Imagine being close to making a car deal with a relatively affable salesman and the closer walks in. If it were Donald Trump, would you stay in the room? Would you grab your wallet? Would you believe a word he said? Now imagine this guy being the president.

Sad.

LOL

As I was saying in the prior thread….

Emma,
He’s still light years better than Obama. And about 50% of Dems think that it’s possible the Bush knew about and let 9/11 happened, so I wouldn’t talk. Hey, are you one of the 50%. Me thinks you probably are.

Rev. Franklin Graham, like is father Billy Graham is typical of many evangelicals, dishonest bigoted and largely racist. Graham is a hypocrite. He should act more Christ like than expressing support for the hate epitomized by Palin Trump an all. These evangelicals are the Pharisees of our time. They are despicable and should be opposed.

notice in the story, who is the one that brought up the birther issue……………..amanpour

If Obama really is the worst President ever and not American as many of you claim, then it should be a walk in the park to beat him. So, where is your declared candidate for this easy task? Its just like the mid terms, isn’t it. Its a lot easier to sit around and just say NO than to actually govern. So, where is your declared candidate? You don’t have one. Who is it going to be? Trump? Bachman? Pathetic.

“But, on the off chance that a few cynics won’t take my word for it, I offer you data. Rasmussen Reports, the public opinion outfit, recently asked voters whether President Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks beforehand. The findings? Well, here’s how the research firm put it: “Democrats in America are evenly divided on the question of whether George W. Bush knew about the 9/11 terrorist attacks in advance. Thirty-five percent of Democrats believe he did know, 39% say he did not know and 26% are not sure.”

“So then there’s option B — the poll is just wrong. This is quite plausible. Indeed, the poll is surely partly wrong. Many Democrats are probably merely saying that Bush is incompetent or that he failed to connect the dots or that they’re just answering in a fit of pique. I’m game for option B.”

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-goldberg15may15,0,3962183.column?coll=la-opinion-center

Some intrepid reporter should ask Obama why he doesn’t get his own SS # .
Jean Paul Ludwig wants the # back .

Papa Barack was a rolling stone .

http://www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Obama+Senior+celebrated+life+fully+but+died+miserable+/-/1064/1149834/-/fv4nxc/-/

Resistance Is Futile said:
Rev. Franklin Graham, like is father Billy Graham is typical of many evangelicals, dishonest bigoted and largely racist. Graham is a hypocrite. He should act more Christ like than expressing support for the hate epitomized by Palin Trump an all. These evangelicals are the Pharisees of our time. They are despicable and should be opposed.

Hampster spawn .

Spin it anyway you want Greg.

(Politico) — I’ve been looking for a good analogue to the willingness of Republicans to believe, or say they believe, that Obama was born abroad, and one relevant number is the share of Democrats willing to believe, as they say, that “Bush knew.”

There aren’t a lot of great public numbers on the partisan breakdown of adherents to that conspiracy theory, but the University of Ohio yesterday shared with us the crosstabs of a 2006 poll they did with Scripps Howard that’s useful in that regard.

“How likely is it that people in the federal government either assisted in the 9/11 attacks or took no action to stop the attacks because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East?” the poll asked.

A full 22.6% of Democrats said it was “very likely.” Another 28.2% called it “somewhat likely.”

That is: More than half of Democrats, according to a neutral survey, said they believed Bush was complicit in the 9/11 terror attacks.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0411/More_than_half_of_Democrats_believed_Bush_knew.html

Sounds pretty reasonable to me.

love resistance is futile’s comment regarding “the hate epitomized by Palin….

somehow his honesty did not allow him to state “the hate epitomized AGAINST Palin!

You want examples futile? Don’t have to go far? Your type of dishonesty when faced with facts – that are so readably available are just…. (sorry can’t even fathom such blatant lying).

Rev. Graham a racist, just like his Dad? a typical left wing “talking point” when all else fails you – and it seems to be failing you more and more often.

Your lying is absolutely reprehensible.

Look around on mediaite – if you’re too lazy to go further.

Graham, also, IF god wanted to prove his/hers/its existence he/she/it could, show the birth certificate, but why hasn’t he/she/it done so?

Emma said:
Now imagine this guy being the president.

Obama sold you and the media Hope & Change…
What is it exactly that you bought into?

Liberal Tormentor said:
Spin it anyway you want Greg.

How is presenting the argument of a well known conservative commentator spin? If anything, Goldberg is undoing the initial spin granted the issue by rabid partisans.

Joyatta, The proof God exists is everywhere. Unfortunately for you, you are too dense and blind to see (or acknowledge) it. How sad for you.

Now the Kirsten Power types in the media have another person to hate…

Why is it so hard for Obama to produce the documents asked by the birthers? He is college educated. He should realize he could put that issue to rest by releasing his papers. Obama wants to be the enigmatic president, not good for a Kenyan.

Joyatta Payne said:
Graham, also, IF god wanted to prove his/hers/its existence he/she/it could, show the birth certificate, but why hasn’t he/she/it done so?

God is a US citizen now?

Greg, you are spinning how they got to the conclusion that 50% of Dems think it’s possible that Bush knew and let it happen, by saying they just meant he was incompetent. It’s better than the alternative that you are WAY crazier than the so called Birthers.

skoorbekim said:
God is a US citizen now?

He better be if he wants to tell American citizens how to live! How do we know it’s the real god anyway?

Christianne is a birther too? Gosh, she is in good company with David Gregory, Chris Matthews and the NBC hosts on the today show, and even George Stephanapolis.

Egads, will the liberal left media ever stop asking about his birth certificate? And why is it they only ask republicans about it, why don’t they ask hehimself?

what a bunch of Obama worshipers; how sad, here on Easter Sunday, Christianne and her media pals chose to honor hehimselftheone Obamasiah? how sad for theml.

Snowspot said:
He better be if he wants to tell American citizens how to live! How do we know it’s the real god anyway?

well when God tells you, let us know

Hmmm…I didn’t realize Easter Sunday was a day for a religious leader to send out a political message on the teevee and teabloggers to argue the validity of that message in their usual manner.

THIS SURE IS A SACRED DAY, HUH?

graham is an idiot! … i have zero respect for his brand of christianity…

A BFD, that’s now why he was on the show, but the liberal media always has to go there. You can blame Christine for asking the question.

Snowspot said:
He better be if he wants to tell American citizens how to live! How do we know it’s the real god anyway?

Who knew the short bus had sunday pick-ups . Buckle -up Jon .

Liberal Tormentor said:
Greg, you are spinning how they got to the conclusion that 50% of Dems think it’s possible that Bush knew and let it happen,

First, the number you are using is wrong…
“Thirty-five percent (35%) of Democrats believe he did know…”
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/bush_administration/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance

Second, even conservative columnist Goldberg believed that the question was phrased in a manner that generated misleading results…
“[T]he poll is surely partly wrong. Many Democrats are probably merely saying that Bush is incompetent or that he failed to connect the dots or that they’re just answering in a fit of pique.”
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-goldberg15may15,0,3962183.column?coll=la-opinion-center

Third, well publicized evidence exists that Bush was notified before the attacks of Bin Laden’s intent… resulting in justified questioning of his prior knowledge.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/images/04/10/whitehouse.pdf

Finally, “Birthers” speak and behave like this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vNpXJxpu48

Now who’s crazy?

i did not know there was so many birthers on the left, matthews, odonnell, schultz, george , gregory and now amanpour, wow

I’m surprised tehre isn’t a post up here praising Cokie Roberts for being “insightful” rather than bigotted. She is one piece of work and is an embarrassment to NPR. I don’t know how they can not fire her for what she said today, she is an absolute bigot; only a bigot could think of this:

People Call Obama Muslim Because They Can’t Say ‘I Don’t Like Him Cause He’s Black’

Read more: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/04/24/cokie-roberts-people-call-obama-muslim-because-they-cant-say-i-dont-h#ixzz1KSkHzTN6

Cokie is a bigot and should be fired for such an outrageous remark.

Don’t hold your breath, TfT. We’d miss you around here.

cjd ohio 1 said:
i did not know there was so many birthers on the left, matthews, odonnell, schultz, george , gregory and now amanpour, wow

http://drudgereport.com/flash7.htm

That which we call a birther, by any other name, would still be an irrational, TFH-wearing bigot living in a state of denial.

Every time a birther is shown a web link to, or hard copy of Obama’s official birth certificate (you know, the one that is recognized by the federal government when applying for a passport), they pull the equivalent of a 9-year old covering his ears and shouting “nyah, nyah, nyah, I can’t hear you!”

You can lead right wingers to the truth, but you cannot make them embrace it.
Each state has its own standard for an official record of birth.

You have to look at the motivations of the majority of the birthers to understand why they simply cannot “let go”. Fundamentally, it comes down to the following mindset: “I cannot accept THAT man in the White House because…. (fill in the blank).”

Just about ANY reason will do — any excuse that will legitimize their bigotry-based outrage. If it wasn’t about a birth certificate, it would be about his middle name. (He’s a closet Muslim, you know.)

In addition, there are a handful of unscrupulous politicians and pundits who, although not necessarily racists themselves, have no problem capitalizing on the bigotry of others by fueling their fear and hatred of Obama in order to score political points or further a personal agenda.

Greg, have you even read the book? If so, feel free to post any errors you found.

tws258 said:
Who knew the short bus had sunday pick-ups . Buckle -up Jon .

*Yawn* wow, the short bus, that must be devastating to the other kids in your 9th grade class.

Labman, how do you explain the FACT that Hillary Clinton was the original birther?

Snowspot said:
*Yawn* wow, the short bus, that must be devastating to the other kids in your 9th grade class.

Only if I do XD , or : p after it then it rally is a burn . Buckle up Jon , seriously .

Liberal Tormentor said:
Labman, how do you explain the FACT that Hillary Clinton was the original birther?

it was the election and she was playing dirty politics, doesn’t mean it’s true.

The big secret to the whole birth certificate mystery is the fact that Barack is or at least was a female at birth and he’s hiding this fact to protect his children.

