“Race-Bait du Jour”

Tommy got his headline in again…nothing behind it except some bad fiction…but that headlin sure stands out.

So Limbaugh is race-baiting because only blacks are taggers?

Outstanding, Mr. Christopher.

Now, get ready for the tears!

How is that race baiting?

So….only people of a certain skin tone tag walls, spray grafitti? Funny how people on the left assume that when this type of thing is mentioned it automatically means black people are involved.

I can assure you, people of every color and creed spray grafitti on anything and everything. Black people don’t have a corner on the tagging market and if anything, are probably a smaller part of that particular crowd. This is a typical knee-jerk treaction from the race-conscious, self righteous left.

Look, over there, graffitti. Must be black people involved.

Tell me, just who are the racists here?

lazzzlo said:
race-baiting because only blacks are taggers

It is a rather “Racist” view by Tommy isn’t it? Well, we are use to it….as they say…that is how the lefties roll!!!”

No race in there at all . …There are Mexican gangs , Muslim gangs , Albanian gangs , etc . He is right about Obama being a J.D. , of course . Be nice to have a grown up as President again one day , like G.W. Bush .

How about another interpretation?

Is it possible that he was making the comparison because of the flashy but fleeting nature of graffiti? That would be an interesting illiteration, wouldn’t it? Nah. Couldn’t be.

He referred to graffitti. He must have been talking about blacks. Apparently the left knows what kind of criminals they are. By the way, you’re falling back on Andrew Sullivan’s analysis of this? Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel for coherent thought.

Good LORD do you people ever think something like this through?

I vocally and proudly wished for Rush Limbaugh to die when he had heart troubles around XMas last year, because he is a malignant tumor to American political discourse. He thrives on stoking the fears of those who have suffered economic distress and are looking for someone to blame. Although I would prefer he wait til 2011, as then in the sweetest of ironies, the federal gov’t would be able to take half of his estate.

http://twitter.com/TommyXtopher/statuses/4667115193769984

@Ben_Howe I’m gonna wait until there are 200 comments just like yours before I swoop in and devastate them.

T.C.

Do you really want to climb on the Andrew Sullivan train? Seriously?
This is the guy you have quoted, as if what he has to say matters?
Andrew Sullivan needs to clean up his own house before he decides to point fingers at anybody else for cowardice…or disgusting behavior. Andrew Sullivan has a past. We don’t need to rehash it here….unless you choose to do so.
Perhaps you should wait for the next train..don’t waste your tokens.

i do believe rush is a race-baiter sometimes, but this is a stretch, dont cry wolf on this one

Tommy Christopher calling somebody ELSE a race-baiter. This day keeps getting funnier and funnier.

Tommy Christopher said:
http://twitter.com/TommyXtopher/statuses/4667115193769984

@Ben_Howe I’m gonna wait until there are 200 comments just like yours before I swoop in and devastate them.

Please, Tommy, don’t hurt ‘em!

Tommy Christopher said:
http://twitter.com/TommyXtopher/statuses/4667115193769984

@Ben_Howe I’m gonna wait until there are 200 comments just like yours before I swoop in and devastate them.

It isn’t worth your effort. These sad sacks are nothing but comment trolls.

Thanks for the article Tommy. I had no idea only minorities belonged to gangs and liked to spray graffiti. I really learned alot from you today!

Harry Flashman said:
How is that race baiting? So….only people of a certain skin tone tag walls, spray grafitti? Funny how people on the left assume that when this type of thing is mentioned it automatically means black people are involved. I can assure you, people of every color and creed spray grafitti on anything and everything. Black people don’t have a corner on the tagging market and if anything, are probably a smaller part of that particular crowd. This is a typical knee-jerk treaction from the race-conscious, self righteous left. Look, over there, graffitti. Must be black people involved. Tell me, just who are the racists here?

Are you fucking kidding me? This is Rush! The master of blowing the dog whistle to imply such things.

Is you head that far down deep in the sand that you don’t know EXACTLY what he was referring to? Or does his cum taste so good in your mouth that you can’t help yourself?

Which is it?

Tommy, I mostly agree with you on this one…I think we all know what Rush is getting at here, and that is the reaction that you had.

But what you’re not getting is that Rush will always walk that line fine enough so that you can never fully make your interpretation of what he means stick, now matter how accurate your interpretation might be.

and yes I believe he is that calculated.

Therefore you will never take Rush down from the spot he currently occupies, and he won’t go away unless its his own choosing.

Now if he strives for something else (i.e. an NFL ownership position) that’s when the knives comes out- but otherwise hes just on another level- it would be like mediate being able to take down Castro or something.

aint happening, in other words.

What the left is pathologically incapable of doing is what would actually hurt him: That is to ignore Rush.

After all, this is exactly what Rush wants from you- the more you react, the more relevant he remains

why give attention to the biggest attention seeker of all time, he’d say anything to gain attention, and when he’s refered to in the media he gloats about it, when the hell are you all going to get it? just igore him.

Tommy Christopher hates media-ite people!
He is a serial mislead-er!
Race bait and switch-er!

BOOOooooo

Harry Flashman said:
How about another interpretation? Is it possible that he was making the comparison because of the flashy but fleeting nature of graffiti? That would be an interesting illiteration, wouldn’t it? Nah. Couldn’t be. He referred to graffitti. He must have been talking about blacks. Apparently the left knows what kind of criminals they are. By the way, you’re falling back on Andrew Sullivan’s analysis of this? Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel for coherent thought. Good LORD do you people ever think something like this through?

flashing but fleeting? What are you 12? Graffiti has been around for a long, long time.

It’s amazing how you will conjure up any possible alternative to what the obvious is to protect your feeble ego. Rush is a race-baiter, he always has been and he always will be. That’s how he gets all you racists to listen to him.

Just sit back and enjoy!

- “Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?”

- “Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”

- “The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.”

- “They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?”

- [To an African American female caller]: “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.”

- ”I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They’re interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there’s a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn’t deserve.”

- “We need segregated buses… This is Obama’s America.”

- “Obama’s entire economic program is reparations.”

NOW who’s the racist!? ByyyyAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH Bitches!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqBz48BVMjA

Tommy going “tribal”… trying to rally the…. “enemy”…..with his lizard brain.

“…conflating the first black President…”
Obama is bi-racial. It really doesn’t matter but let’s set the record straight

Perhaps Rush is “a typical white person”

610 WIP host Angelo Cataldi asked Obama about his Tuesday morning speech on race at the National Constitution Center in which he referenced his own white grandmother and her prejudice. Obama told Cataldi that “The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity, but that she is a typical white person. If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know – there’s a reaction in her that’s been bred into our experiences that don’t go away and sometimes come out in the wrong way and that’s just the nature of race in our society. We have to break through it. What makes me optimistic is you see each generation feeling less like that. And that’s pretty powerful stuff”

I’m not a fan of Limbaugh’s, but at least he didn’t belong to a hateful, racist, anti-American church for 20 years. Oh, and he isn’t running for POTUS either. Why don’t you focus on the fuck-up in the white house rather than a media personality?

Let’s cut up the race card! It’s maxed out and doesn’t work anymore……….

Dsiscokid said:
Let’s cut up the race card! It’s maxed out and doesn’t work anymore……….

Work for what? Like discounts at a store or to avoid getting lynched by a crowd.

“Put me down! You’re all racists”

“oh no, he played the race card!..gotta put em down and let em go back to the field pickin cotton”

The reverse doesn’t stand true…that’s just a talking point. Don’t be a lemming kid.

Spine, you missed quite a few:

I think one man is just as good as another so long as he’s not a n*gger or a Chinaman. Uncle Will says that the Lord made a White man from dust, a n*gger from mud, then He threw up what was left and it came down a Chinaman. He does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race prejudice, I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, Yellow men in Asia and White men in Europe and America.”

-Harry Truman (1911) in a letter to his future wife Bess

“You cannot go to a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian Accent.” -Senator Joe Biden

Mahatma Gandhi “ran a gas station down in Saint Louis.”

-Senator Hillary Clinton

Some junior high n*gger kicked Steve’s ass while he was trying to help his brothers out; junior high or sophomore in high school. Whatever it was, Steve had the n*gger down. However it was, it was Steve’s fault. He had the n*gger down, he let him up. The n*gger blindsided him.”

– Roger Clinton, the President’s brother on audiotape

“You’d find these potentates from down in Africa, you know, rather than eating each other, they’d just come up and get a good square meal in Geneva.” — Fritz Hollings (D, S.C.)

“Is you their black-haired answer-mammy who be smart? Does they like how you shine their shoes, Condoleezza? Or the way you wash and park the whitey’s cars?”

– Left-wing radio host Neil Rogers

Blacks and Hispanics are “too busy eating watermelons and tacos” to learn how to read and write.” — Mike Wallace, CBS News. Source: Newsmax

SpineCrusher said:
flashing but fleeting? What are you 12? Graffiti has been around for a long, long time. It’s amazing how you will conjure up any possible alternative to what the obvious is to protect your feeble ego. Rush is a race-baiter, he always has been and he always will be. That’s how he gets all you racists to listen to him. Just sit back and enjoy! – “Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?” – “Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.” – “The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.” – “They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?” – [To an African American female caller]: “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.” – ”I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They’re interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there’s a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn’t deserve.” – “We need segregated buses… This is Obama’s America.” – “Obama’s entire economic program is reparations.” NOW who’s the racist!? ByyyyAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH Bitches!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqBz48BVMjA

Yeah, his supports really hate it when you pull out the quotes….HAHAHA!!

