Of course it is about race.

Lunacy on display .

Matthews was once able to forget Obama was black for ‘one full hour’. It would be beneficial to Obama and the rest of us if he would draw on that experience and forget once and for all.

i don’t think people begrudge him travel, or protection. it was the idea of a $200M/day or $2B trip that had people outraged.

If this trip costs anywhere near $200M a day, then I would say it’s time to dial up google chat and stay home. If not, then travel away.

and matthews is an ridiculous for evoking yet ANOTHER race card. seriously, is that ALL he has left?

*eyeroll* when is he going to get canned?

RIChris said:
Matthews was once able to forget Obama was black for ‘one full hour’. It would be beneficial to Obama and the rest of us if he would draw on that experience and forget once and for all.

it’s ALL he can think about, isn’t it? makes him sound like the racist…he just can’t get past obama’s skin color.

It’s true, there are still some pathetic people who still judge every news story on the basis of skin color. Namely, the hosts at MSNBC. I never hear Fox hosts judge anyone or anything on the basis of skin color, but this comes up as an issue every day at MSNBC.

Matthews white guilt has reached unprecedented heights.

That’s why you never heard one word of criticism against George Bush. Because he’s white.

sarainitaly said:
i don’t think people begrudge him travel, or protection. it was the idea of a $200M/day or $2B trip that had people outraged. If this trip costs anywhere near $200M a day, then I would say it’s time to dial up google chat and stay home. If not, then travel away. and matthews is an ridiculous for evoking yet ANOTHER race card. seriously, is that ALL he has left? *eyeroll* when is he going to get canned?

That’s a damn lie, Tumbleweed, and if you watched American television you would know that this was a lie sspread by Lard Limbaugh, virtually every liar at FOX and the liar Michelle Bachmann.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/nov/04/michele-bachmann/rep-michele-bachmann-claims-obamas-trip-india-will/

sarainitaly said:
it’s ALL he can think about, isn’t it? makes him sound like the racist…he just can’t get past obama’s skin color.

Nor can you. The affectation is only different.

You people just keep believeing in that Fox stuff they spew.It is all about race.The Turtle man came out like a plantation master trying to rein in his run away buck.Its disgusting and you people who try to turn it around are a joke,save it.

sarainitaly said:
it’s ALL he can think about, isn’t it? makes him sound like the racist…he just can’t get past obama’s skin color.

felixw said:
It’s true, there are still some pathetic people who still judge every news story on the basis of skin color. Namely, the hosts at MSNBC. I never hear Fox hosts judge anyone or anything on the basis of skin color, but this comes up as an issue every day at MSNBC.

writer said:
That’s why you never heard one word of criticism against George Bush. Because he’s white.

murf said:
Matthews white guilt has reached unprecedented heights.

I always find it amusing when the racists start screaming racism.

It’s stunning the lies conservatives are willing to believe, even it makes No SENSE at all.

Anything that they think makes Obama sound bad, they put it on the air or put it online.

Who cares if it is true, cons say.

Welcome to 2010 in America, where the truth doesn’t matter–all that matters is the Obama slam of the day to feed the media beast.

shootfromthehip said:
It’s stunning the lies conservatives are willing to believe, even it makes No SENSE at all. Anything that they think makes Obama sound bad, they put it on the air or put it online. Who cares if it is true, cons say. Welcome to 2010 in America, where the truth doesn’t matter–all that matters is the Obama slam of the day to feed the media beast.

You just don’t understand. It’s his policies they are attacking, not him. Of course, when you ask them what those policies are they either don’t know or they tell you increased taxes (despite the fact that it is demonstrably clear most Americans paid less in taxes for tax year 2009 than they did for tax year 2008). It’s the man, and inmy own view, the man’s color. There is no other explanation.

Pat Quinn said:
Of course it is about race.

It’s about the disbelief that anyone could criticize Obama for anything. In the tunnel vision of Matthews pea brain, it just has to be racial. How about those goosebumps now Chris?

The Real Royal King said:

sarainitaly said:
i don’t think people begrudge him travel, or protection. it was the idea of a $200M/day or $2B trip that had people outraged. If this trip costs anywhere near $200M a day, then I would say it’s time to dial up google chat and stay home. If not, then travel away. and matthews is an ridiculous for evoking yet ANOTHER race card. seriously, is that ALL he has left? *eyeroll* when is he going to get canned?

That’s a damn lie, Tumbleweed, and if you watched American television you would know that this was a lie sspread by Lard Limbaugh, virtually every liar at FOX and the liar Michelle Bachmann.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/nov/04/michele-bachmann/rep-michele-bachmann-claims-obamas-trip-india-will/

What the f*ck did I lie about, stalker?

“The claim that the U.S. would be spending “a whopping $200 million per day” on Obama’s visit to Mumbai, India, originated in a report from the news agency Press Trust of India. It was an estimate attributed anonymously to “a top official of the Maharashtra Government privy to the arrangements for the high-profile visit.” Maharashtra is a state located in western India.”

do you stutter when you lie?

The Real Royal King said:
That’s a damn lie, this was a lie sspread by virtually every liar at FOX .

now THAT is a damn lie.

I am not a fan of Tweetie and don’t normally go with all of this racist crap either but this time I think is an example of just how much people hate Obama on the right. It may well be that they begrudge him because of he is black who knows but NO ONE ever critized any other president for their foreign travel costs. Actually do you remember idiot BUSH dancing in Africa and was any one complaining how much it cost to send him there for dancing lessons. I am sick and tired of all of your stupid right wing crap,.

sarainitaly said:
now THAT is a damn lie.

It was Fox’s best buddy RUSH that was all over it. I don’t watch Fox so have no idea if the lied this.

Is this the same Chris Matthews, who once said that some of his homeboys from his own ‘hood, had often remarked that they want minorities to do well and have equality, but they just don’t want minorities living in their ‘hoods? Rick Sanchez was spot-on about the white liberal media. They talk the talk on air, but privately, they seldom walk the walk. Chris Matthews, the pseudo-liberal.

“The pseudo-liberal is a mutation of the liberal that exists in Britain. The pseudo-liberal is essentially a bigot who parades under the illusion of being a liberal.” Courtesy of Uncyclopedia.

Obama is again making history. His visit to their parliment marks the first time a teleprompter has EVER been used there. Congrats on another first, BO!!

I don’t know what alternate universe that “the real royal king” lives in but our taxes went up $1100 in 2009…and btw: we earned less than 50 grand so don’t try to play the 250,000+ card on me.

I see Mediaite missed the story of Peggy Noonen ripping Palin a new one for comparing herself to RAYGUN. Now why is that???

BlackWidow said:
Actually do you remember idiot BUSH dancing in Africa and was any one complaining how much it cost to send him there for dancing lessons. I am sick and tired of all of your stupid right wing crap,.

did a news story come out that said Bush’ would be taking a trip was costing $200 million a day, $2 billion total?

he was certainly attacked for the amount of trips he took to his ranch. and let’s not forget his *pricey* inauguration.

Two columns by Media Matters’ Eric Boehlert (latest via Steve Benen) capture this “…aaaaand switch!” dynamic quite well. In 2005, Boehlert was outraged at Bush’s inauguration.

He wrote, “The D.C. press corps failed to ask hard questions about the inauguration’s huge cost and its unprecedented security.”
He emphasized a poll that showed Americans would have preferred a smaller inaugural party (did the Washington Post even bother doing one of those this time around?).

He attacked “the costly security overkill” which “clearly plays to Bush’s political advantage by keeping terrorist threats at the top of people’s minds.”

