Unbelievable.

When is Mediaite going to feature a story of non-urban citizens acting like animals?

how about a 3rd charge, racial ass whoopin, or does that only apply if whitey beatup darkie ?

She’s not a 26yr old lady, she is a 26yr old thug! This being a black person did not come as a big surprise to me either. It may sound racist, but, the mindset of some of these folks is just ghetto. Reinforces the stereotype of the “violent” black. It’s all about ego (not using one’s brain) and not wanting to play by the same rules everyone else follows. Now you get to spend time in PRISON because you couldn’t be bothered to fetch your receipt; Something that would have taken 2 damn minutes at most. Does that make ANY sense to any rational human being? Like Chris Rock says in his comedy, are you going to spend the next 20yrs in prison because some dude smudged your puma in a club? LET IT GO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUA-2UMKx5s

What the sad commentary is here folks is that a 70 year old needs to still be working at Wal-Mart on Christmas Eve. Yea let’s take their social security and medicare away!

This happened in a small town.

This being a black person did not come as a big surprise to me either. It may sound racist,…… You are correct sir.

Actually this happened in Batavia, NY.

Perhaps the police are just slacking, like when America’s Favorite Racist Sheriff out in AZ failed to investigate rapes in Hispanic communities.

Oh, sorry!

I assume that Batavia, NY is still small enough to qualify as non-urban-people-behaving-badly equal time.

Put the uncivilized beast, Jacquetta Simmons away for about thirty years – somewhere where she can’t reproduce and spawn more Democratic Welfare Baby-Breeders like herself.

They’re taking it away to fund the bastard-broods of Democratic Welfare Whores, like, I’m guessing by the statistics, Jacquetta Simmons!

” Like Chris Rock says…”

Turn off the tv and go experience the world beyond the one you seclude yourself in. Stop letting Chris Rock and Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas be your guides to black America. What is a ghetto mindset by the way? Do you have to be from the “ghetto” to have this mindset? Did the white guy in the trailer park that killed and dismembered that young girl the other day have a ghetto mindset? Perhaps he had a “trailer park” mindset? You probably won’t see that story on Mediaite by the way, which kind of plays to the earlier point of ChuckSacremento. Did the two white women, one pregnant, reinforce any stereotypes about whites? I don’t know Ver, if you take that incident and Casey Anthony you could make a case that stereotypes are being reinforced. That is if you are foolish enough to take those examples and apply them in a racist rant against white people.

If your bigotry weren’t bad enough you totally blow it on what she did wrong. 

“It’s all about ego (not using one’s brain) and not wanting to play by
the same rules everyone else follows. Now you get to spend time in
PRISON because you couldn’t be bothered to fetch your receipt; Something
that would have taken 2 damn minutes at most.”

Are you serious? She’s not going to jail because she didn’t show a receipt. She’s going to jail because she punched an OLD lady. If the lady were her age she might have a chance to beat the case in court, seeing as how the lady stepped out to approach her, depending on if she were approached in a threatening manner which could constitute assault. Put me in her situation and an in shape male in the role of the cashier, and I might square up too if approached after, rightfully, refusing to show a receipt on items I legally own. Then I’d think better of it and take the short term ass kicking and let Walmart deal with a lawsuit for gross violation of my rights. That’s why that lady is an idiot. 1) For going all out on a senior she could have just ignored and 2) What are they going to do if you don’t want to show a receipt for the items you paid for? If they want to go beyond the bounds and try to physically detain you, let your lawyer deal with them afterwards.

Wow. You seem to be much more informed on this story than even the reporters. You not only managed to find out that she is a Democrat, but also a “Welfare Baby-Breeder.” You even capitalized it to let us know just how important an issue it is to you. I must say I am surprised, considering that if anything favorable came out of this story for her it is that she pays for her property.

That Walmart greeter sho acted stupidly. Time for a beer summit wit Presidint Obama!

He was betting the odds.

That greeter should be put in her own internment camp which she is forced to build for looking at black people and even talking to them. They are protected, like spotted owls.

James, while you’re posting on Mediaite scary black people are having interracial sex with your ol’ lady and young uns! Better do something quick!

I don’t understand why MY comment was removed. I was making an observation, one that I can corroborate with factual evidence. Is it really that politically incorrect to report the high criminal element within today’s AA community? Come on Mediaite! This is a topic that can be seriously discussed!

Racists are alive and well in the USA. A lot of blanket statements here……….

”
Turn off the tv and go experience the world beyond the one you seclude yourself in. Stop letting Chris Rock and Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas be your guides to black America. What is a ghetto mindset by the way? Do you have to be from the “ghetto” to have this mindset? Did the white guy in the trailer park that killed and dismembered that young girl the other day have a ghetto mindset? Perhaps he had a “trailer park” mindset? You probably won’t see that story on Mediaite by the way, which kind of plays to the earlier point of ChuckSacremento. Did the two white women, one pregnant, reinforce any stereotypes about whites? I don’t know Ver, if you take that incident and Casey Anthony you could make a case that stereotypes are being reinforced. That is if you are foolish enough to take those examples and apply them in a racist rant against white people. ” 

I AM NOT SHOUTING. JUST TYPING IN CAPS SO THAT MY POSTS IN BETWEEN YOURS CAN BE EASILY DISCERNED. I USED THE CHRIS ROCK AS A METAPHOR TO SHOW WHAT IS EMBLEMATIC OF PEOPLE OVER-REACTING TO SOMETHING(S) THAT IS/ARE REALLY MUNDANE. I REALLY DIDN’T THINK PEOPLE WOULD GET BUTT HURT WITH ME POINTING OUT WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS THINKING. 