One of the best, here Spine:

“I’ll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.”

– Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One according Ronald Kessler’s Book, “Inside The White House”

“Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.”

– Former Klansman and current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the “conscience of the Senate”, in a letter written in 1944, after he quit the KKK.

“I am a former kleagle of the Ku Klux Klan in Raleigh County and the adjoining counties of the state …. The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia …. It is necessary that the order be promoted immediately and in every state of the Union. Will you please inform me as to the possibilities of rebuilding the Klan in the Realm of W. Va …. I hope that you will find it convenient to answer my letter in regards to future possibilities.”

– Former Klansman and current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the “conscience of the Senate”, in a letter written in 1946, after he quit the KKK.

“These laws [segregation] are still constitutional and I promise you that until they are removed from the ordinance books of Birmingham and the statute books of Alabama, they will be enforced in Birmingham to the utmost of my ability and by all lawful means.”

– Democrat Bull Connor (1957), Commissioner of Public Safety for Birmingham, Alabama

Few more for you, Spine:

“You f*cking Jew b@stard.” — Hillary Clinton to political operative Paul Fray. This was revealed in “State of a Union: Inside the Complex Marriage of Bill and Hillary Clinton” and has been verified by Paul Fray and three witnesses.

“The Jews don’t like Farrakhan, so they call me Hitler. Well, that’s a good name. Hitler was a very great man. He rose Germany up from the ashes.” — Louis Farrakhan (1984) who campaigned for congresswoman Cynthia McKinney in 2002

“Now that nation called Israel, never has had any peace in forty years and she will never have any peace because there can never be any peace structured on injustice, thievery, lying and deceit and using the name of God to shield your dirty religion under his holy and righteous name.” — Louis Farrakhan who campaigned for congresswoman Cynthia McKinney in 2002, 1984

‘Hymies.’ ‘Hymietown.’ — Jesse Jackson’s description of New York City while on the 1984 presidential campaign trail.

“Jews — that’s J-E-W-S.” — Democratic state representative Bill McKinney on why his daughter Cynthia lost in 2002

On Whites

“I want to go up to the closest white person and say: ‘You can’t understand this, it’s a black thing’ and then slap him, just for my mental health.”

– Charles Barron, a New York city councilman at a reparations rally, 2002

“Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them.” — Mary Frances Berry, Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights

(I) “will not let the white boys win in this election.” — Donna Brazile, Al Gore’s Campaign Manager on the 2000 election

“The old white boys got taken fair and square.” — San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown after winning an election

“There are white n*ggers. I’ve seen a lot of white n*ggers in my time.” — Former Klansman and Current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the “conscience of the Senate” in March of 2001

“The Medicaid system must have been developed by a white male slave owner. It pays for you to be pregnant and have a baby, but it won’t pay for much family planning.” — Jocelyn Elders

The white man is our mortal enemy, and we cannot accept him. I will fight to see that vicious beast go down into the lake of fire prepared for him from the beginning, that he never rise again to give any innocent black man, woman or child the hell that he has delighted in pouring on us for 400 years.” — Louis Farrakhan who campaigned for congresswoman Cynthia McKinney in 2002, City College audience in New York

“There’s no great, white bigot; there’s just about 200 million little white bigots out there.” — USA Today columnist Julienne Malveaux

“We have lost to the white racist press and to the racist reactionary Jewish misleaders.” — Former Rep. Gus Savage (D-Illinois) after his defeat 1992

“White folks was in caves while we was building empires… We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it.” — Rev. Al Sharpton in a 1994 speech at Kean College, NJ, cited in “Democrats Do the Dumbest Things

“The white race is the cancer of human history.” — Susan Sontag

“Reparations are a really good way for white people to admit they’re wrong.” — Zack Webb, University Of Kentucky NAACP

“Spine Crusher” said:

“Is you head that far down deep in the sand that you don’t know EXACTLY what he was referring to? Or does his cum taste so good in your mouth that you can’t help yourself?”

Hoo boy, he got me there.

How can I possibly stand in the face of such dazzling leftist logic, such razor wit?

Ya got me, “Spine Crusher”. I surrender. Happy? Good. Now, you can go back to your tire swing and play with something shiny.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Few more for you, Spine: “You f*cking Jew b@stard.” — Hillary Clinton to political operative Paul Fray. This was revealed in “State of a Union: Inside the Complex Marriage of Bill and Hillary Clinton” and has been verified by Paul Fray and three witnesses. “The Jews don’t like Farrakhan, so they call me Hitler. Well, that’s a good name. Hitler was a very great man. He rose Germany up from the ashes.” — Louis Farrakhan (1984) who campaigned for congresswoman Cynthia McKinney in 2002 “Now that nation called Israel, never has had any peace in forty years and she will never have any peace because there can never be any peace structured on injustice, thievery, lying and deceit and using the name of God to shield your dirty religion under his holy and righteous name.” — Louis Farrakhan who campaigned for congresswoman Cynthia McKinney in 2002, 1984 ‘Hymies.’ ‘Hymietown.’ — Jesse Jackson’s description of New York City while on the 1984 presidential campaign trail. “Jews — that’s J-E-W-S.” — Democratic state representative Bill McKinney on why his daughter Cynthia lost in 2002 On Whites “I want to go up to the closest white person and say: ‘You can’t understand this, it’s a black thing’ and then slap him, just for my mental health.” – Charles Barron, a New York city councilman at a reparations rally, 2002 “Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them.” — Mary Frances Berry, Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights (I) “will not let the white boys win in this election.” — Donna Brazile, Al Gore’s Campaign Manager on the 2000 election “The old white boys got taken fair and square.” — San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown after winning an election “There are white n*ggers. I’ve seen a lot of white n*ggers in my time.” — Former Klansman and Current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the “conscience of the Senate” in March of 2001 “The Medicaid system must have been developed by a white male slave owner. It pays for you to be pregnant and have a baby, but it won’t pay for much family planning.” — Jocelyn Elders The white man is our mortal enemy, and we cannot accept him. I will fight to see that vicious beast go down into the lake of fire prepared for him from the beginning, that he never rise again to give any innocent black man, woman or child the hell that he has delighted in pouring on us for 400 years.” — Louis Farrakhan who campaigned for congresswoman Cynthia McKinney in 2002, City College audience in New York “There’s no great, white bigot; there’s just about 200 million little white bigots out there.” — USA Today columnist Julienne Malveaux “We have lost to the white racist press and to the racist reactionary Jewish misleaders.” — Former Rep. Gus Savage (D-Illinois) after his defeat 1992 “White folks was in caves while we was building empires… We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it.” — Rev. Al Sharpton in a 1994 speech at Kean College, NJ, cited in “Democrats Do the Dumbest Things “The white race is the cancer of human history.” — Susan Sontag “Reparations are a really good way for white people to admit they’re wrong.” — Zack Webb, University Of Kentucky NAACP

That’s good stuff. You pull this out of your KKK manual or what?

The article is about Rush, not about your tireless efforts to push rascism as medicine for ignorant white people.

Harry Flashman said:
“Spine Crusher” said: “Is you head that far down deep in the sand that you don’t know EXACTLY what he was referring to? Or does his cum taste so good in your mouth that you can’t help yourself?” Hoo boy, he got me there. How can I possibly stand in the face of such dazzling leftist logic, such razor wit? Ya got me, “Spine Crusher”. I surrender. Happy? Good. Now, you can go back to your tire swing and play with something shiny.

tire swing? How freaking O-L-D are you?

No Spine, I think it’s about who the real raicsts are. And the fact is, the home of racism is the Dem party.

SpineCrusher said:
tire swing? How freaking O-L-D are you?

I hope your new found glorious Teabagger reps destroy Social Security and Medicare for you!

How you like them apples?

Easy solution if you hate Rush, turn the fuckin channel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
No Spine, I think it’s about who the real raicsts are. And the fact is, the home of racism is the Dem party.

Only until the Dixiecrats were destroyed…you ladies sure are showing your age today.

So did you vote for Strom Thurmond too?

Of course Spine, we can’t forget about the ultimate racist, Obama’s presonal mentor:

Jeremiah Wright – God Damn America – Obama’s Spiritual Mentor / Pastor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH5ixmT83JE

dummy123 said:
Tommy going “tribal”… trying to rally the…. “enemy”…..with his lizard brain.

It’s clearly no accident that your user name is dummy. It fits perfectly.

I enjoy this one from Obama’s mentor too, Spine:

The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color. The government lied.

Jeremiah Wright

SpineCrusher, would you consider this a hate crime or “poor minorities exploited by oppressive, privledged whites”?

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/apr/09/jury-selection-continues-in-carjacking-case/

This case is over, but I encourage you to do some research and save the fake rage, kid…….

SpineCrusher – I hope your new found glorious Teabagger reps destroy Social Security and Medicare for you!

How you like them apples?

Actually I’m trying to provide for my own retirement without depending on the Gov’t Ponzi scheme(s)

Proverbs 6:6-8-
Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise:
Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler,
Provideth her meat in the summer, and gathereth her food in the harvest.

Tommy Christopher is calling someone else a “serial race baiter”? Bahahahahaah. Bahahhahahah. Dude, pot, kettle. Outside of maybe Jackson or Sharpton, there is no bigger race baiter than Mediaite’s own, Tommy “serial baiter” Christopher.

