Indeed.

@MichelleF, “When the forhead speaks NO ONE listens!”

As I recall “the forehead”, Carville, and Robert Zimmerman, Hillary Clinton supporters, were muzzled by CNN in 2008 when Obama’s cronies complained about their presence on the network. Now Begala has been reduced to being just another Obama lap dog.

gordonbloyershow said:
facist liberals

Oxymoron, much?

“Cat feces stink”. Very good, King. You can add that to your response list. Makes as much sense as “Giddyup”.

gordonbloyershow said:
Bush told NO lies about Iraq. If the liberal media and the socialist dems say something is a lie, we are supposed to accept it. LOL. They had their way before Fox News, talk radio and the internet. Now they don’t get to determine what a lie is and who the liars are. They also don’t get to be the speech police and decide what is racist, anti gay or what hate speech is. They still think they can and some republicans fall for this nonsense but we must get rid of the wimps. Stand up to facist biggoted liberals and shove it back down their throats.This year the world is changing.

Change is constant, you’re ego is getting in the way again.

The truth is, conservatives don’t want change, they want things to revert back to the way they were in the 50′s, but that will never happen…those times are gone. We attacked Iraq for the wrong reasons (faulty intelligence, a war of choice, some say to gain access to their natural resources) and politically we blew it.

There is no victory, only the hope for a better future in the Middle East.

But now that we’re done “saving the people of Iraq”…which is amazing considering the right’s hatred for Islam, who’s next? Are we going to liberate the Muslims of Iran?

How much money will we spend forcing Democracy down the throat of other countries?

Will the conservatives focus on helping our economy, getting jobs for Amercians? Or will they continue to spend our money forcing our ideologies on the Middle East?

bloyer, i don’t know what kool-aid you’re drinking, man. Iraq is completely founded on lies, and has never been anything but a colossal clusterf**k. To think otherwise is to admit you’re so high on ideology that you’ve lost the power of reason. A victory, someone said! Why is America in the shit condition it is in right now? Simple. ideological insanity on the Right, and the betrayal of ethical capitalism. And you’re answer? More of same – oh yes, and let’s kill some of the pseudo-enemies, the Liberals. Its always (categorically) the fault of all the outsiders. I call that pure cowardice

So, the Democrats had nothing to do with voting for the war resolution.

notsofast said:
Sorry libs, but America won in Iraq. I know that breaks your hearts!

No you are wrong liberals’ hearts are broken b/c of the men and women we lost for an unjust war. Our hearts are broken b/c there are mothers who will never see their son or daughter and in some cases both ever again. Our hearts are broken b/c there are young kids who never will see their father or mother. Our hearts our broken b/c we know this Christmas in many households there will be an empty seat for a fallen hero.

ImJustThatDamnGood says:
September 1, 2010 at 1:36 pm (Quote)
1 0

writer said:
“And the Dems didn’t check into any of this before voting for the war resolution?

Obama did as a consequence he voted no.”

Where did he vote? In his kitchen at a roundtable with his family? He was a state senator at the time, genius. He represented a far-left district. He VOICED his opposition to the war in front of his far-left district. It’s not like he was taking a courageous stand. It was about as courageous as voicing his support for welfare handouts. He wasn’t privy to any info that he could “check in to”.

Let’s count the evasions:
- the dems voted for it (dems may be pussies, but completely irrelevant to the issue of lies)
- “no new news here, we’ve been over all that”
- Bush isn’t there anymore, stop bashing him. it’s Obama’s war now, focus on the present
- the surge worked
etc

Sorry, none of these go to the root issue of horrible, destructive governance between 200 – 2008. Anyone have the stones to own up? didn’t think so

The Dems voting for the war is irrelevant.

lonestar77 said:
ImJustThatDamnGood says:
September 1, 2010 at 1:36 pm (Quote)
1 0

writer said:
“And the Dems didn’t check into any of this before voting for the war resolution?

Obama did as a consequence he voted no.”

Where did he vote? In his kitchen at a roundtable with his family? He was a state senator at the time, genius. He represented a far-left district. He VOICED his opposition to the war in front of his far-left district. It’s not like he was taking a courageous stand. It was about as courageous as voicing his support for welfare handouts. He wasn’t privy to any info that he could “check in to”.

You are right… correction we should have listen to Obama b/c he was opposed to the war. Maybe he listened to Scott Ritter.

