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Chris Matthews: The Appeal Of Palin, Bachmann To Republicans Is They ‘Don’t Know Anything’

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Chris Matthews continued to be impressed with President Obama’s national security efforts and couldn’t understand why in some polls Republicans are reluctant to give Obama credit for Osama bin Laden’s death. Switching gears to look at the field of potential challengers to Obama in 2012, he wondered if Republicans were now going to be in favor of supporting somebody “as smart as Obama.”

Matthews shared his vision of what is going through the minds of Republican primary voters:

“They’re looking at people like Palin and Bachmann – people they don’t think are as smart as they are. Do you think they’ll actually pick someone – an average person says ‘I don’t think they’re smart as I am, but I want them to be President.’ Because that seems to be their appeal: ‘I don’t know anything, I don’t read anything. Make me your President.’”

That Matthews is not a fan of Sarah Palin or Michele Bachmann is no surprise. Yet it would also seem like a smart idea if Matthews really wanted to know what the true appeal of Palin or Bachmann is to Republican primary voters, then maybe his question should instead be posed to a Republican guest?

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  • “Real” American

    Yup, they like ‘em dumb so they can ‘train ‘em up right!”

    They should be real happy with those two.

    Chris really should stop stating the obvious.

  • BeckFinallyDemoted

    Ummm…the sad fact is that Palin and Bachmann ARE smarter than the average teagagger.

    _______________________________________________________________
    CAUTION: BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THESE EX-BIRTHERS, THEY ARE ARMED AND IGNORANT…

    Dem4Ever, The Lantern of Truth, juan, Arkansas Steve, murf, Jaurez
    WCinWI, Barack Must Go, NOBAMA, Colorado_Conservative, gordonbloyershow
    TeaPartyPatriot, notsofast, Severian, Dronetek, TfT, mitchflorida, skoorbekim
    mdanielson, Harry Flashman, OxyCon and NORBIT

  • Upper Plateau

    Chris……..need attention much? Night after night you look more disheavled. Drink less and get more sleep. And please, when doing a interview with a conservative get someone else other than David Brooks. Oh…thats right, I said conservative journalist. My mistake. You don’t talk with conservative journalists.

  • The Lantern of Truth

    Chris Matthews: The Appeal Of Palin, Bachmann To Republicans Is They ‘Don’t Know Anything’

    The same reason we like you Chris . You’re a blank slate .

  • “Real” American

    The Lantern of Truth said:
    Chris Matthews: The Appeal Of Palin, Bachmann To Republicans Is They ‘Don’t Know Anything’ The same reason we like you Chris . You’re a blank slate .

    Y’all do like you some empty suits, dontya?

  • LA screenwriter

    Matthews has just LOST it.

    Seriously, if I worked at MSNBC, I’d be checking his desk for empty vodka bottles or something. Or whatever it is he’s taking to ensure that his mind is continually fuzzy, but ramped up with anger and delusions. The man USED to demonstrate at least SOME degree…a minor one, but at least it was something…of fairness on his show.

    But ever since the election of Obama, Mister Leg Tingle has just decided to go all-out in terms of shilling for the Left. Which…in and of itself…I could tolerate a bit. At least then he’d be like the Left’s version of Hannity or some such thing. But the problem with Matthews — like many of the far Liberal Left — is that Obama literally (and I do mean LITERALLY) personified all their Leftist beliefs.

    “OMG! It’s a BLACK GUY as President! This is our chance to end racism! And you white people KNOW you’re still secretly racists!”

    “OMG!! He’s a well-spoken guy! This is our chance to RAM universal healthcare down the throats of the people! We’ve wanted this since FDR and Obama…with his looks and personality…is like having the best used car salesman ever!”

    “OMG!!! He’s a liberal like us! This is our chance to stick it to all the well-to-do people and MILK THEM for more money! We can finally tax them out the ass, so we can have even MORE of the social engineering programs we’ve always wanted!”

    Seriously, THAT is how Matthews thinks. And as a result, he’s just gotten downright bitter and mean spirited in hosting his show. Why? Because Matthews literally — and I do mean literally again — has a complete and total emotional investment in Obama. Its the actual cause for his tingle. Which means OBAMA MUST NOT… BE ALLOWED… TO FAIL… AT ANY COST.

    Which is why Matthews has gone from a once semi-respectable host to an utter buffoon on TV. And it’s why he’s thrown all civility out the window. Hell, he’s lost it so much, the moron no longer even realizes what he’s saying.

    On the bright side, the meltdown that he…along with Rachel Maddow and Ed Schultz… will have on election night in November 2012, when Obama loses because the economy then is STILL in the crapper (and no one will care about all the recent Bin Laden stuff, since they’re MORE pissed about STILL being unemployed or paying $6 a gallon for gas) is going to be PRICELESS to watch.

