matthews lost this one

I think Chris has used weirder, uglier, funnier, dumber lines than hissy fit. He is not the proper person to be calling out Norquist on his choice of words.  Chris is thoing stones in his glass house again. Actualy on this one he’s chucking boulders.

“…preventing Republicans from agreeing to a deficit compromise…”

Every DemSenator voted against raising the debt ceiling in 2006. Did they want the countryto default , Chris ? Are theyobstructionist ? UnAmerican ?

                                                  Nays 48
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Burns (R-MT)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Clinton (D-NY)
Coburn (R-OK)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)Durbin (D-IL)
Ensign (R-NV)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)Lincoln (D-AR)Menendez (D-NJ)Mikulski (D-MD)Murray (D-WA)Nelson (D-FL)Nelson (D-NE)Obama (D-IL)Pryor (D-AR)Reed (D-RI)Reid (D-NV)Rockefeller (D-WV)Salazar (D-CO)Sarbanes (D-MD)Schumer (D-NY)Stabenow (D-MI)Wyden (D-OR)

The most important one being that 1st term Democrat from Illinois.

if not for the pathetic showing of lack of backbone so many times in the past, i don’t see how democrats could loose this one.  give us what we want or we tank the economy?  how can they loose that argument?
then again, they are democrats and i don’t put it past them.

More Bill Maher-type humor here: “I’ll bet Chris Matthews will go home tonight and beat his wife and kids–pets, if he has them–utterly senseless because his beloved Obamo was accused of having ‘hissy fits.’”

In other news-

Obama economy creates twice as many campaign contributors as jobs in second quarter!

Norquist should have called Obama a “ballonhead” – let’s see Matthews feign indigence over that one.

“Badgers” is a loaded word.  Something I’d expect to read in “The News Of The World” or the “NY Post.”  Clean up your act.

I don’t know what Matthews thought he heard, but Norquist seemed to be saying that he doesn’t think Obama wouldn’t be petty enough to do something dangerous to the economy over his left wing ideals.
We’re going to wind up with some sort of lame compromise that barely covers the interest on our debt so that politicians can continue their spending spree.

Here’s Capitol Hill dynamics 101 on the debt ceiling. The party in power votes for the increase and the party out of power votes against it in general, yet both assure there are enough votes in both chambers to get it to pass. up until now it’s seen as a “must-pass” bill. with this debate, this “must-pass” bill now has a fair chance of not passing. So in essence in ’06…Obama and the other senators were voting against it because they knew it would pass one way or another, simply adhering to Capitol Hill dynamics.

Senator Mikulski explained that to a large group of people. Gosh, news in the Beltway and news outside can seem so different at times

Chrissy got pwned!! 

yes, its called politics and sometimes it comes back and bites you in the ass 

Take your Valium Matthews and read Super Grover’s lips! No new taxes and no wire hangers, EVER!! Sputtering fool!

“Super Grover”?  Do you wash his feet too?

Steve Wynn is a Democrat , and he’s had enough of Obama :

“The guy keeps making speeches about redistribution and maybe we ought to do something to businesses that don’t invest, their holding too much money. We haven’t heard that kind of talk except from pure socialists. Everybody’s afraid of the government and there’s no need soft peddling it, it’s the truth. It is the truth. And that’s true of Democratic businessman and Republican businessman, and I am a Democratic businessman and I support Harry Reid. I support Democrats and Republicans. And I’m telling you that the business community in this company is frightened to death of the weird political philosophy of the President of the United States. And until he’s gone, everybody’s going to be sitting on their thumbs.”

http://www.businessinsider.com/wynn-ceo-steve-wynn-conference-call-transcript-obama-2011-7

very true, and it really comes back when it’s the debt ceiling, it’s like a mosquito

Oh, for goodness sake!

Matthews defines “hissy fit”.

He’s done everything but throw a shoe at a guest.

This guy is running the Republican policy of no tax increase. Unbelievable.

This guy is running the Republican policy of no tax increase. Unbelievable.

Anyone else getting tired of how MSNBC is dividing our country? If Obama had any leadership skills this wouldn’t even be an issue. Here’s a video I found comparing Reagan to Obama. Short, funny, but definately sad at what we once were as a nation.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ItivmcAOaE 

Chris Mathews showed Norquist for the wing nut money grubbing pig that he is.  Oh, excuse me … I mean Super Grover.  LOL

Must be a DINO.

as if anyone watches MSNBC to begin with…3rd in the ratings. 

there are 3 major media outlets. Two have clear ideological agendas. FOX – Conservative, MSNBC – Liberal, 

CNN – ???? (I have no idea what CNN is up to). I wish there was a source that I could just get straight news with no spin. Clearly not in America

lol, true

You’ve pointed out one of the biggest problems. Who wants to risk their money while the government is flailing around out of control? The risk takers don’t have any idea how badly they are going to be punished, so no new jobs and no growth of the economy. Politicians can’t seem to understand what the people who drive the economy are up against. Not even their economists seem to understand. We will stagnate until the government starts to settle down and make some kind of sense. Politician’s personal agendas and ability to get re-elected trump our prosperity.