MrAut, there was a congressional investigation that determined that Bush did not lie. You have no evidence that Bush lied about anything. YOU just want to believe it. You only have democrats saying that Bush lied. They said the same thing he did at the time.
Why don’t YOU prove that Bush knew there were NO WMD’s when he said it? I don’t care if one adviser said there were not any, there were more advisors that said there were. I know you are the ONE brilliant person that knew which of the advisors was right. Since Hussein had used them before and would not allow the inspectors prove that he didn’t seems like it is more likely he did have than he didn’t. Of course not to the brilliant people like YOU.
All of that is a strawman set up by the media since there were better reasons for invading Iraq. Hussein violated seventeen U.N. resolutions. I know that doesn’t matter to YOU. Hussein violated the cease-fire agreement by firing on U.S. amd British planes. I know that does not matter to YOU. This is the main reason for me. If we don’t enforce the cease-fire agreement why do we bother to sign them in the first place?

So I don’t really care what the left-wingers think about the war, nothing Hussein did was a reason to get rid of him. They seem to like all the killers that oppose this country.

ImJustThatDamnGood says:
“You are right… correction we should have listen to Obama b/c he was opposed to the war. Maybe he listened to Scott Ritter.”

Or, more likely, he was listening to his uber-left constituents and playing politics. The guy was a state senator, he prolly couldn’t have found Iraq on a map. Don’t pretend like he knew what everyone else didn’t. His constituent’s hated Bush, so he simply echoed their feelings.

It does go to show the power of the left-wing media. It’s not because people are dumb that they believe Obama “voted against” the war, it’s because the left-wing media has basically spread that lie.

Any of you red blooded Righties here able to distinguish between a smart war and a stupid war? what are the criteria? would going to war without adequate planning, knowledge or resources qualify? would going to war for personal rather than strategic reasons qualify? would leaving a country in shambles and thus more vulnerable to a neighbor like Iran qualify? would burning 20 or 30 times the original estimated budget factor in? mmm. would a war that left most americans totally confused about its objectives count?

just askin

lonestar77 said:
It does go to show the power of the left-wing media. It’s not because people are dumb that they believe Obama “voted against” the war, it’s because the left-wing media has basically spread that lie.

And conservatives attempts to justify an unjust war.

“Left wing media” – anyone here able to detach from their inane cliches for a little while? Far as I can the Right owns the media environment, and has for a while. what are we talking about, The NYTimes? Are we talking about anything that questions your orthodoxy?

All you big FOX fans out there need to write Murdoch and Alies and urge them to send another US $1 Million to the Republican Governors’ Assoication. Yesterday, judgment was rendered against the RGA for US $2 Million in favor of Chris Bell, a recent Democratic candidate for governor. Bob Berry, unrleated to Governor Toll Booth Perry, a homebuilder, close friend to Senator Hutchinson and chief funder of the Swift Boat Liars, donated US $500 K to the RGA, which was then covertly funded to Toll Booth. The judgment is for actual and punitive damages. Hayseed Barber and the RGA need money, R&R. Fast. Send it now.

BECKERHEAD’S GONE PREACHER, AND QUITE THE HERETIC,
O’HANNITY IS A SIMPLY A WORLD CLASS WHINER,
O’REILLY PRESENTS THAT WEIRD BODY LANGUAGE CHICK,
ADD O’VAN SUSTEREN: ASLEEP IN MY RECLINER!

let’s start with Mark Danner’s “The Secret Way To War” http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2005/jun/09/the-secret-way-to-war/

I mean if it isn’t too “liberal” for you ideologues

ImJustThatDamnGood says:
September 1, 2010 at 2:26 pm (Quote)
0 1

“And conservatives attempts to justify an unjust war.”

Huh?

MrAut says:
September 1, 2010 at 2:31 pm (Quote)
0 0

““Left wing media” – anyone here able to detach from their inane cliches for a little while? Far as I can the Right owns the media environment, and has for a while.”

Again, huh?

lonestar77 said:
Again, huh?

another confused conservative

We should have never invaded Iraq

Paul Begala is a discredited propagandist relegated to dying CNN.

