West: ” As a matter of fact, I can’t fill up a tank of gas in my vehicle back home with $40 of gas.”

That’s because most conservatives insist on exercising their “right” to drive enormous gas-guzzling vehicles, you moron.

Obama’s been just throwing borrowed money at people, hoping to dupe them just enough to get re-elected.
His “budget” last year was voted down 97-0, in a Democrat-controlled chamber!

Reid won’t even bring his latest incarnation up for a vote this time, it’s so laughable and dishonest in its’ projections.

West is right, all of these political machinations have to go; and let’s get serious people committed to helping the country – not pushing their own ideology.

American hero Col. West is absolutely correct. This is an election year gimmick. There will be no more payroll tax cut next year. Obama only wants another four years and does not care what destruction he wreaks upon the land to get it.

“The world will little note, nor long remember” Barack Obama, because contrary to his own opinion, he is the nation’s worst president. He is an arrogant, hyper-partisan, race-baiting, committed socialist — a man whose deliberate attempts to transform the nation into a banana republic, with pictures of himself on the side of every building, have been thwarted only by his need to win one more election.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/02/obama_the_great.html#ixzz1mSZLZgCE

Aren’t these wing nuts supposed to be for tax cuts? Oh, wait, only for rich people. This is ridiculous.

 No, it’s because of the stranglehold the Democrats put on domestic oil and gas production, capitulating to radical, cult-like environmentalist groups.

the actuaries and the trustees have already said we’re looking at ten years before we have bankruptcy with Medicare and following that, Social Security with probably 25 to 30% with degradation of benefits. These are the things we need to say to the American people not playing games with them based upon $40.”

Absolutley, who is going to be the liberals messiah when this happens?

not Obama

How about the Candyman? The candyman can cause he mixes it with love and makes the world go around.

$40 isn’t much when you’re like West and make $175,000 a year. And seriously, get off the high horse Allen. You never play political games? Right.

Exactly.  It comes down to personal responsibility. 

Something that conservatives preach, yet they wont practice. 

 Anyone who thinks driving a vehicle that gets 12 MPG is a positive thing, then they clearly don’t have a brain (or they are a conservative.  They seems to be interchangeable).  First, it’s more expense on you and secondly, it increases the demand for oil, which ultimately plays a role in the rising price of gasoline.

$1.89 gal. for gas when the candyman got into office.It will be at 5$ this summer.
Don’t worry about gas guzzlers this guy will have us in rickshaws by next winter.

What does $40 not get the consumer, or what does $6,400,000,000 get the economy?

I drive electric myself.

I’m about to make that jump myself, albeit with some trepidation.

Yet the US is actually exporting gasoline for the first time in years.  Those gosh darn environmental kooks are clearly running the show here.

If Obama is for it. Then the Republicans are automatically against it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v3etuIw-aM

Just a year earlier (2008), under Bush they were $3.11. 

What’s your point?  Do you not understand how the oil market works?

 Oh, the Volt, hence the screen name.

Where do the other 54 Volt owners com from?
lol

 Generally, not automatically.
It’s a matter of intent, and it works the other way even more (Media Matters collusion as the go-between with the mainstreams).

Great tax credit as well!

Now, Big Petty, you know very well that Japan had a lost decade. The Raygun/Poppy Recession had worldwide implications, and it caused Japan’s economy to spiral downwards, exacerbated, true, by an inevitable breakdown in Japan’s work culture. Japan set about on a tepid course of pump priming, which was showing modest results, then embarked upon an austerity program before the the recovery was grounded, and which sent Japan into a serious, decades long downturn from which it is still not fully recovered. Pulling back on the tax “holiday” in the US will have the same effect on the US economy. That the dunderheads West and O’Van Karlsen don’t understand that is not surprising. You should know better.

No “like” for you on this.

Hope you don’t plan to go far.

Funny you equate “hero” with ” war criminal”.

These matters are better addressed when the W Tax Cuts for the Wealthy end in early January. Automatically. No legislation required.

All over and growing everyday.You should join us.
It’s patriotic. Especially if it is American made!

 That might be because of the onerous, and calculated, regulations to process it here (it is!).

Evidently he’s still a little bitter about his Pats.

All oil is all sold on the world wide open market. That is why drill baby drill in the United States is stupid. 

For people like Norbit and Gloves, their patriotism is about wearing flag pins and shouting at OWS protesters. They hold people who drive fuel efficient vehicles in contempt (as you can see from his snarky comment).

I understand supply and demand and  it did go under 2$ when bush was president you will never see it with this guy.
When Obamao will not develop our own supply like the keystone pipeline the price will stay unnecessarily high.
Which will force the poor people that only left wingers care about to pay 5$ a gal. for gas to get to their minimum wage jobs and force them to pay top dollar for heating oil.
While he dumps billions of tax money into the sunshine & unicorn energy companies.

The average gas price is $3.51 right now. If you have a 12 gallon fuel capacity, how much does it cost to buy those 12 gallons of gas? More or less than $40?

How many enormous, gas guzzling vehicles have 12 gallon tanks? How many vehicles have smaller than 12 gallon tanks, you moron?

Yeah, it’s all Obama’s fault Huh? You are only fooling yourself.
It is China’s increase in the purchasing of petroleum and speculation on the worldwide market because of Iran and the Strait of Hormuz. 
Try reading the news sometime.

How is buying an overpriced, carbon sucking, crappy car patriotic?

The price of oil/gas has nothing to do with supply and  demand any more. It’s determined by speculators whom conservatives are loathe to regulate.

So you’d rather buy foreign oil and export that cash than keep it here befitting American workers and American companies? What was that you were saying about being patriotic?

 Causal factors.

Gas price fluctuation under  Bush was not linked with any of his policies.

The $5.00 gas this summer (and it’s coming) will be linked directly to the Democrats War On Energy.
(Similar to the Democrats War On Religion – I get excited just typing that, and can’t wait for the commercials! – except it’s energy. lol)

This coming from a service-to-self tea bag politician who signed a pledge to a man who is not even an elected official (Grover Norquist) to not raise taxes on the very wealthy or cut any multi-national corporate welfare.  This coming from a fraud who will run for re-election in another district he doesn’t even live in because he can’t get re-elected in the one he is in now.  FO Allen West, you are not fit to serve the American people.

This isn’t a tax cut. You know that statement you get every year from Social Security that shows your contributions? Guess what won’t be in it? You’re borrowing this money from your future self.

When one has gone as far as I in life, one does do not go a great distance by automobile. On trips of some distance, one flies, Business Class or Better, My commute is less than 3 miles (I often cycle), and the trip to the airport is about 20 minutes.

Even Harry Reid has said no more tax holiday after this year.

And he’s a boxer.