Just one of the many problems getting worse in America, the watering down of the term racism. The far left now believes everyone who opposes Obama does so because of some concious or subconcious racism. The far right now believes that because we elected a black President that racism is dead. The truth, as always, lies in the middle.

Political correctness annoys most, and has maybe gone a little too far in the past 5-10 years, but that doesn’t mean that any empathy/sensitivity shown to minorities should be dismissed as just being PC. Similarly, calling bigoted statements bigoted is not political correctness, it’s reality. Insert Jewish lexicon and stereotypes in Limbaugh’s analogy and it is Anti-semitism.

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Jim Treacher said:
Tommy Christopher calling somebody ELSE a race-baiter. This day keeps getting funnier and funnier.

Please, Tommy, don’t hurt ‘em!

I guess your brain also has a 140-character limit. Well-argued, sir.

Nothing I read in the Mediaite comments ever really shocks me. While the majority of Mediaite-ers are normal Americans whatever their political affiliation, there are still a goodly number who are either out and out racists or are too ignorant to recognize that they are racist. Rush Limbaugh is a certified racist. He’s been that way for years, it’s a big part of his schtick. He appeals to the segment of the population who are either racist or latent racists or who are just plain all out nasty people. Some of these people are on the left side but 90% are rightwingers. It’s a joke to call a ‘bleeding heart’ liberal a racist. Most liberals at least understand the history and legacy of slavery and many rightwingers like Rand Paul sound like they would have fought against the abolition of slavery, because of their all out support for property rights! As for the constant comment that we are always pulling the race card, well there’s a bit of truth to that. We’re just calling it as we see it. Many of you have a deep seated prejudice towards blacks as well as a less emotional but equally stupid prejudice against other minorities. Your dislike of politically progressive people is also another irrational component of your world outlook. Robert Byrd was an active KKK member as a young man, but whether you want to acknowledge it or not, he travelled 360 degrees and became an outstanding liberal and ardent defender of the Constitution. There’s always hope , I say.

Tommy Christopher said:
I guess your brain also has a 140-character limit. Well-argued, sir.

Okay, do hurt ‘em. I leave the decision in your hands.

ganymede said:
Nothing I read in the Mediaite comments ever really shocks me. While the majority of Mediaite-ers are normal Americans whatever their political affiliation, there are still a goodly number who are either out and out racists or are too ignorant to recognize that they are racist. Rush Limbaugh is a certified racist. He’s been that way for years, it’s a big part of his schtick. He appeals to the segment of the population who are either racist or latent racists or who are just plain all out nasty people. Some of these people are on the left side but 90% are rightwingers. It’s a joke to call a ‘bleeding heart’ liberal a racist. Most liberals at least understand the history and legacy of slavery and many rightwingers like Rand Paul sound like they would have fought against the abolition of slavery, because of their all out support for property rights! As for the constant comment that we are always pulling the race card, well there’s a bit of truth to that. We’re just calling it as we see it. Many of you have a deep seated prejudice towards blacks as well as a less emotional but equally stupid prejudice against other minorities. Your dislike of politically progressive people is also another irrational component of your world outlook. Robert Byrd was an active KKK member as a young man, but whether you want to acknowledge it or not, he travelled 360 degrees and became an outstanding liberal and ardent defender of the Constitution. There’s always hope , I say.

You’re a racist because I say so. Speaking of, why are you such a racist? Were you raised that way? Yep, throwing around the race card is easy.

Either you’re calling Senator Byrd a racist or you failed geometry. I’m guessing you failed geometry.

Tommy Christopher said:
I guess your brain also has a 140-character limit. Well-argued, sir.

Lizard brain !

dummy123 said:
Lizard brain !

Now, now. Just you wait, Tommy’s going to expound on his compelling theory that graffiti artists are limited to one race or another.

I don’t listen to Rush.
But I always seek FULL context after the “media matters” hit-squad posts select colorful Limbaugh snippets!
99 percent of the time the shock and awe from these Limbaugh snippets is always sarcasm or a direct swipe at what a lefty was quoted saying.
I haven’t researched this one yet…..DWTS is coming on…I must go now.
But I am sure this is much to do about nothing.

Hey Tommy, Ben_Howe was absolutely right. And I think this piece, like most of your reporting, rhymes with Sphinx.

Jim Treacher said:
Now, now. Just you wait, Tommy’s going to expound on his compelling theory that graffiti artists are limited to one race or another.

Yeah know on Krazy Keith’s show tonight Bill Maher was going ghetto jive when talking about Obama as he always does.
Bill Maher is obviously a race baiter hater too !!!
Tommy get right on that please…..

Actually Limbaugh got it wrong. They dont even belong being on the mountain. Barack and Group are the portapottys and outhouses on the field below.

Big Eddie said:
No race in there at all . …There are Mexican gangs , Muslim gangs , Albanian gangs , etc . He is right about Obama being a J.D. , of course . Be nice to have a grown up as President again one day , like G.W. Bush .

From starting two illegals war for no reason, to plagerizing other people’s work and passing it off as your own in your book. very grown up! the right is nothing but hot air hypocrites!

That’s right, folks: George Bush “plagerized” his recollections of his own conversations.

Jim Treacher said:
That’s right, folks: George Bush “plagerized” his recollections of his own conversations.

Kum ba yah! Jim treacher, Keith Olbermann, and I agree on something!

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/keith-olbermann-reveals-countdown-killed-bush-plagiarism-segment-but-who-ran-with-it/

I told you, I need 200 dittoheads to show up here before I devastate their comments. I don’t want to do it piecemeal, let them behold en masse, then go forth into the world and repent.

Plus, black people do graffiti and nobody else does graffiti and also racism.

Jim Treacher said:
Plus, black people do graffiti and nobody else does graffiti and also racism.

I’m saving my super-secret weapon for the 200th dittohead, but in the meantime, please do point out the quote in my article that suggests anything remotely like this.

Tommy Christopher said:
I’m saving my super-secret weapon for the 200th dittohead, but in the meantime, please do point out the quote in my article that suggests anything remotely like this.

You forgot your own headline already?

Jim Treacher said:
You forgot your own headline already?

Please explain. How does my headline=what you say I said?

I heard Bill Maher make yet another real-black-equals-criminal (i.e. “gangsta”) joke on Keith Olbermann’s show tonight. Why is okay for Maher to do it?

Tommy Christopher said:
Please explain. How does my headline=what you say I said?

Oh, it doesn’t, Tommy. There’s some other reason it’s racist to mention graffiti, undoubtedly. Can’t wait for you to unleash that “super-secret weapon”!

You couldn’t get 200 comments with your drivel if you signed on as one of the 8 or 9 different lib aliases i’m sure you have to pump up your numbers.

dummy123 said:
I don’t listen to Rush.But I always seek FULL context after the “media matters” hit-squad posts select colorful Limbaugh snippets!99 percent of the time the shock and awe from these Limbaugh snippets is always sarcasm or a direct swipe at what a lefty was quoted saying.I haven’t researched this one yet…..DWTS is coming on…I must go now.But I am sure this is much to do about nothing.

I wonder if manning the Limbaugh desk at mediamatters is a sought after or dreaded position. Where does one go up the ladder from there? NY Times editorial page or gopher for David Brock’s boyfriend?

your headline was

“Rush Limbaugh Race-Bait du Jour: Obama And ‘Gang’ Are ‘Graffiti’ On Walls Of American History”

to those of us whose first language is English, that seems to mean that Rush was race-baiting when he talked about Obama as graffiti.

as publius pointed out, above, the new definition of “racism” is “any point of disagreement with President Obama’s person, policies, or politics.”

as for looking to Andrew Sullivan for guidance, that’s rich. the guy who has been obsessed with Sarah Palin’s vagina for the last 3 years is going to tell us who’s disgusting? yeah right.

michiganruth said:
the guy who has been obsessed with Sarah Palin’s vagina for the last 3 years is going to tell us who’s disgusting? yeah right.

Hey, leave Rich Lowry out of this!

Tommy Christopher said:
I told you, I need 200 dittoheads to show up here before I devastate their comments. I don’t want to do it piecemeal, let them behold en masse, then go forth into the world and repent.

I like this tactic, especially if you get paid by the click.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
No Spine, I think it’s about who the real raicsts are. And the fact is, the home of racism is the Dem party.

How many minority Republicans are there in Congress again? Oh yeah.

Tommy Christopher said:
I’m saving my super-secret weapon for the 200th dittohead, but in the meantime, please do point out the quote in my article that suggests anything remotely like this.

I just love the fact that we can call them dittoheads and it’s not a disrespectful term, their leader even calls them that. Forget Beck, Limbaugh is the modern day Lonsesome Roads.

This is way overblown. Rush was just alluding to Rehab’s use of the same attack on George W. Bush (a white person) and republicans. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtqjEMrEntc

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
How many minority Republicans are there in Congress again? Oh yeah.

Thank you for condemning the racists who didn’t vote for non-white Republican candidates.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
How many minority Republicans are there in Congress again? Oh yeah.

at least 2 more than there were November 1.

PSThornberry said:
This is way overblown.

Of course it is; its mediaite’s job to hype up partisan rhetoric.

PSThornberry said:
Rush was just alluding to Rehab’s use of the same attack on George W. Bush (a white person) and republicans.

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

ganymede said:
Nothing I read in the Mediaite comments ever really shocks me.

You have a lot of nerve just showing up here. What happened with the election? You said the republicans would take over nothing. You sure know what you are talking about. LOL

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
How many minority Republicans are there in Congress again? Oh yeah.

picked up a few…..they are beginning to catch on to the democrat lie.