“Are you serious? She’s not going to jail because she didn’t show a receipt. She’s going to jail because she punched an OLD lady. If the lady were her age she might have a chance to beat the case in court, seeing as how the lady stepped out to approach her, depending on if she were approached in a threatening manner which could constitute assault. ”

WHAT A BUNCH OF HORSE MANURE. THIS IS SOPHISTRY. YES, THE STUPID B1TCH IS GOING TO PRISON BECAUSE SHE DID NOT FEEL LIKE SHE HAD TO SHOW A UNIFORMED WALMART EMPLOYEE HER RECEIPT! STOP SPINNING. SHE PUNCHED THIS OLD LADY BECAUSE SHE FELT SHE DIDN’T HAVE TO GO ALONG WITH THE REQUEST PRESENTED BEFORE HER. IT IS DISINGENUOUS, LAUGHABLE AND ABSOLUTELY ASININE TO POSTULATE OR EVEN THEORIZE THAT THIS FRAIL SEPTUAGENARIAN WOULD HAVE POSED AS A PHYSICAL THREAT TOWARDS THIS THUG! MAYBE YOU DO NOT REALLY KNOW WHAT AN ‘ASSAULT’ IS. NO SANE JURY WOULD HAVE ACQUITTED HER FOR WHAT SHE DID. IT WAS AN UNPROVOKED ATTACK ON A SENIOR CITIZEN. 

“Put me in her situation and an in shape male in the role of the cashier, and I might square up too if approached after, rightfully, refusing to show a receipt on items I legally own.”

NONSENSE. IF YOU LEGALLY OWN THE ITEMS — PROVE IT! THAT IS WHAT RATIONAL, LEVEL HEADED HUMAN BEINGS DO. YOU DO NOT GO PUNCHING PEOPLE. FURTHERMORE, THESE “CHECKS” ARE CUSTOMARY. WALMART DIDN’T START DOING THEM LAST WEEK. BY SHOPPING AT THEIR STORE, YOU AGREE, BY DEFAULT, TO THEIR SHOPPING GUIDELINES. 

SOME OF YOU GUYS MAY CALL IT A RACIST RANT, I DO NOT CARE. THE FUNNY THING ABOUT ALL OF THIS IS, I AM BLACK MYSELF. ACTIONS LIKE THOSE BY THIS THUG ARE USED TO JUDGE ME. SO, YES, IT ABSOLUTELY PISSES ME OFF WHEN I SEE SUCH BEHAVIOR FROM “MY PEOPLE.”  YOU DO NOT HAVE TO LIKE WHAT I SAY (& SCREW YOU MEDIATE FOR CENSORING ME) BUT, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT CRIME STATISTICS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PROBLEM OF CRIMINALITY AMONG AFRICAN AMERICANS. IT IS EMBARASSING, AND I SAY THIS AS A BLACK MAN. SO, STOP TOSSING THE RACE CARD TOWARDS ME.  YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT A GHETTO MINDSET IS? LACK OF CIVILITY, BOORISHNESS, LOUDNESS,  EMBRACING AND CONDONING IDIOTIC IDEALS SUCH AS “NOT SNITCHING” & GANG LIFE WHICH BASICALLY INCREASES VICTIMHOOD OF BLACKS BY OTHER BLACKS. IT IS A DAMN SHAME.

You do realize that if a mother has any more children after they are on Welfare they get absolutely no extra money. No matter if they have 10 children after that first one. They only get money for that first one.

Can we send you there too. So you might become informed. Please extricate your head out of your arse.

To make sure that nobody reads your post….Type in all Caps.

I didn’t think this story could make me any sadder, and then I read the comments.

As I said before, she is going to jail because she punched out an old lady. Do not debate me on this. Why do people try to come on here and debate the most petty things? So what is she being charged with? I’ll bet it’s not failure to “show a uniformed Walmart employee her receipt.” You’re not really that foolish, are you? If a uniformed Walmart employee wanted to subject customers to pat downs would you be for that too? There are two stories here. One is the assault on an old lady. The other is Walmart, and other stores, overstepping their bounds with these receipt checks. Walmart has no authority to detain me and analyze my receipt. These stores insure their product and have surveillance systems but still want to have you check your bags, hire people to follow you around, stick numerous security devices in the product which they frequently fail to deactivate, and subject you to detainment and searches which they have no authority to perform. Obviously her reaction went way beyond the bounds, but let’s not pretend these aren’t issues a lot of consumers have with these places. I’ve had a coat that was given to me as a gift. The damn thing kept beeping in all the stores I went into because the “uniformed employee” failed to detach the security device. There have been many times where I’ve bought numerous dvd’s/blu-ray’s just to go in the next store, set off the alarm, and have to sit there and wait for them all to be deactivated a second time. Don’t try to turn this into me condoning attacking an old lady, as I clearly denounced that. If your argument were strong you wouldn’t have to resort to distorting mine. It’s the same principle as a man should not strike a lady. Rarely is a woman going to present the type of threat to a man that he should have to defend himself in such a manner. It’s the same situation with this old lady. The customer was absolutely in the right up until the moment she struck an old lady. She should have walked away and had a laugh about the audacity of Walmart and their employees actually trying to physically detain her for not showing a receipt THEY already provided for items she PAID for.

As far as your color, I stand by my previous comments. If you truly are black it is a damn shame, and further evidence of just how deep anti-black racism runs in this country. If you put on a hood and changed your name to Clayton Bigsby you would fit right in at a Klan rally. I can understand how you might be frustrated that you can have countless blacks go to Walmart and shop without beating up employees, only to have a few bad apples come along and be held up as the stereotype. You should be mad at the lady for providing that opening to the racists, but above all you should be mad at the racists who constantly look for examples of black misbehavior to denigrate the race as a whole. Instead you jump right in with the racists! Did you come on to Mediaite and make a post the last time you were in a Walmart and black people shopped and left peacefully? Did you make a post about how upstanding blacks are the last time you saw or heard of one assisting a senior in need? Of course you didn’t. You waited until this one incident to go “black people.” You fell into the trap. Look around you. As I pointed out, and you ignored, white people aren’t rushing to associate the acts of people and institutions like those of Jerry Sandusky/Penn State, The FLDS, Catholic Church, et al. with their race. Stop trying to score points at the expense of your own people.

Mediaite was absolutely right to delete your post. I’ve been down on this place lately because they will delete a comment if someone uses a racial epithet, like the “N” word, but they usually will allow the type of racist nonsense you posted if it doesn’t involve a direct slur. I’m glad to see they took the initiative on that. Whites don’t have to put up with these constant racist assaults in the comments section every time a story of a white person misbehaving is posted, and neither should anyone else. To whoever deleted that post, kudos.   