And Labman, you can understand why some folks might be confused, given that it was reported that his own Grandmother said she was AT his birth in Kenya.

cjd ohio 1 said:
i did not know there was so many birthers on the left, matthews, odonnell, schultz, george , gregory and now amanpour, wow

Snowspot said:
it was the election and she was playing dirty politics, doesn’t mean it’s true.

then why do the left keep bringing it up?

Franklin Graham has not yet produced his birth certificate to prove he’s not the offspring of Satan. That said, just as going to church may not make you a Christian, putting Reverend in front of your name doesn’t make you a man of God. The last name Graham does solidify the fact he’s a cracker, though.

Emma said:
Imagine being close to making a car deal with a relatively affable salesman and the closer walks in. If it were Donald Trump, would you stay in the room? Would you grab your wallet? Would you believe a word he said? Now imagine this guy being the president.

Sad.

Speaking of that creepy closer being the president……

tws258 said:
Only if I do XD , or : p after it then it rally is a burn . Buckle up Jon , seriously .

I’m sure the Palin’s wouldn’t appreciate your talk of the short bus, they have a child with special needs, how can you be so cold-hearted you monster.

Crutnacker said:
Franklin Graham has not yet produced his birth certificate to prove he’s not the offspring of Satan. That said, just as going to church may not make you a Christian, putting Reverend in front of your name doesn’t make you a man of God. The last name Graham does solidify the fact he’s a cracker, though.

” GOT RACISM “

Crutnacker said:
Franklin Graham has not yet produced his birth certificate to prove he’s not the offspring of Satan. That said, just as going to church may not make you a Christian, putting Reverend in front of your name doesn’t make you a man of God. The last name Graham does solidify the fact he’s a cracker, though.

you got a point, look at jesse jackson and al sharpton

Liberal Tormentor said:
Greg, have you even read the book? If so, feel free to post any errors you found.

You must work hard to maintain such an elite capacity to miss the point.

One time someone called me a cracker and I ran home and cried, on that day I learned white racism was real…. then I went to the mosque nearby with some Tea-Partiers and yelled at muslims they will be part of the caliphate. When will someone stop these dangerous muslims from being racist against me and being in my country?

cjd ohio 1 said:
then why do the left keep bringing it up?

The equivalent of your right wing talking point.
http://fliiby.com/file/273270/5eita2wxat.html

Greg said:
“So then there’s option B — the poll is just wrong. This is quite plausible. Indeed, the poll is surely partly wrong. Many Democrats are probably merely saying that Bush is incompetent or that he failed to connect the dots or that they’re just answering in a fit of pique. I’m game for option B.”

well greg, that would be just silly. it’s not like the war criminal (alleged(pre-war criminal at the time)) had any kind of warning that al queda was preparing to attack within the united states. i mean it would be stupid to do more intense screening in one of the most obvious places to either bomb or use passengers as hostages.
(said in that stupid-ass child voice that beck uses) “that would just be silly talk.”

Snowspot said:
One time someone called me a cracker and I ran home and cried, on that day I learned white racism was real…. then I went to the mosque nearby with some Tea-Partiers and yelled at muslims they will be part of the caliphate. When will someone stop these dangerous muslims from being racist against me and being in my country?

ya know snow, you are right. in fact you represent a growing population here in america.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/21/white.persecution/index.html

ChiliPeppersFan said:
ya know snow, you are right. in fact you represent a growing population here in america.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/21/white.persecution/index.html

*as my humor sometimes is missed, that was a sarcastic post.

Snowspot said:
I’m sure the Palin’s wouldn’t appreciate your talk of the short bus, they have a child with special needs, how can you be so cold-hearted you monster.

IOKIYAR

Snowspot said:
I’m sure the Palin’s wouldn’t appreciate your talk of the short bus, they have a child with special needs, how can you be so cold-hearted you monster.

Yes, your concern is apparent . XD

Jon Martin 1 said:
Almost as bad as Palin and her whole retarded family lol.

http://tinyurl.com/3dhswfu

Haha, good job, TWS!

it is a waste of time to give a interview with people whose purpose is to divide a nation and promote ignorance and Amanpour just move into the role of the Beck

just real tried of this shit we need to move on from this mess do we not have enough problems that this silly is slowing down progress

gottosay said:
it is a waste of time to give a interview with people whose purpose is to divide a nation and promote ignorance and Amanpour just move into the role of the Beck

enjoyed it much more with jake tapper.

gottosay said:
it is a waste of time to give a interview with people whose purpose is to divide a nation and promote ignorance and Amanpour just move into the role of the Beck

but i get your point.

gottosay said:
it is a waste of time to give a interview with people whose purpose is to divide a nation and promote ignorance and Amanpour just move into the role of the Beck

What do you mean? They interview Obama all the time….Ohhhh You meant Graham. Sorry. lmao

Liberal Tormentor said:
Emma,He’s still light years better than Obama. And about 50% of Dems think that it’s possible the Bush knew about and let 9/11 happened, so I wouldn’t talk. Hey, are you one of the 50%. Me thinks you probably are.

Lindsey Lohan would be better than Obama. A piece of wood would be better than Obama. A dead mouse would be better than Obama.

When you’re right, you’re right, Gordon.

gordonbloyershow said:
Lindsey Lohan would be better than Obama. A piece of wood would be better than Obama. A dead mouse would be better than Obama.

wish there was web site where i could get insightful nuggets like that.

“a membership [alone] doesn’t make you a Christian.”

How so very true. Just like Calling yourself a Reverend doesn’t make you a man of God. What a sorry excuse for a Reverend you are. At least your father had some decentcy about him

Proof of Graham’s outright lies concerning Obama’s religious faith on top of his lies about Obama’s birth certificate.

President Obama published 1/23/2008

“I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life. But most importantly, I believe in the example that Jesus set by feeding the hungry and healing the sick and always prioritizing the least of these over the powerful. I didn’t ‘fall out in church’ as they say, but there was a very strong awakening in me of the importance of these issues in my life. I didn’t want to walk alone on this journey. Accepting Jesus Christ in my life has been a powerful guide for my conduct and my values and my ideals.”
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/januaryweb-only/104-32.0.html?start=2

None of this discussion about birtherism or Obama’s religion have anything to do with his place of birth or his religion. It is all about his racist. Evangelical Christianity and anti-black racism have walked together from their beginnings. The largest evangelical denomination, the “Southern Baptists” were born out of their break with the northern Baptists who believed American slave system which treated humans as animals, not human beings was incompatible with Christianity.

Evangelicals were the last Christians to accept civil rights for African Americans. It took the Southern Baptists to 1998 to do this. The Mormons were even worse. Racism is embedded in the very core doctrines of their fait.

If people were truly inspired by God would they not have led the way towards justice as Jesus did? Some thoughts to ponder on the Easter Sunday.

tws258 said:
Yes, your concern is apparent . XD

http://tinyurl.com/3dhswfu

lmao

I’ll give you that, her whole family is not retarded.

George C said:
Hampster spawn .

That seems like a description of you. Like a hamster you cannot think of an intelligent response and you do not like to see men in cloths.

Snowspot said:
lmao
I’ll give you that, her whole family is not retarded.

And you’ve quit denying your Jon Martin . We are making progress . : p

Resistance Is Futile said:
That seems like a description of you. Like a hamster you cannot think of an intelligent response and you do not like to see men in cloths.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mDTLphIVY

BeckFinallyDemoted said:
Hmmm…I didn’t realize Easter Sunday was a day for a religious leader to send out a political message on the teevee and teabloggers to argue the validity of that message in their usual manner.

THIS SURE IS A SACRED DAY, HUH?

What is sacred about a right wing, lying evangelical preacher. I can thinking of nothing more profane than that.

kainne said:
graham is an idiot! … i have zero respect for his brand of christianity…

Amen!

Crutnacker said:
Franklin Graham has not yet produced his birth certificate to prove he’s not the offspring of Satan. That said, just as going to church may not make you a Christian, putting Reverend in front of your name doesn’t make you a man of God. The last name Graham does solidify the fact he’s a cracker, though.

Amen!

1. Graham is a *reverend* – meaning not believable.
2.He travelled with Palin to Haiti – another source of free publicity.
3. If Obama was a white president, there’d be no birth certificate issue.

tws258 said:
And you’ve quit denying your Jon Martin . We are making progress . : p

How could I deny I was Jon Martin? My name is a link. I said I wasn’t banned.. never have been on mediaite.

ntrudr1400 said:
“a membership [alone] doesn’t make you a Christian.”

How so very true. Just like Calling yourself a Reverend doesn’t make you a man of God. What a sorry excuse for a Reverend you are. At least your father had some decentcy about him

No his father did not. His father was just as bad as Franklin though he has mellowed a little when he was young. His father practiced segregation, wile preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ in his meeting. He was a strong supported of Nixon and the immoral War In Vietnam. His father was a just like the son if not worse, Billy Graham worshiped power and the powerful.

A Christian spreading doubts as to a fellow Christians faith? And that person is the President of his country? And on Easter Sunday yet? Can’t get any lower than that. This man should be publicly shamed …. and often.

Snowspot said:
How could I deny I was Jon Martin? My name is a link. I said I wasn’t banned.. never have been on mediaite.

Click the link short bus . Internets much ?

http://tinyurl.com/3dhswfu

Resistance Is Futile said:
No his father did not. His father was just as bad as Franklin though he has mellowed a little when he was young. His father practiced segregation, wile preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ in his meeting. He was a strong supported of Nixon and the immoral War In Vietnam. His father was a just like the son if not worse, Billy Graham worshiped power and the powerful.

Bigot.

I believe you weren’t banned Jon. They reserve that for Conservatives who call them out on their blatant liberal bias.

Liberal Tormentor said:
I believe you weren’t banned Jon

Maybe he likes the name ” Facebook User ” .

Hey, I could be wrong TWS. He must have done something REALLY bad to be banned. Liberals don’t get that treatment here often. I’ve had some of the most vile things imaginable said to me and those posters are still around.

tws258 said:
Maybe he likes the name ” Facebook User ” .