Bloyer said, “All of that is a strawman set up by the media since there were better reasons for invading Iraq. Hussein violated seventeen U.N. resolutions. I know that doesn’t matter to YOU. Hussein violated the cease-fire agreement by firing on U.S. amd British planes. I know that does not matter to YOU. This is the main reason for me…”

Glad you leveled with me there. Stupidest reason I’ve heard yet, but you’re honest..

btw, WMD was a “strawman set up by the media?” I remember Bush hammering away at that mercilessly. What do you mean? you’ve really bought into the whole “media is the enemy” schtick, yes? I think it s more like “whatever or whoever exposes our dirty laundry is the enemy..”

Begala still says to this day that Bush stole the 2000 election.

Nuff said.

Regardless of why the US went to war, freeing the Iraqi people from the grip of Saddam Hussein makes it worthwhile to me. But no one (Bush or Obama) should be taking credit for anything unless the Iraqi’s are able to establish a stable democratic form of government. If that doesn’t happen, the war will be a failure.

Folks, I personally don’t care whether we’re talking about communism, socialism, hard Right conservatism, liberalism, Nazism, or any other “ism” – the problem is ISM. ISM means I can’t possibly agree with you and your ism, and worse that I choose to ignore or explain away unpleasant facts that contradict my ISM.

If you have rigid agenda, far less likely that you can hear or tolerate REALITY – which, sorry to say, is never just one way. On the other hand, we know where the religious adherence to ISM leads. To hell

As usual, Begala got his facts wrong.

as azarkhan points out iraq needs to establish a stable democratic government but wasn’t that the whole goal of the surge in the first place? and along with the sunni awakening weren’t we paying the sons of iraq, i think they were called, to fight against the insurgency? will we continue to pay them and when we stop will they continue fighting? nobody doubts getting rid of saddam was a bad thing but richard engal was saying last night on rachel maddow that even the people fighting against us are afraid of the influence iran will have once we leave. and what kind of life do iraqis have when so many are out of work and the have 1 or 2 hours at most of electricity a day? ari told savannah guthrie this morning he wanted obama to say that we had one but with all these questions what exactly did we win.

Here is candidate Obama on the surge, predicting that it would make matters worse and that he would actively oppose it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_igpyewuzQ

And now he wants to take credit for the success? What a laugh!

FearMonger said:
Begala still says to this day that Bush stole the 2000 election. Nuff said.

I agree. Everyone knows that W lost the popular vote, somewhat handily, and that the Supreme Court appointed him president. Stole the election? Geez!

BECKERHEAD’S GONE PREACHER, AND QUITE THE HERETIC,
O’HANNITY IS A SIMPLY A WORLD CLASS WHINER,
O’REILLY PRESENTS THAT WEIRD BODY LANGUAGE CHICK,
ADD O’VAN SUSTEREN: ASLEEP IN MY RECLINER!

Dave Richards said:
As usual, Begala got his facts wrong.

And, we have stockpiles of WMD’s to prove that very point, don’t we?

BECKERHEAD’S GONE PREACHER, AND QUITE THE HERETIC,
O’HANNITY IS A SIMPLY A WORLD CLASS WHINER,
O’REILLY PRESENTS THAT WEIRD BODY LANGUAGE CHICK,
ADD O’VAN SUSTEREN: ASLEEP IN MY RECLINER!

ImJustThatDamnGood said:
No you are wrong liberals’ hearts are broken b/c of the men and women we lost for an unjust war. Our hearts are broken b/c there are mothers who will never see their son or daughter and in some cases both ever again. Our hearts are broken b/c there are young kids who never will see their father or mother. Our hearts our broken b/c we know this Christmas in many households there will be an empty seat for a fallen hero.

Libs don’t have priority on that. I am a conservative with 2 sons in the military. Eldest deployed 3 times.

COULDN’T HAVE BEEN SAID BETTER PAUL. EXCELLENT

This is just one more reason why CNN has no viewers.

Cooper was horrible as the host of this show last night; I watched this live and must say…..Cooper is an idiot and Begalla is a jerk.

Typical lies, perpetuated by dem hacks and endorsed by CNN.

CNN is lost; a dying breed.

whether CNN is dying or not, Begala just had the balls to speak his mind, and he is largely right. Fleischer is a professional press secretary, that is, a person paid to spin the truth and prevent bad news from creating trouble. “Begala is washed up and a jerk” throwing “ad hominem” attacks at people doesn’t address the issue – it’s what you say when you’ve got nothing. The truth makes people squirm. and the truth is Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld will never be held to account for this debacle.

enjoy that Kool-Aid

Azarkhan said:
Regardless of why the US went to war, freeing the Iraqi people from the grip of Saddam Hussein makes it worthwhile to me. But no one (Bush or Obama) should be taking credit for anything unless the Iraqi’s are able to establish a stable democratic form of government. If that doesn’t happen, the war will be a failure.

