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		<title>Facebook Bans Marijuana Legalization Ads Over Scary Pot Leaf, Creepy &#8220;Cartoonify Yourself&#8221; Ads To Remain</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 22:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jon Bershad</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Considering Facebook was created by and for college students, they appear to have a surprisingly negative view of marijuana. The social networking giant has apparently changed positions and <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/24/facebook-blocks-ads-for-p_n_692295.html">banned previously accepted ads</a> from <a href="http://action.firedoglake.com/page/s/facebookcensorship">Just Say Now</a> and <a href="http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/08/24/facebook-banned-marijuana-leaf-of-libertarian-party-too/">the Libertarian Party</a> that supported marijuana legalization in general and California's Proposition 19 specifically. Perhaps the website was trying to appear anti-drug before <a href="http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2010/08/debaucherous-cocaine-fueled-party.html">a certain movie hits theaters</a>.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/facebook-bans-marijuana-legalization-ads-over-scary-pot-leaf-creepy-cartoonify-yourself-ads-to-remain/attachment/bannedad/" rel="attachment wp-att-163294"><img src="http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/bannedad.png" alt="" title="bannedad" width="158" height="264" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-163294" /></a>Considering Facebook was created by and for college students, they appear to have a surprisingly negative view of marijuana. The social networking giant has apparently changed positions and <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/24/facebook-blocks-ads-for-p_n_692295.html">banned previously accepted ads</a> from <a href="http://action.firedoglake.com/page/s/facebookcensorship">Just Say Now</a> and <a href="http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/08/24/facebook-banned-marijuana-leaf-of-libertarian-party-too/">the Libertarian Party</a> that supported marijuana legalization in general and California&#8217;s Proposition 19 specifically. Perhaps the website was trying to appear anti-drug before <a href="http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2010/08/debaucherous-cocaine-fueled-party.html">a certain movie hits theaters</a>.<span id="more-163282"></span></p>
<p>The ads were apparently doing very well with the Just Say Now version garnering 38 million impressions before the site changed its mind. Facebook blamed marijuana leaves in the ads, citing a rule that bans promotion of &#8220;tobacco products,&#8221; which is strange considering a cartoon pot leaf is neither tobacco nor a product.</p>
<p>From <a href="http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/08/24/facebook-censors-marijuana-help-us-fight-back/">FireDogLake.com</a> which is helping organize Just Say Now:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We’re not running ads encouraging Facebook users to smoke pot, tobacco, or to drink alcohol. We are clearly advocating for a political issue that will be voted on in Facebook’s home state in less than three months. If we can’t use the most recognizable image to organize supporters in favor of marijuana legalization, it’s essentially like being banned from showing our candidate’s face in an election.</p>
<p>Marijuana legalization isn’t a fringe issue: our campaign has the support of law enforcement like former Seattle police chief Norm Stamper, former Reagan Assistant Deputy Attorney General Bruce Fein, and people all across the political spectrum.</p>
<p>Facebook’s censorship of this political issue only advances the failed drug policies of our country by blocking an open discussion of these critical issues. Marijuana legalization on the move, but Facebook wants to block the issue.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Over on the Huffington Post, <strong>Ryan Grim</strong> <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/24/facebook-blocks-ads-for-p_n_692295.html">points out the danger this entails</a> for the movement saying that &#8220;for a typical college student, if it didn&#8217;t happen on Facebook, it didn&#8217;t happen.&#8221; This is especially destructive considering the fact that the voting on this subject in November will probably be split pretty heavily down generational lines. Fortunately, a number of left wing and right wing websites have agreed to promote the ad (which you can see at the top of this post).</p>
<p>Facebook does reserve the right to ban content from their site and they have in the past. Still, it&#8217;s hard to imagine that a cartoon pot leaf connected to a legitimate political movement belongs in the same category as <a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2009/0929/kill-obama-facebook-poll-latest-sign-of-healthcare-anger">a &#8220;Kill Obama&#8221; poll</a>. Perhaps <strong>John Stossel</strong> can stop <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/john-stossel-wants-to-save-us-from-the-government-tyranny-that-is-traffic-lights/">taking on traffic lights</a> and help out a belief of his that actually has a chance of becoming a reality.</p>
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		<title>Twitter Fight! Jane Hamsher and Joe Scarborough vs. Media Matters Over Erick Erickson</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 16:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tommy Christopher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the heels of a<a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/erick-erickson-left-and-right-agree-conservatives-shouldnt-be-on-cnn/"> New York Times article</a> in which Firedoglake founder <strong>Jane Hamsher</strong> praised <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/red-states-erick-erickson-relocating-to-john-king-usa/">CNN's hiring of </a>Redstate chief <strong>Erick Erickson</strong>, a pretty intense Twitter fight broke out in which Hamsher continued her defense of Erickson. In the process, she denounced Media Matters, and got a minor assist from <em>Morning Joe</em> host <strong>Joe Scarborough</strong>. They all seem to have missed the point.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-122701" height="200" width="298" title="erickerickson1" src="http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/erickerickson1-e1273682301805.jpg" />On the heels of a<a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/erick-erickson-left-and-right-agree-conservatives-shouldnt-be-on-cnn/"> New York Times article</a> in which Firedoglake founder <strong>Jane Hamsher</strong> praised <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/red-states-erick-erickson-relocating-to-john-king-usa/">CNN&#8217;s hiring of </a>Redstate chief <strong>Erick Erickson</strong>, a pretty intense Twitter fight broke out in which Hamsher continued her defense of Erickson. In the process, she denounced Media Matters, and got a minor assist from <em>Morning Joe</em> host <strong>Joe Scarborough</strong>. They all seem to have missed the point.<span id="more-122625"></span></p>
