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Bill O’Reilly And Megyn Kelly Rebuff Dana Milbank’s Charge Of Fox News Bias

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While some have (facetiously?) congratulated them for the actual results, Fox News had a really good election night. Not only were their ratings dominant, but they also earned significant praise from media critics who saw their analysis as more balanced than others. But not everyone saw it that way, namely Dana Milbank, who was harshly critical of what he saw as Fox News’ bias coverage. This predictably raised the ire of Bill O’Reilly and Megyn Kelly, who pushed back on last night’s Factor.

In the following clip, Kelly (who co-hosted Fox News’s election night coverage) defends the specific comments that Milbank claimed to be evidence of her bias. Milbank wrote on Wednesday:

As Fox’s Megyn Kelly announced that one Democratic senator, expected to lose big, was in a race “too close to call,” she commented: “That’s, uh, an interesting update.” When Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass), said by Fox commentators to be endangered, cruised to an easy win, Kelly commented: “Alas.”

The victory party would have to focus on the 60-seat gain Fox projected for Republicans in the House – an enormous win, though not at the upper end of the forecasts. Fox commentator Karl Rove, pleading for “perspective,” said it still qualified as a “blowout evening.” To be fair and balanced, Fox brought in a nominal Democrat, pollster Doug Schoen. “This is a complete repudiation of the Democratic Party,” he proclaimed.

We wrote on Wednesday “Milbank’s understandable critique of Fox News’ tone is diminished by his own lack of fairness in his reporting; it seems like he’d have the reader believe that Democratic pollster Doug Schoen was the lone left-of-center voice on the channel,” before listing the panoply of other left-of-center personalities. Kelly reiterated the proper context of her “alas” comment which, in fairness, was said in a different manner than the way it was presented by Milbank.

There is also the predictable (and oddly promotional?) shots at progressive media watchdog site Media Matters, but perhaps the oddest moment was the decision by O’Reilly and producers to put up an image of Milbank’s Washington Post editor Fred Hiatt, then following with a eerily threatening comment “Fred, have a nice weekend,” reaffirming O’Reilly’s trope as the bullying beat cop. Watch the segment from Fox News below.

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  • Pablo

    Oh, my. When you’ve lost the author of the #1 Nonseller “Tears of a Clown: Glenn Beck and the Tea Bagging of America” you’ve lost…a big Keith Olbermann fan.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Why waste time rebuffing BS from Dana Milbank of the Washington Post. The same “unbiased” paper’s Eugene Robinson (one of Olby’s favorite guests) said that racism had a lot to do with the results from Tuesday. When a newspaper’s columnists say asinine things like this, you’re forced to crawl into the gutter to respond.

  • Pablo

    Eugene Robinson can’t blow his nose without fretting over the racial implications inherent in the act. Why are facial tissues so overwhelmingly white? Systemic racism.

    Is the WaPo still killing trees these days?

  • paulmdoro

    What kind of toast does O’Reilly prefer? Probably white. Why? He’s racist. For real though, ignoring this Milbank story altogether would have been wise. It would have quietly gone away. Easier said than done though since it specifically attacks O’Reilly’s employer.

  • tatboy

    Why is Fox News addressing the ASSertions of a tool that can’t even sell 1000 copies of his book???

  • paulmdoro

    tatboy said:
    Why is Fox News addressing the ASSertions of a tool that can’t even sell 1000 copies of his book???

    It’s hard to ignore someone who takes a shot at you, even if that person isn’t worth your time or effort. Happens here all the time.

  • notsofast

    paulmdoro said:
    What kind of toast does O’Reilly prefer? Probably white. Why? He’s racist.

    You would know all about racism, you racist. You lost!

    Ha! Ha! Ha!

  • JimBob

    Call it what you like. Eugene Robinson is one of the dumbest assholes
    appearing on MSNBC. Has anyone here ever been able to sit through
    one of his statements? Honestly!!

  • notsofast

    JimBob said:
    Call it what you like. Eugene Robinson is one of the dumbest assholes
    appearing on MSNBC. Has anyone here ever been able to sit through
    one of his statements? Honestly!!

    He is MSNBC’s house negro, and he made a complete ass out of himself Tuesday night, comically chortling in the background like an intoxicated Harlequin doing his court jester dance for the white libs who employ and patronize his pitiful ass.

  • writer

    The extreme far left says Fox is biased. Who would have guessed?

  • The Real Royal King

    Two very thinned-skinned people.

  • The Real Royal King

    notsofast said:
    He is MSNBC’s house negro, and he made a complete ass out of himself Tuesday night, comically chortling in the background like an intoxicated Harlequin doing his court jester dance for the white libs who employ and patronize his pitiful ass.

    And one very racist poster. I assume you watch FOX “News” regularly?

  • writer

    Like Obama’s constant whining about Fox. Very thin skinned.

  • notsofast

    The Real Royal King said:
    And one very racist poster.

    LOL

    Bring it on , racist!

    Bring it on!

  • Latin2

    Pablo said:
    Oh, my. When you’ve lost the author of the #1 Nonseller “Tears of a Clown: Glenn Beck and the Tea Bagging of America” you’ve lost…a big Keith Olbermann fan.

