So what Colby did West say that was wrong? You have a President that is campaigning because he didn’t pass anything that was worth keeping. If you have to campaign more than a year out, that’s pretty sad politically.

Allen West is a straight talker , just like Paul Ryan .

Those two are going places .

Is he a Marxist or a Socialist? C’mon dude, define your terms and explain yourself.

HES A MARXIST SOCIALIST COMMUNIST ISLAMOFACIST ZIONIST NAZI ATHEIST DEVIL WORSHIPPER ELITIST UNEDUCATED OVEREDUCATED EAST COAST CHICAGO DEEP PAN THIN CRUST MALE FEMALE!!

WCinWI said:
So what Colby did West say that was wrong? You have a President that is campaigning because he didn’t pass anything that was worth keeping. If you have to campaign more than a year out, that’s pretty sad politically.

You haven’t paid attention to elections and election cycles in the past, have you?

Allen West has it wrong…he’s not “low level”…HE’S PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!!! He’s ‘high’- level

If hes a low level socialist agitator whats that make you flat top????…a war criminal that’s what…..as a black person im totally embarassed by n words like you…..I TRULY HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR 1 TERM IN THE HOUSE…..WHEN GRETA CONSIDERS YOU UNREASONABLE GUESS WHAT……….YOU’RE TRULY OFF THE RAILS

ProObamaAgenda said:
If hes a low level socialist agitator whats that make you flat top????…a war criminal that’s what…..as a black person im totally embarassed by n words like you…..I TRULY HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR 1 TERM IN THE HOUSE…..WHEN GRETA CONSIDERS YOU UNREASONABLE GUESS WHAT……….YOU’RE TRULY OFF THE RAILS

Racist.

I would have been proud to serve under this guy when I was in the service!! Check him out here…
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/allen-west-delivers-stern-lesson-on-dadt-repeal-isnt-the-military-rife-with-rules/

ImNotBlue said:
Racist.

Proobamabot thinks black people like himself can’t be racist. Just ask him.

Jax_n_Jill said:
I would have been proud to serve under this guy when I was in the service!! Check him out here…http://www.theblaze.com/stories/allen-west-delivers-stern-lesson-on-dadt-repeal-isnt-the-military-rife-with-rules/

right or wrong, he choose the lives of his soldiers over his career, and knew he was doing it, so yes he clearly cared very deeply for his troops

This coming from a baby killer.

West said, “I am sick and tired of this class warfare, this Marxist, demagogic rhetoric that is coming from the President of the United States of America.”

Most of us are getting tired of it too.

ProObamaAgenda said:
If hes a low level socialist agitator whats that make you flat top????…a war criminal that’s what…..as a black person im totally embarassed by n words like you…..

How comforting to know RACISM is being Kept alive by people like you!

Jax_n_Jill said:
I would have been proud to serve under this guy when I was in the service!! Check him out here…
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/allen-west-delivers-stern-lesson-on-dadt-repeal-isnt-the-military-rife-with-rules/

Allen West should be in JAIL.

“The commanding general of the 4th Infantry Division on Friday accepted a U.S. military investigator’s recommendation and ordered administrative action against Lt. Col. Allen West, who was accused of using improper methods to force information out of an Iraqi detainee.

Following a military hearing, West was fined $5,000 over two months, according to West’s civillian attorney, Neal Puckett.

The punishment does not affect West’s eligibility for retirement and pension, Puckett said in a statement.

West, 42, will be assigned to the rear detachment of the 4th Infantry Division awaiting the processing of his retirement request, the statement said….

….Maj. Gen. Raymond Odierno, the 4th Infantry’s top general in Tikrit, could have rejected the recommendation and ordered a court martial. If he were to be found guilty at a court martial of the two articles against him, West could have faced 11 years in prison, a military prosecutor told CNN.

The case stems from an incident August 20 at a military base in Taji, just north of Baghdad, when West was interrogating an Iraqi policeman, who was believed to have information about a plot to assassinate West with an ambush on a U.S. convoy.

In testimony at an Article 32 hearing — the military’s version of a grand jury or preliminary hearing — West said the policeman, Yahya Jhrodi Hamoody, was not cooperating with interrogators, so he watched four of his soldiers from the 220th Field Artillery Battalion beat the detainee on the head and body.

West said he also threatened to kill Hamoody. Military prosecutors say West followed up on that threat by taking the suspect outside, put him on the ground near a weapons clearing barrel and fired his 9 mm pistol into the barrel….

…But while West’s supporters call him a hero, military prosecutors said his actions amounted to torture and violated articles 128 and 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Prosecutor Capt. Magdalena Pezytulska said West should be tried for assault and for communicating a threat. “This is a case about a man who lost his temper,” she argued. “There are consequences for [West's] actions.”

When West testified that he had “no malice toward Hamoody” and that he “just wanted information,” Pezytulska presented a document of West’s typed statement following the August incident. She asked him to read his own written words to the court: “In my anger, I couldn’t remember how many shots were fired.”

http://articles.cnn.com/2003-12-12/us/sprj.nirq.west.ruling_1_allen-west-iraqi-detainee-military-justice?_s=PM:US

Hmmm…Greta asks about Jeremiah Wright sermons, but not about West being fined and forced to retire from the military for TORTURE? Are you kidding me?

–Cobra

It ain’t 2008 anymore, and the Obamabots are in a panic.

I think West’s trying to be nice by not calling him low “class.”

West/Ryan MIIGHT have a chance of undoing the damage Obama/Pelosi have done to this country, but it is going to be a long and painful slog to undo the damage. Carter’s looking like a great president in comparison to Obama.

We are all going to have a great time paying for $6-$7 a gallon gasoline- just like Obama predicted before he was elected. Glad he doesn’t have to pay for gas.

Jaurez said:
Proobamabot thinks black people like himself can’t be racist. Just ask him.

That would make him wrong twice… well, at least twice. It doesn’t matter what race you are, if you are prejudice against a certain race, or use racial slurs in anger, you are a racist. It’s as simple as that.

Nacho said:
This coming from a baby killer.

I always wondered what the 70s was like. Thanks for reminding us!

Isn’t it nice to see “Uncle” Allen West getting some TV time? Who would have thought with his Higher-than-the-president security clearance that he would have time to do TV interviews? I mean with reading all those classified documents that the president can’t read, making policy decisions and such. I wonder when they are erecting a statue in DC in honor of his military accomplishments…..oh wait I forgot they gave him a Court Marshall and told him not to let the door hit him on the way out.

This man is not only an embarrassment to military men and women, to african americans, but to most human beings.

“cobra” take your racist smears elsewhere. West is a hero.

Jax_n_Jill said:
I would have been proud to serve under this guy when I was in the service!! Check him out here…
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/allen-west-delivers-stern-lesson-on-dadt-repeal-isnt-the-military-rife-with-rules/

The BLAZE! WHAT a surprise!
How about this, jaxoffjill, in 1947 only 7% of the USRA wanted LCol. in THEIR Army?
Is he still Active Reserve? If so, he is disparaging a superior officer.
If YOU served, what happened to YOUR respect for the chain of command?
There is a reason the Officer Corps used to not vote.
They swear to serve the country, not a party.
No man can have two masters. If West is still active, he should resign.

Cobra said:
“Allen West should be in JAIL…………..”

–Cobra

You sir, are an idiot. But WAY beyond that, you sir, are what’s wrong with this Country.

Michael Adam said:
This man is not only an embarrassment to military men and women, to african americans, but to most human beings.

And yet Mr. Obama is blowing people into little bits, without trial, from Libya to Pakistan to Yemen to Afghanistan to Iraq. How’s that peace prize looking now?

It must be tough to be so ideologically blinkered.

Jaurez said:
“cobra” take your racist smears elsewhere. West is a hero.

A US Military court fined this “hero” $5,000 and had an option to COURT MARTIAL HIM.

Facts aren’t “smears”, tough guy.

–Cobra

WCinWI said:
So what Colby did West say that was wrong? You have a President that is campaigning because he didn’t pass anything that was worth keeping. If you have to campaign more than a year out, that’s pretty sad politically.

He made up stuff… how has Obama been a dictator? Republicans own the house, congress votes on measures… it just seems like everyday some guy comes out saying Obama is THE WORST…

Oh and Republicans “STOP TRYING TO MAKE ‘demagogue’ become a popular word to call obama.. it never will be because Republicans have dug themselves a horrible hole.

Michael Adam says:

Use fake accounts much? Loser.

At least the Democratic party doesn’t have THIRD WORLD CANDIDATES.. like the REpublicans, who have fanatical crazy people who want to make abortion illegal if you’re raped. If that isn’t an example of a third world country, I don’t know what is.

Paul G said:
You sir, are an idiot. But WAY beyond that, you sir, are what’s wrong with this Country.

“But while West’s supporters call him a hero, military prosecutors said his actions amounted to torture and violated articles 128 and 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.”

This is actually funny. I’m watching conservatives openly cheer for a Black man who admitted under oath that he broke the law.

Change has come to America!

–Cobra

Did I hear him say uppity in describing Barack Hussein Obama, I could swear I did.

Cobra is an idiot of Glackinesque proportions .

Snowspot said:
He made up stuff… how has Obama been a dictator?

How about ramming through ObamaCare, immediately followed by issuing Waivers to favored political allies?

How about attacking a country, exceeding the ‘authority’ of the UN resolution, all while completely ignoring Congress?

LOL AT PEOPLE USING WORDS THEY DON’T KNOW THE MEANING TO

HAHAHAHAHAHA

SOMEONE BUY THIS GUY A DICTIONARY

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Cobra said:
“But while West’s supporters call him a hero, military prosecutors said his actions amounted to torture and violated articles 128 and 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.”

This is actually funny. I’m watching conservatives openly cheer for a Black man who admitted under oath that he broke the law.

Change has come to America!

–Cobra

You just proved my point. Change your name.(if you are gonna keep posting here) You sir, are an idiot.

Jaurez said:
Proobamabot thinks black people like himself can’t be racist. Just ask him.

So let me ask Proobamabot, who in the video below are the true racists?
And who should rightly be charged with a Hate Crime?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec0_1303444048

Only a Leftist would decide that only racist here is the woman on the floor,
and certainly NOT the 2 vicious ‘b*tches; –only because they happen to be black and thus must be blameless..

Black and Gold Brad said:
How about ramming through ObamaCare, immediately followed by issuing Waivers to favored political allies?

How about attacking a country, exceeding the ‘authority’ of the UN resolution, all while completely ignoring Congress?

You don’t even get it yet. Obamacare helps people GET health insurance.
RYANcare, which just passed in the GOP House will end Medicare and Medicaid as we know it.

And that’s just fine with you, right? Because if a Republican does something, it’s gotta be right?

–Cobra

Cobra said:
Change has come to America!

Sure has. We’re now embroiled in yet another civil war in the ME. Change, Baby!

Gitmo is still open. Change, Baby!

Economy still in the dump. Change, Baby!

Bush tax cuts are the devils work, until Obama extended them. Change, Baby!

Patriot Act is fundamentally UnAmerican, until Obama extended them. Change, Baby!

Cobra said:
You don’t even get it yet. Obamacare helps people GET health insurance.

So … … those 1200 Waivers are helping people ‘get’ insurance? Mind explaining that?

Black and Gold Brad said:
How about ramming through ObamaCare, immediately followed by issuing Waivers to favored political allies?

How about attacking a country, exceeding the ‘authority’ of the UN resolution, all while completely ignoring Congress?

How about ignoring the General Motors bondholders’ LEGAL rights? How about using the NLRB to target Boeing on behalf of Richard Trumpka and his thugs? This administration is the most corrupt in history and consistently flouts the laws of the country. Good thing Obama was just a LECTURER in Constitutional Law, not a professor, ’cause he sure as heck isn’t conversant with the document.

Cobra said:
This is actually funny. I’m watching conservatives openly cheer for a Black man who admitted under oath that he broke the law.

Not only that, he turned himself in. But first, he saved some of his men’s lives before he fell on his sword. The guy’s got balls, and something else you’ll never understand: honor.

Cobra said:
You don’t even get it yet. Obamacare helps people GET health insurance.you, right? Because if a ? –Cobra

you dont even get it yet. obamacare makes people buy health insurance

auzerais310 said:
So let me ask Proobamabot, who in the video below are the true racists?
And who should rightly be charged with a Hate Crime?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec0_1303444048

Only a Leftist would decide that only racist here is the woman on the floor,
and certainly NOT the 2 vicious ‘b*tches; –only because they happen to be black and thus must be blameless..

No, no, no…Allen West has proven that Blacks are not only allowed to commit crimes, but will get the cheering support of conservatives as long as they are Republicans.

–Cobra

cjd ohio 1 said:
you dont even get it yet. obamacare makes people buy health insurance

Finish the sentence….People who couldn’t buy it BEFORE the legislation, based upon pre-existing conditions, or cost.

–Cobra

Black and Gold Brad said:
So … … those 1200 Waivers are helping people ‘get’ insurance? Mind explaining that?

Quit asking this idiot questions. He’s sitting in a cubicle for $3 an hour and thinks he’s ‘smart’. He’s got to change his diapers an hour or two.

Bill Huggins said:
Is he a Marxist or a Socialist? C’mon dude, define your terms and explain yourself.

HES A MARXIST SOCIALIST COMMUNIST ISLAMOFACIST ZIONIST NAZI ATHEIST DEVIL WORSHIPPER ELITIST UNEDUCATED OVEREDUCATED EAST COAST CHICAGO DEEP PAN THIN CRUST MALE FEMALE!!

You forgot “thug”, Bill. And “grifter”.

Cobra said:
Finish the sentence….People who couldn’t buy it BEFORE the legislation, based upon pre-existing conditions, or cost. –Cobra

read the bill, everyone haves to buy health insurance……………not just people who couldn’t………..everyone

Cobra said:
No, no, no…Allen West has proven that Blacks are not only allowed to commit crimes, but will get the cheering support of conservatives as long as they are Republicans.

–Cobra

Meanwhile, you’re rooting for the jihadis, right Darren?

Cobra said:
Finish the sentence….People who couldn’t buy it BEFORE the legislation, based upon pre-existing conditions, or cost.

–Cobra

Dummy, what about the millions of people who don’t pay taxes and don’t have the money for the “mandate?”

Black and Gold Brad said:
How about ramming through ObamaCare, immediately followed by issuing Waivers to favored political allies?

How about attacking a country, exceeding the ‘authority’ of the UN resolution, all while completely ignoring Congress?

I’m more worried about Obama’s math skills:

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2011/04/22/obama-im-only-a-quarter-of-the-way-through-my-time-in-office/

Cobra said:
Finish the sentence….People who couldn’t buy it BEFORE the legislation, based upon pre-existing conditions, or cost.
–Cobra

Would you mind pointing to a single instance of insurance cost going down since the passage of ObamaCare?

Bill Huggins says:

Hey, where’s your brother, dildo buggins?

Michael Adam said:
Isn’t it nice to see “Uncle” Allen West getting some TV time?

Is he your mother’s brother or your father’s, Michael?

Cobra said:
No, no, no…Allen West has proven that Blacks are not only allowed to commit crimes, but will get the cheering support of conservatives as long as they are Republicans.

–Cobra

You’re just mad a African-American escaped the Democratic Plantation. You are the most racist person on this site . That is all .

Have a great Easter Weekend everybody !

Black and Gold Brad said:
Would you mind pointing to a single instance of insurance cost going down since the passage of ObamaCare?

My rates have almost doubled and many people got dropped or had to drop because they couldn’t afford the massive increase.

“Change!”

cjd ohio 1 said:
you dont even get it yet. obamacare makes people buy health insurance

Or pay a fine – which is not insurance. :)

cjd ohio 1 said:
read the bill, everyone haves to buy health insurance……………not just people who couldn’t………..everyone

Don’t that illegals are exempt

If “obamacare” was so great Obama would have made the law go into effect immediately not after 2012. Kind of a nobrainer.

community organizer = ‘Low-Level Socialist Agitator’

Black and Gold Brad said:
Sure has. We’re now embroiled in yet another civil war in the ME. Change, Baby!

Gitmo is still open. Change, Baby!

Economy still in the dump. Change, Baby!

Bush tax cuts are the devils work, until Obama extended them. Change, Baby!

Patriot Act is fundamentally UnAmerican, until Obama extended them. Change, Baby!

You named 5 things. Some wrong.
Obama signed and executive order to close Gitmo. Congress failed to close it.
The Economy is no longer in recession.
“# 4th quarter 2010: +3.1 percent
# 3rd quarter 2010: +2.6 percent ”

But yeah…you want to go back to BUSH numbers, right?
“4th quarter 2008: -6.2 percent
3rd quarter 2008: -0.5 percent”

You want DADT back? You want pre-Lilly Ledbetter uequal wages for women? You want ALL the troops still in Iraq instead of the draw down that happened?

Of course. Because Republicans said so.

–Cobra

Cobra said:
A US Military court fined this “hero” $5,000 and had an option to COURT MARTIAL HIM.

Facts aren’t “smears”, tough guy.

–Cobra

A court did not fine him and a court did not have an option to court martial him. If you’re going to copy and paste, try mixing a little reading into your process, Darren. See Gen. Odierno in there? OK, now think real hard…

TeaPartyPatriot said:
community organizer = ‘Low-Level Socialist Agitator’

Community organizer = Jesus

Jaurez said:
My rates have almost doubled and many people got dropped or had to drop because they couldn’t afford the massive increase.

“Change!”

You LOVE Big Insurance. Those guys are rich, “job creatin’” CEO’s. You should be HAPPY to pay them whatever they charge. You’re a conservative, aren’t you?

–Cobra

A torturer commenting on the POTUS’s character …. That is OBSCENE!

Oh, Jeezus, here he goes with the “lilly ledbetter” crap. LOL!

Cobra said:
You LOVE Big Insurance. Those guys are rich, “job creatin’” CEO’s. You should be HAPPY to pay them whatever they charge. You’re a conservative, aren’t you?

–Cobra

When you can’t refute, divert. Olbyloon rule number 1.

ImNotBlue said:
Racist.

lol….are you mad cause i can call west that and you cant????….screw him and you too….that sorry black bastard is going nowhere…when push comes to a shove you wont vote for the gun slanger either….so stop pretending that you would support anybody black for president……crossburning asswipes like you have been exposed for what you are…..pieces of shit…the same as you cave dwelling assholes have been since monkeys first shitted you out

Cobra said:
You LOVE Big Insurance. Those guys are rich, “job creatin’” CEO’s. You should be HAPPY to pay them whatever they charge. You’re a conservative, aren’t you? –Cobra

Insurance company profit margins are about 9%, there are probably what, 30 Health Insurance company CEO’s tops? The obscene cost is the health care itself. You morons don’t even understand where the problem lies, in the delivery and cost of the CARE.

Allen says what he feels and won’t be intimidated into backing down. I love this guy. Oh wait, I forgot I’m a racist and not supposed to like him. What a quandary.

ProObamaAgenda said:
lol….are you mad cause i can call west that and you cant????…

No, you’re a scumbag. No free skin color based passes here, dirtbag. Get a job already.

Cobra said:
Allen West should be in JAIL.

“The commanding general of the 4th Infantry Division on Friday accepted a U.S. military investigator’s recommendation and ordered administrative action against Lt. Col. Allen West, who was accused of using improper methods to force information out of an Iraqi detainee.