The problem with libs like Tommy, they don’t live in the real world. They don’t understand anything but left-wing propaganda.
They need a translator to understand Rush.
His whole show is about making fun at the way libs report the news and the way they think. Don’t agree with them and you are a racist homophobe bigot. You can not tell the truth about a liberal, black person or democrat. That is extreme or absurd. LOL

hey rush, you might be a racist, but tommy christopher is trying to take your title

Why do you even read this shit Tommy? I hope you wear your waders when you do, ’cause it’s piled high and deep…

gordonbloyershow said:
The problem with libs like Tommy, they don’t live in the real world. They don’t understand anything but left-wing propaganda.
They need a translator to understand Rush.
His whole show is about making fun at the way libs report the news and the way they think. Don’t agree with them and you are a racist homophobe bigot. You can not tell the truth about a liberal, black person or democrat. That is extreme or absurd. LOL

Again i am not a Rush listener, but I always go and listen to the full context of the media matters character assassin clips.
Now I can usually figure out the sarcasm or swipe Limbaugh was taking at the Demo-crooks depending on the big story of the day.

Carla Reilly Bond said:
Why do you even read this shit Tommy? I hope you wear your waders when you do, ’cause it’s piled high and deep…

Tommy looks like a grumpy munchkin.
He needs a new avatar.
Might i suggest a bowler hat and a monocle.

“conflating the first black President with an urban gang tagger”…nice white, race mongering, Progressive insult of every black person by attributing the “tagger” pejorative exclusively to blacks WHILE exploiting the “first black president” card. Do white, race mongering, Progressives automatically attribute every nefarious act to black people? And, should Mediaite go bowling with Matthews? http://tinyurl.com/yloqual …white, race mongering Progressives do have the ability to forget about “black” people “for an hour”

Twitter.com/PoliticalPAW

Hummmmmm,,, Limbaugh seems to be pushing Tommy Christopher’s buttons.

Tommy’s super secret weapon is a power nap…

So libs don’t do race-baiting by talking about white-privilege, celebrating African History Month, Hispanic History Month, and referring to the founding fathers ad dead old white guys?

Rush Limbaugh isn’t race-baiting, there are plenty of white hoodlums that do vandalize walls with their “art.”

http://politicallyincorrectlibertarian.wordpress.com

PoliticalPAW said:
Progressive insult of every black person by attributing the “tagger” pejorative exclusively to blacks

Again, where in this article does it say that? Quote, please.

That there are white graffiti artists is not a defence. Plenty of white people like watermelon. Watermelon jokes about a black person are still racist. You people make the term meaningless in your defence of very thinly (if at all) veiled racism.

I hope everyone can agree that this picture (http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/5/56/KFCRiot1.jpg) is an example of racism. Why? Is it because its suggesting that black people get angry when KFC is closed? Oh but whites like fried chicken too. Im white and I get angry when KFC is closed. Show me how that picture is racist and Rush’s dog whistles arent.

Racism is not about objective truth, its about how this group of people is perceived. The caricatures that racists have of black people include tagging and urban crime. It doesnt even matter if its true, it doesnt even matter if its negative (whats so bad about eating watermelons and liking fried chicken?). Appealing to those caricatures in coded language is racist.

Tommy siding with the Trig truther? Lefty sides with lefty….no surprises there.

ok tommy , how was rush race-baiting in the article? if not why the headline

“Conservative radio host and serial race-baiter Rush Limbaugh has done it again.”

Trimonthly, its too bad that you’re too dense to see Rush m=is making fun of the real race baiters. The Democrat party.

Limbaugh said it himself: “it doesn’t take much to irritate the left.”

Way to prove Rush right, Tommy. You respond to one critical comment by saying: “Again, where in this article does it say that? Quote, please.”

Well … right back at ya: Where in Limbaugh’s comments does he mention anything about race? Is your premise that only black kids belong to gangs … tag buildings with spraypaint … are juvenile delinquents?

Quote, please.

Tommy Christopher said:
I told you, I need 200 dittoheads to show up here before I devastate their comments. I don’t want to do it piecemeal, let them behold en masse, then go forth into the world and repent.

Can you explain to us why you think only black people are in gangs and tag?

Understate wrote:

“Racism is not about objective truth, its about how this group of people is perceived. The caricatures that racists have of black people include tagging and urban crime. It doesnt even matter if its true, it doesnt even matter if its negative (whats so bad about eating watermelons and liking fried chicken?). Appealing to those caricatures in coded language is racist.”

Ah, I get it — you possess the psychic ability to peer deep into Limbaugh’s mind and determine that any reference to graffiti or juvenile delinquents or gangs is really “coded language” for a racist slam. Got it.

Obviously, the spirit of McCarthy is alive and well. Wow, look at that forest — I’ll bet you can see a racist behind every tree!

Upon Further Review said:
Limbaugh said it himself: “it doesn’t take much to irritate the left.”

Way to prove Rush right, Tommy. You respond to one critical comment by saying: “Again, where in this article does it say that? Quote, please.”

Well … right back at ya: Where in Limbaugh’s comments does he mention anything about race? Is your premise that only black kids belong to gangs … tag buildings with spraypaint … are juvenile delinquents?

Quote, please.

Like mostly liberals, Timmothy is very full of himself and is INCAPABLE of introspection. The guy sees racists everywhere, because hes projecting his own beliefs on to others. He didn’t even listen to what Rush said, he just heard a few buzz words and filled in the rest with his own racist beliefs. Look how convinced he is that hes going to destroy us “ditto heads”. The man is a paragon of self delusion. Hes perfect for the DNC.

Tommy Christopher said:
Again, where in this article does it say that? Quote, please.

If it doesn’t then what in the hell is your point in this article?

tgk said:
If it doesn’t then what in the hell is your point in this article?

Shhhhh! Hes in the process of deluding himself. Its what they do.

Yep, Tommy’s article plays out like a word-association test that Limbaugh was administering.

I can well imagine Rush saying, “OK, Tommy, just tell me the first word or words that come to mind when I say something. Ready? Let’s begin.”

Limbaugh: “Juvenile delinquent.”
Tommy: “Black person.”

Limbaugh: “Gang.”
Tommy: “Black people.”

Limbaugh: “Graffiti.”
Tommy: “Black mischief.”

And so it goes …

Okay, we’re still a few shy of 200, but I’m feeling charitable. I will explain on one condition: you dittoheads have to promise to go explain it reeeeal sloooow to all of your dittohead friends. One of our (non-dittohead) commenters touched on it earlier, but allow me to elaborate.

Racial stereotypes are oversimplified beliefs about a group of people, based on a set of assumptions. They are used, mainly by an oppressor class, in an attempt to dehumanize, demonize, or diminish the group that they wish to oppress, to limit their opportunities, to justify shoddy treatment, or simply to excuse themselves from caring.

One such stereotype is the black criminal, reinforced over generations by depictions in popular culture and the institutional racism in our criminal justice system.

It is this stereotype that Limbaugh evoked with the tandem of his remarks and the image of Mt. Rushmore. His purpose? To demean the President, and to lay a trap for anyone who called him out on it. Unfortunately, it’s a trap that only ensnares the weak-minded, the kind of person who makes the logical leap that the person who objects to racial stereotypes is actually the racist, rather than the person employing them, the kind of person who never bothers to challenge what’s being fed into his earhole by Limbaugh, because that might require a modicum of effort.

So, no, calling Rush out for depicting the President as a stereotypical black street thug does not mean that I think all street thugs are black, or that all black people are street thugs. It means that Limbaugh’s 3rd grade sophistry doesn’t work on me, I’m not going to sit by and say, “Well, he did cover himself, didn’t he?”

No, he didn’t, not with normal people. Rush’s MO is basically, “Hey, I’m not slapping you in the face, I’m satirizing the sensitivity of your face by striking it with my hand!” Normal people see the obvious flaw in that logic. Now, hopefully, so will you dittoheads. Go and sin no more.

Great analysis, TC.

Fans of the EIB (egocentric impotent blimp) will NEVER comprehend it.

“One such stereotype is the black criminal, reinforced over generations by depictions in popular culture and the institutional racism in our criminal justice system.”

You mean a stereotype that is largely created by black rappers?

It is this stereotype that Limbaugh evoked with the tandem of his remarks and the image of Mt. Rushmore. His purpose? To demean the President, and to lay a trap for anyone who called him out on it. ”

You do realize he did this because some on the left have suggested Obama be put on Mount Rushmore, right?

“the kind of person who never bothers to challenge what’s being fed into his earhole by Limbaugh, because that might require a modicum of effort.”

This from a guy who clearly didn’t listen tot he whole segment and instead emotionally reacted to what other people told him Rush said. This from a guy who regurgitates left wing, Democrat party talking points as facts on a regular basis. You’re such a raving hypocrite and what most disturbing is you utter inability to see it.

“So, no, calling Rush out for depicting the President as a stereotypical black street thug does not mean that I think all street thugs are black”

Rush didn’t do that, you did.

“Now, hopefully, so will you dittoheads.”

Case in point. You’re one projecting mother fucker.

Timmothy:

Was it racist when the left in the media and on the internet regularly called Bush a thug and part of a gang? How about when Chris Matthews referred to the Bush admin as a “regime”? Why is it only racist when you wacky left wing nut jobs declare it so? Why is it when you read the words “graffiti” and “gang”, you think “racist”? Whats wrong in that small, confused brain of yours that when a white person criticizes a black man, you instantly assume the white person is racist? Could it be that you’re stereotyping white people?