“ I am just a poor boy.Though my story’s seldom told,I have squandered my resistanceFor a pocketful of mumbles,Such are promisesAll lies and jestStill, a man hears what he wants to hearAnd disregards the rest.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBK17OMyNuM&feature=related

 The Obama/Bush Tax Cuts for Everybody end in early January. Automatically. No legislation required.

Norbit, by definition gasoline is processed. Crude oil is not.

Funny, moron, but I can fill my tank for under $40 and I live in a northeastern state where fuel prices are higher. Furthermore, my car is fuel efficient so that I don’t have to fill it up every few days. And you know why that is? Because I’m not a jackass like most baggers who have to prove their manhood by coasting around town in a f*cking Escalade.

The price of gasoline dropped with the price on everything else when the Bush Recession hit in 2008. A few months earlier in the summer of 2008, we had $4 a gallon gasoline.

The price of gasoline is ultimately controlled by commodities traders and not the administration. I do like how conservatives scream to leave the free market alone to operate and then scream when the free market raises prices because they can.

Facts – try them.

So his argument is that $40 dollars isn’t that much anyway, so you don’t need it.  Absurd.

$40 dollars will feed me for over a week.  It would also pay for my electric bill, or half my cell phone bill. 

I think making a congressional salary has made him forget what ‘living hand to mouth’ really means.

Gasoline engine in the Volt is built in Austria.  Battery cells built in South Korea.  So much for your American built car. 

Yes – it is pronounced “Obama Tax cuts.”  There would be no tax cuts if Obama hadn’t signed legislation passed by a democratic senate, and a democratic house which stopped an automatic trigger raising the rates.  

It is pronounced “Obama Tax Cuts,” not “W Tax Cuts,” or “Bush Tax Cuts.”  You see, George Bush hasn’t been president for like 3 years now.

Its okay, alot of people make that same mistake.

This is a prime example when the American people vote against their own economic interest. We get corporate whores.

$40 would buy several rounds of ammo that West can fire at unarmed prisoners.

$40 also can fill up a motorcycle gas tank, so you can ride with a group of white supremacists.

$40 can buy a lot of West’s favorite things!

I wouldn’t go that far.  While speculators do play a large role in setting gas prices, demand does still play a role, albeit a smaller one.  As of late, especially since last year, all of the unrest in the Middle East has caused the recent spikes.  Even the threat of invasion to a Middle East country can cause crude oil prices to rise.  i.e the threat of of us (Israel) invading Iran.

What is it you think the speculators are speculating on? Hint: You’ll find it in Econ 101.

 How big is your gas tank, jackass? What are you driving that has less than a 10 gallon tank?

And where do you get this idiotic notion that Tea Party people are a big Escalade market? That most of them drive big SUV’s? What, other than your demented talking points, gives you that idea?

So you rather have oil spills like we had in the Gulf recently just go on happening over and over again. Destroying fishermen’s livelihood as well as everyone else in the greater Gulf area. That’s real helpful for our economy .Huh?
What were you saying about my patriotism? 

Hey, moron, you should do your math before spewing crap.  At $3.50 per gallon, $40 give you only about 11 gallons of gas.  “Enormous gas-guzzling vehicles” hold much more than that.  It takes $60-70 to fill one of those up. Eleven gallons is what you’d get on a smaller car.  Brilliance in action.

Forgetting, of course, that the electricity to which you plug your politically correct, but hopelessly ridiculous toy, was more than likely, produced by burning coal, and caused more pollution than my comfortable and reliable gas-powered, non-union-built Toyota Sienna.

Like from a streetwalker?

Yes you, Pablo and Norbit are completely clueless to the environmental disasters these oil companies have caused. (That’s why the lawyers love the oil companies.)  Of course you buy the
bullshit excuses that your puppet masters, owned by the oil moguls, direct you.  Yet, somehow they are making record profits.  How is it patriotic to export fuel overseas that drives up the price of gas? A good book that would open you and Norbit’s mind about the oil industry is “Vulture’s Picnic:  In Pursuit of Petroleum Pigs, Power Pirates, and High-Finance Carnivores.”  But alas, I think it would be a little over your heads considering you still choose to “…wear the coat that fitted you as a child as to have civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of its barbarous ancestors.” – Thomas Jefferson (chiseled in marble at Thomas Jefferson’s memorial.) You are on the wrong side of history.

That’s a pretty little strawman you’ve got there, Sparky. Careful with those matches.

If you developed your own oil which would produce 1000s of jobs on its own you would not have to give a shit on what China is doing or the Straits.

Speculators speculate on future supply and demand.
If the USA were to go balls to the wall production on oil, the price world wide would drop like liberals prom dress.

Right now it’s costing us about $45 to fill our Ford Escape in Milwaukee. Even if $40 does not get you a full tank of gas, to the vast majority of Americans $40 is a significant amount of money.

Gee, where would I EVER get that “demented” idea from:

Glenn Beck loves Cadillac Escalade, Disses Hybrids

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2010/08/glenn-beck-loves-cadillac-escalade-disses-hybrids/1#.TzvMJcoVcz8

You really are clueless. I hope that post of yours tops out at 100 guest “likes.”

I suppose you think those occupy nitwits that crap on the street are the real heroes, huh?  It never ceases to amaze me that you idiost can say anything and do anything you want in this country because people like him are there fight for YOUR freedom to be an idiot.

Using euphemisms, like “f*cking” only proves that you are desperately trying to hide the undeniable fact that you are a crude person who must make his weak arguments more palatable.

You know, all you libs talk about Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy, but I’ve benefitted from them greatly as a small business person.  I don’t make much money at all (I’m an artist), so I’m not anywhere near “wealthy” status.  You guys need to get a new line, because I’m not wealthy and I take advantage of them. 

” “Enormous gas-guzzling vehicles” hold much more than that.”

That was kinda my point, dimwit. You must be even slower than Pablo. People who drive enormous vehicles have to spend gobs of money filling them up. Particularly when they get 16 MPG, which is why a-sholes like West don’t think $40 goes very far.

Hey braniac–he is not running in his district because of RE-DISTRICTING!  He is forced to run elsewhere.  Incompetence in action.

Ridiculous, indeed.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/health-science/electric-cars-may-not-be-so-green-after-all-says-british-study/story-e6frg8y6-1226073103576

But if you’re going to buy one, the Nissan Leaf is a better car.

It is a tax cut, just not the type Republicans, for some reason, like. If you want to argue for tax cuts under all circumstances then be consistent, if only to have some credibility. It is a mystery why some poor people are always keen to get screwed by parasites in Wall Street and congress.

I hate to say it but ignorant people saying I am borrowing from the future should at least have the decency to ask themselves if the silly slogan they heard ad infinitum is actually true.

I could be wrong but I imagine most Americans buy vehicles based upon their budget and needs. As parents of a young child my wife and I wanted something safe, somewhat fuel efficient, and relatively affordable. It’s probably the same for most people. Always exceptions, but most people aren’t out there buying Hummers to make a political statement.