  • “Real” American

    LA screenwriter said:
    Matthews has just LOST it. Seriously, if I worked at MSNBC, I’d be checking his desk for empty vodka bottles or something. Or whatever it is he’s taking to ensure that his mind is continually fuzzy, but ramped up with anger and delusions. The man USED to demonstrate at least SOME degree…a minor one, but at least it was something…of fairness on his show. But ever since the election of Obama, Mister Leg Tingle has just decided to go all-out in terms of shilling for the Left. Which…in and of itself…I could tolerate a bit. At least then he’d be like the Left’s version of Hannity or some such thing. But the problem with Matthews — like many of the far Liberal Left — is that Obama literally (and I do mean LITERALLY) personified all their Leftist beliefs. “OMG! It’s a BLACK GUY as President! This is our chance to end racism! And you white people KNOW you’re still secretly racists!” “OMG!! He’s a well-spoken guy! This is our chance to RAM universal healthcare down the throats of the people! We’ve wanted this since FDR and Obama…with his looks and personality…is like having the best used car salesman ever!” “OMG!!! He’s a liberal like us! This is our chance to stick it to all the well-to-do people and MILK THEM for more money! We can finally tax them out the ass, so we can have even MORE of the social engineering programs we’ve always wanted!” Seriously, THAT is how Matthews thinks. And as a result, he’s just gotten downright bitter and mean spirited in hosting his show. Why? Because Matthews literally — and I do mean literally again — has a complete and total emotional investment in Obama. Its the actual cause for his tingle. Which means OBAMA MUST NOT… BE ALLOWED… TO FAIL… AT ANY COST. Which is why Matthews has gone from a once semi-respectable host to an utter buffoon on TV. And it’s why he’s thrown all civility out the window. Hell, he’s lost it so much, the moron no longer even realizes what he’s saying. On the bright side, the meltdown that he…along with Rachel Maddow and Ed Schultz… will have on election night in November 2012, when Obama loses because the economy then is STILL in the crapper (and no one will care about all the recent Bin Laden stuff, since they’re MORE pissed about STILL being unemployed or paying $6 a gallon for gas) is going to be PRICELESS to watch.

    Thanks for submitting a copy of your screenplay. After careful consideration, I have decided that your work, although containing some elements of reality, is too fantastical for the average audience member to connect with. Best of luck with the placement, might I suggest AboveTopSecret.com. Have a nice day.

  • BeckFinallyDemoted

    "Real" American said:
    Thanks for submitting a copy of your screenplay. After careful consideration, I have decided that your work, although containing some elements of reality, is too fantastical for the average audience member to connect with. Best of luck with the placement, might I suggest AboveTopSecret.com. Have a nice day.

    lol…classic

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-G-Abraham/1741063132 William G. Abraham

    Has Matthews actually made enough ludicrously incompetent and fawning compliments to the Messiah that he gets some “alone time” with the man? That has to be where he is angling, because nothing else makes sense anymore.

  • Who is Salacious Crumb

    Just a guess, but I think Mr. Chris isn’t tuned in to the Republican mindset. Palin is not running, and Bachmann will get creamed in any serious inter-party debate.

    I’d watch who Karl Rowe becomes attached too if I were seriously looking into who the Republican candidate will wind up being.

  • Barack Must Go

    These three are the guys that truly ‘Don’t Know Anything’. Not a problem for them though ……. they just make it up as they muddle along.

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    BeckFinallyDemoted said:
    Ummm…the sad fact is that Palin and Bachmann ARE smarter than the average teagagger.

    _______________________________________________________________
    CAUTION: BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THESE EX-BIRTHERS, THEY ARE ARMED AND IGNORANT…

    Dem4Ever, The Lantern of Truth, juan, Arkansas Steve, murf, Jaurez
    WCinWI, Barack Must Go, NOBAMA, Colorado_Conservative, gordonbloyershow
    TeaPartyPatriot, notsofast, Severian, Dronetek, TfT, mitchflorida, skoorbekim
    mdanielson, Harry Flashman, OxyCon and NORBIT

    maybe it is just that in which they find the appeal. “if these people can be in office, then so can i.”

    it’s kinda like something steinbeck of socialism in that “it never took root in america because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    Who is Salacious Crumb said:
    Just a guess, but I think Mr. Chris isn’t tuned in to the Republican mindset. Palin is not running, and Bachmann will get creamed in any serious inter-party debate.

    I’d watch who Karl Rowe becomes attached too if I were seriously looking into who the Republican candidate will wind up being.

    bill kristol is a good barometer…he had palin as vp long before anyone heard of her.

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    William G. Abraham said:
    Has Matthews actually made enough ludicrously incompetent and fawning compliments to the Messiah that he gets some “alone time” with the man? That has to be where he is angling, because nothing else makes sense anymore.

    you forgot to call him ‘tingles’.

  • redleaf

    “Night after night you look more disheavled. Drink less and get more sleep”
    “The same reason we like you Chris . You’re a blank slate ”
    “if I worked at MSNBC, I’d be checking his desk for empty vodka bottles or something”
    “Has Matthews actually made enough ludicrously incompetent and fawning compliments to the Messiah that he gets some “alone time” with the man?”

    What do all the above comments have in common?
    They’re not answering Matthew’s central question: what do Republicans see in Palin and Bachman.
    If all your intellect can muster is making fun of Matthews, then I feel sorry for you.
    If you have something of substance to say, we’d all be curious to hear it.
    Or your contribution can just be insults.

  • teccec

    Anyone notice how Chris spends much of his time asking ridiculous questions because he doesn’t know whats going on? Its not only because he’s a fool, its because he never bothers to consider a non-liberal could possibly have an idea based in reality. I for one have no problem admitting that he, as a liberal, can be expected to understand complex issues just as much as I expect myself or anyone else to, such as which shoe goes on the left foot? Which is left anyway, does it change when you look in a mirror?

  • Obeezy

    Once again, when real news is happening him and his propaganda network sink to a distant third.. For news this network is the pits and the rating continually show that.. He’s bat S^%t crazy

  • cjd ohio 1

    redleaf said:
    “Night after night you look more disheavled. Drink less and get more sleep”“The same reason we like you Chris . You’re a blank slate ”“if I worked at MSNBC, I’d be checking his desk for empty vodka bottles or something”“Has Matthews actually made enough ludicrously incompetent and fawning compliments to the Messiah that he gets some “alone time” with the man?” What do all the above comments have in common?They’re not answering Matthew’s central question: what do Republicans see in Palin and Bachman.If all your intellect can muster is making fun of Matthews, then I feel sorry for you.If you have something of substance to say, we’d all be curious to hear it.Or your contribution can just be insults.

    nothing, but they are the only ones chris matthews covers

  • chris87654

    I can’t believe a group of people don’t give credit to Obama for ending this (esp in ordering a man-to-man operation – which the SEALs executed perfectly), same as Bush deserves credit for initializing intelligence gathering. This same group would not give credit to Obama if he cured cancer or fixed the economy (which would take a LONG time for anyone). More in this group would accept him if he was white, but then they’d have to get past him being a Democrat – many of these same people root for the shallow sideshows like Trump, Palin, and Bachmann because they see them as the best the GOP will offer … go figure.