The Democrats were stupid for voting against the debt ceiling increase as a way of protesting the runaway spending on the Bush tax cuts and the Iraq War.  Of course, they weren’t in the majority, and they didn’t attempt to filibuster.  It was dumb, but it was purely for show.

The GOP is in charge now, and this time they seem to WANT a default, if for nothing else to score imaginary political points against President Obama.  One GOP senator is even threatening to filibuster the increase in the debt ceiling.  This isn’t show anymore – this is the real thing, and the GOP has lost its collective mind.

 Barry was opposed to it? And now he is for it? Who does he think he is, John Kerry??

I’m afraid it isn’t MSNBC that advocates getting 100% of what Democrats want or the economy gets it.  Sounds like pure Fox News projection.

Chris- what has Barry agreed to cut?

Name one specific cut he has mentioned- not that he says all options are open- name one specific cut?

Answer: NONE!

noun. A sudden outburst of temper, often used to
describe female anger at something trivial. Originally regional from
American South. Thought to originate from contraction of “hysterical
fit.”

should have said sissy fit

Thanks for that. I’d almost forgotten what a fraud Ronnie was…

norquist, and every other republican, are about as bright as a bag of hammers

“Badger” is entirely correct. Matthews throws so many fallacious arguments at Norquist my jaw would have dropped if this wasn’t Matthews’ standard practice. Ask three terribly disingenuous questions in rapid fire order and then start arguing with the guest before he can even complete a sentence in reply. Considering the circumstances, Norquist did very well.

One thing Norquist didn’t get a chance to rebut was Matthews’ contention that since federal revenues are now only 16% of GDP, lower than the historical average of 18%, that the only sensible recourse was to raise taxes. Apparently it doesn’t occur to him that the revenues are down because the country is in a severe economic downturn with millions unemployed and that if it were to return to any semblance of economic normalcy, those revenues would soon return to their historic levels. But, no, no, no, we MUST raise taxes NOW! Oh Chris, you’re such a buffoon, and that’s why we love you so!

Hissy fit ?  …. You know it’s that thing of when , like , a host with a mild speech impediment ,repeatedly interupts his guest, while gleaking like a super soaker .

so are you actually making the argument that raising taxes won’t raise any revenue?

and btw, just because we’re in a recession, and revenue is down, doesn’t mean it’s a
good idea not to raise taxes.

the single greatest cause of our structural debt is:  the bush tax cuts

the only buffoons are the ones not considering ANY tax increases

they happen to be the ones (ironically) who are MOST obsessed about the debt

This ties into the question often asked of Republicans: Why didn’t you take that 4:1 deal of spending cuts/increased revenues? Because the tax hikes would take place almost immediately and those nebulous, never defined “spending cuts” would be instituted sometime off in the future, with absolutely no guarantee that they would ever actually occur. It’s a no brainer, really. Start declaring what will be cut and WHEN it will be cut and we can have a serious discussion.

Hissy Fit: a sudden outburst or violent display of rage, frustration, and bad temper, usually occurring in a maladjusted child and certain emotionally disturbed people. The activity is usually not directed at anyone or anything specific but toward the environment in general and is used primarily as a device for attempting to control others and the surroundings. It most commonly occurs at age 2 to 2-½ years. Also called temper tantrum.

Do you have a reading disorder? I didn’t say raising taxes wouldn’t raise any revenue. Where did you get THAT idea!?!

You ought to retake ECON 101 as you obviously flunked out the first time. When has raising taxes during an economic downturn EVER been a good idea?

The Bush tax cuts benefit the middle class way more than you assume. Repealing the cuts so the gov’t can have more money to spend foolishly will NOT help the middle class in any way. I suppose you’ve never heard of Medicare or Medicaid, whose spiraling costs have EVERYTHING to do with our structural debt. Don’t believe those charts you see posted over at dailyKOS. Have you ever heard the expression, “Figures don’t lie, but liars sure can figure”? That’s especially true when the liars are terribly biased and are trying to push a fraudulent agenda.