You’re saying that REMOVING a dictator the US helped INSTALL is worth the lives of thousands of American military personal, tens of thousands wounded, over a million dead and wounded Iraqis and $3 Trillion Dollars after everything is accounted for…is “worthwhile to you?”

What war “Wouldn’t” be worthwhile using your logic?

felixw said:
Here is candidate Obama on the surge, predicting that it would make matters worse and that he would actively oppose it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_igpyewuzQ

And now he wants to take credit for the success? What a laugh!

The so-called “surge” was a failure. It didn’t achieve all of the stated goals…goals stated by the BUSH Administration. Don’t take my word for it:

From the American Conservative:

“Some of the political elements that the previous administration considered “key” to their “new approach” were these:

Is anyone going to argue seriously that there has been significant progress on any of these “key elements”? These are political elements of the plan that the administration itself emphasized as essential, and I don’t think anyone can say that the goals have been reached. There are other political elements listed on the “fact sheet” that are still neglected over three years later. If anyone wants to separate the security gains that have occurred in part because of the additional brigades present in Iraq during 2007-08 from all of the other stated goals of the plan, he is free to do so, but it is absurd to say that it is not credible to judge the success of the plan according to the standards set up by the administration that proposed it. “

http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2010/04/06/by-its-own-standards-the-surge-failed/

So what did we really accomplish in Iraq besides removing former CIA asset Saddam Hussein from power? We replaced a secular Muslim regime with a religious Shia Muslim regime, which is reverse of what the US did in Iraq in 1963.
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/51/217.html

–Cobra

Actually, I like your “washed up jerk”, it’s much better than my “jerk”. Thanks.

Begala was given the air time on CNN to spew his lies; AC just let him rant. It is what CNN is, a voice for the left and it is why it has lost credibility and viewers.

The Real Royal King said:
FearMonger said:
Begala still says to this day that Bush stole the 2000 election. Nuff said.
I agree. Everyone knows that W lost the popular vote, somewhat handily, and that the Supreme Court appointed him president. Stole the election? Geez!

Do you really wanna go there? So you think Gore won Florida?

You DO realize that we don’t elect POTUS by ‘popular vote’, right? If you wanna change that I would be A-OK with that. No more depending on census data to decide numbers of electoral votes.

If you go by popular vote then McCain’s defeat didn’t look quite so bad…..hmmm.

Big surprise that you and Begala are of the same mentality though. Anybody else wanna show your moonbat stripes?

This ‘controversy’ is almost as good as the ‘truther’ BS.

Memo to Buggala.
Bush don’t need your friggin’ “credit” you bleepin’ a-hole.

History and the Iraqis will do that just fine.
It will also show that when America was at a crossroads that Obama voted to cut and run as did all the Democrats.

NeoKong said:
Memo to Buggala.Bush don’t need your friggin’ “credit” you bleepin’ a-hole. History and the Iraqis will do that just fine.It will also show that when America was at a crossroads that Obama voted to cut and run as did all the Democrats.

Check your facts before you spout off.

Bush is the one who agreed on the initial timetable for the withdrawl of troops, under pressure from the Iraqi government. Obama was left holding the bag and implementing the final timetable.

..and btw, Buggala was offering credit to Bush…they were demanding that he give credit..big difference.

Which is probably why Obama doesn’t get much love and applause when he speaks to the troops.

Besides the fact that he doesn’t know the force (example: corpse man), he voted to DEFUND THEM when they were on the battlefield.

But hey, HE ended the war….what an ungracious man-child he is.

TfT said:
Which is probably why Obama doesn’t get much love and applause when he speaks to the troops.

Besides the fact that he doesn’t know the force (example: corpse man), he voted to DEFUND THEM when they were on the battlefield.

But hey, HE ended the war….what an ungracious man-child he is.

So $3 Trillion, thousands of dead American soldiers and millions of dead and wounded Iraqis isn’t quite enough for you? You want MORE of this? To what end?

–Cobra

TfT said:
Actually, I like your “washed up jerk”, it’s much better than my “jerk”. Thanks.