  • Who is Salacious Crumb

    ChiliPeppersFan said:
    bill kristol is a good barometer…he had palin as vp long before anyone heard of her.

    I’d watch Charles K too, especially with his not so subtle idea to draft Ryan. I actually like Ryan; he offers up ideas beyond the “Obama bad” talking points. Not to say I agree with his debt proposal, but at least he’s putting something out there to compare and contrast instead of “Obama bad.”

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    redleaf said:
    “Night after night you look more disheavled. Drink less and get more sleep”
    “The same reason we like you Chris . You’re a blank slate ”
    “if I worked at MSNBC, I’d be checking his desk for empty vodka bottles or something”
    “Has Matthews actually made enough ludicrously incompetent and fawning compliments to the Messiah that he gets some “alone time” with the man?”

    What do all the above comments have in common?
    They’re not answering Matthew’s central question: what do Republicans see in Palin and Bachman.
    If all your intellect can muster is making fun of Matthews, then I feel sorry for you.
    If you have something of substance to say, we’d all be curious to hear it.
    Or your contribution can just be insults.

    fu

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    Who is Salacious Crumb said:
    I’d watch Charles K too, especially with his not so subtle idea to draft Ryan. I actually like Ryan; he offers up ideas beyond the “Obama bad” talking points. Not to say I agree with his debt proposal, but at least he’s putting something out there to compare and contrast instead of “Obama bad.”

    i don’t see anything beyond the numbers thing with ryan which also begs the question…after all the bitching and moaning of the czars appointed by obama, what is the first thing they do when the take the house? appoint ryan as their budget czar.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    The Republican Know Nothings are now the Republican Don’t Know Anythings. Same Shit, Different Day.

  • WCinWI

    A more important clip is when Matthews did the following:

    At around the :32 or :33 second mark of the following clip, Matthews slips and says Obama instead of Osama.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/ns/msnbc_tv/#42886406

    This clip opens his show.

  • Who is Salacious Crumb

    ChiliPeppersFan said:
    i don’t see anything beyond the numbers thing with ryan which also begs the question…after all the bitching and moaning of the czars appointed by obama, what is the first thing they do when the take the house? appoint ryan as their budget czar.

    Heh-heh. Probably because Ryan had the best Republican showing in that health care debate in early ’10. He was the only guy in Obama’s league, and the GOP probably wanted to elevate him quick.

  • chris87654

    NOBAMA 2012 said:
    And just what would Christine “I joined the Peace Corps during the Viet Nam war ’cause I didn’t have the balls to join the Marine Corps” Matthews know about anything other than carrying water for the DNC.

    “I don’t think they’re smart as I am”…don’t “think” so much, missy…you might pull a muscle. LMAO

    You can dodge the subject, but Obama and the SEALs still kicked ass – riskiest operation but best results – and it spared the 9 kids who were in the compound.

    Gotta wonder what’s going through Gadaffi’s mind now, knowing that it could be a SEAL’s bullet if the USA made the effort.

  • LA screenwriter

    redleaf said:
    What do all the above comments have in common?
    They’re not answering Matthew’s central question: what do Republicans see in Palin and Bachman.
    If all your intellect can muster is making fun of Matthews, then I feel sorry for you.
    If you have something of substance to say, we’d all be curious to hear it.
    Or your contribution can just be insults.

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    nothing, but they are the only ones chris matthews covers

    That’s actually the HEART of the matter, and unfortunately it’s something that some people — such as Redleaf — are too biased or flat out too stupid to understand.

    Look, to address Redleaf’s question, here’s the best example of WHY Matthews — and the rest of the MSNBC commentary crew — have gone off the deep end. Just last week…right here at Mediaite…there was a big story about the Pew Project for Excellence in Journalism doing a non-partisan study of network news, to see who was ACTUALLY pushing the Obama “birther” story THE MOST.

    The result? Yep…you got it…it was MSNBC by a mile.

    At the time, I put up a post which I’ll now repeat. Because the POINT that I made then — about Ed Schultz and his delusional reporting — applies EXACTLY THE SAME to Chris Matthews. Simply because — just like Schultz — Matthews likewise loves to beat a particular drum to death, in his case it being his obvious personal contempt for both Palin and Bachmann. Which is WHY Matthews uses his show to drone on and on, to a nauseating degree, about them. Always doing his best to be a good Lefty shill, and doing WHATEVER he can to ensure that he spews as much hate and bitterness on TV regardless of any ACTUAL facts.

    So, to the terminally clueless like Redleaf, here’s what I said before. And this reply can now be applied TO Matthews and to his usual crony guests (for example, someone like Howard Fineman in particular) who likewise love to sit with Chris and literally JUST MAKE SHIT UP…

    So, let me get this straight: The Pew Project for Excellence in Journalism — which is non-partisan, by the way — does the SMARTEST and most BASIC thing of all. They run the video tapes…do some side-by-side comparisons…and then they tally up the numbers

    And what do they find?
    What any cable news junkie ALREADY KNEW.

