Americans protest by day and go home at night. Also, no rioting.

OK, unions like to riot, but generally Americans don’t.

When I read the article, I said to myself – that is kind of a misleading headline.  It is not the main point that Powell made.

Yes, Colin. What’s more American in your world than murder, rape ,theft , drugs, destruction of private property, Molotov cocktails, broken legs, bricks thrown at police, etc. ?

Powell is clueless…

PAULIE THE PHILISTINE SAYS:

“Americans protest by day and go home at night.”

TO WHICH THE REAL ROYAL EMPEROR RESPONDS:

That explains why there are never any candlelight vigils in America.

And, how is this different than Philadelphia, Memphis or Denver on any given night?

What Powel meant was protesting/demonstrating is as American as apple pie…as long as its not the Tea Party. Then it is nothing but racist violence.

Ah, so urban violence is the message. That’s handy information.

No, sometimes our resident drama queen, Big Petty, needs to be planted a bit. He tends to flitter  and flutter about.

OWS really needs to focus on Washington, I would ask how is it that the banks have tightened credit to the point that they are not loaning money, but they are again making huge profits?  BOA just posted quarterly profits of $7.2 billion.  The problem is is that the largest banks are holding and still buying the federal debt. We hear so much about China as being our big creditor but the fact is is that China owns less than $1 trillion of our debt that is quickly approaching $15 trillion…  China is not the major purchaser of our debt, it is the banks and large financial institutions on Wall Street, and worse they are doing it with our money…  That is the insanity of the whole situation and that is why nothing changes, the government needs the banks because they integral to the 3 card monte game which enables the funding of our deficit spending.  

The Fed cannot just print money and purchase federal debt, that is prohibited by law, so what the fed does is makes vast sums of newly printed money available to the banks in extremely low interest loans in the range of very close to 0 interest, which the banks use to purchase treasuries that yield 3% interest…  The federal government whores itself and our country to satisfy it’s insatiable appetite for deficit spending.  The relationship between the Wall Street banks, the Fed, and the Treasury threatens our republic and this is something that we on both sides of the aisle should pay more attention to.  Then rather than just complain about big business purchasing influence in DC maybe they should realize that it is not just big business purchasing influence but Washington sells itself to the highest bidder from no matter the political objective.  The culprits here are our legislators, the Treasury, and the Fed…  This should be the focus of the protests, the Banks and large business are just reacting to the opportunities that DC presents to them.  Fix the government so that it can fix the nation.  

Powell could not have put it more eloquently. He continues to be the only sane Republican at a national level who I could imagine as president and feel good about it. Unfortunately for the GOP, they’re obsessed with pandering to the Norbits and Michelles of the world, which is why it’s no longer a credible political organization. but a clubhouse for crackpots.

Pablo, is there anything good about the left in this country? Your posts are so predictable and tiresome. You go out of your way and to ridiculous lengths to insult half of the American electorate. That’s why the majority of Americans despise your rhetoric and that of your mentors on talk radio and Fox News.

You ARE NOT a critical thinker. If you were, you’d find some commonality with the left and middle. Something you’re unwilling or intellectually unable to do.

Grow up!

The “twinkle fingers” are nice touch , no ?

Your posts are so predictable and tiresome. You go out of your way and
to ridiculous lengths to insult half of the American electorate. That’s
why the majority of Americans despise your rhetoric and that of your
mentors on talk radio and Fox News.

You ARE NOT a critical
thinker. If you were, you’d find some commonality with the left and
middle. Something you’re unwilling or intellectually unable to do.

Grow up!

There are thoughtful, patriotic, smart conservatives out there somewhere. They’re just being drowned out by the stupids that post on this and other sites. I miss William F. Buckley, a true conservative that could go toe-to-toe with liberals in an intelligent manner. He’s been replaced by college drop-outs Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck. That’s who’s leading a once great political party right off the cliff. Whigs anyone?

Pot meet kettle…

Lol!! You’re kidding, right??

This idiot is the Black version of Jimmy Carter.

Powell is right and is living proof that there still are a few Republicans left out there who won’t shy away from their intelligence in order to pander to the extremists in the Republicon Party!!

Colon Bowel: Liar & war-monger. Shame be upon him forever.

Wow I missed that comment in the video clip and no matter how I tried I couldn.t twist Powell’s words into what you came up with.  You must be a journolist…..

Dope affects these fiends in predictable ways. After a puff or two on a reefer, their eyes turn black, they begin to play the piano frantically, then jump out of the window, laughing all the way to the ground.

I saw this in a documentary and that’s how it works.

Yeah and your liberal buddies NEVER to that.  Your Faux outrage is humorous.

Protest occurs in context that includes opposition. Also a very American reality.

Or at the Real Royal Fabulous All Male Hair Salon when you give some poor sap a bad ‘do .

So, you are admitting that you and your Goose-Stepping Compatriots are not critical thinkers? 

Stop playing the false equivalency game Miss Smells. You’re the worst and most ridiculous chucklehead on this or any other site on the Internet. Your ignorance and hate are astounding. You should be ashamed of yourself (or at least your cyber stench). 