<p>Media Matters&#8217; <strong>Oliver Willis</strong> took Hamsher to task regarding<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/12/us/politics/12erickson.html?src=twt&amp;twt=nytimes"> this quote from the NYT piece</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Jane Hamsher, the publisher of the liberal blog <a href="http://firedoglake.com/">FireDogLake</a>, said that many bloggers like Mr. Erickson test rhetorical limits, but “that’s no reason to keep him off the air.” Ms. Hamsher said she would rather debate Mr. Erickson, whom she called an “honest broker,” than an opponent reciting prescribed talking points.</p>
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<p>Willis immediately took to Twitter to denounce Hamsher, Tweeting: &#8220;Jane Hamsher Supports Erick Erickson, Who <a href=" http://bit.ly/afm3ng">Called  Michelle Obama</a> “A Marxist Harpy” <a rel="bookmark" href="http://twitter.com/owillis/status/13810639391">about 18 hours ago&#8221;</a></p>
<p>It took awhile, but after several hours of tweets, she began to respond,<a href="http://twitter.com/janehamsher/status/13819920809"> reinforcing her original quote</a>: &#8220;&#8230;(Erickson) is sincere in what he believes, even if we don&#8217;t  agree on much. He&#8217;s not a liar.&#8221;</p>
<p>She then<a href="http://twitter.com/janehamsher/status/13820418846"> accused Willis</a>, and Media Matters, of mis-attributing a quote to her, before <a href="http://twitter.com/janehamsher/status/13820542706">drawing Scarborough in</a>: &#8220;Unlike @<a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/MMFA">MMFA</a> &amp; @<a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/owilllis">owilllis</a>, I don&#8217;t think ppl with different opinions  than me like @<a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/JoeNBC">JoeNBC</a> &amp; @<a rel="nofollow" href="http://twitter.com/ewerickson">ewerickson</a> should be purged from TV.&#8221;</p>
<p>Joe Scarborough, for his part, had already tweeted about the Erickson piece, <a href="http://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/13812926177">observing</a> that the Redstate chief is &#8220;no friend of the corrupt GOP Establishment. He also <a href="http://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/13820677741">responded to Hamsher</a> by saying &#8220;An open mind! What a precious thing to possess in  these days of hate and rage. Reasoned debate moves us forward as a  country.&#8221;</p>
<p>Willis and Hamsher continued to trade barbs for several hours, with Willis opining that Erickson is a &#8220;foul-mouthed hooligan who infects our culture,&#8221; and Hamsher responding that <a href="http://twitter.com/janehamsher/status/13822470454">Media Matters is no better</a>. As Willis <a href="http://twitter.com/owillis/status/13821886790">noted</a>, though, there are orders of magnitude of difference here.</p>
<p>Everybody involved is at least a little bit wrong. Hamsher&#8217;s <a href="http://twitter.com/janehamsher/status/13825097408">strongest point</a> is that Erickson is superior to a PR flack who just recites talking points, but he is definitely not an &#8220;honest broker.&#8221; But neither are Hamsher and Media Matters. They all start with a conclusion, then manipulate or create facts to support it.</p>
<p>In Erickson&#8217;s case, I don&#8217;t follow his work all that closely, and yet I can think of several outright lies off the top of my head. He<a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/redstates-erick-erickson-gives-as-good-as-he-gets-with-stephen-colbert/"> lied straight to</a> <strong>Stephen Colbert</strong>&#8216;s face about White House adviser <strong>Linda Douglass</strong>, then was<a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/stephen-colbert-and-white-house-official-to-redstates-erick-erickson-you-lie/"> called out for it</a> by Douglass herself. In defending his infamous &#8220;pull a shotgun on a census worker&#8221; remarks, <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-attacks-bill-press-reacts-to-erick-erickson-shotgun-comments/">Erickson claimed</a> that census workers were threatening people with jail, when his own source material said no such thing.</p>
<p>Hamsher, meanwhile, drew the ire of many progressives when she l<a href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jane-hamshers-fox-friends-appearance-causes-firedogstorm/">ed a last-minute assault</a> on the health care reform bill. In trashing the bill, she invoked the<a href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/white-house-big-pharma-we-have-a-problem/"> $80 billion PhRMA deal</a>, with which she had no problem six months earlier, when she was still on board. (See updates)</p>
<p>Media Matters, which does excellent work curating right-wing lunacy, has also decided to wage a dishonest, scattershot campaign against this site. While they began by making some fair points, they were last seen<a href="http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005110065"> twisting themselves in knots</a> trying to explain how <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/elena-kagans-personal-life-to-enter-spotlight/">our mention</a> of retracted <strong>Elena Kagan</strong> rumors differs from<a href="http://mediamatters.org/blog/201005100012"> their mention</a> of our mention. Such is the nature of watchdogs, sometimes they don&#8217;t care who they bite.</p>
<p>Having said all of that, Hamsher is absolutely right that a TV landscape rid of anyone who ever screwed up or acted recklessly would be a barren, dull wilderness. Recklessness is the coin of the hyper-partisan blogger&#8217;s realm, and anyone who graduates it is going to have some skeletons in the closet.</p>