Ah, so Glenn Beck is representative of the average Tea Partier? You, sir, are an idiot.

Hey, look at all these SUV’s!

 http://www.zombietime.com/gore_in_marin/

So, what are you driving now, that you can get a full tank of gas for, for less than $40?

“I don’t need oil! I ride the bus!”

Brilliant. 

So what is linked to Bush is not his policies , but what is linked to Obama is? Huh? You can’t deal with people like this..they are stuck in neutral…

He is running in a district he doesn’t even live in.  But that is all you could say on my comment.  I’m ok with that.

Like Canada?

Col. Alan West fired a gun BESIDE a criminal terrorist’s head, causing no harm, except perhaps to the underwear of the terrorist.

The President ordered the execution of Osama bin Laden, when capture and trial was more than likely a clear alternative.

War criminal?

These are people who think killing cops makes you a hero, like David Gilbert and Mumia.

http://www.facebook.com/events/238705386215884/

Meanwhile, the guy who made a jihadi wet himself in the course of keeping his men safe is a war criminal. No prosecution necessary.

The cut comes from your FICA withholding. If you have any idea what FICA is, then you already know what I said is true. Apparently, you don’t.

War Criminal West is like the rest of the right wingers who don’t care about the middle class…they want to cut your Social Security and Medicare ,raise your taxes so Romney can get another tax break…and the fools in here that agree with that…just don’t get sick..or lose your job…of course then you will be running to the govt….its a pattern of these guys…

exGOPman, here is something to feed your oh so patriotic, politically correct, demented and distorted ego:

Sean Hannity also drives a “F*CKING” Escalade.

west says this isn’t good policy. the only good policy is creating huge deficits to finance tax breaks for his benefactors who’ll leverage the money to buy default swaps on greece! like soledad said at the beginning, when this phony loses in november he might be a co-host on cnn or faux!

In all honesty, I’m not sure I got my info correct.  I’ll have to withdraw on this one.

Color me unsurprised.

*sigh*  1.  Osama was a vaild military target. 2.  He never “orderd the execution” 3.  If there was a trial you would be crying up and down that he sould not be given any rights, etc. 4  You are either a liar or stupid. 5.  Im going with both.

1. A New Small Business Health Care Tax Credit2. A New Tax Credit for Hiring Unemployed Workers3. Bonus Depreciation Tax Incentives to Support New Investment4.75% Exclusion of Small Business Capital Gains5. Expansion of Limits on Small Business Expensing6. Five-Year Carryback of Net Operating Losses7. Reduction of the Built-In Gains Holding Period for Small
Businesses from 10    to 7 Years to Allow Small Business Greater Flexibility
in Their Investments8. Temporary Small Business Estimated Tax Payment Relief to Allow
Small Businesses to Keep Needed Cash on Hand

Eight separate small buisness tax cuts signed into law in the Recovery Act.  You can thank Pres. Obama for that.

Yes they are heroes. Alan west was commiting war crimes in Iraq.  My freedoms NEVER needed protection from Iraq.

What kind of car is it you’re filling up for less than $40? That was your claim.

The Republicans are going to take away part of your Social Security so millionaires will get a tax break…is that straight forward enough for your pea brain to understand? :The richest pay less while you will pay more…get it?  Understand? Thats what they want. Get it yet?

Why wasn’t he prosecuted, then?

Well, as a person who own a business, I’ll tell you that tax credits and tax and these things you’ve listed above are nice and I’ll take them, but they do not make you successful and pave the way to make more money.  If these things Obama offer are so great, why isn’t small business hiring right now?  It has less to with tax issues and more to do with being able to operate with out the govenment’s interference (on some fronts).

Recent study shows that the average income of owners of Chevy Volt is about $170,000/year, while the average income of others is around $40,000/year.

So, it would take an idiot to shell out more than a year’s income (before taxes) to buy into the false notion that the Volt is either economical or environmentally responsible, and buy a Volt. Union made, so not expected to last more than 100,000 miles.

Or a near 1%-er.  You know, those bastards who don’t pay their fair share of taxes.

That about as dumb of a comment that I have seen in here…

If West is a war criminal, why wasn’t he prosecuted and how did he retire with full benefits?

Wait you push for forgien cars but American oil?

I can always tell when you realize you’ve been hoisted on your own petard because 1.) you get nastier and more defensive and 2.) you start changing the terms of the debate.

Beck may not be “average,” but to suggest that he’s not “representative” of the tea party is your lamest dodge yet. (And that’s a mighty long list.)

And since you seem obsessed with this, my tank holds 10.5 gallons, which means I fill up for between $35-38 bucks. But the bigger point you obviously are determined to avoid is that my car is a helluva lot more fuel efficient than anything that most of these teabillies drive. Invariably, when I see someone with a bumper sticker that’s pro-Palin or “live free or die” or some Obama-hating message, they’re driving a fat ass car that gets sh!t mileage.

 And $5 Trillion in new debt…so far. Thanks, O!

The 40 dollar figure being thrown around starts at those who make 50,000 dollars a year or more. As the salaries go down, so does that 40 dollar figure. For those who make minimum wage it would only amount to about 5 dollars a week. 

How does crapping in the street and staying in a tent and being a nuisance make you a hero?  What exactly did thoseoccupy people accomplish, other than costing their cities millions of dollars in clean up, etc., and, women were raped, drugs…  sound like a great event that people will be takling about for years.  Probaly don’t realize it, but the majority of people don’t view you guys as heroes, just a bunch of nasty idiots who need to get a job.  Even the liberals have distance themselves from that crap. 

Again though, how are they heroes?  I’m really curious in that one. 

huh?  Small business hiring is at a 4 year high.  It’s amazing how people just say stuff not caring if it’s true or not.  Do some research, it’s quite easy nowadays.

Calling the sidewalk crappers heroes?  You just exposed your character, and hence lost all credibilty here.

Well, if the President did not order the execution of Osama bin Laden he should quit bragging about it at every turn.

He was relieved of his command

 nice to know the 16th amendment never passed legally…  West is a complete douche bag and pointing a gun at someone is not exactly how Jesus would have been wanting us to be treating each other.  You rant over $40 dollars while the country burns to the ground.  This rather pathetic and sad to watch morally deficient humans they and rationalize their sinful behavior.  Get a clue… 

I think we should start by allowing everyone who agrees with D bag West to contribute $40.  And anyone who thinks West is a hero could send their own children to war as well so we can have even more heroes!   

Wow more name calling Pablo way to go your skills are gone! Your frustration level is high. Are you having your period? 

Why does Obama keep coming out with new measures to help jumpstart the economy if we’re REALLY doing so much hiring.  Every time he addresses the nation, he has a new plan to do this.  In the real world, why is he doing that? 