He criticized the media for only reporting confirmed numbers, rather than using the speculative, uncomfirmed numbers that had been named in some places.
He puts “the real cost at closer to $70 million, instead of the media’s preferred $40 million.”

Flash forward to 2009 and Eric Boehlert is feeling the Change.

Rather than criticizing the huge cost and unprecedented security of the 2009 inauguration, Boehlert attacks the media for using inadequate numbers for the 2005 inauguration, putting Obama’s 2009 inauguration in a comparatively bad light.
After spending 2005 criticizing the media for not using the speculative, unconfirmed numbers cited in some places, Boehlert is suddenly aghast that the media is using speculative, unconfirmed (but entirely reasonable) numbers.
The “real cost” of Bush’s 2005 inaugural has gone from “closer to $70 million” (Boehlert, 2005) to “$157 million” (Boehlert, 2009).
Not a word about security “overkill”.

http://www.thenextright.com/jon-henke/the-cost-of-the-inauguration-a-cold-wind-blows

Spider lady says:

because of he is black who knows but NO ONE ever critized any other president for their foreign travel costs

No, they just questioned how much his motorcade was spending on gas. Stop acting like BO is the first president to be criticized because it just isn’t true. You want to see racism because you can’t defend why people really do have a problem with BO.

thezapper1960 said:
I don’t know what alternate universe that “the real royal king” lives in but our taxes went up $1100 in 2009…and btw: we earned less than 50 grand so don’t try to play the 250,000+ card on me.

YOU LIE !!!!!!!!

as one of your reps said

BlackWidow said:
It was Fox’s best buddy RUSH that was all over it. I don’t watch Fox so have no idea if the lied this.

Rush does not work for FOX.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Spider lady says: because of he is black who knows but NO ONE ever critized any other president for their foreign travel costs No, they just questioned how much his motorcade was spending on gas. Stop acting like BO is the first president to be criticized because it just isn’t true. You want to see racism because you can’t defend why people really do have a problem with BO.

You can talk about his policies all you want.

sarainitaly said:
do you stutter when you lie

Do you watch anything else but the Fox Lie channel?

sarainitaly said:
Rush does not work for FOX.

DUH I know that silly. I said their best bud!

sarainitaly said:
now THAT is a damn lie.

You again sound ignorant.You must be on their payroll.

sarainitaly you must have google coming out of your ass.

sarainitaly said:
now THAT is a damn lie.

Really, Tumbleweed. Beckerhead, O’Hannity, O’Kelly just to name a few of the liars.

sarainitaly said:
Rush does not work for FOX.

Hence: “FOX’s best buddy.” instead of “FOX employee.”

I always find it amusing when the racists start screaming racism.

It is amusing, King. That’s why we get so amused when you do it.

sarainitaly said:
Rush does not work for FOX.

Another ignorant comment from you.They must pay you alot.

ROCKSTEADY said:
Do you watch anything else but the Fox Lie channel?

She doesn’t even watch FOX “News”. She haunts a website, see what the prevailing opinion is by numbers, without regard to the quality of arguments, then casts he crocheted hat in the ring, so desperate is she for affirmation.

BlackWidow said:
sarainitaly you must have google coming out of your ass.

Which is odd because she is so poor at it. One discredited and disreputable source after the next or links so stale-dated they are toxic.

Obviously, Tumbleweed knows absolutely nothing about this discussion beyond what she is read by the usual FOX spewers.

thezapper1960 said:
I don’t know what alternate universe that “the real royal king” lives in but our taxes went up $1100 in 2009…and btw: we earned less than 50 grand so don’t try to play the 250,000+ card on me

Mine did too.

The King has never heard of any other president being criticized for anything. So it must be race.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Spider lady says: because of he is black who knows but NO ONE ever critized any other president for their foreign travel costs No, they just questioned how much his motorcade was spending on gas. Stop acting like BO is the first president to be criticized because it just isn’t true. You want to see racism because you can’t defend why people really do have a problem with BO.

I am not saying you personally are racist or anyone else in particular on here but you can’t convince that Obama being elected did NOT bring the racists out of the closet. The same way if Hillary was elected she would be hung for being a woman and as Mitt will be protrayed as evil because he is a mormon if he runs. These haters come out of the wood work.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
thezapper1960 said:I don’t know what alternate universe that “the real royal king” lives in but our taxes went up $1100 in 2009…and btw: we earned less than 50 grand so don’t try to play the 250,000+ card on me Mine did too.

Didn’t go up because of tax increase Michelle in Utah. You earned more money or you had fewer deductions. At any rate, personal antecdotes are of now value in an informed discussion. 85% of Americans paid less taxes in part due to the stimulus credits. Now, go run from the truth.

You’re wrong King, as usual.

The King never runs from the truth. Because he doesn’t know what it is.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
You’re wrong King, as usual.

And, you and your little todie Kumquat are lying as usal, Michelle-in-Utah.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2010-05-10-taxes_N.htm

http://mediamatters.org/print/research/201004150075

BlackWidow said:
I see Mediaite missed the story of Peggy Noonen ripping Palin a new one for comparing herself to RAYGUN. Now why is that???

BlackWidow … your brave, brave work as the unofficial MediaSPITE ombudswoman does NOT go UNNOTICED or UNAPPRECIATED!!1 You are TRULY making a difference by STANDING UP against these neoCON HACKS instead of reading a blog you actually like!!1 Don’t let these RIGHTISTS who actually get PAID to write a BLOG get away with their BIASED FOX PROPAGANDA!!1 You are BETTER than them, and don’t EVER forget it!!1 Now get ME MY ENTITLEMENT CHUBBY ™ !!!!!!!!!!!11111

Rep. Henry Waxman, D-California, sent a letter Tuesday to the General Accounting Office — the investigative arm of Congress — asking for a “a full accounting of the costs associated with the president’s trip.” Fleischer said he had no estimate on the cost of the carrier event.
http://articles.cnn.com/2003-05-06/politics/byrd.bush_1_aircraft-carrier-carrier-event-tailhook-landing?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS

George W. Bush’s ”Top Gun” landing on the deck of the carrier Abraham Lincoln will be remembered as one of the most audacious moments of presidential theater in American history. But it was only the latest example of how the Bush administration, going far beyond the foundations in stagecraft set by the Reagan White House, is using the powers of television and technology to promote a presidency like never before.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9803EFDC173EF935A25756C0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

How much did Bush visit cost?
It’s well-known that President Bush’s appearance in Stockton last week helped Rep. Richard Pombo, R-Tracy, raise $400,000 for his re-election bid. However, taxpayers also helped make the campaign stop possible.
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061011/NEWS01/610110324/1001

The World’s Most-Expensive BBQ
US President George W. Bush starts a two-day visit with German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Wednesday in her parliamentary district near the Baltic Sea. The two leaders will talk foreign policy and hope to bond during an expensive country barbecue.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,426329,00.html

Campaign 2004: Bush visit is a bargain for Nethercutt camp
Taxpayers foot much of bill for trip that may raise $1 million
http://www.seattlepi.com/national/178018_bush16.html

Yea….no one ever criticized or questioned Bush for his spending.

And how about Clinton?

And just how much is this latest foray estimated to cost the American taxpayer? ABC News, apparently relying on unnamed Pentagon sources, has reported a price tag: a cool $50 million — the “most expensive overseas trip ever taken by a president,” as they put it during the March 23 broadcast of World News Tonight. And because the newscast did not fully identify the costs, it is unclear if this estimate includes only military costs – or even only Air Force costs.