If I was banned it’s news to me… regardless, does this somehow fit into what we’re talking about? I can’t figure out how “Jon Martin was banned” is somehow a winning point for you.

Snowspot said:
If I was banned it’s news to me… regardless, does this somehow fit into what we’re talking about? I can’t figure out how “Jon Martin was banned” is somehow a winning point for you.

Anything said in contrast to you is winning!

Snowspot said:
I said I wasn’t banned.. never have been on mediaite.

Snowspot said:
If I was banned it’s news to me… regardless

Wait …. what ? XD

WCinWI said:
does this somehow fit into what we’re talking about?

It shows by example , that most / all of your utterences are lies .

^^^^^Belongs to SnowSpot , not WCinWI ^^^^^^^^^

tws258 said:
^^^^^Belongs to SnowSpot , not WCinWI ^^^^^^^^^

No worries :)

Snow has not a leg to stand on so attack away. :)

What’s on the BC is irrelevant. What’s relevant is a POTUS lying, demagoguing, and obfuscating about releasing his legal,long form BC

Alice67 said:
A Christian spreading doubts as to a fellow Christians faith? And that person is the President of his country? And on Easter Sunday yet? Can’t get any lower than that. This man should be publicly shamed …. and often.

Most Definitely. Shame on Franklin Graham and all of those like him!

Liberal Tormentor said:
Joyatta, The proof God exists is everywhere. Unfortunately for you, you are too dense and blind to see (or acknowledge) it. How sad for you.

The country is going down the tubes, lost jobs, lost homes, lost posessions, many living on the streets with not much to hope for. Babies, kids, moms, dads, grandparents in third world countries are dying from starvation every second, with the rest killing each other off in endless often times senseless wars.
Theres your proof of Gods existence.

Jaurez said:
Bigot.

Very thoughtful remark by an idiot who uses a racist, disrespectful depiction of the president as his avatar. You are a traitor!

Resistance Is Futile said:
That seems like a description of you. Like a hamster you cannot think of an intelligent response and you do not like to see men in cloths.

tws258 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mDTLphIVY

What he said . HA !

Alice67 said:
A Christian spreading doubts as to a fellow Christians faith? And that person is the President of his country? And on Easter Sunday yet? Can’t get any lower than that. This man should be publicly shamed …. and often.

Closet muslim masquarading as a Christian ( Obama ) who may or may not actually be the president kind of renders your point ( assertion ) moot.

George C said:
What he said . HA !

I would not expect anything more from a person like you.

Resistance Is Futile said:
I would not expect anything more from a person like you.

LMAO!!!!! (sorry Garth )

Garth said:
By the way, I noticed “black’ is in lower case and “WHITE” is in upper case. Knowing that a majority of baggers are racists does this have any significance or did you just forget to let up on the caps key?

good catch!

Resistance Is Futile says:
April 24, 2011 at 2:36 pm Resistance Is Futile(Quote)
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Crutnacker said:
Franklin Graham has not yet produced his birth certificate to prove he’s not the offspring of Satan. That said, just as going to church may not make you a Christian, putting Reverend in front of your name doesn’t make you a man of God. The last name Graham does solidify the fact he’s a cracker, though.
And your answer was……Amen!

Resistance Is Futile said:
No his father did not. His father was just as bad as Franklin though he has mellowed a little when he was young. His father practiced segregation, wile preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ in his meeting. He was a strong supported of Nixon and the immoral War In Vietnam. His father was a just like the son if not worse, Billy Graham worshiped power and the powerful.

If Billy Graham worshiped power and the powerful he would have excepted a lot of money for his services, because with power comes money and lots of it but he did not except more than he could live on. Maybe more than you would have wanted him to but he didn’t live in big mansions and he could have. He gave to charities, he helped the poor more than you will ever know. Black African people, many of them. I sure haven’t seen Sharpton or Jackson over in the poor countries helping with their money and time. How many cracker faces do you see helping the African’s out? How many crackers do you see when something bad happens in the black neighborhoods of America? Who do you see helping white families when they have major tornadoes or floods? I see many white crackers helping and few if any black people.And calling yourself a Reverend doesn’t make you a man of God, neither does putting President in front of your name make you a good or great for that matter, President.

Your words and contempt for those who have done good makes me believe you are a Christ hater, Jew hater and cracker hater. I just hope I’m wrong.

jo hoochie said:
Your words and contempt for those who have done good makes me believe you are a Christ hater, Jew hater and cracker hater. I just hope I’m wrong.

No you don’t. You wallow in this crap.

tws258 said:
It shows by example , that most / all of your utterences are lies .

How is that? because I wasn’t banned? how am I still using this from my facebook account if it’s banned?

Have I derailed this discussion enough yet? lets all talk about me! :D

Snowspot said:
how am I still using this from my facebook account if it’s banned?

Garth , you wanna get this one ?

Alice67 said:
good catch!

Ditto.. The lower, upper case caught my eye also. Its quite obvious how this person thinks so no point in discussing much of anything with him/her. Closed minds are closed minds and I learned a long time ago, they’re just not worth the time.

George C said:
Garth , you wanna get this one ?

I run my own website, it really all depends on how their banning system works, there was never i time where I couldn’t post comments. Besides that, this discussion is over :P

Jayson said:
The country is going down the tubes, lost jobs, lost homes, lost posessions, many living on the streets with not much to hope for. Babies, kids, moms, dads, grandparents in third world countries are dying from starvation every second, with the rest killing each other off in endless often times senseless wars.Theres your proof of Gods existence.

And why is that?? Maybe because Christians get stomped on in every direction, made fun of, killed in Muslim countries and Muslims coming here to kill us, 9/11. People and the media can make fun of Christians all day long but Muslims, they get a pass. Try making fun of them and see what happens. America is asleep at the wheel but Thank God I think a few have finally woke up to what the regressives, socialist are doing to this country and it isn’t pretty. If we could all get along we wouldn’t have all the killing of each other, wars, starvation but it will never be that way unless we make the choice to treat mankind like we want to be treated. Start with respect for one. You have but to look at nature to see even in this world good and evil exsist. Ever watch bug wars? Even a spider will invade anothers home only to make that home owner his dinner and eat him.

Snowspot said:
I run my own website, it really all depends on how their banning system works, there was never i time where I couldn’t post comments. Besides that, this discussion is over :P

Of course. You said stupid things , your USERNAME was banned , and you came back . Mystery solved .

Garth said:
We do know that you have an issue with education and probably medication which you should work out with your therapist. Don’t bring your personal shit to this board. No one cares.

You must care Garth, You replied. By the way, I don’t care what you think!

jo hoochie said:
Resistance Is Futile says:
April 24, 2011 at 2:36 pm Resistance Is Futile(Quote)
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Crutnacker said:
Franklin Graham has not yet produced his birth certificate to prove he’s not the offspring of Satan. That said, just as going to church may not make you a Christian, putting Reverend in front of your name doesn’t make you a man of God. The last name Graham does solidify the fact he’s a cracker, though.
And your answer was……Amen!

If Billy Graham worshiped power and the powerful he would have excepted a lot of money for his services, because with power comes money and lots of it but he did not except more than he could live on. Maybe more than you would have wanted him to but he didn’t live in big mansions and he could have. He gave to charities, he helped the poor more than you will ever know. Black African people, many of them. I sure haven’t seen Sharpton or Jackson over in the poor countries helping with their money and time. How many cracker faces do you see helping the African’s out? How many crackers do you see when something bad happens in the black neighborhoods of America? Who do you see helping white families when they have major tornadoes or floods? I see many white crackers helping and few if any black people.And calling yourself a Reverend doesn’t make you a man of God, neither does putting President in front of your name make you a good or great for that matter, President.

Your words and contempt for those who have done good makes me believe you are a Christ hater, Jew hater and cracker hater. I just hope I’m wrong.

You are obviously not very bright. There is a difference between power and money. Many people sek power without money and others seek simply money.

Just because you give money to charities it does not make you a good person or a good Christian. Billy Graham practiced segregation in his meetings during the 1950s. I true Christian would not have done this. He supported the war in Vietnam and palled around with Nixon. I true Christian would not do this. Why are you bringing up black preachers who were not in any way associated with this discussion. Obviously you cannot contain your obvious anti-black racism.

By the way wiz kid I am a Christian and how dare you impute to me anti-Christian or anti-Jewish sentiment. I was in church this morning. How about you?

Alice67 said:
No you don’t. You wallow in this crap.

At least it isn’t the same kind of crap you wallow in.

Resistance Is Futile said:
You are obviously not very bright. There is a difference between power and money. Many people sek power without money and others seek simply money. Just because you give money to charities it does not make you a good person or a good Christian. Billy Graham practiced segregation in his meetings during the 1950s. I true Christian would not have done this. He supported the war in Vietnam and palled around with Nixon. I true Christian would not do this. Why are you bringing up black preachers who were not in any way associated with this discussion. Obviously you cannot contain your obvious anti-black racism. By the way wiz kid I am a Christian and how dare you impute to me anti-Christian or anti-Jewish sentiment. I was in church this morning. How about you?

crutnacker brought race into it

Wow I expect more from Amanpour. She should not ask that question, it always makes the tightie-righties look like fools. It’s like making kittens chase laser pointer dots, they just can’t help it.

The liberal media has learned to dog whistle Republicans by simply asking them about the birther question. Obama continues to play his little joke on the birther crowd, stoking their idiocy by not releasing his 60 page long form birth certificate, complete with certificate of circumcision, and certificate of religious affiliation.

If it has been asked once, it has been asked a million times “Why doesn’t Obama release his birth certificate”, and every time its asked, the person asking looks less and less intelligent. But God bless them, they can’t help it.

Now Franklin Graham has fallen into the trap so artfully laid by Amanpour, and probably cost his church some liberal donations. When will the Republicans ever learn to avoid the “birther trap”? I suppose they will keep falling for it until 2017….

Liberal Tormentor said:
Don’t hold your breath, TfT. We’d miss you around here.

No, we won’t.

Garth said:
This is very good example of how stupid you baggers can get. Which is really, really, stupid.

