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CNN’s Dr. Sanjay Gupta Talks To Mediaite From Havana On Covering The Cuban Health Care System

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What are your first impressions of the place?

The first impression for me as an American is, simply, being able to go and getting the visa and taking a charter plane from Miami. It’s all sort of unusual just in terms of the process of getting there—to Cuban soil in Havana. The entire plane erupts into cheers—I think it was three quarters of people so excited to be home, obviously mostly Cubans on the plane. One quarter of people were just excited we didn’t crash! They were praying as we were getting close to the runway. It’s obviously a very emotional experience for people to be able to arrive in Cuba, to come back to Cuba—everyone has their own unique story.

I was met at the airport by the foreign minister, and we ended up having a wide-ranging conversation while we waited for my bags. It took about an hour for the bags to come out. And we talked about everything, he was very candid about the current Cuban leadership to Cuban-American relationships, including doctor diplomacy—they’re big on sending out doctors everywhere. They offered to send doctors to New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, and the offer was not accepted. You end up talking a lot about why they invest in their health care system, how they invest in their health care system, and what that health care system has offered people all over the world. But he was very candid about what they have to offer and what their limitations are.

Today we’re going to go visit these hospitals with several different doctors in several different locations to try to get a bird’s eye view of what’s happening—with full knowledge that you can’t make an assessment of the entire health care system. That’s the goal today. Yesterday we spent a lot of time working on a documentary about Diana Nyad and her swim. And it’s funny—I asked her, “Why Cuba? Why not swim from anywhere else?” and she said, “Have you been to Cuba? You have to go and then you’ll understand.” When you sit up at the beach, or by the Malecón, you realize it’s a different, special, vibrant place.

How do you feel about the access that you’re being given to the city and the hospitals? How much do you expect to see that would be what the average Cuban experiences?

Well, that’s the real concern, and I don’t know right now. The concern is that we’re going to be given a tour of hospitals designed for us as journalists and the question is—is it reflective or representative of the health care system overall? I’m going to do my best to answer the question. There are lots of doctors who worked in Cuba but no longer work in Cuba who we are going to speak with who give us their own viewpoint on what’s happening in there. I think that it’s imperative for me as a journalist and as a doctor to come here and look myself at whatever I can—go to as many places as I can, talk to as many people as I can, patients, doctors, nurses, professionals alike. So to your question, how representative what I see today will be of Cuba, I don’t know yet. I think the whole picture is going to involve talking to people both inside and outside the country.

Are you allowed to move about freely in terms of talking to people or interviewing in public places?

Yeah… I mean, I should add that even now, we were told that as I’m speaking to you on the phone, as you may know there’s a good chance that people are listening in in some way. I’m in an office building where they have known for some time that the conversations can be heard, so I’ll preface by saying that. We know as well that while moving on the street yesterday, getting news, we are being monitored, ostensibly for safety purposes—at least that’s what we’re told, people keeping an eye on us, but I haven’t had any impediments to doing what I do, but that’s not to say I’m not being observed.

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  • Darladoon

    great stuff, frances!

  • Darladoon

    great stuff, frances!

  • http://twitter.com/Good_Lt Good Lt.

    I found in him a refusal to subscribe to the Oliver Stone/Michael Moore
    school of willful blindness, admitting there were breathtaking elements
    to the island while acknowledging the scattering of asterisks and
    conjectures surrounding the statistics of the health care system, and
    the inability of journalists to paint a full picture.

    Which means, of course, that Obamacrats will immediately label Gupta a rightwing teathuglikkkan racist murderer Koch sucker.

    Bank on it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chasrmartin Charlie Martin

     If you look at life expectancy and infant mortality rates are among the best in the world. In fact the infant mortality rate is lower than in the United States. Critics will say that this is because the abortion rates are higher in Cuba, so you can see how this argument can go back and forth and some of it is hard to prove.