Meanwhile, Air Force Times also pegged the cost at $50 million [3/27/00], implying this figure reflects Air Force costs alone. The article also identifies the numbers and types of aircraft dedicated to the trip: 14 C-17 Globemaster IIIs; 12 C-5 Galaxys, 3 C-141 Starlifters; and 2 C-130 Hercules. In addition, 7 KC-10 Extenders and 39 KC-135 Stratotankers were to deploy. The return mission was to require the same types and numbers of assets with some exceptions, but to include an additional 10 Galaxys and 3 more Stratotankers.

ABC News’ John McWethy, while traveling with the President — who was accompanied by daughter Chelsea and his mother-in-law — on the recent trip to South Asia, reported that:

“Ninety percent of the costs [cited by the World News Tonight anchor at $50 million] are for airplanes, drawn from an Air Force that is already stressed meeting military and humanitarian commitments overseas. When a President travels, all the public ever sees is Air Force One, but consider this: Seventy-seven other Air Force planes are being used on this one trip, including 26 of the biggest transports, C-5s and C-17s” [Emphasis added].

The Marines also were called in to support this jaunt, as noted by the Washington Times on March 24:

“The U.S. military sent 10 CH-53 helicopters to India and Pakistan to support President Clinton’s ongoing road trip. The large helicopters flew from the Marine Corps base at Kanehoe Bay, Hawaii, to ferry Mr. Clinton, daughter Chelsea and other friends of Bill.

“The helos arrived via giant U.S. Air Force C-5 transport aircraft. In addition, the Marines dispatched about 100 troops for air crews and support.”

That was 10 years ago, prior to 9/11. Do you really think, considering the $50 million price tag, and the number of planes trains and automobiles on Clinton’s trip that it’s THAT hard to believe the (untrue) story about Obama and $200 Million?

And King, it will only be a few hours till it’s time to go into your ‘Ted’ persona.

BTW, that’s Gold, Karl111!!! Gold!!!111

ROCKSTEADY said:
Another ignorant comment from you.They must pay you alot.

Rush is an employee of FOX?

Kumquat’s are yummy!!

And save your Media Matters talking points. I put as much stock in them as I do Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

BlackWidow said:
It was Fox’s best buddy RUSH that was all over it. I don’t watch Fox so have no idea if the lied this.

you can’t support King’s lie that every *liar* at FOX pushed this story by throwing in Rush.

Rush doesn’t work at FOX, and the only person I know who discussed this at FOX was Hannity.

Prove otherwise.

http://articles.courant.com/2010-05-13/business/hc-hc-tax-burden-0513.artmay13_1_tax-collection-sales-taxes-income-taxes

sarainitaly said:
you can’t support King’s lie that every *liar* at FOX pushed this story by throwing in Rush. Rush doesn’t work at FOX, and the only person I know who discussed this at FOX was Hannity. Prove otherwise.

Would you please stop pretending you watch FOX “News”.

Notice, Hannity AND Beck. O’Van Karlsen and Il Douchey did as well, although not included here.

To say this figure — $200 million a day — has made the rounds in the blogosphere would be a huge understatement. It has been repeated by nearly every conservative pundit in the land: Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, Drudge. Always with a healthy dose of indignation.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/nov/04/michele-bachmann/rep-michele-bachmann-claims-obamas-trip-india-will/

(Previously cited. Tumbleweed too lazt to read it).

Let me tell all of you what real racism is. I grew up in the deep rural South. I have never been prejudiced a day in my life toward blacks, probably because my parents never expressed their views in front of me and black kids were my only playmates until I started school. I refused to participate in a large black vs. white fight after our high school was fully integrated. Fast forward to the present. Many whites don’t like me to this day because of my views and the high school incident. It’s easy to see the hatred toward me in the eyes of blacks who don’t know me because I’m white. Bottom line: I’m hated by many whites for not hating blacks, and hated by many blacks for being white. When you hear the word racism, isn’t predujice against blacks the first thing that comes to mind? It works both ways people. As long as Matthews and others on both sides fan the flames, it will never get any better for either side.

This $200 milliion figure came from India. Perhaps THEY are the racists.

Now, I’m off to watch the UTES/TCU game! Think happy thoughts for my UTES!!

thezapper1960 said:
I don’t know what alternate universe that “the real royal king” lives in but our taxes went up $1100 in 2009…and btw: we earned less than 50 grand so don’t try to play the 250,000+ card on me.

You might need a better accountant. A lot of people’s taxes went down. He (or she) may have missed some deductions or may have overlooked the tax cuts this year. If you did pay more in taxes this year, I don’t think you should blame Obama. King is actually right on this one. Now, taxes are probably going to increase next year, but they decreased this year. For your sake, you either made more last year, or you need a better accountant.

Add FOX Business to the lying FOX rabble, Tumbleweed.

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201011030048

OldGuy said:
Let me tell all of you what real racism is. I grew up in the deep rural South. I have never been prejudiced a day in my life toward blacks, probably because my parents never expressed their views in front of me and black kids were my only playmates until I started school. I refused to participate in a large black vs. white fight after our high school was fully integrated. Fast forward to the present. Many whites don’t like me to this day because of my views and the high school incident. It’s easy to see the hatred toward me in the eyes of blacks who don’t know me because I’m white. Bottom line: I’m hated by many whites for not hating blacks, and hated by many blacks for being white. When you hear the word racism, isn’t predujice against blacks the first thing that comes to mind? It works both ways people. As long as Matthews and others on both sides fan the flames, it will never get any better for either side.

I do commend you for your stand, but I do have to ask what you think of this. Racism occurs on both sides but does it occur for the same reason. Blacks don’t hate whites just to hate whites. The Civil Rights Movement occurred in the Sixties. It’s fairly young. And does 40 to 50 years undo the 400 years of oppression put upon the blacks. I’m not saying that it is right. Racism is 100% wrong, but I’m saying that there is a difference in the racism. It’s put into a historical context. It seems that we like to forget that, and see where the other side is coming from. I can’t remember who said it, I want to say it was Charles Kuralt or something, but his opinions on the Black Panther party was the hate built by hate. Black people don’t just walk outside and say, “Man, I hate white people.” No, there’s a fear and a hatred spurned by oppression and discrimination. Now, can the same thing be said about whites who hate blacks? See, I think that one of the dangers is that we just put it as all racism is the same, but there is a difference, and we need to attack it at that level to help end it on all sides.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
And save your Media Matters talking points. I put as much stock in them as I do Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

i know… the idiot rips on the (abundance) of sources we use, and then quotes MM and MSNBC verbatim… *eyeroll*

And for the record, I have to go ahead and say I’m sick of the criticisms toward Obama as the same as being racist. I do wish nobody would play the race card.

The Real Royal King said:
Notice, Hannity AND Beck. O’Van Karlsen and Il Douchey did as well, although not included here.

To say this figure — $200 million a day — has made the rounds in the blogosphere would be a huge understatement. It has been repeated by nearly every conservative pundit in the land: Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, Drudge. Always with a healthy dose of indignation.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/nov/04/michele-bachmann/rep-michele-bachmann-claims-obamas-trip-india-will/

(Previously cited. Tumbleweed too lazt to read it).

prove it. you said everyone at FOX covered this. prove it.
Beck did here, but it was about safety: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/glenn-beck-on-obama-india-trip/

“(Previously cited. Tumbleweed too lazt to read it” – I read it, where do you think I got the quote i posted here, idiot:
sarainitaly says:
November 6, 2010 at 2:38 pm

Perhaps you didn’t read it.