I think that the rise of Limbaugh brought on the death of civility and the end of conservatism as a serious movement. After he garnered huge audiences with his boorishness and fact-free rants, intellectual engagement — and cooperation — between the two sides went down the tubes. And all the other idiots you mentioned hopped on the crazy train to make their fortunes appealing to the pitchfork mobs. (Who knows if they even believe most of the nonsense they’re spouting?)

I miss WFB, too. He was someone whose arguments could be admired, even when you may not have agreed with him. How could any sentient being “admire” Glenn Beck or Sean Hannity? What the f–k have they contributed to America other than to make idiocy a new religion?

OK…your logic is entirely flawed.  The comparison of the year seems to be OWS and the Tea Party.  (not candlelight vigils and anything else).  I don’t know where Powell was on the Tea Party, if he opined at all.  But if he wasn’t as circumspect there as he is here, it’s insight as to where his heart and mind are.

And the answer is “Yes” RRE. She’s a predictable moron. I think it’s Malkin based on the asinine nature of her posts.

What have I said that is hateful?

Uncle Tom Powell Stumps for Massah Bush

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/04/12/23778/-Uncle-Tom-Powell-Stumps-for-Massah-Bush

Pablo,
     You seem to be getting all the replies.  It’s fine to focus on the initial goals of a protest (I should say deduced goals because there was no coherent statement at the outset).  But, it’s not unreasonable to expect that to be accompanied by a condemnation of truly bad and sometimes vilent or criminal behavior in pursuit of those goals. 
     The conclusion many are drawing is OWS’ main argument is ‘life isn’t fair’ and their main tool for righting that impossible wrong is intimidation. 

You’re one hundred and 10 percent correct. It all went to hell with the end of the fairness doctrine. This type of partisan divisiveness was brought to you by the Reagan/Bush administration as a means of questioning truth tellers. Anyone remember what Spiro Agnew said about the media? Nattering Nabobs of Negativity. That’s the media’s job to hold bastards like that to account. And that’s why the right hates the media. The truth has a liberal bias.

A few strong points here.

We have a very complex problem but just paying down the debt doesn’t solve the problem. We now have a system that is completely dependent on Federal Reserve system and the “safety” of T-Bills.

You can read the full paper on the proposal to deal with paying down the full debt written in the days when that was still a possibility. Life After the Debt

“In the year 2000, the U.S. Treasury began actively buying back the public debt; we should all appreciate the tremendous achievement this represents for the Nation as a whole. As the previous section described there are good reasons for our current fiscal discipline and the public savings that accompany it to continue. We must realize however, that a sharp reduction in Federal debt and the possible accumulation of a Federal asset raises at least three important issues. First, investors looking for an asset free of credit risk can no longer count on an abundant supply of U.S. Treasury securities, and Treasury securities may no longer provide a reliable benchmark for other interest rates. Second, the Federal Reserve may have to change the mechanisms by which it conducts monetary policy. Third, continued surpluses after the public debt has been paid of f will require the Federal. government to acquire assets; either directly or though the Social Security Trust Fund. This raises issues about what kinds of assets might be acquired, and the best way to manage this task.”

And here’s a good example of the problem:

For example: What do you do with the money that comes out of people’s paychecks for Social Security? Now, a lot of that money gets invested in –- you guessed it — Treasury bonds. If there are no Treasury bonds, what do you invest it in? Stocks? Which stocks? Who picks?

So solving the problem is more difficult than it appears. Without a safe haven for cash in T-Bills there will be more volatility and risk in the private markets, perhaps requiring still more regulation and transparency.

But before you condemn just the Government for this mess, look out for the BIG FINANCIAL BUSINESS nervously licking their chops in hopes that we turn over our financial investments over to them. 

This is their FANTASY-DREAM, the US people falling for the idea of moving social security funding into the private sector. Global markets, led by Wall St, would suddenly find itself awash with trillions of dollars in new assets requiring better than inflation rates of returns. This would stoke a very dangerous fire and create a huge potential for the pigs to feed on the trough of personal savings accounts. Maybe the free marke could work BUT their first interest is to their investors and stock holders – NOT the citizens who have entrusted them with their life savings for retirement.

The housing crisis was sparked by $1.4 trillion in mortgages. This move would turn over a trust fund nearly double that amount – $2.6 trillion

I wish I could say I knew what the answer is but I can say that 30-second talking points do not make the grade and most of the “Cap, Cut and Balance” approach doesn’t even begin to answer the question of what happens when you turn over trillions of freed-up GDP from the stewardship of the duly elected Representative Government bound to the social contract we call the Constitution to a Multinational Financial Company with interests properly aligned first and foremost to shareholders over the interests of the United States citizens. 

We have to keep asking questions and stop listening to talking points put out by partisan politicians looking to score a debate point,or special interest PACs looking to create ginned up controversies that turn our own family and friends against each other. 

“We the People” is more than a catch phrase or a bumper sticker. It is a social contract and we have to take our Government back from special interests and question the types of people who bound themselves to third-party pledges produced by private interests over the wishes of the people. 

Political parties are not serving us well and the hateful rhetoric found on this blog and many more places online, only proves that the game of distraction is more important than the goal of cooperations and shared interest of the people of the United States. The people who are seeking to turn us all against ourselves are winning.

We have to modernize our Representative process so that layers that separate us from our Government begin to disappear and we have to hold Representatives to more comprehensive common goals over the special interests that keep them fed on a diet of campaign contributions, special favors and wealth upon retirement.