<p>My problem with the CNN job isn&#8217;t Erickson, he&#8217;s<a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/jon-stewart-torches-cnn-and-redstates-erick-erickson/"> just being himself</a>. I&#8217;ll certainly take him over MSNBC&#8217;s <strong>Pat Buchanan</strong> any day. My problem was with CNN&#8217;s above-the-fray pose. They can&#8217;t hire a guy like Erickson, then pretend to be the down-the-middle safe haven for &#8220;real journalism.&#8221; They need to admit they&#8217;re in the opinion journalism business as surely as Fox and MSNBC are, and there&#8217;s nothing wrong with that.</p>
<p><strong>Update:</strong> Jane Hamsher <a href="http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/05/12/mediaite-dont-set-yourself-up-as-judge-if-youre-not-willing-to-do-the-legwork/">has taken offense</a> at part of my post, so allow me to clarify further. My point about Hamsher was that she used the PhRMA deal to <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jane-hamshers-fox-friends-appearance-causes-firedogstorm/">condemn the health care reform bill when it suited her</a>, but had no objection to it six months earlier when arguing <em>for</em> the bill with <strong>Jillian Bandes</strong>. You can see the clip <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jane-hamshers-fox-friends-appearance-causes-firedogstorm/">here</a>. She is correct to point out that, in the interval between the two, she <em>did </em>express opposition to the PhRMA deal. It is possible that Hamsher was completely ignorant of the deal in July, when that clip was filmed. If so, I apologize. I gave her more credit than that, and she didn&#8217;t object when I published that piece in December.</p>
<p>There are many better examples of this, but I chose to use this one, and only this one, because my aim was not to trash Hamsher, but to illustrate a pretty non-controversial point, and because this was one of the few pieces of bullshit that <strong>Ezra Klein</strong> hadn&#8217;t <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2009/12/jane_hamshers_10_reaons_to_kil.html">already picked up on</a>. Hamsher&#8217;s <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-hamsher/top-10-reasons-to-kill-th_b_399245.html">anti-reform rant </a>was chock full of half-baked stats and overheated talking points.</p>
<p>Ironically, her rebuttal provides an even better example of the point I was trying to make. She writes a lengthy response to me and my post, then trashes Mediaite for its handling of the <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/obama-sex-scandal-national-enquirer/#comment-50804">National Enquirer story</a>, but omits the fact that I wrote a <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/lessons-learned-from-drudge-driven-national-enquirer-barack-obama-affair-story/">lengthy criticism of that very story</a>. (Interestingly, Media Matters<a href="http://mediamatters.org/research/201005030039"> tried the exact same thing</a>, but had the class to correct it.) It is that kind of factual manipulation that I was attempting to illustrate. Partisan bloggers have no duty to be fair.</p>
<p>As distasteful as I found Hamsher&#8217;s tactics, I still agree that leaving the<a href="http://www.mediaite.com/tag/public-option/"> public option</a> out of the bill was a major mistake that severely damaged its value. I also <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/jane-hamsher-grover-norquist-name-checked-on-air-force-one/">reported fairly</a> on her alliance with <strong>Grover Norquist</strong>, and <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/firedoglake-trades-body-blows-with-drudge-spoofer-over-pac-expenditures/">defended her </a>when her use of PAC contributions were questioned. This was not about trashing Jane Hamsher. It was about fairness.</p>
<p><strong>Update 2:</strong> Jane Hamsher says she didn&#8217;t know there was any problem with<a href="http://dailydose.us/2009/06/22/big-pharma-offers-president-obama-crumbs-to-preserve-their-cake/"> the PhRMA deal</a> when she made that TV appearance. I went back to June of 2009 on Firedoglake, and sure enough, there were no stories about the PhRMA deal, so I&#8217;ll take her at her word there. It honestly never occurred to me that she just didn&#8217;t know. While my words were technically accurate, they conveyed an unfair impression based on a faulty assumption.</p>
<p>Even granting that, though, I stand by my original point, as buttressed <a href="http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/05/12/mediaite-dont-set-yourself-up-as-judge-if-youre-not-willing-to-do-the-legwork/">by her response</a>. Not only did she omit <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/lessons-learned-from-drudge-driven-national-enquirer-barack-obama-affair-story/">my response</a> to the National Enquirer story, she also claims that the New York Times &#8220;reported the existence&#8221; of the PhRMA deal on August 9, 2009. This is inaccurate. The <em>existence</em> of the PhRMA deal was &#8220;reported&#8221; on June 20, 2009, <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Statement-from-President-Obama-on-Agreement-to-Bring-Down-Drug-Prices-for-Americas-Seniors/">by the White House</a>. Hamsher knows this. These are the small bits of fudge that flavor advocacy journalism. Again, I don&#8217;t think this is a controversial point.</p>
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		<title>Firedoglake Takes Heat From Drudge Spoofer Over PAC Expenditures</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tommy Christopher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Liberal blog Firedoglake is embroiled in a mini-blogwar with the founder of spoof site <a href="http://drudge.com">The Drudge Retort</a> over <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/3/29/852037/-How-Jane-Hamsher-Spends-Her-PAC-Money">questions surrounding</a> FDL PAC's <a href="http://action.firedoglake.com/page/content/2009expenses/">expenditures</a>. FDL founder and unlikely Fox News darling <strong>Jane Hamsher</strong> became a polarizing figure on the left when she<a href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jane-hamshers-fox-friends-appearance-causes-firedogstorm/"> jumped ship</a> on <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/jane-hamsher-grover-norquist-name-checked-on-air-force-one/">health care reform</a>, and this report smacks of payback. The implication is that Hamsher is lining her own pockets at the expense of PAC donors.</p> <p>While the conflict has <a href="http://twitter.com/rcade/status/11321473470">spilled over onto Twitter</a>, is there any fire to go along with all the smoke?]]></description>