    …and I believe he sold 16,000 copies of his book…or was it 1,600…LOLOLOLOL

  • writer

    And one very racist poster.

    Yes you are, King. Your hatred of whites and Asians is off the charts. But we’ve gotten used to it.

  • The Real Royal King

    notsofast said:
    LOL

    Bring it on , racist!

    Bring it on!

    Does that mean I am correct, Nutso? You do watch FOX “News” regularly?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    Megyn Kelly is so biased she forgets that this is a democracy and that 53% of the electorate voted in THE most liberal senator in the senate… This is a joke. The reason why Fox dominates is becasue there is ONE conservative propaganda network. MSNBC is the only alternative but liberals aren’t lock step robots so they ewatch CNN, ABC, CBS or don’t watch at all. If there was another conservative network fox wouldn’t have near the ratings. This is hot air… Nothing more. Mediate (Dan Abrams) shows the ax it has to grind with MSNBC everyday by giving this so much play.

  • writer

    Maybe he has some Japanese Americans interned in his back yard. But that would be admirable, right King?

  • writer

    MSNBC is the only alternative.

    Yes. Damn those far rightists like Katie Couric and Brian Williams.

  • NORBIT

    Hey Dana,
    There’s an MSNBC host seat somewhere with your name on it! – and your twit editor as well.

    Hey all, remember when the Washington Post still had some modicum of credibility?
    ———————————————————————

    On a happier note, the Liar-In-Chief will be out of the country for 10 days, and despite the disputed cost of the trip, it’ll still be less than if he stayed here!

    Maybe he can find a nation in the far east looking for an authoritarian junta, and relocate his Democratic Party there!

  • paulmdoro

    notsofast said:
    He is MSNBC’s house negro, and he made a complete ass out of himself Tuesday night, comically chortling in the background like an intoxicated Harlequin doing his court jester dance for the white libs who employ and patronize his pitiful ass.

    And you called me a racist for what was clearly a joke (of course you didn’t get it). Priceless.

  • lonestar77

    So Millbank, a far-lefty, flat out lies yet his normal critique of FNC is “understandable”. O’Reilly points out that he’s a liar so he’s a “bullying beat cop”. Thanks, Colby.

    Serious question for ya Colbs: Why do all of you lefty journolists have to take shots at FNC no matter what? The story here is Millbank. He lied. But, you and your cohorts are incapable of staying on topic. Is it hatred, jealousy or both that cause you to be unable to write something about FNC without finding a way to take a shot at them? If Neil Armstrong worked at FNC, you’d praise him for walking on the moon, then throw in a shot about his carbon footprint or something.

  • paulmdoro

    I notice too that many of you here jump all over King about racism but say nothing when notsofast posts one of his ignorant, hateful comments. Selective outrage. Removes all your credibility on the subject.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Dave Noland says:
    Megyn Kelly is so biased

    Prove it, Dave. You know with actual evidence.

    Keith,
    Ready to admit you lied about the Chinese bank-rolling R candidates? You know they say confession is good for the soul.

  • writer

    Back when Harry Belafonte referred to Colin Powell as a house negro, the left didn’t seem to mind at all. I’m sure that outrage will be coming any minute now.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    paulmdoro says:
    I notice too that many of you here jump all over King about racism but say nothing when notsofast posts one of his ignorant, hateful comments. Selective outrage. Removes all your credibility on the subject.

    Actually Paul, more of us that are right of center think this whole racisit “debate”is comical. We treat it as a joke because the libs have so jumped the shark with it, it just doesn’t mean anything anymore. Usually, when we call someone racist, we just do it because the libs constantly say EVERYTHING is racist so what’s fair is fair. Forgive me for speaking for the group and feel free to disagree.

  • Pat Quinn

    You should be fired now Billo, Showing that guys picture and name and then saying have a nice weekend? Guess you want him to get Dr. Tillered.

  • paulmdoro

    writer said:
    Back when Harry Belafonte referred to Colin Powell as a house negro, the left didn’t seem to mind at all. I’m sure that outrage will be coming any minute now.

    This doesn’t change the fact that many of you here attack King while ignoring notsofast. Nice try though.

  • paulmdoro

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    paulmdoro says:
    I notice too that many of you here jump all over King about racism but say nothing when notsofast posts one of his ignorant, hateful comments. Selective outrage. Removes all your credibility on the subject.

    Actually Paul, more of us that are right of center think this whole racisit “debate”is comical. We treat it as a joke because the libs have so jumped the shark with it, it just doesn’t mean anything anymore. Usually, when we call someone racist, we just do it because the libs constantly say EVERYTHING is racist so what’s fair is fair. Forgive me for speaking for the group and feel free to disagree.

    This has nothing to do with what I am talking about. I am talking about attacking someone while completely ignoring someone else for essentially the same thing. King gets bashed while no one says anything about notsofast, who routinely posts things just as offensive as anything King has ever said.