Apparently Tommy, you are going to see this how ever YOU want to see it.

Conservative says something, liberals decide it’s racist and inject ill intent

Liberal says something equal in value, Liberals say, but we know what they REALLY meant and what’s in their heart. They just chose poor wording to project it.

The two sides will never agree on this, just perpetuate it.

I will explain on one condition: you dittoheads have to promise to go explain it reeeeal sloooow to all of your dittohead friends.

Nice Tommy. If you want people to take you seriously, you may want to avoid the Maher tactic of calling those who disagree with you stupid. Just a suggestion.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Nice Tommy. If you want people to take you seriously, you may want to avoid the Maher tactic of calling those who disagree with you stupid. Just a suggestion.

I’m not calling people who disagree with me stupid, not even the dittoheads. Even smart people can succumb to conditioning, and surrender their ability to think for themselves. Explaining slowly and patiently is a means to break that conditioning.

“He’s a racist because I say he is.” Take that, dittoheads!

Tommy Christopher said:
One such stereotype is the black criminal, reinforced over generations by depictions in popular culture and the institutional racism in our criminal justice system.

So, no, calling Rush out for depicting the President as a stereotypical black street thug does not mean that I think all street thugs are black, or that all black people are street thugs. It means that Limbaugh’s 3rd grade sophistry doesn’t work on me, I’m not going to sit by and say, “Well, he did cover himself, didn’t he?”

No, he didn’t, not with normal people. Rush’s MO is basically, “Hey, I’m not slapping you in the face, I’m satirizing the sensitivity of your face by striking it with my hand!” Normal people see the obvious flaw in that logic. Now, hopefully, so will you dittoheads. Go and sin no more.

Keep digging, Tommy. Here’s why your last post was an airball:

1. You have no credentials to be the arbiter of what “normal people” see or don’t see. You can only speak for yourself, and what proof is there, other than your say-so, that your perspective is more “normal” than ours?

2. You have no credentials to speak with any authority on what was really in Rush’s mind. You want to claim that he was subtlety trying to make a racist comment? Fine — all you have to do is demonstrate, with more than your own empty declarations, that you’re qualified to judge what Rush really meant. Good luck with that one.

3. So what if “black criminal” is a stereotype? What you still haven’t proved is that EVERY reference to a “juvenile delinquent,” “graffiti” and “gang” inextricably points to that stereotype.

What’s deliciously amusing right now is that a great many of us saw nothing racial in any of those three words/phrases, yet YOU somehow did.

So the joke’s on you, Tommy. You hear “juvenile delinquent” and think “black person.” You hear “graffiti” and think “black person.” You hear “gang” and think “black person.”

Free your mind, Tommy … free your mind.

Good Job Tommy Christopher.

thats right tommy , racist, but at least he not inciting violence like msnbc

How can anyone claim that Rush is racist? When he sex-tourists in the Dominican Republic, what race do you think the 12-year old boys giving him handjobs are? And the little girls in Thailand, squatting over him and shitting in his mouth, they certainly aren’t blond and blue-eyed. Poor, misunderstood Rush.

Upon Further Review said:

So the joke’s on you, Tommy. You hear “juvenile delinquent” and think “black person.” You hear “graffiti” and think “black person.” You hear “gang” and think “black person.”

At least now we know why the “weapon” was secret. Tommt didn’t really have a gun in his coat pocket; it was just his finger all along.

Tommt, or Tommy, either one.

Upon Further Review said:
Keep digging, Tommy. Here’s why your last post was an airball:

1. You have no credentials to be the arbiter of what “normal people” see or don’t see.

My argument doesn’t rest on that, but on the flawed logic that dittoheads employ, which you have failed to address.

Tommy Christopher Even smart people can succumb to conditioning, and surrender their ability to think for themselves. Explaining slowly and patiently is a means to break that conditioning.

Whats so ironic is that you seem to be incapable of accepting the possibility that YOU are the one who has been conditioned.

Upon Further Review said:
Keep digging, Tommy. Here’s why your last post was an airball:

2. You have no credentials to speak with any authority on what was really in Rush’s mind.

Again, my argument doesn’t rest on mind-reading ability. Limbaugh’s use of limp disclaimers like “Here’s how to really irritate the left” demonstrates his self-consciousness.

Upon Further Review said:
Keep digging, Tommy. Here’s why your last post was an airball:

3. So what if “black criminal” is a stereotype? What you still haven’t proved is that EVERY reference to a “juvenile delinquent,” “graffiti” and “gang” inextricably points to that stereotype.

This is not the standard of proof. I don’t have to prove that EVERY reference is an evocation of the stereotype, just THIS one.

Rush Limbaugh is a racist because he predicted somebody would call him a racist for saying something that isn’t racist unless you make an assumption that is inherently racist. Tommy Christopher, ladies and gentlemen!

I’m not calling people who disagree with me stupid, not even the dittoheads. Even smart people can succumb to conditioning, and surrender their ability to think for themselves. Explaining slowly and patiently is a means to break that conditioning.

We have no problem thinking for ourselves, Tommy. But your comments are ironic, considering how thoroughly you carry the water for the left. Couldn’t one say the same about you?

Tommy Christopher said:
My argument doesn’t rest on that, but on the flawed logic that dittoheads employ, which you have failed to address.

Here yo go again, making sweeping generalizations about people base don skin color and stereotypes. Do you think anyone who listened to Rush during this segment and agreed is a racist? Do you think that everyone who listened, used it as justification to hate black people?

Why can you not see that you’re doing EXACTLY what you claim Rush is doing?

Jim Treacher said:
Rush Limbaugh is a racist because he predicted somebody would call him a racist for saying something that isn’t racist unless you make an assumption that is inherently racist. Tommy Christopher, ladies and gentlemen!

BINGO!

It tells it all when Hugo Daun, Rocksteady ,Spinecrusher, Ganymede, are pretty much the only ones that are on the same level as Tommy. Couldn’t get the 200 hits so you had to unleash the super-secret weapon. What are you, a five year old. Next time keep your charity to yourself or the 10 little like minded followers you have. The only reason you get any attention on the articles you butcher with your own racist comments is because most normal people see the flaw in your logic.

Jim Treacher said:
At least now we know why the “weapon” was secret. Tommt didn’t really have a gun in his coat pocket; it was just his finger all along.

That’s all you need when your opponent is using a feather.

Tommy Christopher said:
This is not the standard of proof. I don’t have to prove that EVERY reference is an evocation of the stereotype, just THIS one.

You didn’t prove anything. You just accused Rush of being racist because he called Obama a thug and you think the word thug is a racial stereotype of black people. When leftists call Bush a thug, I doubt you found anything racist about it.

Face it Timmy, you’re the only one making racist generalizations here.

Jim Treacher said:
Rush Limbaugh is a racist

Hey, you said it, I didn’t.

Dronetek said:
You just accused Rush of being racist

Whoah, when did I do that?

You know, it’s hard for me to listen to one party that openly employed the Southern Strategy (and in my mind still does), thriving on racial prejudices to win elections in more prejudiced/less educated areas, call the other party full of racists, even if the other party is throwing around the term too loosely.

Tommy Christopher said:
Whoah, when did I do that?

You must really take us all for idiots.

Tommy Christopher said:
Hey, you said it, I didn’t.

Pee-Wee Heman, folks.

Dronetek said:
You must really take us all for idiots.

No, he just relies on your assumption that he’s capable of intellectual honesty. You won’t make that mistake again, will you?

Tommy Christopher said:
I’m not… smart

You said it, I didn’t.

Jim Treacher

I didn’t say Rush Limbaugh was racist. If you can’t argue what I actually did say, then how can I expect you to relay it to the rest of the dittoheads?

why o you guys even bother with this tommy guy, he uses his bigoted views and far left propaganda to call people racist or as he says does not do it directly but infers

Speaking of race-baiting liberals, this is priceless!

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee to MSNBC’s Ed Shultz: I’m Pretty Sure Rush is Being Racist When He Calls You “Sergeant Shultz”…

http://weaselzippers.us/2010/11/16/rep-sheila-jackson-lee-to-msnbcs-ed-shultz-im-pretty-sure-rush-is-being-racist-when-he-calls-you-sergeant-shultz/

Tommy Christopher said:
…Rush Limbaugh was racist.

Okay, okay, we get it already.

Here’s what I actually said:

Tommy Christopher said:
Racial stereotypes are oversimplified beliefs about a group of people, based on a set of assumptions. They are used, mainly by an oppressor class, in an attempt to dehumanize, demonize, or diminish the group that they wish to oppress, to limit their opportunities, to justify shoddy treatment, or simply to excuse themselves from caring.

One such stereotype is the black criminal, reinforced over generations by depictions in popular culture and the institutional racism in our criminal justice system.

It is this stereotype that Limbaugh evoked with the tandem of his remarks and the image of Mt. Rushmore. His purpose? To demean the President, and to lay a trap for anyone who called him out on it. Unfortunately, it’s a trap that only ensnares the weak-minded, the kind of person who makes the logical leap that the person who objects to racial stereotypes is actually the racist, rather than the person employing them, the kind of person who never bothers to challenge what’s being fed into his earhole by Limbaugh, because that might require a modicum of effort.