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<p>Liberal blog Firedoglake is embroiled in a mini-blogwar with the founder of spoof site <a href="http://drudge.com">The Drudge Retort</a> over <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/3/29/852037/-How-Jane-Hamsher-Spends-Her-PAC-Money">questions surrounding</a> FDL PAC&#8217;s <a href="http://action.firedoglake.com/page/content/2009expenses/">expenditures</a>. FDL founder and unlikely Fox News darling <strong>Jane Hamsher</strong> became a polarizing figure on the left when she<a href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jane-hamshers-fox-friends-appearance-causes-firedogstorm/"> jumped ship</a> on <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/jane-hamsher-grover-norquist-name-checked-on-air-force-one/">health care reform</a>, and this report smacks of payback. The implication is that Hamsher is lining her own pockets at the expense of PAC donors.</p>
<p>While the conflict has <a href="http://twitter.com/rcade/status/11321473470">spilled over onto Twitter</a>, is there any fire to go along with all the smoke?</p>
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<p>In the interest of full disclosure, I was <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jane-hamshers-fox-friends-appearance-causes-firedogstorm/">among those who felt</a> that Hamsher&#8217;s self-serving, self-contradictory opposition of health care reform <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2009/12/jane_hamshers_10_reaons_to_kil.html">smacked of dishonesty</a>. I also don&#8217;t have much use for her website, which has so far managed to horribly botch the facts in <a href="http://dailydose.us/2009/11/12/tbogg-is-the-boyfriend-keith-olbermann-deserves/">2 out of 2 stories</a> it has written about me.</p>
<p>Having said that, Drudge Retort founder <strong>Rogers Cadenhead</strong> doesn&#8217;t seem to have the goods on Hamsher. While it is illuminating to see how the FEC shows the PAC money being spent, it all seems to match up pretty well with Hamsher&#8217;s <a href="http://action.firedoglake.com/page/content/2009expenses/">own disclosure</a>. It would have been nice if Hamsher had given Cadenhead the more detailed information he sought, but the sums in question here are relatively minor, and Hamsher&#8217;s explanations are credible.</p>
<p>Cadenfield also raised questions about A<a href="http://www.accountabilitynowpac.com/">ccountability Now PAC</a>, to which <a href="http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/03/30/greenwald-responds/"><strong>Glenn Greenwald</strong> responded</a> at great length. In his response, Greenwald assesses the motivation behind this report:</p>
<blockquote><p>This smear comes from one place: blogs that are devoted to revering Barack Obama and despising anyone who speaks ill of him. Just like Bush followers invariably tried to slime the personal credibility of anyone who dissented from their movement (Richard Clarke, Joe Wilson, Paul O’Neill, David Frum), the real purpose of this is to try to smear Jane Hamsher (and, much more distantly, me) for the Crime of Speaking Ill of the Leader. If enough money signs are thrown around enough times with her name, Obama cultists who view her as a Traitor will declare that some great impropriety has taken place.</p>
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<p>On the other hand, Firedoglake&#8217;s a FDL reader/diarist&#8217;s <a href="http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/38166">vitriolic response</a> was uncalled-for, yet characteristic. Rather than address Cadenfield&#8217;s post substantively, they set out to prove the guy is a nobody. Kinda flies in the face of that &#8220;democratization of the media&#8221; that the blogosphere is supposed to be all about, but it&#8217;s the predictable go-to for lazy, petulant bloggers.</p>
<p>The rift on the left over health care reform has ended many a friendship, and the glow of victory might not be enough to heal it. Time will tell if the echoes of Hamsher&#8217;s ripped from-Fox-News talking points will fade, or if there will be more attacks like this.</p>
<p><strong>Update:</strong> Jane Hamsher points out that the blog post responding to Cadenfield was written by a diarist in a FDL reader forum, not a Firedoglake blogger. This is roughly the equivalent of a comment at Mediaite, and not representative of FDL&#8217;s editorial viewpoint.</p>
<p>Hamsher also gave the following comment to Mediaite regarding Cadenfield&#8217;s report:</p>
<blockquote><p>Glenn runs Accountability Now, which is a non-partisan organization, and  I run FDL PAC, which is a progressive organization.  FDL PAC went well  beyond the level of disclosure required by the FEC, and I&#8217;m  extraordinarily proud of what we managed to accomplish on a shoestring  budget.  There wasn&#8217;t one meal, entertainment expense or travel receipt  in the report.  Not that there would have been anything wrong if there  had been, but between FEC compliance and program costs, there wasn&#8217;t a  penny to spare.  This was an attack meant to shut down fundraising, no  different from the attacks on ACORN or the labor unions by the right.   There are many ways to engage in a political disagreement that don&#8217;t  involve trying to destroy an organization&#8217;s ability to pay its staff a  living wage for the work that they do.  This wasn&#8217;t one of them.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[When looking ahead at the next year, pundits turn into prognosticators. Bloggers covering all sorts of topics and industries are now giving their predictions for what's to come in 2010. Conventional wisdom says to go the conservative route with these choices in order to avoid looking foolish when none of your projections pan out. At the same time, there's a key difference between picking things that are realistically possible and those that are already on the road to happening. I've assembled my favorite predictions covering a variety of fields and what's supposedly in store for the near future:]]></description>
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<p>When looking ahead at the next year, pundits turn into prognosticators. Bloggers covering all sorts of topics and industries are now giving their predictions for what&#8217;s to come in 2010. Conventional wisdom says to go the conservative route with these choices in order to avoid looking foolish when none of your projections pan out. At the same time, there&#8217;s a key difference between picking things that are realistically possible and those that are already on the road to happening. I&#8217;ve assembled my favorite predictions covering a variety of fields and what&#8217;s supposedly in store for the near future:<span id="more-63296"></span></p>