High school dropout Matthews should know about sophomoric idiocy—it’s the only stock this drooling moron has in trade. Walsh is on every nite now with this nasty-mouthed imbecile, and Media Mutters with the picture of Soros helping Nazis find Jews in Hungary during WWII should make all the self-hating Jews on Think Process and MMutters proud to work for him. He was an assistant SonderKommando for the Nazis, I’ve read somewhere, a sort of collaborator to keep the doomed victims of the Nazis unaware of what was coming.

Got off topic. Matthews’ head may the next on the chopping block. Let’s hope this guy is an early victim of the ComCast purge. Nobody regards India as “Third World,” so he and his nodding cretin peanut gallery are all too stupid to even speak about trade issues or why the jug-eared moron got out of Dodge a couple days after the slaughter.

The Real Royal King said:
She doesn’t even watch FOX “News”.

The Real Royal King said:
Would you please stop pretending you watch FOX “News”.

you are an idiot.

ROCKSTEADY said:
sarainitaly said:
Rush does not work for FOX.

Another ignorant comment from you.They must pay you alot.

pray tell, what is ignorant about my comment?
you know what IS ignorant? you.

*note: it’s a lot, not alot.

Chris Matthews sees an “ethnic aspect” to any criticism of Barack Obama.

sarainitaly said:
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Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
And save your Media Matters talking points. I put as much stock in them as I do Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
i know… the idiot rips on the (abundance) of sources we use, and then quotes MM and MSNBC verbatim… *eyeroll*

Which, of course, has the FOX “News” clips of the FOX “News” personalities lying. But, you both run as far and as fast from the truth as possible.

This is what happens here when liberal commenters can’t support their arguments (or even make an argument, for that matter):

The Real Royal King said:
That’s a damn lie

The Real Royal King said:
Nor can you. The affectation is only different.

The Real Royal King said:
I always find it amusing when the racists start screaming racism.

ROCKSTEADY said:
You again sound ignorant.You must be on their payroll.

ROCKSTEADY said:
sarainitaly you must have google coming out of your ass.

ROCKSTEADY said:
Another ignorant comment from you.They must pay you alot.

The Real Royal King said:
She doesn’t even watch FOX “News”. She haunts a website, see what the prevailing opinion is by numbers, without regard to the quality of arguments, then casts he crocheted hat in the ring, so desperate is she for affirmation.

Which is odd because she is so poor at it. One discredited and disreputable source after the next or links so stale-dated they are toxic.

Obviously, Tumbleweed knows absolutely nothing about this discussion beyond what she is read by the usual FOX spewers.

sarainitaly said:
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Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
And save your Media Matters talking points. I put as much stock in them as I do Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
i know… the idiot rips on the (abundance) of sources we use, and then quotes MM and MSNBC verbatim… *eyeroll*

By the way, my Twitty Duet, I specifically used the Politfact check from the St. Petersburgh newspaper so that your objection would be exposed for the diversion it is.

The Real Royal King said:
I always find it amusing when the racists start screaming racism.

You’re a joke. Changing your name. Changing your alias. Running away from your own idiotic comments. Changing identities to give thumbs up votes to your pathetic remarks that everyone else laughs at. And now you accuse everyone of racism. Look in the mirror (if you dare) — you’re the one who judges people by skin color and fixates on race. Grow up, Mr. Identity-confused, or find some adolescent forum to post your ravings.

sarainitaly said:
This is what happens here when liberal commenters can’t support their arguments (or even make an argument, for that matter):

Give it up, Tumbleweed. You lied. Again. And, you got caught, again. All of the documentation is here. And, now you lash out. Well, be happy. I’m done with you. I’m a hunter. Carion has never appealed to me.

Too bad Michelle-in-Utah didn’t invite you to the game. I guess the sister wives objected.

felixw said:
You’re a joke. Changing your name. Changing your alias. Running away from your own idiotic comments. Changing identities to give thumbs up votes to your pathetic remarks that everyone else laughs at. And now you accuse everyone of racism. Look in the mirror (if you dare) — you’re the one who judges people by skin color and fixates on race. Grow up, Mr. Identity-confused, or find some adolescent forum to post your ravings.

Enjoy projection much, Phelicia?

sarainitaly said:
This is what happens here when liberal commenters can’t support their arguments (or even make an argument, for that matter):

That’ll be the day, when RRK presents a reasonable argument about anything! He blathers on and on, and always at the level of an 8-year-old. And when he gets laughed off the stage under one name, he shows up here under a new alias. But because he continues with the juvenile blathering, the “thumbs down” follow him no matter what identity he assumes.

The Real Royal King said:
Enjoy projection much, Phelicia?

RRK, have you checked out the votes on your comments lately? You’re doing even worse than the Democrats last Tuesday. In fact, the only people who like your comments are your other aliases. Have you figure out yet what it means when hundreds of people tell you every day that your comments are infantile?

Now, back to the trip itself. All the lies about cost aside, it got off to a great start.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/11/06/india.obama.jobs/index.html?hpt=T1

Big trade deal.

Solidifying the terror fight alliance.

The First Lady was elegant and charming.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/06/michelle-obama-india_n_779883.html#s176526

Particularly see Picture #7.

felixw said:
RRK, have you checked out the votes on your comments lately? You’re doing even worse than the Democrats last Tuesday. In fact, the only people who like your comments are your other aliases. Have you figure out yet what it means when hundreds of people tell you every day that your comments are infantile?

Isn’t it odd that I manipulate the votes but score so badly. What cunning explanation do you have for that?

The Real Royal King said:
Which, of course, has the FOX “News” clips of the FOX “News” personalities lying. But, you both run as far and as fast from the truth as possible.

which is what newsbuster clips have – video, but you always rip the person apart who links to them. MM always takes clips out of context and smears people. they are nutbags. see the link above on their coverage of Bush vs. Obama inaugurations, for just one example. you reference them all the time. they are a joke. you are a joke.

you presented a clip from FOX business – not FNC. I am still waiting for you to prove your lie that all the FOX *liars* repeated the India story.

As for the Fox business – they debated it. They presented both sides.

However, I am quite suspicious considering Kristen Powers never says in the video that the WH denied the story – makes me think this aired before the Press Briefing. I wouldn’t be surprised if MM left that info out. If this aired after the WH presser, they should have said Gibbs said it wasn’t true. But not even Kristen says it, so it seems this aired prior to that.

and until they tell us how much it costs, based on that story from Clinton’s India trip, I don’t think the costs were probably that inflated. The WH said the costs were inflated, however they didn’t debunk the number of people going, the actual ballpark costs, etc.

Kristen also tells said she said she doesn’t recall Bush ever getting criticized for costs – and as I clearly pointed out, that’s not true.

Which, gets me back to the meaning of this post – that Matthews said the criticism is racist – however, as I pointed out, Clinton and Bush were criticized as well. So, it’s a big fail for Matthews, his MM and Salon dorks, and TRRk.

The Real Royal King said:
Isn’t it odd that I manipulate the votes but score so badly. What cunning explanation do you have for that?

You score badly because you are the only one voting for your comments, and EVERYONE ELSE already knows you are an idiot. Sad to say, people probably don’t even read your comments before voting them down. But what sensible person would waste their time reading this drivel? After seeing you tired routine a few times, no one wants any more. Well, accept Iris and Ted, etc.

Arthur (Not a Political Comic) said:
I do commend you for your stand, but I do have to ask what you think of this. Racism occurs on both sides but does it occur for the same reason. Blacks don’t hate whites just to hate whites. The Civil Rights Movement occurred in the Sixties. It’s fairly young. And does 40 to 50 years undo the 400 years of oppression put upon the blacks. I’m not saying that it is right. Racism is 100% wrong, but I’m saying that there is a difference in the racism. It’s put into a historical context. It seems that we like to forget that, and see where the other side is coming from. I can’t remember who said it, I want to say it was Charles Kuralt or something, but his opinions on the Black Panther party was the hate built by hate. Black people don’t just walk outside and say, “Man, I hate white people.” No, there’s a fear and a hatred spurned by oppression and discrimination. Now, can the same thing be said about whites who hate blacks? See, I think that one of the dangers is that we just put it as all racism is the same, but there is a difference, and we need to attack it at that level to help end it on all sides.