Since this comes from a double bagger, I’m simply going to ignore it.

Jayson said:
Ditto.. The lower, upper case caught my eye also. Its quite obvious how this person thinks so no point in discussing much of anything with him/her. Closed minds are closed minds and I learned a long time ago, they’re just not worth the time.

Agree.

Happy Easter Reverend, now pull your head out of Trumpty Dumpty’s “keister”!

jo hoochie said:
Start with respect for one.

It could start with Christians and their leaders respecting their Presidents claim that he is a Christian. I can’t think of anything worst than denying someone’s faith for them. Unconscionable!

Franklin Graham is obviously not “made out of the same cloth” of his father. Praising a blowhard who regularly trumpets his own trumpet, loudly and often, and yet the man who attended one Christian church for more than 20 years and quietly lives his faith and only talks about it when he has to in response to claims by others doubting his faith. The Obamas have regularly volunteered in their community and raised their daughters to do the same and have given more and more to charity as their incomes have increased and yet Franklin would have a negative comment like that? I don’t see Trump behaving in a Christian manner and Franklin Graham supports him? This apple fell a long distance away from the tree.

cjd ohio 1 said:
crutnacker brought race into it

Franklin Graham brought race into it. As you and I both know a birther by definition is a person who does not accept the legitimacy of president Obama. The use any issue, denying the validity of his legally sufficient, court tested birth certificate as a way to discredit him because of his race. A birther by definition is a racist, plain and simple. They lost the election and are racist sore losers. They do not believe in the American electoral system or the American court systeem. They should leave the country and find some place to live they like better if they cannot respect and accept our system.

I am quite gratified for the company of Franklin Graham as a fellow truth seeker regarding the hidden birth documentation.

MTinMO said:
Franklin Graham is obviously not “made out of the same cloth” of his father. Praising a blowhard who regularly trumpets his own trumpet, loudly and often, and yet the man who attended one Christian church for more than 20 years and quietly lives his faith and only talks about it when he has to in response to claims by others doubting his faith. The Obamas have regularly volunteered in their community and raised their daughters to do the same and have given more and more to charity as their incomes have increased and yet Franklin would have a negative comment like that? I don’t see Trump behaving in a Christian manner and Franklin Graham supports him? This apple fell a long distance away from the tree.

Billy Graham was a hypocrite just like his son, Do the research. He practiced segregation, embraced Nixon to the extent of campaigning for the War In Vietnam and even organizing an Honer America Day in support of that immoral war. Do not lionize Billy Graham. He practiced segregation in his ministry and only changed after the fashion changed. He was a bigot who was forced to change his practices as the country changed. He is far from a saint.

Resistance Is Futile said:
Franklin Graham brought race into it. As you and I both know a birther by definition is a person who does not accept the legitimacy of president Obama. The use any issue, denying the validity of his legally sufficient, court tested birth certificate as a way to discredit him because of his race. A birther by definition is a racist, plain and simple. They lost the election and are racist sore losers. They do not believe in the American electoral system or the American court systeem. They should leave the country and find some place to live they like better if they cannot respect and accept our system.

lol, i will look that definition up in websters, hold on lol

Alice67 said:
It could start with Christians and their leaders respecting their Presidents claim that he is a Christian. I can’t think of anything worst than denying someone’s faith for them. Unconscionable!

If you think he’s a Christian you are delusional. He’s whatever he needs to be to get ahead.

Resistance Is Futile said:
Billy Graham was a hypocrite just like his son, Do the research. He practiced segregation, embraced Nixon to the extent of campaigning for the War In Vietnam and even organizing an Honer America Day in support of that immoral war. Do not lionize Billy Graham. He practiced segregation in his ministry and only changed after the fashion changed. He was a bigot who was forced to change his practices as the country changed. He is far from a saint.

So he was just like Robert Byrd, got it.

Resistance Is Futile said:
You are obviously not very bright. There is a difference between power and money. Many people sek power without money and others seek simply money. Just because you give money to charities it does not make you a good person or a good Christian. Billy Graham practiced segregation in his meetings during the 1950s. I true Christian would not have done this. He supported the war in Vietnam and palled around with Nixon. I true Christian would not do this. Why are you bringing up black preachers who were not in any way associated with this discussion. Obviously you cannot contain your obvious anti-black racism. By the way wiz kid I am a Christian and how dare you impute to me anti-Christian or anti-Jewish sentiment. I was in church this morning. How about you?

So you don’t like being called names? Well you seem to spit them out pretty good.
No I wasn’t in church this morning but didn’t feel the need to go like you must have.
My opinion about power and money, it goes hand in hand.
Billy Graham has visited presidents from way back to the 50′s. and he wasn’t the only one who supported the Vietnam war and who knows maybe he tried to get Nixon to pull out. Was you there and heard what they were talking about?
Why not bring you Sharpton and Jackson? They can’t hold a candle to what Graham has done to help the African American’s and the African people. I see money and power for them, with these two so called preachers. They have taken from their own and used the blacks to better themselves. They have deceived their own.
You seem to say I cannot contain my obvious anti-black racism when I’m not a racist, I can’t help but feel you are anti-Christian and anti-Jewish even if you went to church ten times today. Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian.

Rev. Franklin Graham On Obama’s Birth Certificate: ‘Why Can’t He Produce That?’

…well, all those mud huts in kenya look alike, so maybe even “You Lie!” hussein can’t remember in which one it’s buried.

jo hoochie said:
Why not bring you Sharpton and Jackson? They can’t hold a candle to what Graham has done to help the African American’s and the African people. I see money and power for them, with these two so called preachers. They have taken from their own and used the blacks to better themselves. They have deceived their own.

You make a very good point, when it comes to helping people of African descent it must really pain the libs to know Graham & even George Bush have done 10 times more to help than the liberals ever have.

Garth said:
The only thing you got is your head up your ass. Dolt.

Byrd was a hero of yours, I understand.

timzank said:
If you think he’s a Christian you are delusional. He’s whatever he needs to be to get ahead.

A Big Amen to that Tim!!

Garth said:
Byrd regretted being an asshole. Something you have yet to address.

Were your grandparents in the klan with him? I’m assuming your dem roots go waaaay back.

This is one of those “feed the lefty trolls” bloggings.

timzank said:
Were your grandparents in the klan with him? I’m assuming your dem roots go waaaay back.

Don’t be embarassed, a lot of dems were in the Klan. Maybe your kin were in the same “coven” with Byrd? If so, you might be able to sell off some of their memorobilia, like their sheets and stuff! It could bring in a little extra liquor & smokes dough, make those stretches between government checks more bearable!

OxyCon said:
This is one of those “feed the lefty trolls” bloggings.

Ain’t they cute??

The Grahams are both a bunch of crackers! The father did have a bit of gravitas, but I really never heard him take a principaled stand on any significant issue – the son seems like a total sleaze coasting along on his father’s reputation. I’ve had a thought as to why Trump is doing well amongst rightwing types. Donald Trump is the ultimate bully who will, if necessary, crack heads to get this country moving. I think that’s what a lot of rightwingers are longing for, a ‘strongman’ who will come along and make everything right, literally and figuratively. In our slow rightward drift, Trump is a little bit like the original fascist strongman, the one and only Benito Mussolini. Contrary to rightwing propaganda, fascism isn’t socialism writ large, but, rather, it’s what happens when capitalism goes out of control. Fascism, according to it’s originator, Benito Mussolini, is when corporations and the government merge, and the individual’s interests become secondary to the state. Mussolini was a reletively benovolent leader until the worldwide depression and Hitler’s rise to power swept him into Hitler’s demonic orbit. My feeling is the Trump blitz will last another few weeks until the rightwingers find out that Trump is not the real Benito Mussolini deal. Trump has much too much baggage and absolutely no principles, good or bad.

Garth said:
Byrd regretted being an asshole. Something you have yet to address.

Rush Limbaugh quit drugs years ago and you little leftists still call him an addict. Michael Jackson DIED from drugs, and he is your leftist pop hero for life. Taking one for the team, dumbass?

Garth said:
I take it you and the English language don’t get along.

Did you check your closet for your grandparents sheets? I’m tellin ya Garth, you could have some $$$$ there!! Don’t be ashamed, embrace your democrat heritage baby!!!

OxyCon said:
This is one of those “feed the lefty trolls” bloggings.

Smack-a-troll. Like whack-a-mole. Ignoring them makes them so angry they change their troll name, so I can see why they do it, I guess. Just a theory. I think Garth used to be, at least, SarahP…I hear ellie is Alice something-or-other , and we know that she was Ellen Carey Rowe, at one time…

Garth said:
I take it you and the English language don’t get along.

I take it THAT you…

Get along at what?

But who’s keeping score, pumpkin?

Garth said:
Why should I do that when you are wearing them? Did you have a bad experience with education as a child? LMAO!!

Better to have a bad “experience with education” than no education at all, Garth.

Garth said:
Our resident pedophile.

Your president is the resident white house pedophile HR, guy. LOL. And you are one of mediaite’s resdent 0bama supporters, Garth! LOL. Kevin Jennings, Garth. Is he the MAN for your kids, sweetpea? LOL.

http://biggovernment.com/jhoft/2009/12/08/fistgate-ii-high-school-students-given-fisting-kits-at-kevin-jennings-2001-glsen-conference/

Garth said:
And no one knows pedophilia like you do. You should be jailed and then deported for being a pervert.

Do you really want to keep bringing up 0bama’s safe school czar, Garth?

http://biggovernment.com/jhoft/2009/12/07/fistgate-barack-obamas-safe-schools-czars-2000-conference-promoted-fisting-to-14-year-olds/

A man you support, Garth? LOL.

Garth said:
And no one knows pedophilia like you do. You should be jailed and then deported for being a pervert.

Huh, GARTH? Keep going, troll.

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/issues/fistgate/index.html

[NOTE: Kevin Jennings, the founder of GLSEN, was appointed by the Obama administration to run the Office of Safe & Drug Free Schools in the US Department of Education! GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network) is a national homosexual organization that targets children in the public schools, and has formed "gay straight alliance" clubs in schools across the country. Jennings was the Executive Director of GLSEN at the time and was the keynote speaker at this conference!]