We need to kick the special interests out of the People’s House – Congress – and we need to reform our voting system so that absolutely all campaigns are publicly funded. This might be a start and might end the power of the parties and the special interests over our interests.

Hey Colin, here’s the new anthem for OWS.  It’s as American as apple pie:

Our canvas is freedom

Your blood is our paint [...]
Like a pig you consumed

And like a pig you will roast [...]
And what you won’t share
Will be ripped from your hands
Your body destroyed
The way fire lands
Burning your homes
The privilege you snake
The payback beyond
Anything you could take
Naked you’ll be
And full of regret
And the way they were treated
You’ll long to forget

When have you EVER criticized a conservative? EVER? That’s partisan hackery — not thoughtful debate.

In regards to ‘going home’, you clearly have never read about the Bonus Army.

It’s time for him ” to just fade away.”

You didn’t answer the question.  But I won’t hold that against you, I’ve ask all of liberal buddies to back up their claims that I’m a hateful racist and they haven’t been able to either.  Before you make claims in the future, make sure you can back them up.  Just some friendly advice. 

“OK, unions like to riot, but generally Americans don’t.”

Do you know the history of Samuel Adams – a member of the First Continental Congress?

With the tea ships about to arrive, Adams and the Boston Committee of Correspondence contacted nearby committees to rally support. When the tea ship Dartmouth arrived in the Boston Harbor in late November, Adams wrote a circular letter calling for a mass meeting to be held at Faneuil Hall on November 29. Thousands of people arrived, so many that the meeting was moved to the larger Old South Meeting House. On December 16—the last day of the tea ships unloading deadline—about 7,000 people had gathered around the Old South Meeting House.

While Adams tried to reassert control of the meeting, people poured out of the Old South Meeting House and headed to Boston Harbor. That evening, a group of 30 to 130 men, some of them thinly disguised as Mohawk Indians, boarded the three vessels and, over the course of three hours, dumped all 342 chests of tea into the water. 

Adams never revealed if he went to the wharf to witness the destruction of the tea. Whether or not he helped plan the event is unknown, but Adams immediately worked to publicize and defend it. He argued that the Tea Party was not the act of a lawless mob, but was instead a principled protest and the only remaining option the people had to defend their constitutional rights.

In response to the “Coercive Acts” and other economic sanction by the British, Adams served as moderator of the Boston Town Meeting to organize an economic boycott of British goods.

So by Americans do you mean those who played a key role in civil disobedience, created conditions for open rebellion, demanded economic boycotts and may have played a role in the felonious destruction of private property?

The American Revolution was not a peaceful protest, it took arms against its own citizens and created a dangerous mob mentality in a number of cities until finally leading up to a full-on War.

Here’s what he had to say at the time:

“If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” — Samuel Adams

Hmm, love wealth more than liberty… lick the (British) hands the feeds you … you might put some of the organizers of the American Revolution as more in line with the OWS crowd than with any other protest movement these days.

You can disagree but to suggest that they are out of line with the Founding Fathers or “Americans” is not being very true to history and facts.

BTW: I’m a SAR, FFV and Mayflower Society Member, and a fierce supporter of American Democracy.

Wow, that’s some critical thinking you got going on.  Looks like you are going out of your way to insult someone who’s ideology is opposed to yours.  Quite tiresome, really it is.  “Miss Smells”  now that’s soooo grown up, perhaps I should say….ignorant.  “cyber stench”  down right hateful. 

Admit it, you are hateful, ignorant, partisan hack!

Colin Powell is a fucking great American. Why do the greats never run for President? I don’t think a single person could find a decent reason to vote against Colin. He rides the lines of politics very well and he has the gravitas to actually join legislative factions and get laws passed.

California: Dem Mayor Skips Veterans Day Event To Attent Occupy Rally…

Glad he has his priorities in order.

The Uncle Tom Dilemma

Are Blacks Like Colin Powell Asking African Americans to Sell Out?

http://www.villagevoice.com/2000-08-15/news/the-uncle-tom-dilemma/

Powell’s civilian awards include two Presidential Medals of Freedom, the President’s Citizens Medal, the Congressional Gold Medal, the Secretary of State Distinguished Service Medal, the Secretary of Energy Distinguished Service Medal, and the Ronald Reagan Freedom Award. Several schools and other institutions have been named in his honor and he holds honorary degrees from universities and colleges across the country.

In 1988, Powell received the Academy of Achievement’s Golden Plate Award.

In 1991, Powell was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President George H. W. Bush.

In 1991, Powell was inducted into the Horatio Alger Association of Distinguished Americans,[81] which “honors the achievements of outstanding individuals in U.S. society who have succeeded in spite of adversity and of encouraging young people to pursue their dreams through higher education.”

On September 30, 1993, Powell was awarded his second Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton.

On November 9, 1993, Powell was awarded the second Ronald Reagan Freedom Award, by President Ronald Reagan. Powell served as Reagan’s National Security Advisor from 1987-1989.

On December 15, 1993, Colin Powell was created an honorary Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath by Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom.

In 1998, he was awarded the prestigious Sylvanus Thayer Award by the United States Military Academy for his commitment to the ideals of “Duty, Honor, Country.”