Begala was given the air time on CNN to spew his lies; AC just let him rant. It is what CNN is, a voice for the left and it is why it has lost credibility and viewers.

what lies was Begala spewing? I just listened again, trying to spot one of his lies, so help me out. On the other hand I though Ari clarified the whole story when he said, “The 9-11 commission said there were ties between Saddam and Al-Qaeda…they just weren’t operational…” Press sec bullshit in a nutshell

“…that Obama voted to cut and run as did all the Democrats..” Is the secret of the Right that they can’t utter a single sentence without a cliche? What do you propose, chief, that we fight on aimlessly for a thousand years just so no one could ever accuse us of “cutting and running”? These are the binds that stupid criminal wars get you into

Spine Crusher said:

Check your facts before you spout off.

Bush is the one who agreed on the initial timetable for the withdrawl of troops, under pressure from the Iraqi government. Obama was left holding the bag and implementing the final timetable.

..and btw, Buggala was offering credit to Bush…they were demanding that he give credit..big difference.

Like I said, Bush don’t need Buggala’s worthless credit and the only reason that Bush could negotiate a SOFA to leave Iraq on a time table was because of the success of the surge.
Democrats were content to let that place burn to the ground for political gain and history will show that.

P.S.
Maybe you should get your facts straight cowboy.
Iraqis don’t want US to leave.

BAGHDAD (AFP) – A majority of Iraqis believe it was the wrong time for a major withdrawal of US combat troops, a poll said on Tuesday, with more than half also warning that it would have negative consequences.

MichelleF said:
When the forhead speaks NO ONE listens!

A totally inane comment, and eighteen dopes give you a thumbs up. What a bunch of children.

the sad thing is bush, cheney, and rumsfeld are never going to be held accountable and that is because when the democrats took control of the house, they decided we were not going to look back and investigate the illegal actions done on the pretext of making us safer. i don’t really see the republicans and darrel issa using the same restraint. the do nothing repubs are doing everything they can to stop dems from doing any work at all now and when they take power the only work they will do is trying to stop the progress that has happened over the last two years.

Well, TVbytheNumbers has the ratings posted for the speech last night.

MichelleF has been proven right….when the forhead speaks NO ONE listens.

gordonbloyershow said:
Bush told NO lies about Iraq. If the liberal media and the socialist dems say something is a lie, we are supposed to accept it. LOL. They had their way before Fox News, talk radio and the internet. Now they don’t get to determine what a lie is and who the liars are. They also don’t get to be the speech police and decide what is racist, anti gay or what hate speech is. They still think they can and some republicans fall for this nonsense but we must get rid of the wimps. Stand up to facist biggoted liberals and shove it back down their throats.This year the world is changing.

Yep, another totally stupid comment by the Gord. “facist biggoted liberals,” huh? That sounds like a real brainy statement. Why are you so angry all the time? You really should see a psychiatrist.

Stephen Hogan said:
gordonbloyershow said:
facist liberals

Oxymoron, much?

Stephen, not hardly!

I was SO proud of Begala for telling the truth!! He was a star. FINALLY someone told the truth.

The other terrific person on TV these days is Harvard Professor Linda Bilmes, co-author of THE THREE TRILLION DOLLAR WAR book. She has a good article out here in San Francisco explaining why the COSTS keep going on and on and on — despite the so-called “end of combat” operations. READ:

http://articles.sfgate.com/2010-08-15/opinion/22220424_1_combat-troops-big-costs-disability-compensation

Here is Prof. Bilmes talking on Bloomberg TV”

http://www.clipsyndicate.com/video/play/1665985

Cobra said:
3 Trillion Dollars after everything is accounted for…

B.S_ barry said last night it did not cost more than $1 trillion over 7.5 years compared to Barry’s debt of $3 trillion in 18 months!

notsofast said:
B.S_ barry said last night it did not cost more than $1 trillion over 7.5 years compared to Barry’s debt of $3 trillion in 18 months!

You think the costs of the war STOPPED last night, notsofast?

You’re not THAT dim, are you?

“The cost of direct US military operations – not even including long-term costs such as taking care of wounded veterans – already exceeds the cost of the 12-year war in Vietnam and is more than double the cost of the Korean War.