Is he a man you can “get behind”, GARTH?

Grahm is a hater/birther. He obviously has a political agenda and doesn’t like the President, which isn’t very Christian. What would make him a Christian in Grahm’s eyes? Beiing anti-gay and anti-choice? What was he getting at, other than calling the President a liar for no reason and to let evangelicals know that he’s anti-Obama?

And all that end of days stuff. Surely he’s heard of Pompei, Krakatoa, the Chicago Fire, etc. Why is this time any different than those times? He seems to think it’s time to die. I can’t recall any similar jeremiad by his father. What a nasty, unpleasant man.

Garth said:
Have you registered with the local authorities? If not, you are going to jail which in your case wouldn’t be much of punishment would it?.

Wow, GARTH, did Fox News make this up about 0BAMA’S SAFE SCHOOL CZAR??

Barack Obama’s “safe school’s czar” Kevin Jennings hid pedophilia from authorities.

Safe Schools Czar Kevin Jennings was a huge Obama supporter.

Warren Throckmorton has this and more on the latest case of pedophilia that Obama’s Safe Schools Czar hid from officials.

In an op-ed dated today but available online over the weekend, the Washington Times assails Obama safe-schools appointee, Kevin Jennings for his handling of a 15-year old student’s sexual revelations when Jennings was a young teacher.

According to Mr. Jennings’ own description in a new audiotape discovered by Fox News, the 15-year-old boy met the “older man” in a “bus station bathroom” and was taken to the older man’s home that night.

FOX News has also reported on this and pointed to that recording. That audiotape was recorded by someone who attended a speech Jennings gave in Iowa in 2000 and then given to me. The relevant clip is here. You can read more about Brewster and the controversy in the article, Remembering Brewster and in this prior post on the topic.

Hey, GARTH, I opposed this nominee of your messiah, 0bama, how ’bout you?

Battchief said:
Grahm is a hater/birther. He obviously has a political agenda and doesn’t like the President, which isn’t very Christian. What would make him a Christian in Grahm’s eyes? Beiing anti-gay and anti-choice? What was he getting at, other than calling the President a liar for no reason and to let evangelicals know that he’s anti-Obama?

And all that end of days stuff. Surely he’s heard of Pompei, Krakatoa, the Chicago Fire, etc. Why is this time any different than those times? He seems to think it’s time to die. I can’t recall any similar jeremiad by his father. What a nasty, unpleasant man.

Too stupid to even be the new “GARTH”, and GARTH can’t type that fast.

jo hoochie said:
Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian.

Ya …. that’s what Graham says too.

ganymede said:
My feeling is the Trump blitz will last another few weeks until the rightwingers find out that Trump is not the real Benito Mussolini deal. Trump has much too much baggage and absolutely no principles, good or bad.

It will end by the 16th of May when NBC announces it’s fall lineup.

Garth said:
You are the quintessential bagger; racists and willfully stupid. I really didn’t expect your racists ass to answer why “black’ is in lower case and “WHITE” is in upper case. I’ve found that racist tea-bagging buffoons like you typically don’t have any balls.

My that sure was a mouthful you were juggling there. I was surprized you even had room to fit the balls in the end, but thank you it feels real good.

Such a phony. Just like Daddy. Another free-riding “Man of God.” They’ve both always hung sround GOPster presidents- going back to Ike. A charade.

timzank said:
So he was just like Robert Byrd, got it.

That’s right, Robert Byrd reformed. Graham not quite as much. Robert Byrd served the citizens of West Virginia well. Billy Graham supported getting over 60,000 Americans killed for nothing in an immoral war.

jo hoochie said:
So you don’t like being called names? Well you seem to spit them out pretty good.
No I wasn’t in church this morning but didn’t feel the need to go like you must have.
My opinion about power and money, it goes hand in hand.
Billy Graham has visited presidents from way back to the 50’s. and he wasn’t the only one who supported the Vietnam war and who knows maybe he tried to get Nixon to pull out. Was you there and heard what they were talking about?
Why not bring you Sharpton and Jackson? They can’t hold a candle to what Graham has done to help the African American’s and the African people. I see money and power for them, with these two so called preachers. They have taken from their own and used the blacks to better themselves. They have deceived their own.
You seem to say I cannot contain my obvious anti-black racism when I’m not a racist, I can’t help but feel you are anti-Christian and anti-Jewish even if you went to church ten times today. Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian.

Wrong if you could read you wold know Billy Graham actively organized in support of the Vietnam War. You must be crazy. Billy Graham practicing segregation at his church events helped African Americans. You are sounding dumber by the line. You are just intellectually incapable of understanding concepts beyond your little small Fox News informed world. I feel sorry for you. You make racist charges make baseless accusations of antisemitism with absolutely no factual basis. The only rational conclusion is that you are projecting your bigotry on me.

CNN doing a Special Report right now called “Pushing Back Against Fox”.

Resistance Is Futile said:
The only rational conclusion is that you are projecting your bigotry on me.

There a lot of that here. :)

Resistance Is Futile said:
That’s right, Robert Byrd reformed. Graham not quite as much. Robert Byrd served the citizens of West Virginia well. Billy Graham supported getting over 60,000 Americans killed for nothing in an immoral war.

How many Africans has he saved? How many millions of people has he fed worldwide? All Robert Byrd ever did (after putting his sheets in the drawer) was graft $$$$ to put his name on buildings.

Nasty old racist, heh, that’s a hell of an idol ya got there!

Alice67 said:
CNN doing a Special Report right now called “Pushing Back Against Fox”.

That’s funny, pushing back at what? The only network out of 6 (abc,nbc,cbs,msnbc,cnn,fox) that doesn’t “parrot” the same lines every single night. All of the other 5 run the same headlines, stories, and liberal opinions every single night and they “dominate” the american television audience and they are “pushing back” at ONE LITTLE CHANNEL?? 5 American news outlets against one…….If those 5 networks have the truth on their side, and the bulk of american viewers what could they possibly have to push back against?

Alice67 said:
There a lot of that here. :)

Mediaite makes money by providing a forum for bigots. The sites that advertise on this blog need to be made aware of this activity as well as the general community. If more people were aware of what was going on they would begin to flee this blog like rats from a sinking ship. Glen Beck can tell you how that feels. Mediaite has a responsibility to handle the bigotry it gives a forum for but to this point it has failed miserably to deal with it. Maybe public and advertiser pressure will help. It’s worth a shot.

Resistance Is Futile said:
Mediaite makes money by providing a forum for bigots. The sites that advertise on this blog need to be made aware of this activity as well as the general community. If more people were aware of what was going on they would begin to flee this blog like rats from a sinking ship. Glen Beck can tell you how that feels. Mediaite has a responsibility to handle the bigotry it gives a forum for but to this point it has failed miserably to deal with it. Maybe public and advertiser pressure will help. It’s worth a shot.

Sez the bigot.

Alice67 said:
CNN doing a Special Report right now called “Pushing Back Against Fox”.

What’s on msnbc?

Resistance Is Futile said:
Mediaite makes money by providing a forum for bigots. The sites that advertise on this blog need to be made aware of this activity as well as the general community. If more people were aware of what was going on they would begin to flee this blog like rats from a sinking ship. Glen Beck can tell you how that feels. Mediaite has a responsibility to handle the bigotry it gives a forum for but to this point it has failed miserably to deal with it. Maybe public and advertiser pressure will help. It’s worth a shot.

I agree.

LA Times calls Palin’special-needs case’ LOL

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-daum-palin-20110417,0,7272287.column

Alice67 said:
I agree.

Keep us posted on your “take down” of Mediaite. LOL!

Franklin Grahm,promoting hatred and ignorance through religion and….supporting Trump too, daddy must be so proud.

Alice67 said:
It could start with Christians and their leaders respecting their Presidents claim that he is a Christian. I can’t think of anything worst than denying someone’s faith for them. Unconscionable

Well do most Christians accidentally say, “My Muslim faith?” I know when I was witnessing downtown the other night I had to struggle to keep from telling people Mohammed died for their sins.

Joyatta Payne said:
Graham, also, IF god wanted to prove his/hers/its existence he/she/it could, show the birth certificate, but why hasn’t he/she/it done so?

Jesus was raised from the dead — there were witnesses, and it made history. It was quite an amazing thing at the time. He said himself that he wasn’t going to give people a sign – that only evil people ask for a sign. He said that being buried in the tomb for three days and raised to life (the sign of Jonah) should be an awesome enough sign for anyone.

meena140 said:
LA Times calls Palin’special-needs case’ LOL

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-daum-palin-20110417,0,7272287.column

Great article.

Why must we always call names? It is intellectually irresponsible to use a straw-man arguement every time we disagree with someone. If you can’t disagree with someone on the merits of their arguements, or points of view; then just shut up. If you do not agree with Mr. Graham’s point(s) of view then argue your points, do not stoop to calling people bigots and attempt to change the arguement to something that cannot be prooved outside of pure conjecture.

LibertyJane said:
Jesus was raised from the dead — there were witnesses, and it made history. It was quite an amazing thing at the time. He said himself that he wasn’t going to give people a sign – that only evil people ask for a sign. He said that being buried in the tomb for three days and raised to life (the sign of Jonah) should be an awesome enough sign for anyone.

Actually no one is reported as seeing him “rise”.
When the women went to the tomb, they were told, “He is Arisen”.
No contemporary, disinterested accounts of his apparition post-crucifixion are extant.

pinandpuller said:
Well do most Christians accidentally say, “My Muslim faith?” I know when I was witnessing downtown the other night I had to struggle to keep from telling people Mohammed died for their sins.

What vicious lie are you trying to insinuate! The lack of integrity on this blog is incredible. How low will some people stoop.

LibertyJane said:
Jesus was raised from the dead — there were witnesses, and it made history. It was quite an amazing thing at the time. He said himself that he wasn’t going to give people a sign – that only evil people ask for a sign. He said that being buried in the tomb for three days and raised to life (the sign of Jonah) should be an awesome enough sign for anyone.