Being at a “4 year high” when hardly anyone has been hiring over the last 4 years is not that surprising.  Have you also read that the Congressional Budget Office (Obama’s CBO) has reported that the real unemployemtn number is about 10% due to record number (their words) of people who have stopped looking for jobs?  Two days ago, a hand-written letter by Obama, himself, says–in his own words–that he thinks we are still a couple years away from a recovery.  Google it.  While you’re at it, Google all the agencies that are reporting that Obama’s new budget is way too optimistic because the economy is not as great as he thinks it is.  The last report I saw was that it was over 50 agencies–some of them even were Obama’s people. 

You should take your own advice and do a little research to go along with your Obama worshiping.

Umm..because Osama was behind 9/11…and Bush was too concerned about keeping a boogey man around?

My woefull republican Governor started taxing my pension! I now pay $69.37 a month to the state of MI so he could give a tax break to business. I could tell you a lot of things we don’t do because of it! Tax and give to rich republicans!

A small AMERICAN one!

They way that the USA consumes petroleum,we as a country could not produce enough oil for itself even if you set up an oil derrick in everyone’s backyard and off every beach in the USA.

 It’s ok. At least a dozen other faceless guests will find something to “like.”

Why don’t we get someone who has the guts to say we are going to fix this without sacrificing the security of our senior citizens?

FIX don’t have to mean CUT!

Blah blah rape..thats all you have to try to discredit Occupy.  If someone was raped how is that connected to the movement?  By your logic all Repus are racist, in denial closeted homosexuals lurking in batrooms, religious zealtos who hate reason…oh wait…I guess your logic works.

Oh just stand by. These “conservative” scum bags don’t ever stop with the dumb comments. It’s why we enjoy having them: for the entertainment!

You must be a Very Proud Japanese American!
I’m happy to see it!

If he was captured it would have been open season on Americans around the word! I don’t think even the republicans want that!

Fix it and STFU

While you feel it is your patriotic liberal duty to denigrate rich people, like Mitt Romney, you seem to forget about tax-cheat and gigolo and self-inflicted-wound Purple heart recipient John Kerry, who decided to dock his yacht (or is his wife’s yacht?) in a state other than where he lives. 

Or Nancy Pelosi. Or Barbara Boxer. Or Harry Reid.  Etc.  etc… etc.

Neither you, nor Obama, nor any of the above-mentioned worthies ever stated in any concrete numerical terms what a FAIR tax rate should be for the “RICH”.

 … which is still $20 dollars a month that they wouldn’t have otherwise.  Or $240 dollars a year.  An extra $240 a year is still a lot of money for someone who makes less than $20,000 a year. 

FIX it and STFU

Oh BTW there is this thing called leasing a vehicle which if you stay within the mileage guide lines makes it affordable to have a expensive car.
Just sayin’

You are a sly one like the devil half truths. Obama extended then he didn’t write them!

Hey mosesdinoark, rape is not the only thing to talk about when discrediting the oppupy bowel movement.  I’d be sitting here typing all day if we were to really get into the ugliness of that crap.  Now, can you answer the question of how the ocuupy folks are heroes in your little world? 

By the way, do you happen to know how you were afforded the right to go down there and make an ass of yourself in this free country?

Hey now, Darth Cheney told his minions that “Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter”. “Conservative” scum bag Republicans have followed that mantra lock, stock and barrel ever since. So much for small government, huh?

Yet his poor leadedship lives on!

This is off-subject, but it might be helpful and interesting reading for you and the other libs who think socialism is the way to go:

An economics professor at a local college made a statement that
he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire
class. That class had insisted that Obama’s socialism worked and that no one
would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class on
Obama’s plan”. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the
same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A…. (substituting
grades for dollars – something closer to home and more readily understood by
all).

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The
students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were
happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had
studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride
too so they studied little..

The second test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled
around, the average was an F. As the tests proceeded, the scores never
increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings
and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. To their great surprise,
ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately
fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when
government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. It
could not be any simpler than that.

Remember, there IS a test coming up. The 2012 elections.

These are possibly the 5 best sentences you’ll ever read and all applicable to
this experiment:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out
of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for
without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not
first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because
the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the
idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what
they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

Apparently, it makes sense to the occupy bowel movement people too, as they were getting angry when their property was being taken away from them, as well.

Yeah, but leasing is NOT owning.

And ownership is very important. Just ask those incompetents who thought that they could afford to OWN a million dollar home on a hamburger flippers’s wages.

Just saying.

Toyota Siennas are built in Indiana.

That $5 Trillion includes the trillions Bush kept off the books.  Accounting wise, Obama has spend less and gotten more than the republicons did.  But say hey, letting the Bush tax cuts on the wealthy expire and ending out-dated corporate welfare would have lowered that debt… but alas the republicons said no way.  They would rather do it on the backs of the middle class and the poor.  After all it is just that fractional percent of money changers in Wall Street and the offspring of wealthy barons who that truly owns the republicon party and its decreasing foolish followers.

Beck is a multimillionaire with a security detail, moron. He is not average and his lifestyle is not representative of the average Tea Partier. Your “proof” is utterly ridiculous.

If your car has a 10.5 gallon tank, it’s smaller than the vast majority of vehicles everyone drives. And it’s probably a 12 gallon tank which is very common. I don’t think anyone uses a 10.5 gallon tank.

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Wait, are you saying I wasn’t nice to the guy who led with calling people morons? I really don’t care.

My facts are in order. That’s all that really matters.

Jesus wouldn’t have been an officer in the Army.

Oh, I definetely agree, any amount of extra money is a blessing. I just think it is misleading to say 40 dollars without including the breakdown of salaries.

Like what? Name it.

The Ford Fiesta is the most fuel efficient gas only AMERICAN vehicle. It has a 12 gallon tank. You can’t fill that for $40.

I read your reply.  It didn’t make any sense.  Then I realized you were attempting to be clever and funny.  Try again but with less ignorance.  

If you’re going to answer the question, you should use an answer to the question.

Oh, it’s not just rape! There’s also filth, rampant drug use, violence, theft, disease… The list goes on.

Look! I have a made up talking point!!!

The pea brain is yours, child.

1. Domestic Oil Production is UP under President Obama.
2. Domestic Oil is then turned around and sold on the global market.
3. Did you think people can’t look this up for themselves?

Allen West Cartoon:
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/420958_10150552218718589_6277368588_9196038_764761777_n.jpg

–Cobra

They are the law right now because Obama signed them into law. Fact. Deal with it.

Keep spinning there, Pablo. This one is a definite 25 guest “like” post if ever there was one!

LMAO.

You just said it yourself dumdum…FREE COUNTRY.

 I agree wholeheartedly, but I would argue that using the base number of $50,000 is appropriate considering that’s the average income of an American family.

