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	<title>Comments on: CNN&#8217;s Jeffrey Toobin: Supreme Court Will Not Overrule &#8216;Deem and Pass&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: sibat0705</title>
		<link>http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-jeffrey-toobin-supreme-court-will-not-overrule-deem-and-pass/#comment-34348</link>
		<dc:creator>sibat0705</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 10:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: marcus.lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcus.lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@timzank  Actually the majority of Americans already have health insurance, so they aren&#039;t being forced to purchase anything additional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@timzank  Actually the majority of Americans already have health insurance, so they aren&#8217;t being forced to purchase anything additional.</p>
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		<title>By: timzank</title>
		<link>http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-jeffrey-toobin-supreme-court-will-not-overrule-deem-and-pass/#comment-33921</link>
		<dc:creator>timzank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the &quot;if&quot; disgusted, I got ahead of myself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the &#8220;if&#8221; disgusted, I got ahead of myself!</p>
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		<title>By: disgusted</title>
		<link>http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-jeffrey-toobin-supreme-court-will-not-overrule-deem-and-pass/#comment-33916</link>
		<dc:creator>disgusted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Forced purchase and enforcement through the IRS is not gonna go over well when/IF folks finally figure it out.
remember the last &#039;lection! - Has SUEI/Acorn locked-in the &quot;vote counting&quot; task?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Forced purchase and enforcement through the IRS is not gonna go over well when/IF folks finally figure it out.<br />
remember the last &#8216;lection! &#8211; Has SUEI/Acorn locked-in the &#8220;vote counting&#8221; task?</p>
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		<title>By: timzank</title>
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		<dc:creator>timzank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing is certain, no matter the legal machinations and manuevering, when the majority of the average  American public out there figure out that Democrats, all by themselves, crafted and slid into existence a law that absolutely forces them to buy a product or face fines and even incarceration, it&#039;s gonna be a mighty red nation for a mighty long time. Forced purchase and enforcement through the IRS is not gonna go over well when folks finally figure it out.

Barry and the Dems will no doubt make history, but it will be at the cost of the Democratic party for decades...Most Americans will put up with the waste, fraud and stupidity of both Dems &amp; Repubs, but actually making it the law of the land &quot;you must purchase X&quot; , unless you are a socialist, is going to piss off most Americans permanently and beyond repair. 

The Dems may want to consider a name change in the near future....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing is certain, no matter the legal machinations and manuevering, when the majority of the average  American public out there figure out that Democrats, all by themselves, crafted and slid into existence a law that absolutely forces them to buy a product or face fines and even incarceration, it&#8217;s gonna be a mighty red nation for a mighty long time. Forced purchase and enforcement through the IRS is not gonna go over well when folks finally figure it out.</p>
<p>Barry and the Dems will no doubt make history, but it will be at the cost of the Democratic party for decades&#8230;Most Americans will put up with the waste, fraud and stupidity of both Dems &amp; Repubs, but actually making it the law of the land &#8220;you must purchase X&#8221; , unless you are a socialist, is going to piss off most Americans permanently and beyond repair. </p>
<p>The Dems may want to consider a name change in the near future&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: John Boyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Boyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference in this situation is that the Dems are going to Demon Pass only the contents of the Senate bill and part they are going to send to the Senate. Hot Air has a post arguing this is unconstitutional, unlike other Demon Pass usages. http://is.gd/aPJvY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference in this situation is that the Dems are going to Demon Pass only the contents of the Senate bill and part they are going to send to the Senate. Hot Air has a post arguing this is unconstitutional, unlike other Demon Pass usages. <a href="http://is.gd/aPJvY" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/aPJvY</a></p>
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		<title>By: MartiniShark</title>
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		<dc:creator>MartiniShark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 02:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toobin&#039;s main point is correct, in that the Court is not likely to challenge procedural issues with another branch.  However when it comes to the actual passing of this there could be legal challenges.  There will be numerous states challenging this on the 10th amendment issues. And the fact that we&#039;ll see a Congressional requirement on citizens to purchase something or be fined could be unconstitutional itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toobin&#8217;s main point is correct, in that the Court is not likely to challenge procedural issues with another branch.  However when it comes to the actual passing of this there could be legal challenges.  There will be numerous states challenging this on the 10th amendment issues. And the fact that we&#8217;ll see a Congressional requirement on citizens to purchase something or be fined could be unconstitutional itself.</p>
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		<title>By: realitycheck</title>
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		<dc:creator>realitycheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 02:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is horible to say, but I am just going to say it.... Gawker has ruined Jeffrey Toobin for me, I know I am supose to keep it seperate, but I can&#039;t. Sorry. I am surprised CNN gives him Face time at all. He comes off all Nice Guy, but Seriouly. I can&#039;t take him serioulsy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is horible to say, but I am just going to say it&#8230;. Gawker has ruined Jeffrey Toobin for me, I know I am supose to keep it seperate, but I can&#8217;t. Sorry. I am surprised CNN gives him Face time at all. He comes off all Nice Guy, but Seriouly. I can&#8217;t take him serioulsy.</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
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		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then again, the Supreme Court is conservative right now. Wouldn&#039;t be surprised if they continue with their activist rulings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then again, the Supreme Court is conservative right now. Wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if they continue with their activist rulings.</p>
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		<title>By: same2u</title>
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		<dc:creator>same2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering how many times the Republicans have used it themselves, this should come as no surprise.