Please, Chris, leave poor Grover alone so he can get back to sexting with his male interns.

Tingles is soooo cute when he acts like he knows wth is going on!!

Americans for Tax Reform (ATR) – Puppet
Master of Deficit Shell Game

A recent editorial by Americans for Tax
Reform (ATR) in USA TODAY titled Opposing view: Just say no to higher taxes

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2011-07-04-opposing-view-debt-limit-taxes_n.htm

speaks volumes regarding the Obama
administration’s misjudgment with the Fiscal Commission. Demands for the
Commission arose from the 2008 book/movie I.O.U.S.A. highlighted: the Leadership,
trade, savings and budget deficits; the first three being the most middle class
relevant and root causes of the budget deficit, the tip of the iceberg. The ATR’s
pledge signers (not permitted to negotiate in good faith) limit the focus only
to spending, throwing middle class relevant deficits under the bus and allow
ATR to be the Puppet Master of a deficit shell game.

You have yet to explain how raising taxes benefits anyone except the MOOCHERS. Cutting those people off so they can fend for themselves would be the best thing that could happen to this country. Safety nets are all fine and well, but when safety nets turn into a lifestyle, it’s time for change.

And Matthews can return to ogling pictures of moochele and her “awesomely toned arms”. Anything to recreate that “tingling” sensation, eh?

Chris is defending Obama against language undignified? Hm, right, like wee wee up?

Grover likes the young boys.

Hey Toby…the tingling comment is about 3 years old at this point.  Is that all you got?

It NEVER gets old!

Seeing as that “tingling” comment pretty much defines Matthews’ stance vis-à-vis the Obama administration, it’s ALWAYS relevant.

 Here’s how many Republicans Senators voted to raise the debt ceiling each time it came up for a vote since 1997.1997: 552002: 312003: 502004: 502006: 512007: 262008: 342008: 33Then Obama was elected.2009: 22009: 12010: 0

Why does Matthews even waste his breath trying to reason with nitwit ideologues like this? Norquist, like most Republicans these days, has a mentality that cannot grasp basic economics: the budget shortfall will not be bridged with spending cuts alone. No matter how many facts you parade in front of them, no matter how sound the logic of the argument, these guys remain hopelessly committed to an insane path that will make the 2008 collapse look like a little bump in the road.

the two primary causes of our structural debt are:

1.  the bush tax cuts

2.  the wars

Glad they finally learned their lesson and quit voting away our great great great grandchildren’s future.

Do you really really believe that GJP? Really? I hope you are not that naive.

ok, so you DO believe raising taxes will raise revenue, and cut the deficit,
but yet you are STILL opposed to that idea. 

interesting.

The deal could be 4 Trillion in cuts and, literary, $5 in taxes and Norquist would be against it. That’s how Sharia he is about taxes. 

A new study on the economy ….. http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2011/07/chart-penile-length-leads-little-economic-growth/40117/

They’re blinded by their lust for power.

That’s because they’re liars.  And then they start talking about moochers …. which we all know is shorthand for taking out country back from those that don’t belong in our White House.

That’s because they’re liars.  And then they start talking about moochers …. which we all know is shorthand for taking out country back from those that don’t belong in our White House.

I had to laugh at the assertion by Harvard educated Norquist that he supports a retail sales tax which disproportionately penalizes working class Americans … but he adamantly opposes any attempt to close tax loopholes on corporations like the right wing’s bogeyman General Electric.

Way to alienate independent voters with modest incomes Grover!

When running for president, I remember Obama saying things like, “roll up my sleeves and get straight to work on this deficit”… and ” I’ll go over every program with a fine tooth comb and cut any and all extra expenses”… blah blah blah.  Now he just wants to keep raising those taxes… I’m  a small business guy and one thing for sure – my standard of living is not going to change one bit.  That means I will not be expanding to any other locations or hiring any newbies, and I will actually cut the wages and benefits of my worker bee’s to pay any incresases I am faced with.  You see, people with money… at the end of the day we  DONT ACTUALLYPAY MORE TAXES… we simply pass the cost (taxes) on to our customers and our employees.  SAD BUT SO VERY TRUE.

Grover Norquist has never worked a day in his life. He is the epitome of a DC bloodsucker.

The sum-total of Chrissy Matthews resume these past three years: “Obamo gave me a thrill up my leg and I’m ENRAGED that this didn’t happen to EVERYONE!!”