Hmmm…Greta asks about Jeremiah Wright sermons, but not about West being fined and forced to retire from the military for TORTURE? Are you kidding me?

torture, my ass… what he did was fight a war as it should be fought, in order to win… as opposed to the current rules of engagement calling for tying one or both hands behind his back, not offending the enemy and prosecuting a war as you would a sensitivity outreach program… if anyone should be in jail it’s the joint chiefs for allowing this bullcrap to further endanger our servicemen’s lives who are already in harm’s way…

are you kidding me, indeed…

Jaurez said:
Oh, Jeezus, here he goes with the “lilly ledbetter” crap. LOL!

Good Lord, “Lily Ledbetter” was nothing more than a payback to the TORT BAR.

Jaurez said:
When you can’t refute, divert. Olbyloon rule number 1.

Notice he doesn’t disagree. Just attacks the messenger.

Second, there’s a poster here, who claims to be ex-law enforcement who writes fantasies on this blog about beating minorities in alleys. I refuse to interact with that poster anymore. But in the interest of TRUTH:

“West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, “I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers.”[citation needed] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.[11] LTC West accepted the judgment and retired with full benefits in the summer of 2004. ”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_West_%28politician%29

–Cobra

Jaurez said:
Proobamabot thinks black people like himself can’t be racist. Just ask him.

well since you made STUPID a race , i guess i am racist…..I HATE STUPID A-HOLES with a passion

Alice67 said:
A torturer commenting on the POTUS’s character …. That is OBSCENE!

Uhhh, your POTUS is bombing the living shit out of brown people in Libya at this moment, all on his own. His idea. He’s also just authorized the use of drones as of today, just like he’s using in Afghanistan to kill brown people. He’s kept in place rendition and GITMO.

Do you now see the fallacy of your argument???

I’ll give you disciples credit for being loyal, he could lop off somebody’s head on national tv and you’d deny it.

Clearly, Allen West is a racist. I wonder why he hates black people.

That Rep. West, what a freakin’ statesman. LMAO!

Cobra said:
Notice he doesn’t disagree. Just attacks the messenger. Second, there’s a poster here, who claims to be ex-law enforcement who writes fantasies on this blog about beating minorities in alleys. I refuse to interact with that poster anymore. But in the interest of TRUTH: “West was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. During a hearing held as part of an Article 32 investigation in November 2003, West stated, “I know the method I used was not right, but I wanted to take care of my soldiers.”[citation needed] The charges were ultimately referred to an Article 15 proceeding rather than court-martial, at which West was fined $5,000.[11] LTC West accepted the judgment and retired with full benefits in the summer of 2004. ” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_West_%28politician%29 –Cobra

article 15= non judicial punishment

Alice67 said:
A torturer commenting on the POTUS’s character …. That is OBSCENE!

You are the clowns running a “torturer”. Any way the wind blows, eh, libclown? You people have no standards, morals or ethics.

Unreal: Texas Democrats Want To Run Abu Ghraib General For Senate</blockquote.

http://thehayride.com/2011/04/unreal-texas-democrats-want-to-run-abu-ghraib-general-for-senate/

Emma said:
That Rep. West, what a freakin’ statesman. LMAO!

I bet his wife is proud of America. LMAO.

QUIT REPLYING TO COBRA!!! He’ll go away. He’s an idiot.

Lt. Colonel West did the right thing to protect his troops and accepted responsibility. If any of you on the Left even understood the concepts of HONOR, DUTY, and COURAGE, I might consider your opinion. The Left tries to hogtie the military at every turn, but are perfectly happy to have DRONES drop bombs (not exactly a “targeted” response) and have others fight their battles. Like our president, you’re cowards.

Man you libs sure do hate a black man that don’t step & fetch for y’all.

TillieGlockenspiel said:
Good Lord, “Lily Ledbetter” was nothing more than a payback to the TORT BAR.

Such a model business climate makes any entrepreneur’s heart long to create wealth in America.

ndanielson said:
Such a model business climate makes any entrepreneur’s heart long to create wealth in America.

You may remember Alice67 better , as ellie.

allan west has penis envy LOL! and with that 80s hairstyle he needs his head examined!

Black and Gold Brad said:
How about ramming through ObamaCare, immediately followed by issuing Waivers to favored political allies?

How about attacking a country, exceeding the ‘authority’ of the UN resolution, all while completely ignoring Congress?

i guess if you think “ramming” takes 18 months, a house majority and a super majority (60 votes) in the Senate to get done….and i hardly think McDonalds is a Obama supporter…..

In order to avoid disruption in the insurance market, the healthcare overhaul gives HHS the power to grant waivers to firms that cannot meet new annual coverage limits in 2011. The waivers have typically been granted to so-called “mini-med” plans that offer limited annual coverage — as low as $2,000 — that would fall short of meeting the new annual coverage floor of $750,000 in 2011.

“We don’t want to take away people’s health insurance before they have some realistic other choices,” HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said in an interview with The Hill earlier this year.

THATS THE REASON DIPSHIT…..hardly a move to apease so called allies…..you should be happy….Obama is keeping you insured till your burger flippin career is over

Snowspot said:
At least the Democratic party doesn’t have THIRD WORLD CANDIDATES.. like the REpublicans, who have fanatical crazy people who want to make abortion illegal if you’re raped. If that isn’t an example of a third world country, I don’t know what is.

apparently, there is no such thing as a pro-life democrat…

timzank said:
Insurance company profit margins are about 9%, there are probably what, 30 Health Insurance company CEO’s tops? The obscene cost is the health care itself. You morons don’t even understand where the problem lies, in the delivery and cost of the CARE.

” * Aetna, Ronald A. Williams: $24,300,112
* Cigna, H. Edward Hanway: $12,236,740
* Coventry, Dale Wolf: $9,047,469
* Health Net, Jay Gellert: $4,425,355
* Humana, Michael McCallister: $4,764,309
* U. Health Group, Stephen J. Hemsley: $3,241,042
* Wellpoint, Angela Braly: $9,844,212″

You want us to WEEP and CRY for these folks, Timzank? Profit margins? What’s the business model for Health Insurance? “Sick people aren’t profitable.” That’s why a “for profit” industry regarding health care is immoral on its supposition.

MASSMURDERMEDIA said:
torture, my ass… what he did was fight a war as it should be fought, in order to win… as opposed to the current rules of engagement calling for tying one or both hands behind his back, not offending the enemy and prosecuting a war as you would a sensitivity outreach program… if anyone should be in jail it’s the joint chiefs for allowing this bullcrap to further endanger our servicemen’s lives who are already in harm’s way…

are you kidding me, indeed…

What was the objective of the Iraq War again, big guy? Who was the “enemy?” Do you think the Iraq War was “won” because we replaced a Sunni Leader backed by Arabs with a Shia leader backed by Iranians?
We had NO BUSINESS BEING IN IRAQ IN THE FIRST PLACE.

And with Greta’s praising West for cutting $30 Billion from the budget, where was Greta for the past 8 years?

“# FY2003 Supplemental: Operation Iraqi Freedom: Passed April 2003; Total $78.5 billion, $54.4 billion Iraq War
# FY2004 Supplemental: Iraq and Afghanistan Ongoing Operations/Reconstruction: Passed November 2003; Total $87.5 billion, $70.6 billion Iraq War
# FY2004 DoD Budget Amendment: $25 Emergency Reserve Fund (Iraq Freedom Fund): Passed July 2004, Total $25 billion, $21.5 billion (estimated) Iraq War
# FY2005 Emergency Supplemental: Operations in the War on Terror; Activities in Afghanistan; Tsunami Relief: Passed April 2005, Total $82 billion, $58 billion (estimated) Iraq War
# FY2006 Department of Defense appropriations: Total $50 billion, $40 billion (estimated) Iraq War.
# FY2006 Emergency Supplemental: Operations Global War on Terror; Activities in Iraq & Afghanistan: Passed February 2006, Total $72.4 billion, $60 billion (estimated) Iraq War
# FY2007 Department of Defense appropriations: $70 billion(estimated) for Iraq War-related costs[4][5]
# FY2007 Emergency Supplemental (proposed) $100 billion
# FY2008 Bush administration has proposed around $190 billion for the Iraq War and Afghanistan[6]”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_cost_of_the_Iraq_War

ProObamaAgenda said:
when push comes to a shove you wont vote for the gun slanger either….so stop pretending that you would support anybody black for president…

President? LOL! My brother, these right wingers would have West profiled and harassed by police if he drove through their town at night. He’s just the latest GOP minstrel show in the theater, just like Alan Keyes.

–Cobra

ndanielson said:
You are the clowns running a “torturer”. Any way the wind blows, eh, libclown? You people have no standards, morals or ethics.

Hard to believe, isn’t it? My candidate is Michael Williams- he’ll be an outstanding Senator (though I am really not fond of his bow ties), he’s extremely smart, has run the Texas Railroad Commission (which is the state entity that deals with oil and gas in Texas), a lawyer and a real Conservative. Williams will make mincemeat of Sanchez.

My Congressman Allen West makes O’Bambi look like a pre-menstrual child who takes his ball and goes home after the going gets rough. Barkey wouldn’t make a pimple on a PFC’s scrotum.

Cobra said:
” * What’s the business model for Health Insurance? “Sick people aren’t profitable.” That’s why a “for profit” industry regarding health care is immoral on its supposition. s. –Cobra

is the food industry is immoral too? how about real estate(homes), the water works? all for profit, are they immoral too?

Good for No Labels for “throwing a yellow flag” to Allen West over what he said (a yellow flag from No Labels is a statement of condemnation for what a person has said or done that is hyper-partisan and it applies to members of both parties when it is deserved):

http://nolabels.org/blog/no-labels-throws-yellow-flag-rep-allen-west/

No Labels Throws a Yellow Flag on Rep. Allen West

Today. Posted by No Labels.

Mitch Dworkin
Dallas, Texas

me2010 said:
and yeah I served so I can talk !

French fries don’t count.

ProObamaAgenda said:
i guess if you think “ramming” takes 18 months, a house majority and a super majority (60 votes) in the Senate to get done…

If you think it got 60 votes in the Senate, you’re a moron.

Love it. BO, I will never again address him by the title he so loves to remind everyone of, is a LOW LIFE SOCIALIST AGITATOR.

He’s a scrawny little rich kid who has hired and loyal muscle and brains to do his bidding. He’s never paid for a GD thing himself and has no understanding of the value, or devalue, of money and knows not what effort is or how easily that effort is destroyed by redistributing it arbitrarily.

I ‘hope’ he and his fellow usurpers learn from their mistakes the hard way and are made to sacrifice as their poor decisions have made others sacrifice.

Mitch Dworkin said:
Good for No Labels for “throwing a yellow flag” to Allen West over what he said (a yellow flag from No Labels is a statement of condemnation for what a person has said or done that is hyper-partisan and it applies to members of both parties when it is deserved):

http://nolabels.org/blog/no-labels-throws-yellow-flag-rep-allen-west/

No Labels Throws a Yellow Flag on Rep. Allen West

Today. Posted by No Labels.

Mitch Dworkin
Dallas, Texas

Given that the DEMOCRAT political consultant, Mark McKinnon, is one of the leaders of the “No Labels” crowd, I’m not impressed. I’m red carding them- fencing term, in case you care.

ProObamaAgenda said:
lol….are you mad cause i can call west that and you cant????….screw him and you too….that sorry black bastard is going nowhere…when push comes to a shove you wont vote for the gun slanger either….so stop pretending that you would support anybody black for president……crossburning asswipes like you have been exposed for what you are…..pieces of shit…the same as you cave dwelling assholes have been since monkeys first shitted you out

Pick up your Racist Rants and go home….you are not welcome here.

ProObamaAgenda said:
HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said in an interview with The Hill earlier this year.

Recall her as the very good and enabling friend to Tiller the baby killer. The left’s heroes are such top notch, Americans, are they not? No wonder his wife was never proud of America. Look at the people they choose as friends! Tax cheats, race baiters, Al Sharpton, marxists, Van Jones, leftists celebrate and promote cowards like the lion of the senate, Ted Kennedy, serial adulterers, disgraced judges like Alcee Hastings, Rangel, Waters, Barney Frank, the first First Lady to ever be criminally indicted. Abu Grahib torturers…

–Cobra LOL, clown.

timzank said:
Uhhh, your POTUS is bombing the living shit out of brown people in Libya at this moment, all on his own.

It is NATO forces …. as much as you want to blame the Kenyan, Mau Mau, Socialist, Marxist, Fascist, racist, Nazi for everything. And I wish we would get out of every one of these wars. Do’t confuse my unwavering support for Obama with strong support, I’m just adamantly opposed to ANYTHING Republican.

cjd ohio 1 said:
is the food industry is immoral too? how about real estate(homes), the water works? all for profit, are they immoral too?

In your examples the industries do not cut you off for using their service.

If you buy a house, pay for a house, and then move into the house – all good.

If you buy an apple, and then eat the apple – all good.

If you pay your utility bill and use the utility – all good.

If you pay into insurance and then get sick and need to use it – NOT GOOD. Insurance companies fight like hell to drop you from their policies and deny your care. It is how those CEOs make those fat pay checks. Health should not be a “for profit” industry. It is a sickening concept.

cjd ohio 1 said:
is the food industry is immoral too? how about real estate(homes), the water works? all for profit, are they immoral too?

The Food Industry doesn’t deny you the opportunity to buy food just because you’re hungry.
The Real Estate Industry doesn’t deny you the opportunity to buy a home just because you don’t currently have one.
The Water Works doesn’t deny you water just because you’re thirsty.
You just have to have the means to pay for all the above.

That’s NOT the case with Health Insurance.

–Cobra

BatBoy said:
Pick up your Racist Rants and go home….you are not welcome here.

Batboy, I don’t hear you lecturing Gordon Blower or Notsofast when THEY race bait 24-7 in here. Why do you make the exception with Black posters?

–Cobra

cjd ohio 1 said:
is the food industry is immoral too? how about real estate(homes), the water works? all for profit, are they immoral too?

Cobra thinks anything that makes a profit is wrong. Cobra believes the magic unicorns will supply us all with love and skittles and money falls from the government sky to shared by all. In other words, Cobra (like most marxists) lives in an alternate reality.

Cobra said:
Batboy, I don’t hear you lecturing Gordon Blower or Notsofast when THEY race bait 24-7 in here. Why do you make the exception with Black posters? –Cobra

If you’re black, why yo be hatin’ on brother West?

Timothy Wright said:
In your examples the industries do not cut you off for using their service. If you buy a house, pay for a house, and then move into the house – all good. If you buy an apple, and then eat the apple – all good. If you pay your utility bill and use the utility – all good. If you pay into insurance and then get sick and need to use it – NOT GOOD. Insurance companies fight like hell to drop you from their policies and deny your care. It is how those CEOs make those fat pay checks. Health should not be a “for profit” industry. It is a sickening concept.

you got a good point with the dropping of coverage, and yes it needs to be addressed, which after the heart attack i did not have a problem with my insurance, (and still have the same company), but immoral for profit, no ,its not unless all other industries you need to survive are to

Cobra said:
The Food Industry doesn’t deny you the opportunity to buy food just because you’re hungry.The Real Estate Industry doesn’t deny you the opportunity to buy a home just because you don’t currently have one.The Water Works doesn’t deny you water just because you’re thirsty.You just have to have the means to pay for all the above. That’s NOT the case with Health Insurance. –Cobra

the means to pay

Cobra said:
Batboy, I don’t hear you lecturing Gordon Blower or Notsofast when THEY race bait 24-7 in here. Why do you make the exception with Black posters? –Cobra

you do hear me, also call out rush when a article is posted

timzank said:
Insurance company profit margins are about 9%, there are probably what, 30 Health Insurance company CEO’s tops? The obscene cost is the health care itself. You morons don’t even understand where the problem lies, in the delivery and cost of the CARE.

The overhead for Medicare Insurance is about 3%. Overhead for private insurance is over 30%.
What do YOU want Grandma to pay for? Gulfstream-5′s so the execs can make their tee-times?

Progressives don’t understand the concept of insurance plain and simple. Insurance companies are just a “bogey man” for progressives.

Why does an MRI cost $2,000? Why does a heart operation cost $50,000? It ain’t got a damn thing to do with health insurance and everything to do with litigation and regulation. The very entity you are looking to for salvation (the u.s. government) is what caused health care to soar.

Idiots. Fu*king idiots.

Joseph Glackin said:
The overhead for Medicare Insurance is about 3%. Overhead for private insurance is over 30%.What do YOU want Grandma to pay for? Gulfstream-5’s so the execs can make their tee-times?

That 3% figure is absolute bullshit. There isn’t a government agency in existence that is efficient and cost effective. NOT ONE. That “overhead” figure is a manufactured fallacy.

Joseph Glackin said:
The overhead for Medicare Insurance is about 3%. Overhead for private insurance is over 30%.What do YOU want Grandma to pay for? Gulfstream-5’s so the execs can make their tee-times?

medicare also turns down the highest percentage of procedures

timzank said:
That 3% figure is absolute bullshit. There isn’t a government agency in existence that is efficient and cost effective. NOT ONE. That “overhead” figure is a manufactured fallacy.

I am glad you feel that way about the US military.

Will you now start demanding immediate withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan?

HEY WINGNUTTS….PRESIDENT OBAMA JUST SAID THAT NANCY PELOSI WILL RETURN TO THE HOUSE SPEAKERS POSITION…….WHAT YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT?????…IF THATS NOT CALLING YOUR SORRY ASSES OUT I DONT KNOW WHAT IS…..A BOLD CCHALLENGE…….HE SAID YALL SUCK AND ITS TIME FOR BOEHNER TO GET THE HELL OFF THE THRONE….HEHEHEHEHEHEH….HE AINT SCARED OF YOU FREAKS….ITS TIME TO GET FIRED UP AND READY TO GO….YES WE CAN AND ALL THAT SHIT….BIOTCHEES

Only democrats could believe you can take an existing insurance (risk) pool, drop in 30 million more cliamants and the price will go down.

You people have minds that are seriously flawed, there is no other answer.

TillieGlockenspiel said:
Hard to believe, isn’t it? My candidate is Michael Williams- he’ll be an outstanding Senator (though I am really not fond of his bow ties), he’s extremely smart, has run the Texas Railroad Commission (which is the state entity that deals with oil and gas in Texas), a lawyer and a real Conservative. Williams will make mincemeat of Sanchez.

He’s mine, too. I met him in his office last year. He’s been a great RRC Commissioner.

About time the truth is spoken loud and clear about our undocumented community organizer.

Cobra said:
What was the objective of the Iraq War again, big guy? Who was the “enemy?” Do you think the Iraq War was “won” because we replaced a Sunni Leader backed by Arabs with a Shia leader backed by Iranians?
We had NO BUSINESS BEING IN IRAQ IN THE FIRST PLACE.

the ostensible objective was finding wmd’s, deposing a ruthless dictator, establishing freedom, blah-blah-blah… you know, i know, everyone with half a brain knows why we’re there, in afghanistan and libya: oil… yeah, dubya and rummy definitely screwed the pooch with regard to the players in the region and their respective roles…

oh, and btw, wtf does any of that have to do with west’s actions in iraq?… as i recall, he wasn’t sitting at the united nations displaying a little vial of anthrax getting the world hyped to kick some ass… he was a soldier putting his ass at risk on the front lines… you should run for office, big guy, since you’re so good at non-responsive talking points…

cjd ohio 1 said:
That’s NOT the case with Health Insurance. –Cobra

Insurance is not a commodity, it is an indemnity, or a promise to incur the losses of another from the occurrence of an UNCERTAIN event.