  • Pat Quinn

    notsofast said:
    He is MSNBC’s house negro, and he made a complete ass out of himself Tuesday night, comically chortling in the background like an intoxicated Harlequin doing his court jester dance for the white libs who employ and patronize his pitiful ass.

    Pulitizer Prize winning “house negro” you gutter racist.

  • writer

    Difference is, paul, the King makes the most hateful insults imaginable, then in the next post starts talking about his church attendance and how compassionate he is. At least be up front about it.

  • paulmdoro

    writer said:
    Difference is, paul, the King makes the most hateful insults imaginable, then in the next post starts talking about his church attendance and how compassionate he is. At least be up front about it.

    Huh? This means King deserves condemnation for his remarks while notsofast gets a free pass?

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Paul, you’re missing my point. We don’t jump on notsofast because he’s using satire. He’s doing that because folks like King are constantly calling everyone racist in a serious tone. It’s become such a joke that we have made a joke about it. I do not think notsofast or anyone else on the right is racist here, but I do wonder about folks like King and Cobra. I think they very well might be.

  • paulmdoro

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Paul, you’re missing my point. We don’t jump on notsofast because he’s using satire. He’s doing that because folks like King are constantly calling everyone racist in a serious tone. It’s become such a joke that we have made a joke about it. I do not think notsofast or anyone else on the right is racist here, but I do wonder about folks like King and Cobra. I think they very well might be.

    He is most definitely not using satire. You really believe that? Wow. That’s frightening.

  • writer

    paul, I don’t really mind the two sides insulting each other. It’s part of the give and take. What gets me is the King’s hypocrisy. I don’t mind him being mean. I mind when he tries to pretend he isn’t.

  • VRWC Destruction Machine

    paulmdoro said:
    What kind of toast does O’Reilly prefer? Probably white. Why? He’s racist. For real though, ignoring this Milbank story altogether would have been wise. It would have quietly gone away. Easier said than done though since it specifically attacks O’Reilly’s employer.

    Ignoring the story takes the fun out of pointing out the idiots.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    I absolutely believe he’s trying to be funny. On the other side, King thinks he’s funny, when in reality we are laughing at him and not with him.

  • musiccityvic

    Milbank’s understandable critique of Fox News’ tone……. Kelly reiterated the proper context of her “alas” comment which, in fairness, was said in a different manner than the way it was presented by Milbank.

    Colby, I don’t think the word “understandable” should ever apply to the likes Milbank. You yourself interject how bad his hit piece was. Delusional or MSNBC like critique would be more accurate. Don’t worry though, if Milbank ever does get fired from the compost, he can join the rest of the objective staff at Media Matters.

  • NORBIT

    Ssshhhhh…..listen……that’s the sound of the progressives’ world getting smaller…and smaller…and smaller…then Poof!
    —————————

    THANK YOU BARRY!

  • Hugo Daun

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Forgive me for speaking for the group…

    Well, since you have so many MediaITE accounts, you actually represent a group. sorta…

  • Big Eddie

    At the very least , Milbank should write a retraction for his two lies , and they are lies , not misstatements . Even his liberal friends know it . …If no apology to the readers for lying , Hiatt should fire Milbank , and then himself .

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jon-Martin/43100610 Jon Martin

    NORBIT said:
    Ssshhhhh…..listen……that’s the sound of the progressives’ world getting smaller…and smaller…and smaller…then Poof!
    —————————

    THANK YOU BARRY!

    No, that’s actually the sound of Republicans calling up their lobbyist friends and congratulating them for winning the Senate.

    You think all your grassroots work was what won this midterm election? Nah, rich people spending milllions of dollars did.

    You morons won’t see it for a few more years though, kind of like Bush. Watch as Republicans deregulate everything, inflate our currency, ruin our economy and ruin the environment.

    You really think Obama did this? HA! This pain our country is feeling is still on Bush’s tab.. you guys really have no idea what you’ve done lol.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jon-Martin/43100610 Jon Martin

    GAH I meant house :P

  • NORBIT

    Big Eddie said:
    At the very least , Milbank should write a retraction for his two lies , and they are lies , not misstatements . Even his liberal friends know it . …If no apology to the readers for lying , Hiatt should fire Milbank , and then himself .

    Big Eddie,

    If they don’t heed your advice, will it be time for you to make them an offer they can’t refuse? lol!

  • BlackWidow

    JimBob said:
    Call it what you like. Eugene Robinson is one of the dumbest assholesappearing on MSNBC. Has anyone here ever been able to sit throughone of his statements? Honestly!!

    JimBob please give me a name of a black man you admire. No sports figures please.

  • cjd ohio 1

    hey at least larwence odonnel admit he was a socialist this morning

  • maxine

    Hugo Daun said:
    Well, since you have so many MediaITE accounts, you actually represent a group. sorta…

    And collectively they (she) can’t come up with an original thought.

  • NORBIT

    @ Jon Martin,

    “Inflate our currency…” – Do you mean like the $600 Billion that Bernanke just authorized; oh wait, isn’t that under Obama’s stewardship (such as it is!)?