The 2002 Liberty Medal was awarded to Colin Powell on July 4 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. In his acceptance speech, Powell reminded Americans that “It is for America, the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, to help freedom ring across the globe, unto all the peoples thereof. That is our solemn obligation, and we will not fail.”

The Coat of Arms of Colin Powell was granted by the Lord Lyon in Edinburgh on February 4, 2004. Technically the grant was to Powell’s father (a British subject) to be passed on by descent. Scotland’s King of Arms is traditionally responsible for granting arms to Commonwealth citizens of Scottish descent. Blazoned as:

Azure, two swords in saltire points downwards between four mullets Argent, on a chief of the Second a lion passant Gules. On a wreath of the Liveries is set for Crest the head of an American bald-headed eagle erased Proper. And in an escrol over the same this motto, “DEVOTED TO PUBLIC SERVICE.”

The swords and stars refer to the former general’s career, as does the crest, which is the badge of the 101st Airborne (which he served as a brigade commander in the mid-1970s). The lion may be an allusion to Scotland. The shield can be shown surrounded by the insignia of an honorary Knight Commander of the Most Honorable Order of the Bath (KCB), an award the General received after the first Gulf War.

In 2005 Powell received the Bishop John T. Walker Distinguished Humanitarian Service Award for his contributions to Africa.

AARP honored Powell with the 2006 AARP Andrus Award, the Association’s highest honor. This award, named in honor of AARP’s founder, Dr. Ethel Percy Andrus, is presented biennially to distinguished individuals who have generated positive social change in the world, and whose work and achievements reflect AARP’s vision of bringing lifetimes of experience and leadership to serve all generations.

In 2005 Colin and Alma Powell were awarded the Woodrow Wilson Award for Public Service by the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars of the Smithsonian Institution.
Colin Powell was initiated as an honorary brother in Sigma Phi Epsilon.
Powell is a recipient of the Silver Buffalo Award, the highest adult award given by the Boy Scouts of America.

A street in Gelnhausen, Germany was named after him: “General-Colin-Powell-Straße”.[84]
In 2002, scholar Molefi Kete Asante listed Colin Powell on his list of 100 Greatest African Americans.

In 2009, an elementary school named for Colin Powell opened in El Paso. It is in the El Paso Independent School District, located on Fort Bliss property, and serves a portion of Fort Bliss. There is also a street in El Paso named for Powell, Colin Powell Drive.

Powell is an Honorary Board Member of the humanitarian organization Wings of Hope[86]

Since 2006, he is the chairman of the Board of Trustees for Eisenhower Fellowships

“In the days of slavery, there were those slaves who lived on the plantation and [there] were those slaves that lived in the house. You got the privilege of living in the house if you served the master … exactly the way the master intended to have you serve him. Colin Powell’s committed to come into the house of the master. When Colin Powell dares to suggest something other than what the master wants to hear, he will be turned back out to pasture.”

— Harry Belafonte

I’m now convinced you are too dumb to see the total irony of ALL of your comments.

Shy away from their intelligence in order to ……”  Whatevah, puppy dog.  Powell was the one that insisted, after the four days in a CIA bunker, that the main thrust for the war in Iraq would be WMD.  Then he has sat back and let the blame fall on everyone else.

The Valerie Plame fiasco was another blemish/scar on the reputation of Colin Powell.  His deputy leaked Plame’s name yet, Powell and Armitage knew Libby didn’t leak it and sat back and let Libby get trapped and convicted on a charge that had nothing to do with Valerie Plame.  That fraud could have ended before it began, but big Colin Powell did not have the balls to stand up and tell the truth.

Not to surprising you’d  hold him in esteem.

Colin Powell has been taking his share of flack over the last year. African American celebrities have come right out and accused him of being a House Negro and an Uncle Tom. After Mr. Powell’s speech at the UN today, I no longer think he’s an Uncle Tom.

I KNOW he’s an Uncle Tom.

Every time it’s been pointed out to you, you conveniently ignore it. I’ve tagged plenty of your posts that have a deeply angry, vitriolic and hyper-partisan screaming quality. But somehow you never are able to defend them. 

Yes, because it’s the mission of the GOP to run away from its last few intelligent, thoughtful leaders. 

Translation: RINO. 

Um, no you haven’t, I have never been in the GOP.  Nice try though!

Exactly right. (And if you had any doubts, Michelle disagrees, which is the proof of the pudding.) 

[S]ome of the things that the Tea Party movement is asking for are not achievable. 

Solving that “algebraic equation” is also what concerns Powell about the Tea Party movement. He said the movement will put pressure on Republicans and Democrats.

But “it’s not doable to say we want to cut spending, we want to reduce the deficit, but we don’t want to increase revenue,” Powell said.

Nevertheless, Powell said, he still considers himself a Republican.

“Yes, why shouldn’t I?” Powell said Sunday, adding that he hasn’t thought about leaving the party.

“I still think that there is a need for a two-party system,” Powell said. “And that the Republican Party still has strength in it. It has strength with respect to its feelings about foreign policy and defense policy and our place in the world. And I’m not happy with the rightward switch, [the] shift that the party has taken. And I’ve said this on many occasions.

“And so, I’m not about to give up,” he said.

Powell also leveled some criticism at the GOP for embracing positions that are hostile to immigrants.