You start your post off acknowledging how it is going to sound racist, then claim you don’t understand why it was deleted. They were right to delete your post. Those types of comments have been plaguing the comments section for long enough.

Odds that you’re a racist: 100%

It’s like this every time if the story is about a minority. What’s funny is that these same people will return during a story about affirmative action, or other programs they see as benefiting minorities, to tell us how we don’t need them because minorities won’t be discriminated against in this post racial society.

I acknowledged the perception, but, that was not the INTENT. 

“As I said before, she is going to jail because she punched out an old lady. Do not debate me on this. Why do people try to come on here and debate the most petty things? So what is she being charged with? I’ll bet it’s not failure to “show a uniformed Walmart employee her receipt.” You’re not really that foolish, are you?”

It is YOU who is being idiotic by looking at two related occurrences in two separate vacuums. The two occurrences ARE related, ass! There is a causal relationship.
 Let A = The demand to show the receipt, B = Thug declining & punching senior and C = Thug being arrested.
A -> B = C. 
You are trying to argue that A has nothing to do with the result C which is idiotic. B was a reaction to A. (B didn’t happen out of thin air) So, logically, the absence of A or B would not have led to the result C. I argue, and say reaction B was irrational, avoidable, and any intelligent reasonable person would not have done reacted in such a manner. You, foolishly try to justify it’s occurrence and pin the blame on the employee.

“If a uniformed Walmart employee wanted to subject customers to pat downs would you be for that too?”

This is a strawman. The THUG was not asked for a pat down! what kind of useless hyperbole is this? She was asked to show a receipt. There is no moral equivalence. One demand is reasonable, the other is not!

“There are two stories here. One is the assault on an old lady. The other is Walmart, and other stores, overstepping their bounds with these receipt checks. ”

No, there is not! The only story here is about a criminal. Walmart and other stores have the RIGHT to dictate in-store shopping policy guidelines. if you don’t like it, you can either go to another store or shop online. It is pathetic to even remotely suggest that the Walmart employee who was doing her JOB was at fault. maybe you should join us here in the real world.

“Walmart has no authority to detain me and analyze my receipt. These stores insure their product and have surveillance systems but still want to have you check your bags, hire people to follow you around, stick numerous security devices in the product which they frequently fail to deactivate, and subject you to detainment and searches which they have no authority to perform.”

You are on THEIR property. They have EVERY right to do so if they suspect you are pilfering their merchandise. Profiling will always take place. Business lose billions of dollars every year to shoplifters. These actions are not unreasonable. They are a necessity.  

“Obviously her reaction went way beyond the bounds, but let’s not pretend these aren’t issues a lot of consumers have with these places. ”

So why are you excusing her criminal behavior? You are the customer. You have the choice to go into that store and abide with their policies or not! Use your purchasing power (amongst other avenues) to express your disdain for certain practices if they detest you so much. 

“I’ve had a coat that was given to me as a gift. The damn thing kept beeping in all the stores I went into because the “uniformed employee” failed to detach the security device.”

If it’s a frequent hassle, why do you keep going to those stores with that same coat? THINK. Normal people adapt, and try to avoid confrontation. Sigh.

“here have been many times where I’ve bought numerous dvd’s/blu-ray’s just to go in the next store, set off the alarm, and have to sit there and wait for them all to be deactivated a second time. Don’t try to turn this into me condoning attacking an old lady, as I clearly denounced that” 

That is exactly what you were doing by asserting that the reaction by the thug may have been warranted. I have your quote right here in parentheses. 

[[ "..the lady were her age she might have a chance to beat the case in court, seeing as how the lady stepped out to approach her, depending on if she were approached in a threatening manner which could constitute assault..."]]

Stop backpedalling now. 

“As far as your color, I stand by my previous comments. If you truly are black it is a damn shame, and further evidence of just how deep anti-black racism runs in this country. If you put on a hood and changed your name to Clayton Bigsby you would fit right in at a Klan rally. ”

Spoken like a truly ignorant person. I don’t excuse bad behavior (like you seem to do do) because of the color of the skin of the perpetrator. Yes, I am black and honestly, your sophomoric post above reinforces the stupidity that pervades the black community. I have no problem being harsh towards other blacks, your ad hominem attacks notwithstanding. I call it as I see it. 

“You should be mad at the lady for providing that opening to the racists, but above all you should be mad at the racists who constantly look for examples of black misbehavior to denigrate the race as a whole. Instead you jump right in with the racists! ”

You are a joke. So you want me to put my race above everything else? Did you never ever think that if people in the black community were more self critical on current social mores, that, that by itself would force positive change within our communities? But what happens when prominent blacks like Bill Cosby do so? They are castigated and vilified as race traitorous “Uncle Toms.” Remember when Jesse Jackson said he was going to cut Obama’s nuts off, just because Obama had the gall and audacity to be critical about some of the failings of African Americans? JJ is supposed to be a LEADER, yet, his race-centric agenda & myopia clouds his judgment in what should be a straight forward undertaking. I refuse to do that crap. My brother is in pharmacy school right now. He will be a pharmacist in about a year’s time, but yet, some racist redneck prick’s first impression on seeing him would be to assume he’s some urban thug. Who the F do you think perpetuate these ugly stereotypes of us? It’s morons like this Simmons B1TCH you want me to excuse for her vile actions. Go screw yourself, sincerely. I am not addressing the rest of your blatherskite.

Let me start off by reiterating a point I’m tired of having to make to internet toughs. The way I address people here is the same way I would face to face. That should be everyone’s policy. Let’s not go getting silly behind our keyboards.