There is no keeping money off the books. Obama’s $5T debt is a result of Obama’s spending. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204479504576637513885592874.html

You can pretend otherwise all you like, but it looks silly.

No, you’re right. And he hasn’t even filed yet, so Walt is just rushing to the handiest smear with no regard for whether it’s true or not.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/05/allen-west-redistricting_n_1186512.html

All catholic priests are child rapists, correct?  All evangelical preachers are shopping at rent-a-boy, correct?

My 2005 Hyundai Elantra has a 12 gallon tank and costs around $40 to fill, give or take a dollar. An Escalade is a nice ride. I’d totally buy one if I could afford it. 

How many women were raped at these events?  Where do you get your distorted info…FakeNews?

Ok, I guess the intelligence level is inadequate, so I’m going to have to spoon-feed you on this one.  Do you have any idea how this country got to be free–and stay free?  Again, you are ducking the question.  You occupy bowel movement people really don’t have a clue. 

No its true.  Bush kept the cost of the wars off the budget under the guise of supplemental emergency spending.  You start to pay off the debt when you have more tax revenue coming in as we did in paying for the costs of World War II.  It is the republicons that have shown since Reagan that they are the big tax cutters and spenders without paying for the tax cuts that have done the most to drive up America’s debt.  The spending Obama has done is resulted in an economic recovery. 

Pablo, you are sorely misguided if you think the repubicons can run against Obama on the economy or spending.  They are getting desperate.  They are reduced to challenging the Pres. on social cultural issues.  And that ain’t going to well for them either.  Despite the obstructionism by the republicons just to see this president fail at the sacrifice of the American people… the economy is recovering. 

Why do you want to go backwards, Pablo?   

Every time you make an entry here, you are proving my point.  You are quite a human being.  You still haven’t answered my question about why the occupy people are heroes.  By the way, that answer was great and so juvenile.

Yeah the tiny Chevy Aveo has a 12 gallon tank. What has 10.5? I’m curious too. 

Well, I googled “rate at occupy” and 4 million hits came up.  The very first article by ABC news went into detail about 4 women (one of them in her early teens), and I stopped reading about half-way into the article.  Please Google it, you will find LOT of information on it.  See what I’ve been telling you are called “facts.”  That means it is real.  The fact that you didn’t know about this and are asking me where I get my distorted info…”Fakenews” really shows what a complete and utter dumba_s you are.  Even the other liberals on this site know that there were LOT of rapes and other unlawful things going on in those camps.  You really need to pull your head out of your rear-end.

Still waiting to hear what kind of car you have that fills up for less that $40.

It’s amazing that this simple little “fact” is so hard to come by, isn’t it?

Maybe you’ll find something sensible to “say.”

Yet somehow it was Bush’s policies that got Bin Laden??

Off the budget is not off the books, genius. All that means is that the appropriations were done in separate legislation. The money still came out of the Treasury. The expenditures still figured into the deficit. You know, the deficit Obama immediately tripled and then held to that as baseline.

How on earth did you get the idea that somehow those costs went onto Obama’s deficits?

BTW, the Catholic Church is not “repubicons”, dummy.

Please outline all the government interference that is preventing your small artist business from operating at peak efficiency.

Using the figure of $50,000 is just fine. Here’s my point:

Taxpayers will receive an additional $40 with this extension of the payroll tax cut.

Taxpayers will receive an additional $40 based upon a $50,000 salary with this extension of the payroll tax cut.

The first statement is misleading while the second statement clearly defines that it is based upon your salary. I would suggest that taxpayers are entitled to know that any additonal money they would receive because of this extension is based upon salary guidelines. I think it is reasonable to assume that every taxpayer may not know that the $40 figure is based upon an average income of $50,000.

Nowhere is this article do they mention that the $40 is based upon the $50,000 salary. They simply argue about what $40 will or will not buy you. If they had included that the amount you would receive is based upon your salary, then others (that do not make the average income) could argue what $5, $10, $15 or $20…etc…would or would not buy them. I don’t think it is fair to exclude those who are not part of the averge income bracket.

 I absolutely agree that they should qualify that the $40 dollars is based on an income of $50,000.  I did not consider that they had not until you said something and it is indeed an important thing to acknowledge.

Fear monger!

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24editorial_graph2.html?ref=sunday

 12 x say $3.55 is $42.60 so you don’t run completly run out of gas and have 1 gal in the tank it cost what? Figure it out. Calling names tsk tsk Pablo your roots are showing. Time to change your nick?

What war did you serve in ???

Pea brain…get less so the rich get richer…..get it yet?

What the hell does this have to do with the Obama Tax cuts for the richest 1%? 

You just keep giving up more so the rich get even richer…and like a little kid keep pointing your finger at others …they did it too…waaaa waaaa..typical

You know I’m saying the same thing about the GOP’s 2012 presidential candidates. XD

You can send your moneyto Japan and buy non union? You must make gavin proud!

- “a totally insignificant, irrelevant and spent force long before Obama was even elected” – GavinsTeaBaggedPapa

Is that why GWB stopped looking for him? Why did “conservative” scum bags wad their knickers up when the dude got a bullet through his head?

Ok the Fiesta has a 12 tank I will guess that you still have a gallon left in it when you pull to the pump, at $3.55 a gallon how much does it cost?

I drive a Honda Civic 4-door LX and it costs me around $33 to fill up.  Why is that hard to believe?  I also get 36 MPG.

Is Pablo THAT dumb?  12 gallons x 3.25 (current price where I live) = $39

My 2008 Civic has an 11 gallon tank.  Costs $35.75 if I don’t use Kroger’s pumps.  

Notice that I was not referring to my business when I said that government gets in the way of doing business.  I am a sole proprietor with no employees, but I have lots friends, clients who have employees and they tell me about all the red tape and other specific issues that they have to deal with on a daily basis.  I challenge you to go and find a small business owner that says:  “boy, I sure do enjoy these things I have to do for the government just to run my business,” or, “ boy, it really is a breeze to business with this government.” 

My point, that you missed entirely, is that I am responsible for my being successful or not.  Tax credits will not get me there–my efforts will.  A tax credit doesn’t pay the bills, Hoss.  My productivity does.  Anything that gets in the way of that productivity is interference.  Granted, some of it necessary, but there is much more that is not. 

If you can afford and electric car, then you don’t have to worry about how much gas costs!  And BTW, where do you think the electricity comes from?  Right now, most electricity is produced using fossil fuels!  PLUS the cost of producing that electric car are FAR more in terms of fossil fuel usage, than my gas car will ever use, because the parts for that car are shipped from all over the world!

You drive a volt…does that mean you are unable to afford to purchase a car on your own?  You need to rely on subsidies from taxpayers in order to afford a car?  BTW, is your volt back from the dealer after the last recall?  Have they actually come up with a solution to the exploding battery yet?  I truly do hope when your battery explodes your house doesn’t burn to the ground…or the taxpayer is likely to get stuck buying you a new home too!