“They’ve got to take a hard look at some of the positions they’ve been taking,” Powell said.

“We can’t be anti-immigration, for example. Because immigrants are fueling this country. Without immigrants [the U.S.] would be like Europe or Japan, with an aging population and no young people coming in to take care of it. We have to educate our immigrants.”

She played the race card early and publicly against George W Bush, the Republican candidate, and in the most controversial way: she accused former General Colin Powell, one of the most famous and respected black Americans, and Republican Congressman J C Watts of being Uncle Tom figures. “Republicans bring out Colin Powell and J C Watts because they have no program, no policy,” she said in an interview with Bloomberg.

Donna Brazile, Al Gore’s Campaign Manager for the 2000 election

Wow! You cite an article that was inspired by the Clinton era coming close to balancing our Federal budget.  That is like pointing to an Indian Summer as proof that our global temps have risen some 15 to 20 degrees over a 3 year period.  First off one of the biggest sins our government has ever committed was the purchase of Federal Treasuries with the Social Security Trust fund as now there really the Trust fund contains no more than an accounting gimmick as it’s reserve.  The fact is that the federal government will have to create new borrowing to pay beneficiaries using those same reserve funds that should be on deposit.  Hence the “Ponzi Scheme” reference so many use when the speak about what has happened with Social Security.  The Fund holds some $ 2.4 trillion in “Special Securities” that are not marketable.  How can you borrow money from yourself, the fact is that rather than borrow money from the money markets to fund federal activities, they raided the SS trust fund and left these fancy interest bearing IOU’s as the fund is nothing more than an line item on a balance sheet and as the Federal Government already borrows 43 cents of every dollar it spends it is clear that it is incapable of repayment of the fund as it has no convertible resources with which to do so.  

If nothing else the fund should have been put on deposit with the reserve system as the banks do with their excess reserves where it could earn actual interest even if at a much lower rate as the fund would still actually exist.  How is it that the president can threaten seniors with the inability to cut their checks if there is 2.4 trillion dollars in the trust fund?  The fact is plain and simply that there is not…  simply a line on a balance sheet of a bankrupted federal government.  

Secondly your response does little to address the collusion between the Federal Government, the Fed, and the private Banking system that has much to much control and influence over our government.  The government can not fund itself without the say so and participation of the large banks, and the large banks will not buy the treasuries that the federal government needs to sell without incentives coming from the Fed…  Interest rates given to only the largest banks that are much lower than the official discount rate so that these banks will use this borrowed taxpayer money to purchase the treasuries that they will eventually sell back to the Fed at a hefty profit.  

If you want to stop undue lobbying and influence in congress a good place to start is the repeal of the 17th amendment…  The senate should never have been exposed to such influence and the founders were smart enough to know this. 

This OWS movement is as American as borscht. I guess rape, rampant drug use and using the streets of New York as a toilet are All-American too? Maybe they are.

You’re willing to cut some slack to the rest of the Bush Administration for going to War based on faulty intelligence, but yet, you think Powell doesn’t deserve to be afforded the same?? Wasn’t he given the same faulty intelligence as everyone has claimed to have gotten??

Also, you’re the first person I have ever heard saying anything about Powell’s “deputy” being the person to leak Plame’s name… if you have a link to provide, I would be very interested in reading it!! 

Singer Harry Belafonte is holding his ground and on Tuesday refused to back down from his remarks last week calling Secretary of State Colin Powell a house ni**er in the Bush administration. Belafonte said his problems are not with the man but with the policies Powell is supporting.

http://www.blacknewsweekly.com/201.html

” I don’t know that they are viewed as  “house negroes” , in the term . I believe that they are in the house and the rest of us are in the field . So , it would not be an inaccurate description . “

Al Sharpton’s response to a question regarding whether or not Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell are “house negros.”

http://videosift.com/video/Al-Sharpton-House-Negro-not-inaccurate-for-GOP

Let me be clear. I NEVER called you racist EVAH! I did call you hateful because you obviously HATE any liberal position — even if it benefits you. In logic this fallacy is called “attack the messenger.” Perhaps contrarian would be a better term to describe you and your ilk. Here are some examples of your ridiculousness and hate for fellow Americans exercising their rights:

“Yeah and your liberal buddies NEVER to that.  Your Faux outrage is humorous. (this is classic deflection and also a great example of false equivalency–two wrongs don’t make a right).”

“Let’s see the cuts first.  Conservatives aren’t stupid enough to just believe it when the Dems say they will make cuts.” (Last balanced budget under a Dem president that was vilified and impeached by your side as was his wife)

“Wrong, I’ve repeatedly say I don’t defend ANYONE who abuses another
person.  Unlike you liberals who love the rapist known as Bill Clinton.
(That’s called libel and defamation sweetie–totally unfounded unless your reliable sources include Rush and his uneducated ilk).

Need more proof?

Haha, those comments prove I’m hateful?  Just as I suspected.  And my “source” that Clinton is a rapist is his victim, Juanita Broderick.  But I’m not surprised you would defend him. 

That is an excellent example. There are many others, but this is paramount. I really appreciate your sense of history.

I tend to think that bat-poop krazy Malkin is her inspiration, as well. Michelle-in-Utah is desperate to bear Lard Limbaugh’s heir, to be sure, despite the old biological clock having wound down, but even LL doesn’t stoop to thorough, plain, pervasive meanness of these two (2) women.