“It is YOU who is being idiotic by looking at two related occurrences in
two separate vacuums. The two occurrences ARE related, ass! There is a
causal relationship.
 Let A = The demand to show the receipt, B = Thug declining & punching senior and C = Thug being arrested.
A -> B = C. ”

Sigh. Here is where Ver fails. “B” is two separate actions you have joined at the hip. Refusing to show a receipt is not what leads to “C”. Many people have refused to show a receipt. It is the other half of “B” which lead to “C.” Ver frames the argument in a dishonest manner. For example, if comments like Ver’s were made in public, many people would rightfully take offense, as demonstrated by his deleted comment. They would be well within their right to call Ver out on it. If someone punched Ver in the face for it, then they would be crossing a legal line which would result in their arrest. For Ver to say this woman was arrested because she didn’t want to show her receipt is as ridiculous as asserting that, in the previous scenario, the person was arrested because they had the nerve to take offense to what he said. In attempting to associate a specific attitude to black shoppers, that they are too uppity to show a receipt like everyone else, Ver bypasses the criminal conduct which resulted in the arrest to criticize the reaction she was legally within her rights to have as the reason for her arrest.

“This is a strawman. The THUG was not asked for a pat down! What kind of
useless hyperbole is this? She was asked to show a receipt. Something
that is routinely done at all Walmart stores. There is no moral
equivalence. One demand is reasonable, the other is not!”

No it is not a strawman. Ver does not know what a strawman is. Posing the question to Ver of whether Ver would be for pat downs to is not a strawman. It is a legitimate question. Ver says there is no moral equivalence but does not state why that is. Ver says one demand is reasonable while the other is not, but does not address why. It’s not as if I put forth a scenario at a far different end of the spectrum from what was discussed. What’s the next step from being detained and having your belongings searched? You won’t find many steps between that and pat downs.

“No, there is not! The only story here is about a criminal. Walmart and
other stores have the RIGHT to dictate in-store shopping policy
guidelines. If you don’t like it, you can either go to another store or
shop online. It is pathetic to even remotely suggest that the Walmart
employee, an OLD lady, one who was doing her JOB was at fault. Maybe you
should join us here in the real world.”

Where is that policy? I haven’t seen it. This is from thebatvian.com http://thebatavian.com/howard-owens/witnesses-describe-combative-situation-after-walmart-employee-asked-see-receipt/29696:

“A spokeswoman for Walmart said the company may release a statement later
on its actual receipt check policy, but meanwhile she referred The Batavian to a loss prevention expert with the National Retail Federation, based in Washington, D.C.”

That’s from a local source. It seems Walmart isn’t even clear enough on its own policy to provide an immediate explanation of it when asked. You are simply ignorant of the law. Walmart does not have the right to forcibly detain or search a person. If they don’t like it they can make their money doing something else. The only contract is that of the sale, not to be stopped and searched.

“You are on THEIR property. They have EVERY right to do so if they
suspect you are pilfering their merchandise. Profiling will always take
place. (You can intellectually discuss the ethics & morals revolving
the protocol here.) Businesses, though, lose billions of dollars every
year to shoplifters and theft by employees. My bro working at a Kohls
store years ago had his stuff checked every night (other employees were
searched as well) before going home from work! These preventative
actions are not only reasonable, they are a necessity to ensure survival
of businesses. ”

They already have multiple measures in place! Being on their property, which they open to the public, does not give them the right to subject you to detainment and search. If anyone doesn’t believe me, try to “detain” and “search” your girlfriend the next time she wants to leave your property and see how fast you get slapped in cuffs. That’s nice Ver’s brother had his stuff checked. My brother turned in his bags once, only to realize later an employee of the store had stolen some items from him. I have shown a receipt many times. My, and other customers, volunteering to do so does not translate into Walmart’s right to impose such over time. I can easily see why a customer wouldn’t. Many customers have refused. 

“So why are you excusing her criminal behavior? You are the customer. You
have the choice to go into that store and abide with their policies or
not! Use your purchasing power (amongst other avenues) to express your
disdain for certain practices if they detest you so much. You don’t
punch people like an uncivilized buffoon! ”

Again, where is this policy stated as conditions for shopping at Walmart? Where does Walmart draw the legal authority to detain and search someone, without reasonable suspicion of theft? Ver saying I excuse the criminal behavior is an outright lie Ver has repeated many times now to bolster a weak argument.

“If it’s a frequent hassle, why do you keep going to those stores with
that same coat? THINK. Normal people adapt, and try to avoid
confrontation. Sigh.”

Ver misses the point entirely. 1) The coat was a gift, which was a hassle to return. 2) Ver’s solution is to not wear the coat if I might be going to those stores. Of course I stopped wearing the coat to those stores. I shouldn’t be in the position to begin with of having to go through all of that. I own the coat. I should be able to wear it. If stores are going to go through all of these redundant measures to protect their property, they should at least deactivate their devices once ownership has transferred to the customer. As for avoiding confrontation, I’m not the one whose comment was banned.

“That is exactly what you were doing by asserting that the reaction by
this thug may have been warranted. I have your quote right here in
parentheses. 

[[ '..the lady were her age she might have a chance
to beat the case in court, seeing as how the lady stepped out to
approach her, depending on if she were approached in a threatening
manner which could constitute assault...']]

Stop backpedalling now after seeing how silly your position really was or is.”

Ver does not understand that you can have a situation in which two parties are wrong. Ver’s narrative of bad blacks versus goodly whites does not allow for that. Ver intentionally leaves out the “IF” from my comment to further perpetuate the lie that I support the assault of an elderly woman. Here is a quote of the cash register admitting to snatching the bag from the woman:

“”I was working at Walmart on register 2 when I asked a man for a
receipt. The man said that the bag was
the female’s who I was checking out. The man and the woman both refused
to show me the receipt, which is the company’s policy. I paged my
manager about three times. I walked around and took the bag from the
man. The female grabbed the bag from me, yelling at me saying the F word
every other word. I grabbed the bag back and the bag tore.”

As I said, you don’t handle an old lady the way you would a fit young man, but let’s not pretend she was sitting there counting the money in her drawer when some thug, with no prior record I might add, sucker punched her.

“Spoken like a truly ignorant person. I don’t excuse bad behavior (like
you seem to do do) because of the color of the skin of the perpetrator.
Yes, I am black, and honestly, your sophomoric post above reinforces the
stupidity that pervades the black community today. Eternal victimhood. I
have no problem being harsh towards other blacks, your ad hominem
attacks notwithstanding. I call it as I see it.”