    No they don’t, Sanjay: http://www.overpopulation.com/articles/2002/cuba-vs-the-united-states-on-infant-mortality/ they collect their statistics differently, counting more children as stillborn that we count as live births:

    This is clearly what is happening in Cuba. In the United States about 1.3 percent of all live births are very low birth weight — less than 1,500 grams. In Cuba, on the other hand, only about 0.4 percent of all births are less than 1,500 grams. This is despite the fact that the United States and Cuba have very similar low birth rates (births where the infant weighs less than 2500g). The United States actually has a much better low birth rate than Cuba if you control for multiple births — i.e. the growing number of multiple births in the UnitedStates due to technological interventions has resulted in a marked increase in the number of births under 2,500 g.
    It is odd if both Cuba and the U.S. have similar birth weight distributions that the U.S. has more than 3 times the number of births under 1,500g, unless there is a marked discrepancy in the way that very low birth weight births are recorded. Cuba probably does much the same thing that many other countries do and does not register births under 1000g. In fact, this is precisely what the World Health Organization itself recommends that for official record keeping purposes, only live births of greater than 1,000g should be included.The result is that the statistics make it appear as if Cuba’s infant mortality rate is significantly better than the United States’, but in fact what is really being measured in this difference is that the United States takes far more serious (and expensive) interventions among extremely low birth weight and extremely premature infants than Cuba (or much of the rest of the world for that matter) does.

  • JMcCarthy

    While Sanjay is visiting that shining Utopia of Communism, a world class example of Healthcare AND Education maybe, if he is really lucky, Castro will allow him to sit in on one of his meeting’s with America’s very own Congressional Black Caucus-in his very own living room no less!  Seriously!!!  But keep Sanjay away from the beaches we don’t want him to see the thousands of Cubans trying to flee to Florida.  They just don’t understand the BENIFITS of Communism!  Or maybe they do!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek Bulk Vanderhuge

    They don’t call it the “Communist News Network” for nothing. 

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Thanks so much for the racist input. We don’t get enough of that around here.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Sometimes you are far more vacuous than my Hoover. This is one such time.

  • Jibbgabb

    ‘No’….we sure dont and never expect anything other than the ‘ignorance’(left/right-black-gray-white)to always shine through!

  • Peddle Faster

    I concur, we should ALWAYS ask a man who is from a country where the norm is to deficate in the street, how BAD America is and HOW to make it better.

    Gupta – a foreigner WHEREEVER he is

  • Anonymous

    I liked this interview and article. Gupta seems to be very level headed about Cuba’s health care system and it’s challenges. Perhaps he’ll quiet the Michael Moore -Oliver Stone nonsense that is so often repeated.

  • Anonymous

    there you go again. More silly “racist” comments. Are you really that stupid or does it run in the family?

  • Obama – The – Destroyer

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  • Anonymous

    I have always wondered how those – such as Mike Moore – can go to Castro’s island fiefdom and declare their health system as not only wondrous, but some the U.S. should emulate.  There is a willful ignorance that the common people do not have access to the same treatment centers as say the dignataries and tourists.  The women on that island have long had to turn to the black market for basics such as feminine hygiene products.  This is what they want to export to our shores? No thanks, but if you are so enamored by all means take a one-way to Havana.

  • JMcCarthy

    When you lose an argument Marxists scream RACIST!  It doesn’t work anymore.  Get over it.

  • Anonymous

    If doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results is a definition of insanity, then our policy of trying to get rid of the Castros by blocking access to the island of Cuba, then our policy is insane.  My guess is that, if the USA just said that we are going to treat Cuba like any other country, that if they want to buy US goods and have the money they can go for it, and if they have goods that Americans want to buy, they can sell them, things between the USA and Cuba would soon improve.  Further, allowing US citizens to travel to Cuba and Cuban citizens to travel to the US freely would soon solve all the rest of our problems vis-a-vis
    Cuba.  A dictator ship needs enemies to justify itself.  Hard to be enemies if the other side gives you no excuse.

  • Obama – The – Destroyer

    Does “Dr.” Gupta still shit in the street? Or, are there SOME things about America he actually LIKES?

  • caconservative

    And a sister of the Koch brothers.

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