    Namely, that MSNBC went literally bat shit crazy running “birther” stories round the clock — for the pure and simple reason that POLITICALLY they wanted to help Obama and the Left, by hanging as much dirt as possible around the neck of anyone who leaned Right.

    In fact, a round of applause should definitely go to Mr. Leg Tingle himself…Chris Matthews…who has opened EVERY show for the last 2 or so weeks doing extended birther segments AND centering his end-of-show “Let Me Finish” segments with birther commentaries as well.

    But the BIGGEST CROCK OF ALL…
    No, really, I kid you not…
    THE BIGGEST CROCK OF ALL…

    On the SAME day that you’re reading this news story that Pew has determined that MSNBC was the network that actually pushed this the most, right now — tonight — Ed Schultz and guest Eric Boehlert, from Media Matters, are doing an entire segment claiming the most coverage came from…

    …Yes, you guessed it, Fox News.

    In fact, Boehlert — speaking on behalf of Media Matters — is apparently on the show because he’s determined to prove, on national TV no less, that he’s one of the biggest liars ever when it comes to distorting cold, hard facts. Or perhaps he’s on the show simply because he enjoys showing — again, on national TV — that he’s an idiot who strayed too far from his village. And I say “idiot” to even be generous because even as he’s denouncing birthers as being low-brow and racist for believing in conspiracies (such as Obama not being born in the states)…

    …He’s THEN turning right around and claiming Fox had the most coverage AND claiming they’ve been in bed with Trump all along. Yes, this moron is ACTUALLY CLAIMING that there was an ACTUAL CONSPIRACY AND ALLIANCE between Fox and Trump. Because in Boehlert’s 12-watt dim bulb mind, I guess he envisions some sort of smokey back room, where some sort of illicit and nefarious plan was hatched.

    BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!!
    (insert corny and cliched evil movie laugh here)

    Now, I KNOW that Ed Schultz is a total buffoon with the IQ of a gnat. And that he possesses ZERO journalistic capabilities. But tonight it’s even more LAUGHABLE to see Boehlert on the air shilling and pushing yet another Soros-backed delusion. To be frank, it’s no wonder that America is in so much trouble when two utter clowns like this can be on national TV and embarrass themselves to such a degree.

  • WCinWI

    chris87654 said:
    You can dodge the subject, but Obama and the SEALs still kicked ass – riskiest operation but best results – and it spared the 9 kids who were in the compound.

    Gotta wonder what’s going through Gadaffi’s mind now, knowing that it could be a SEAL’s bullet if the USA made the effort.

    The SEALS kicked ass. Obama issued an order. There’s a HUGE difference – acknowledge the two.

  • Who is Salacious Crumb

    WCinWI said:
    The SEALS kicked ass. Obama issued an order. There’s a HUGE difference – acknowledge the two.

    Takes a lot of BALLS to issue that kind of order, my friend. As an American old enough to remember 9/11 in a mature context, you got to commend any President giving that mission the go, D or R.

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    WCinWI said:
    A more important clip is when Matthews did the following:

    At around the :32 or :33 second mark of the following clip, Matthews slips and says Obama instead of Osama.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/ns/msnbc_tv/#42886406

    This clip opens his show.

    as did beck about 3 or 4 times. now, which one do you think had the freudian slip and which made an honest slip of the tongue.

  • cjd ohio 1

    ChiliPeppersFan said:
    as did beck about 3 or 4 times. now, which one do you think had the freudian slip and which made an honest slip of the tongue.

    neither ever makes a honest mistakes

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    chris87654 said:
    You can dodge the subject, but Obama and the SEALs still kicked ass – riskiest operation but best results – and it spared the 9 kids who were in the compound.

    Gotta wonder what’s going through Gadaffi’s mind now, knowing that it could be a SEAL’s bullet if the USA made the effort.

    as jon stewart pointed out, he’s wondering if the sunglasses he wears are bullet proof.

  • WCinWI

    ChiliPeppersFan said:
    as did beck about 3 or 4 times. now, which one do you think had the freudian slip and which made an honest slip of the tongue.

    http://www.bluegrasspundit.com/2010/07/chris-matthews-has-freudian-slip-calls.html

    http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/03/13/freudian-slip-chris-matthews-calls-obama-president-carter

    Two different occasions by Matthews. You tell me.

  • WCinWI

    ChiliPeppersFan said:
    as did beck about 3 or 4 times. now, which one do you think had the freudian slip and which made an honest slip of the tongue.

    Please provide the video of this else it didn’t happen. :) I know that Geraldo, a liberal, did. And I think a local news affiliate did too. Other than that, haven’t seen major Freudian slips like the ones Matthews has done.

  • WCinWI

    Who is Salacious Crumb said:
    Takes a lot of BALLS to issue that kind of order, my friend. As an American old enough to remember 9/11 in a mature context, you got to commend any President giving that mission the go, D or R.

    Your premise is flawed. I saw the twin towers come down. I remember the context. I think a President doing what a President should do, doesn’t warrant commendation. Does he earn respect? Sure. However, the economy is tanking and any other President more than likely (99.99999%) would’ve done the same thing. Besides, the reasons why he could do what he did was because of Bush.

  • notsofast

    BeckFinallyDemoted said:
    BeckFinallyDemoted says:
    May 3, 2011 at 6:35 pm BeckFinallyDemoted(Quote)
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    They certainly are smarter than you, son.

  • notsofast

    "Real" American said:
    Y’all do like you some empty suits, dontya?

    You are one, so you would know, son.

  • notsofast

    redleaf said:
    They’re not answering Matthew’s central question: what do Republicans see in Palin and Bachman.

    That they are not Barry, son.

    Get it, so?

  • notsofast

    Bill Adkins said:
    The Republican Know Nothings are now the Republican Don’t Know Anythings. Same Shit, Different Day.