Oh dear!  You LEASE?  You poor thing!  Be VERY careful not to go outside those milage guide lines or that Volt is going to be VERY expensive indeed!  But I guess you don’t really have much to worry about since your Volt can’t take you far from home anyway…sigh, the disadvantages of the electric car…you have my sympathies!

Domestic oil production is up under Obama ONLY because of the oil contracts signed by President Bush at the end of his second term AND because of the oil being drilled in North Dakota.  If we just look at the things Obama has done to the oil industry, oil prices would be double what they are right now!  Yes oil is sold on the world market, but if we began drilling here and drilling now, we would also begin refining here and refining now…allowing us to keep our oil at home!  Don’t just look at the left’s spin…look at the FACTS!

 Social Security’s bank account will go bust in 2022 — the first time the program’s combined trust funds will run a deficit, according to President Obama’s budget released Monday.

OBOZO can’t wait to get to the end of the lunatic-left d-cRAT socialists’ “Road to Hell” – i.e. Greece/california.

Please tell your clueless, ignorant, socialist-media-watching friends the TRUTH that the payroll tax is the ONLY funding source for Social Security and that cutting the income from the tax without compensating spending cuts directly increases the national deficit and debt, as well as further bankrupting Social Security.

The collar on his shirt is so tight it’s making his head turn black!

Hey ass wipe-Hannity’s Escalade is a hybrid….

 You do realize that the US actually EXPORTS crude oil as well as refined Gasoline to many Latin American country’s. For some reason that doesn’t seem like there is a stranglehold at all.
Perhaps what we should do is stop the exports and use the gasoline here in the states.

 For Falling321,
   So it’s wrong for tax subsidies on electric cars in 2012. But it was fine for almost 100% write offs on SUV’s in 2003. All you had to do is start a home based business and it was free. So many moms sold balloons for Birthday Party’s. Then at the end of the year they could write all of the cost of the SUV and have losses from the business.

 Depending on where you live that electric is produced by Hydroelectric Plants, Windmill Power, Nuclear Power and the cleaner burning natural gas. Oh, I forgot you don’t live on the West Coast.

 Wonder if you live in the TVA district? Hydroelectric power. And again in many places Nuclear Power.

 You do know that the Diesel the only thing that could be produced from the Oil Shale via the Pipeline would have only been for export to the European Market and China. So again. how is that going to increase OUR oil consumption?

BS. It takes $40 for me to fill the tank on my 1991 Ford Taurus. If it costs more for him, maybe he should get a different vehicle and stop blaming things on the president that have little to do with the president.

That aside… so, if $40 won’t fill up his tank, does that mean that removing $40 from his wallet is going to make the price of gas less expensive and provide him with more money to put toward not filling it up? His argument makes zero sense!

You might want to research electric and electric/hybrid vehicles. 
Also, not everyone drives far on a regular basis. I work from home and I’d never drive my beater for anything out of state. That’s why rental vehicles exist.

Actually, we use hydro power in the Pac NW, but nice try. 

 Actually for Pablo…My car has a 8.5 gallon tank, gets 35 MPG.
I could fill up the tank. And have plenty of money left over with $40.

That’s not the options before us, so what’s your point?

Just because it’s drilled here does not mean it has the legal right to stay here. Nor does it mean that the company drilling it is American.

Is being stupid patriotic now? If so, you deserve a frickin’ parade and a statue.

When the hell was it $1.89? Here in Oregon it reached $4+ under Bush. 

That aside, the president hasn’t got much to do with pump prices. You might want to do a wee bit of research about oil markets before you satisfy your addiction to bashing president Obama.

Or, keep your trash talk among your friends. Assuming you have any.

 For Pablo below.you give the example of a For Fiesta with a 12 gallon gas tank. Now, I don’t know about your car but most cars have either a red painted band on their gas gauge on the dash. Others have a nice orange-red light that comes on when we get below 20%  If you actually wait until you are on empty and are out of gas..These fuel injected cars/trucks/vans/SUV’s aren’t that easy to start with just filling the tank. Think about it….

Most people who have a 12 gallon tank are going to be filling up when they get down to about 1 gallon or more.

Hint besides filling that tank with 11 gallons, you can buy yourself a soda.

National debt increased by
75% under Bush:

2001 – $5.871 trillion
2008 – $10.640 trillion

National debt increased by 25% under Obama:

Jan 31, 2009 – $10.569 trillion
Jan 31, 2011 – $14.131 trillion

But of the $3.56 trillion increase, 98% was carry over from Bush
programs.  (Remember the Bush administration, through tricky accounting
practices, kept the costs of the wars off the national budget because they
called the war funding passed by Congress as emergency funding.)

Bush:  $910 billion = interest on debt 2009/2011
Bush:  $360 billion = Iraq war spending 2009/2011
Bush:  $319 billion = Tarp/Bailout Balance from 2008 (as of May 2010)
Bush:  $419 billion = Bush recession caused drop in taxes
Bush:  $190 billion = Bush Medicare privatization drug program 2009/2011
Bush:  $211 billion = Bush Medicare  Part D (part of Bush’s
privatization drug program) 2009/2011
Bush:  $771 billion = Bush Tax Cuts 2009/2011

Bush’s contribution:

2001 to 2008:  $4.769 trillion
2009 to 2010:  $3.181 trillion

Total:  $7.950 trillion

Increase since 2001 – $14.131 – $5.871 = $8.26 trillion

Bush’s contribution: $7.950 trillion/$8.26 trillion = 96%

Increase caused by Bush programs:  96%
Increase caused by Obama programs:  4%

Sources:
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/
http://projects.propublica.org...
http://www.minyanville.com/bus...
http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/...
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index….

I challenge you to go and find a small business owner that says “boy, I sure like to pay taxes” or “boy, I wish I wouldn’t win the lottery so I didn’t have to work.”  In order to run a business or, for that matter, collect a pay cheque, there is a certain amount of paperwork that has to be done and that amount increases as you climb the ladder of sucess.  Was the same before this President and will be the same after.

Interesting that the Hartford Financial Services Group survey indicates that only small business that consider themselves to be “very or extremely successful” are the majority that claim gov regulation and taxes affects their business (and only 20.8 % of the 458 that participated), yet of the businesses that consider themselves “moderately successful” or “not at all or slightly successful”, only 15.7% of 1542 that fell into those catagories state gov regulations and taxes affect their business.  Your clients must all be very sucessful, jefwel.

And, again, please explain how the government is going to get in the way of your effort.

Parts comes from everywhere for every car built in the world. Mine is an American Vehicle assembled by only Americans for a United States owned company.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car#Air_pollution_and_carbon_emissions

 What will happen with that ‘prized’ electric vehicle when Obama and his environmental cronies outlaw coal?