  • BlackWidow

    paulmdoro said:
    Huh? This means King deserves condemnation for his remarks while notsofast gets a free pass?

    Now you know exactly how a Repugs brain works. NUTSO uses satire but King is a racist. YEA RIGHT Michele.

  • BlackWidow

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    I absolutely believe he’s trying to be funny. On the other side, King thinks he’s funny, when in reality we are laughing at him and not with him.

    Michele that is sad!! Were you born mean or did that happen when you became Republican????

  • beamangrow

    why are is bill orieley trying to rebuff dana milbank? what is the point? you have to be 8 years old to think fox is news or fair or balanced. How stupid are people?Fox is like a D student.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    JimBob please give me a name of a black man you admire. No sports figures please.

    Allow me, spiderlady:

    Clarence Thomas
    Allen West
    Condi Rice (do woman count?)

    Take your race-baiting somewhere else, it’s getting tired!

  • writer

    The King is a racist. On another thread, the King himself said that the Japanese internment during WWII was a racist act. He’s also said that he named his cat after FDR, the man responsible for the internment. Not too many ways to interpret that.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    I also greatly admire Bill Cosby for daring to speak the truth you libs hate to hear.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    JC Watts, love him!

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Mr Snerdly, love him! He tells it like it is!

  • NORBIT

    Want to throw Abject Fear into the Democrats future electoral plans in just two easy words?

    MARCO & RUBIO!

    LOL!

  • maxine

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Usually, when we call someone racist, we just do it because the libs constantly say EVERYTHING is racist so what’s fair is fair.

    And that is an acceptable rebuttal? That clearly shows your lack of intelligence and adds absolutely to the argument. In fact, it clearly shows that the right played… what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. This campaign was nothing but tit for tat. You guys state on here that “Barry” is not qualified and is only a community organizer”. And basically this showed if you can do we can to! Only we can do worse than you! Not realizing that the Repubs were using the tea party and will gladly throw them under the bus, now that their use is over. If you think/believe that they want to make any changes to business as usual, your being foolish. Even as the democrats have proven that as well, for the most part. IMO No matter what is done, by either party, the middle to under will continue to suffer. If the dems tax the rich, the consumer will take the brunt of it. We all know that business/corps try to recoup their losses by raising the price of their goods. If the reps get their way, they still will outsource jobs and more and more people will be jobless. At least the dems try to provide safety nets, while the reps will let you hang out to dry. Safety nets are not the long term answer, but fend for yourself in an environment that offers little to no hope is not either. The only thing I heard was that they would try to help and provide more opportunity to create small business’s. Not everyone has the money to start their own business. Many people depend on working for one. Ok, so more small business’s provide some jobs, but I don’t think it will be enough for the masses, especially as corporations outsource more jobs that small business’s can provide.

  • maxine

    *absolutely nothing to the argument.

  • paulmdoro

    writer said:
    paul, I don’t really mind the two sides insulting each other. It’s part of the give and take. What gets me is the King’s hypocrisy. I don’t mind him being mean. I mind when he tries to pretend he isn’t.

    Fair enough writer. Makes sense.

  • paulmdoro

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    I absolutely believe he’s trying to be funny. On the other side, King thinks he’s funny, when in reality we are laughing at him and not with him.

    He is not trying to be funny. Not even close. Come on. It’s who he is. He has insulted me enough times and called me enough names for me to know without a doubt that he is being serious. There’s no question. Open your eyes.

  • Cecelia

    I agree with O’Reilly, FNC’s incredible election night success is largely attributable to Megyn.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    For one night, Fox Republican/tea Party Propaganda offered a more or less balanced coverage of the election results, and they now want to claim the high ground of fairness and balance? By Tuesday evening, the damage was done; they had their viewers brainwashed, make that programmed that the sorry state of the economy was due to Obama and not the clowns who flushed the economy down the toilet.

    Well, watch what happens to the economy now that Congress is gridlocked.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/angry-voters-choose-gover_b_778652.html/

    I hope Cesca is wrong, but when the R’s say “no compromise,” you have to believe that they mean it. In other words, they have no interest in the give and take that makes democratic order work.

  • JimBob

    Black Widow
    You made me eliminate athletes. To bad there are many in many sports i admire
    and envy. I wish I had the talent and money making abilities! But for sheer guts and talent
    I will name Jackie and Willie for what they went through in their era. To name a few blacks I admire
    JC Watts, Clarence Thomas, Bill Cosby, Oprah, Benjamin Davis, Condy Rice, Aretha, Gladys Knight,
    Thurgood Marshall, Dr. King, I could go on and on in every walk of life, but don’t feel like typing and you should have the point by now. I don’t give a damn what color Eugene Robinson is or how many prizes he has been awarded. When I do tune in I see him as an idiot! There are not very many whites I see on MSNBC
    that impress me either.
    Please don’t give me that racist bullshit. It don’t fly with me!!!

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    GBR, the American people elected the R’s to undo what Obama did. It’s YOUR side that will have to compromise.