The stupidity that pervades the black community? Did you take a poll there? Have you seen the candidates Republicans have put forth for President? You sure you want to make a note of stupidity pervading the black community? You’ve already said you are black once. Congratulations, so is Herman Cain. Congratulations on making another broad statement about blacks like the one that was banned earlier.

“You are a joke. So you want me to put my race above everything else? Did
you never ever think that if people in the black community were more
self critical on current social mores, that, that by itself would force
positive change within our communities? But what happens when prominent
blacks like Bill Cosby do so? They are castigated and vilified as race
traitorous ‘Uncle Toms.’ Remember when Jesse Jackson said he was going
to cut Obama’s nuts off, just because Obama had the gall and audacity to
be critical about some of the failings of African Americans? JJ is
supposed to be a LEADER too, yet, his race-centric agenda & myopia
clouds his judgment in what should be a straight forward undertaking. I
refuse to do that crap. My brother is in pharmacy school right now. He
will be a pharmacist in about a year’s time, but yet, some racist
redneck prick’s first impression upon seeing him would be to assume he’s
some urban thug. Who the F do you think perpetuate these ugly
stereotypes of us? It’s morons like this Simmons B1TCH, and you want me
to excuse for her vile actions? Go screw yourself, sincerely. I am not
addressing the rest of your blatherskite. Nonsense.

No, I want you to be able to acknowledge that this woman’s actions crossed a line without attempting to condemn a whole race in the process. I want you to look at what happened to your brother and place more blame on the racist “rednecks” you seek to excuse than some woman neither your brother, nor those “rednecks,” have ever met. Instead you come on here and do the work of those rednecks for them. It’s amazing how you can acknowledge the stereotype as a stereotype, tell a story of your brother being effected by a stereotype that doesn’t apply to him, yet go on to perpetuate stereotypes in your posts. “Who perpetuates these stereotypes of us?” YOU!

“PS: You obviously have not been here long enough. I am an equal
opportunity offender. If the white guys here cross the line, I’m on
their ass. Quit crying when I jump on blacks. Congrats on trying to use
the race card on me by the way. Tool. ”

Once again you ASSUME. No surprise there. You don’t have to look any further than these boards for examples of whites crossing the line. You joined them in crossing it. You think that somehow makes you neutral, an equal opportunity offender. That’s a damn shame. Congrats on using that “race card” term racists like yourself employ to downplay the existence of racism.

PS: Since you are an “equal opportunity offender,” I expect to see you on the Sandusky post making ignorant comments about whites, white run institutions, and rape.

For all the racists, like Verreauxii, commenting on this story.

http://www.ajc.com/news/walmart-employee-stabbed-by-1257081.html

A Walmart employee was stabbed, on the 12th of this month, while trying to stop a shoplifter. That’s right STABBED. The perp? A young white woman. Now if you’re like Verreauxii, and by like I mean a racist, you were probably expect blacks to be the perpetrators of these acts. Maybe you should analyze the discrepancies in the ways minorities are portrayed in the media. You certainly won’t find that story on mediaite.

How many years do you get for stabbing a Walmart employee after he caught you stealing?

http://www.ajc.com/news/walmart-employee-stabbed-by-1257081.html

Or this homeless white woman who stabbed a Walmart employee earlier in the month after he caught her stealing.

http://www.ajc.com/news/walmart-employee-stabbed-by-1257081.html

As a final parting shot, here you go:

http://www.ajc.com/news/walmart-employee-stabbed-by-1257081.html

That’s the story of a white woman who earlier in the month stabbed a Walmart employee after he caught her shoplifting. Regal us with your social commentary on whites oh Equal Opportunity Offender. Better yet, realize you’re a tool contributing to the perpetuation of stereotypes against your own people (Did you see the story I posted on Mediaite? Has it gotten nearly the attention of the one involving the black assailant?), go somewhere and do not come back until you have fixed yourself.

Don’t look at me.
I just commented on what you said.
I didn’t flag you.
 

Do stories of Walmart employees being assaulted only matter when the perpetrator is a minority? Because earlier this month a white woman stabbed a Walmart employee who caught her shoplifting and it hasn’t received nearly as much play in the media or amongst you racists.

http://www.ajc.com/news/walmart-employee-stabbed-by-1257081.html

They’re not, but ask and Censure will provide.

White woman stabs Walmart employee who caught her stealing, earlier this month.

http://www.ajc.com/news/walmart-employee-stabbed-by-1257081.html

Why don’t you get a avatar with a black man with overalls on holding a watermelon? Idiot!
You’re not funny. Grow up! What, are you a jr high schooler on vacation this week?
This will be the last time I feed you.
Racist troll!

If you look real deep inside it seems there is little bit of racism is in all of us. We are programed that way. Humans are very tribal in nature.
 I try to be colorblinded and I feel I am very succesful. I wish the rest of the world would try as well.
It would be a much better place.

It’s great how Mediate won’t let you type f u c k, but racist garbage is welcome. I guess they market this site as a must-read for the family-friendly bigot demographic.

Exactly. I don’t understand it at all. I tried to use the “c” word to describe a dog fighting operation. Little did I know my post would be held up for a review that will likely not happen. I will give them credit in that one of Verreauxii’s racist comments was deleted from the comments on this story. Normally, unless they directly hurl a slur, people are allowed to get away with blatant racism here.

I really do question the reporting that gets done on these types of stories as well. This site is supposed to be visited by all sorts of media honchos, right? Can someone explain why this story has gotten so much play, but this story http://www.ajc.com/news/walmart-employee-stabbed-by-1257081.html about a white woman caught shop lifting who stabbed a Walmart employee has received little play?