Tingles ‘knows’ hissy fits!
My God, he is annoying.
Obvious ratings disaster, is Matthews

Matthews, they gave a pledge to remain in office and do the honorable thing. You know, something Honorable people do and stick to. I understand you would say one thing and do another because well, you have no honor and would be more like a normal politician and just lie till you got the job and lead us into yet more debt. Let’s be honest here, Obama ran on lies and won, doubled the spending and has put us in a worse position than we had been in. It seems the left and those news channels on the left believe in no honor. Let’s hope Republicans can do the Honorable thing and keep their pledge and have the President roll up those sleeves he promised to do at election time and start making cuts and showing those cuts on paper. Matthews? is your President to good to starting cutting as he promised he would? please..take your whine and find some cheese..the Pyramid Scheme has ended, time to get back on track.

Translation: When Democrats to it, it’s fine. When Republicans do it, it’s treason.

Hypocrite.

Translation: When Democrats to it, it’s fine. When Republicans do it, it’s treason.

Hypocrite.

Matthews was reduced to a gasping, desperate, incoherent pile of nothingness in this interview.

What spending cuts have the Democrats proposed?

Every Democrat voted against raising the debt ceiling in 2006 when BOOOOOOOSH was President. Now they’re suddenly in favor of it becuase they spent so much money between 2007 and 2010 that they’ve permanently screwed the economy of the country?

Pres. Obama is not a a left-wing ideologue.  He is not an  ideologue.  He looks for solutions– regardless if liberal and conservative to govern the nation for the common good.  Too be sure,  Norquist’s pledge is the product of ultra right-wing ideology.

Pres. Obama ran on reforming health care, and he did.  Most, not all, of things that Obama promise during his campaign, he has either done or tried to do.

As a small business guy, Pres. Obama helped  you.  Last fall, the Democratic Congress passed measures specifically designed  to help small business.  The GOP voted against the legislation.  
Also if your business is that small, the tax loopholes they are speaking of closing to raise revenue will not effect you.  Do you manage a hedge-fund?  Good luck with your business!

The Biden plan offered 87% in spending cuts.  The cuts were wide ranged.  The exact areas that will be cut are not totally known to the general public, but what is known is that the GOP will not agree to any kind of revenue generating measures.   

Taxes needed to raised from the day that this nation went to war.  The situation became worst after the financial meltdown.  The collapse of the financial institution was the game changer. 
Both sides of the isle had been talking about how the tax code needed to be reform.  Both believed this would be away to generate more revenue.

Tax will not be raised in this economic down turn.  The  closing of the tax loop-holes that will generate revenue will begin 2013.  To reiterate,  taxes in 2011 and 2012 will not be raised on any one, nor will there be a closing of any loop-holes during this time period.

The Biden talks offered 87% in spending cuts.  The cuts were wide ranged.  The people in the room know what those cuts are. The exact areas that will be cut are not totally known to the general public, but what is known is that the GOP will not agree to any kind of revenue generating measures.

evidently you can’t read. the cuts he envisioned are in the range of $3 billion…go look them up.

“Badger” is loaded Let us not get confused in the hypocrisy, Norquist is not a
victim.  For Norquist to be able to so
casually display the kind of hypocrisy only comes from him fully internalizing
and accepting the idea that anyone not in his group is “the other”.    He thinks that different standards apply to
him than apply to ”the other”.   He thinks
that he can spew a dozen hateful comments about Pres. Obama and that somehow,
by virtue of believing that he is on the right side, justifies not adhering to
standard of respect for the office of presidency.

I would like to know if the Tea Party and Grover Norquist have ties to Rupert Murdoch. After all Murdoch
owns Fox News and all the puppets there. Just a recurring thought and it would not surprise me.

Does Chris wear diapers when he’s talking about the Prez?  (He tinkles in his pants when he thinks about —-.)  His childish behavior when he talks over, interrupts, and he refuses to allow his “guests” to answer the questions that he asks them indicates he is a pretty disturbed individual who’s never grown up.  MSNBC can’t last as a so called “News” organization much longer and anyone who sees what a sham that network is should not support any company that spews this kind of dribble.  We have too much at stake in our children’s and our grandchildren’s future to let such brain dead knuckle-dragging Neanderthal followers of the “mess-i-ah” to waste time on our air-ways.

Grover Norquist is not an elected “anything”.  Shoot him into space and his pledge with him!

Who the hell is Norquist to demand anything from our elected officials.  They took an oath to this country and to the people who elected them, not some wealthy, silver-spoon-in-mouth spoiled brat. If you are so damn smart how come you weren’t elected president.  Your not smart enough to wipe Chris Matthews’s boots or you would have your own news show instead of shooting your mouth off here.