    And you are the Liberal Blow Everything, son!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    WCinWI said:
    The SEALS kicked ass. Obama issued an order. There’s a HUGE difference – acknowledge the two.

    please, you can’t say that obama didn’t have a lot to lose in this operation. The seals get 90% of the credit but it was ultimate on the potus’ authority.

  • tatboy

    Let me remind you all once again that this dumb@ss was a speech writer for Carter. He has no room to judge here.

  • tatboy

    Ben Pratt said:
    please, you can’t say that obama didn’t have a lot to lose in this operation. The seals get 90% of the credit but it was ultimate on the potus’ authority.

    I can agree with that.

  • WCinWI

    Ben Pratt said:
    please, you can’t say that obama didn’t have a lot to lose in this operation. The seals get 90% of the credit but it was ultimate on the potus’ authority.

    No, the SEALS get 100% of the credit. President of any political affiliation gets respect.

  • Nationman

    WCinWI said:
    However, the economy is tanking and any other President more than likely (99.99999%) would’ve done the same thing. .

    except there’s a precedent for when this type of operation fails. You ever hear of jimmy carter and the iranian hostage crisis? He never recovered from that failure

  • Nationman

    WCinWI said:
    No, the SEALS get 100% of the credit. President of any political affiliation gets respect.

    so you’re debating with me on what now? semantics?

  • WCinWI

    Ben Pratt said:
    please, you can’t say that obama didn’t have a lot to lose in this operation. The seals get 90% of the credit but it was ultimate on the potus’ authority.

    That said, Obama has had a lot to lose for awhile and the media doesn’t hold him responsible. This incident wouldn’t change that.

  • notsofast

    chris87654 said:
    You can dodge the subject, but Obama and the SEALs still kicked ass – riskiest operation but best results – and it spared the 9 kids who were in the compound.

    LOL

    Sorry, son, but when are the lib lies going to end?

    Yesterday it was:

    There was stiff resistance from guards at the compound, UBL was firing at the Seals and UBL was using a woman as a shield.

    Really?

    Today:

    There were no guards.
    UBL didn’t use a woman as a shield.
    UBL had no gun, put up no resistance but was still shot dead in front of his non-adult children.

    As a lib, you must be so proud. Let’s bring Bush up on war crimes for water-boarding the # 4 AQ leader, KSM, but let’s celebrate the shooting of an unarmed UBL who, if taken alive, could have provided a world of intel.

    Can you libs get your lies straight before you tell a fairy story to America?

    Apparently not!

  • michiganruth

    I’m no Obama fan, but I give him major credit for this whole operation. and while you can’t put that sort of “courage” on a par with the bravery of those amazing Navy SEALS, it did take a lot of cojones to make the decision. so snaps up to Obama for that.

    but…

    it would have been classy for him to have at least mentioned Bush, since the intel was apparently obtained thru waterboarding at an “overseas prison” somewhere. and of course Senator Obama was very much against all that.

  • WCinWI

    Nationman said:
    so you’re debating with me on what now? semantics?

    I am not talking to you. I was talking to Ben. I don’t do dual sns.

  • tatboy

    WCinWI said:
    No, the SEALS get 100% of the credit. President of any political affiliation gets respect.

    Ultimately the SEALS got the green light from the POTUS. I give 90% to them, but the Commander and Chief HAD to green light the mission to send these bad @ss motherf^ckers in to do their job. I would say the same if it was Bush.

  • Nationman

    notsofast said:
    LOL Sorry, son, but when are the lib lies going to end? Yesterday it was: There was stiff resistance from guards at the compound, UBL was firing at the Seals and UBL was using a woman as a shield. Really? Today: There were no guards.UBL didn’t use a woman as a shield.UBL had no gun, put up no resistance but was still shot dead in front of his non-adult children. As a lib, you must be so proud. Let’s bring Bush up on war crimes for water-boarding the # 4 AQ leader, KSM, but let’s celebrate the shooting of an unarmed UBL who, if taken alive, could have provided a world of intel. Can you libs get your lies straight before you tell a fairy story to America? Apparently not!

    don’t you want to know where the death certificate is nf?

  • Nationman

    WCinWI said:
    I am not talking to you. I was talking to Ben. I don’t do dual sns.

    sorry, everytime I have facebook open, it logs me into the facebook account I have on mediaite. What are we debating about though? semantics?

  • WCinWI

    tatboy said:
    Ultimately the SEALS got the green light from the POTUS. I give 90% to them, but the Commander and Chief HAD to green light the mission to send these bad @ss motherf^ckers in to do their job. I would say the same if it was Bush.

    I understand that, but I think it’s a false premise to give credit to someone who wouldn’t have even had an intel program in place like the one that captured the info. I respect and give Obama credit for making that choice, but he didn’t have to DO it. Making the decision is pennies in comparison to actually doing it in my eyes.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Looks like Bachmann and Palin are intent on reviving the American party. They’re fueled by the same principles.

  • notsofast

    Nationman said:
    don’t you want to know where the death certificate is nf?

    No, I want to hear Barry explain why they killed a valuable target who was unarmed and not resisting.

    The WH spokesman tried to but couldn’t, plus John O. Brennan , chief counter-terrorism advisor to the President, completely LIED about the facts of the operation yesterday.

  • Who is Salacious Crumb

    WCinWI said:
    Your premise is flawed. I saw the twin towers come down. I remember the context. I think a President doing what a President should do, doesn’t warrant commendation. Does he earn respect? Sure. However, the economy is tanking and any other President more than likely (99.99999%) would’ve done the same thing. Besides, the reasons why he could do what he did was because of Bush.