So, no, calling Rush out for depicting the President as a stereotypical black street thug does not mean that I think all street thugs are black, or that all black people are street thugs. It means that Limbaugh’s 3rd grade sophistry doesn’t work on me, I’m not going to sit by and say, “Well, he did cover himself, didn’t he?”

No, he didn’t, not with normal people. Rush’s MO is basically, “Hey, I’m not slapping you in the face, I’m satirizing the sensitivity of your face by striking it with my hand!” Normal people see the obvious flaw in that logic. Now, hopefully, so will you dittoheads. Go and sin no more.

cjd ohio, you are so right. Tommy actually tries to say he’s not saying Rush listeners are idiots when he said this:

I will explain on one condition: you dittoheads have to promise to go explain it reeeeal sloooow to all of your dittohead friends.

Right Tommy. You know you were, just MAN UP and admit it.

well, i dont listen to rush very much, just catch it here and there, so i am not defending him. but this tommy guy is funny because he talks in circles, just infers then runs from his comments

Tommy Christopher said:
Again, my argument doesn’t rest on mind-reading ability. Limbaugh’s use of limp disclaimers like “Here’s how to really irritate the left” demonstrates his self-consciousness.

Sure — it demonstrates his self-consciousness about deliberately yanking the left’s chain, and your reaction suggests that in at least one case, he succeeded.

But it doesn’t demonstrate that he was going for a racial stereotype. Your only apparent “proof” of that is your proclamation that Limbaugh’s comment was a “limp disclaimer.”

Ummm … you’re back to square one, Tommy. You seem to be confusing “unsubstantiated opinion” with “objective proof.”

Pray tell, what makes Limbaugh’s statement a “limp disclaimer,” other than your subjective say-so?

Tommy Christopher said:
Here’s what I actually said:

You do know what an “implication” is, right? Sure you do. You’re just playing childish games in hopes someone out there is dull enough to play along.

Upon Further Review said:
Pray tell, what makes Limbaugh’s statement a “limp disclaimer,” other than your subjective say-so?

It seems your objection is with the adjective “limp.” Fair enough. Let me rephrase. Rush Limbaugh’s disclaimer that “it doesn’t take much to irritate the left” (a tactic he uses ad nauseum) demonstrates his consciousness that he is evoking a stereotype.

Tommy Christopher said:
This is not the standard of proof. I don’t have to prove that EVERY reference is an evocation of the stereotype, just THIS one.

But that’s just it, Tommy. So far, all you’ve “proved” is:

1. The “black criminal” stereotype exists,

and

2. Rush Limbaugh described President Obama, his administration and its behavior with words such as “juvenile delinquent,” “graffiti” and “gang.”

What you still haven’t proved is a LINK between the two … other than the one that exists in your own mind. In other words, just because SOME people think of blacks as criminals doesn’t mean LIMBAUGH thinks of blacks as criminals.

Look, Tommy, you could get out of this by simply adding a disclaimer — something like “This is merely my own interpretation of what Limbaugh meant.”

But you can’t substantiate your own opinion with another of your own opinions.

Dronetek said:
You do know what an “implication” is, right? Sure you do. You’re just playing childish games in hopes someone out there is dull enough to play along.

No, I’m not engaging in sophistry here. I’d like for you to explain how I implied that Limbaugh is a racist. I did no such thing. He is a cynical exploiter of race, a race-baiter, but I honestly don’t believe he is a racist. That makes his cynical exploitation that much more revolting. He actually knows better.

Tommy Christopher said:
Rush Limbaugh’s disclaimer that “it doesn’t take much to irritate the left” (a tactic he uses ad nauseum) demonstrates his consciousness that he is evoking a stereotype.

I’m starting to think the reason Tommy’s so sensitive to “dog whistles” is because he eats off the floor and needs to go for walkies.

Tommy Christopher said:
Rush Limbaugh’s disclaimer that “it doesn’t take much to irritate the left” (a tactic he uses ad nauseum) demonstrates his consciousness that he is evoking a stereotype.

No, its a statement of the mission he carries out on a daily basis and applies to a wide range of issues that have nothing to do with race.

Upon Further Review said:
LIMBAUGH thinks of blacks as criminals.

I didn’t say he thinks of black people as criminals, I said he deliberately evoked the stereotype. The worst manipulators of stereotypes are the ones who actually know better, but do it anyway.

Something a vocal coach once told me: Never try to teach a pig to sing (replace with “think”). It’s a waste of time and it annoys the pig.

Tommy Christopher said:
He is a cynical exploiter of race, a race-baiter,

How do you think he exploits race and to what end? Do you think his listeners are all white and all receptive to racial exploitation? Why do you think he was exploiting race in this case?

Dronetek said:
No, its a statement of the mission he carries out on a daily basis and applies to a wide range of issues that have nothing to do with race.

No, but see, if he announces that what he’s about to say is going to irritate somebody, he’s NOT predicting that they’ll fire back based on an unthinking assumption. He’s really admitting that his true motive is whatever it needs to be in order for Tommy’s argument to work.

Tommy Christopher said:
I said he deliberately evoked the stereotype. The worst manipulators of stereotypes are the ones who actually know better, but do it anyway.

How did he evoke this stereotype? Are you saying that we cannot call the president a thug or part of a gang without it being anything other than racial in its motivation?

Why can you not see that YOU’RE the one who heard what he said and though, “black people”? Rush was trying to prove a point and you’re demonstrating it beautifully.

Dronetek said:
No, its a statement of the mission he carries out on a daily basis and applies to a wide range of issues that have nothing to do with race.

No, it was directly related to his graffiti statement. “it doesn’t take much to irritate the left. Try this: “Barack Obama’s presidency is graffiti on the walls of American history.”

Tommy Christopher said:
I… deliberately evoked the stereotype… actually know better, but do it anyway.

Let’s hear it for Tommy.

Dronetek said:
Rush was trying to prove a point and you’re demonstrating it beautifully.

So you agree he was consciously trying to evoke a stereotype? Magnificent! You’re right, Rush was trying to prove a point, that he can evoke racial stereotypes, and his army of dittoheads will defend him by calling anyone who points it out a “racist.” Thank you!

Tommy Christopher said:
It seems your objection is with the adjective “limp.” Fair enough. Let me rephrase. Rush Limbaugh’s disclaimer that “it doesn’t take much to irritate the left” (a tactic he uses ad nauseum) demonstrates his consciousness that he is evoking a stereotype.

OK, I can accept the fact that that’s your opinion, but I still see no proof that Limbaugh intended to evoke any such stereotype.

It’s like me declaring that Obama intended to evoke a “back of the bus” racial stereotype when he said that Republicans “can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back.” Sure, it’s possible that this is what Obama really meant, but there’s no way I can prove it.

Tommy Christopher said:
You’re right… Thank you!

You’re welcome.

Tommy Christopher said:
I didn’t say he thinks of black people as criminals, I said he deliberately evoked the stereotype. The worst manipulators of stereotypes are the ones who actually know better, but do it anyway.

And again, your subjective proof that Limbaugh “deliberately” tried to evoke this stereotype, despite knowing better, is …?

Tommy Christopher said:
So you agree he was consciously trying to evoke a stereotype?

No, I’m saying that he expressed his true feeling about this administration and knew the Obama lap dogs (you) would jump on it like a piece of raw meat.

You keep saying he “evoked” a stereotype. If he had said, “Obama is a typical black person who runs with gangs and graffiti’s walls”, then he would have been evoking stereotype. Instead, he simply called Obama a thug and used graffiti as a metaphor for a complete lack of respect for the office.

You’re the one who then took it a step further and suggested it somehow applies to black people, which is a VERY predictable reaction from the army of Obamanauts. You all have used race as a weapon for decades and have really ramped it up in the last 2 years. You have race on the brain. Its the prism you see everything through. That’s the irony of it all. You’ve become what you hate!

Tommy, do you listen to the entire Rush shows or just listen to the “Media Matters” clips??
Because I could understand how your lizard brain could overheat if you only hear the select clips .

Tommy ChristopherTry this: “Barack Obama’s presidency is graffiti on the walls of American history.”

How about you try this?

“”The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity, but that she is a typical white person. If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn’t know – there’s a reaction in her that’s been bred into our experiences that don’t go away and sometimes come out in the wrong way and that’s just the nature of race in our society. ”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg5xdRmV8Kg

Rush was trying to prove a point and you’re demonstrating it beautifully.

I would really love to know what point that was. Until then, let me try to demonstrate what I think Big Pharma was up to, to wit: “Rush Limbaugh’s supporters are friggin’ retards. No, I don’t mean that they have extra chromosomes. They’re just profoundly stupid.” Or how about this one? “Sarah Palin is one dumb bitch. Oh, c’mon. I don’t mean she’s a dog, just that she couldn’t find the point if it was programmed into her GPS device. Hell, she probably can’t even work the device itself.” (I probably shouldn’t have taken that gratuituous shot at Palin, because now Treacher’ll be here all day.)

Barack the Magic Negro

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_the_Magic_Negro

Tommy Christopher said:
My argument doesn’t rest on that, but on the flawed logic that dittoheads employ, which you have failed to address.

Actually, your argument rests on your own subjective interpretation of Limbaugh’s remarks, which you apparently mistake for objective proof.

But there’s nothing objective about statements such as: “It is this stereotype that Limbaugh evoked with the tandem of his remarks and the image of Mt. Rushmore. His purpose? To demean the President, and to lay a trap for anyone who called him out on it.”

How on earth would you know what Limbaugh’s purpose really was? Come on, Tommy — it’s just your opinion; we both know that you have no objective proof.