<p><span><strong>Recovering Economy:</strong> </span>&#8220;Starting in Q1, unemployment will slip a half percentage point per quarter&#8230;We’re already seeing average work-week hours go up and number of temp workers go up. This is <em>always</em> the precursor to employers ultimately hiring new full-time employees,&#8221; says <strong>James Altucher</strong> at the <em><a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/financial-adviser/2009/12/22/ten-predictions-for-2010/" target="_blank">Wall Street Journal</a></em>. Once the jobs become available, though, the question could turn to how big a learning curve should be granted to employees adjusting back to the workforce.</p>
<p><strong>Social Media Business:</strong> &#8220;Facebook will go public&#8230;Registrations are still growing nicely but showing signs of deceleration. Friendster&#8217;s remains and the slow fade at MySpace are warning signs of what can happen to a social-networking site after it peaks,&#8221;says <span><strong>Rick Aristotle Munarrizat</strong> at the <a href="http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2009/12/30/5-more-predictions-for-2010.aspx" target="_blank">Motley Fool</a>. Each year, <strong>Mark Zuckerberg</strong> grows another year removed from his original college-aged audience and from the excitement of having his own venture.</span></p>
<p><span><strong>Sarah Palin Politics:</strong> &#8220;</span><span>The only thing Sarah Palin will be president of in 2012 will be TV ratings. Palin will get a talk show as early as next year. We’re betting a startup like Lifetime or Bravo will make an offer she can’t refuse,&#8221; says <strong>Daniel Stone</strong> at <em><a href="http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/archive/2009/12/17/our-political-predictions-for-2010.aspx" target="_blank">Newsweek</a></em>. It&#8217;ll remind America how likable the lady from Alaska was when she first arrived on the scene in September 2008, and viewers will find comfort in her television persona and presence.</span></p>
<p><strong>Housing Decisions:</strong> &#8220;The threat of nuclear terrorism renews interest in living outside of large urban areas, further depressing housing prices in the larger metropolitan areas,&#8221; says a blogger at <a href="http://seekingalpha.com/article/180325-u-s-economy-10-predictions-for-2010" target="_blank">SeekingAlpha</a>. This will re-define what real estate agents mean by &#8220;Location, location, location&#8221; as homebuyers put their safety at the top of their lists.</p>
<p><span><strong>Foreign Affairs: </strong>&#8220;</span>There will be many strikes in the coming months, and many demonstrations on the streets of Athens,&#8221; says Barnaby Phillips at <a href="http://blogs.aljazeera.net/europe/2009/12/30/south-eastern-europe-crystal-ball-2010" target="_blank">al Jazeera</a>. Some Middle-Eastern countries are already hosts to protests against corruption, but Greece will emerge as a nation that demands international attention due to its financial crisis.</p>
<p><strong>Presidential Liability: </strong>&#8220;<span><strong>Michelle Obama</strong> will slip by her minders and say something outrageous. The MSM will not report it. Persons who refer to it will be denounced as racists,&#8221; says <strong>John Derbyshire</strong> in the <em><a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDAxNGUwYzIzNDM1MzIwYTljY2MyN2U0NjRlOGEwN2Q=" target="_blank">National Review</a></em>. The first lady has been relatively quiet throughout Obama&#8217;s first year in office, and she&#8217;s going to be used more going forward &#8211; with both parties bracing for it.</span></p>
<p><strong>Internet Accessibility: </strong>&#8220;A little known technology company emerges to extend wireless across unlicensed bandwidths, with dramatic impact on the VoIP market,&#8221; says Rayne at <a href="http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/21516" target="_blank">FireDogLake</a>. With Americans&#8217; ever-increasing need for and reliance on wireless Internet, this service seems like a logical next step, and someone will make a major splash in the market when they figure out how to do it.</p>
<p><strong>Television Technology: </strong><span>&#8220;TV goes 3D&#8230;The television industry is looking for the next big thing to sell us. 3D TV will be the next big push. 3D will also begin to creep into PC and console games. It might not be ready for primetime on any of these platforms, but 2010 will be the year that 3D starts to make serious headway,&#8221; says Tim Bajarin at <em><a href="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2357490,00.asp" target="_blank">PC Magazine</a></em>. If <em>Avatar</em> is truly the &#8220;future of filmmaking,&#8221; then people will expect similar technology at home.</span></p>
<p><strong>Sports Pardon:</strong> &#8220;I predict [Tiger] Woods will survive this self-created mess and the public will forgive him. What he did was a disgrace, but he remains the greatest golfer in the game and maybe the greatest ever,&#8221; says Cal Thomas at <em><a href="http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2009/12/column-crystalball-gazing-what-2010-will-bring-.html" target="_blank">USA Today</a></em>. If Tiger can get going again on the green, fans will disassociate Woods&#8217; personal failings from the golfer&#8217;s professional prowess.</p>
<p><span><strong>Music Listens:</strong> &#8220;</span>It’s been coming for more than a decade, but major labels are starting to grasp the digital opportunity&#8230;Expect 2010 to be the year that the bad press on the major labels starts becoming more favorable,&#8221; says <strong>Nick Crocker </strong>at <a href="http://mashable.com/2009/12/25/music-industry-predictions-2010/" target="_blank">Mashable</a>. As all other industries are now following the lead of the consumers, the music business will have to adapt in order to survive, despite whatever growing pains and financial losses they endure at the beginning of the transition.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tommy Christopher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Liberal blogger and Firedoglake publisher <strong>Jane Hamsher</strong> has <a href="http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=1501">come under heavy fire</a> for an appearance on <em>Fox &#038; Friends</em> in which she promotes a petition to kill the current health care reform bill. Liberal critics paint her as a "useful idiot" being exploited by the right, and <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/12/22/817913/-Jane-Hamsher-appeared-on-FoxFriends-this-morning-[UPDATE]">point out Hamsher's own distaste</a> for those on the left who appear on Fox.