On top of it look at how the sloppy journalism in the way this story is being reported nationally. The image being painted is that of the black thug that attacked an elderly greeter just because she asked to see a receipt. The woman was a cashier, not a greeter. The thug has no priors. It was not an A (ask for receipt) to B (punch in the face) affair. The cashier asked to see a receipt for the customers bags. The customer did not wish to show it. The customer was within her rights not to show it. Receipt checks are voluntary. The cashier, ignorant of the law, insisted on seeing the receipt. Why Walmart has elderly cashiers, or even greeters, checking receipts instead of trained security personnel I don’t know. It could be another cost savings measure. The cashier then went so far as to engage in a physical confrontation with the customer by attempting to wrestle the bag, legal property of the customer, away from her! As a result the bag tore and spilled its contents. That is what provoked the attack. Was it right of a 26 year old to do that to an old lady? No, but I say as much only in the fact that the cashier was an elderly lady. The cashier was completely in the wrong up to that point, and if it were a story of a white male customer decking a similarly aged white male cashier, after that stunt, it would be viral on the internet, but everyone would be hailing the customer as a champion of the little man. Or if you would, imagine that the roles were reversed. Imagine if the old white woman were the customer and the young black woman the cashier who tried to detain her and take her personal property, resulting in the bag ripping and the contents spilling to the ground. The only reason the shopper is at fault is because of the age of the cashier. It’s not the black and white (no pun intended) story of black thug assaulting lil’ white granny the media has portrayed it as. Check out the real story, in the words of the cashier herself, and witnesses, here http://thebatavian.com/howard-owens/witnesses-describe-combative-situation-after-walmart-employee-asked-see-receipt/29696

It’s Reverend Al you dope! You didn’t see his “booberry pah” commercial?

That white woman was probably married to a negro savage who beat her on a regular basis.
That’s what they do to their white hos

75% of the negroes belong in cages.

Sounds like wishful thinking on your part. Otherwise, your whole worldview is turned on its head and your racist existence rendered meaningless.

First, almost ANY news story about Wal-Mart gets play time in the media, except when WM gives to charity or other organizations within their community…

Secondly, the 70 year old woman, asking for receipts was NOT a cashier, she was a “People Greeter”, and anyone that shops at WM may be expected to show their receipt-even employees and employees spouses. 

Third, almost nothing in the media gets reported when a minority commits a crime on a white person…

So, get over your bad self. 

It’s ok dude. I really didn’t mean it that way when I responded to your post. 

You go, man!

Jacquetta needs to ge her black ass kicked and I’d bett there are many folks who can relate to the name

Odds that you are black or a white liberal, 110%

99.999% of NIGGERS give the rest of them a bad reputation!

Of course she is black. The only thing that is worse than a black is a white liberal.
Quick question for all the blacks and white liberals: Why is it that blacks are the only ones who barely own any businesses? Yet, third-worlders like Mexicans and Indians open businesses left and right? Interesting isn’t it? Now fumble for an answer and make sure it’s a blame-whitey answer LOL

”
 For Ver to say this woman was arrested because she didn’t want to show her receipt is as ridiculous as asserting that, in the previous scenario, the person was arrested because they had the nerve to take offense to what he said. In attempting to associate a specific attitude to black shoppers, that they are too uppity to show a receipt like everyone else”

Pure nonsense, and I will address it the last time since you are obviously being illogical. The THUG was arrested for punching the Walmart employee because she didn’t feel she had to show said employee her receipt. They are RELATED incidences. Stop being silly  and accept the  facts as they were presented in the report. The punch was a reaction to another action. Oh. My. God. 

“Posing the question to Ver of whether Ver would be for pat downs to is not a strawman. It is a legitimate question. ”

Yes, it is introducing a strawman. There were no patdowns that took place in THIS specific case. It is irrelevant. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man 
You want me to address your strawman, so you can attack it. I will not nibble on that bait. We are not talking about a hypothetical situation. We are discussing an ACTUAL event, and a series of sub-events that took place. Your argument is SILLY, so you opt to distract from it’s silliness. Stay on topic. 

“Where is that policy?”

Go to the source. Talk to a sales representative at your nearest Walmart.

“Walmart does not have the right to forcibly detain or search a person.”

Here you AGAIN with your hyperbolic nonsense. The lady in this case was NOT touched by the Walmart employee. Nowhere in the report was this mentioned. Secondly, Walmart can legally detain you for a short period of time to enable you to prove ownership of said property. Here is such a case.
http://www.swlearning.com/blaw/cases/reasonable_detention.html 
The 4th amendment (unreasonable search/seizure) is a restriction on what the GOVERNMENT can do to you….not what a private entity like a corporation can do to you, especially on their property. Sigh. 

“They already have multiple measures in place! Being on their property, which they open to the public, does not give them the right to subject you to detainment and search. ”

Did you even read my post…at all? I said they have the right to search/detain you IF there’s reasonable suspicion. The law is on their side. The lady’s behavior absolutely would have warranted her search/detention even if she had not punched the employee. You are on their property. They need proof that you did NOT walk out without paying for their merchandise. This is not the only establishment that performs such verification. BTW, their property being “open to the public” does not mean it is your right to be there. It is private property. They (security) can still kick you out of it (or detain you shortly till LEO shows up) if they are not happy with your actions/behavior.

“ Again, where is this policy stated as conditions for shopping at Walmart? Where does Walmart draw the legal authority to detain and search someone, without reasonable suspicion of theft?”

I have already linked you to a good example of a case showing their legal grounds. They can do it. You do not have the right to walk into an establishment and walk out with merchandise from said establishment. They have every right to make sure you have paid for it. You seem to conflate annoyance or inconvenience with illegality. 

“Ver saying I excuse the criminal behavior is an outright lie Ver has repeated many times now to bolster a weak argument.”

You sure did. I already re-quoted the incriminating post earlier. You are not blind. READ IT. Excusing a thug’s actions is complicitly condoning said thug’s bad behavior. The backpedaling continues…

“Of course I stopped wearing the coat to those stores.”

So why were you whining about it then? It seems to me like you solved your little problem like any rational person would have. Were you trying to argue that your rights were being infringed in some sort of way? Guffaw. 

“Ver does not understand that you can have a situation in which two parties are wrong. Ver’s narrative of bad blacks versus goodly whites does not allow for that. ”

‘Wrong’ by what metrics? I am using a very simple metric here. It’s called the LAW. There was only ONE person in this situation who did something “wrong.” The thug. Your latter comment deserves no response based on it’s odious nature..