    And so? Yes, gas prices suck, and all of us who really give a damn want Mr. Obama to address that.

    On other fronts, Mr. Obama Skywalkered a Kenobi vendetta Mr. Bush began. Yes, Bush paved the way for American vengeance with Obama at the helm when it was ultimately executed. I refuse to politicize such an enterprise. Anyone who doubts Bush and Obama won’t hug it out the next time they meet, like a couple of old warriors, over bin Laden’s death suck the big partisan dip-shit stick. Feel me?

  • tatboy

    WCinWI said:
    I understand that, but I think it’s a false premise to give credit to someone who wouldn’t have even had an intel program in place like the one that captured the info. I respect and give Obama credit for making that choice, but he didn’t have to DO it. Making the decision is pennies in comparison to actually doing it in my eyes.

    I agree. It’s how much credit to you give the guy for making the political decision? I give Obama “some” credit for putting his presidency at risk. If those SEALS had been killed or worse… We had a Black Hawk Down situation… he would have taken it in the shorts.

    I refuse to be like the hate filled PIGS that gave NO credit to Bush no matter what he did. I’m better than the Olbermann’s of the left.

  • notsofast

    tatboy said:
    I give Obama “some” credit for putting his presidency at risk.

    I give him much credit. They didn’t know if that was UBL’s house; not one person had seen him there.

    In 1999, Clinton had eyes on the ground intel that UBL was at a location and he balked over concerns of collateral damage.

  • Nationman

    notsofast said:
    No, I want to hear Barry explain why they killed a valuable target who was unarmed and not resisting. The WH spokesman tried to but couldn’t, plus John O. Brennan , chief counter-terrorism advisor to the President, completely LIED about the facts of the operation yesterday.

    http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2011/05/04/bin-laden-unarmed-says-white-house/
    ask the seas
    he resisted the attack. Could’ve been the seal didn’t know if he was armed or not and decided that he shouldn’t risk it. But I see the lines your drawing to the conclusion that obama specifically said to kill him because of some vast conspiracy. Go on, let’s hear all of it.

  • WCinWI

    tatboy said:
    I agree. It’s how much credit to you give the guy for making the political decision? I give Obama “some” credit for putting his presidency at risk. If those SEALS had been killed or worse… We had a Black Hawk Down situation… he would have taken it in the shorts.

    I refuse to be like the hate filled PIGS that gave NO credit to Bush no matter what he did. I’m better than the Olbermann’s of the left.

    That’s a false premise to me. Obama’s Presidency is never at risk. Too many blinded people follow/still worship him and with a complacent media, it’s not exactly a fair shot at being a battle between D & R. I am happy about the decision that he made, but that doesn’t have to affect my thoughts on the rest of his actions or inactions. Other than that, credit should go to the SEALS and Bush, with Obama playing a lesser role. But credit due nonetheless.

  • WCinWI

    Nationman said:
    http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2011/05/04/bin-laden-unarmed-says-white-house/
    ask the seas
    he resisted the attack. Could’ve been the seal didn’t know if he was armed or not and decided that he shouldn’t risk it. But I see the lines your drawing to the conclusion that obama specifically said to kill him because of some vast conspiracy. Go on, let’s hear all of it.

    What should be the conspiracy name for people that talk about conspiracy theorists all of the time? C-squared?

  • WCinWI
  • notsofast

    Nationman said:
    http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2011/05/04/bin-laden-unarmed-says-white-house/
    ask the seas
    he resisted the attack. Could’ve been the seal didn’t know if he was armed or not and decided that he shouldn’t risk it. But I see the lines your drawing to the conclusion that obama specifically said to kill him because of some vast conspiracy. Go on, let’s hear all of it.

    Wow, you must be a birther and deather rolled into one.

    Carney was asked how UBL was resisting and he siad “there was resistance in other areas.” He was then asked if their were resistance in UBL’s room and he could not answer it. Other reporters were asking why not take him alive?

    Brennen has said one day “it was a kill mission” and then the next, “it was a kill/capture mission.”

    Well, which was it?

    How come now UBL had no gun after Brennen said UBL was “shooting” at the Seals?

  • notsofast

    WCinWI said:
    Too many blinded people follow/still worship him and with a complacent media,

    That’s true.

    I mean my God- bring Bush up on war crimes for water-boarding KSM and celebrate the shooting of an unarmed UBL?

  • notsofast

    Nationman said:
    But I see the lines your drawing to the conclusion that obama specifically said to kill him because of some vast conspiracy. Go on, let’s hear all of it.

    Oh, I forgot , you are one of those who questioned everything Bush did, but everything Barry does,is accepted implicitly.

    Got it.

  • chris87654

    WCinWI said:
    The SEALS kicked ass. Obama issued an order. There’s a HUGE difference – acknowledge the two.

    I agree, BUT there were three choices – 1) drop (32) 2000 lb bombs; 2) do a risky ground operation (while considering Iran hostages and Somalia); or 3) wait/gather more info to be sure BL was there. The SEALs were at risk only to prevent collateral damage and to ensure the BL body was recovered – the easy way would be to drop the bombs, let God sort out the bodies (including 4 women and 9 kids), and let the jihadis prove BL was dead after they wonder why the BLs courier missed pickups/drops). Gotta wonder how other leaders would have done this (my guess is Cheney/Bush would have dropped the bombs; Bachmann/Trump would wait until sure (ie hold off any decision; and at this time Sarah would definitely wait because she’s suddenly turned pacifist ).

    The other part is Obama keeping a poker face through all this – the dinner/jokes were after he gave the order. And when it was done, all he said was “We got him” – compare Obama’s cool attitude to Donald blowing his own Trumpet after he debunked the big bad Birther Issue.