If there is a power failure lasting more than a day, how do you recharge that prize possession?

There are consequences to consider. Obama wants to ban coal and electric facilities that run on it. What happens in your ‘perfect world’ then?

 Exactly how many Volts have been sold since introduced last year? Do you know?

There were 605 sold in Jan 2012. Figure the amount of taxpayer money used to produce and tax credits given for each vehicle.

Is YOUR car really worth the $250,000 it costs the taxpayer PER vehicle?

http://www.mygovcost.org/2011/12/21/gms-chevy-volt-costs-taxpayers-250000-per-vehicle/

 Don’t you mean a “government” owned company?

One that taxpayers are on the hook for, at $250,000 per Volt?

Not having a title to the vehicle is not owning  a car either. Leasing is only a different way to finance a vehicle. Not right for everyone.

BTW- I said leasing is an option to obtain a vehicle. I never said I personally leased or not.
Just sayin’

 I didn’t realize that Al Gore, Nancy Pelousy, Michael Moore, John Edwards, John Kerry, Claire McCaskill, etc. etc. etc. (the list is endless) were Conservatives?

They not only drive SUV’s, they have private jets, yachts and other fuel eating goodies at their disposal!

“Each year, the earth’s atmosphere absorbs 3.85 million exajoules of
energy from the sun. This probably doesn’t mean anything to you, but by
comparison, the total use of electric energy (electricity) by all users
(people) on the planet is just 56.7 exajoules. This means that in just a
few hours, the earth absorbs more energy from the sun than people
expend in an entire year!”

http://solarreport.net/solar-energy-facts/

 But right wingers like YOU with a vampire-like HATRED of the Sun don’t care about that, and would rather continue to pollute the environment and line the pockets of Fossil Fuel CEO’s.

Why?

–Cobra

 Lets not forget the numerous environmental companies, with guaranteed loans, that have gone belly up!

Solyndra was given $535 million, just months before filing bankruptcy. There have been and will be others to follow.

 ”We”?  What is this “We?” stuff?  Are these Oil Refineries owned by the Federal Government or the multinational corporations?  Why is it in the best interest of multinational corporations to have “lower than market cost” products? That flies in the face of basic capitalism.

–Cobra

 Let’s not forget, while campaigning, Obama admitted that energy prices “will necessarily skyrocket!”

Its a good thing I didn’t say that.You pablum pukers would howling and whining to the ACLU.

This guys is a clown.  The ultimate double dipper.  He will get a pension from the Army and turn around and get a pension as a member of the house.  He has no room to talk about how important $40 is to the American family.  Allen why don’t you give up one of your pensions if you’re such a patriot.

I live near Buffalo  NY. How do you suggest I power that vehicle, especially in the fall, winter and spring?

Do you suggest  I only drive it in summer?

As I said, my son is an environmental attorney. Hard core environmentalist. He doesn’t drive to work, he has a solar powered home, hangs laundry outside instead of using a dryer, grows his own veggies, etc.

If he says it doesn’t work, it……..DOESN’T!

This IS Obamaos economy.
Don’t forget.Senator Obama voted for every spending project Bush had.

Geez I never thought these guys stoop so low as to pump up thier likes . Maybe thier employer likes the likes thinks he/she is getting thier moneys worth!

Hes a patriot. Serving his country his whole life. Elected to the house to stop the madness coming from Reid and Obama and following through on that every day.

Last time the debt ceiling came up I heard from Obamas own mouth that if we didnt borrow another trillion dollars from China the Social Security checks wouldnt go out.  So it seems to me maybe 2022 might be optimistic, but then those numbers come from Obamas “budget”

So anyway pay into social security for your whole life, and then hope the Chinese will cut you a check…

Its not incompetence, its misinformation. He got elected promising to stop the madness and he will get elected again.

Oh thank you Obama that 700 billion Economic Recovery Act was so great. I just got my golden parachute from Solyndra and its wonderful. I also want to thank you for funding Fast and Furious with that stimulus money.

False, we were 1.7 trillion over budget last year. Claiming te Bush card on that?

Do you have any idea what things will be like if you try to tax another 1.7 trillion out of the economy? If these numbers are too big for your mind I refer you to Stossel who broke it down real simple. Summarizing from memory, based on the 50k average salary the feds are overspending by over 10k a year with 153k in credit card debt already on the books.

Try to imagine yourself 153k in debt.

Do you think a 4 year high is impressive? In some years it would be I suppose.

Wait, is this the Osama Bin Laden thread?

What has he done for us lately? This so called Tea Party new hires in congress were to be the white knights to come up with all these cost savings ideas. Well its been over a year and the only notable thing they have done is spent a day reading the Declaration of Independents Oh by the way here is Col West

West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, “I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers.”[10] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.

This is true, we ARE against it. The idiot spent every single dime he could borrow on crap nobody wanted so now we are reduced to bickering over a “mere” 100billion dollars that we cant afford. Its actually a somewhat sensible 100billion and better than any of his spending from the 3 years previous. If this was the first thing he did it wouldnt have been a problem but he had to go and “shovel” all the money to his cronies in the unions and crappy failing green companies first..

I have already contacted my congressman AND both my senators explaining that yes, if Obama is for it, you will vote no on it or lose my vote.

Again, if Obama was about lowering taxes he should have done that trillions of dollars ago. 

Well this tax cut comes directly out of the Social Security fund, from the presidents own mouth during the last debt ceiling crisis.”If we dont raise the debt ceiling 1.2trillion dollars I cant guarantee next months social security checks will go out.”

You realize that YOU pay into social security right? Are you comfortable that the chinese who loan us cash get to decide if the checks go out? When do you retire?

Ignorant or false. This payroll tax FUNDS social security, for every 40dollars of free drugs he gives away 40 dollars will not be paid into social security.

The people wanting all the free stuff should save their money, if Obama gets reelcted I doubt ANY of these programs will last 4 years, he has an AMAZING ability to pee away money on crap.

Again, ignorant or false. Social Security is paid for by the payroll tax.

No, Neil–I like Allen West.  Perhaps I was confusing.  The “incompetence” was coming from the fellow I was commenting to.  I certainly hope he is re-elected. 

It just illustrates why its folly to target tax policy anywhere. People take advantage. Do you think if taxes are increased by half, revenue will increase by half? If you pass a yacht tax people will buy other toys.

What else can they call him, its harder to call a black man racist. When he voted against the last deal the left called him a terorist….Disgusting, a man elected by the people for the SOLE purpose of voting no on massive wasteful government spending and for voting his consciense a 20 year veteran is labeled a terrorist. War Criminal. LOL. God bless you West, but get a haircut.

Flagged for spam, thats the kind of dickheads liberals are. They dont like your well though out post, they flag it as spam in an attempt to prevent others from reding it.