I can understand the black hate and I think you’re correct. Unfortunately I have never been able to get a grip on the hate from my race. I do believe that it’s a generational problem on both sides. I don’t think anyone is born with a natural hatred based on skin color. It has been passed down openly to many whites for several hundred years and I believe the same to be true of blacks. It has only become openly evident among blacks in the last 40 years or so as the fear of reprisal has diminished. Regardless of how long and why hatred has existed on both sides, if we could raise a couple of generations of children, black and white, without filling their heads with all this crap, we could end it. Ok people, don’t jump me over this, It’s all just the way I see things.

Oh, yea… the WH briefing was on Nov. 4th.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/robet-gibbs-pressed-to-defend-reported-cost-of-president-obamas-trip-to-india/

Bolling’s show was on the 3rd.

felixw said:
It’s true, there are still some pathetic people who still judge every news story on the basis of skin color. Namely, the hosts at MSNBC. I never hear Fox hosts judge anyone or anything on the basis of skin color, but this comes up as an issue every day at MSNBC.

it comes up because it is true. A large part of the opposition to Obama is based on race. The Birthers are all about race. A large part of the Tea Party Obama hate is about hate. This isobvious.

felixw said:
That’ll be the day, when RRK presents a reasonable argument about anything! He blathers on and on, and always at the level of an 8-year-old. And when he gets laughed off the stage under one name, he shows up here under a new alias. But because he continues with the juvenile blathering, the “thumbs down” follow him no matter what identity he assumes.

he’s a horses ass.

if he is posting under several names, they should ban him.

well, it looks like my work here is done.

armwood said:
it comes up because it is true. A large part of the opposition to Obama is based on race. The Birthers are all about race. A large part of the Tea Party Obama hate is about hate. This isobvious.

Bogus. The same people who criticize Obama were also complaining about Bill Clinton when he was President, and none of them complained about Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell, etc. Whether the political figure is black or white or purple or green, Republicans tend to support people aligned with their worldview and Democrats do the same.

Just think through your “explanation” for a moment. In January of 2008, Obama’s approval rating was in the high 70s. More recently, it has been in the low 40s. Thus, according to your logic, 25% of the electorate became racists during an 18-month period. That kind of explanation makes no sense whatsoever. The truth is much simpler: people gave Obama the benefit of the doubt, and his policies have failed. To pretend otherwise is to remain in deep, deep denial.

So armwood, when someone has a disagreement with Obama, how are you discerning which ones are actual policy disagreements, and which ones are racist?

felixw said:
You score badly because you are the only one voting for your comments, and EVERYONE ELSE already knows you are an idiot. Sad to say, people probably don’t even read your comments before voting them down. But what sensible person would waste their time reading this drivel? After seeing you tired routine a few times, no one wants any more. Well, accept Iris and Ted, etc.

But, you’re not making sense, Phelicia.

If I have so many personae, wouldn’t we be voting for me constantly?

As Christine O’Donnell said, “I am you.” And you. And you. And you. And you. Apparently.

writer said:
So armwood, when someone has a disagreement with Obama, how are you discerning which ones are actual policy disagreements, and which ones are racist?

A good question. And one, of course, for which the Left has no answer whatsoever.

So if armwood were to disagree with something said by Juan Williams or Clarence Thomas, he’s not really disagreeing. He’s just being a racist.

The Real Royal King said:
But, you’re not making sense, Phelicia.

If I have so many personae, wouldn’t we be voting for me constantly?

As Christine O’Donnell said, “I am you.” And you. And you. And you. And you. Apparently.

Do you even think through comments before posting them? Even you can answer your own question. Why waste my time? But here I will explain it to you. You have a number of personae, but not enough to counter everyone else coming to this site. That’s why you get so many thumbs down.

Face it, after posting so many stupid comments here, you’ve become a joke, no matter what alias you adopt. You change to a new identity, and it takes people a very short while to figure out that your spouting off the same infantile comments — so they again start voting thumbs down. Don’t tell me you haven’t figured THAT out? Man, you are seriously hurtin’ for common sense.

felixw said:
Do you even think through comments before posting them? Even you can answer your own question. Why waste my time? But here I will explain it to you. You have a number of personae, but not enough to counter everyone else coming to this site. That’s why you get so many thumbs down. Face it, after posting so many stupid comments here, you’ve become a joke, no matter what alias you adopt. You change to a new identity, and it takes people a very short while to figure out that your spouting off the same infantile comments — so they again start voting thumbs down. Don’t tell me you haven’t figured THAT out? Man, you are seriously hurtin’ for common sense.

You’re still not making sense. If I had all of these personae, I’d have at least a dozen Thumb’s Up’s wouldn’t it?

And, I can’t tell you how crushed I am I don’t.

Well said, Felix! “The Real Royal King” is one of the more dismal aspects of reading comments on this site.

armwood said:
it comes up because it is true. A large part of the opposition to Obama is based on race. The Birthers are all about race. A large part of the Tea Party Obama hate is about hate. This isobvious.

I’m off for Night #2 of the Jazz Festival, Armwood. I’ll toast you with some Souhtern Comfort on the rocks at intermission. I leave Phelicia in your able hands.

I sure hope I make it in time with all of this personae I have to sign off.

im ted . im not black , but my granny iris has a jonny mathis record she plays when one of my uncles is visiting , i can heer it thrugh the wal . i hav a lot of uncles .

Ted will be by shortly.

No lie against a Black president is too big not to be believed by the far Right.

The other Ted. The impolite one.

armwode is one of my uncles !

No white president has ever been criticized.

writer said:
So armwood, when someone has a disagreement with Obama, how are you discerning which ones are actual policy disagreements, and which ones are racist?

lol…that’s simple.
When the lie is so totally un-fucking-believable, like Barack isn’t a citizen or has a 34 warship escort, then that is inspired by irrational hate….racism most likely.

Of course some people are going to hate Obama just for the sake of hating him. But to say that any disagreement with him whatsoever must be due to racism is ridiculous.

writer said:
But to say that any disagreement with him whatsoever must be due to racism is ridiculous.

Who is saying that?
Maybe some people.

Not me.

Didn’t say you did. Just as most on the right aren’t saying that Obama isn’t a citizen.

Well, this thread is about Matthews and I don’t think he is saying that either. I think he is saying that the Big Lies have something a little more going on there than normal.

I agree. I think some White people have a deep seated distrust of Obama because he is Black and they assume he is not on “their side” so they want to destroy him for that. And no lie is too big not to be believed about him.

IOW, Chris doesn’t bring u race every time there is a policy dispute, or we would have one of these threads every day.
He only brings it up about the really over-the-top stuff that transcends politics, like bringing guns to speeches and not being a citizen and an India visit that cost more than the moon landing.

I reckon I agree with him.

Of course, when the camera panned back, that guy carrying the gun was black. Oops.

writer said:
Of course, when the camera panned back, that guy carrying the gun was black. Oops.

I remember. There were White guys too. One of them was a guest on Matthews show.

There is no doubt there are racist people in this country, and some of them hate Obama cuz he is Black.
No doubt.
The only question is how many and which members of the media are catering to them.