What is not surprising either, is the despicable way the Republicans and their little unethical minion have distorted the truth about this procedure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering how many times the Republicans have used it themselves, this should come as no surprise.</p>
<p>What is not surprising either, is the despicable way the Republicans and their little unethical minion have distorted the truth about this procedure.</p>
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		<title>By: rmbltmbl</title>
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		<dc:creator>rmbltmbl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and the people will not understand when the politician says, I didn&#039;t vote for that bill.. I voted on something else that passed that bill.  With the hell to pay in November(no matter what), they can&#039;t hide behind this anyway.  As with most of what the left has done the past year, &#039;bad news for the Republicans&#039; may be arguable as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and the people will not understand when the politician says, I didn&#8217;t vote for that bill.. I voted on something else that passed that bill.  With the hell to pay in November(no matter what), they can&#8217;t hide behind this anyway.  As with most of what the left has done the past year, &#8216;bad news for the Republicans&#8217; may be arguable as well.</p>
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		<title>By: TylerDurdin</title>
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		<dc:creator>TylerDurdin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toobin is a shill for BHO so this is not a surprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toobin is a shill for BHO so this is not a surprise.</p>
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		<title>By: AnonymousFinch</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnonymousFinch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toobin is mostly right, but with an important caveat. There was an earlier constitutional challenge to deem and pass, and it failed. However, the court (I think it was the D.C. Circuit if I remember correctly) did not reach the constitutionality of deem and pass. Rather, it dismissed the case based on the &quot;political question&quot; doctrine, which is a form of abstention that essentially says that the federal courts will not delve into the internal procedures of a co-equal branch of government.

In other words, the court did not say deem and pass is unconstitutional. Rather, it said that it did not have the constitutional power to rule on the constitutionality of an internal congressional procedure. As a practical matter, the result is the same: a lawsuit won&#039;t work. But is worth noting that each member of Congress swears an oath to the Constitution, so, if only as a matter of their oath, it is worth debating whether deem and pass is constitutional.

As for the constitutionality of the underlying bill, Toobin is probably right. The commerce clause power has been read so expansively in the past that it is probably going to be deemed broad enough to support the legislation here. I, for one, think that the commerce clause jurisprudence took a turn for the worst during the New Deal (particularly with a case called Wickard v Filburn), but unless the Supreme Court is willing to revisit those New Deal precedents, that&#039;s not going to be corrected. As a practical matter, I doubt there are even 4 votes on the current Supreme Court that would be willing to revisit those cases.  It may be worth a try, but I wouldn&#039;t get my hopes up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toobin is mostly right, but with an important caveat. There was an earlier constitutional challenge to deem and pass, and it failed. However, the court (I think it was the D.C. Circuit if I remember correctly) did not reach the constitutionality of deem and pass. Rather, it dismissed the case based on the &#8220;political question&#8221; doctrine, which is a form of abstention that essentially says that the federal courts will not delve into the internal procedures of a co-equal branch of government.</p>
<p>In other words, the court did not say deem and pass is unconstitutional. Rather, it said that it did not have the constitutional power to rule on the constitutionality of an internal congressional procedure. As a practical matter, the result is the same: a lawsuit won&#8217;t work. But is worth noting that each member of Congress swears an oath to the Constitution, so, if only as a matter of their oath, it is worth debating whether deem and pass is constitutional.</p>
<p>As for the constitutionality of the underlying bill, Toobin is probably right. The commerce clause power has been read so expansively in the past that it is probably going to be deemed broad enough to support the legislation here. I, for one, think that the commerce clause jurisprudence took a turn for the worst during the New Deal (particularly with a case called Wickard v Filburn), but unless the Supreme Court is willing to revisit those New Deal precedents, that&#8217;s not going to be corrected. As a practical matter, I doubt there are even 4 votes on the current Supreme Court that would be willing to revisit those cases.  It may be worth a try, but I wouldn&#8217;t get my hopes up.</p>
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		<title>By: mcf1757</title>
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		<dc:creator>mcf1757</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The voice of reason yet again, Thanks CNN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The voice of reason yet again, Thanks CNN!</p>
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