Actually you are totally wrong. Have you ever bothered to read the Bible. If you had you would have know that there are absolutely no witness accounts of Jesus arising from the dead. Three of the accounts discuss Mary Madeline coming to the tomb, seeing it opened and finding it empty. The accounts differ in that one has her alone, one with one other women and one with three women.

Resistance Is Futile said:
What vicious lie are you trying to insinuate! The lack of integrity on this blog is incredible. How low will some people stoop.

He’s talking about this. Yes, it’s this ridiculous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I

Resistance Is Futile said:
Mediaite makes money by providing a forum for bigots. The sites that advertise on this blog need to be made aware of this activity as well as the general community. If more people were aware of what was going on they would begin to flee this blog like rats from a sinking ship. Glen Beck can tell you how that feels. Mediaite has a responsibility to handle the bigotry it gives a forum for but to this point it has failed miserably to deal with it. Maybe public and advertiser pressure will help. It’s worth a shot.

* snicker *

Resistance Is Futile said:
What vicious lie are you trying to insinuate! The lack of integrity on this blog is incredible. How low will some people stoop.

You didn’t see the interview between Obama and Stephanopoulis where Obama said, “My Muslim faith,” and Stephanopoulis said, “You mean, your Christian faith?” BTW-I’m not insinuating anything. I’m out and out saying Obama clearly said,”My Muslim faith.” You can look it up.

It seems like a strange slip of the tongue. Kinda like a “heterosexual” saying,”While I was sodomizing my boyfriend Bruce last night.” Weird, huh?

pinandpuller said:
You didn’t see the interview between Obama and Stephanopoulis where Obama said, “My Muslim faith,” and Stephanopoulis said, “You mean, your Christian faith?” BTW-I’m not insinuating anything. I’m out and out saying Obama clearly said,”My Muslim faith.” You can look it up.

It seems like a strange slip of the tongue. Kinda like a “heterosexual” saying,”While I was sodomizing my boyfriend Bruce last night.” Weird, huh?

Did you watch the whole clip or just the edited version?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I

What slays me is the number of uberreichwingers, teabaggers and just plain racist bigots who rush to Mediaite so they can complain about how left wing the site is and how many people here don’t drink their Kool-Aid.
They have no problem telling other people what those people think, which is a miraculous power if you think about it.
They accept Graham being able to define who is or is not a Christian. That, I was taught , is a very un-Christian attitude. Something about, “Judge not, lest ye be judged.”
Above all, it escapes them that there would be no problem if Obama WERE a Muslim. Article VI forbids any religious test for office.

This is a test:

I think puppies are a joy to behold. On Easter, it’s probably OK if the kids eat a little too much chocolate. One of my favorite memories of childhood is walking to the country store with my grandfather. Being there when your friends need you is important. Courtesy in a marriage may be more important than attraction.

This concludes our test.

pinandpuller said:
Well do most Christians accidentally say, “My Muslim faith?” I know when I was witnessing downtown the other night I had to struggle to keep from telling people Mohammed died for their sins.

YOU, sir, are either:
Willfully ignorant.
Deliberately misleading.
A paid provocateur.
A plain, old fashioned ‘effing liar.
Which do you choose to be known as?

Alice67 said:
He’s talking about this. Yes, it’s this ridiculous.

Actually I hope Obama is a Muslim because I keep hearing how Islam is a religion of peace.

That Yusuf Islam is one peaceful cat, for instance.

Hey, how come the button at the bottom doesn’t say “Islam Comment”?

pinandpuller said:
Actually I hope Obama is a Muslim because I keep hearing how Islam is a religion of peace.

That Yusuf Islam is one peaceful cat, for instance.

Hey, how come the button at the bottom doesn’t say “Islam Comment”?

I’m sure you wish nothing but the absolute best for your country under the present leadership. And you want the absolute best for our POTUS. After all, what kind of person would want anything less?

Joseph Glackin said:
YOU, sir, are either:Willfully ignorant.Deliberately misleading.A paid provocateur.A plain, old fashioned ‘effing liar.Which do you choose to be known as?

Take me yourselves and pass judgment on me according to your own law!

pinandpuller said:
It seems like a strange slip of the tongue. Kinda like a “heterosexual” saying,”While I was sodomizing my boyfriend Bruce last night.” Weird, huh?

Not really. I’ve come to expect this sort of thinking from the right.

Alice67 said:
I’m sure you wish nothing but the absolute best for your country under the present leadership. And you want the absolute best for our POTUS. After all, what kind of person would want anything less?

They say Kobe beef is the best but I’ve never tried it myself.

pinandpuller said:
They say Kobe beef is the best but I’ve never tried it myself.

and what does that have to do with the topic at hand?

Alice67 said:
Not really. I’ve come to expect this sort of thinking from the right.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that. That’s the sort of thinking I expect from the left.

pinandpuller said:
They say Kobe beef is the best but I’ve never tried it myself

HA !

Alice67 said:
He’s talking about this. Yes, it’s this ridiculous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I

How dishonest can some people be. Obama was clearly addressing people who claimed he had Muslim faith. This blog has some very deceitful people without a semblance of morality or integrity.

pinandpuller said:
You didn’t see the interview between Obama and Stephanopoulis where Obama said, “My Muslim faith,” and Stephanopoulis said, “You mean, your Christian faith?” BTW-I’m not insinuating anything. I’m out and out saying Obama clearly said,”My Muslim faith.” You can look it up.

It seems like a strange slip of the tongue. Kinda like a “heterosexual” saying,”While I was sodomizing my boyfriend Bruce last night.” Weird, huh?

You are totally distorting what Obama said, He was talking about other peoples accusations. Have you no shame? Obviously not.

Alice67 said:
and what does that have to do with the topic at hand?

They serve it at the White House a lot I hear. You’re the who brought up wanting the best for the POTUS.

George C said:
HA !

Not surprising it is very good, especially raw.

pinandpuller said:
Not that there’s anything wrong with that. That’s the sort of thinking I expect from the left.

Rejecting just about everything you stand for? You betcha!

Resistance Is Futile said:
How dishonest can some people be. Obama was clearly addressing people who claimed he had Muslim faith. This blog has some very deceitful people without a semblance of morality or integrity.

That it does.

Resistance Is Futile said:
You are totally distorting what Obama said, He was talking about other peoples accusations. Have you no shame? Obviously not.

Notice how he conjures up homosexuality to make his silly point. Why does his mind go there I wonder?

Resistance Is Futile said:
You are totally distorting what Obama said, He was talking about other peoples accusations. Have you no shame? Obviously not.

You mean like “I can see Russia?” LOL!

Alice67 said:
Rejecting just about everything you stand for? You betcha!</blockquote

Not a Seinfeld fan I see.

pinandpuller said:
Not a Seinfeld fan I see

Deviod of a sense of humor .

Alice67 said:
Notice how he conjures up homosexuality to make his silly point. Why does his mind go there I wonder?

Are you implying that there is something wrong with homosexuality?

Joseph Glackin said:
What slays me is the number of uberreichwingers, teabaggers and just plain racist bigots who rush to Mediaite so they can complain about how left wing the site is and how many people here don’t drink their Kool-Aid.
They have no problem telling other people what those people think, which is a miraculous power if you think about it.
They accept Graham being able to define who is or is not a Christian. That, I was taught , is a very un-Christian attitude. Something about, “Judge not, lest ye be judged.”
Above all, it escapes them that there would be no problem if Obama WERE a Muslim. Article VI forbids any religious test for office.

A couple of things. Green or sweet tea, Kool – Aid is a lib thing and muslim or islam is not atrue religion, it’s more a barbaric way of life or a cult of personality if you will. So Barack better get studying because you never know when the ” real ” American people will spring a pop quiz on him.

Resistance Is Futile said:
Not surprising it is very good, especially raw.

Zzzzzzzz . Keep up please .Your slowing your class down .

Resistance Is Futile said:
You are totally distorting what Obama said, He was talking about other peoples accusations. Have you no shame? Obviously not.

This site can be a pretty dark. One has to keep themselves spiritually grounded to spend any time here.

Glacky, find those “draft” papers yet?

pinandpuller said:
Are you implying that there is something wrong with homosexuality?

No just pointing out your choice to use it as a weapon.

Alice67 said:
This site can be a pretty dark. One has to keep themselves spiritually grounded to spend any time here.

It’s gets dark when you show up. Wait, you never leave.

Alice67 said:
No just pointing out your choice to use it as a weapon.

Hey, hows your take down of mediaite coming along? How many advertisers have pulled the plug to date?

Dr. Graham asks a reasonable question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw

ahh it’s so nice to have the media on your side and “correcting” you.

Now you liars who claim he never said that……

what say you?

Resistance Is Futile said:
You are totally distorting what Obama said, He was talking about other peoples accusations. Have you no shame? Obviously not.

I don’t know-should I have shame? That’s an artificial construct isn’t it ;) ?

Actually, I will walk back the statement I made in the interest of fairness and accuracy since you pointed it out to me. I remembered the soundbite but didn’t review the entire clip before I said what I did. Contrary to what some might think I do usually keep a window open to research quotes or to backstop whatever I end up posting.

You have to admit, though, that Stephanopoulis jumped in awfully quick with the ,”Your Christian faith,” line. It wasn’t immediately clear to him where that was going.

So you heard it here first: You were right and I was wrong. Now help me run down the line about the Brandenburg Concerto being the most beautiful sound at night…

Alice67 said:
No just pointing out your choice to use it as a weapon.

So you are Pat Benatar now?

Jaurez said:
You mean like “I can see Russia?” LOL!

Just in the mood to prove your bias – and twisting of “fact” – now how about an apology?
http://www.slate.com/id/2200155/

Alice67 said:
This site can be a pretty dark. One has to keep themselves spiritually grounded to spend any time here.

So its not a shining city on a hill?

I can see Mecca from the White House!

seek said:
Just in the mood to prove your bias – and twisting of “fact” – now how about an apology?
http://www.slate.com/id/2200155/

I think u misunderstood me.