  • WCinWI

    notsofast said:
    That’s true.

    I mean my God- bring Bush up on war crimes for water-boarding KSM and celebrate the shooting of an unarmed UBL?

    With all of the info that is “leaking” out, I really don’t get how they’re soooo Pro-Obama at this point. There’s a difference between rejoicing in America’s military and then being blinded by worship of a President.

  • WCinWI

    notsofast said:
    That’s true.

    I mean my God- bring Bush up on war crimes for water-boarding KSM and celebrate the shooting of an unarmed UBL?

    I would think they would’ve met beforehand to discuss talking points given the two outcomes. Dead or kept alive. Apparently, they can’t get their story straight. Tends to happen when you’re fibbing the truth.

  • notsofast

    chris87654 said:
    Gotta wonder how other leaders would have done this (my guess is Cheney/Bush would have dropped the bombs; Bachmann/Trump would wait until sure (ie hold off any decision; and at this time Sarah would definitely wait because she’s suddenly turned pacifist ).

    Assumes facts not in evidence.

  • notsofast

    WCinWI said:
    , I really don’t get how they’re soooo Pro-Obama at this point.

    When did I do that?

  • notsofast

    WCinWI said:
    Tends to happen when you’re fibbing the truth.

    They have a lot to clarify.

  • notsofast

    notsofast said:
    When did I do that?

    Oops, misread what ya posted.

  • WCinWI

    notsofast said:
    When did I do that?

    Haha you didn’t. Confused at something I said? I didn’t say anything negative against you. :)

  • chris87654

    notsofast said:
    There were no guards.
    UBL didn’t use a woman as a shield.
    UBL had no gun, put up no resistance but was still shot dead in front of his non-adult children.

    Right.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    My show is absolutely non-partisan.

    Chris “I have an Obama shaped tingle running up my leg and into my nether regions” Matthews.

  • chris87654

    notsofast said:
    shot dead

    Are you libs sure about this?

  • notsofast

    WCinWI said:
    Haha you didn’t. Confused at something I said? I didn’t say anything negative against you. :)

    No, I think it took guts to do thee mission when ya didn’t even know whose house it was.

    But, damn, why kill the guy who had all the intel when it wasn’t necessary?

    They are now talking about all the intel they got, but hey, that’s nothing compared to having the guy who created AQ.

    And why all the falsehoods about him having a gun, shooting at Seals and using his wife as a shield when none of that was true?

  • notsofast

    chris87654 said:
    Are you libs sure about this?

    Son, you must be new.

  • tatboy

    WCinWI said:
    That’s a false premise to me. Obama’s Presidency is never at risk. Too many blinded people follow/still worship him and with a complacent media, it’s not exactly a fair shot at being a battle between D & R. I am happy about the decision that he made, but that doesn’t have to affect my thoughts on the rest of his actions or inactions. Other than that, credit should go to the SEALS and Bush, with Obama playing a lesser role. But credit due nonetheless.

    I can’t argue. I just try very hard not to be like the people I can’t stand. But I see your point about Obama being very protected. More than any other pesident in our history.

  • Group Hug

    Chris, Boobie, We luv ya here in the big wet Pacific, but man your jealousy of women in power is bigger than your man-crush on Obama. Gosh darn Chris learn to love baby, learn to love….

  • WCinWI

    tatboy said:
    I can’t argue. I just try very hard not to be like the people I can’t stand. But I see your point about Obama being very protected. More than any other pesident in our history.

    Yeah – take no offense from my words to you. I think you’re one of the more fair people that post at this site. I just don’t like all of this faux praise. :) I like praise, but just not over-the-top schtuff. :)

  • chris87654

    Nationman said:
    except there’s a precedent for when this type of operation fails. You ever hear of jimmy carter and the iranian hostage crisis? He never recovered from that failure

    Hadn’t even thought of effect on Obama had this failed – whether BL wasn’t there or it ended up like Somalia. It wouldn’t so much be his fault (he “just” issued an order) unless chances were like 5% it could be pulled off – he’d have been roasted by these who can’t handle a black president, and it would likely put him in the crapper with those who can (saying it was too risky etc – similar to what happened after the two failures)

  • chris87654

    notsofast said:
    you must be new.

    lib son

  • chris87654

    notsofast said:
    chris87654 said:
    Are you libs sure about this?

    Son, you must be new.

    That doesn’t answer the question.
    Are you people sure Osama is dead? The internet said someone swears Osama was at a Paducah Walmart and another article said he’s jailed in Scranton – it’s hard to keep up with all the news.

    But do you think he’s really dead?

  • chris87654

    notsofast said:
    No, I think it took guts to do thee mission when ya didn’t even know whose house it was.

    But, damn, why kill the guy who had all the intel when it wasn’t necessary?

    They are now talking about all the intel they got, but hey, that’s nothing compared to having the guy who created AQ.

    And why all the falsehoods about him having a gun, shooting at Seals and using his wife as a shield when none of that was true?

    1) think I read the group was 80-86% sure he was there – maybe that reflects doubt that it was even his house.
    2) they can probably get more info from the grab (though I think it’s STUPID for this to be published before they evaluate it – unless they’re sure it makes terrorists easier to find) than they could by waterboarding BL.
    3) if they had BL or his body – I think there would be immediate/more attacks demanding he/his body be released – BL dead and gone quickly is a psychological blow (though who knows where this may lead/retaliations).
    4) no clue … unless they think the woman who jumped in front of SEALs/got shot in the leg (if true) would tell everyone BL had no gun (doubtful). The govt seems very careful about this (trying), but that goes back to your question – why change the story? (I didn’t read who released original story, but must have been some official [it wasn't the Enquirer])

  • LOGICandREASON

    I really don’t understand this “smart as Obama” thing; can someone explain it?