So why is that so hard to admit?

The Dweller Ysul said:
I would really love to know what point that was.

I’ll tell you what point it was.

Just because you or I happen to perceive something doesn’t mean everybody else does … or that most people do … or that the average person would.

Sometimes, your own reaction to a particular word or image says more about you than the word or image.

To take an extreme example, a pervert might see a little girl twirling around in a dress and conclude, “Wow, she’s deliberately trying to be enticing.”

I’m not calling Tommy a pervert or saying that it’s perverted to hear words like “juvenile delinquent,” “graffiti” and “gang” and immediately conjure up the stereotype of “black criminal.”

But on the other hand, when you leap to a racial stereotype and leave other people in the room genuinely scratching their heads, perhaps it’s time to take a step back and say, “OK, maybe I should have added the disclaimer that this is what I THINK Limbaugh meant.”

The Dweller Ysul said:
“Sarah Palin is one dumb bitch. Oh, c’mon. I don’t mean she’s a dog, just that she couldn’t find the point if it was programmed into her GPS device. Hell, she probably can’t even work the device itself.” (I probably shouldn’t have taken that gratuituous shot at Palin, because now Treacher’ll be here all day.)

No need to apologize for such a witty, coherent, well-written statement.

Whoa…somebody needs a nap or a sense of humor. Most of us see the intent, the meaning, and the point. Morons like Tommy Christopher craft racism out of nothing then stamp their little feet and yell “See…See!” We do see Christopher, we see a hack looking for maybe more than the 15 minutes his talent buys. Not going to happen.

Hugo Daun said:
Great analysis, TC.

Fans of the EIB (egocentric impotent blimp) will NEVER comprehend it.

I hate to say I told you so, TC, but…

Hugo Daun said:
I hate to say I told you so, TC, but…

…why wait until you’re actually right?

ganymede said:
Nothing I read in the Mediaite comments ever really shocks me. While the majority of Mediaite-ers are normal Americans whatever their political affiliation, there are still a goodly number who are either out and out racists or are too ignorant to recognize that they are racist. Rush Limbaugh is a certified racist. He’s been that way for years, it’s a big part of his schtick. He appeals to the segment of the population who are either racist or latent racists or who are just plain all out nasty people. Some of these people are on the left side but 90% are rightwingers. It’s a joke to call a ‘bleeding heart’ liberal a racist. Most liberals at least understand the history and legacy of slavery and many rightwingers like Rand Paul sound like they would have fought against the abolition of slavery, because of their all out support for property rights! As for the constant comment that we are always pulling the race card, well there’s a bit of truth to that. We’re just calling it as we see it. Many of you have a deep seated prejudice towards blacks as well as a less emotional but equally stupid prejudice against other minorities. Your dislike of politically progressive people is also another irrational component of your world outlook. Robert Byrd was an active KKK member as a young man, but whether you want to acknowledge it or not, he travelled 360 degrees and became an outstanding liberal and ardent defender of the Constitution. There’s always hope , I say.

I never do this but I’m reprinting what I wrote yesterday in response to Tommy’s article which has produced an interesting discussion about racism. Obviously, I disagree with Tommy on one important point. Limbaugh is a calculating person who uses racist innuendo to inflame an audience, therefore he is a racist. Mediaite is, thankfully, an open forum run and owned by liberals and it’s purposefully designed to attract a large rightwing audience. This, at least, brings us all together so we can try to understand our differences. Most people I know don’t listen to Limbaugh simply because he’s a nasty, unpleasant windbag of no real interest. Once you’ve heard him there is nothing to be gained by further listening. Yet, rightwingers really get off by tuning into the liberal views expressed on Mediaite and other non-Fox outlets. Yes, we have a lot to learn from one another and I’m sure my remarks will infuriate most of you, but, hopefully, a few will come to understand that progressive/liberal left types are just as patriotic and as concerned as you are about the direction of our country.

Just because you or I happen to perceive something doesn’t mean everybody else does…

Please, UFR, that’s not what Limbaugh’s point was; his point was what it always is, that the Democrats are destroying the country. It’s the same old saw he played incessantly during the Clinton years (interestingly enough, he never made similar accusations against W even though the latter took us from budget surpluses to deficits, started 2 costly wars he couldn’t finish, and generally made a laughingstock of himself, here and abroad. Who knows, maybe Rush perceives that as having been good for the country.) Anyway, in the case of Obama, Rush elects to hammer home his point re: national destruction with the imagery of inner-city gangs, which admittedly are a destructive force in the modern landscape, but which are also connected in the public mind predominantly with poor minorities (and it’s always been this way: at the turn of the century it was Italians, Jews and the Irish), even when it’s demonstrably true that there are gangs of all ethnicities. Your apparent belief that Rush’s imagery could have all sorts of interpretations is ridiculous, so much so that you’re either being purposefully obtuse or downright clueless. Indeed, your charitable interpretation is undercut, as Tommy has pointed out over and over on this thread, by Rush’s own recognition–even glee–that using it would be upsetting to some. Obviously he understands that the imagery is loaded, and therefore apt to cause a reaction. The fact that it appears never to have occurred to you says much about you, not the population in general.

The Dweller Ysul said:
Your apparent belief that Rush’s imagery could have all sorts of interpretations is ridiculous, so much so that you’re either being purposefully obtuse or downright clueless. Indeed, your charitable interpretation is undercut, as Tommy has pointed out over and over on this thread, by Rush’s own recognition–even glee–that using it would be upsetting to some.

It’s racist to predict that other people’s assumptions will be racist. Come on, people, it’s simple logic!

Man, you loons on the left are much too easy. Rush has been pulling your strings for 20 years now, and you still bite every time! No one could possibly be that stupid, but you folks obviously are. It must be the psychiatric disorder that is liberalism, that makes you continue to react like trained dogs! It boggles my mind.

If you really want to get to him IGNORE HIM!

But… but… Barack Obama is half-black and half-white. So, if Mr Limbaugh is attacking both halves of Obama, doesn’t that make him an equal-opportunity commentator — and not a race-baiter at all?

And in this case, would it not be Andrew Sullivan and Tommy Christopher who are the true race-baiters, because they insist on seeing a racial component to every criticism — when race has nothing to do with Mr Obama’s failings?

I recognize, Treach, that I’m expecting you to assimilate information from a series of posts, and you’re a busy guy with a day job that entails you stalking a wide range of other websites, but please try to keep up. Nowhere in this thread have I even so much as used the word, “racist,” and I’ve certainly called no-one, nor inferred that anyone is, a racist. My reason for commenting at all was to call bullshit on the notion that there are somehow innocent, non-racial interpretations of Big Pharma’s gang imagery in relation to an African-American president’s conduct of his office. It is true that I can’t read a person’s mind, and determine whether their racist or not. But I CAN read their words and have pretty good idea whether their liars or morons. I’m talented like that.

Oh, and it’s a bit rich having a Dittohead lecture liberals on Rush pulling our strings. My guess is that there are a lot of things the boggle vR2012′s mind.

ganymede said:
Robert Byrd was an active KKK member as a young man, but whether you want to acknowledge it or not, he travelled 360 degrees and became an outstanding liberal and ardent defender of the Constitution. There’s always hope , I say.

How is it that the Dems can claim that Byrd was rehabilitated, but not Strom Thurmond who had a black chief-of-staff and at least one black mistress?

And how is it possible that such an “ardent defender of the Constitution” as Robert Byrd was able to vote for so much unconstitutional legislation?

The Dweller Ysul said:
I recognize, Treach, that I’m expecting you to assimilate information from a series of posts, and you’re a busy guy with a day job that entails you stalking a wide range of other websites, but please try to keep up. Nowhere in this thread have I even so much as used the word, “racist,” and I’ve certainly called no-one, nor inferred that anyone is, a racist. My reason for commenting at all was to call bullshit on the notion that there are somehow innocent, non-racial interpretations of Big Pharma’s gang imagery in relation to an African-American president’s conduct of his office. It is true that I can’t read a person’s mind, and determine whether their racist or not. But I CAN read their words and have pretty good idea whether their liars or morons. I’m talented like that.

And in that same spirit, please rest assured that I’m not calling you a racist. Whew!

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
How many minority Republicans are there in Congress again? Oh yeah.

The Democrats put a special effort into the defeat of any black Republican candidate — they are the ones who want to keep the GOP lily-white. We’ve had black candidates for governor in Ohio, for the US Senate in Pennsylvania and Maryland, for the House in a great many states — and the Democrats used every dirty trick in the book to defeat those candidates.

Now we’ll see what the BCC does when a black conservative shows up at the committee door.

PoliticalPAW said:
“conflating the first black President with an urban gang tagger”…nice white, race mongering, Progressive insult of every black person by attributing the “tagger” pejorative exclusively to blacks WHILE exploiting the “first black president” card. Do white, race mongering, Progressives automatically attribute every nefarious act to black people?

That’s very good. Yes, what Andrew and Tommy are saying is that every black person is a tagger or gangbanger, so it is is racist to identify President Obama with such low-lifes.

I would also point out that it is not Rush Limbaugh who has diminished the prestige and respect of the presidency, as was clearly demonstrated during the president’s recent visit to the G20 conference.

Kumbaya, Treach, Kumbaya.

The Dweller Ysul said:
Kumbaya, Treach, Kumbaya.

Macaca!

