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		<title>Univisión&#8217;s Jorge Ramos To Gingrich: How Did Your Affair Differ From Clinton&#8217;s?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 01:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Frances Martel</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A sign of the times? The most comprehensive, mature, and convincing conversation <strong>Newt Gingrich</strong> has had with the media so far about his dubious personal history comes to us from Univisión, where their top journalist,<strong> Jorge Ramos</strong>, sat down for an extensive interview with the candidate released today. Ramos went where few journalists have gone before with Gingrich-- a comparison of his second known affair with President Clinton's-- and got a fair and long answer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/univisions-jorge-ramos-to-gingrich-how-was-your-affair-different-from-clintons/attachment/picture-2-1075/" rel="attachment wp-att-411163"><img src="http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Picture-228.png" alt="" title="Picture 2" width="320" height="235" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-411163" /></a>A sign of the times? The most comprehensive, mature, and convincing conversation <strong>Newt Gingrich</strong> has had with the media so far about his dubious personal history comes to us from Univisión, where their top journalist,<strong> Jorge Ramos</strong>, sat down for an extensive interview with the candidate released today. Ramos went where few journalists have gone before with Gingrich&#8211; a comparison of his second known affair with President Clinton&#8217;s&#8211; and got a fair and long answer.<span id="more-411132"></span></p>
<p><strong><a class="related-post" href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rep-ron-paul-tells-univision-he-might-oppose-14th-amendment-birthright-citizenship/">RELATED: Rep. Ron Paul Tells Univisión He Might Oppose 14th Amendment Birthright Citizenship</a></strong></p>
<p>&#8220;I take full responsibility for these questions,&#8221; Ramos began, so as to distance himself from his channel before challenging Gingrich on personal questions. &#8220;When you were Speaker of the House, you criticized President Clinton for having an extramarital affair.&#8221; &#8220;No,&#8221; replied Gingrich, &#8220;I criticized him for lying under oath in front of a federal judge, for committing perjury, which is a felony for which normal people go to jail.&#8221; Ramos continued his question, however, stating that Gingrich was doing the same thing. &#8220;I was not doing the same thing&#8211; you didn&#8217;t hear my answer.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Many people think that is hypocritical.&#8221; Gingrich responded that that was true because &#8220;they listen to your question, but they don&#8217;t listen to the facts.&#8221; Gingrich did not go on to attack Ramos, however, in the way one would expect him to attack, say, <strong><a href="http://www.mediaite.com/power-grid/person/?q=John+King">John King</a></strong>. Instead, he fleshed out his answer. &#8220;Look, I&#8217;ve been through two divorces, I&#8217;ve been deposed both times, under oath. I&#8217;m not a lawyer, and I know it&#8217;s a felony. Clinton is a lawyer, from Yale Law School, and he knew it was a felony.&#8221; When Ramos repeated that that wasn&#8217;t exactly assuaging anyone&#8217;s concerns about his character, Gingrich replied with vintage Gingrich: &#8220;somewhere here there is a synapse missing. I didn&#8217;t do the same thing; I never lied under oath.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ramos then left that topic and went into even murkier waters, but asked the question in a way that left him completely protected from a Gingrich attack, asking why he blamed the media for exposing the &#8220;open marriage&#8221; question, and whether he believed it to be a legitimate concern. Gingrich attacked ABC for the story, and Ramos continued, &#8220;Isn&#8217;t that a fair question about your character? That&#8217;s the kind of question that we have to ask.&#8221; Gingrich agreed. &#8220;Have I blamed you for asking? No.&#8221; He went on to explain, again, that the open marriage claim was &#8220;a lie&#8221; and then turned to the John King incident: &#8220;The CNN commentator decided to make it the first question in a national presidential debate, and I thought to myself&#8211; &#8216;we have unemployment, we have immigration, we have Afghanistan&#8230; and this guy thinks that this kind of trash should be the first question in a presidential debate?&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>The exchange is fascinating for two reasons&#8211; the first being that it is the first time that Gingrich addresses the Clinton comparison head-on during this election cycle, and does it without sniping at the interviewer. The second is the latter in general. Ramos figured out what many in the media have yet to about Gingrich: if you present yourself as a separate entity from &#8220;the media&#8221; (much easier for Ramos to do as a Univisión correspondent than those in English-language cable news positions, to be fair), Gingrich will take the bait and attack the strawman, rather than treating you, the interviewer, as a member of the &#8220;other&#8221; group of media. Not only does it give Ramos the ability to come off looking like the most talented matador getting in the ring with Gingrich so far, waving the red flag of infidelity unscathed, but it gives Gingrich the opportunity to prove that he can have a civil conversation with a journalist without trying to make them look foolish&#8211; a win-win for both parties. Ramos also sat down with the other Republican candidates for similar interviews, so we can expect more of these as the week rolls on.</p>