If you are CERTAIN that you will incur a loss, then it is not INSURANCE, it is a PLAN, which is a commodity. Insurance is much cheaper than a plan because the Insurer does a good job of assessing the RISK. There is no RISK in a PLAN, so therefor the PLAN is priced at the foreseen cost plus administration.

Let me guess Cobra, you went to a Government school and got little if no instruction at home or on your own. Pity. Pity that we have to endure the votes of anthropogenic idiots.

The problem with ‘Insurance’ today is that it is a Blend of Insurance (indemnity) and a Plan (commodity). Since Gov’t forces “Insurance’ carriers to provide CERTAIN events to be covered, the Carriers have to price their coverage as if they were Planned Events.

It is high time losers and idiots lose their great influence (voting the wealth/efforts of others into their pockets) over those that have earned their own wealth. Life is not easy nor supposed to be, especially for those who do not know the difference between Insurance and Plans.

Skippy said:
I am glad you feel that way about the US military. Will you now start demanding immediate withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan?

I have no problem with that anymore. Bring them home. I’m becoming more isolationist, kind of ironic, as liberals are all of the sudden in favor of bombing the sh*t out brown skinned countries and nation building in the middleast.

Square that circle.

theendisfar said:
Insurance is not a commodity, it is an indemnity, or a promise to incur the losses of another from the occurrence of an UNCERTAIN event.

If you are CERTAIN that you will incur a loss, then it is not INSURANCE, it is a PLAN, which is a commodity. Insurance is much cheaper than a plan because the Insurer does a good job of assessing the RISK. There is no RISK in a PLAN, so therefor the PLAN is priced at the foreseen cost plus administration.

Let me guess Cobra, you went to a Government school and got little if no instruction at home or on your own. Pity. Pity that we have to endure the votes of anthropogenic idiots.

The problem with ‘Insurance’ today is that it is a Blend of Insurance (indemnity) and a Plan (commodity). Since Gov’t forces “Insurance’ carriers to provide CERTAIN events to be covered, the Carriers have to price their coverage as if they were Planned Events.

It is high time losers and idiots lose their great influence (voting the wealth/efforts of others into their pockets) over those that have earned their own wealth. Life is not easy nor supposed to be, especially for those who do not know the difference between Insurance and Plans.

So, you sell insurance?

timzank said:
I have no problem with that anymore. Bring them home. I’m becoming more isolationist, kind of ironic, as liberals are all of the sudden in favor of bombing the sh*t out brown skinned countries and nation building in the middleast.

Square that circle.

Have you ever heard of this little thing called NATO and the United Nations?

Snowspot said:
(H)ow has Obama been a dictator?

Recently he got us involved in a war in Libya without Congressional approval or even consulting members of Congress from either party. That’s the kind of unilateral move a dictator makes. And the way he parcelled out the space shuttles. How is NYC more connected to the space program than Houston, where all our old launch vehicles and capsules are on display at NASA? The Dictator giveth and taketh away. Texas is a GOP state. He insists on spending money the government clearly doesn’t have, kind of like a dictator would do. And almost two thirds of the country doesn’t want the health care bill. I’m sure the poster was being somewhat figurative, but do get the point? You should go to some mainstream news websites as much as or more than you come here to post.

Skippy said:
Have you ever heard of this little thing called NATO and the United Nations?

and your point?

Cobra said:
Batboy, I don’t hear you lecturing Gordon Blower or Notsofast when THEY race bait 24-7 in here. Why do you make the exception with Black posters? –Cobra

Here is how I define Racism….
ProObamaAgenda says:

…are you mad cause i can call west that and you cant????….
…that sorry black bastard is going nowhere
…so stop pretending that you would support anybody black for president
…crossburning asswipes like you have been exposed for what you are
…the same as you cave dwelling assholes have been since monkeys first shitted you out

Show me something similar with the people you mentioned.

Till then, I hope your ProObama picks you up and gets you out of here too!
You guys are all about stiring up Hate….that is your gig…not ours.

cjd ohio 1 said:
and your point?

Not my point, YOUR point.

You are stating that “liberals are all of the sudden in favor of bombing the sh*t out brown skinned countries and nation building in the middleast.”

Are you going to rephrase that or are you going to leave such stupidity stand?

Skippy said:
Not my point, YOUR point. You are stating that “liberals are all of the sudden in favor of bombing the sh*t out brown skinned countries and nation building in the middleast.” Are you going to rephrase that or are you going to leave such stupidity stand?

not my point, i was just asking a question. read who’s comments addressed that, and watch the stupidity comments as it appears you dont pay attention

From the article:

“I am sick and tired of this class warfare, this Marxist, demagogic rhetoric that is coming from the President of the United States of America.”

So am I, Congressman West. So am I and I suspect quite a number of others.

timzank said:
I have no problem with that anymore. Bring them home. I’m becoming more isolationist, kind of ironic, as liberals are all of the sudden in favor of bombing the sh*t out brown skinned countries and nation building in the middleast.

Square that circle.

Did you write this?

Skippy said:
So, you sell insurance?

I wish, well, not really. No, I’m a Systems Architect and have a habit of looking for the mission(s) of organizations since my job is to help them achieve that mission in the most efficient and effective way.

Insurance is a small fee to cover a disaster, as soon as carriers introduced prevention, it became a plan, which they charge for and charge to administer. Not saying that is unwise/wise or unwanted/wanted for/by the customers, just pointing it out.

When Gov’t can come in at any point and force additional CERTAIN events, then the carrier must charge an additional fee to stave off losses that are sure to come around the corner when Gov’t do-gooders start paving the road to hell with good intentions. In the end, the carrier will always win, just like the House does in gambling.

Our Right to Life is not a RIGHT to indemnity nor central planning including health. In fact, our rights give us security from central planning (aka Socialism).

Skippy said:
Did you write this?

timzank did. i didn’t

this website is very good, you can go and see it

http://www.shoes4world.com/

cjd ohio 1 said:
timzank did. i didn’t

Oh, sorry.

I got you mixed because you answered when I was addressing TIMZANK.

So, you asked me to elaborate on what I was pointing out to TIMZANK. In other words, that US military intervention in Libya is part of a NATO operation authorized by the U.N.

NOT as TIMZANK said, because “liberals are all of the sudden in favor of bombing the sh*t out brown skinned countries and nation building in the middleast.”

aamom said:
:

Nice Obama avatar. :)

ROFLMAO…a Repube backbencher chiding Obama’s “demagoguery” while being a demagogue himself. Priceless!

Skippy said:
Oh, sorry. I got you mixed because you answered when I was addressing TIMZANK. So, you asked me to elaborate on what I was pointing out to TIMZANK. In other words, that US military intervention in Libya is part of a NATO operation authorized by the U.N. NOT as TIMZANK said, because “liberals are all of the sudden in favor of bombing the sh*t out brown skinned countries and nation building in the middleast.”

no problem, but the order was united nations, then the US, UK, France, then nato took over control, myself i think we should have just stayed out of it

If you can stomach it, head on over to Think Progress. The liberals over there have called him, among other things, a facist, uncle tom, and baby killer.

theendisfar said:
Insurance is not a commodity, it is an indemnity, or a promise to incur the losses of another from the occurrence of an UNCERTAIN event.

THEN goes on to write:

theendisfar said:
The problem with ‘Insurance’ today is that it is a Blend of Insurance (indemnity) and a Plan (commodity).

Moreover….

theendisfar said:
Life is not easy nor supposed to be, especially for those who do not know the difference between Insurance and Plans.

And this is the what Home Schooling did for you? The ability to call something a “problem”, offer no solution, and attack somebody else for not understanding the same problem you’ve provided no solution for.

BatBoy said:
Here is how I define Racism….
ProObamaAgenda says:

…are you mad cause i can call west that and you cant????….
…that sorry black bastard is going nowhere
…so stop pretending that you would support anybody black for president
…crossburning asswipes like you have been exposed for what you are
…the same as you cave dwelling assholes have been since monkeys first shitted you out

Show me something similar with the people you mentioned.

Till then, I hope your ProObama picks you up and gets you out of here too!
You guys are all about stiring up Hate….that is your gig…not ours.

Ask Mr. Papshmer when he shows up with his “blackface” avatar.

–Cobra

Skippy said:
Oh, sorry. I got you mixed because you answered when I was addressing TIMZANK. So, you asked me to elaborate on what I was pointing out to TIMZANK. In other words, that US military intervention in Libya is part of a NATO operation authorized by the U.N. NOT as TIMZANK said, because “liberals are all of the sudden in favor of bombing the sh*t out brown skinned countries and nation building in the middleast.”

and thanks for the sorry, now i know you are a decent person and not a hack, thanks again

theendisfar said:

Our Right to Life is not a RIGHT to indemnity nor central planning including health. In fact, our rights give us security from central planning (aka Socialism).

That is the difference of opinion.

The original “plan,” as you correctly describe it, was to have a governmental “plan” covering everybody, because people like me consider that the government should step in when private health insurance refuses coverage to some individuals (30 to 40 million).

It is the same government providing “safety” to the country through the use of the military, which is paid through taxes.

“We can’t just let the rich relax and count their money.”

Barack Obama

Hey cjd ohio 1 earlier I responded to you about exemptions…I meant “Don’t *forget illegals are exempt..from HC mandate…which Obama was against when he was trying to get the nomination.

Hey Jo Glack
The BLAZE! WHAT a surprise!….I found it when I clicked on the H/T
How about this, jaxoffjill,(maybe JackKanauph would have been funnier) in 1947 only 7% of the USRA wanted LCol. in THEIR Army? Glad this isn’t 1947!
Is he still Active Reserve? If so, he is disparaging a superior officer. He’s retired. Superior Officer??? LOL In the military we laughed at the term superior officer because most would throw you under the bus to save their butts.
If YOU served, what happened to YOUR respect for the chain of command? If I served???? You don’t think I did because I am a girl? Yes, my kids mom did wear combat boots! I followed the chain of command…I did not respect the chain of command because I was groped, sexually harassed by many in my chain of command and sexually assaulted by one so spare me! I love the military but they were still sweeping all that under the rug at that time.
There is a reason the Officer Corps used to not vote….Irrelevant!
They swear to serve the country(No kidding, we all did), not a party. (We didn’t have much respect for our politicians either and I still don’t)
No man can have two masters.(Sounds Racist) If West is still active, he should resign.
I wish Allen West was in my chain of command! I am sure he would have handled what happened to me waaaay better then my so called “Superior Officer”!

Asked if he would have acted differently if under similar circumstances again, West testified, “If it’s about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I’d go through hell with a gasoline can.”

The conservative Alan Grayson strikes again!

cjd ohio 1 said:
no problem, but the order was united nations, then the US, UK, France, then nato took over control, myself i think we should have just stayed out of it

Probably that would have been better.
But then we had the egging on Prez Obama, from both sides, – What are WE going to do?! – Obama doesn’t have any leadership! – The OIL! The OIL! – The murderous dictator!!! – blah, blah, blah, blah.

mickeymat said:
From the article:

“I am sick and tired of this class warfare, this Marxist, demagogic rhetoric that is coming from the President of the United States of America.”

So am I, Congressman West. So am I and I suspect quite a number of others.

This is EXACTLY why I did not continue to donate to Obama’s campaign in 2008, after initially supporting his candidacy. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Obama is the most divisive, lawless, bullying, demagogue to come out of Chicago politics in decades. He trades on racial and class warfare- a technique that I suspect was honed to perfection by Axelrod and Plouffe. Instead of making any attempt to overcome racial divides in the country, he has proved himself to be no better than the race pimps, Sharpton and Jackson.

Obama has no principles upon which to stand, except pitting poor against “rich,” black against white, labor against management, and red state against blue state. He’s a sociopath and a narcissist.

Cobra said:
The ability to call something a “problem”, offer no solution, and attack somebody else for not understanding the same problem you’ve provided no solution for.

The solution is evident. If your shiny car has a pile of shit on it, then the solution is to clean it off. The problem is that Gov’t can force carriers to provide and charge for losses that are CERTAIN to occur.

The Solution is to prevent Gov’t from forcing carriers to provide and charge (piling on shit) for losses that are CERTAIN to occur.

Cobra said:
And this is the what Home Schooling did for you?

I was Dual Schooled. I went to public school but my parents made sure I got an education fit for someone who could carve out their own path, not one fitting to demand a shitty life from someone (politician) full of promises (aka shit). They taught me how to learn and rewarded me the most for academic achievements as well as sporting. They did not leave it up to gov’t or other people, they knew they we responsible and one day I would be accountable.

Cobra said:
and attack somebody else for not understanding the same problem you’ve provided no solution for.

If you are a child I apologize, and I excuse your current ignorance and dependence on others for solutions to problems you have not attempted to solve yourself. If you are an adult, stop blaming others for your ignorance and ineptness. If you are consistently waiting for someone else to clean up what is ultimately your shit, then it will simply continue to pile on.

WHERE ARE THE PLANS/BILLS FOR JOBS GOP????

Where?!?

HATE DOESN’T CREATE JOBS

What a low life piece of trash West is. He can’t even get down to real work. Spends all of his time being a fly magnet.

Skippy said:
The original “plan,” as you correctly describe it, was to have a governmental “plan” covering everybody, because people like me consider that the government should step in when private health insurance refuses coverage to some individuals (30 to 40 million).

:) Can you please provide a reference. We have 30 to 40 million (more than that) people too inept to plan their own lives because they have been ‘educated’ to believe that it is better to have people who they have never met manage their lives from hundreds if not thousands of miles away.

Sorry, but your and other’s stupidity is no free ticket into my wallet. I actually find the domestication of the Human Species offensive. Domestication being the Anthropogenic manipulation of a species to the point that the domesticated cannot survive without the care and security of the Provider (aka Master).

‘Private Health Insurance’ does not refuse Insurance, they refuse Plans. If it is CERTAIN that you will incur a several hundred thousand dollar cost, then the insurer must raise the rates of all of it’s customers. It is not INSURANCE if it is a CERTAIN event.

Were you simply given to Government to raise and educate as well. Rhetorical, your reply shows you still have no clue what insurance is even after having just read it. Sorry, but it would be best for our species if those like you were simply left to fend for yourself.

It is ironic that those who most passionately follow Darwin are in the process of proving him right by devolving. When a population of a species becomes so dependent upon another that they cannot survive without them, then they die off in great numbers when the Supporting population’s provisions become too scarce to share, or when those that support just quit giving a damn about the moochers that grow in number with each generation.

Not all invalids are created the same. I have a couple in my family, but WE take care of and emotionally nourish them as the gov’t would simply get paid to do a crappy job. And I am not suggesting that invalids without family support should go without, but too much of a helping hand has created the MILLIONS of Domesticated as you recognize.

Skippy said:
It is the same government providing “safety” to the country through the use of the military, which is paid through taxes.

To the simpleminded it may appear to be the same. Military protection is a cost that BENEFITS ALL relatively evenly, as ALL of the responsibilities in Article 1 Section 8 do. It is absolutely amazing that the level of Human Intelligence has decreased so much, but I suppose that is a result of having generations of people who have their thinking and planning done for them.

That said: I recognize the US’s current conflicts to be benefiting others at the expense of us, those who actually pay the bulk of the taxes. And I agree with Darwin.

theendisfar said:
The solution is evident. If your shiny car has a pile of shit on it, then the solution is to clean it off. The problem is that Gov’t can force carriers to provide and charge for losses that are CERTAIN to occur.

Yes they can, when the alternative is that the GOVERNMENT ITSELF would pick up the total cost of the sick individual.
You’ve demonstrated that you have some intelligence. Answer the real questions.

1) Can an uninsured person be legally denied care at a hospital emergency room?
2) Are you aware that the uninsured are billed at upwards of 200% more than insured patients for the same care?
3) Who ultimately pays for the uninsured?

theendisfar said:
If you are a child I apologize, and I excuse your current ignorance and dependence on others for solutions to problems you have not attempted to solve yourself. If you are an adult, stop blaming others for your ignorance and ineptness. If you are consistently waiting for someone else to clean up what is ultimately your shit, then it will simply continue to pile on.

Now, here’s the REAL story with you.
You can’t have a real discussion on this, because you know you’d have to defend the indefensible health insurance industry in the United States, so you choose to attack me personally. That’s fine. I’ve been called worse by better, but for the benefit of people reading here and trying to learn something….

Why don’t you explain to the rest of the readers why YOUR for profit insurance company HAS to pay out every claim you make and WON’T drop you if you become chronically ill?

Take a shot at it.

–Cobra

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/forget-about-the-law-union-bosses-white-house-advisors-bob-park-rich-trumka-admitting-they-are-overriding-us-law-sovereignty-with-the-international-labor-movement/

Be afraid, be very afraid.

Or, Frances Fox Piven, grandmother to the Left, and the always “thoughtful” Cornel West.

http://thebcast.com/2011/04/13/progressives-again-say-that-riots-and-social-chaos-are-in-their-playbook/

Jax_n_Jill said:
Hey cjd ohio 1 earlier I responded to you about exemptions…I meant “Don’t *forget illegals are exempt..from HC mandate…which Obama was against when he was trying to get the nomination.

Hey Jo Glack
The BLAZE! WHAT a surprise!….I found it when I clicked on the H/T
How about this, jaxoffjill,(maybe JackKanauph would have been funnier) in 1947 only 7% of the USRA wanted LCol. in THEIR Army? Glad this isn’t 1947!
Is he still Active Reserve? If so, he is disparaging a superior officer. He’s retired. Superior Officer??? LOL In the military we laughed at the term superior officer because most would throw you under the bus to save their butts.
If YOU served, what happened to YOUR respect for the chain of command? If I served???? You don’t think I did because I am a girl? Yes, my kids mom did wear combat boots! I followed the chain of command…I did not respect the chain of command because I was groped, sexually harassed by many in my chain of command and sexually assaulted by one so spare me! I love the military but they were still sweeping all that under the rug at that time.
There is a reason the Officer Corps used to not vote….Irrelevant!
They swear to serve the country(No kidding, we all did), not a party. (We didn’t have much respect for our politicians either and I still don’t)
No man can have two masters.(Sounds Racist) If West is still active, he should resign.
I wish Allen West was in my chain of command! I am sure he would have handled what happened to me waaaay better then my so called “Superior Officer”!

Asked if he would have acted differently if under similar circumstances again, West testified, “If it’s about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I’d go through hell with a gasoline can.”

No dis for female service, My mother was drafted in 1943. Both my parents were officers.
There is NOTHING “racist” about the chain of command. It may well be unfair in your eyes, but that is another story.
Both of my parents taught me, “If you can’t respect the man, you MUST respect the rank.”
If your Army was that different, I pity you.

Okay…you guys still want to rationalize with Cobra…have at it. Idiots. And I mean all of you. Cobras an idiot. And anyone that responds to him….(even our side)…but have at it.

timzank said:
Progressives don’t understand the concept of insurance plain and simple. …

Why does an MRI cost $2,000? Why does a heart operation cost $50,000? It ain’t got a damn thing to do with health insurance and everything to do with litigation and regulation. The very entity you are looking to for salvation (the u.s. government) is what caused health care to soar.

Idiots. Fu*king idiots.

Oh So true!