Don’t forget, Glenn Beck said exactly what I’m talking about. He believed Obama had a hatred for White Culture, even though he has since admitted he was wrong and regretted saying it.
Many people have the same irrational belief and do not regret it.

Saying there aren’t any white racists would be catering to the white racists. Saying there aren’t any black racists is catering to the black ones.

sarainitaly said:
This is what happens here when liberal commenters can’t support their arguments (or even make an argument, for that matter):

Not true. I just don’t care to argue with ignorant spewing people.There are to many around latley.Just try watching something other than fox or reading the Drudge sometime.

writer said:
Saying there aren’t any black racists is catering to the black ones.

Of course there are Black racists. But they never had to hate their President for being White because that’s all they knew. It was the norm. They had no power so they didn’t flip out when they lost it.

It’s hard to be the King and get dethroned. That’s where a lot of the hate is coming from imo, and yes, that is “ethnically” based.

Saying there are some white racists, sure there are. Saying any disagreement with Obama is racist, ala Olbermann or Janeane Garofalo, just pisses people off.

writer said:
Saying there are some white racists, sure there are. Saying any disagreement with Obama is racist, ala Olbermann or Janeane Garofalo, just pisses people off.

I wont argue with that, they are bombthrowers and I condemn them. Of course everything against Obama isn’t racist. But that doesn’t mean we should stick are heads the sand and pretend that some things aren’t when we live in a country with a long history of racism.

I believe there is more racism than you will allow yourself to believe, that is why all those racist emails keep surfacing from politicians on the Right. Those are just the ones that got caught. I wonder how many are never found out?

If politicians on the right are passing racist mail, they should be called out on it. And on the other side, I still have trouble believing that Obama listened to a racist pastor for twenty years and had no idea of his racial views.

Picture Mitt Romney saying what Obama says to any group .

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/11/the_obama_deck.html

Big Eddie said:
Picture Mitt Romney saying what Obama says to any group .

You (and your link) just prove my point. Obama gets a “pass” because he’s Black.
Your thinking IS ethnically based

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
You (and your link) just prove my point. Obama gets a “pass” because he’s Black.Your thinking IS ethnically based

Hey ! Eddie don’t think !

BTW writer, out of all the users here you bring up Obama’s race more than everyone else. Even when it has nothing to do with the subject. You often use it as an insult (half-Black lol).

I don’t think you are the best person to defend against ethnically-based thinking. It is all you do.

BFD, it’s only because I like pointing out the left’s hypocrisy. Let’s say white presidential candidate had attended one of those Aryan Nations churches out in Idaho, then claimed he had no idea of the pastor’s racial views. Think you’d be so quick to say “Yeah, I can believe that.”

writer said:
BFD, it’s only because I like pointing out the left’s hypocrisy. Let’s say white presidential candidate had attended one of those Aryan Nations churches out in Idaho, then claimed he had no idea of the pastor’s racial views. Think you’d be so quick to say “Yeah, I can believe that.”

You see, more ethnically based thinking. It’s all you do, compare Whites to Blacks. Just like Big Eddie.

Those Blacks sure do make you guys mad with all their special treatments.

BFD, aren’t you also ethnically thinking? If I was pointing out racism coming from a white person, would you be so up in arms, bending over backwards to defend him? Nope. You’d be yelling ‘Racism!” But point out racism coming from a black person such as Rev. Wright, and you get real touchy and don’t want to talk about it. Instead, you say that anyone who ever points out instances of black racism must be the racist.

Chrissy, Chrissy, Chrissy….here is a hint…”The Thrill Is Gone” so get over it already! Congresswoman Michele Bachmann was right about you so get over yourself. People don’t like you goofy doofy dunderheads on msnbc. Hopefully Comcast is going to correct that for the viewing public!

writer said:
But point out racism coming from a black person such as Rev. Wright

Not touchy. Wright was a douche. Obama said he never heard the worst of his rants and no one proved otherwise. He denounced him. He got elected. End of story. Stop using it as a mantra.

It is your ethnically based thinking that wont let it go after many years, not mine.
All you are trying to do is prove HE is the racist to justify your ethnically based thinking.

BTW, Chris nevver said racism this time, only ethnically based thinking. The threshold is much lower and I believe he is right.
How many times was Bush compared to a hypothetical Black president?
When Bush got a “pass” for something, were people saying if he was Black he would have been crucified.
Of course not. Never came up. His race was accepted and not given a second thought.
Why is it ALWAYS coming up now? (of course you will blame Obama and probably the Beer Summit lol)

Okay, BFD. Prove that the criticism about Obama’s trip is ethnically based. Every time Bush took any type of trip the left would howl. This ethnic crap is what all you far lefties throw out there anytime there’s any criticism of Obama. Yet you say it’s the right that always thinking ‘ethnically’. You dwell on it. Charges of racism or ‘ethnic thinking’ are your stock in trade.

And I’m not talking about the press. The press is only trying to make sense about why so many people on the Right (like you2 guys) are constantly comparing Obama to “If he were White”.

TBH I cant make sense of it. The Left never complained about Bush being White.(except Kanye lol)

writer said:
Prove that the criticism about Obama’s trip is ethnically based.

You know I cant prove that. The only proof I have for my OPINION is that no one gave Bush a hard time for his Whiteness like you Righty bloggers give Barack for his Blackness.
We Lefties gave Bush a lot of grief, but not for his race.

TristramShandy says:
November 6, 2010 at 5:04 pm TristramShandy(Quote)
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Well said, Felix! “The Real Royal King” is one of the more dismal aspects of reading comments on this site.

I would agree, but only as an ongoing irritant, like a smelly sock in the room. Others are far worse. Westgate, swearing and yelling at everyone and just being a true egomaniac is enough for me. I mean, brutal, Armwood (Hey you didn’t answer the question about Obama’s 70% to 40% approval rating drop jerk) is a race card playing fool.

Me personally, I love the Lantern of Truth. Every post is a blast. im ted…

Funny. The left is always bringing up that Obama is being treated differently because he’s black, yet you don’t want any ‘if he were white’ comparisons. And while you’re certainly never shy about pointing out white racism as often as you can, anyone who ever dares to mention black racism is ‘thinking ethnically’ and being unfair.

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Big_F-ing_Deal said:
When the lie is so totally un-fucking-believable, like Barack isn’t a citizen or has a 34 warship escort, then that is inspired by irrational hate….racism most likely.

Did you see this stuff on Clinton’s travels?

And just how much is this latest foray estimated to cost the American taxpayer? ABC News, apparently relying on unnamed Pentagon sources, has reported a price tag: a cool $50 million — the “most expensive overseas trip ever taken by a president,” as they put it during the March 23 broadcast of World News Tonight. And because the newscast did not fully identify the costs, it is unclear if this estimate includes only military costs – or even only Air Force costs.

Meanwhile, Air Force Times also pegged the cost at $50 million [3/27/00], implying this figure reflects Air Force costs alone. The article also identifies the numbers and types of aircraft dedicated to the trip: 14 C-17 Globemaster IIIs; 12 C-5 Galaxys, 3 C-141 Starlifters; and 2 C-130 Hercules. In addition, 7 KC-10 Extenders and 39 KC-135 Stratotankers were to deploy. The return mission was to require the same types and numbers of assets with some exceptions, but to include an additional 10 Galaxys and 3 more Stratotankers.