Looks like ellen and elie are voting alice69 up. LOL!

black and WHITE said:
A couple of things. Green or sweet tea, Kool – Aid is a lib thing and muslim or islam is not atrue religion, it’s more a barbaric way of life or a cult of personality if you will. So Barack better get studying because you never know when the ” real ” American people will spring a pop quiz on him.

If I won’t accept Graham’s judgment on other people’s faith, why on earth would I listen to a bigoted little twerp who uses O’Keefe/Breitbart tactics to pass off his perversion of the truth?
At least Graham is a second generation con-Christian who’s just in it for the money.

Joseph Glackin said:
If I won’t accept Graham’s judgment on other people’s faith, why on earth would I listen to a bigoted little twerp who uses O’Keefe/Breitbart tactics to pass off his perversion of the truth?
At least Graham is a second generation con-Christian who’s just in it for the money.

Hey, where’s the draft papers?

Jaurez said:
I think u misunderstood me.

Sorry Jaurez – good old ellie had me seeing “red” and I didn’t realize you had your tongue firmly planted in cheek.

The absolutely disgusting part of that entire interview was that Saturday Night Live did their skit and people would swear that Palin said “from my porch” – absolutely unbelievable how gullible and uninformed people can be and base their “hate” on a complete fabrication.

I can’t imagine his Father, the Rev. Billy Graham would be proud of his son. It’s a shame he doesn’t have near the intregrity his father did.

Joseph Glackin said:
If I won’t accept Graham’s judgment on other people’s faith, why on earth would I listen to a bigoted little twerp who uses O’Keefe/Breitbart tactics to pass off his perversion of the truth?At least Graham is a second generation con-Christian who’s just in it for the money.

He’s an embarrassment to his father.

we have to stand against this government, they drafted women during WWII and lied about it

glenn113 said:
I can’t imagine his Father, the Rev. Billy Graham would be proud of his son. It’s a shame he doesn’t have near the intregrity his father did.

Hey, if u see “skippy” can you tell him I have a question for him? Thanks.

seek said:
Sorry Jaurez – good old ellie had me seeing “red” and I didn’t realize you had your tongue firmly planted in cheek.

Can’t please everyone.

seek said:
The absolutely disgusting part of that entire interview was that Saturday Night Live did their skit and people would swear that Palin said “from my porch” – absolutely unbelievable how gullible and uninformed people can be and base their “hate” on a complete fabrication.

What you don’t get is that joke was not that she could see Russia from her house it’s that she cited Alaska’s proximity to Russia as her foreign policy experience. The joke was/is shorthand for how dumb can you be.

COURIC: You’ve cited Alaska’s proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?

PALIN: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and on our other side, the land– boundary that we have with– Canada. It– it’s funny that a comment like that was– kind of made to– cari– I don’t know, you know? Reporters–
COURIC: Mock?
PALIN: Yeah, mocked, I guess that’s the word, yeah.
COURIC: Explain to me why that enhances your foreign policy credentials.
PALIN: Well, it certainly does because our– our next door neighbors are foreign countries. They’re in the state that I am the executive of. And there in Russia–
COURIC: Have you ever been involved with any negotiations, for example, with the Russians?
PALIN: We have trade missions back and forth. We– we do– it’s very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border. It is– from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to– to our state.

Tedderman said:
Franklin Grahm,promoting hatred and ignorance through religion and….supporting Trump too, daddy must be so proud.

I’m sure his Daddy is not proud of him in the least. Billy Graham, very seldom, if at all got involved in politics.

Jaurez said:
Hey, if u see “skippy” can you tell him I have a question for him? Thanks.

don’t have a clue what you are talking about but with your avatar I can see why.

pinandpuller said:
I don’t know-should I have shame? That’s an artificial construct isn’t it ;) ?

Actually, I will walk back the statement I made in the interest of fairness and accuracy since you pointed it out to me. I remembered the soundbite but didn’t review the entire clip before I said what I did. Contrary to what some might think I do usually keep a window open to research quotes or to backstop whatever I end up posting.

You have to admit, though, that Stephanopoulis jumped in awfully quick with the ,”Your Christian faith,” line. It wasn’t immediately clear to him where that was going.

So you heard it here first: You were right and I was wrong. Now help me run down the line about the Brandenburg Concerto being the most beautiful sound at night…

I would not call the Brandenburg Concertos being the most beautiful music at night, a little busy for nighttime. I prefer the Chopin Nocturnes at night performed by Arthur Rubinstein or the Gentle Side of John Coltrane. Both are great night music pieces. In addition Keith Jarrett The Melody At Night, With You.

glenn113 said:
don’t have a clue what you are talking about but with your avatar I can see why.

Funny how someone would pick an avatar that says skip right past my posts. Do not stop. Nothing worth seeing here.

glenn113 said:
He’s an embarrassment to his father.

To be fair, his father was an embarassment to humankind.

Although I think ellie is one brick short of a load – just for her and any others who forgot “history”
http://www.usarak.army.mil/conservation/files/CWHD_Brochure.pdf

cjd ohio 1 said:
we have to stand against this government, they drafted women during WWII and lied about it

please mr. president tell us the truth sir

glenn113 said:
I’m sure his Daddy is not proud of him in the least. Billy Graham, very seldom, if at all got involved in politics.

You left off the /sarcasm tags.

Calling yourself a “Reverend” doenst make you a Christian …

Should I be surprised that someone who’s career is begging$ for money, would be enamored by Trump? They both talk a lot of B.S. thats for sure.

glenn113 said:
don’t have a clue what you are talking about but with your avatar I can see why.

Playing dumb must come natural, ay?

mediadoubt said:
This is a test:

I think puppies are a joy to behold. On Easter, it’s probably OK if the kids eat a little too much chocolate. One of my favorite memories of childhood is walking to the country store with my grandfather. Being there when your friends need you is important. Courtesy in a marriage may be more important than attraction.

This concludes our test.

It’s you. This concludes your test.

It’s not that he can’t Reverend; he won’t.

His whole political career, and the margin of victory in 2008, was based on his being the son of a black Luo tribesman. This was a total prevarication; his official biography is a colossal hoax. He has pretended that his adoptive parents were his birth parents. He lied, Reverend.

Mr. Obama’s DNA and his original birth certificate will prove that he does not have a Negro parent.

The original birth certificate would likely show Stanley Armour Dunham as the birth father and a native Hawai’ian wahine as the birth mother. Obama’s warm mahogany complexion was bestowed by his mother, whom he has not acknowledged. She might still be alive. If not, I would be most interested in the precise time and circumstances of her demise, and whether her remains were hastily cremated and cast into the sea, as in the cases of Stanley Ann Dunham and her mother Madelyn Lee Payne Dunham.

Recently it was suggested that Obama’s records were inconsistent with his official biography. See http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=283865 and http://www.westernjournalism.com/hawaii-elections-clerk-obama-caught-fibbing/. This supports the thesis that the names of parents on the certification of live birth were taken from the amended birth certificate reflecting an adoption, not from the original birth certificate, a contemporaneous record of birth showing birth parents, which “absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health.” See the redoubtable Michael Isikoff, “investigative correspondent” for the eminent NBC News, who apparently forgot to ask Dr. Fukino whether the names on the long form birth certificate, which Dr. Fukino has viewed twice, matched those on the certification of live birth, at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42519951/ns/politics-more_politics/.

Others might have seen the vital records and perhaps even photographed them. Maybe that’s why Governor Abercrombie asked Dr. Neal Palafox to resign as Health Director, a very short time after appointing him, http://www.wisepolitics.com/neal-palafox-hawaii-gov-abercrombie-health-director-resigns-3252.html/comment-page-1#comment-23454

Obama’s original birth certificate should be subpoenaed by Congress and any other competent authority to prove Obama’s natural born status at birth, and to prove election fraud by the theft of personal and racial identity.

If Mr. Obama wants to foist the certification of live birth on us as his “birth certificate”, he should be prepared to furnish a DNA sample. Analysis of his DNA will show it’s biologically impossible for him to be the son of a Luo tribesman and a Caucasian girl.

Anne 1 said:
* snicker *

This has got to be the color yelloww.

Garth said:
By “bloggings” you must mean I don’t know what the hell I am saying but I’ll say it anyway. Go figure.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bloggings

Resistance Is Futile said:
I would not call the Brandenburg Concertos being the most beautiful music at night, a little busy for nighttime. I prefer the Chopin Nocturnes at night performed by Arthur Rubinstein or the Gentle Side of John Coltrane. Both are great night music pieces. In addition Keith Jarrett The Melody At Night, With You.

Wow I guess I have to dial way back. I was making less a reference to a particular Bach piece but rather JS Bach’s Christian faith and reason behind composing contrasted to the Muslim’s call to prayer (Which Obama said was among the most beautiful sounds he had heard at night. Or maybe Bill Ayers said that-its confusing), Plus Eine Kline Nachtmusik would have been way too obvious and Mozart’s faith in God was a little more unclear to say the least. Moonlight Sonata ditto.

ndanielson said:
This has got to be the color yelloww.

Not sure of the referernce . Mr. Futile is not unlike a dog that chases cars .

Try this for yellow though . I actually made it a ringtone . : )

http://www.sheppardsoftware.com/preschool/colors/yellow.htm

The lone Republican in the Hawaii State Senate told a radio interviewer today he believes “the real issue” stopping Barack Obama from releasing his long-form birth certificate is something the president has to hide, perhaps even the name of his actual birth father.

Hawaii State Sen. Sam Slom further told the host of “Aaron Klein Investigative Radio” on WABC 770 AM in New York City that so long as Obama refuses to be transparent about his past, questions about the president’s birth remain “a legitimate issue.”

“My particular point of view – and why I haven’t identified myself as a ‘birther,’ per se – is that [Obama] probably was born [in Hawaii] and that the real issue is not the birth certificate, but what’s on the birth certificate,” Slom told Klein.

Asked what that could be, Slom said, “It could have to do with what his name is on the birth certificate, who is actually listed as his father, the citizenship of the father.”