I mean, how rude for people who go in for a tonsillectomy and end up with the dick cut off to think they deserve some sort of malpractice compensation. Sometimes bad things happen. Big deal!

How ridiculous that the evil government requires hospitals to have standards to protect patents! It is an outrage!

Besides if you can’t afford that MRI or heart surgery — tough shit! You need to pull your sick self up by your boot straps and make a few million dollars or yell at your parents for not being wealthy and giving you a fat trust fund.

This is America. We will leave you behind if you fall on hard times or need a helping hand. It is what the founders wanted. Doesn’t matter that health care for all works well in every other industrialized country on the planet. We are not capable of living up to those standards.

Joseph Glackin said:
No dis for female service, My mother was drafted in 1943. Both my parents were officers.There is NOTHING “racist” about the chain of command. It may well be unfair in your eyes, but that is another story.Both of my parents taught me, “If you can’t respect the man, you MUST respect the rank.”If your Army was that different, I pity you.

your mom was drafted? for what country?

Timothy Wright said:
Oh So true! I mean, how rude for people who go in for a tonsillectomy and end up with the dick cut off to think they deserve some sort of malpractice compensation. Sometimes bad things happen. Big deal! How ridiculous that the evil government requires hospitals to have standards to protect patents! It is an outrage! Besides if you can’t afford that MRI or heart surgery — tough shit! You need to pull your sick self up by your boot straps and make a few million dollars or yell at your parents for not being wealthy and giving you a fat trust fund. This is America. We will leave you behind if you fall on hard times or need a helping hand. It is what the founders wanted. Doesn’t matter that health care for all works well in every other industrialized country on the planet. We are not capable of living up to those standards.

You are of the belief that government is your parent & providor, I am not. We used to call that being a lazy fu*k, now we call you democrats. People like you just need/want to be taken of. You’ve been brought up to believe you are entitled to whatever you want, there is no risk in the world, you are to be fed, clothed, housed, & cared for. It’s created a population of slugs, and unfortunately for you all good things come to an end.

You are like greedy children that don’t know when to quit, over reaching all the time and the end result will be ultimately crashing the system because you’ll have finally sucked all the money out of the system.

When that happens (not very far away) then EVERYONE is poor, and everyone has lousy healthcare etc. It won’t be fun, but at least you’ll be able to say you won I guess.

Liberal Tormentor said:
If you can stomach it, head on over to Think Progress. The liberals over there have called him, among other things, a facist, uncle tom, and baby killer.

those losers post here, too. different names, though. cobra, gasket, etc.

Juarez, my favorite interaction with Cobra was when he called me a racist for using the term, The boy who cried wolf”. Really, you can’t make this stuff up! Nothing but bottom-feeders.

cjd ohio 1 said:
your mom was drafted? for what country?

In 1943, hmmm…..Maybe Nazi Germany?

cjd ohio 1 said:
your mom was drafted? for what country?

timzank said:
In 1943, hmmm…..Maybe Nazi Germany?

his said his mother was drafted, i just want to know for what country. i know is was not the US

cjd ohio 1 said:
his said his mother was drafted, i just want to know for what country. i know is was not the US

He’s clearly lying.

No dis for female service, My mother was drafted in 1943. —Really? my parents were officers.–I thank them for their service!
There is NOTHING “racist” about the chain of command. I didn’t say the chain of command was racist….You said”No man can have two masters”…I said(Sounds Racist)I said.. It may well be unfair in your eyes,— Never said that!
Both of my parents taught me, “If you can’t respect the man, you MUST respect the rank.” Well no kidding…knew that and I did…don’t no where you got that idea! I was a pretty naive young woman…I was taught NO means NO and respect your authority figures!
If your Army was that different, I pity you.–Save your PITY…I said I love the military…there are just some people who really, really suck!

Obviously he felt right at home with Greta so was quite comfortable going mental. Not a surprise.

cjd ohio 1 said:
his said his mother was drafted, i just want to know for what country. i know is was not the US

Yeah, I figure if he’s telling the truth it had to be a European nation, I can’t think of any nations drafting women in the 40′s ‘cept maybe those under attack (England) or Nazi Germany. Actually, Glackin sounds Irish…maybe she was IRA??

cjd ohio 1 said:
your mom was drafted? for what country?

Maybe Joseph had two Daddy’s!

“Not that there is anything wrong with that!”

Garth said:
Obviously he felt right at home with Greta so was quite comfortable going mental. Not a surprise.

Now Garth, get some ice and ease into it tonight. Don’t just “swig” from the bottle, it gets your nasty on way too fast.

Cobra said:
1) Can an uninsured person be legally denied care at a hospital emergency room?

This is ultimately a philosophical question since common law is so malleable. Under Natural Law, yes they can since emergency care is a commodity and the injured did not hedge the costs associated with emergency care via some form of catastrophic health insurance. However, the Hippocratic Oath throws in a wrench. Doctors swear to “… apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures that are required …”, but that does not mean giving Kidney, even though they have 2, or forcing another to since they have 2. Emergency care means doing the best with resources directly available to ‘save’ a life, not prolonging it indefinitely.

I advocate emergency care being funded for locally, at the county level. If the costs of emergencies becomes too burdensome to the ‘locals’ then they decide how to deal with it. Perhaps more safety regulations, perhaps higher taxes, perhaps less available resources.

Cobra said:
2) Are you aware that the uninsured are billed at upwards of 200% more than insured patients for the same care?

I’m sure this varies from area to area, but I’ll accept it as a point of argument. These kind of issues can be best solved locally. If you place your community’s problems in the hands of those who do not suffer from their decisions, then one should expect more haphazard solutions. The reason that they are billed more is that the hospital is required to treat. The demand for the service goes up, while the supply for those that pay go down, hence the price goes up. Again, the solution must be local and applicable to those that create it.

Cobra said:
3) Who ultimately pays for the uninsured?

The tax payers and we pay more because of the supply and demand as described above.

The ultimate solution is not Health Insurance, it is an educated and Independent Culture that is able to plan their own lives. The key is to keep the invalid at a very small percentage and all Social Programs funded by and benefited from Locally. This way your elected County Officials (managers/planners) can accurately assess where any burdens are and alert the community so a resolution can be decided upon.

Cobra said:
You can’t have a real discussion on this, because you know you’d have to defend the indefensible health insurance industry in the United States, so you choose to attack me personally.

:) Awesome. Your ability to read is evident, but comprehension lacks. The Insurance Industry is in league with Big Government. They are ‘forced’ to provide a commodity dressed up like an Indemnity, so they have to raise the rates, and adjust services to stay in business. Competition and innovation is no longer a factor, just being able to ‘influence’ the rules is. Now with ObamaCare, they will be forced to ‘insure’ (in reality Centrally Plan) everyone’s health which will drive them out of business. But not really, what they will end up doing is ‘managing’ the gov’t plans, for a fee of course. Just like Medicare and all other gov’t programs it will be easy to rape the hell out of the the tax payers.

I do not attack you personally, I abhor all like you. My patience for y’alls’ ignorance and rent seeking has been exhausted. I have little room but to consider your ilk to be a blight on mankind. Whether you seek to take my efforts for yourself, or for the pity of others, I no longer care. Socialism, and the Domesticated Humans it produces, is a burden on Independence. If you support Socialism, then you are an affront to my Liberties.

Cobra said:
Why don’t you explain to the rest of the readers why YOUR for profit insurance company HAS to pay out every claim you make and WON’T drop you if you become chronically ill?

Look, it seems you know this one, give yourself a bone and let us all know.

timzank said:
Now Garth, get some ice and ease into it tonight. Don’t just “swig” from the bottle, it gets your nasty on way too fast.

Is this based on your vast experience with meth?

cjd ohio 1 said:
your mom was drafted? for what country?

The US of ‘efing A. She was drafted while in Nursing School. When she graduated in 1944, she walked to the center of the stage and was handed her diploma and her RN Certification. At the edge of the stage she was handed her Commission in the US Army Nursing Corps. as a 2nd Lt.. I have the pictures, and the documents.

Joseph Glackin said:
The US of ‘efing A. She was drafted while in Nursing School. When she graduated in 1944, she walked to the center of the stage and was handed her diploma and her RN Certification. At the edge of the stage she was handed her Commission in the US Army Nursing Corps. as a 2nd Lt.. I have the pictures, and the documents.

women were not drafted, did the military or government pay for her schooling like ROTC?

Garth said:
Is this based on your vast experience with meth?

No, my vast experience here as I watch you nightly getting more gassed and nasty as time goes on. It’s hilarious.

you have your moms draft notice? lol

Paul G said:
Okay…you guys still want to rationalize with Cobra…have at it. Idiots. And I mean all of you. Cobras an idiot. And anyone that responds to him….(even our side)…but have at it.

Can’t say I was familiar with him before today, but I had to find out for myself. Idiot? Perhaps, but my idiocy is voluntary :)

timzank said:
No, my vast experience here as I watch you nightly getting more gassed and nasty as time goes on. It’s hilarious.

You sure your hilarity can’t be traced to your daily enema? LMAO!!

“Dictator” is now going to replace “Nazi”, as the word “teas” never say! Hypocrisy works, don’t give it up. Keep the hate alive!

Jaurez said:
He’s clearly lying.

You may apologize by making a significant donation to the nearest Veteran’s Hospital in memory of 1st Lt. R.M. Keane, USANCorps. Start with a grand. The troops need it, and she would get a kick out of it.

timzank said:
We used to call that being a lazy fu*k, now we call you democrats.

Just wanted to see it printed twice! :)

timzank said:
If you’re black, why yo be hatin’ on brother West?

You must be kidding? Right?

Joseph Glackin said:
You may apologize by making a significant donation to the nearest Veteran’s Hospital in memory of 1st Lt. R.M. Keane, USANCorps. Start with a grand. The troops need it, and she would get a kick out of it.

you mother joined the nurse’s corps, but she was not drafted

theendisfar said:
Just wanted to see it printed twice! :)

Yeah, I like that one a lot.

Joseph Glackin said:
You may apologize by making a significant donation to the nearest Veteran’s Hospital in memory of 1st Lt. R.M. Keane, USANCorps. Start with a grand. The troops need it, and she would get a kick out of it.

There is no record of females participating in conscription in this country. You sure your parents lived here?

Joseph Glackin said:
You may apologize by making a significant donation to the nearest Veteran’s Hospital in memory of 1st Lt. R.M. Keane, USANCorps. Start with a grand. The troops need it, and she would get a kick out of it.

cjd is correct, You mother joined and was not drafted.

Your Mom should be honored that she served, as did my wife. They are special ladies.

There has never been a “draft” for women, nor should there ever be…or for men for that matter.

May your Mother Rest in Peace!

Alice67 said:
You must be kidding? Right?

Trust me, this idiot is not kidding. He’s a bagger and that’s really all you need to know about this buffoon.

cjd ohio 1 said:
women were not drafted, did the military or government pay for her schooling like ROTC?

They did not. Now, YOU PROVE the US Army did not “draft” or “direct commission” people of both sexes who had skills the military needed. I had a school teacher who was “commissioned” in 1941 while she was visiting England because she had a degree and spoke German and Dutch. She spent WWII working for OSS with people like Julia Child. She was NOT given a choice.
When you do not know whereof you speak, STFU. In the end, you will seem smarter.

ProObamaAgenda said:
FIRED UP AND READY TO GO

Yep. Fired up and ready to go! I’ll work to keep as many Republicans out of as many seats as I can!

Joseph Glackin said:
They did not. Now, YOU PROVE the US Army did not “draft” or “direct commission” people of both sexes who had skills the military needed. I had a school teacher who was “commissioned” in 1941 while she was visiting England because she had a degree and spoke German and Dutch. She spent WWII working for OSS with people like Julia Child. She was NOT given a choice.When you do not know whereof you speak, STFU. In the end, you will seem smarter.

lol, play it to the end, the US military did not draft women in WWII, i am not arguing a simple fact with you dummy……go bullsh*t someplace else

Garth said:
Trust me, this idiot is not kidding. He’s a bagger and that’s really all you need to know about this buffoon.

It was one of the funniest remarks I’ve seen here …. and I’ve seen some beauts!

Alice67 said:
It was one of the funniest remarks I’ve seen here …. and I’ve seen some beauts!

Thanks.

So many posters.
So few brains.
None of you have more than your political prejudice on your side.
I’ve been to the reunion of my mother’s Army Unit, all drafted women.
I would love to drop this bunch of clowns in the middle of one of those reunions.
Your life expectancy among those 70+ year old broads would have been seconds.
If you ever dared to doubt their story.

Alice67 said:
It was one of the funniest remarks I’ve seen here …. and I’ve seen some beauts!

i dont know, joe here thinking his mom was drafted is pretty funny too.

timzank said:
Thanks.

Joseph Glackin said:
So many posters.So few brains.None of you have more than your political prejudice on your side.I’ve been to the reunion of my mother’s Army Unit, all drafted women.I would love to drop this bunch of clowns in the middle of one of those reunions.Your life expectancy among those 70+ year old broads would have been seconds.If you ever dared to doubt their story.

i dare

timzank said:
Only democrats could believe you can take an existing insurance (risk) pool, drop in 30 million more cliamants and the price will go down.

Insurance companies will be required to spend 80% of their premiums on on services. You for or against that?

Joseph Glackin said:
So many posters.So few brains.None of you have more than your political prejudice on your side.I’ve been to the reunion of my mother’s Army Unit, all drafted women.I would love to drop this bunch of clowns in the middle of one of those reunions.Your life expectancy among those 70+ year old broads would have been seconds.If you ever dared to doubt their story.

Here’s some free advice, when you’ve been caught claiming something that can’t be true (there was no conscription for women in WWII) just let it go.

Alice67 said:
Insurance companies will be required to spend 80% of their premiums on on services. You for or against that?

I am against that.

Paul G said:
Okay…you guys still want to rationalize with Cobra…have at it. Idiots. And I mean all of you. Cobras an idiot. And anyone that responds to him….(even our side)…but have at it.

LOL! You act like this is Redstate, FoxNation or Stormfront…where you can fly your right winged flags out there with no criticism or opposition.
This is Mediaite. You can’t control who comes here, responds or reacts.

theendisfar said:
Cobra said:
1) Can an uninsured person be legally denied care at a hospital emergency room?

This is ultimately a philosophical question since common law is so malleable. Under Natural Law, yes they can since emergency care is a commodity and the injured did not hedge the costs associated with emergency care via some form of catastrophic health insurance. However, the Hippocratic Oath throws in a wrench.

NO…sir. It is FEDERAL LAW, signed by RONALD W. REAGAN, of all people.

“The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is a U.S. Act of Congress passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospitals and ambulance services to provide care to anyone needing emergency healthcare treatment regardless of citizenship, legal status or ability to pay. There are no reimbursement provisions. As a result of the act, patients needing emergency treatment can be discharged only under their own informed consent or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment.

EMTALA applies to “participating hospitals”, i.e., those that accept payment from the Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) under the Medicare program. However, in practical terms, EMTALA applies to virtually all hospitals in the U.S., with the exception of the Shriners Hospitals for Children, Indian Health Service hospitals, and Veterans Affairs hospitals[citation needed]. The combined payments of Medicare and Medicaid, $602 billion in 2004,[2] or roughly 44% of all medical expenditures in the U.S., make not participating in EMTALA impractical for nearly all hospitals. EMTALA’s provisions apply to all patients, and not just to Medicare patients.[3][4]“.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Act

theendisfar said:
The ultimate solution is not Health Insurance, it is an educated and Independent Culture that is able to plan their own lives. The key is to keep the invalid at a very small percentage and all Social Programs funded by and benefited from Locally. This way your elected County Officials (managers/planners) can accurately assess where any burdens are and alert the community so a resolution can be decided upon.

LOL! The right wingers in here call ME an “idiot”, yet did you read what this guy just wrote?

“Keep the invalid at a very small percentage”….what are we talking about? Eugenics? You’re gonna cull the heard, so to speak, so that if you can’t live past 50 or so, all those age related illnesses won’t affect the local budget? Right, Captain.

What–you’re going to tell those pesky cancer cells…”No, no…I’m EDUCATED and INDEPENDENT. Leave me alone.”

theendisfar said:
I no longer care.

That pretty much sums it up. And that’s why dangerous ideas like yours never become law in America.

theendisfar said:
Cobra said:
Why don’t you explain to the rest of the readers why YOUR for profit insurance company HAS to pay out every claim you make and WON’T drop you if you become chronically ill?

Look, it seems you know this one, give yourself a bone and let us all know.

Sure. They can drop you like a hot rock if their bean-counters think you cost too much to keep on policy. It’s called “rescission.” But what did the man you hate more than even me, President Obama’s plan do?

” * No Arbitrary Rescissions of Insurance Coverage. Right now, insurance companies are able to retroactively cancel your policy when you become sick, if you or your employer made an unintentional mistake on your paperwork.
o In Los Angeles, a woman undergoing chemotherapy had her coverage cancelled by an insurer who insisted her cancer existed before she bought coverage. She faced more than $129,000 in medical bills and was forced to stop chemotherapy for several months after her insurance was rescinded.3

Under the regulations, insurers and plans will be prohibited from rescinding coverage – for individuals or groups of people – except in cases involving fraud or an intentional misrepresentation of material facts. Insurers and plans seeking to rescind coverage must provide at least 30 days advance notice to give people time to appeal. There are no exceptions to this policy.”
http://www.healthreform.gov/newsroom/new_patients_bill_of_rights.html

Right…I’m an “idiot”, while you believe in some personal anarchy/Thunderdome America where the poor and weak simply die on the sidewalk if they get ill.

No WONDER you support Allen West.

–Cobra

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
What a low life piece of trash West is. He can’t even get down to real work. Spends all of his time being a fly magnet.

Robert will be posting as Garth now .

Cobra, you realize a post that long is one nobody bothers to read? Even libs…heh…maybe make it all caps next time too, then we’ll skip over it even quicker.

timzank said:
Thanks.

Of course you are welcome. LMAO!!

The Lantern of Truth said:
Robert will be posting as Garth now .

Ol RRK’s posts have been sporadic lately, wonder if he was one of the 50,000 McDonalds added?

Garth said:
Of course you are welcome. LMAO!!

Remember now, pace yourself!

Allen West is speaking in tea-bag-ese. Very simple and easy for most tea-bagers to get their heard around, if only momentarily. Do they comprehend what was said? Of course not, but that is beside the point. The right words were used and the for the tea-bagger this is all that matters. Truth is I think you get get these baggers to chase cheese in a maze. In fact many do.

Alice67 said:
New account. The other one was a nightmare. Never sign into Mediaite using Facebook. It creates all sorts of problems.

ellie said:
I’ve yet to see anyone on the left evoke kiddie porn as an attack but I’ve seen the right do it twice in the past 3 days. Repulsive. And I’ll call it out every time. Live with it.

ellie said:
There is one thing and one thing only that is COMPLETELY OFF LIMITS. Child porn. But keep excusing it. It’s very revealing.

ellie said:
Didn’t someone here just turn you in for some kiddie porn link you put on this site recently?

ellie said:
Do you think I’m going to go through every post I’ve read over the past week or so. It had to do with a link you sent in and one of the posters said he was sorry but he was obligated to turn you in because of it. Perhaps you never saw his response and he didn’t. Don’t know.

ellie said:
But I shouldn’t have brought it up if I can’t produce it so I apologize.

ellie said:
And he did not say kiddie porn but I assumed it is the only kind of porn one can get turned in for.