“Conservative radio host and serial race-baiter Rush Limbaugh has done it again”. Just how immature ARE you, Tommy Christopher? This is high school crap at best. Rant? So 9th grade.

u libs gave Bush a lot of grief…now its your turn…and u can’t take it…lol!! much more is on the way…u deserve what your getting…because its all TRUE!!!!

Rush Limbaugh Race-Bait du Jour: Obama And ‘Gang’ Are ‘Graffiti’ On Walls Of American History

Tommy Christopher said:
Even smart people can succumb to conditioning, and surrender their ability to think for themselves. Explaining slowly and patiently is a means to break that conditioning.

Funny, explaining slowly hasn’t worked on you; you’re STILL a liberal hack.

It was your headline Tommy. “Race-Bait du Jour” implies to most rational people that you are accusing Mr. Limbaugh of race baiting.

Don’t quit your day job.

Tell you what people, when Rush Limbaugh refers to Obama as our “negro in the white house” or our “nigger in chief” THEN you can call him racist. Deal? Seriously, real bigots must be scratching their heads.

The Dweller Ysul said:
Please, UFR, that’s not what Limbaugh’s point was; his point was what it always is, that the Democrats are destroying the country. It’s the same old saw he played incessantly during the Clinton years (interestingly enough, he never made similar accusations against W even though the latter took us from budget surpluses to deficits, started 2 costly wars he couldn’t finish, and generally made a laughingstock of himself, here and abroad. Who knows, maybe Rush perceives that as having been good for the country.) Anyway, in the case of Obama, Rush elects to hammer home his point re: national destruction with the imagery of inner-city gangs, which admittedly are a destructive force in the modern landscape, but which are also connected in the public mind predominantly with poor minorities (and it’s always been this way: at the turn of the century it was Italians, Jews and the Irish), even when it’s demonstrably true that there are gangs of all ethnicities. Your apparent belief that Rush’s imagery could have all sorts of interpretations is ridiculous, so much so that you’re either being purposefully obtuse or downright clueless. Indeed, your charitable interpretation is undercut, as Tommy has pointed out over and over on this thread, by Rush’s own recognition–even glee–that using it would be upsetting to some. Obviously he understands that the imagery is loaded, and therefore apt to cause a reaction. The fact that it appears never to have occurred to you says much about you, not the population in general.

But see, here’s what’s wrong with your argument: You’re so caught up in your own imagined self-righteousness that you can’t even consider the fact that your perceptions are entirely subjective, just as Tommy’s are.

That’s the problem with going through life with an elitist, “anyone who doesn’t agree with me is an idiot” point of view — there always comes a point when you’re asked to prove what you insist is obvious to “normal people” (to use Tommy’s phrase). And invariably, the only “proof” you can offer amounts to “well, ummm, it’s self-evident to me and the provincially minded people I hang around with, so you must be intellectually lacking to not see things the way we do.”

Frankly, it’s not all that difficult to skeet-shoot the subjective opinions you offer as fact, especially when you do most of the work for me. To wit:

1. You call it “ridiculous” that I pooh-pooh the claim that Rush was linking “gangs” to “black people.” Yet in the same post you concede that “it’s demonstrably true that there are gangs of all ethnicities” and that the public’s has historically associated gangs with “poor minorities,” included Italians, Jews and Irish.

Well, that’s my point — there are black gangs, white gangs, Hispanic gangs and Asian gangs in today’s major cities — so what evidence can you offer that Limbaugh was specifically referring to blacks? (Besides “I really, really think so.”)

2. So what if Rush acknowledged that his analogy would “irritate the left”? That merely proves that he was BAITING the left, not that he was RACE-BAITING the left.

3. You say Limbaugh’s point was that “the Democrats are destroying the country” and that Rush did the same thing “during the Clinton years.” Exactly — Limbaugh typically disparages DEMOCRAT administrations, not just BLACK Democrat administrations … so thank you for proving my point.

OK, first of all Tommy I would advise you to go look up the words racists and racism, bigot and bigotry, and prejudice in a Websters dictionary (I’m sure you have one up on a bookshelf collecting dust) and understand what the difference is between each of those.

Now, kick, scream, whine, and moan while trying to explain that Rush Limbaugh is racist. And please do try to be thorough in your research and explanation. I would hate to have to come back and show you where Rush was reporting what someone else said (in either his show or a parody). I have strong doubts that you’ll be able to prove that he is racist (ahem, someone who believes that one race, usually their own, is superior to another).

Bigot or prejudice? Hmm… maybe, if you over-generalize the meaning of the words like you have with racists/racism. He’s certainly intolerant (bigoted) towards liberal ideals, the disregard of the Constitution/’individual liberty’, the deliberate growth and power of the government, and ‘boot on the throat’ of the economy by this Administration. I would point out that you sir are also a bigot, but I digress.

Now to comment on everything else you said here.

Tommy Christopher said:
Okay, we’re still a few shy of 200, but I’m feeling charitable. I will explain on one condition: you dittoheads have to promise to go explain it reeeeal sloooow to all of your dittohead friends. One of our (non-dittohead) commenters touched on it earlier, but allow me to elaborate.

Racial stereotypes are oversimplified beliefs about a group of people, based on a set of assumptions. They are used, mainly by an oppressor class, in an attempt to dehumanize, demonize, or diminish the group that they wish to oppress, to limit their opportunities, to justify shoddy treatment, or simply to excuse themselves from caring.

One such stereotype is the black criminal, reinforced over generations by depictions in popular culture and the institutional racism in our criminal justice system.

What if it is statistically proven, as it has been on multiple occasions including reports from the U.S. Department of Justice, that of all the violent crimes committed, that black people are “eight times more likely than whites to commit homicides” (From U.S. Department of Justice) is true?

Please excuse me for assuming that you use the word ‘stereotype’ as a ‘standardized and simplified conceptions of groups based on some prior assumptions’ with ‘assumptions’ being not necessarily true.

How is it inherently a racial stereotype if the statistics show it to be true?

I would also like to touch upon the ‘institutional racism in our criminal justice system’. Are you saying that our criminal justice system is racist? That somehow our criminal justice system believes that one race is superior to another? Are you making a claim that blacks are getting the ‘short end of the stick’ and that whites and/or other races get the equivalent of a ‘Get Out of Jail Free’ card? If you are, I hope you have plenty of credible proof to back up that claim. If not, then please explain what you think ‘institutional racism in our criminal justice system’ is to us ‘dittoheads’ reeeeally sloooow please.

I’ll grant you that there is profiling in a criminal justice system, and there has been a huge outcry over profiling. If someone within the criminal justice system is creating profile policies based solely on race and not on statistics, then I’ll conceed to your point of ‘institutional racism’. However, I have not seen nor heard of any credible reports to prove that profiling is based solely upon some kind of racist motivation. Also, ignoring the statistics for the sake of not offending someone is ridiculous at best and suicidal at worst. After 9/11, did it make sense to pat down 80 year-old dutch grandmothers in airports for hidden explosives? No, of course not. What you would look for was young men, of arabic decent… especially ones that acted out of character (attentive, nervous, etc.). If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck,…

Also you may have not known but, FBI and local police both use and employ professional profilers. Why? Because profiling works.

Profiling based upon statistical information and fact is not institutional racism.

Of course profiling doesn’t work 100% of the time, there is always that ‘white’ muslim jihadist. But you just can’t dedicate your resources to look at everyone for the sake of not offending someone. So, to make best use of your resources and to create the best chance for success, you profile. If your car doesn’t start, do you do an oil change to see if that fixes it? I would hope not.

Tommy Christopher said:
It is this stereotype that Limbaugh evoked with the tandem of his remarks and the image of Mt. Rushmore. His purpose? To demean the President, and to lay a trap for anyone who called him out on it. Unfortunately, it’s a trap that only ensnares the weak-minded, the kind of person who makes the logical leap that the person who objects to racial stereotypes is actually the racist, rather than the person employing them, the kind of person who never bothers to challenge what’s being fed into his earhole by Limbaugh, because that might require a modicum of effort.

So, no, calling Rush out for depicting the President as a stereotypical black street thug does not mean that I think all street thugs are black, or that all black people are street thugs. It means that Limbaugh’s 3rd grade sophistry doesn’t work on me, I’m not going to sit by and say, “Well, he did cover himself, didn’t he?”

Glad to hear that you know that not all street thugs are black, cause I was worried that you might think I was a street thug.

Tommy Christopher said:
No, he didn’t, not with normal people. Rush’s MO is basically, “Hey, I’m not slapping you in the face, I’m satirizing the sensitivity of your face by striking it with my hand!” Normal people see the obvious flaw in that logic. Now, hopefully, so will you dittoheads. Go and sin no more.

That’s it? This was the bombshell you were promising if 200 or more dittoheads replied? This was the bombshell that was supposed to just leave us in pieces, pulling our hair out, and crying out “You were right Tommy, {sniffle} how could we have been so blind?”

Wow, I was just biting my nails in anticipation waiting to see some kind of well-educated, thought out, and detailed comment that would have made me see the error of my ways. Instead, we get the emotional response equivalent of a temper-tantrum filled with insults and personal opinions as facts.

One would hope that journalism isn’t your primary source of income. If you are, then let me remind you of something that should have been taught in your journalism school. While you may go and report on public figures nd even go on the offensive and verbally attack them, as you have with Rush, you make yourself out to be a complete moron to insult your readers. Not only because your credibility as a journalist is at stake, but you aren’t winning over converts when you resort to emotional ragtag responses and juvenile insults.