WTF are you talking about?

Likewise. I drive a Honda Fit. I get around 35 MPG, give or take.

I think Pablo is still kicking himself that he bought a Hummer.

According to the “The Summary of the 2011 Annual Report”, by the Social Security and Medicare Board of Trustee’s, Social Security has enough funds available as currently managed to last until 2052.  That’s not to say either is not in need of some legislative changes.  Of both programs, the trustee’s feel that Medicare is in the most need of changes.    They do, however, see that the new health care bill enacted in 2010 will help Medicare, but  it still need some legislative changes.  The type of changes they are suggesting is along the lines of the 1983 overhaul of the programs.  They also state the earlier the changes are made, the more options that will be available to them.  Much of the noise you’re hearing now about Social Security is going broke is nothing more than a scare tactic by those who would like to see both programs go to private management.  It’s not because the government has done a poor job of managing the funds, they in fact have done a good job.  But, for what ever their reasons are, putting the funds under private management means a portion of the funds will also be lost for management fee’s.  It’s a political point that will only be help Wall Street to collect more money for themselves and less for the recipients. 

As for the new budget the President released on Monday, is nothing more than a place to start negotiating for the new fiscal year.  Republicans will also release what they want in the new budget and from there they will start of negotiations.  So really he didn’t release anything that he doesn’t think will be stand as is.  You can expect the Republicans new budget proposal will be far different then Obama’s.

If you would like to verify what I have written you can look up the trustee’s annual report for Social Security and Medicare on the internet.

Hey, I want him to take care of his soldiers too. When you are leading men into battle you can make your own choices, second guessing from the safety of your PC screen is not as hard as combat duty.

According to the “The Summary of the 2011 Annual Report”, by the Social Security and Medicare Board of Trustee’s, Social Security has enough funds available as currently managed to last until 2052.  That’s not to say either is not in need of some legislative changes.  Of both programs, the trustee’s feel that Medicare is in the most need of changes.    They do, however, see that the new health care bill enacted in 2010 will help Medicare, but  it still need some legislative changes.  The type of changes they are suggesting is along the lines of the 1983 overhaul of the programs.  They also state the earlier the changes are made, the more options that will be available to them.  Much of the noise you’re hearing now about Social Security is going broke is nothing more than a scare tactic by those who would like to see both programs go to private management.  It’s not because the government has done a poor job of managing the funds, they in fact have done a good job.  But, for what ever their reasons are, putting the funds under private management means a portion of the funds will also be lost for management fee’s.  It’s a political point that will only be help Wall Street to collect more money for themselves and less for the recipients.

As for the new budget the President released on Monday, is nothing more than a place to start negotiating for the new fiscal year.  Republicans will also release what they want in the new budget and from there they will start of negotiations.  So really he didn’t release anything that he doesn’t think will be stand as is.  You can expect the Republicans new budget proposal will be far different then Obama’s.

If you would like to verify what I have written you can look up the trustee’s annual report for Social Security and Medicare on the internet.Edit
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I dont care if he shoots every rag in ragland. he gets paid to shoot people.

Thanks for the comment.  Also, I saw that I was flagged for spam, but I wasn’t sure why.  I guess you’re right about them.  Its’ pretty typical, though.

At least he bought it with his own money… If he bought a Volt we(sorry I meant taxpayers) would have to kick in over 10k dollars…

He gets PAID to point guns at people . Its his DUTY to shoot people. He SWORE AN OATH to shoot people.

We should pass a law or something, maybe an extra tax on people who buy expensive, non-GM cars.  How dare they spend moeny they earned n things they want that you dont agre with.

Maybe we should build a giant globular solar panel around the entire earth…

Well then your welcome because the taxpayers had to chip in 10k on your POS volt.

So you buy hook, line, and sinker the Solyndra straw dog while ignoring the success that so many other green companies are having due from the recovery act.  Why don’t do a little more fact finding before you want to kill new energy technology.  And you simply just want to ignore the fact that Fast and Furious was program initiated under the Bush administration and that the failure of if was done on a lower division by rogue agents.  The Arizona Republic did an excellent in depth investigative report on this matter.  I suggest if you dare to want the truth… research it.  Or you can be continued to be manipulated by propaganda, fear, and loathing.   

Thank you Neil !!
 I really sincerely appreciate it!

I am so sick of these racists who question Obama because he is black.Allan West wants to bring back slavery and make Blacks sit on the back of the bust.

Race Card! Drinkup!

Im so tired of these stupid people like Samuel Jackson voting for Obama just cuz hes black…

Your son does it all. Why do you complain so much?

True, pretty large dose of irony, not very clever.
But what about all the bog monkeys who voted for JFK cause he was Irish? Are they rayshist too?

Madness stopping madness, somehow that makes no sense.

Football fan, go pats you pablum pukers. You have a masterful command of the language

You mean the GOP in Florida who are redrawing the district lines, those incompetents?

West is a brutal no class fascist paranoid crackpot, That is why all the rednecks & stupid teabaggers love him. Like Palin, he appeals to their aggressive peabrains

 I have a clean diesel VW Jetta and i can not fill it up for $40 …. who is the moron now…..

 Oh…so the sun doesn’t shine in the fall, winter and spring in Buffalo?  The city has transported itself above the latitude of Nome, AK?  Really?

–Cobra

what a crock

I,also,like my Fit.I get 38 mpg/tankful in the winter and 40-41mpg/tankful in the summer.Mines a 5speed,and also switched to platinum plugs,K&N air filter,and Mobil1 synthetic.LMAO!! for 450-475 miles between fill-ups and less than $500/year for comprehensive coverage insurance.Plus,the resale value will be fantastic.ALL FOR LESS THAN $40.00/FILL-UP!!!!!!!!!

Can someone tell my why this guy is a republican???  It is no secret that republicans hate black people and homosexuals and anyone who does not espouse thier twisted skewed views that do not cross paths with reality.  I cannot understand why any black man would choose to belong to a political party that hates black people so much.

By Damn,it’s starting to appear to be a repeating theme.Who would of thought?I certainly think you may be on to something here 12voltman1.SHOCKED!!!SHOCKED!!!I tell you!!

Me, too.

(And be sure to tell Pablo. I think he’s looking to replace his stretch Hummer.)

We are the American’s who will be working the new, well paying jobs in the oil industry.  We are the owners of the new refineries, preferably anyone but the federal government.  We are the American’s who will be able to purchase our fuel, whether for our homes or our vehicles, at a much lower cost.  Private industry can and will step in when government steps out.  Certainly we need enough regulation to keep the industry safe, but at this time our whole country is so over regulated that we are unable to compete in foreign markets at all levels.

“If we just look at the things Obama has done to the oil industry, oil prices would be double what they are right now!

Huh? If what ever he did kept oil prices from doubling isn’t that a good thing? Just asking……………

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