Mediaite’s new reigning ~ PIG OF POSTERS ~ ellie/Alice67

Alice67 said:
Insurance companies will be required to spend 80% of their premiums on on services. You for or against that?

Absolutely against. It is a trick. They will simply ‘pay’ higher prices for the services which will make the 20% for ‘admin’ & shareholders (don’t forget about them) a greater amount.

This is what kills me. We all PAY for this kind of stupidity. There is no time like the present for pushing the ills of ignorance back upon the socialists’ shoulders. You want to make stupid f’ing laws that make life more expensive without benefit, then you carry the burden. Maybe carrying all that weight will wise your asses up.

If you neighbor buys a bunch of stock in stupid, should you be forced to match it and pay your other neighbor’s share if they can’t afford it?

TillieGlockenspiel said:
Be afraid, be very afraid.

That’s your party’s job.

TillieGlockenspiel said:
Or, Frances Fox Piven, grandmother to the Left, and the always “thoughtful” Cornel West.

http://thebcast.com/2011/04/13/progressives-again-say-that-riots-and-social-chaos-are-in-their-playbook/

Keep fear alive!

I use to think that thoughtful discussion with people like Cobra, Glackin, any looney left socialist and those who might be sincere, but soon found with this type of person you might help them to see clearly, but now I’m convinced it’s hopeless. You can’t get a rock to soak up water!

Liberal Tormentor said:
Juarez, my favorite interaction with Cobra was when he called me a racist for using the term, The boy who cried wolf”. Really, you can’t make this stuff up! Nothing but bottom-feeders.

Perhaps you should have used the more common Fright-wing phrase “man-child”. *wink* *wink*

just wow said:
:

Just wow – way too much time on your hand so I suggest focusing on what you do best, Choking the chicken. All of wish you well.

BatBoy said:
cjd is correct, You mother joined and was not drafted.

Your Mom should be honored that she served, as did my wife. They are special ladies.

There has never been a “draft” for women, nor should there ever be…or for men for that matter.

May your Mother Rest in Peace!

Thank you for honoring her. She passed on in 2004 at 91.
Now, please accept that she WAS drafted.
Thank your wife for her service.
My mother said her military service taught her things that made her a better nurse for the next forty years.
BUT, and she laughed about it, she did not volunteer.
My mother was 4’11″ tall. When she was inducted, she had to sign a “waiver” to not hold the Govt. “responsible” for her “disability”. The disability was that the minimum height for an officer in the US Army was 5′ 2″. She asked what would happen if she did not sign. She was told she would be drafted as a nurse’s aide and made a Private.
As I said before, she got her diploma at center stage and her commission as she left. Her father met her with, “Congratulations, you are now an officer and a gentleman, by an act of Congress.”
I still have the Commission.

Alice67 said:
Keep fear alive!

why do you fear having to make it on you own instead of sucking off the govt tit? it must suck to fail at life…

I LOVE this man!………He is exactly what this country needs as its Commander-in-Chief!

From the first day I heard him speak, when running for congress, I was impressed, becoming more so with each passing day.

Garth said:
Allen West is speaking in tea-bag-ese. Very simple and easy for most tea-bagers to get their heard around, if only momentarily. Do they comprehend what was said? Of course not, but that is beside the point. The right words were used and the for the tea-bagger this is all that matters. Truth is I think you get get these baggers to chase cheese in a maze. In fact many do.

looks like garth got his unemployment check and block of gubment cheese today…

jdubbellu said:
why do you fear having to make it on you own instead of sucking off the govt tit? it must suck to fail at life…

You might know something about that. What is is it like for you living out of the back seat of your car? Asshole.

Joseph Glackin said:
Thank you for honoring her. She passed on in 2004 at 91.Now, please accept that she WAS drafted.Thank your wife for her service.My mother said her military service taught her things that made her a better nurse for the next forty years.BUT, and she laughed about it, she did not volunteer.My mother was 4′11″ tall. When she was inducted, she had to sign a “waiver” to not hold the Govt. “responsible” for her “disability”. The disability was that the minimum height for an officer in the US Army was 5′ 2″. She asked what would happen if she did not sign. She was told she would be drafted as a nurse’s aide and made a Private.As I said before, she got her diploma at center stage and her commission as she left. Her father met her with, “Congratulations, you are now an officer and a gentleman, by an act of Congress.”I still have the Commission.

show the draft notice, wont happen, the US did not draft womenin world war II, you must of misunderstood your mom

Garth said:
You might know something about that. What is is it like for you living out of the back seat of your car? Asshole.

actually i have 3 cars and i bet they are each worth more than your living arrangements. loser.

Joseph Glackin said:
Thank you for honoring her. She passed on in 2004 at 91.Now, please accept that she WAS drafted.Thank your wife for her service.My mother said her military service taught her things that made her a better nurse for the next forty years.BUT, and she laughed about it, she did not volunteer.My mother was 4′11″ tall. When she was inducted, she had to sign a “waiver” to not hold the Govt. “responsible” for her “disability”. The disability was that the minimum height for an officer in the US Army was 5′ 2″. She asked what would happen if she did not sign. She was told she would be drafted as a nurse’s aide and made a Private.As I said before, she got her diploma at center stage and her commission as she left. Her father met her with, “Congratulations, you are now an officer and a gentleman, by an act of Congress.”I still have the Commission.

Dude, everybody wants to believe what their mom tells them. Sorry she lied to you. The 4 foot 11 inch part is really hysterical…

timzank said:
Thanks.

Believe me you have nothing to thank me for. It was no compliment. Damn now i feel like I need to shower.

jdubbellu said:
looks like garth got his unemployment check and block of gubment cheese today…

She trades her food stamps for booze and cigs outside the bodega…

jdubbellu said:
actually i have 3 cars and i bet they are each worth more than your living arrangements. loser.

Three cars all on blocks in front your double wide and the stars and bars. You are a pathetic uneducated POS with a bad meth habit. LMAO!!

timzank said:
She trades her food stamps for booze and cigs outside the bodega…

You trade yours for on-line kiddie porn. LMAO!!

Rep Allen West a republican cannot be called the character Uncle Tom because Tom learned from his misdeeds. Socialism is an idea that supports labor and limit class or caste systems. I find this man insulting and slanderous and is upset that national media will not broadcast his remarks for fear the blue and the red will come knocking on his door. How did the men under his commmand feel about his leadership. If a soldier is harrassed by color or sex can they come to him without him responding this is a white man world get use to it. West is that shame that made it possible for the words bonded to service or bonded to servitude exist. Slavery could not move unless their was a black man willing to allow his own to be oopressed just for a cup of water out of the bucket…West is a shame for this nation and I feel even more shameful that this man was bringing to the hill his shameful self hate. What I am tried of is West and those that think like him for example, them white folks is not going to allow that black man to do anything…what he cannot see is this nation had moved forward and did come those white men and women who wanted to move this nation along with the world that a greater God had created.West is a fool and in black man polished to the visual into thinking that what West has to say is worthy of attention.

Allen West is a hero to the bagger community. Why? He talks complete bullshit and baggers just love their bullshit.

Garth said:
Three cars all on blocks in front your double wide and the stars and bars. You are a pathetic uneducated POS with a bad meth habit. LMAO!!

try again lil guy, put some effort in…

gottosay said:
Rep Allen West a republican cannot be called the character Uncle Tom because Tom learned from his misdeeds. Socialism is an idea that supports labor and limit class or caste systems. I find this man insulting and slanderous and is upset that national media will not broadcast his remarks for fear the blue and the red will come knocking on his door. How did the men under his commmand feel about his leadership. If a soldier is harrassed by color or sex can they come to him without him responding this is a white man world get use to it. West is that shame that made it possible for the words bonded to service or bonded to servitude exist. Slavery could not move unless their was a black man willing to allow his own to be oopressed just for a cup of water out of the bucket…West is a shame for this nation and I feel even more shameful that this man was bringing to the hill his shameful self hate. What I am tried of is West and those that think like him for example, them white folks is not going to allow that black man to do anything…what he cannot see is this nation had moved forward and did come those white men and women who wanted to move this nation along with the world that a greater God had created.West is a fool and in black man polished to the visual into thinking that what West has to say is worthy of attention.

racist

timzank said:
Cobra, you realize a post that long is one nobody bothers to read? Even libs…heh…maybe make it all caps next time too, then we’ll skip over it even quicker.

I read it. Every word. Loved it too. Love clear thinking smart posters. There are a lot of posters I do skip tho.

mamaearth said:
I LOVE this man!………He is exactly what this country needs as its Commander-in-Chief!

From the first day I heard him speak, when running for congress, I was impressed, becoming more so with each passing day.

I’d vote for him.

jdubbellu said:
try again lil guy, put some effort in…

When you say lil guy – is this your way of saying your penis is tiny, I mean miniscule and can’t compete with your brain which is even smaller? It’s a problem I tell ya. You idiots are far too easy. LMAO!!

Garth said:
When you say lil guy – is this your way of saying your penis is tiny, I mean miniscule and can’t compete with your brain which is even smaller? It’s a problem I tell ya. You idiots are far too easy. LMAO!!

no…

try again

theendisfar said:
& shareholders (don’t forget about them)

Anyone who makes a profit off of the sickness of their fellow Americans deserves a special place in hell (if I believed in hell). Single payer is the only ethical way to go. Fuck the shareholders.

Garth said:
When you say lil guy – is this your way of saying your penis is tiny, I mean miniscule and can’t compete with your brain which is even smaller? It’s a problem I tell ya. You idiots are far too easy. LMAO!!

looks like a button on a fur coat

I see Garth is trying something different and posting nothing but insults.

theendisfar said:
Can’t say I was familiar with him before today, but I had to find out for myself. Idiot? Perhaps, but my idiocy is voluntary :)

I gave you a thumbs up(of course that doesn’t matter) but here, people change their names faster than their underwear(all the media matters folks) RRK, Skyfet and Garth…they are idiots(no offense RRK Skyfet and Garth) but at least keep their own name, and are fun to respond to. Sometimes. ellie…he is a moronic idiot. She’s too stupid to know how to change his name

Alice67 said:
I read it. Every word. Loved it too. Love clear thinking smart posters. There are a lot of posters I do skip tho.

Lets see if you read this.
The day you succumb to your old age will be a great day of celebration.

McCain spends 1/2 hour in Libya and wants to arm the populace!

Would you Democrats just please take this guy over to your side already!!

jdubbellu said:
no…

try again

Why is it, do you think, that your brain has turned to mush? STD? The Rodeo Clown? The Anal Cyst? A combination of all three? This is something that your dumb ass is going to have to come to grips with sooner or later, The alternative is living your life as an ignoramus – and in your case would be much easier…but is it really the life you want to leave. That is, do you want people calling you a dumb shit behind your back? Your choice.

Michael Adam said:
Isn’t it nice to see “Uncle” Allen West getting some TV time?

ProObamaAgenda said:
….that sorry black bastard is going nowhere…

me2010 said:
too many house n___gers on the Right ..

me2010 said:
yeah hero to you fukn white people we have no love for this shoe shinning sellout punk

Cobra said:
He’s just the latest GOP minstrel show in the theater, just like Alan Keyes.

The left seems to really care ….about what I have no idea . Classy !

Cobra said:
.what are we talking about? Eugenics? You’re gonna cull the heard, so to speak, so that if you can’t live past 50 or so, all those age related illnesses won’t affect the local budget?

Not Euginics, which seeks to improve genetics, a proper Education, which seeks to ween one from the dependence of others. The invalid in this nation are not limited to the genetically, mentally, or physically infirmed, in fact those they are dwarfed by the number of physically and mentally capable save the lack of any kind of understanding of how to survive without constant care and direction from another. Basically, they are voluntary ‘tards with no capacity to escape this condition.

There are millions of you and this is a problem. This is not a genetic problem, it is a lack of culture problem. Culture comes from ‘cultivation’ which is the devotion of time and attention to the improvement of one’s society.

You don’t improve anything, you and your ilk expect others to improve your situation. You are a subculture defined by your lack of ability. A sort of Homo Incapabilis. You know Homo Habilis, though now extinct, was far more advanced that your kind?

Cobra said:
What–you’re going to tell those pesky cancer cells…”No, no…I’m EDUCATED and INDEPENDENT. Leave me alone.”

I have two relatives that have survived cancer. Guess what, they paid premiums all their lives and were covered because while there was risk that the carriers customers might get cancer, it was not already known.

My point about being independent is that an Adult who is physically, mentally, and financially mature can buy his/her own health insurance and/or plan if they so choose. If you force the able to take care of the invalid, especially those not their own, then you encourage the breeding of invalids and you end up with more than the economic system can withstand and you soon have millions who were once able who find themselves invalids as well through force and coercion.

As for the Federal Law, that is common law and any judge can overturn it or it can be legislated away, or modified, yada yada yada.

It is not some anarchist system I advocate, it is one where Human Beings, Hominids capable of reason and prediction, are able to live under the Rule of Law and not under some arbitrary rule where we are forced to participate in the devolution of a significant portion of our population. You have no clue that you are a kind of sub-species. Not genetically, but mentally. Animals, especially mammals, and particularly apes and hominids are supposed to be able to raise their young to Independence so they can do the same when they are CAPABLE of raising their own. Socialism is a Human intervention, Domestication, that allows adults to mature physically and reproduce without ever having to be able to survive without the aid of another.

Think of why Rangers put up “Do Not Feed the Animals” signs. It is because the animals, especially predators, come to EXPECT a handout, and when that handout is not given, then the predators becomes violent and attacks the expected benefactor. Humans are the Ultimate Predator. Don’t Feed the Humans! Unless they are yours or you can reasonably raise them to Adults.

It used to be fascinating that people, human beings, allowed this to happen to them, but it is no longer fascination, it is simply a burden. I don’t expect you to get this, you don’t display much reason.

George C said:
The left seems to really care ….about what I have no idea . Classy !

back to school, you are like a movie warehouse

NORBIT Jr. said:
McCain spends 1/2 hour in Libya and wants to arm the populace!

Would you Democrats just please take this guy over to your side already!!

The truth is no one gives a shit what you think.

cjd ohio 1 said:
back to school, you are like a movie warehouse

Best Line Evah !

Why a “low-level socialist agitator?” Why not “medium-level” or “high-level?”

West is a traditional ‘Lican pudknocker whose statements prove he thinks the people who elected him are morons.

This is the result of years of ‘Lican zealots chasing the sensible people out of the party and out of politics. You’re left with empty suits who aren’t even really good at making up creative insults. It’s bad for the ‘Lican party but good for America in the long run.

Get some grownups, guys!

George C said:
The left seems to really care ….about what I have no idea . Classy !

That right, you have no idea.

Garth said:
Why is it, do you think, that your brain has turned to mush? STD? The Rodeo Clown? The Anal Cyst? A combination of all three? This is something that your dumb ass is going to have to come to grips with sooner or later, The alternative is living your life as an ignoramus – and in your case would be much easier…but is it really the life you want to leave. That is, do you want people calling you a dumb shit behind your back? Your choice.

you are just horrible at this. i wish you had the bare minimum troll skills to at least make this slightly entertaining. but no, you get yourself all bent out of shape and you cant even come up with a new burn. you are a failure at life and trolling. how do you even get out of bed?

cjd ohio 1 said:
looks like a button on a fur coat

Very good.

Rachel Maddow has the temperment and panache to be a legitimate left-representing foil to the FOX Primetime lineup!

When msnbc inevitably falls – we know it will – that would be a pefect spot for Rach!!!

Rep. Allen West is a RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whoops…guess that won’t work.

timzank said:
Dude, everybody wants to believe what their mom tells them. Sorry she lied to you. The 4 foot 11 inch part is really hysterical…

Yeah, of course that was a lie. I never caught her in it in the 55 years I knew her.
Just HOW ‘effing stupid ARE YOU?

Jax_n_Jill said:
I would have been proud to serve under this guy when I was in the service!! Check him out here…
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/allen-west-delivers-stern-lesson-on-dadt-repeal-isnt-the-military-rife-with-rules/

Torturer and homophobe. Great role model. That’s what we need more of in America today.

jdubbellu said:
you are just horrible at this. i wish you had the bare minimum troll skills to at least make this slightly entertaining. but no, you get yourself all bent out of shape and you cant even come up with a new burn. you are a failure at life and trolling. how do you even get out of bed?

Yeah right, blah, blah, blah, you have your head up your ass and can’t explain the smell. Jesus, you idiots are pathetic.

K I gotta know who could possibly be giving Ted the thumbs up. Come on, fess up!

ChrisNH said:
Rep. Allen West is a RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whoops…guess that won’t work.

No , he.’s simply a mental case, much like you.

Paul G said:
they are idiots(no offense RRK Skyfet and Garth) but at least keep their own name,

There are some that are just simple trolls, looking to agitate others, and some that are really just too f’ing dumb to make it in this world. The agitators I can deal with, the Cobra’s I have lost all patience with. It’s like being on a ‘Survivor’ type show and having a majority of tards voting to piss in the well. While they have been convinced that it is a good idea, everyone suffers and their ‘leader’ starts blaming the ‘other’ side.

I’ve had enough of this BS. If the un or undereducated want to follow someone else’s advice and participate in Central Planning, then I have no beef, but I am done with being forced to pay for their inability to support themselves. Especially since the bastards are no longer begging but attacking the hand that feeds them.

A peaceful revolution is preferred, but a bloody one is preferable to allowing our children to become slaves to the leaders of morons.

I look forward to Ted’s nightly insult-a-thon. And now I find it’s all repeats.

Liberal Tormentor said:
K I gotta know who could possibly be giving Ted the thumbs up. Come on, fess up!

This guy ….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP-1nMcKq3U

Liberal Tormentor said:
K I gotta know who could possibly be giving Ted the thumbs up. Come on, fess up!

It’s most likely Alice67/ellie/old dying worthless hippy.

The attraction between Garth/Ted/Sarha P. and Alice67/ellie/old dying worthless hippy (take your pick) is the same as the attraction between cockroaches and filth.

Garth said:
Yeah right, blah, blah, blah, you have your head up your ass and can’t explain the smell. Jesus, you idiots are pathetic.

well that was a bit better, but you need to realize you are arguing from the position that you suck at life and need old uncle sam to take care of you. so you need to prop yourself up from that lower starting position. see what you can come up with and keep trying, you can do it!

Garth said:
You simply suck and are a tea-bagging idiot. It would be best if you either left the country voluntarily or were deported. Personally, I’d like to see your dumb ass deported…for stupidity. You are embarrassment to real Americans.

and then you had to go there…

i pay more in taxes than you make a year. i am a net gain for this society. you are only worth the soylent green biscuits you can be turned into. i had high hopes for you…

jdubbellu said:
and then you had to go there… i pay more in taxes than you make a year. i am a net gain for this society. you are only worth the soylent green biscuits you can be turned into. i had high hopes for you…

I don’t think Garth biscuits would even be used as animal feed, let alone human food.
I think Garth would better serve his country in the form of fertilizer for our national parks and gardens.

gottosay said:
Socialism is an idea that supports labor and limit class or caste systems.

Socialism certainly limits the Classes, or Castes if you prefer, to 3 and that ends up being 2ish. You get the Ruling (Rich/Politicians), the MIddle (the Workers), and the Poor (Plebeian). The Rich create a system to keep a significant number of Plebeians dependent upon the wealth they procure from the Middle Class. The Middle Class is then coerced through fear or pity to keep supplying the ‘welfare’ flowing. Fear of mobs, pity for the poor. The Rulers pay themselves quite handsomely for Central Planning this system and everyone’s lives. Tough work you know.