ABC News’ John McWethy, while traveling with the President — who was accompanied by daughter Chelsea and his mother-in-law — on the recent trip to South Asia, reported that:

“Ninety percent of the costs [cited by the World News Tonight anchor at $50 million] are for airplanes, drawn from an Air Force that is already stressed meeting military and humanitarian commitments overseas. When a President travels, all the public ever sees is Air Force One, but consider this:

Seventy-seven other Air Force planes are being used on this one trip, including 26 of the biggest transports, C-5s and C-17s”

The Marines also were called in to support this jaunt, as noted by the Washington Times on March 24:

“The U.S. military sent 10 CH-53 helicopters to India and Pakistan to support President Clinton’s ongoing road trip. The large helicopters flew from the Marine Corps base at Kanehoe Bay, Hawaii, to ferry Mr. Clinton, daughter Chelsea and other friends of Bill.

“The helos arrived via giant U.S. Air Force C-5 transport aircraft. In addition, the Marines dispatched about 100 troops for air crews and support.”

“Military sources say that represents more than one-third of the Air Force’s entire inventory of these planes that are ready to fly on any given day.”

When the President took trips in 1998 to Chile, China, and Africa, the tab came to $72 million. Over sixty million came from the defense budget.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/907935/posts
http://rpc.senate.gov/releases/1999/eb1092199.htm

These were from 10-12 years ago, before 9/11 and before the even larger and more expensive SS detail for Obama. Taking all that in, do you really find the India/Obama story that far fetched? Did Gibbs say how many planes and ships are going? How many people?

34 warships sure sounds like a lot, but so does 77 planes, 10 helicopters and 100 military members that accompanied Clinton.

At the request of RPC Chairman Craig and Senators Sessions and Thomas, the General Accounting Office (GAO) examined just three of Clinton’s many trips, to Chile, China, and Africa in 1998, and found:

Chile: $10.5 million cost; 592 people traveled, 109 from White House;

China: $18.8 million cost; 510 people traveled, 123 from White House; and

Africa (6 countries): $42.8 million cost; 1,300 people traveled, 205 from White House.

No one thinks Obama is capable of topping Bill?

God i am getting tired of the paid RNC trolls on this website.

Once again Liberals OVER USE the race card.

It appears the only people who keep seeing Obama as a black man are Liberals, since they always see any critique of his policies or actions as racial. They apparently always see Obama AS A BLACK MAN first and that proves that they are the racists.

Latin2 said:
Once again Liberals OVER USE the race card.

kind of like how the republican teaparty over use the fear card, the vanity card, the immigration card, the muslim card, the liberal card,the taxbreak card…….man can we borrow your strategest…apparently we have only one mo fuckin card

The Real Royal King said:
You’re still not making sense. If I had all of these personae, I’d have at least a dozen Thumb’s Up’s wouldn’t it?

And, I can’t tell you how crushed I am I don’t.

Check out the votes of impartial onlookers if you want to find out who is making sense. You lose today. Just as you lost yesterday. And the day before that. And the day before that. And the day before that….ad infinitum.

And just look at your own argument. You are saying that you get even fewer votes than even my generous assessment of your talents might warrant. Do you understand what you are admitting? You’re digging yourself into an even deeper whole (if that can be believed) than where you started. Truly, you continually shoot yourself in the foot.

Latin2 said:
It appears the only people who keep seeing Obama as a black man are Liberals, since they always see any critique of his policies or actions as racial. They apparently always see Obama AS A BLACK MAN first and that proves that they are the racists.

ha ha ha ha good luck with that…ha ha ha ha

listen here scooter,…you cant play the victim card in a battle of liberal judeo with an actual liberal…ha ha we taught you everything you know,.,.you guys just found sal alynski like 3 weeks ago.,,you got some catchin up to do slugger

“Check out the votes of impartial onlookers if you want to find out who is making sense.”

How fuckin pathetic is that….are you still pist off you didnt get asked out to the prom felix?

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shootfromthehip said:
God i am getting tired of the paid RNC trolls on this website.

Yea it gets old fast. I have been going into my “other” personility lately and need a rest from here.

Would you like some Cheese to go with that?

BlackWidow said:
shootfromthehip said:
God i am getting tired of the paid RNC trolls on this website.

Yea it gets old fast. I have been going into my “other” personility lately and need a rest from here.

who are the paid trolls? and where do you sign up to get paid?

Here is some old video of Matthews interviewing Glenn Beck…notice that Beck NEVER CHANGED, but Matthews did

“…Then there’s this amazing find — video of Chris in 2005 praising…Glenn Beck:

The interview took place before MSNBC changed its format from News to Progressive Propaganda and before Glenn Beck added a TV show to his radio duties. That what makes the video so interesting. Matthews gushes over Glenn Beck during the interview, yes that’s the same Chris Matthews who has nothing but vitriol for Beck now. Matthews opinions were left wing but they seemed more moderate than they are today, possibly because he had to adapt to the progressive format.

As for Glenn Beck, the interview could have been given today. Headline News and Fox have not made him change his opinions the way MSNBC may have with Matthews. The discussion covers his mistrust of Big Government, his warning about both political parties caring only about the status quo, and the failings of the mainstream media:…”

The article:
http://pajamasmedia.com/eddriscoll/2010/11/06/strange-days-at-msnbc/

A direct link to the video…it seems Chris had the tingles for Glenn..I watched the entire 10 minute video…it was awesome…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LINOa0CXQ1M&feature=player_embedded

On a personal note. At one time I watched Chris and though he was great. It was, as Ed says, before his corruption from the MSNBC format change. Every once in a while the old Chris peeks through. The one who could actually objectively analyze a situation. Using a Star Wars reference, I believe there is still good in him. I hope he finds it…

In the video I posted Chris Matthews GUSHES OVER Beck, but if you listen to Beck HE IS THE SAME as he is today.

hmmmm….Matthews had a tingle for Glenn Beck.

BLACK WIDOW< Please stay in your other personna, as long as it doesnt involve being capable of clear thought. Or any type of rational action on your part.

BlackWidow said:
Actually do you remember idiot BUSH dancing in Africa and was any one complaining how much it cost to send him there for dancing lessons. I am sick and tired of all of your stupid right wing crap,.

I could be wrong, but I think this is what you’re thinking of?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvxKZRf8k2k

This was at the White House, not in Africa.

But I do agree with your thesis, just may be off on one fact.

Latin2 said:
notice that Beck NEVER CHANGED, but Matthews did

ha ha look up becks response to the tarp bailout at end of bush presidency and the 600 billion dollar bail that just happened last week, coincidentally on the same day rethugs gain some control…..man you teabaggers need help

nrgetick said:
ha ha look up becks response to the tarp bailout at end of bush presidency and the 600 billion dollar bail that just happened last week, coincidentally on the same day rethugs gain some control…..man you teabaggers need help

The teabaggers tea bagged you Liberals on Nov. 3rd…LOL

Remember tea baggers are the givers and the tea bagged are the receivers…LOL

Tea bagged = Liberals.

Apparently you Liberals got a mouth full of balls the last election…LOL

sarainitaly said:
prove it. you said everyone at FOX covered this. prove it.Beck did here, but it was about safety: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/glenn-beck-on-obama-india-trip/ “(Previously cited. Tumbleweed too lazt to read it” – I read it, where do you think I got the quote i posted here, idiot:sarainitaly says:November 6, 2010 at 2:38 pm Perhaps you didn’t read it.

Yeah, all of a sudden Beck is SO concerned about his SAFETY.

Bids says:
November 6, 2010 at 11:19 pm Bids(Quote)
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sarainitaly said:
prove it. you said everyone at FOX covered this. prove it.Beck did here, but it was about safety: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/glenn-beck-on-obama-india-trip/ “(Previously cited. Tumbleweed too lazt to read it” – I read it, where do you think I got the quote i posted here, idiot:sarainitaly says:November 6, 2010 at 2:38 pm Perhaps you didn’t read it.