Hamsher <a href="http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/12/22/why-i-went-on-fox-and-friends/">has responded to the criticism</a>, but she'll have to convince a tough critic: Jane Hamsher from July. <em>That</em> Jane Hamsher seemed to have a different set of priorities.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-60703" title="hamsher" src="http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/hamsher-300x173.jpg" alt="hamsher" width="300" height="173" />Liberal blogger and Firedoglake publisher <strong>Jane Hamsher</strong> has <a href="http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=1501">come under heavy fire</a> for an appearance on <em>Fox &#038; Friends</em> in which she promotes a petition to kill the current health care reform bill. Liberal critics paint her as a &#8220;useful idiot&#8221; being exploited by the right, and <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/12/22/817913/-Jane-Hamsher-appeared-on-FoxFriends-this-morning-[UPDATE]">point out Hamsher&#8217;s own distaste</a> for those on the left who appear on Fox.</p>
<p>Hamsher <a href="http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/12/22/why-i-went-on-fox-and-friends/">has responded to the criticism</a>, but she&#8217;ll have to convince a tough critic: Jane Hamsher from July. <em>That</em> Jane Hamsher seemed to have a different set of priorities.<span id="more-60623"></span></p>
<p>Right off the bat, let me say that I don&#8217;t see anything wrong with Democrats, progressives, or anyone at all appearing on Fox. <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/13/classic-tems-michael-yon-andrew-malcolm-christopher-howe/">I go on conservative talk shows</a> all the time. If your argument has merit, it makes sense that you would bring it to people who don&#8217;t already agree with you.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the <em>Fox &amp; Friends</em> clip, in which Hamsher is shocked, shocked, I tell you, to learn that the White House and the Senate Finance Committee have cut a crummy deal with PHrMA:</p>
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<p>In Hamsher&#8217;s response to her critics, this is the section she highlights:</p>
<blockquote><p>In 2000, the Republicans passed Medicare Part D, and it had no negotiation for prescription drug prices.  And then in 2006, when the Democrats took over Congress, the first thing they did was say “hey, we’re going to roll that back, we’re going to allow for [negotiation of] prescription drug prices to be passed.  But now that they actually have the chance, they’re not doing it.  And you’ve got people like Jeff Sessions on the floor of the Senate saying this is criminal, this deal is criminal, but he didn’t vote for it in 2000 or 2006 when he had the chance.  So we’re sort of looking at a situation where people on the right, people on the left, are looking at the Senate, and they’re saying “nobody’s there representing us.  Nobody’s representing the people.”  It’s just a matter of who’s in power and who’s taking PhRMA’s money.</p></blockquote>
<p>Is she wrong about the PHrMA deal? No, she&#8217;s just <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/white-house-big-pharma-we-have-a-problem/">6 months late</a>. In fact, in this clip from July, she not only <em>knows</em> about the PHrMA deal, she has to fight against a conservative who <em>uses it against her</em>:</p>
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<p>This is the real problem with Hamsher&#8217;s Fox appearance. She&#8217;s dishonestly using <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/white-house-big-pharma-we-have-a-problem/">the PHrMA deal</a> as a smokescreen to whatever her real objection is. When <strong>Jillian Bandes</strong> pointed out this deal with the devil, Hamsher had nothing to say about it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/white-house-big-pharma-we-have-a-problem/">Nobody likes the PHrMA dea</a>l (except pharmaceutical companies), but most supporters of reform have been willing to hold their noses and accept it as the price of getting a good bill. To wave it around at this late date is disingenuous at best (<a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2009/12/jane_hamshers_10_reaons_to_kil.html">as is much of her opposition to the bill</a>). Hamsher was throwing red meat to Fox&#8217;s audience instead of focusing on her <em>real</em> problem with the bill.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what that is for sure, but I suspect it has something to do with this statement, from the <em>Fox &amp; Friends</em> appearance:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;<strong>If you&#8217;ve got insurance right now through your employer that you like,</strong> this bill taxes the benefits, middle class benefits, and actually causes it to be worse, to cut back on benefits, and to be more expensive copays, that&#8217;s how they bend the cost curve is by making sure that you use less services.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>This is all true, and an excellent point, but neither Hamsher nor Doocy bothers to ask the question that <strong>David Shuster</strong> asked in that clip from July: What about the tens of millions of people who have no insurance, good or otherwise?</p>
<p>Jane Hamsher loves to remind people that she survived cancer (three times), even calling it &#8220;offensive&#8221; for someone to argue with her because of it. What she seems to have forgotten is that, for all the trouble she had with her insurance company, <em>she had insurance</em>. She&#8217;s urging people to kill a bill that will cover tens of millions of people who don&#8217;t have insurance now (rather than urging a strong push to improve the bill in conference), while she is living proof that having insurance can be the difference between life and death. Now, <em>that&#8217;s</em> offensive.</p>
<p>I hate when people do this, but since Jane opened the door, I have to say this. My dad dropped dead of a heart attack at age 58, without health insurance. If he had had health insurance, he&#8217;d probably still be alive today. Does that make me right about health care reform? No. This thing should be argued on the merits. I think most people would agree that we need an America in which both Jane and my dad get to survive.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Quigley</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When<strong> Joe Lieberman</strong> dramatically declared that he would <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28788.html">support a GOP filibuster</a> on the healthcare reform bill currently making its rounds in the Senate, he must have known that he'd be subjecting himself to serious criticism from some quarters. Last night, both <strong>Keith Olbermann</strong> and <strong>Rachel Maddow </strong>blasted Lieberman, portraying him as a pawn of the insurance industry and a traitor to his former party.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-39632" title="maddow.lieberman" src="http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/maddow.lieberman.jpg" alt="maddow.lieberman" width="298" height="200" />When<strong> Joe Lieberman</strong> dramatically declared that he would <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28788.html">support a GOP filibuster</a> on the healthcare reform bill currently making its rounds in the Senate, he must have known that he&#8217;d be subjecting himself to serious criticism from some quarters. Not surprisingly, one of those quarters was MSNBC&#8217;s prime time lineup. Last night, both <strong>Keith Olbermann</strong> and <strong>Rachel Maddow </strong>blasted Lieberman, portraying him as a pawn of the insurance industry and a traitor to his former party.<span id="more-39601"></span></p>