I say 2ish because at some point the difference between the Workers and Plebeians only is evident in that only some of the Slaves actually labor, the rest whine and bitch for their check.

gottosay said:
What I am tried of is West and those that think like him for example, them white folks is not going to allow that black man to do anything…what he cannot see is this nation had moved forward and did come those white men and women who wanted to move this nation along with the world that a greater God had created.West is a fool and in black man polished to the visual into thinking that what West has to say is worthy of attention.

At first I thought you were truly a black person admonishing West for being a Human rather than an African American (NewSpeak for Domesticated Black), but it appears you’re more likely a non-black posing as a educationally and culturally neglected black. Your ability to mimic the African American/Domesticated Blacks’ (aka Obama supporter) thought process is spot on, but you would be more convincing if you improved on your ebonics.

timzank said:
Ol RRK’s posts have been sporadic lately, wonder if he was one of the 50,000 McDonalds added?

No, Mediaite has really gotten boring lately. Too many rightisit reactionary nincompoops whining endlessly.

Barry is a ccmplete failure. He lies and is now losing the war in Libya. The only superpower in the world along with its allies is losing to a tin-star dictator.

70% say Barry is leading the USA down the toilet, he lied about Gitmo, rendition, 8% unemployment, 3.5 million jobs, etc.

The man is a complete failure.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
No, Mediaite has really gotten boring lately. Too many rightisit reactionary nincompoops whining endlessly.

It’s turning into Fox Nation. Shame, really.

cjd ohio 1 said:
you mother joined the nurse’s corps, but she was not drafted

timzank said:
Here’s some free advice, when you’ve been caught claiming something that can’t be true (there was no conscription for women in WWII) just let it go.

cjd ohio 1 said:
lol, play it to the end, the US military did not draft women in WWII, i am not arguing a simple fact with you dummy……go bullsh*t someplace else

timzank said:
There is no record of females participating in conscription in this country. You sure your parents lived here?

If you have all had your turn….
You are sounding like the Richard Pryor joke about the guy caught in bed with his girlfriend by his wife’
“Who am I supposed to believe? You, or my lying eyes?”
I have the personnel file of both of my parents. My father enlisted with a direct commission as a 1st Lt. My mother was “inducted” as a 2nd Lt.
What you think, I don’t care.
You have all been feeding at the trough of manufactured reality for so long you have no connection with real life.
To those whose mothers/wives/sisters/daughters served, all my respect, and thank you.
The rest aren’t worth the powder to blow them to hell.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
No, Mediaite has really gotten boring lately. Too many rightisit reactionary nincompoops whining endlessly.

I agree……Garth’s whining is getting worse. You are talking about him, right RRK? Ö)

Garth said:
I think you are trying to say you’d like to perform fellatio on jdubbellu.

why do you fear gay people? you must be the only homophobic libpussy on the planet…

jdubbellu said:
and then you had to go there…

i pay more in taxes than you make a year. i am a net gain for this society. you are only worth the soylent green biscuits you can be turned into. i had high hopes for you…

From your elevated position in the Illuminati you can look into “Garth’s” files and determine what he makes in a year? Who are you — the reincarnation of Richard Nixon?

If you are, that’s pretty redundant. One Nixon was more than enough.

mediadoubt said:
From your elevated position in the Illuminati you can look into “Garth’s” files and determine what he makes in a year? Who are you — the reincarnation of Richard Nixon?

If you are, that’s pretty redundant. One Nixon was more than enough.

yes i can. i can also see you will best serve the country as a biscuit too…

NORBIT Jr. said:
McCain spends 1/2 hour in Libya and wants to arm the populace!

Would you Democrats just please take this guy over to your side already!!

No thanks. Dont’ want ‘im. Apparently America agreed.

Garth said:
You simply suck and are a tea-bagging idiot. It would be best if you either left the country voluntarily or were deported. Personally, I’d like to see your dumb ass deported…for stupidity. You are embarrassment to real Americans.

Ah, the level of intelligence displayed here. As always, the libs posting here on Mediaite reinforce the “compassionate” in the “compassionate left” and display the profundity and superiour smarts of the left. Hey, libs, aren’t you glad that Garth and his ilk are on your side?

Garth said:
I think you are trying to say you’d like to perform fellatio on jdubbellu.

Alice, aren’t you going to call out Garth for making a homophobic crack? Oh, that’s right, you only get upset when someone from the other team does it. (Of course, with anonymous posters and their neuter handles it’s hard to know who’s male or female.)

Allen West, although black, criticizes Obama and is a Republican. Ipso facto, he’s a racist.

Garth said:
No , he.’s simply a mental . case, much like you.

Look, everyone! The small Lib child has Tourette syndrome with punctuation!

jdubbellu said:
yes i can. i can also see you will best serve the country as a biscuit too…

Cool! How much do I make?

theendisfar said:
Not Euginics, which seeks to improve genetics, a proper Education, which seeks to ween one from the dependence of others. The invalid in this nation are not limited to the genetically, mentally, or physically infirmed, in fact those they are dwarfed by the number of physically and mentally capable save the lack of any kind of understanding of how to survive without constant care and direction from another. Basically, they are voluntary ‘tards with no capacity to escape this condition.

ROTFLMBAO! If you own Health Insurance at all, you most likely have it as a result of a benefits package from your employer, (most Americans), Medicare (most American seniors) or Medicaid, (most of the impoverished or disabled). If you’re not in any of those categories, you’re on your own, shopping for insurance on the open private market, or doing without. Since most people NOT in the Top 2% can afford an out of pocket expense of the average overnight emergency room stay, surgery, specialized procedure, that means the vast majority of Americans are one step from disaster.
Hence:
“Bankruptcies due to medical bills increased by nearly 50 percent in a six-year period, from 46 percent in 2001 to 62 percent in 2007, and most of those who filed for bankruptcy were middle-class, well-educated homeowners, according to a report that will be published in the August issue of The American Journal of Medicine.”
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-06-05/health/bankruptcy.medical.bills_1_medical-bills-bankruptcies-health-insurance?_s=PM:HEALTH

Are “middle-class” “well-educated homeowners” the kind of “invalids” you were talking about?

theendisfar said:
I have two relatives that have survived cancer. Guess what, they paid premiums all their lives and were covered because while there was risk that the carriers customers might get cancer, it was not already known.

I’m PLEASED that your relatives survived cancer. I’m PLEASED that they had access to health insurance that up to 1/6th of the population does not, and that the insurance company covered their claims…hopefully in full.
That those claims were processed was the result of a corporate management decision, and not the education level, ability, motivation or responsible citizenship of your relatives.
That you don’t acknowledge the reality that good, educated, middle class folks in America don’t always get those results from THEIR insurance companies, is part of the great tragedy that is your thesis.

theendisfar said:
My point about being independent is that an Adult who is physically, mentally, and financially mature can buy his/her own health insurance and/or plan if they so choose.

Nonsense. A private insurance company reserves the right to reject any applicant. Pre-Obama, one excuse was the PRE-EXISTING CONDITION. Assuming one can get past that hurdle, then there is the cost.

theendisfar said:
It is not some anarchist system I advocate, it is one where Human Beings, Hominids capable of reason and prediction, are able to live under the Rule of Law and not under some arbitrary rule where we are forced to participate in the devolution of a significant portion of our population. You have no clue that you are a kind of sub-species. Not genetically, but mentally. Animals, especially mammals, and particularly apes and hominids are supposed to be able to raise their young to Independence so they can do the same when they are CAPABLE of raising their own. Socialism is a Human intervention, Domestication, that allows adults to mature physically and reproduce without ever having to be able to survive without the aid of another.

This is the best yet. Your paragraph reads like it was written by a straight-up Ayn Rand sociopath. You are NOT an island. If you’re an American citizen (and I have doubts at this point)…
You drink water from a tap or fountain that doesn’t give you dysentery because the government regulates it.
You eat food that’s not contaminated because the government regulates it.
You take medication that isn’t snake oil or poison, because of government regulation.
Your drive cars that don’t fly apart or explode….
Your kid’s Halloween costume doesn’t catch on fire…
The snow on your route to work is plowed away….
The tree that fell on your house because the tornado came through is moved away…all because of the government acting in your behalf.

But you seem to think that you don’t need ANY of that. I guess in reality, what you’re saying is…
You don’t need America.

Well, please…far be it from me from keeping your here. Bon Voyage to “theendisfarland” or wherever you’re planning to live.

I might even pick up a ticket for you.

–Cobra

Joseph Glackin said:
1st Lt. My mother was “inducted” as a 2nd Lt.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/defenseandsecurity/a/draftreg.htm

What About Women and the Draft?

While women officers and enlisted personnel serve with distinction in the U.S. Armed Forces, women have never been subject to Selective Service registration or a military draft in America. For a complete explanation of the reasons for this, see: Backgrounder: Women and the draft in America from the Selective Service System.

Women who served in the past, and those who serve today in ever increasing numbers, all volunteered for military service.

The Lantern of Truth said:
Allen West is a straight talker , just like Paul Ryan .

Those two are going places .

Just like Donald Trump, rite?

mediadoubt said:
Cool! How much do I make?

27k after you receive your EIC…

Liberal Tormentor said:
Allen says what he feels and won’t be intimidated into backing down. I love this guy. Oh wait, I forgot I’m a racist and not supposed to like him. What a quandary.

Just like Donald Trump, huh?

He’s growing you too, eh?

theendisfar said:

At first I thought you were truly a black person admonishing West for being a Human rather than an African American (NewSpeak for Domesticated Black), but it appears you’re more likely a non-black posing as a educationally and culturally neglected black. Your ability to mimic the African American/Domesticated Blacks’ (aka Obama supporter) thought process is spot on, but you would be more convincing if you improved on your ebonics.

Good God this is vile!

Cobra said:

This is the best yet. Your paragraph reads like it was written by a straight-up Ayn Rand sociopath. You are NOT an island. If you’re an American citizen (and I have doubts at this point)…

–Cobra

Indeed.

The fascist posted his devotion to Ron Paul on the Beck/Gomer thread. He believes most if not all pubbies ARE progressives.

Cobra said:
If you own Health Insurance at all, you most likely have it as a result of a benefits package from your employer

Self Employeed, I pay for my own. You seem to live in a world devoid of capable and independent people. This is no surprise, this is how your mind has been twisted to the point of Domestication. You don’t believe Independence is possible because you’re not exposed to it. For me and most of my colleagues and friends, this is a very common condition.

Cobra said:
Are “middle-class” “well-educated homeowners” the kind of “invalids” you were talking about?

It was not long ago that bankruptcy was not an option, only death was. Now enter Medicare and Medicaid which forces doctors and hospitals who take these ‘plans’ into a world of ever changing rules, services, fees, regulations, paperwork, and just a hell in general. They are defined benefit plans that have been defined quite poorly, as most are. A defined contribution plan would make much more sense, but you’re unlikely to understand how that would and could work.

Cobra said:
That you don’t acknowledge the reality that good, educated, middle class folks in America don’t always get those results from THEIR insurance companies, is part of the great tragedy that is your thesis.

Not saying that it wasn’t trying at times, but the burden that the Domesticated put on both the Insurers and Hospitals became very evident. The Insurers and sometimes hospitals are so used to dealing with f’ing morons they end up treating everyone the same, just like gov’t governs everyone according to the lowest common denominator.

Cobra said:
Nonsense. A private insurance company reserves the right to reject any applicant.

As is their right. You cannot force me to sell you a service that I do not want to sell you. However, I want to sell my service to as many people as possible. The only reason I won’t see you ‘insurance’ is if I know a loss is CERTAIN. Are you truly that dense that you can’t understand that insurance covers an UNCERTAIN event that has not already happened? Without having millions of freeloaders, high risk pools for ‘certain’ (known) losses would be manageable through charitable foundations, but never through forced altruism mandated through gov’t.

Cobra said:
Your paragraph reads like it was written by a straight-up Ayn Rand sociopath. You are NOT an island. If you’re an American citizen

I somewhat agree with Rand, but find Jefferson’s (actually Adam Smith’s) Pursuit of Happiness to be a better application of Morality. That is that Humans find Happiness in both Self Interest and Altruism and a healthy dose of both is necessary for a prosperous culture. Free Will is the key to both, if Self Interest or Altruism are forced or coerced, it is not Self Interest or Altruism, it is servitude to someone else’s interest.

As for the Services that you mention, I PAY for the benefit of each of those. They are not free. However, I am forced to pay for Services and Commodities for the millions of ‘less fortunate’ for which I derive no benefit from. That is involuntary servitude. Read the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and the Notes of the Constitutional Convention if you wish to describe America.

Your vision for Socialist America will be gone within 10 years. Those of us who have put up with you moochers in order to avoid your whining are now wishing we had not and are no longer pulling out our wallet to shut you losers up. You will either find a way to make your own way without the looting and riots that are being threatened, or you will meet a violent response fit for the animals we should have never fed.

Alice67 said:
Good God this is vile!

Alice, scroll back. Garth made a homophobic crack. Those upset you, remember? Oh, that’s right, he’s on your team so it’s okay.

This from a man who has chosen to suckle from the teat of the American taxpayer for his entire existence. Now you see how military juntas occur, douchebags like this guy think they’re better than the system. And he still thinks he has a higher security clearance than the President. I can’t believe some private didn’t frag this putz.

Tedderman said:
This from a man who has chosen to suckle from the teat of the American taxpayer for his entire existence. Now you see how military juntas occur, douchebags like this guy think they’re better than the system. And he still thinks he has a higher security clearance than the President. I can’t believe some private didn’t frag this putz.

You’re a racist.

Alice67 said:
Good God this is vile!

Did you read what I was referring to? Was that not an uneducated sorry ass attempt to vilify West for daring to call BO what he is? I don’t believe it came from a black. Who would attempt to speak for an entire segment of a sub-race with such ignorance and poor grammar other than a non-black attempting to make fun?

The Human Race is the ONLY Race, any subdivision by color (sub-race) is old thinking and crude.

slickerwick says:
April 22, 2011 at 10:15 pm slickerwick(Quote)
7 1

And you’re a MORON Where do you find one one racist letter in my post?

Skippy said:
The fascist posted his devotion to Ron Paul on the Beck/Gomer thread. He believes most if not all pubbies ARE progressives.

Can you define Fascist and Progressive?

I’m curious because by definition I am a Classic Liberal, how you idiots stole the term Liberal, which means advocating the most freedom possible, is beyond me, but it seems you jackasses have to relabel yourselves every few decades as you become intolerable. That point has been once again.

Alice67 said:
Good God this is vile!

theendisfar said:
Did you read what I was referring to? Was that not an uneducated sorry ass attempt to vilify West for daring to call BO what he is? I don’t believe it came from a black. Who would attempt to speak for an entire segment of a sub-race with such ignorance and poor grammar other than a non-black attempting to make fun?

The Human Race is the ONLY Race, any subdivision by color (sub-race) is old thinking and crude.

you misunderstood, alice/ellen was taking about her vag.

Joseph Glackin said:
The rest aren’t worth the powder to blow them to hell.

Beware of this nut . Seriously . He threatens people all the time .

mediadoubt said:
Cool! How much do I make?

Who knows ? Being a serial killer isn’t what it used to be .

theendisfar said:
I’m curious because by definition I am a Classic Liberal, how you idiots stole the term Liberal, which means advocating the most freedom possible, is beyond me, .

Yep, that is why I call modern “liberalism” the philosophy of the thief.
First they stole our philosophy’s once proud name (Liberal), and now they want to steal our money. Dirty thieves one and all.

Tedderman said:
slickerwick says:
April 22, 2011 at 10:15 pm slickerwick(Quote)
7 1

And you’re a MORON Where do you find one one racist letter in my post?

Flew right over your head, didn’t it? Irony is lost on libs. I shouldn’t even try.

Try this on for irony Sickrwick A black man achieves the highest office in the land and another black man…..Oh, forget it you really don’t get it do you?

Tedderman said:
This from a man who has chosen to suckle from the teat of the American taxpayer for his entire existence.

Let’s see, community agitator, college “professor” and politician. Taxpayer teat, 0bama. What has Bill Clinton ever worked for??? Hillary???. The Kennedys??? Timmy tax cheat Geithner??? 95% of 0bama’s administration? Government teat, clown.

Bush, first MBA president, business man, executive. Hey, with oil at 110 a barrel, maybe we need an oilman in the WH???Who was the last republican lawyer in the WH as president? Who was the last democrat president that wasn’t a lawyer?

illusive man said:
Yep, that is why I call modern “liberalism” the philosophy of the thief.
First they stole our philosophy’s once proud name (Liberal), and now they want to steal our money. Dirty thieves one and all.

They truly are, and worst yet they passionately steal the Independence (Self Determination) that is the hallmark of being Human. Able to carve your own life, the ability to reason, and make choices on your own. This act of Altruism, saving people from having to grow up, is on par with the most evil and vile acts that man has ever inflicted upon another. The Road to Hell is paved with Good Intentions, and with the Stimulus they can pave it with gold, or better yet with what will soon be the worthless hyper-inflated US Dollar.

National Socialism sucked for the Germans, and now sucks for America.

theendisfar said:
They truly are, and worst yet they passionately steal the Independence (Self Determination) that is the hallmark of being Human. Able to carve your own life, the ability to reason, and make choices on your own. This act of Altruism, saving people from having to grow up, is on par with the most evil and vile acts that man has ever inflicted upon another. The Road to Hell is paved with Good Intentions, and with the Stimulus they can pave it with gold, or better yet with what will soon be the worthless hyper-inflated US Dollar. National Socialism sucked for the Germans, and now sucks for America.

I think the left likes to say “Those who dont remember the past are condemned to repeat it”.
Yet they fail every time to take thier own advice.

Oh well, Hail Obama.

The reason oil is at $110 per barrell is because we had an oilman in the WH. If you’d like to know why, read the book titled: Oils Endless Bid. A facinating read, I think you’ll enjoy it. A better question might be, which republican president was the last one to leave office without substancially raising the national debt. Bush raised the debt limit 7, that’s 7 times. Oilman, that’s a good one.

Do yourself a favor and sit down for an hour and watch Sean Hannity’s special on Media Bias. I doubt it will be mentioned here in an article, but it’s worth seeing the history, from Walter Durante covering up for the mass murders in Russia through the Duke Lacrosse Hoax, Dan Rather’s firing, the Valerie Plame Hoax, and Juan Williams’ railroading by NPR.

The internet changed the monopoly. No wonder the Left keeps wanting to regulate it like the Chinese and dictatorships in the Middle East are doing. Control the flow of information and you can control the proletariat.

theendisfar said:
Self Employeed, I pay for my own.

No…you mean an administrator at a corporation accepts your premium payments, and you HOPE that they’ll cover whatever claims you make in the future. What’s your deductable?

theendisfar said:
It was not long ago that bankruptcy was not an option, only death was.

I suppose you’re AGAINST bankruptcy protection now. That certainly flies against the corporate Jesus paradigm you’ve constructed. Morbid nihilism is also a theme with you.

theendisfar said:
A defined contribution plan would make much more sense, but you’re unlikely to understand how that would and could work.