 ”As I said, you don’t handle an old lady the way you would a fit young man, but let’s not pretend she was sitting there counting the money in her drawer when some thug, with no prior record I might add, sucker punched her. ”

‘Handle?’ WTF are you talking about? From the report, the lady had been standing idly by doing her job! They usually always stand right by the store’s exit points. You seem to (AGAIN) think that the thug’s reactions against a fit young man would have been appropriate. Why do you keep digging? I still can’t get over the fact that you tried to present a frail old lady as a menacing threat to this thug who was reportedly TWICE her size.

“ You sure you want to make a note of stupidity pervading the black community?”

That got your panties all tied up in a bunch? Do you want me to break it down on why I arrived to such a conclusion? (Black incarceration rates, teen pregnancies, teens w/STDs, high school graduation rates, college enrollment, welfare dependency, family breakdown, drop in marriages, AIDS etc) You can’t seem to stop yourself from playing the race card, can you? That will not work with me, junior. Yes, that is the same stuff that was thrown towards Herman Cain. I hate his positions/policies, but, he did not need to get that crap from some of you ignorant folks. 

“Congratulations on making another broad statement about blacks like the one that was banned earlier.”

The things I mentioned above are pervasive in the black community. Maybe you can tell us why I am wrong. I can corroborate all that with statistical data, but, you are not really interested in a rational discussion. Kvetching is all you want to do. 

“No, I want you to be able to acknowledge that this woman’s actions crossed a line without attempting to condemn a whole race in the process. ”

That would be myopic. The woman is a product of a pervasive thug culture that is almost celebrated within certain demographic groups. You seem to be more offended by how I put it across rather than the truth within. That’s where ignorance on your part comes to play. You simply can not ignore the inherent issues within the AA community that breed such wonderful products like this thug. I attack the problem. If we all did it, racist whites would not have any evidence to support their stereotypes and archetypes of the ‘violent black.’ It’s very simple. You are an example of the obstinate nature of the average AA who vilify self-criticism. Geez…I’m not a conservative, but, try and read some old papers written by Thomas Sowell on the subject. Like Tupac once said, I do not want to be responsible for what every black male did. That has always been my motto. Call me a black cracker if you want if it makes you sleep better. BTW…there was a thread here where some asshole was trying to prove that black guys target white women for rape. Maybe you should read what I had to say about it (and what I was called) since I obviously never attack white racists on Mediate. Silly child. 

I knew it, I just knew you be right at the top of this one  LOL

What is being reported on here, Cynthia? A minority committing a crime against a white person. The woman was a cashier. I am sorry to inform you the media you trust so much has filled your head with false information. Come back when you are less ignorant.

” From the report, the lady had been standing idly by doing her job! They usually always stand right by the store’s exit points.”

You are quite ignorant. I’ve been wasting my time on you. You can’t even read, or you don’t want to. Here’s an update for you, as it appears you are quite slow on the uptake, the elderly lady was a cashier, not a greeter. By her own account she took the property of the customer and engaged in a wrestling match over the bag which resulted in it ripping and spilling the contents to the ground. This was hardly standing by idly. This is the problem with the way the media portrays these stories. Shoddy journalists report them without the facts, bloggers put them up on their sites, and people like you, with your preconceptions, come and read falsehoods that support your bigoted worldview.

If you’re going to come on here with such a charged opinion, have the decency to know what you are talking about. That you still think the CASHIER was “standing idly by,” or where a greeter would be, demonstrates just how ignorant you are on what you are talking about. Go research the story and go research the law while you’re at it.

Only a racist would think that is somehow on par, or worse, than being a racist

As far as you taking on racism, you can start with the people in this comments section lined up on your side of the debate. There are plenty of examples to choose from.

Still digging your own hole of ignorance. I have been to many Walmart stores and never have I been asked by a checking out cashier to show a receipt. There are people who specifically do that job. They usually have a pen and write something on your receipt. This happens when you buy expensive or bulky items such as electronics. Perhaps in a lowly staffed store, there may be multitasking. But here again you continue to justify the actions of the thug. So what if the old lady was a cashier instead of a greeter, how the F does that excuse the reaction of the thug punching her? Your stupidity knows no bounds while you continue harping about non-existent racial bias in this specific case.

To Censure,

“You are quite ignorant. I’ve been wasting my time on you. You can’t even read, or you don’t want to. Here’s an update for you, as it appears you are quite slow on the uptake, the elderly lady was a cashier, not a greeter. ”

Nowhere is it being reported that she was NOT a greeter. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57348476-504083/cops-woman-arrested-for-punching-walmart-greeter-on-christmas-eve/ 
http://www.5min.com/Video/Police-Woman-Punched-70-Year-Old-Walmart-Greeter-517236549

Before calling me “ignorant” get your facts straightened out. It’s only the greeters who ask to see for receipts…not cashiers. The story is consistent with what we know about Walmart operations. Notice you do not provide us with this “evidence” you think we are ignoring. If we are wrong, prove it! I go by the facts reported…not by the ones you make up in your delusional little mind.

You’re one of them

You do have curious positions, on race for instance.  But, I have never criticized you.  In fact, I find most of your comments amusing, and hopefully, “tongue and cheek.”

I think you know my political ideology too?Purveyor

I wrote a short paper about my innate racism.  The fact is, that as a kid growing up in rural Wisconsin, I had no exposure to other “races,” except Indians from the various reservations, the big city could be overwhelming.

I told the Prof. that I “wince” when I see a “salt and pepper” couple, or two lesbians holding hands.  ”Wince” was the only word I could come up with and all I meant was that I notice them.  However, my “innate” intellect allowed me to overcome any inkling of overt racism.

I told the Prof, that this was my and possibly other’s experience, and that future generations will, probably no longer even “wince.”  Racial harmony has been a journey and we continue on today.

My Professor told me, point blank, I was a racist!  I should have waited for the room to clear and punched the Liberal prick.  I mean it as there is a time and place?  

Anyway, I was honestly confronting a personal and societal dilemma and this dolt from Boulder…  Never mind.  I think my point coincides with yours.  (except the punch)

Purveyor

Understood…..

This Simmons whore should have been dragged from her car and hanged from the nearest pole!  What an ugly smelly skank this lowlife whore of a whore is!  Hitting a little old lady, how lowlife!  I pray Simmons catches Syphlis and spreads it within her lowlife community!  Skank!