Michelle-in-Utah says:

— Um, no you haven’t, I have never been in the GOP.  Nice try though!

RRE responds:

— What?

What’s your point? Al Sharpton speaks for a tiny minority of Americans. 

They are doing a very good job of it, you have to admit. My Dear Mother, of fond memory, would have been shocked at the sheer lunacy at Thursday’s debate. I think a cow brain transplant would help them all. Most grocery stores in Texas sell cow brains, so I’d be happy to send some.

For the past 3 years Colin Powell seems to be trying to make up for all the years he was labelled an Uncle Tom by the left. I’m pretty sure the left adores him now, and the people of the black community who used to despise him.

OK you want to blame the messenger for the thoughts about what happens if we balance the budget. Don’t shoot the messager, read the report. It is very interesting and well thought out. The mechanism of US debt are fully integrated in the Global financial markets and unwinding them will be very difficult to achieve.

The solution to Social Security Trust Fund is vexing on a good day but turning over the trust to private interest would not create a more ideal solution. Fractional reserves are the dangers of a private market mechanism. The multipliers on this money would be very real and the temptation for massive financial shenanigans would be a very real danger to global markets.

Perhaps we need to consider two federal budgets, one for Social Security and one for General Operations. The accounting trick has always been in place so this spending from it is nothing new. 

Raising revenues to meet obligations and reducing spending are priority.

As for Global Warming – Read the this report - the US Military has strategic concerns that are very real.

Collusion – yes I think we know that there is a major problem but creating a “safe haven” for capital is an essential part of capitalism, and as for further issues with collusion that is why special interest are a threat to Democracy.

The 17th amendment… you think that turning the power to elect a representative is a more appropriate solution than public funding for all Federal campaigns.

You understand that repealing the 17th amendment puts a bounty on every state house by special interests who can walk away with elections for a fraction of the cost of a Federal election?

You just gave the special interest a deep discount on the purchase and control of Congress. That is pouring gasoline on the fire.

He absolutely despises our troops.

Thanks patsy!

Don’t sweat it, Royal Dimwit, a lot of things go over your head.

rofl

Flawed. Nicely put.

““I still think that there is a need for a two-party system,” Powell said. ”

I agree entirely, but there’s a point at which one has to come to terms with the fact that your party has become hostage to an increasingly unserious and reckless mob of zealots. More power to him if he can cope with that, but I would have thought he’d have woken up and smelled the crazy by now.

“OK, unions like to riot, but generally Americans don’t.”

Except when their Coach gets fired for covering up buggery. 

Is Colin Powell one of Ann Coulter’s Blacks?

Thank you Miss Smells. Coming from you I consider it the greatest of compliments since anything you write or say has absolutely no value.

Fighting fire with fire. If ya’ll can dish it tout han you should be able to take it as well. Whiners!

To Miss Smells. You wrote

And my “source” that Clinton is a rapist is his victim, Juanita Broderick.  But I’m not surprised you would defend him.

Happy you wrote that. All the Cain women are liars and plants. But Anita Broderick speaks truth–even tho Clinton was never convicted of anything other than having consensual relations with Lewinsky. Typical Con!

When did I say the Cain accusers were liars and plants?

I agree entirely, but there’s a point at which one has to come to terms
with the fact that your party has been taken over by an increasingly
unserious and reckless mob of zealots.

And if you didn’t notice them trashing Oakland and shutting down commerce, or persistently doing that mind-bendingly pathetic human microphone nonsense, you’re not paying attention.

Is there anything good about the right in this country? Prove your superiority.

As for the left, many of them mean well.

The Tea Party was not a riot. They dumped the tea…and then they went home.

College kids these days, huh?

Just look at all these Deep Thoughts.

The spirit and intellect of the left…

Can it be that it was all so simple then? Or has time rewritten every line? If we had the chance to do it all again, tell me, would we? Could we?

:-)

Just shows what you have been taught to think.
Why would this guy who DID NOT want to go to war want to discredit them, or promote WMD?

Wait, I thought this was the anthem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vlMVazw_vUE

Resist we much!

http://tinyurl.com/75tbylm

“It isn’t enough just to scream at the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations. We need our political system to start reflect this anger back into, ‘How do we fix it? How do we get the economy going again?’”

We have that in the Tea Party. Look at what they accomplished in 2010!

The only disconnect was the outright DISHONEST & DUPLICITOUS way the Democrats – and THEIR MEDIA! – portrayed the Tea Party compared to their gushing portrayal of these OWS anarchists.

The Left-Wing media erodes more & more of their once formidable credibility and influence by the moment – and don’t believe everyone is as dense or ignorant as the Democratic Base!

LMAO!

Here a list of all the riots held in the colonies from 1641 -1759

Stamp Act Riots

In Massachusetts, rioters ransacked the home of the newly appointed stamp commissioner, Andrew Oliver. He resigned the position the next day. 

Threatening or attacking the Crown-appointed office-holders became a popular tactic against the act throughout the colonies. Though no stamp commissioner was actually tarred and feathered, this Medieval brutality was a popular form of 18th century mob violence in Great Britain, particularly against tax collectors. 