<p>First up: Keith Olbermann, who accused Lieberman of &#8220;thwart[ing] history in the making:&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>Two months ago, Lieberman offered different rationales including the public option&#8217;s supposed unpopularity with the public. Except a new NBC News poll today found that 73% of Americans think that people should have the choice of a public option.  In his own state, 68% favor the public option, including 83% of Democrats, 73% of independents — and all those Republicans who already have one.</p>
<p>But his own state has other constituents: bigger people, if you will. Connecticut is insurance-company Ground Zero. Lieberman has gotten more than a million dollars in the last five years from the health insurance and medical sectors — a million that we know of.</p>
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<p>Newsbusters&#8217; <strong>Mark Finkelstein</strong> <a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2009/10/27/olbermann-seems-suggest-lieberman-might-be-take">objected</a> to the &#8220;that we know of&#8221; formulation, saying that it amounted to a suggestion that Lieberman might be &#8220;on the take.&#8221;</p>
<p>But the broader message of Olbermann&#8217;s segment on Lieberman was betrayal. He opened up his interview with guest Ron Wyden, a senator from Oregon, with this point-blank question: &#8220;How many more times can Senator Lieberman get away with spitting in the party &#8212; your party&#8217;s face before the Democrats say &#8216;no more?&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Maddow&#8217;s critique was less bombastic and more intellectual, but she didn&#8217;t pull any punches, either. Opening up with a segment on insurance stocks rebounding shortly before Lieberman&#8217;s announcement yesterday afternoon, she, too, as much as implied that Lieberman was beholden to the health insurance industry in his state.</p>
<p>If Olbermann thought Lieberman was thwarting history in the making, Maddow went after him for making the wrong sort of history: paraphrasing her guest <strong>Jane Hamden</strong> of Firedoglake, she marveled at the fact that &#8220;when one party has enough members to overcome the other party&#8217;s filibuster, a member of the majority has never before crossed party lines to filibuster with the minority.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s Olbermann:</p>
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<p>And here&#8217;s Maddow:</p>
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		<title>Bill Kristol &amp; Liz Cheney on Obama Nobel Prize: &#8220;Farce&#8221; &#8220;Anti-American&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rachel Sklar</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[John McCain said today of President Barack Obama&#8216;s Nobel Peace Prize that, &#8220;As Americans, we&#8217;re proud when our President receives an award of that prestigious category&#8230;Americans are always pleased when the President is recognized by something on this order.&#8221; According to Bill Kristol and Liz Cheney on Fox News Sunday &#8212; not quite. Said Cheney: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Screen-shot-2009-10-11-at-12.51.48-PM.png" alt="Screen shot 2009-10-11 at 12.51.48 PM" title="Screen shot 2009-10-11 at 12.51.48 PM" width="280" height="205" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-33904" /><strong>John McCain</strong> <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/john-mccain-dodges-obama-nobel-bullet-im-sure-the-president-understands-that-he-now-has-even-more-to-live-up-to/">said today</a> of <strong>President Barack Obama</strong>&#8216;s Nobel Peace Prize that, &#8220;As Americans, we&#8217;re proud when our President receives an award of that prestigious category&#8230;Americans are always pleased when the President is recognized by something on this order.&#8221; According to <strong>Bill Kristol</strong> and <strong>Liz Cheney</strong> on Fox News Sunday &mdash; not quite. <span id="more-33898"></span></p>
<p>Said Cheney: &#8220;I think the president himself understands he didn&#8217;t earn this prize&#8230;therefore the notion that he&#8217;d go to Oslo to accept the prize just sort of adds to the farce.&#8221; She noted the wording of the citation and took it to mean that the Nobel committe &#8220;would like to live in a world in which America is not dominant&#8221; and speculated that Obama, in his speeches about global diplomacy, had convinced them that &#8220;President Obama also doesn&#8217;t believe in American dominance.&#8221; Said Cheney: &#8220;I think unfortunately they may be right.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kristol, for his part, joked that he should have gotten the prize because just as Obama had given a few good speeches, he&#8217;d written a few good columns. Er, yes, indeed. &#8220;This is an anti-American committee, they&#8217;ve now given the prize to President Obama &mdash; I think he should have refused it, respectfully, but I think the second-best thing would be to go over and give a pro-American speech on December 10th.&#8221; On the matter of Obama&#8217;s belief in American exceptionalism: &#8220;I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s a believer in it in the way perhaps some previous American presidents have been.&#8221; </p>
<p>Video below:</p>
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<strong>Compare and contrast with John McCain&#8217;s diplomatic, if not effusive, response <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/john-mccain-dodges-obama-nobel-bullet-im-sure-the-president-understands-that-he-now-has-even-more-to-live-up-to/">here</a>. </p>
<p>(Via <a href="http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/9047">FireDogLake</a>.)</p>
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		<title>Growing Pains: The Outsiders On The Inside At Netroots Nation</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kit Kuzma</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This year's Netroots Nation, the annual gathering of of progressive bloggers launched in 2006, was different: The president from the party they fought to elect &#8212; President Barack Obama, a Democrat &#8212; is in power, and they no longer represent the voice of the opposition. 