Oh, I understand. It would work like a death panel. Keep the tube in Granny until her “defined contribution” runs out. Make a voucher out of it. I’m BEGGING that Republicans stay the course on this one.

theendisfar said:
As is their right. You cannot force me to sell you a service that I do not want to sell you. However, I want to sell my service to as many people as possible. The only reason I won’t see you ‘insurance’ is if I know a loss is CERTAIN. Are you truly that dense that you can’t understand that insurance covers an UNCERTAIN event that has not already happened? Without having millions of freeloaders, high risk pools for ‘certain’ (known) losses would be manageable through charitable foundations, but never through forced altruism mandated through gov’t.

Only because there’s a PROFIT MOTIVATION behind it. The best customer a for- profit health insurer can have is one who never makes a claim and dies suddenly after paying into the system for decades. That’s why this uniquely American system of greed and moral pillage is an abomination on the face of the Earth.
And what’s WORST OF ALL, is that you think that some administrator is sitting at a corporate desk somewhere thinking, “Boy, if “endisfar” ever makes a chronic illness claim, I’m duty bound to cover it, no matter how much it cost the company.” Like they hate all the “invalids” but LOVE YOU because you send a check in every month, and they’re gonna watch out for your best interests.

What.A.Joke.

theendisfar said:
I somewhat agree with Rand, but find Jefferson’s (actually Adam Smith’s) Pursuit of Happiness to be a better application of Morality. That is that Humans find Happiness in both Self Interest and Altruism and a healthy dose of both is necessary for a prosperous culture. Free Will is the key to both, if Self Interest or Altruism are forced or coerced, it is not Self Interest or Altruism, it is servitude to someone else’s interest.

Jefferson was a walking hypocrite on Free Will being the slave-owning philander he was, but I digress.

theendisfar said:
As for the Services that you mention, I PAY for the benefit of each of those. They are not free.

No, no…conservatives want to SHRINK the size of government, including cuts to the EPA the Food and Drug Administration and other consumer protections. Grover Norquist wants to shrink the size of government until you can drown it in a bathtub.

theendisfar said:
However, I am forced to pay for Services and Commodities for the millions of ‘less fortunate’ for which I derive no benefit from. That is involuntary servitude. Read the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and the Notes of the Constitutional Convention if you wish to describe America.

When there’s a blizzard or tornado, or hurricane, individual governors run like whipped puppies to request FEDERAL disaster aid, which during a deficit is borrowed money from largely China. Yeah, these local municipalities (the same folks you want to pick up the tab for billions in hospital costs) can’t plow a highway without federal help.
Second, you’re not the ONLY person paying taxes in America, as much as conservative sociopaths like to argue. Third, quoting SLAVE OWNERS (authors of the Constitution, DOI) and bitching about “involuntary servitude” because you don’t want your tax dollars going to help poor people makes you a flaming conservative sociopath, worthy of induction into the “Flaming Conservative Sociopath Hall of Fame.”
If it doesn’t currently exist, one should be built in your honor.

theendisfar said:
Those of us who have put up with you moochers in order to avoid your whining are now wishing we had not and are no longer pulling out our wallet to shut you losers up. You will either find a way to make your own way without the looting and riots that are being threatened, or you will meet a violent response fit for the animals we should have never fed.

First ballot. No question.

–Cobra

Allen is my kind of man. Obama is a product of affirmative action, Allen is a product of hard work and good morals!

Tedderman said:
The reason oil is at $110 per barrell is because we had an oilman in the WH. If you’d like to know why, read the book titled: Oils Endless Bid. A facinating read, I think you’ll enjoy it. A better question might be, which republican president was the last one to leave office without substancially raising the national debt. Bush raised the debt limit 7, that’s 7 times. Oilman, that’s a good one.

Hey, is it campaigner 0bama that wants to raise it, or president, 0bama? Can you keep track? Which 0bama do you like best?

Ah. OK. It has been duly noted….and understood.

Tedderman said:
The reason oil is at $110 per barrell is because we had an oilman in the WH. If you’d like to know why, read the book titled: Oils Endless Bid. A facinating read, I think you’ll enjoy it. A better question might be, which republican president was the last one to leave office without substancially raising the national debt. Bush raised the debt limit 7, that’s 7 times. Oilman, that’s a good one.

You don’t know squat about the oil business! You don’t just stick a straw in the ground and come up with oil- or “shootin at some food, and up from the ground came bubblin crude!”Even I have been to an actual working oil rig and seen a core sample. Various U.S. administrations regulated drilling to the point that it was far cheaper for the oil companies to drill in foreign countries and tanker the oil to refineries in the U.S. than to drill here. We have regulated oil companies (and other U.S. industries to the tune of BILLIONS in costs to the companies) to the point that we have few robust industries any more.

The reason we have $110 a barrel oil is because oil markets are based on guesses about THE FUTURE. Any jacka$$ can see that the upheaval in the Middle East is not going to end soon and the Saudis are spanking us for our foreign policy in the region by cutting back on production, thus the traders are betting that there will be less supply and increased demand (think China and India, to name just two developing countries). D’uh. Tell me, btw, WHY would our “government” think that drilling by BRAZIL in the Gulf of Mexico would be safer than drilling by AMERICAN companies, over which the administration has at least a modicum of authority?

I like all of ‘em, thanks for askin’.

TillieGlockenspiel said:
thus the traders are betting that there will be less supply and increased demand

Bingo. Speculators can do THAT no matter WHAT the reality is. The number #1 exporter of oil to the US is CANADA.

–Cobra

theendisfar said:
theendisfar says:

*gag* Go away.

Tedderman said:
The reason oil is at $110 per barrell is because we had an oilman in the WH. If you’d like to know why, read the book titled: Oils Endless Bid. A facinating read, I think you’ll enjoy it. A better question might be, which republican president was the last one to leave office without substancially raising the national debt. Bush raised the debt limit 7, that’s 7 times. Oilman, that’s a good one.

Noooo, oil is going up because we keep devaluing the dollar.
Then, we have the Democrats who have been thwarting our ability to supply ourselves for decades.

The Democrats have thwarted our ability to supply ourselves. As you can see, at every step of the way,…
… The DEMOCRATS have attacked us in trying to look for oil where we think it is;
… The DEMOCRATS have attacked us in trying to drill for oil where we know it is;
… and the DEMOCRATS have attacked us in trying to refine the oil we have.(I was reading that we even have had to import refined gasoline!)

Al Qaeda is not our worst enemy, it’s the Modern Liberals that have infested the Democratic Party.

TillieGlockenspiel said:
You don’t know squat about the oil business! You don’t just stick a straw in the ground and come up with oil- or “shootin at some food, and up from the ground came bubblin crude!”Even I have been to an actual working oil rig and seen a core sample. Various U.S. administrations regulated drilling to the point that it was far cheaper for the oil companies to drill in foreign countries and tanker the oil to refineries in the U.S. than to drill here. We have regulated oil companies (and other U.S. industries to the tune of BILLIONS in costs to the companies) to the point that we have few robust industries any more.

The reason we have $110 a barrel oil is because oil markets are based on guesses about THE FUTURE. Any jacka$$ can see that the upheaval in the Middle East is not going to end soon and the Saudis are spanking us for our foreign policy in the region by cutting back on production, thus the traders are betting that there will be less supply and increased demand (think China and India, to name just two developing countries). D’uh. Tell me, btw, WHY would our “government” think that drilling by BRAZIL in the Gulf of Mexico would be safer than drilling by AMERICAN companies, over which the administration has at least a modicum of authority?

The next mess because of Obama is food, led by corn. With the purposeful devaluing of the dollar by Obama and Bernanke, our corn is chep. So China is going to buy it. Good for farmers, but it will drive up prices here. We also have the government-forced demand from ethanol – which will further drive up prices.

As corn is used in feeds, etc, other food products will get more expensive.

It has taken some time for Obama’s and Bernanke’s terrible efforts to bleed into the rest of the word, but it is now happening.

Tedderman said:
The reason oil is at $110 per barrell is because we had an oilman in the WH. If you’d like to know why, read the book titled: Oils Endless Bid. A facinating read, I think you’ll enjoy it. A better question might be, which republican president was the last one to leave office without substancially raising the national debt. Bush raised the debt limit 7, that’s 7 times. Oilman, that’s a good one.

Uh, Bush has been out of office for almost 3 yrs now. Remember, we were promised “change” when the messiah got into office? I guess nothing bad that happens under his watch is ever his fault. Do you have any idea what a mindless hyperpartisan you sound like?

slickerwick said:
Uh, Bush has been out of office for almost 3 yrs now. Remember, we were promised “change” when the messiah got into office? I guess nothing bad that happens under his watch is ever his fault. Do you have any idea what a mindless hyperpartisan you sound like?

Well, Obama talked about “sacrifice” and “hope”. When he talks about sacrifice, what he means is that we are to all sacrifice some of our wealth, assets, salaries, happiness, etc, so we all can be “equal”.

And when he talks about “hope”, what he means is that we are all to hope that things don’t get too bad (on our journey to the liberal Utopia where everything is “equal” – and miserable.)

Have you ever heard of the word: deregulation from the latin deregulatio meaning, you’re an idiot. Or perhaps the latin: deregulatus, meaning, you’re really an idiot. And do you perhaps recall the secret meetings held by one DICK Cheney with the heads of the energy industry including…..Big Oil? Of course you don’t, we’re all are just imagining the greatest fluctuations in oil prices in our nations history happening in the last decade. Must be a liberal plot, right, how about, regulatus….. you’re done.

jdubbellu said:
27k after you receive your EIC…

I know it was a trick question, because it dealt with matters of fact — not exactly your long suit.

You’ll be happy to know that you’re only off by a bit more than one order of magnitude. I guess the Illuminati haven’t been paying their power bills.

The speculators and the civil unrest in the middle east are causing the price per barrel of oil to go up. Speculators started it and then the uprisings made it worse. The Suez Canal hasn’t been open for ships, causing oil to not move through as it should be and the fears of more unrest helps keep the price artificially higher. It’s not like the president sets the price on barrels of oil or controls the rest of the world either.

MTinMO said:
The speculators and the civil unrest in the middle east are causing the price per barrel of oil to go up. Speculators started it and then the uprisings made it worse. The Suez Canal hasn’t been open for ships, causing oil to not move through as it should be and the fears of more unrest helps keep the price artificially higher. It’s not like the president sets the price on barrels of oil or controls the rest of the world either.

Obama bombing mddle eastern countries isn’t exactly helping with the oil situation. Frankly, I don’t know how we can afford this third war either. It’s insane.

slickerwick said:
Obama bombing mddle eastern countries isn’t exactly helping with the oil situation. Frankly, I don’t know how we can afford this third war either. It’s insane.

Cry about it to France and the UK.

So, what is the controversy? The only reason President Obama isn’t a 3d World socialist dictator is he hasn’t accomplished his goal yet. It certainly isn’t for lack of trying. The Republican House isn’t much of an impediment – look how they caved on the 2011 budget – but at least they won’t extort and/or bribe their members ala’ Pelosi and Reid to further Obama’s agenda.

Tedderman said:
Have you ever heard of the word: deregulation from the latin deregulatio meaning, you’re an idiot. Or perhaps the latin: deregulatus, meaning, you’re really an idiot. And do you perhaps recall the secret meetings held by one DICK Cheney with the heads of the energy industry including…..Big Oil? Of course you don’t, we’re all are just imagining the greatest fluctuations in oil prices in our nations history happening in the last decade. Must be a liberal plot, right, how about, regulatus….. you’re done.

Guess they weren’t very “secret” Mr. deregulatio (I accept your meaning of the word). If you delve a little further back in history, Clinton also had “secret” meetings. lol (just an aside, if you ever listened to Fox, you might have known all that) – fair and balanced. lol

D’uh. Tell me, btw, WHY would our “government” think that drilling by BRAZIL in the Gulf of Mexico would be safer than drilling by AMERICAN companies, over which the administration has at least a modicum of authority? (as stated by Tillie)

- why? Cause he likes to make ‘friends” where he is completely understood. He’s also helping George (spooky dude) with his vision of the “new World Order”. Other than that doesn’t make much sense does it?

Cobra your “post” indicates that you’ve bought the kool-aid. Why don’t you go back further in history and see under who’s watch all the “safety” regulations were enacted. Why are you buying into the notion that Republicans don’t want “safety” regulations? You are playing the divisive card to the fullest and your lack of honesty is not acceptable. But, you feel that if we don’t want further erosion of our freedoms, we should leave the Country. What was this Country built on? Why did our Forefathers write the constitution the way they did? Now, why are the democrats always trying to find a “work around” the constitution? Ever think about it? So, if you have to find a way around the constitution of the United States and I’m quite happy with it, who should be asked to leave if they are not happy?

A funny thing happened on the way to enacting all those “safety” nets Cobra – the Constitution was upheld and no work-around was necessary. Why is it that Health Care Bill is waiting for a “ruling” from the Supreme Court?

How has your side dealt with this issue? They are even trying to find a “work-around” by the appointments to the Supreme Court. Yes, a fine mess you’ve gotten us into Ollie”.

The lies don’t work there Cobra. No Republican ever said there is no need for the Federal Government. We just think our Forefathers had the right idea – you don’t seem to think so.

Cobra said:
“But while West’s supporters call him a hero, military prosecutors said his actions amounted to torture and violated articles 128 and 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.”

This is actually funny. I’m watching conservatives openly cheer for a Black man who admitted under oath that he broke the law.

Change has come to America!

–Cobra

I’m watching idiots like you cheering for a “Black man” that is our President, breaking the law…

Tedderman said:
The reason oil is at $110 per barrell is because we had an oilman in the WH. If you’d like to know why, read the book titled: Oils Endless Bid. A facinating read, I think you’ll enjoy it. A better question might be, which republican president was the last one to leave office without substancially raising the national debt. Bush raised the debt limit 7, that’s 7 times. Oilman, that’s a good one.

You sir, are an idiot. Nuff said.

And while I’m here….Who’s this Alice67? because you too…are an idiot.

Retired or not, no matter how much this guy dislikes, disagrees or even hates the President he is still Commander and Chief. And for this nutjob to make those statements in public shows the character, integrity and class of West. It’s no wonder he was almost court-marshaled from the Army. A guy like this doesn’t deserved to be elected to any office and quite frankly tarnishes the other officers in the Army.

And for a guy who thinks that just because the military flies operations during the day over dangerous combat zones and that the President doesn’t do the same with Air-Force Once and all the secret service agents and everyone else aboard shows just how much of a lune he is.

Paul G said:
And while I’m here….Who’s this Alice67? because you too…are an idiot.

Call me crazy, but I have this itty bitty feeling that alice is ellie (who has trouble saying I was wrong so she reinvented herself) – now I could be wrong, but “if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck – it’s a duck”.

Paul G said:
Okay…you guys still want to rationalize with Cobra…have at it. Idiots. And I mean all of you. Cobras an idiot. And anyone that responds to him….(even our side)…but have at it.

THEN….

Paul G said:
#

Cobra said:
“But while West’s supporters call him a hero, military prosecutors said his actions amounted to torture and violated articles 128 and 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.”

This is actually funny. I’m watching conservatives openly cheer for a Black man who admitted under oath that he broke the law.

Change has come to America!

–Cobra

I’m watching idiots like you cheering for a “Black man” that is our President, breaking the law…
#
Paul G Paul G says:

Paul G. <—-OWNED.

—Cobra

Alz said:
Noooo, oil is going up because we keep devaluing the dollar.
Then, we have the Democrats who have been thwarting our ability to supply ourselves for decades.

The Democrats have thwarted our ability to supply ourselves. As you can see, at every step of the way,…
… The DEMOCRATS have attacked us in trying to look for oil where we think it is;
… The DEMOCRATS have attacked us in trying to drill for oil where we know it is;
… and the DEMOCRATS have attacked us in trying to refine the oil we have.(I was reading that we even have had to import refined gasoline!)

Al Qaeda is not our worst enemy, it’s the Modern Liberals that have infested the Democratic Party.

Hey, goofus… the oil discovered in the U.S. does not automatically become the oil OF the U.S…. it goes on the open market where the highest bidder gets it. In other words, how do you like it that your REPUBLICAN idols have made it easier for the oil companies to rape our land and sell our resources to China?

Sometimes I wonder why Democrats can not accept the fact that people THINK.

Some people think that being Democrat is the way to save the country.
Some people think that being Republican is the way to save the country.

Some people are white.
Some people are black.

Why is it that being white automatically defines a person to be racist?
Why is it that being black automatically defines a person who can not possibly be racist?

Sometimes I wonder why is it that Democrats can not accept the idea that a black person – sorry, an African -American person – can be a Republican, without condemning that black person as an Uncle Tom, a shoe-shiner and a sell-out?

Is thinking for one self now a crime?

Sometimes I wonder why is it that if Americans longed for a black President, why did they not have the courage and patience to wait for someone worth that honor, instead of electing the first one that came along?

seek says:

Call me crazy, but I have this itty bitty feeling that alice is ellie (who has trouble saying I was wrong so she reinvented herself) – now I could be wrong, but “if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck – it’s a duck”.

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If it acts like a pompous ass, and talks like a clueless pompous ass, -” it’s a pompous ass”!

timcajun said:
seek says:

Call me crazy, but I have this itty bitty feeling that alice is ellie (who has trouble saying I was wrong so she reinvented herself) – now I could be wrong, but “if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck – it’s a duck”.

…………………………………………….
If it acts like a pompous ass, and talks like a clueless pompous ass, -” it’s a pompous ass”!

yes you are. you are also a loser so you shouldn’t be all that pompous…

or did they bump up your welfare and so now you feel all “high and mighty”?

MTinMO said:
The speculators and the civil unrest in the middle east are causing the price per barrel of oil to go up. Speculators started it and then the uprisings made it worse. The Suez Canal hasn’t been open for ships, causing oil to not move through as it should be and the fears of more unrest helps keep the price artificially higher. It’s not like the president sets the price on barrels of oil or controls the rest of the world either.

Yes but then that is only part of the story now isn’t it. We have oil ourselves but the democrats have prevented us from opening those fields. We are rich in oil and getting it out of the ground would put this country back to work as well. But Obama stops us from any drilling supposedly due to the danger to the environment while giving money to other countries to drill. Something smells now doesn’t it

seek said:
Call me crazy, but I have this itty bitty feeling that alice is ellie (who has trouble saying I was wrong so she reinvented herself) – now I could be wrong, but “if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck – it’s a duck”.

I don’t know if she is ellie or not and if she is I don’t think you can take the credit for her name change. After ellie supported the discusting article at Wonkette about Trig Palin everyone brought her down. She has to be ashamed to show her “face” or in this case avatar again.

Ajolily said:
Yes but then that is only part of the story now isn’t it. We have oil ourselves but the democrats have prevented us from opening those fields. We are rich in oil and getting it out of the ground would put this country back to work as well. But Obama stops us from any drilling supposedly due to the danger to the environment while giving money to other countries to drill. Something smells now doesn’t it

If lack of domestic drilling was the big cause of price increase, then why didn’t the cost skyrocket during the BP Gulf drilling disaster and rig shut downs last summer? Why Not? Because there wasn’t that high a percentage of oil coming from the Gulf, so speculators didn’t bet on a short of supply.

–Cobra

Allen West knows all. He has a higher security clearance than the president . . . or so he claims . . . even though that’s not possible.

Does he consider asking the wealthy to pay their fair share to be “class warfare” and “Marxist, demagogic rhetoric?” If so, he must think giving unneeded and undeserved tax giveaways to them and sticking the rest of us with the tab is Democracy at its Finest. Sheesh.