It doesn’t excuse hitting an old lady. I’ve said that many times. The same way Ron Paul identifies American foreign policy decisions that precipitated 9/11, while acknowledging that 9/11 is not an appropriate response. Two wrongs don’t make a right, but let’s not get revisionist and pretend two wrongs didn’t occur, especially when the result is this false narrative in the media of black thug beats up innocent lil’ white granny.

The lady was a cashier Ver. The account that I give is coming from the old lady. She asked them to show a receipt, they declined, the cashier then stole their property. The 26 year old female took it back, the cashier tried to take it again. During the altercation the bag ripped spilling the contents to the ground. She wasn’t standing idly by doing her job as you asserted earlier. All of this information I have posted in these forums and linked. I’ve already done the research once for you. Stop being lazy.

I already linked it in a prior response, Ver! Stop being lazy and read it! It was in the response to you! It has been posted on separately elsewhere in these forums as well! You are dead wrong on this issue and speaking out of your ass as if you know something. Next time get your facts straight before coming on here to post racist rants. That’s the problem with taking a story and blowing it up into some social commentary on race. The story doesn’t apply to all blacks, and to boot the reporting in the story was misleading to say the least! Stop being lazy and do your research, lest you be accused of perpetuating a stereotype.

CENSURE,

You’ve been to prison, haven’t you?  Your attitude, the puffy chested demeanor coupled with bitterness, tells me you might be an ex-con?  Merely an observation, not intended as pejorative, that part is up to you?

Also, I suspect you lack a formal education, however, your innate intellect allows you to assimilate knowledge, unfortunately, you organize it poorly.  While incarcerated, you started reading, a lot, and that, coupled with what would pass for propaganda, created the inflexible beast you’ve become.

Have you ever read “Soul on Ice” by Eldridge Cleaver?  A book written by an incarcerated Black Man, (“Negro,” in the vernacular of the time) whereby Cleaver, a former Black Panther, takes an honest look at himself.

I have a copy, they are quite rare.  I’m sure the Library system can obtain one for you.

The Purveyor of Rhetoric

WOW!

This discussion would been my “cup-o-tea.”  In the past, I have asserted, had MLK survived and continued on his “righteous path,”  the Jesse Jacksons, Louis Farrakhans and Al Sharptons would have been relegated to obscurity, where they belong.

King had his flaws, we all do.  Furthermore, King had some Socialist inclinations, oh well.  But, what King had that made  him so special, was the dream of a “table of brotherhood.”

What KIng was saying, is that “equal protection” is an unequivocal concept, both substantively and procedurally.  Moreover, America could not use discrimination as a method to alleviate, or eliminate discrimination.

(Note: I wrote a reply to CENSURE, just above this one I wrote to you.  He deserved it, as I read the entire dialogue)

Purveyor

A noble gesture, thank you…

Okay, she had a receipt why not show it and move on? If she felt that there was no valid reason to show the receipt why not ignore the person asking and just move on? What compelled this outburst of savagery? What threat did the 70 year old pose to a 26 year old twice her size? I’d really like to hear some follow up to this story as well as justice to be served.

Okay, she had a receipt why not show it and move on? If she felt that there was no valid reason to show the receipt why not ignore the person asking and just move on? What compelled this outburst of savagery? What threat did the 70 year old pose to a 26 year old twice her size? I’d really like to hear some follow up to this story as well as justice to be served.

You can try to claim no offense, but it is what it is. You were yucking it up with a racist in this comments section so it is evident where you are coming from. As for prison, never so much as been placed in cuffs, let alone been arrested. Your ASSumptions reveal much about you.

Six days ago I stumbled into this conversation/dialogue and after re-reading it a couple times, I finally begin to understand portions that eluded me earlier.

Did you actually have part of your comments removed because of the politically incorrect subject matter above?  (high criminal element in African American Community)  

“A problem cannot be solved until first identified.”  Any recovering addict/alcoholic can tell you that!  Anyway, this reminds me of the President of Harvard University being fired for suggesting men and women learn differently.  Grotesque political correctness!

Question:  Have you ever read the short story “Harrison Bergeron,” by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr?  The movie is lousy, but the short story is a quick read and can be found in the Book “Welcome to the Monkey House” by Vonnegut.  You will find the story germane as well as compelling.

Also, I mentioned earlier a book by Eldridge Cleaver, a former Black Panther, which I am sure “Censure” would prefer to avoid.  Cleaver talks about his experience while incarcerated and the fact that white women were considered the ultimate “trophy” for black prisoners.  I do not mention this to support racism, rather, to expose a simple truth, at least in that era.

My point, paradoxically, whoever fears the truth is both a coward as well as dangerous.

Purveyor

You pretend sophistication and intellect, yet your prose contains colloquialisms that diminish your credibility as well as expose an inability to think and express yourself clearly.

Also you make petty accusations without supporting evidence, rather, ad hominem coupled with bellicose nonsense. I’d prefer you say what you really think and move on, as the process of dialogue is a waste of time when the “substance” of the opposing viewpoints is entrenched to the point of dogma.

In other words, I accept the fact that you see me as your enemy and I may someday meet you on the battlefield.

Purveyor of Rhetoric

Sorry, I am getting to this right now. But, yes, my commentary was seen as being incendiary even though I had a preamble stating quite clearly that the commentary MAY appear racist, but that was not the intent. I simply pointed out that the perp. was black and I was not too shocked to see this. Basically, using NCVS crime stats as the backdrop to profile, I made a corollary deduction. Let’s not forget I have personal experience living among people with similar mindset. However, that was too harsh I suppose. I obviously did not disclose my race until someone decided to pull the race card on me and called me a racist KKK cr#cker. Sigh. I just despise excuses. 

I guess this is proof that Mediaite isn’t comprised of, or governed by “Platonic, Philosopher kings/Guardians?”

When in doubt, censor…

Purveyor 

Isn’t this “tactic?” a favored one by the extreme left,Purveyor.
They possess no rational arguments,and the defensive position is of anticipation….thus leaving Philosophic interpretation well within the perimeters of argumentation.