Tarring and feathering dated back to the days of the Crusades and King Richard the Lionhearted. It began to appear in New England seaports in the 1760s and was most often used by patriot mobs against loyalists. Tar was readily available in shipyards and feathers came from any handy pillow. Though the cruelty invariably stopped short of murder, the tar needed to be burning hot for application.

The Boston Masacre – Deaths resulted

Lexington-Concord – Start of the war was a march on men and arms being held to meet the British with aggressive force – deaths resulted.

Food Rioters and the American Revolution – On more than 30 occasions between 1776 and 1779, American men and women gathered in crowds to confront hoarding merchants, intimidate “unreasonable” storekeepers, and seize scare commodities ranging from sugar to tea to bread – read the rest in the link.

Valley Forge – Camping out in protest of the British in armed rebellion – deaths resulted

I can keep listing open rebellious insurrection against the Government by colonists that combined all forms of camping out and riots.You might want to stop whitewashing your version of American History. This was an agressive, in your face rebellion that caused death, destruction of property and the open challenge of class, allegiances and political beliefs.

This is not a Disneyland version of Liberty – this is what really happened.

You deflect, you do not address the theft of the social security trust fund, why is it that the federal securities in the fund “special treasuries” that are non-marketable?  The fund cannot sell those instruments into the private sector which means that they are nothing more than IOU’s.  A theft of 2.4 trillion dollars made legal only because of whom it was that perpetuated that theft.  Your response is that it is something that has gone on for a long time.  Well no kidding so let’s just not talk about it.  My point is that the moneys could be secured in if nothing else an account with the Federal Reserve system that would not expose it to the risks of the commercial banking system.  Granted that the return on the invested fund would be greatly reduced but hey, at least the money would still be there.  The paper you point to “Life after Debt” is as farcical as it is outdated. It was written at a time when there was some thought that the Federal government could somehow buy back it’s debt and no longer have the need to create new debt removing from the money markets what was considered to be one of the most secure instruments in the world, the US treasury bond….  Well some 10 years later and another 10 trillion in debt not only has the article proven to be founded in fantasy, but the US debt has been downgraded and it is not so certain that as our national debt surges to somewhere between 23 and 27 trillion dollars during the next ten years that the article has any basis as the US debt has already been downgraded and it is quite possible that we could begin to look like Greece and Italy rendering our bonds to junk status.  

Beyond that when I referenced global warming it was not to open the topic but it was merely an analogy that you possibly missed. 

The repeal of the 17th amendment has done much to destroy the balance of powers between the states and the federal government that was built into our constitution by the framers. The house of representatives was to be the people’s house, the body in the federal government that directly represented the people of our country and their interest, the Senate was to be the body that represented the interest of the States and protected the interest and powers of the states, they were to be appointed by the state’s legislators who would insure that theirs state’s interests were represented in DC.  Repeal has basically made our federal legislator simply the peoples legislator at the cost of State’s rights.  It has also opened up the ability to lobby fewer individuals in more seductive ways to get your interests represented..  You can’t tell me that it is not easier to buy Harry Reid than it is to buy the legislature of Nevada, or for that matter, that the legislature of Nevada would allow itself to be sold out to lobbyists lobbying for the interests of the great state of Florida….  I am sure that individual senators don’t give a crap who is paying the bill and for what cause as long as the bill is being paid, and it does not adversely effect their own interest…  I don’t think that the same claim could be so easily made regarding state legislatures. 

Didn’t he also say that Iraq had weapons of mass-destruction? This guy is about as two-faced as Obimbo.

Why did this man never run for the Republican nomination?  I would have chosen him over 99% of Democrats in a heartbeat!  I guess the party just got too nuts for a sane moderate like him, though.  Lies, hate, and irrational fear-mongering get more votes and more coverage than common sense and moderation…

Shssssss……cant post things like this(TRUTH)…its just not right, its just not right!!!

Colin, always takes the middle of the road. He does make so good points.  I have read all of these COMMENTS.  There is so much hate, insults, and exaturations being hurled.  Let’s  be civil and use FACTS when promoting your take on a subject.

There’s no evidence to support your slander against unions.

I think we are agreeing but you seem to think I’m not. I’m not deflecting I’m agreeing with you on SS trust fund issues.

The Greenspan Commission in 1983 attempted to make some arguments pro and con on the fund. I agree with you that this must be addressed, and now.

There is an irony on how you say the report is no longer valid. Why is it no longer valid? What changed? We were paying down the debt, then we weren’t paying down the debt… something changed.

No I didn’t miss the analogy – just sharing some real concerns from the US Military on the subject.

As for peddling influences. Here is the map of Party Control of State Legislatures today. And here is how the money is spent locally

You can explore all the spending via states and find the same corrupting influences but now you would have to deal with laws in each 50 states instead of a federal law on campaign contributions.

Why not make all Federal elections publicly funded and just see how Democracy works without big money influences from either extreme – right or left?

The original Tea Party was an incident of economic interests using prevailing political sentiment to advance those economic interests.

The tea supply in question originally was to go to England, but was denied admission into England out of fear that it would cause an immediate depression in the price of tea, particularly in tea shops, which would prove in economic terms “sticky”, that is, to last beyond the ability of tea shops to replace supply. So interests worked on their bought-and-paid-for pols in Parliament to deny permission to the supply ships to  unload. The merchant interests that backed the supply ships then secured permission and support from their own bought-and-paid-for pols in the House of Lords and with the King George of that day to re-direct the supply ships full of tea to the American colonies, to be dumped there.