  • musiccityvic

    GlennBeckReview said:
    For one night, Fox Republican/tea Party Propaganda offered a more or less balanced coverage of the election results, and they now want to claim the high ground of fairness and balance? By Tuesday evening, the damage was done; they had their viewers brainwashed, make that programmed that the sorry state of the economy was due to Obama and not the clowns who flushed the economy down the toilet. Well, watch what happens to the economy now that Congress is gridlocked.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/angry-voters-choose-gover_b_778652.html/ I hope Cesca is wrong, but when the R’s say “no compromise,” you have to believe that they mean it. In other words, they have no interest in the give and take that makes democratic order work.

    Typical Progressive idiocy. Every Republican, Conservative, and Tea party person isn’t smart enough to make their own choices, they only watch Fox News who tells them what to do. Of course you get all YOUR marching orders from the Huff Post, MSNBC, Media Matters, and the Unions. We’ll see what happens to the economy now. Liberalism fails everywhere it is tried. Even Countries in Europe have rolled back spending and are trying to get the progressives off the dole, but generations of programmed losers are now demanding that they get their government check for doing nothing. The entire country was brainwashed by Fox News and wait GLENN BECK to vote in 680 Republicans into the State Houses, 60 Plus House Members, 30 Plus Governorships, and 6 Senate Seats. All the people that voted were stupid. Only the 20% Progressives were smart enough to vote for Alan Grayson and Barbara Boxer, and Jerry Brown. Good Luck California, no bailout coming your way.

  • JimBob

    Hot Damn!
    GBR has made it through about four posts this week without mentioning Beck!
    Therapy helping.

  • writer

    When you put it that way, you make it sound as if GBR is biased.

  • paulmdoro

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    GBR, the American people elected the R’s to undo what Obama did. It’s YOUR side that will have to compromise.

    Did your side go out of its way to compromise in ’06 and ’08?

  • paulmdoro

    musiccityvic said:
    but generations of programmed losers are now demanding that they get their government check for doing nothing.

    Including many of my conservative relatives. I for one am anxious to see what spending cuts the GOP suggests.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Paul, R’s tried to compromise when the HC debate was going on and BO reminded them that HE WON and their advise wasn’t needed.

  • paulmdoro

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Paul, R’s tried to compromise when the HC debate was going on and BO reminded them that HE WON and their advise wasn’t needed.

    One example? That’s all you’ve got. Of course I expected you to say that the GOP went out of their way to compromise after losing in ’06 and ’08. You might be the most partisan poster here. Everything is black and white in your world. And defending notsofast as satire? That is just despicable and inexcusable.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    That is just despicable and inexcusable.

    Fortunately, I don’t really care what your opinion is of me.

  • paulmdoro

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    That is just despicable and inexcusable.

    Fortunately, I don’t really care what your opinion is of me.

    That’s fine Michelle, but maybe you should ask yourself if defending the ignorant and hateful comments of another poster here is admirable behavior. Believe it or not, some of the conservatives here are just as bad and sometimes even worse than King. I have been called every name in the book by notsofast. The fact that someone else would defend him says a lot about that person. I would think you’d strive to be above that, as someone who has been the victim of mean-spirited, often hateful attacks here.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Paul,
    You’re right, I’ve been the target of some very vile comments, and not many libs came to my defense. I’m sorry it disappoints you that I won’t condemn notsofast, but I honestly feel that his over-the-top style is mostly satirical. Unlike King, Iris, Ted, BFD, Jackie, Donna, and others, who I believe genuinely believe hate conservatives. I don’t think notsofast hates you or anyone here, I think he just loves to raz you. Kind of like me, I do it for laughs, not out of hate.

  • paulmdoro

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Paul,
    You’re right, I’ve been the target of some very vile comments, and not many libs came to my defense. I’m sorry it disappoints you that I won’t condemn notsofast, but I honestly feel that his over-the-top style is mostly satirical. Unlike King, Iris, Ted, BFD, Jackie, Donna, and others, who I believe genuinely believe hate conservatives. I don’t think notsofast hates you or anyone here, I think he just loves to raz you. Kind of like me, I do it for laughs, not out of hate.

    Michelle, I have been on the receiving end of notsofast’s vile comments. He has called me vulgar things numerous times. He was not kidding around. A person knows. I would never suggest that King wasn’t serious when he attacked your religion. In fact, I criticized him for that. In no way is notsofast being satirical. I really don’t think he’d even know how. He genuinely hates liberals, as many posters here do. Most people here can easily pick up what is satire and what is not. As someone who has been repeatedly attacked by notsofast, I assure you he is not being satirical. That is really him. It is possible for conservatives to be hateful you know. He’s a bad apple.

  • felixw

    You couldn’t make this stuff up. Megyn Kelly says, during the course of a six-hour broadcast ““That’s, uh, an interesting update.” And Dana Milbank, at the rabidly partisan Washington Post, highlights this as an example of bias? Excuse me, but did Milbank check out the MSNBC broadcast, by any chance? (Maybe he missed out because he was HYPNOTIZED!)

    If the Post had any credibility left, they would have lost it right here. But fortunately for Milbank and his peers, no one expects anything better than this from the Post nowadays. So their reputation remains unchanged.