<p>The segment via Univisión below:<br />
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		<title>Rep. Ron Paul Tells Univisión He Might Oppose 14th Amendment Birthright Citizenship</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 23:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Frances Martel</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rep. <strong>Ron Paul</strong> is a strict constitutionalist, but when it comes to one provision of the 14th Amendment, he doesn't think it is currently being properly interpreted. Discussing immigration during an interview with <strong>Jorge Ramos</strong> on Univisión's Sunday morning politics show <em>Al Punto</em>, Rep. Ron Paul hesitated on whether he believed birthright citizenship should be a given, noting that he wasn't sure if the 14th Amendment applied to children of illegal immigrants.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rep-ron-paul-tells-univision-he-might-oppose-14th-amendment-birthright-citizenship/attachment/picture-4-571/" rel="attachment wp-att-352710"><img src="http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Picture-41.png" alt="" title="Picture 4" width="320" height="223" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-352710" /></a>Rep. <strong>Ron Paul</strong> is a strict constitutionalist, but when it comes to one provision of the 14th Amendment, he doesn&#8217;t think it is currently being properly interpreted. Discussing immigration during an interview with <strong>Jorge Ramos</strong> on Univisión&#8217;s Sunday morning politics show <em>Al Punto</em>, Rep. Ron Paul hesitated on whether he believed birthright citizenship should be a given, noting that he wasn&#8217;t sure if the 14th Amendment applied to children of illegal immigrants.<span id="more-352708"></span></p>
<p>The interview served as an introduction to Latino viewers to Rep. Paul and consisted mostly of basic questions on his views, mostly on immigration and foreign policy. The first half of the interview discussed immigration exclusively, and Ramos opened with a general question on Rep. Paul&#8217;s views. &#8220;Somebody who has been here&#8230; it&#8217;s their country, I think there should be a program to bring them into the fold,&#8221; Rep. Paul noted, supporting a program to help illegal immigrants reach an acceptable migration status. That said, he made the point that he was not in favor of amnesty or helping anyone cut in line. Furthermore, Rep. Paul made the point that he wasn&#8217;t entirely comfortable with Fourteenth Amendment birthright citizenship. &#8220;I think the mere fact of stepping across the border and having a child&#8230; no, I don&#8217;t think that should be automatic,&#8221; he noted. He did add that, as a doctor, he had seen a great number of cases where mothers crossed the border specifically to assure their child American citizenship.</p>
<p><strong><a class="related-post" href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rep-ron-paul-lists-ideal-federal-powers-at-gop-forum-not-a-heck-of-a-lot/">RELATED: Rep. Ron Paul Lists Ideal Federal Powers At GOP Forum: ‘Not A Heck Of A Lot’</a></strong></p>
<p>Ramos immediately asked whether this meant that Rep. Paul &#8220;wanted to change the Constitution,&#8221; a valid question, but one that for anyone following the Rep. Paul campaign for the past few years will find is a rare doubt about the candidate&#8211; in fact, adherence to the Constitution is the one most pervasive talking point of both the 2008 and 2012 Paul campaigns. &#8220;Depends on how you interpret the Constitution,&#8221; Rep. Paul retorted, suggesting that the Fourteenth Amendment applied only to those &#8220;under the jurisdiction&#8211; if you&#8217;re illegal, you might not be considered under the jurisdiction of the United States government.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ramos then wonders whether Rep. Paul is afraid his stance on immigration will alienate Latino voters, arguing that Latinos by and large support amnesty measures (a claim that by and large alienates the public opinion of Caribbean Latinos), to which Rep. Paul responds that he finds it &#8220;unnecessary&#8221; to modify his messages to reach an ethnic group. He also shoots down the idea of heightening gun control restrictions to stop illegal immigrant related violence, and instead hinted at&#8211; without fleshing out&#8211; his drug policies. </p>
<p><strong><a class="related-post" href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rick-santorum-tells-rep-ron-paul-to-stop-parroting-osama-bin-laden-in-cnn-debate/">RELATED: Rick Santorum Tells Rep. Ron Paul To Stop ‘Parroting Osama Bin Laden’ At CNN Debate</a></strong></p>