Yeah, all of a sudden Beck is SO concerned about his SAFETY.

You obviously do not listen or watch Beck, or you would know since day 1 of Obama being in office he has asked for prayers of safety for Obama, his family, and the secret service to keep the pres safe… Keep up jr..

“There is no doubt there are racist people in this country, and some of them hate Obama cuz he is Black.
No doubt.”

And some of the ones who hate Obama because he is black are black themselves and hate how the first black POTUS is fucking up so damn bad…!!!

Do we really want to compare President Bush’s trip to Africa in 2008? NOPE.

Mangan … please lie to us some more …. @zz

ROCKSTEADY says:
November 6, 2010 at 5:43 pm
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sarainitaly said:
This is what happens here when liberal commenters can’t support their arguments (or even make an argument, for that matter):

Not true. I just don’t care to argue with ignorant spewing people.There are to many around latley.Just try watching something other than fox or reading the Drudge sometime.

It’s a shame when facts get in the way, isn’t it Rocksteady? Makes it hard to make an argument, it must be much easier for you to just call people ignorant. I don’t think there is one FOX or Drudge link above, from me…

Bids said:
Yeah, all of a sudden Beck is SO concerned about his SAFETY.

Beck speaks out all the time against violence. You obviously don’t watch him, and just cling to the Media Matters version of him.

BlackWidow said:
Actually do you remember idiot BUSH dancing in Africa and was any one complaining how much it cost to send him there for dancing lessons. I am sick and tired of all of your stupid right wing crap,.

Bush’s Entourage of 700: What’s It Costing?
Talk Left
By Jeralyn, Section Other Politics
Posted on Tue Nov 18, 2003 at 11:16:13 PM EST

Why on earth does President Bush need an entourage of 700 for his four day jaunt to England? That’s ridiculous. What’s even more galling is we, the American taxpayers, are footing the bill.

Mr Bush, his wife, Laura, and a 700-strong entourage worthy of a travelling medieval monarch, flew into Heathrow airport slightly late, at about 7.30pm. The couple were greeted by the Prince of Wales, then whisked to the palace by US military helicopter.

With up to 100,000 anti-war protesters planning to march through the heart of Whitehall tomorrow – and the cost of 5,123 police officers protecting the president likely to top £10m – Downing Street maintained a stiff upper lip in the face of predictions that the four-day visit could prove a major public relations disaster.

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2003/11/19/832/96440

Yea…. no criticism at all for Bush.

Olbermann Frets over Bush’s Vacation, Compares Bush to Neville Chamberlain

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/node/6832#ixzz14b43SCNg

“idiot high school stuff.” – there Chris goes again, projecting.

The idiot high school antics on MSNBC have made the network nearly unwatchable.

CNN has an opportunity to retake second place, will they grab it, and move to the center from the left? Let’s all hope so.

The Leftist media got ‘Their Guy’ into the White House through obfuscation and pure ‘editorializing’ from their ‘News’ divisions, and now it’s payback time. None of these Leftist Media Hacks are happy…and increasingly, several of them are SO mad that they are getting fired for their anger. The angrier Matthews, Maddow, Schultz, and Olbermann get…the happier I am. Because it tells me (A) that things are a disaster and (B) that they realize they’re complicit in the whole mess. And I suppose (C), that they know we know.

Chris Mathews schedule double sessions at some tanning booth. That way he won’t feel like a guillty pasty white idiot.

Oops! can’t do much about the idiot part.

The Real Royal King said:
I always find it amusing when the racists start screaming racism.

Well then, stop creaming.

Thank God MSNBC’s slogan is not “Fair and Balance”. That would make Chris Matthews a hypocrite having a panel composed of a person from Salon and Media Matters.

MSNBC could be rest assured they will never be like Fox News.

So, we’re TOLD that the $200 Million per day cost is “wildly inflated” (Anderson Cooper laments there was “no follow-up reporting” to get the “facts” straight).

So WHAT IS the expected COST?

I’m sorry, but I don’t buy any assertion (by White House spokesholes) that telling us THE TRUTH would, somehow, “compromise security”).

LIkewise, we’re told that the reported 3,000 “guests” in incorrect. FINE – WHAT IS the number of people going with the President (again, I don’t want to know how many Secret Service versus “guests”), but knowing the number of people in his Entourage is NOT a matter of “National Security”.

Speaking of National Security… WHAT is the PURPOSE of his trip to India? Yet another “fact” that seems to evade detection. Just WEEKS after Michelle Obama’s LAVISH trip to Spain (with 30 “close friends”) – and exactly HOW MUCH did THAT trip cost the tax payers? – and now Barack has an URGENT NEED to take a trip to India? Honestly – WHY?

Is there some MAJOR problem brewing in India that precludes our Secretary of State from addressing the issue (whatever it allegedly is)? Is Hillary THAT ineffective (that we, the taxpayers, must absorb the cost of flying the President and his Entourage, Secret Service, Armored Limo(s), Cargo Planes, etc., etc., etc. to India.

Hell, President Bush used to get such grief about HIS vacations to HIS RANCH in Crawford, Texas – and NOW we’re told we have NO REASON to even QUESTION the cost or to ask for justification for Obama international tripS (plural).

Bush was ALSO criticized for his “lack of compassion” by virtue of HIS playing golf, while our service men and women were in harms way in Iraq and Afghanistan. Forgive me Anderson Cooper (for not having “fact checked” the reports), but I believe Barack Obama has ALREADY played MORE GOLF (in his first two years in office) than George E. Bush did in his ENTIRE 8 YEARS. AND, last time I checked, we STILL have men and women “in harms way” in Iraq and Afghanistan (AND Gitmo is STILL OPEN for business).

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Matthews must have been raised among the worst racists in the country. He sees one under every rock, in the most subtle ways. Chris, how about the hue and cry when Clinton flew from DC to LA to get a haircut on the runway? Everyone complained plenty. And when Bush always seemed to be wielding a chainsaw instead of being at work in the oval office. I’m sure you remember bashing him about that. Obama has to face the music like the rest. There is nothing sinister afoot.

In Mr.Matthews mind (or lack of) $3,600,000 per day is so much better than $200 million? Of course, knowing that the $200 million number was bogus from the get-go, running the $3,600,000 per day number passed us to make it sound like a bargain is really demeaning. Ethnic aspect makes him unworthy to travel? No, it not the ethnic aspect, it’s his general-ineptness as president that makes spending that absurd amount of money on anything except removing him from office, palatable!

Does anyone recall the tune “Sentimental Journey?”

He’s certainly showing us how to have a good time…at our expense.

Chances are excellent that Barry’s birth father was Caucasian and his birth mother predominantly Polynesian with perhaps Portagee overtones.

Of course, we’re all from Africa, birthplace of the human race, if we go back 100,00 years.

Is there any particular race in Barry’s recent lineage that is racially defamed by criticism of his typically profligate waste of taxpayer money in his Indian circus?

The fact that the trip is so broadly questioned is indeed evidence that BO is disliked by a large number of people, especially on the right but increasingly even among those who supported his election. Notice the results of the last election?

The thought that his trip seems to require more than 2x the number of people Bill Clinton needed to go to Africa (1300 people vs. the unrepudiated claim of 3000), coupled with the obvious cronyism of this administration, further “excite” the situation.

But dislike of a person who happens to be black does not have to be due to racism. Many find Obama’s policies and inner circle to be the antithesis of what they believe, and there is a fear that his “successes” come at the expense of their preferences.

For Matthews to cry racism makes him either stupid, mendacious, or more likely both.