But that doesn't mean they don't have any. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-14209" title="kkuzma" src="http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/kkuzma-300x300.jpg" alt="kkuzma" width="180" height="180" />&#8220;We were teenagers, and now  we&#8217;re the man.&#8221;</p>
<p>That was how DailyKos founder <strong>Markos  Moulitsas</strong> described the nearly 2000 activists gathered in Pittsburgh  for the 2009 <a href="http://netrootsnation.org/">Netroots Nation</a> convention. Billed on its website as &#8220;the  most concentrated gathering of progressive bloggers to date,&#8221;   this year&#8217;s Netroots Nation is the fourth conference of its kind. It  began in 2006 as the YearlyKos convention, and adopted a new name in  2008 to reflect its expanding membership and influence beyond the pages  of DailyKos. The 2009 conference is the first without a cadre of primary  contenders to invite and the first to deal with reality of being a movement  billed as the political establishment.</p>
<p>The event regularly attracts progressive  power players and up-and-comers alike, with former <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/19/gore-surprises-netroots-n_n_113789.html">Vice President Al  Gore making a surprise visit last year</a>, while 2007 drew eight major  Democratic Presidential candidates for a blogger-moderated debate. This  year brought former President <strong>Bill Clinton</strong>, Governor <strong>Howard Dean</strong> and Senior Advisor to the President <strong>Valerie Jarret</strong>t as featured speakers &#8211; but while the  tradition of high-profile politicos in attendance continues, the focus  of the conference has definitely taken a turn from its election-driven  roots.<span id="more-14188"></span></p>
<p><strong>Adam Bonin</strong>, chairman of the Netroots  Nation board of directors, pinpoints the conference&#8217;s mission as the  biggest change. &#8220;I think the key difference between this year&#8217;s  conference and those in the past is that prior conferences centered  around amassing our power to help win elections,&#8221; said Bonin, who  also regularly contributes to DailyKos&#8217; front page. &#8220;This year,  there was a conscious shift in focus across our agenda &#8212; and certainly  among our attendees &#8212; towards the steps we need to take to make policy  change happen.&#8221;</p>
<p>The slate of panels available certainly  reflects the change &#8211; pundits from the strategy and blogger wings of  the movement appeared to instruct attendees on how best to get out the  message for a progressive agenda, including a two-hour &#8220;Pundit Project&#8221;  media training session hosted by <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/">ThinkProgress</a>.</p>
<p>As aspiring politicos took turns  taping practice interviews, Firedoglake founder <strong>Jane Hamsher</strong> warned  about becoming trapped in media narratives unflattering to liberal activists.  <strong>Nico Pitney</strong> &#8211; particularly well-known for his work on liveblogging the  Iranian elections, and perhaps for a <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/pitney-1-milbank-0-huffpo-1-journalism-0/ ">verbal scuffle with Dana Milbank on CNN&#8217;s  Reliable Sources</a> &#8211; instructed attendees on the importance  of building a niche of expertise. ThinkProgress managing editor <strong>Amanda  Terkel</strong> <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/23/watters-ambush/ ">warned attendees about the rise of ambush  journalism</a>.  (Amanda&#8217;s hints: there&#8217;s no right strategy,  but if you can&#8217;t squeak out an Olbermann-inspired ANDREA MAKRIS! then  be quick with a camera, or just keep your wits about you and let cooler  heads prevail.)</p>
<p>Later in the weekend, New York media  trainer <strong>Joel Silberman</strong> offered some helpful advice as well &#8211; when talking  into a camera, pretend it&#8217;s someone you want to sleep with. Media experts  helped activists learn how to make the most of their fifteen minutes  and notable bloggers helped hammer out the message, giving their take  on the biggest policy battles of the day &#8211; Firedoglake blogger and occasional  MSNBC guest <strong>Marcy Wheeler</strong> (<a href="http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/">emptywheel</a>) gave her take on Wall Street  domination, Pam&#8217;s House Blend founder <strong>Pam Spaulding</strong> talked LGBTQI rights,  and on the technical side DailyKos&#8217; <strong>Greg Dworkin</strong> (<a href="http://demfromct.dailykos.com/">DemfromCT</a>) moderated  a panel featuring <strong>Nate Silver</strong> and <strong>Charlie Cook</strong>, among others, on getting  the most out of polling data.</p>
<p>But while attendees learned how best  to take advantage of their political punch from the best and the brightest  of the blogosphere, some notable speakers faced pressing criticism from  the left. Former President Bill Clinton faced tough questions from blogger <strong> Lane Hudson</strong> on Don&#8217;t Ask Don&#8217;t Tell and the Defense of Marriage Act,  raising the spectre of an Administration moving too slowly on gay rights  for some activists&#8217; tastes. Governor Howard Dean took questions on advancing  progressive goals in the health care debate just days before President  Obama and HHS Secretary<strong> Kathleen Sebelius</strong> stumbled over whether or not  the public option was necessary. And in her conversation with pundit  comedian <strong>Baratunde Thurston</strong>, <strong>Valerie Jarrett</strong> faced occasionally boisterous  criticism of President Obama&#8217;s continuation of some policies of President  Bush.</p>
<p>One attendee shouted a question about  photographs of detainee abuse President Obama has declined to make public,  another yelled to ask why Blackwater (now Xe) was still being paid by  the State Department for overseas work, and a table near the stage hissed  in frustration at her response. The incident took only a few moments  of an hour long talk, but became the focus of a piece by Huffington  Post article assigned the headline &#8220;Valarie [sic] Jarrett Heckled  And Hissed At Netroots Nation.&#8221;</p>
<p>The headline raises an interesting  issue: when, and how, does a scrappy, rabble-rousing political underdog  turn into a gathering of heckling critics?  Moderator Baratunde  Thurston of Jack and Jill Politics <a href="http://baratunde.posterous.com/this-huffingtonpost-headline-is-wildly-sensat">took issue</a> with the headline assigned  to the piece, though he called Sam Stein&#8217;s writing a &#8220;fair representation  of what happened.&#8221; Beyond the misspelling of Jarrett&#8217;s first name,  Thurston said &#8220;the headline implies that the only thing that happened  was that Jarrett faced tremendous negative responses to being there.&#8221;</p>
<p>The headline was later changed to  the more accurate &#8220;<a href="http://baratunde.posterous.com/this-huffingtonpost-headline-is-wildly-sensat">Valarie [sic] Jarrett Heckled By Some At Netroots  Nation</a>,&#8221; but the question remains &#8211; how critical is too critical  of a Democratic President, especially for a conference full of Democratic  activists?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/growing-pains-the-outsiders-on-the-inside-at-netroots-nations/2/">&gt;&gt;&gt;Next: &#8220;From day one, our movement has been built on the  notion that we&#8217;re outside the gates, and that we have to force our way  in.&#8221;</a></p>
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