  • paulmdoro

    felixw said:
    You couldn’t make this stuff up. Megyn Kelly says, during the course of a six-hour broadcast ““That’s, uh, an interesting update.” And Dana Milbank, at the rabidly partisan Washington Post, highlights this as an example of bias? Excuse me, but did Milbank check out the MSNBC broadcast, by any chance? (Maybe he missed out because he was HYPNOTIZED!)

    If the Post had any credibility left, they would have lost it right here. But fortunately for Milbank and his peers, no one expects anything better than this from the Post nowadays. So their reputation remains unchanged.

    Do you subscribe to The Washington Post?

  • http://www.danzview.blogspot.com Eyepublius

    Rebuff all they want – the FOX and FUNDS bottom line is and remains: “Watch, believe, and trust us and no one else.”

    Does it work – just ask FOX and see … but arrogant, bs’ing and total irrationality come to mind.

    ~ Dan Francis (Watertown, NY)

  • ROCKSTEADY

    NORBIT said:
    On a happier note, the Liar-In-Chief will be out of the country for 10 days, and despite the disputed cost of the trip, it’ll still be less than if he stayed here!
    Maybe he can find a nation in the far east looking for an authoritarian junta, and relocate his Democratic Party there

    You are such a non American and have absolutly no patriatism in your body.You must work for fox.The Un American Un patriotic channel.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Paul,
    If I’m reading notsofast wrong and he isn’t being satirical in his statements, and really does hate you and all libs, then I aboslutely condemn it. As for me, the things I say are never meant to be hateful, no matter how many libs call me hateful or bitter. Like I said, I find it amusing to battle with libs and nothing more. I happen to have several lib friends and we can banter without it ever turning ugly. That’s the way it should be. Do I go too far sometimes, here? Probably. I’m a work in progress!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Hogan/179500970 Stephen Hogan

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Paul, R’s tried to compromise when the HC debate was going on and BO reminded them that HE WON and their advise wasn’t needed.

    I distinctly remember a televised round-table on the subject, where each side had their fair share of time to speak.

    I also distinctly remember compromising from a public option (which polled higher than any other outcome) to non-profit co-ops and finally to health insurance regulation. I remember having to drop free end-of-life counseling because someone (who I shall not name) started to call them ‘death panels’. A lot of meaningful reform was sacrificed for compromise and nothing came of it.

    The very nature of a compromise involves not getting everything that you want. Over the past two years, Congressional Republicans seem to have forgotten that.

  • ROCKSTEADY

    lonestar77 said:
    Serious question for ya

    If you have such an issue here at this sight why do you come here as so many people?Do you really need all those others to get your small opinion known?Sad.

  • paulmdoro

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Paul,
    If I’m reading notsofast wrong and he isn’t being satirical in his statements, and really does hate you and all libs, then I aboslutely condemn it. As for me, the things I say are never meant to be hateful, no matter how many libs call me hateful or bitter. Like I said, I find it amusing to battle with libs and nothing more. I happen to have several lib friends and we can banter without it ever turning ugly. That’s the way it should be. Do I go too far sometimes, here? Probably. I’m a work in progress!

    I don’t think you’re hateful Michelle, and I enjoy the banter as well (and also go too far sometimes). The nastiness from some takes the fun out of it, but that’s the Internet for ya. I think people can disagree without being cruel about it. I argue politics with family all the time.

  • VRWC Destruction Machine

    GlennBeckReview said:
    For one night, Fox Republican/tea Party Propaganda offered a more or less balanced coverage of the election results, and they now want to claim the high ground of fairness and balance? By Tuesday evening, the damage was done; they had their viewers brainwashed, make that programmed that the sorry state of the economy was due to Obama and not the clowns who flushed the economy down the toilet. Well, watch what happens to the economy now that Congress is gridlocked.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/angry-voters-choose-gover_b_778652.html/ I hope Cesca is wrong, but when the R’s say “no compromise,” you have to believe that they mean it. In other words, they have no interest in the give and take that makes democratic order work.

    Cesca is whining the Republicans won’t compromise. Who’s the one that said after the 2008 election “We won” and just said his party was in the driver’s seat and the Republicans had to be satisfied being in the back seat.? Obama was essentially saying it was his way or the highway. You blaming Fox News and the Tea party for the devisiveness in government is ludicrous. You and Cesca are two peas in the pod going with the Democratic narrative of Republican obstructionism. Also, I am not ignoring the fact you are still blaming the Republicans for the current economic mess. Yes, the economy was in the hole when Obama came into the White House, but he and the Democrats spent the last two years blaming Bush, pushing an unpopular agenda and having increased deficit spending and adding to the debt at a record pace. What can Obama and the Democrats show America for a good job performance rating? It doesn’t show at the unemployment office, the supermarket or the gas station. Oh, the lines are bigger at Wal Mart and MacDonald’s that at Macy’s or the Red Lobster.

  • paulmdoro

    I think both parties talk a good game when it comes to compromise, but the reality is usually very different.

  • musiccityvic

    paulmdoro said:
    Including many of my conservative relatives. I for one am anxious to see what spending cuts the GOP suggests.