He continued, “My belief is that there is a birth certificate, he was born here, but that there is information that for reasons known only to him he doesn’t want released. If it were just the birth certificate, that would be one thing, but it’s his school records, it’s employment records. … Why would anybody, let alone the president of the United States, spend millions of dollars in legal fees to keep that hidden?”

“As long as that goes on,” he concluded, “I think it’s a legitimate issue.”

Read more: Hawaii senator questions Obama’s true birth father http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=291041#ixzz1KVTm77nf

Joseph Glackin said:
If I won’t accept Graham’s judgment on other people’s faith, why on earth would I listen to a bigoted little twerp who uses O’Keefe/Breitbart tactics to pass off his perversion of the truth?At least Graham is a second generation con-Christian who’s just in it for the money.

We need more Franky Schaeffer types-you betcha!

glacky has no room to criticize anyone after being caught in a bold faced lie like he did the other day.

cjd ohio 1 said:
we have to stand against this government, they drafted women during WWII and lied about it

I think Cheap Trick sang about that right?

Alice67 said:
Funny how someone would pick an avatar that says skip right past my posts. Do not stop. Nothing worth seeing here.

I can see Rock City from your avatar! This is fun-you betcha!

Jaurez said:
… Why would anybody, let alone the president of the United States, spend millions of dollars in legal fees to keep that hidden?”

He hasn’t spent “millions of dollars” to keep it “hidden”. I wish they’d stop repeating this lie so the less informed believe it.

Rev. Graham was asked a question form Amanpour about the birth certificate- he answered thoughtfully not outrightly dismissing it. What’s the problem?
The form that we have seen is indeed the very short form. This was the form rejected by the State Department when we had to renew my daughters passport. Notice, I said renew- meaning they should have had a copy of her original birth certificate in order to approve the first passport. So if it isn’t good enough for her, then why should the President of the United States get a pass, when it comes to an acceptable form of identification. Who does he think he is to deny Americans acceptable proof, it sort of comes with the job?
Regardless of the birth certificate – I would just like to see anything that backs up what the president and his inner circle have claimed about him. This very public man doesn’t leave a paper trail and that naturally makes people suspicious. Writing a biography doesn’t count.

Jaurez said:
The lone Republican in the Hawaii State Senate told a radio interviewer today he believes “the real issue” stopping Barack Obama from releasing his long-form birth certificate is something the president has to hide, perhaps even the name of his actual birth father.

Hawaii State Sen. Sam Slom further told the host of “Aaron Klein Investigative Radio” on WABC 770 AM in New York City that so long as Obama refuses to be transparent about his past, questions about the president’s birth remain “a legitimate issue.”

“My particular point of view – and why I haven’t identified myself as a ‘birther,’ per se – is that [Obama] probably was born [in Hawaii] and that the real issue is not the birth certificate, but what’s on the birth certificate,” Slom told Klein.

Asked what that could be, Slom said, “It could have to do with what his name is on the birth certificate, who is actually listed as his father, the citizenship of the father.”

He continued, “My belief is that there is a birth certificate, he was born here, but that there is information that for reasons known only to him he doesn’t want released. If it were just the birth certificate, that would be one thing, but it’s his school records, it’s employment records. … Why would anybody, let alone the president of the United States, spend millions of dollars in legal fees to keep that hidden?”

“As long as that goes on,” he concluded, “I think it’s a legitimate issue.”

Read more: Hawaii senator questions Obama’s true birth father http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=291041#ixzz1KVTm77nf

So see, satan Is actually his real father after all….I knew it.

ElCapitanAmerica said:
He hasn’t spent “millions of dollars” to keep it “hidden”. I wish they’d stop repeating this lie so the less informed believe it.

You’re right, It is two million spent to cover up who he was before who he is today…..and that’s only so far.

black and WHITE said:
You’re right, It is two million spent to cover up who he was before who he is today…..and that’s only so far.

LOL love to see people who aren’t afraid to repeat internet memes like they are the Gospel Truth. I often wonder if folks like black and WHITE graduated from high school, or just took the GED route to get right to digging ditches. Rather than believe what David Duke would have you believe
http://www.davidduke.com/general/obama-has-spent-an-estimated-two-million-dollars-not-to-show-a-10-birth-certificate_23557.html
maybe you should try rational thought and do a little research
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/apr/12/donald-trump/donald-trump-claims-obama-has-spent-2-million-lega/

pinandpuller said:
Wow I guess I have to dial way back. I was making less a reference to a particular Bach piece but rather JS Bach’s Christian faith and reason behind composing contrasted to the Muslim’s call to prayer (Which Obama said was among the most beautiful sounds he had heard at night. Or maybe Bill Ayers said that-its confusing), Plus Eine Kline Nachtmusik would have been way too obvious and Mozart’s faith in God was a little more unclear to say the least. Moonlight Sonata ditto.

Mozart’s Requiem, his last major work seemed to express a dark fear of the almighty. It is a powerful of foreboding work.

I believe the reverend’s mother may be a donkey. I’m not a “donkeyist”, per se, but you know, why can’t he produce evidence that his mother is not a donkey? I’ve spent a lot of time looking into this and the fact that reverend graham has not produced one shred of evidence that he is not part donkey is compelling. There’s something there.

maybe the dog ate Obummers birth certificate

Rgentum said:
I believe the reverend’s mother may be a donkey. I’m not a “donkeyist”, per se, but you know, why can’t he produce evidence that his mother is not a donkey? I’ve spent a lot of time looking into this and the fact that reverend graham has not produced one shred of evidence that he is not part donkey is compelling. There’s something there.

Figures. For only an indiviual who is so obviously fully ensconsed in the party of jackasses would chose his/her own likeness as a comparison. What, you couldn’t even THINK of something else?

Hey Franklin, keep pocketing poor people’s donations to the two “charities” you do so much valuable work for that you are entitled to 1+ million a year. Disgusting human being.

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WOW another evangelist that is going nuts, we supported Franklin until now, no longer will get from us
so sad that a man of God can go rascist

Rgentum said:
I believe the reverend’s mother may be a donkey. I’m not a “donkeyist”, per se, but you know, why can’t he produce evidence that his mother is not a donkey? I’ve spent a lot of time looking into this and the fact that reverend graham has not produced one shred of evidence that he is not part donkey is compelling. There’s something there.

What is he hiding?

Wow, Franklin Graham said something the left finds “offensive” so the smears start!

I guess you missed the programs Greta did on what Franklin Graham does, and the truth about the man. Nah, it’s much easier to make up garbage that is completely off the wall, and put your hate hat on for Franklin now. After all he dared to make a comment you found “offensive”

BTW anyone know what the truth is? Oh, sorry you guys don’t trade in truth – just absolute nonsense and you have no trouble passing it on.

Since you seem so interested in the workings of a charity, how do you feel about Jesse Jackson’s net worth estimated at 100 million? How do you feel about the fact that the wonderful Mr. Jackson (sorry can’t call someone a Reverend who buys their degrees without attending any divinity college). Ten years ago the fool was “charging” expenses of $3,000. Living large seems to suit him. Yes, his “charity” has done wonderful things for who – oh yes Jesse himself.
BTW – what exactly was Jackson overhead saying about Obama? Anyone remember? lol

black and WHITE said:
Figures. For only an indiviual who is so obviously fully ensconsed in the party of jackasses would chose his/her own likeness as a comparison. What, you couldn’t even THINK of something else?

Forgive Rgentum, he got it backwards. We all know Franklin’s father was the jackass in the family.

Clearly, body oder, oops, I mean BO is hiding something that he deperately wants to keep hidden from his subjects. Unfortunately, for him, he can’t keep it hidden forever. We will find out the truth about you, Barry. You are finished!

Dem4Ever said:

It must suck to be you.
What were you like BEFORE the syphilis went tertiary?

Franklin, no one knows why he cannot produce it. But rest assured, the Free World should take comfort that a minor functionary in Hawaii has seen the nebulous birth documents and can attest to their authenticity.

The president has shown a legitimate birth certificate that is a legal document that proves he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii and is a citizen of these United States. I really think it is a shame that Billy Graham, an honorable man, should have a son has slimy as Franklin. Probably just as well his mother didn’t live to see this.

I don’t know why this birth cert issue keeps popping up. is it for the politics? well may. Obama has shown a legitimate birth certificate what else is left for him to do?
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MTinMO said:
The president has shown a legitimate birth certificate that is a legal document that proves he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii and is a citizen of these United States. I really think it is a shame that Billy Graham, an honorable man, should have a son has slimy as Franklin. Probably just as well his mother didn’t live to see this.

I don’t know if you remember this, but thought perhaps it might clear up your issue.

Over at The Atlantic’s website, writer Andrew Sullivan, a passionate defender of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), posted a series of breathless blog items laying out the case (if it can be called that) against the perfidious Palin. There was no compelling evidence—circumstantial or otherwise—to support such a claim, but as Sullivan argued, it was the media’s job to ask the uncomfortable questions.

So based on a hunch, he requested that the campaign “release Palin’s medical records for the past year to rebut for good and all the rumors on the Internets and the very, very strange chronology surrounding the pregnancy and birth of Trig Palin.” The onus was on the campaign to address every wild conspiracy theory floated online, he argued: “Why not kill this rumor with Palin’s medical records?…Just release them, ok?…And we can all breathe a sigh of relief and move on.

- Michael Moynihan – 2008

Hmm, people wanted Palin to “prove” she gave birth – but you’re o.k. with Obama proving nothing, because he doesn’t have to.

Like I’ve stated, I’m not a ‘birther” – I just don’t appreciate the ridicule the left is heaping on people suddenly. I think Obama has proven he is not good at being President. That is the only thing he has managed to prove.

If we follow the logic – It makes no earthly difference where he was born, what his religion is,
or any other superficial “fact”. His actions since he arrived at the White House are the “proof” I’m going by.

You also notice that the left keeps asking this stupid question from the right. Why? Why don’t they ask the important questions? Because, they know the answers already and don’t like them – doesn’t reflect well on Obama and the Democrats.