I attended a town hall meeting with my representative the other night. A young woman mentioned her father, who owns a pizza shop. To paraphrase: her father doesn’t use his profits to hire people just for the hell of it – he only hires people if he NEEDS them. If customers aren’t buying more pizzas he doesn’t need to MAKE more pizzas . . . so why would he hire anyone?

The rich are no different. Wealthy people don’t use their extra $$$ to create more jobs if there isn’t greater demand for their products. Reagan’s “supply side” economics ignored the time-tested fact that “demand leads supply.” You can supply all the pizzas you want, but that doesn’t mean customers will demand them.

People are finally beginning to see through the neocons’ smoke-screen. The Bush era tax cuts for the wealthy produced little or no job creation – not here, anyway. He and the Republicans poured potential tax money into the pockets of their donors and fat-cat pals instead, under the illusion of “job creation” and knowing full well it was a bunch of crap. Relatively few non-government jobs have been created since Bush squandered the modest Clinton surplus on giveaways to his friends and waged two illegal wars on credit.

“Alien” West will say anything that will advance his agenda and keep him in the news, as demonstrated here. And YOU thought Joe McCarthy was dead!

Ajolily said:
I don’t know if she is ellie or not and if she is I don’t think you can take the credit for her name change. After ellie supported the discusting article at Wonkette about Trig Palin everyone brought her down. She has to be ashamed to show her “face” or in this case avatar again.

Everyone? I wish that were true. If somehow you got the feeling I was taking full credit for ellie’s disappearance – I only wish I was that powerful, cause there are a few more that deserve a well earned vacation in Siberia. Someone asked, I responded – that’s all

seek said:
Everyone? I wish that were true. If somehow you got the feeling I was taking full credit for ellie’s disappearance – I only wish I was that powerful, cause there are a few more that deserve a well earned vacation in Siberia. Someone asked, I responded – that’s all

LOL, no I should not have stated everyone. There were a few fools who supported her like color me badd who defended her and the nasty piece of x rated journalism. As to your power to get rid of some posters it would be nice to get rid of some from both sides please. I don’t like what ellie has to say and her stand on things but at least she tries to say something. The worse are the ones who only want to call others names and never discuss the article.

jdubbellu says:
yes you are. you are also a loser so you shouldn’t be all that pompous…

or did they bump up your welfare and so now you feel all “high and mighty”?
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A little “tea” hate? They said once your done with your rally meeting, you would loan me $20.00! I do feel high and mighty, because I found out my trailer is newer than yours!

Cobra said:
If lack of domestic drilling was the big cause of price increase, then why didn’t the cost skyrocket during the BP Gulf drilling disaster and rig shut downs last summer? Why Not? Because there wasn’t that high a percentage of oil coming from the Gulf, so speculators didn’t bet on a short of supply. –Cobra

Where did you get that I said it was the big cause. I said the wars and speculation aren’t the whole story. As to bringing up BP not having a significant effect on the price of oil what do you think would have happened to the price of oil if we had 1000s of oil wells pumping oil and they all had to be shut down at once. Or what do you think would be the effect of the current crisis if we had 1000s of oil wells already in place? Then the crisis in the middle east would be less of an issue wouldn’t it.

Aw, c’mon Allen, tell us what you really think. You don’t have to pull your punches. The President is through and through evil.

seek said:
Why are you buying into the notion that Republicans don’t want “safety” regulations?

Here’s one:

“Responding to solicitations from Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), businesses have asked Congress to roll back or preempt more than 150 rules governing their industries, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post….
…The Post reviewed more than 200 letters and reports that businesses sent to Issa targeting regulations across the federal government. The rules under scrutiny include familiar issues such as greenhouse gas emissions, health-care reform and the landmark Wall Street overhaul. But the committee also will examine more obscure regulations. For instance, makers of some cleaning products that remove mold and mildew have asked the committee to reconsider rules that require their products to be registered as pesticides under the Federal Insecticide, Fungicide and Rodenticide Act….
…Many of the business groups zeroed in on existing and anticipated rules by the EPA. The long list of targeted environmental regulations include those limiting emissions from industrial boilers, pollution in the Chesapeake Bay and chemical discharges from Appalachian mountaintop coal mining…”
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/02/07-2

Need more? Let’s go flying!

“the Republican House of Representatives passed an amendment sponsored by Rep. Bill Shuster (R-PA) to a Republican-drafted aviation bill that would essentially gut the planned pilot fatigue rules by requiring extensive tailoring to many different segments of the aviation industry, and exempting several others.

Hero pilot Chesley “Sully” Sullenberger blasted the amendment yesterday before it passed, saying “it creates a huge obstacle to new regulations,” and that, “at some point in the future, we don’t know when, it’s likely people will die unnecessarily.” Last night on the Ed Show, Sullenberger said the bill is a “slap in the face” to the Flight 3407 families. He also decried “special interests only interested in the bottom line.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/04/01/gop-guts-flight-safety/

Ready for Lunch?

“In an effort to cut $58 billion from the federal budget for the second half of Fiscal Year 2011, House Republicans released a budget proposal late last week, one provision of which would mean steep cuts for food safety programs at both the FDA and USDA. Critics argue the reductions could cause a major hold-up on recently enacted food safety laws.”

http://washingtonindependent.com/105456/proposed-cuts-to-fda-usda-by-gop-could-suspend-encactment-of-food-safety-rules

And I NEVER want to hear another right winger on this blog complain about “Obama not closing the border” again:

“The House voted mostly along party lines over the weekend to slash spending by an estimated $600 million for border security and immigration enforcement for the remainder of this fiscal year.

The budget allocates $350 million less for border security fencing, infrastructure and technology than Congress approved last year, and $124 million below what the Department of Homeland Security requested.

The bill also cuts an estimated $159 million over last year for Customs and Border Protection modernization and construction programs, and is $40 million less than the agency sought to get the job done. ”
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-republicans-trim-border-security-budget-calls-resources/story?id=12965031

seek said:
You are playing the divisive card to the fullest and your lack of honesty is not acceptable.

I backed up my statement with the FACTS above. I challenge you to defend each of them. Don’t PUNK out like some of the other righties in here who think “because I said so” is a winning argument.

seek said:
What was this Country built on?

The forced removal and genocide of the indigenous peoples, generational chattel slavery of millions of Africans and the indentured servitude labor of both Asian and European immigrants.

seek said:
Why did our Forefathers write the constitution the way they did?

The made it amendable…so that future generations could have a chance to correct the abominations they didn’t have the courage to, namely…The forced removal and genocide of the indigenous peoples, generational chattel slavery of millions of Africans and the indentured servitude labor of both Asian and European immigrants.

seek said:
Why is it that Health Care Bill is waiting for a “ruling” from the Supreme Court?

Because Republicans show the the same lack of concern for the health of American citizens as they do for their safety.

seek said:
The lies don’t work there Cobra. No Republican ever said there is no need for the Federal Government.

Grover Norquist comes awful close:

“Norquist favors dramatically reducing the size of the government.[14] He has been noted for his widely quoted quip: “I don’t want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.”[35]

He has also stated, “Cutting the government in half in one generation is both an ambitious and reasonable goal. If we work hard we will accomplish this and more by 2025. Then the conservative movement can set a new goal. I have a recommendation: To cut government in half again by 2050″.[36] The Americans for Tax Reform mission statement is “The government’s power to control one’s life derives from its power to tax. We believe that power should be minimized.”[37]”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover_Norquist

–Cobra

Ajolily,

First there ARE thousands of wells in the Gulf. 4000.
Second, you don’t have to wait for Obama to shut those wells down. The Gulf of Mexico is Hurricane alley, remember?
Third, all of the oil drilled in the Gulf goes onto the WORLD MARKET.

–Cobra

Cobra said:
Ajolily, First there ARE thousands of wells in the Gulf. 4000.Second, you don’t have to wait for Obama to shut those wells down. The Gulf of Mexico is Hurricane alley, remember?Third, all of the oil drilled in the Gulf goes onto the WORLD MARKET. –Cobra

Yes there are about 4000 in the gulf but then I was just throwing out a larger number than one oil well like you mentioned. We have over 200,000 wells in the US. But the fact is that BP affecting the market in your example didn’t relate to the topic. My point that if we had the wells going that we could or should have would effect the market. Not only that the premise that the oil we produce would go into the world market is not so simple either. The companies that drill the oil are international and therefore “the WORLD MARKET” but if we give the rights to drill we can always put conditions on the product. This happened in Alaska when Palin took the big oil companies to task and made them quit sitting on the leases and not using them. You are very naive to think we have so little say in the world market if the product comes from our soil or waters.

Ajolly,

‘These are mulitinational corporations. BP stands for BRITISH PETROLEUM. Now, if you’re for the government creating a NATIONAL oil company that’s publically owned, like a utility, then I’m with you brother.

–Cobra

Cobra said:
Ajolly,

‘These are mulitinational corporations. BP stands for BRITISH PETROLEUM. Now, if you’re for the government creating a NATIONAL oil company that’s publically owned, like a utility, then I’m with you brother.

–Cobra

Oh, because you think the government will treat you right? That’s retarded.

Multinational doesn’t mean we don’t have any say if we issue them the leases, and that is the point. No I was not advocating a national company but would be all for several publicly owned oil companies. Several as we must always be careful of monopolies. Did you ever think we could agree on something? Will wonders never cease.

Ajolily said:
Multinational doesn’t mean we don’t have any say if we issue them the leases, and that is the point. No I was not advocating a national company but would be all for several publicly owned oil companies. Several as we must always be careful of monopolies. Did you ever think we could agree on something? Will wonders never cease.

Amen Brother. Why did this happen? Because we used facts and reason bringing us to a consensus opinion.

–Cobra

Not so sure we can celebrate as I think we should not examine the details much or we would be back to disagreeing. We agreed on one solution to the problem as it pertains to the US. Not on the point we were arguing which was the cause. Publicly owned companies are not in my opinion the best option as I don’t like government control but if it got us energy independence as I said I would be all for it.

Yukon Jack said:
Sometimes I wonder why is it that if Americans longed for a black President, why did they not have the courage and patience to wait for someone worth that honor, instead of electing the first one that came along?

I’ll tell you why, because of political correctness, multiculturalism and the diversity scam good and compassionate people were psychologically conditioned to express the emotion of completely undeserved white guilt and they were led to believe that by taking part in this great historical event of the first black president they would receive absolution for any past present or future racism.

What a crock of crap! Obama didn’t help race relations, he made them worse because anyone who disagreed with him whether it be political, philosophical or constitutional was automatically branded a racist! As everyone knows there could be no other reason to be against Obama. What a hassle, WHAT CRAP! I think the majority of people are onto this hostile now in the race cards did so overplayed it’s practically meaningless.

hgovernick said:
Hey, goofus… the oil discovered in the U.S. does not automatically become the oil OF the U.S…. it goes on the open market where the highest bidder gets it. In other words, how do you like it that your REPUBLICAN idols have made it easier for the oil companies to rape our land and sell our resources to China?

Hey, ignoranus (http://www.unwords.com/unword/ignoranus.html), when there is too much of something the price drops.

I know it’s a world market, but Obama has purposely worked to inhibit our supply. The Democrats have thwarted our efforts for decades.

So guess what, the price goes up and we’re all screwed. I blame liberals/Democrats and so do many people I know.

Plus, if we were supplying more OURSELVES, most of the money stays here. Wake up.

Alz said:
So guess what, the price goes up and we’re all screwed. I blame liberals/Democrats and so do many people I know.

Don’t forget that the Dollar is pegged to the Price of Oil so when our Central Bank (Federal Reserve) Centrally Plans our money to inflate through both printing money and buying worthless ‘assets’ the Price of Oil and Gas MUST increase. The price of gas today has much more to do with inflation than conflict.

Tack on that even though demand has risen over the last 30 years, the capacity for refining oil has been restricted to a much slower growth rate, we end up with more expensive gas.

So, ‘Obama’ restricts our oil supply, the Federal Reserve devalues the Dollar, refinement capacity is kept below our demand, and the price of gas goes up. Of course Obama is not really the cause for all of this, but since he takes credit for all of HIS work and ideas that other people come up with, we may as well blame it all on the low life socialist agitator.

Or should we? Are there dangers to placing the blame and focusing our anger at one person who obviously has no experience nor ability to do all the things he takes credit for? He’s tied to teleprompter for Christ’s sake. While he went to some impressive schools, he has no transcripts. You know shitty players sometimes make the All Star team.

Is there advantage to having people direct their attention to a faux cause? To a faux person?

Our issues come from the Two Party System Oligarchy. We have two Royal Families, the D’s and R’s, who are fighting to Centrally Plan our lives for us.

Since Washington DC has become our Brain, our Command Center, from where we not only take our general, but ever increasingly specific direction, and it is run by two opposing groups, can we expect anything less than chaos coming from a Schizophrenic Gov’t who’s two personalities suffering from narcissism that hate each other?

The solution is Subsidiarity, it is not trying to keep one half of a damaged brain in control of those who are capable of leading themselves.

jrcmi said:

Thumb up 1 Thumb down 6

Allen West knows all. He has a higher security clearance than the president . . . or so he claims . . . even though that’s not possible.

Six “thumbs down” must mean there are six people who believe Allen West DOES have a higher clearance than the prez – even though it’s STILL impossible.

Hail to the REAL Chief! Sheesh.

Yukon Jack said:
Sometimes I wonder why Democrats can not accept the fact that people THINK.

Primarily because of empty comments like yours. See? Wasn’t that easy?

The Lefties are afraid of this guy.

The degree of the fear can be matched by the volume of attacks. Tell-tell sign. ;)

Snowspot said:
At least the Democratic party doesn’t have THIRD WORLD CANDIDATES.. like the REpublicans, who have fanatical crazy people who want to make abortion illegal if you’re raped. If that isn’t an example of a third world country, I don’t know what is.

Sorry, don’t think that 1.21 million women were raped last year. ( Seems like abortion is used as a contraception. Poor immoral choice.) In fact, I know that’s wrong. Why? I used to work at the local rape crisis center.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html
January 2011
Nearly half of pregnancies among American women are unintended, and four in 10 of these are terminated by abortion.[1] Twenty-two percent of all pregnancies (excluding miscarriages) end in abortion.[2]

• Forty percent of pregnancies among white women, 69% among blacks and 54% among Hispanics are unintended.[1] In 2008, 1.21 million abortions were performed, down from 1.31 million in 2000. However, between 2005 and 2008, the long-term decline in abortions stalled. From 1973 through 2008, nearly 50 million legal abortions occurred.[2]

• Each year, two percent of women aged 15-44 have an abortion;[2] half have had at least one previous abortion.[6] At least half of American women will experience an unintended pregnancy by age 45[4], and, at current rates, about one-third will have had an abortion.[5]

Black and Gold Brad said:
So … … those 1200 Waivers are helping people ‘get’ insurance? Mind explaining that?

The devil is in the details…..and you dont’ know thedetails, such as, for instance, waivers were issued in situations where entities already had health plans that met requirements of the bill…. why not find out more about the waivers and then come back with your questions……but that would take effort, woudln’t it. Much easier to just accept any negative thing you hear or read, without asking any questions.

Jax_n_Jill said:
Hey cjd ohio 1 earlier I responded to you about exemptions…I meant “Don’t *forget illegals are exempt..from HC mandate…which Obama was against when he was trying to get the nomination.

Hey Jo Glack
The BLAZE! WHAT a surprise!….I found it when I clicked on the H/T
How about this, jaxoffjill,(maybe JackKanauph would have been funnier) in 1947 only 7% of the USRA wanted LCol. in THEIR Army? Glad this isn’t 1947!
Is he still Active Reserve? If so, he is disparaging a superior officer. He’s retired. Superior Officer??? LOL In the military we laughed at the term superior officer because most would throw you under the bus to save their butts.
If YOU served, what happened to YOUR respect for the chain of command? If I served???? You don’t think I did because I am a girl? Yes, my kids mom did wear combat boots! I followed the chain of command…I did not respect the chain of command because I was groped, sexually harassed by many in my chain of command and sexually assaulted by one so spare me! I love the military but they were still sweeping all that under the rug at that time.
There is a reason the Officer Corps used to not vote….Irrelevant!
They swear to serve the country(No kidding, we all did), not a party. (We didn’t have much respect for our politicians either and I still don’t)
No man can have two masters.(Sounds Racist) If West is still active, he should resign.
I wish Allen West was in my chain of command! I am sure he would have handled what happened to me waaaay better then my so called “Superior Officer”!

Asked if he would have acted differently if under similar circumstances again, West testified, “If it’s about the lives of my soldiers at stake, I’d go through hell with a gasoline can.”

Thank you for your service. I’m well aware of the sexual harassment that females experienced in the Armed Forces, something the libs that fought for the right of both sexes to serve together like to forget, and thusly brush under the rug.

Joseph Glackin said:
They did not. Now, YOU PROVE the US Army did not “draft” or “direct commission” people of both sexes who had skills the military needed. I had a school teacher who was “commissioned” in 1941 while she was visiting England because she had a degree and spoke German and Dutch. She spent WWII working for OSS with people like Julia Child. She was NOT given a choice.
When you do not know whereof you speak, STFU. In the end, you will seem smarter.

As much as I hate Wiki, it says you are wrong. Scrool down to WWII.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States

Only men signed up for Selective Service.

“The World War I system served as a model for that of World War II. The 1940 STSA instituted national conscription in peacetime, requiring registration of ALL MEN between twenty-one and forty-five, with selection for one year’s service by a national lottery. The term of service was extended by one year in August 1941. After Pearl Harbor the STSA was further amended (Dec. 19, 1941), extending the term of service to the duration of the war and six months and requiring the registration OF ALL MEN eighteen to sixty-four years of age. In the massive draft of World War II, 50 million men from eighteen to forty-five were registered, 36 million classified, and 10 million inducted.”

Ok, Josehph, found this link after doing an internet search Was your mom Puerto Rican? Those are the only nurses that I found in the search that were inducted into service.

“In 1944, the United States Army inducted large numbers of Puerto Rican troops to serve in the Caribbean and South Atlantic Theater of Operations. This resulted in the Army’s Antilles Department reversing their decision to not accept Puerto Rican nurses into the Army or Navy Nurse Corps. It was determined that Puerto Rican nurses could alleviate the growing language barrier in the hospitals. A plan to procure and commission Puerto Rican Nurses for service in the Army Nurse Corps resulted…..”

http://history.amedd.army.mil/ANCWebsite/articles/hispanicheritage.html

OK, found another one. Not Puerto Rican.
http://www.mydesert.com/article/20100101/NEWS01/1010302/Nurse+treated+wounded++ill+at+home+and+abroad

“Veona Vaillette worked stateside…” and overseas as a member of the U.S. Army Nurse Corps during World War II.

Nurses were in high demand during the war. She was inducted into service on March 17, 1945, and was sent to Madigan General Hospital in Fort Lewis, Wash., for basic training.

 West is right…and as a farmwife in the Midwest who is seeing the freedoms our great country vanish one by one I will not sit still about it!
If this does not get you thinking then nothing will. http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/05/obamas_second_term_transformation_plans.html#.T7PXZn5O-JE.facebook and then add to that another article from Dick Morris http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/dick-morris/209283-obamas-assault-on-america#dsq-content And the full picture begins to crystallize and it isn’t pretty!