    Here are some ideas. Get rid of every new Federal Union Job that Obama created to grow the government by 23% since he took office. Goodbye Obamacare which will cost trillions and won’t reduce the deficit a dime. Time for the Dept of Education to go. I know, oh those poor children. Education scores have plummeted since it was created and the policies are polluted with the progressive agenda. Write a law that doesn’t allow unionizing of Federal Jobs. Develop a graduated schedule to eliminate the pension plans in place for the federal unions and politicians and replace them with a contributory 401K plan like the rest of us have. Overhaul SS# by allowing people over 45 to opt out now and into a tax deferred or eliminated 401K type plan. They can keep their current plan if they’d like to. People under 45 will be given tax credits for what they have contributed already which can be taken in a lump sum or over a period of time. They can then participate in a 401K type retirement plan that is portable or participate in a government SS plan with a fixed rate of return. The funds put into these accounts are not to be directed into the general fund but are used only for these accounts. Reform Welfare and the Earned Income Credit programs where you use them as a safety net and not a way of life. You can collect the credits or be on the welfare roles for a set number of years in a 10 year period, my pick would be 5. It can be increased if there is a death to the primary money earner.

    People are going to have to think outside of the box on both sides. You can’t be afraid to change things and make people accountable. There should always be programs that are safety nets and not lifestyles. I don’t want to hear about how Liberal policies have kept people from squaller and dying in the streets. If that was the case then all these big urban centers that have been run strictly by Liberals for 50 years or more are all decaying suckholes with people who have been stuck on welfare with no hope for 2 or 3 generations. Big liberal controlled cities have terrible school systems and high crime rates. Lets try something else to help people lift out of poverty. Handouts don’t work. Accountability does.

  • notsofast

    The Real Royal King said:
    You do watch FOX “News” regularly?

    You watch MSNBC which causes your “irregularity.”

  • notsofast

    </blockquote

    Dave Noland said:
    This is a joke. The reason why Fox dominates is becasue there is ONE conservative propaganda network. MSNBC is the only alternative but liberals aren’t lock step robots so they ewatch CNN, ABC, CBS or don’t watch at all. If there was another conservative network fox wouldn’t have near the ratings.

    LOL

    You are the biggest dullard in the world. What you just said is that there is only ONE- got it- ONLY ONE conservative TV broadcast versus all the other lib TV networks.

    It looks like reality has finally arrived at your cretin brain.

  • paulmdoro

    musiccityvic said:
    Here are some ideas. Get rid of every new Federal Union Job that Obama created to grow the government by 23% since he took office. Goodbye Obamacare which will cost trillions and won’t reduce the deficit a dime. Time for the Dept of Education to go. I know, oh those poor children. Education scores have plummeted since it was created and the policies are polluted with the progressive agenda. Write a law that doesn’t allow unionizing of Federal Jobs. Develop a graduated schedule to eliminate the pension plans in place for the federal unions and politicians and replace them with a contributory 401K plan like the rest of us have. Overhaul SS# by allowing people over 45 to opt out now and into a tax deferred or eliminated 401K type plan. They can keep their current plan if they’d like to. People under 45 will be given tax credits for what they have contributed already which can be taken in a lump sum or over a period of time. They can then participate in a 401K type retirement plan that is portable or participate in a government SS plan with a fixed rate of return. The funds put into these accounts are not to be directed into the general fund but are used only for these accounts. Reform Welfare and the Earned Income Credit programs where you use them as a safety net and not a way of life. You can collect the credits or be on the welfare roles for a set number of years in a 10 year period, my pick would be 5. It can be increased if there is a death to the primary money earner.

    People are going to have to think outside of the box on both sides. You can’t be afraid to change things and make people accountable. There should always be programs that are safety nets and not lifestyles. I don’t want to hear about how Liberal policies have kept people from squaller and dying in the streets. If that was the case then all these big urban centers that have been run strictly by Liberals for 50 years or more are all decaying suckholes with people who have been stuck on welfare with no hope for 2 or 3 generations. Big liberal controlled cities have terrible school systems and high crime rates. Lets try something else to help people lift out of poverty. Handouts don’t work. Accountability does.

    Lots of generalizations and not a lot of facts there. Conservatives would have more credibility when it comes to complaining about handouts if so many of them didn’t gladly accept handouts every chance they get.

  • paulmdoro

    notsofast said:
    You watch MSNBC which causes your “irregularity.”

    notsofast said:
    </blockquote

    LOL

    You are the biggest dullard in the world. What you just said is that there is only ONE- got it- ONLY ONE conservative TV broadcast versus all the other lib TV networks.

    It looks like reality has finally arrived at your cretin brain.

    Just more satire?

  • notsofast

    Pat Quinn said:
    Pulitizer Prize winning “house negro” you gutter racist.

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, so all of you libs calling Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, Colon Powell ,etc. “Uncle Tom’s” and “House Negros” was OK, but its “racist” to say it about that deplorable lap dogEugene Robinson?