<p>The position may shock a few of Rep. Paul&#8217;s libertarian supporters who look upon open borders with a bit more warmth, particularly since his positions on drugs and foreign military intervention have gotten so much more exposure. It is also a particularly bizarre choice on Rep. Paul&#8217;s part to expose his concern about birthright citizenship, which doesn&#8217;t appear on his <a href="http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/immigration/" target="_blank">official immigration platform</a>, to the one audience that would be most likely to consider him as a candidate based on his positions on immigration. </p>
<p>The segment via Univisión below:<br />
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		<title>Obama To Reporter: &#8216;I&#8217;m The President Of The United States. You Think I&#8217;ve Got To Borrow Somebody&#8217;s Computer?&#8217;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 21:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark Joyella</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a town hall meeting put on by the Spanish language network Univision, anchor <strong>Jorge Ramos</strong> asked the president if he had an iPad (he does) and, in a somewhat regrettable follow-up, if, well, the president has his own computer--really his, not like, a shared computer or something. The question put President Obama into standup comic mode, asking "I mean, Jorge, I'm the president of the United States," Obama said to the laughter of the crowd at an education town hall broadcast by Univision. "You think I've got to go borrow somebody's computer? ... 'Hey, man, can I borrow your computer? ... How about you? You've got one?'"]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/obama-to-reporter-im-the-president-of-the-united-states-you-think-ive-got-to-borrow-somebodys-computer/attachment/picture-18-32/" rel="attachment wp-att-265036"><img src="http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Picture-1810-300x230.png" alt="" title="Picture 18" width="300" height="245" class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-265036" /></a>In a town hall meeting put on by the Spanish language network Univision, anchor <strong>Jorge Ramos</strong> asked the president if he had an iPad (he does) and, in a somewhat regrettable follow-up, if, well, the president has his own computer&#8211;really his, not like, a shared computer or something. The question put President Obama into standup comic mode, asking &#8220;I mean, Jorge, I&#8217;m the president of the United States,&#8221; Obama said to the laughter of the crowd at an education town hall broadcast by Univision. &#8220;You think I&#8217;ve got to go borrow somebody&#8217;s computer? &#8230; &#8216;Hey, man, can I borrow your computer? &#8230; How about you? You&#8217;ve got one?&#8217;&#8221;<br />
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The president, whose poll numbers are down amid voters&#8217; concerns over the military action in Libya, hasn&#8217;t really been seen this relaxed and laughing in a while.</p>
<p>Watch it here, from Univision:</p>
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		<title>Spanish-Language Media Types Make Guest List, Lead To WH Press Corps Sniping</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 01:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Triplett</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As one would expect for a state dinner involving Mexican President <strong>Felipe Calderon</strong>, the <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/expected-attendees-joining-reception-following-state-dinner">White House guest list</a> will look familiar to those who regularly get their news from Spanish-language media or who follow the schedule of the world's richest man, <em>New York Times</em> investor <strong>Carlos Slim</strong>.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.jorgeramos.com/images/jorge_ima_01.jpg" title="Ramos Salinas" class="alignleft" height="212" width="325" />As one would expect for a state dinner involving Mexican President <strong>Felipe Calderon</strong>, the <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/expected-attendees-joining-reception-following-state-dinner">White House guest list</a> will look familiar to those who regularly get their news from Spanish-language media or who follow the schedule of the world&#8217;s richest man, <em>New York Times</em> investor <strong>Carlos Slim</strong>.</p>
<p>The guest list got more attention after sniping among the White House press corps that Univision got the only question at a press conference  with Obama and Calderon.  <em>The Hill&#8217;</em>s <strong>Sam Youngman</strong><a href="http://twitter.com/samyoungman/status/14304778431"> tweeted</a> and<em> Politico&#8217;s</em><strong> <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/power-grid/person/?q=Patrick+Gavin">Patrick Gavin</a></strong> <a href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/onmedia/0510/Obama_shuns_US_reporters_in_Calderon_presser.html?showall">whined </a>that U.S. press were shut out of the questions.  White House Press Secretary <strong>Robert Gibbs</strong> <a href="http://twitter.com/PressSec/status/14319070700">was more than happy to point out</a>, via a tweet, that Univision was actually an American network.</p>
<p>The guest list includes Univision anchors <strong>María Elena Salinas</strong> and<strong> Jorge Ramos</strong>, as well as their rival on Telemundo, <strong>José Díaz-Balart. </strong>Also on the guest list is <strong>Monica Lozano</strong>, publisher of Los Angeles daily newspaper <em>La Opinion</em> and Victor Pérez of Chicago&#8217;s <em>Hoy</em>. Former network anchor and reporter<strong> Giselle Fernandez </strong>also made the cut<strong>.</strong></p>