And, even in the best case scenario, these costs are projected to be almost ten times the cost of the first Gulf War, almost a third more than the cost of the Vietnam War, and twice that of the First World War. The only war in our history which cost more was the Second World War, when 16.3 million U.S. troops fought in a campaign lasting four years, at a total cost (in 2007 dollars, after adjusting for inflation) of about $5 trillion (that’s $5 million million, or £2.5 million million). With virtually the entire armed forces committed to fighting the Germans and Japanese, the cost per troop (in today’s dollars) was less than $100,000 in 2007 dollars. By contrast, the Iraq war is costing upward of $400,000 per troop.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article3419840.ece

That’s why bogemin is correct with his link to Linda Blimes.

NeoKong said:
Spine Crusher said:

Like I said, Bush don’t need Buggala’s worthless credit and the only reason that Bush could negotiate a SOFA to leave Iraq on a time table was because of the success of the surge.
Democrats were content to let that place burn to the ground for political gain and history will show that.

P.S.
Maybe you should get your facts straight cowboy.
Iraqis don’t want US to leave.

Oh, and Iraqis were BEGGING us to invade their country resulting in over a MILLION dead and wounded and over FOUR MILLION displaced citizens?

Really?

You right wingers are hilarious.

–Cobra

Hey Cobra….
It seems you need to pull down your underpants to find your statistics.
A million dead Iraqis would mean that almost three thousand a day have died each and every day of the war.
That is ridiculous.
Please do not quote the Lancet report or Media Matters.
Your 3 trillion number is a joke too.
Also, more Iraqis died before Saddam was captured than after.
He was the one who killed a million Iraqis or maybe you think they were better off with him in power…?

NeoKong said:
Hey Cobra….
It seems you need to pull down your underpants to find your statistics.
A million dead Iraqis would mean that almost three thousand a day have died each and every day of the war.
That is ridiculous.
Please do not quote the Lancet report or Media Matters.
Your 3 trillion number is a joke too.
Also, more Iraqis died before Saddam was captured than after.
He was the one who killed a million Iraqis or maybe you think they were better off with him in power…?

That’s not the point invading a country b/c their leader is a bad man is B.S. also an unjust cause for war.

who cares!!! My boyfriend thinks the same with me. He- is a black man, lol. We met online at an interracial dating site_________ **** B l a c k W h i t e C u p i d (C o m) ***** ______—a nice and free place for singles- black & white, to interact with each other. Maybe you wanna check out or- tell your friends. ;) ;)

The “surge” accomplished nothing. Absolutely nothing. Except to establish a complete blackout wall on info by the WH & Pentagon. It came in the middle of an actual civil war. One day the media will escape its imposed muzzle about ALL that stuf. Wait’ll Murcuhns & the world see the photos of the luxurious & extravagant Green Zone. Where our “heroic warriors” dwell. Plush beyond words. Kuwait as well. Most people living there live better than they ever lived before. Even the dullest of you will see! Yup.

1st, I distrust most ‘ALL’ politicians because they think we can’t ‘Handle the Truth’ and this leads them to the
bed of conflictive collusion with people who indeed do lie and have a hidden agenda. Most of our politicians just do what others want; for whatever the reason….
2cd, I hate all of our war mongering; it is time to stop the killing and bring all of our soldiers home
3rd, Afghanistan is Viet Nam revisited with an opium twist vs grass
4th, Iraq was raped by S.H. & his sons for decades. The women were not allowed to go to school.
WMD? Well, what would you call hundreds of thousands of Iraqi people gassed and buried in mass graves?
But still do we have to ‘Police the World?’
5th, MEXICO is in dire shape due to our ‘LUV 4 DRUGS’ and it is more of a threat to ‘U.S.’ than any other
6th, Foreign Oil and Foreigners are destroying ‘U.S.’ right here at home, no need to go around the world.
7th, etc and so on….

C’mon. “Credit” ? They didn’t listen to the general(s) who told them how many troops it would take (didn’t they fire one ?) and years later, after a lot of chaos and carnage, they finally put more troops in like they were told in the first place (which combined with the Iraqis themselves finally getting fed up with the new “al Qaida in Iraq”)(and Patreus’s new approach) and now Ari wants “credit” for putting more troops in ?

Pretty much everyone admits what a disaster the first few years of the Iraq war was AND many argue that it still is today….

And people want to give credit to Bush for FINALLY, years later, GETTING ONE THING correct? Huh?

Is Bush standards so low that anything correct he does needs to be praised to heaven?