    From the DailyKos on Powell:

    Uncle Tom Powell Stumps for Massah Bush
    by Soj
    Mon Apr 12, 2004 at 03:31:55 PM PDT

    Yes suh! Yes suh! Right away suh!”

    “Condoleezza Rice Won’t Be Alone at Uncle Toms Cabin ”

    Belafonte won’t back down from Powell House Nigger reference

    By Sinclere Lee

    NEW YORK (BNW) — Singer Harry Belafonte is holding his ground and on Tuesday refused to back down from his remarks last week calling Secretary of State Colin Powell a house nigger in the Bush administration. Belafonte said his problems are not with the man but with the policies Powell is supporting.”

    So now kindly take your selective lib outrage and cram it up your hypocritical arse!

    Exhibit A: April 9, 2004 State Department briefing:

  • notsofast

    paulmdoro said:
    paulmdoro says:
    November 5, 2010 at 2:49 pm paulmdoro(Quote)

    Please remind me of who you are.

  • paulmdoro

    notsofast said:
    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, so all of you libs calling Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, Colon Powell ,etc. “Uncle Tom’s” and “House Negros” was OK, but its “racist” to say it about that deplorable lap dogEugene Robinson?

    From the DailyKos on Powell:

    Uncle Tom Powell Stumps for Massah Bush
    by Soj
    Mon Apr 12, 2004 at 03:31:55 PM PDT

    Yes suh! Yes suh! Right away suh!”

    “Condoleezza Rice Won’t Be Alone at Uncle Toms Cabin ”

    Belafonte won’t back down from Powell House Nigger reference

    By Sinclere Lee

    NEW YORK (BNW) — Singer Harry Belafonte is holding his ground and on Tuesday refused to back down from his remarks last week calling Secretary of State Colin Powell a house nigger in the Bush administration. Belafonte said his problems are not with the man but with the policies Powell is supporting.”

    So now kindly take your selective lib outrage and cram it up your hypocritical arse!

    Exhibit A: April 9, 2004 State Department briefing:

    None of that means you are not a racist. You are. I’m sure your mother is very proud.

  • musiccityvic

    paulmdoro said:
    Lots of generalizations and not a lot of facts there. Conservatives would have more credibility when it comes to complaining about handouts if so many of them didn’t gladly accept handouts every chance they get.

    I’m sorry but I can’t write a book report in a comment section. They are generalizations but they are ideas to consider. What do you consider handouts? Lower Taxes? Lower taxes and the economic affects of them are a philosophy the same as higher taxes and big government spending is a liberal philosophy. I’m not sure what you are talking about in handouts. Do you think giving someone welfare payments in perpetuity is good for that person? I’m fiscally conservative but more socially moderate, but I think people need to be accountable for their own actions.

    I’d be happy to hear some of your ideas.

  • notsofast

    paulmdoro said:
    paulmdoro says:
    November 5, 2010 at 3:07 pm paulmdoro(Quote)

    And you are whom?

    Please continue to call me a racist! I love how it rolls off your lips and into your ass.

  • paulmdoro

    I assumed you were referring to welfare checks with handouts. People should be accountable for their actions, but there’s also a knee-jerk tendency to paint every single person who accepts welfare as evil. I think it’s more complicated than that. I also have numerous conservative relatives who bitch and moan about the socialist government while they sit around unemployed and only have a roof over their heads because of a welfare check. There’s also corporate welfare, which benefits a lot of the same GOP politicians that like to bitch and moan about the evil of government handouts. Lots of hypocrisy from the right on welfare.

    I would like to see cuts in defense spending. At more than $700 billion it’s over half of all discretionary spending. A good place to start. Entitlement spending is tougher.

  • paulmdoro

    notsofast said:
    And you are whom?

    Please continue to call me a racist! I love how it rolls off your lips and into your ass.

    OK. Racist.

  • beamangrow

    why the thumb down what was wrong with my observation concerning fox

  • musiccityvic

    paulmdoro said:
    I would like to see cuts in defense spending. At more than $700 billion it’s over half of all discretionary spending. A good place to start. Entitlement spending is tougher.

    I don’t think you can just cut Entitlement spending off, but you can reduce is gradually. Like I said earlier, in the case of welfare it should be available and used as a safety net, not a way of life.

  • paulmdoro

    musiccityvic said:
    I don’t think you can just cut Entitlement spending off, but you can reduce is gradually. Like I said earlier, in the case of welfare it should be available and used as a safety net, not a way of life.

    But look it Medicare. The GOP threw a fit about Medicare cuts right before the election. How can you talk about a reduction in entitlement spending to decrease the deficit while screaming about proposed cuts to Medicare?

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Watch what you watchin’
    Fox keeps feeding us toxins
    Stop sleeping
    Start thinking
    Outside of the box and
    Unplug from The Matrix doctrine
    But watch what you say Fox 5 is watchin’

  • Bad Wolf

    It looks like FOX only drew 7 million of its faithful viewers. (Conservatives Patriots)
    20 Million watched the big three networks. (Reasonable folks.)
    So, so who won?

    Apparently, over 300 million viewers had better things to do.

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