    It’s fine to say someone is smart, but smarter than who?

    1.) I would think elementary school pupils know the US has 50 states and not 57
    2.) An average adult with basic formal education will know that “Austrian” is not a language
    3.) That the US Constitution was not written “20 centuries” ago
    4.) That His Health Care Plan Will Bring More “Inefficiencies” to the System
    5.) That Europe is not a “Country” but a Continent
    6.) That “The Time Has Changed For Come”
    7.) That “Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s.”
    8.) That the strongest friend and ally to the US is not Nicolas Sarkozy and the French people

    I could write an endless list, and I am willing to match Obama’s stupidity any day to those suggested by the liberal media for Bachmann or Palin, so we can actually see who is dumber and smarter. Bachmann has two law degrees and more substance than Obama with his empty suit and bloated rhetoric.

    BRIEF LIST OF OBAMA GAFFES

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws – Obama Claims He’s Visited 57 States
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiRhHqlzaG4 – Obama: Constitution written “20 centuries” ago
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1mtvJtjQpQ – Obama: There’ll always be an England
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z16iVri3Kzk – Obama: His Health Care Plan Will Bring More “Inefficiencies” to the System
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nGXqsKchPk – Obama thinks Europe is a country
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m913UIMw0As – Obama: The Time Has Changed For Come
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdhvPy1LIp0 – Obama: FBI’s 100 days?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZGW2TF1olA – Obama – Halt the rise of privacy
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr7zhnctF4c – Barack Obama thinks Austrian is a language
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUCVL2tLICg – Obama Makes Middle East Gaffe – Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxxGUeZtno – Obama Asthma Teleprompter Gaffe
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO3QpcpJ9AI – Obama’s awkward moment – teleprompter gets stuck again – 4-27-2009
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRPcJ0QIh5o – Barack Obama’s Teleprompter Malfunction
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL9lgI79yNQ – InGodWeTrust
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9iCANi02o – Barack Hussein Obama refuses to salute US flag
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ5aezVh7QY – We don’t have a stronger friend and stronger ally than Nicolas Sarkozy, and the French people

  • LOGICandREASON

    The Liberal media makes Obama seem so smart, and they are actually proud of his stupidity

  • WildMan

    Yo Chrissy….have you checked your ratings lately? ROTFFLMFAO…! Maybe you should once in a while. Not many people watch your silly show. Even Seth Myers made fun of it at the WHCD the other night. Maybe you and Lawrence O’Idiot could do stand up comedy with David Corn and Fat n’ Angry Edie Schultz.

    BTW, I don’t think Michelle Obama appreciates you making all those noises, you know the grunts and groans like you are sexing yourself over her husband. Everyone knows you get tingles and thrills over Obama but, can you keep the gay stuff to yourself….PLEASE!!! God, you are so strange, Chrissy…I mean really, really weird.

  • meena140

    Yup Palin is DUMB for can’t even name a journalist!
    http://www.themudflats.net/2011/05/03/palin-pulls-a-palin-again/?#comment-262881

  • felixw

    Once again, Chris Matthews collapses into the most pathetic ad hominem attacks. This is the only thing he can muster nowadays. Clearly he’s incapable of responding to the Republican agenda of fiscal responsibility and government accountability with any persuasive reasons to continue on the Obama path to bankruptcy. So he fumes and rants and insults anyone who disagrees with him. But as we all know, you resort to these kinds of insults when you realize you have lost the argument. And that’s the current situation of the American left — they can’t summon up any articulate defense of their spend-money-we-don’t-have policies, so they sling mud and more mud and still more mud. I suspect that’s what MS stands for in MSNBC : MUD SLINGING

  • JasonMays

    BeckFinallyDemoted said:
    Ummm…the sad fact is that Palin and Bachmann ARE smarter than the average teagagger. _______________________________________________________________CAUTION: BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THESE EX-BIRTHERS, THEY ARE ARMED AND IGNORANT… Dem4Ever, The Lantern of Truth, juan, Arkansas Steve, murf, JaurezWCinWI, Barack Must Go, NOBAMA, Colorado_Conservative, gordonbloyershowTeaPartyPatriot, notsofast, Severian, Dronetek, TfT, mitchflorida, skoorbekimmdanielson, Harry Flashman, OxyCon and NORBIT

    Says an idiot bleating nonstop about them on a political website. You can’t make this shit up.

  • newzmaker

    I wonder how Michelle Obama feels about these fat old white guys on MSNBC, having giddy schoolgirl mancrushes on her husband. I bet she has instructed the Secret Service to be on high alert, when these dudes are near Obama, in case they try to jump Obama’s bones. LOL.

  • WCinWI

    meena140 said:
    Yup Palin is DUMB for can’t even name a journalist!
    http://www.themudflats.net/2011/05/03/palin-pulls-a-palin-again/?#comment-262881

    You must be a trig truther. That says more about you than anything else.

  • TucsonTerpFan

    The more Matthews tries to be like the rest of those on MSNBC, the fewer viewers he has. He was crazy; now, he’s gone over the deep end as have the rest of the MSNBC crew.

    I think that “thrill” has reversed itself and gone from down his leg up to his brain.

    But, maybe he’s just been in “Warrshington” too long.

  • CAconservative

    This is the depth of Matthews argument about women running against Obimbo? Stupid nonsense is all he can come up with? In Matthew’s mind, a quasi-dictator, who’s ego tells him that he is never wrong and that only he knows the answers is what Matthews is touting as some sort of savior for this country? When examples of just the opposite are in plain view for this idiot and any other Obimbo supporter and apologist to see. Matthews pulls poor viewership numbers for a reason!

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