<p>While the regular networks were shut out of the event&#8211;save ABC&#8217;s <strong>Bianna Golodryga</strong> who is the fiancee of Office of Management and Budget Director <strong>Peter Orszag</strong>&#8211;there are other television celebrities including <strong>Whoopi Goldberg</strong>, <strong>Eva Longoria-Parker</strong> and <strong>George Lopez. Oprah&#8217;s</strong> BFF<strong> Gayle King </strong>is attending as the guest of Newark, N.J., mayor<strong> Cory Booker. </strong></p>
<p>After the first state dinner, which <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/crashergate-haunts-tonights-state-dinner/">became famous for being crashed</a> by reality-show wannabes <strong>Tareq and Michaele Salahi</strong>, security has been tight for the event and the guest list didn&#8217;t become public until late in the day. The dinner is being planned and prepared by celebrity chef and friend-of-the-Obamas <strong>Rick Bayless</strong>, who <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/chef-rick-bayless-claims-lynn-sweet-made-up-story-about-white-house-tweets/">started the day feuding</a> with <em>Chicago Sun-Times</em> writer<strong> Lynn Sweet</strong>, who said Bayless was tweeting against protocol.</p>
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		<title>Obama on Univisión: Lost in Translation</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jose Simian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So what did President Obama <a href="http://www.univision.com/content/content.jhtml;jsessionid=JH3PSF3SQJSRUCWIAA4SFFIKZAADWIWC?cid=2094571">say to Univisión</a>? It was hard to tell.</p> <p>As I began to watch the interview he gave to Jorge Ramos, I found myself moving closer and closer to the TV, as if I were deciphering a strange language. The premier Spanish network had made the awful choice of dubbing instead of subtitling the interview.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Obama-Univision.jpg" alt="Obama Univision" title="Obama Univision" width="280" height="201" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-26340" />So what did President Obama <a href="http://www.univision.com/content/content.jhtml;jsessionid=JH3PSF3SQJSRUCWIAA4SFFIKZAADWIWC?cid=2094571">say to Univisión</a>? It was hard to tell.</p>
<p>As I began to watch the interview he gave to Jorge Ramos, I found myself moving closer and closer to the TV, as if I were deciphering a strange language. The premier Spanish network had made the awful choice of dubbing instead of subtitling the interview.<span id="more-26328"></span></p>
<p>It took me back to my childhood, watching Hollywood films on Chilean TV on endless school afternoons—suffering because cowboys, pirates, lawyers and superheroes shared the same toothpaste-commercial voices. Later on, my brother and I turned this nonsense into a game: who could name more films or series in which this same overdubbing artist had taken over a famous actor.</p>
<p>But the miseries of being born on the wrong side of English stop being funny when you are trying to understand what the President is saying on relevant matters, and another voice paired with a lousy sound mix make it impossible. (The internet version sounds much better.)</p>
<p>Yet, the problem is not only that sound mixing may be tricky and the dubbing artist may remind you of the Latin American translation of Homer Simpson (which <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ER84JDZffg&amp;feature=related">it did</a>). Univisión’s choice was regrettable because what makes dubbing movies simply wrong (beautifully explained by Dolores Prida in the <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/latino/2008/08/06/2008-08-06_i_lost_it_at_the_movies.html"><em>Daily News</em></a>) applies to politics, too: much of what is being said resides in accents, pauses and inflections.</p>
<p>So yesterday I didn’t really watch President Obama talk to the millions of Hispanics who regularly tune into Univisión—a historic occasion, indeed.</p>
<p>It was something else. And I hated it.</p>
<p>And this is not to say that the interview wasn’t good. Jorge Ramos is a solid interviewer and displayed his skills by asking Obama three times if he had the votes to approve health care reform, pressing him to clarify his stance on health benefits for illegal immigrants; reminding him of the economic cost of forcing immigrants to use emergency rooms; questioning his switch from talking about “undocumented immigrants” to “illegal immigrants;” and reminding him of his promise of immigration reform during his first year in government.</p>
<p>Particularly on the last two topics, Ramos dealt significant blows to Obama: his change of words to refer to illegal immigrants is a sensitive topic among many Hispanics, and his answer (that he was merely replying to the attacks from the right in their own terms) was not convincing; on the latter, it is by now obvious that his promise of immigration reform in 2009 will not be fulfilled.</p>
<p>In other words, Ramos made the President tumble in the eyes of Hispanics.</p>
<p>But it was all lost in translation, and by that point, most of Univisión’s audience (who can most likely read subtitles and understand English at the same time) may have switched to another outlet—one in which they could hear their President with their own ears.</p>
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