Of course, dumping that much tea on the far smaller and much more localized economies of the American colonies would cause and even greater depression in the price of tea, particularly when the prevailing tea market here had been based on UNDER supply, with relief from American merchant-sponsored piracy. That system had allowed American tea merchants a tremendous amount of leverage over the local colonial markets, with tea being almost a completely fungible asset in the way that American dollars are now. Faced with this threat to their interests, the American tea merchants took advantage of the prevailing political sentiment against remote exercise of power over the colonies to dump the British supply ships’ tea in the harbor, and to ‘blame’ that on patriotic revolutionaries dedicated to seeking proper political representation for the taxes imposed on them by the British Crown and British Parliament. 

America was founded on economic piracy and vandalism, in very much the same way that Britain became   a world power through licensed piracy starting under Queen Elizabeth I. Obviously in both situations the motives involved were not PURELY economic: in the case of England, it was necessary to overcome the constant threat of being invaded or starved out by the Spanish Empire, and in the case of America the Age of Enlightenment from Volaire and others mainly but not exclusively in France had fueled the idea of establishing a republic. But in each case the move would not have worked without the dove-tailing of political motives with economic motives. 

When was Cain convicted of anything?

No, he is NOT!

He always strived to undermine George W. Bush in his totally unearned capacity of Secretary of State.

Proved his true alliance by insanely, loudly and obscenely endorsing 0bama.

A RINO if there ever was one. 

exGOPman, you and your equally as phony cohort kromecom would be bashing William F. Buckley with the same vigor you treat every living conservative, if WFB was alive today.

So quit the phony and totally transparent effort to try to seem reasonable. It simply does not fit the liberal template.

There NEVER was any need for the Fairness Doctrine in the way it was envisioned by Marxist liberals.

There is and there always was equal opportunity for Leftist radio to counteract Limbaugh et al. There was Air America for a thankfully short time. There are still a few surviving leftist radio shows, with dwindling audiences, because just who in the Hell in their right mind would listen to crap spewed by the likes of Ed Schultz, Randi Rhodes, and those two frequent guest clowns on Schultz’s nightly tirades.

But I must give it to you, kromedome! Your heroes ARE the the Nattering Nabobs of Negativity.

When one is a despicable turncoat like Colon Powell, one deserves the scorn of both sides.

Honesty was always simple. Liberals have rewritten every single line in history. Another 0bama term and there never will be chance to do it again. Still could be done.

Leaves only one question: Would we?

November 6th, 2012 will have the answer.

I agree with Colin Powell that protesting is “as American as apple pie”. It is one of, if not the greatest ways to display free speech.
However I missed the part where the rape of minors and murder is covered under free speech. I didn’t get that memo.

As most Democrats. Their parents spat on the returning veterans from Viet Nam, some 40 years ago, called them baby-killers, butchers and killers. Don’t for one second think that the current day Democrats would not do the same, if they thought they could get away with it. It is in their blood.

Reading your post a second time I like your post, you and I are much of the same minds, sorry for not taking the time to fully read it, I looked at the links and did not pay close enough attention to your words.  

IMO reforming Washington is kinda an oxymoron as it is hard to believe that DC will pass legislation that would truly reform the abuses that they benefit from, especially given their history of exempting themselves from the standards that they apply to everyone else. Although I am conservative in my view point I do not think that my party is any more or less corrupt than are the democrats….  but by the same token I feel that the democrats are every bit as corrupt as are the republican politicians.  It is not the party I support, nor their rich benefactors, but rather the principles that the party is supposed to stand for.  I am pretty much just right of center both fiscally and socially with a bit of libertarian mixed in…  My opinion is that there is no balanced budget without enhanced revenues, nor is there a balanced budget without deep spending cuts and reform in DC.  Beyond that each day that we continue our tax current taxing system is almost criminal as the system is ripe with favor and cut outs for special interest, besides I don’t believe that the government should use tax code to influence the markets as it rarely ends well and they almost never go back and fix it…  hence the 70,000+ pages of tax code that no one person could possibly understand.  It was designed for a 20th century economy and hinders our economic efforts in the 21st century, at least that is my opinion.  

I am interested in reading Jack Abramoff’s new book about corruption in DC as he better than most should know how the game is played.  I often feel that our politicians love the way that our country has divided itself into such partisan bickering so that they can do as they will while we berate each other for their crooked governance.

Anyway I will spend sometime on your links, and thanks for the information TC.

He said that he did not “have the fire in the belly”.

What he meant that was that his abdominal cavity lacked another essential component: GUTS!

You left out Krauthammer and George Will.  If you are honest you will also note that the stupids occupy both sides on any political issue, just look through the posts on this site, there are a few good posters here that bring thought and information to their posts, but for the most part both sides do more than their fair share of mud slinging with little reason or basis to do so.  

When was Clinton? Yet Miss Smells called him a rapist!

  I often feel that our politicians love the way that our country has divided itself into such partisan bickering so that they can do as they will while we berate each other for their crooked governance.

AGREED!!!

That’s why I’m saying that if we start with the public funding for campaigns by Constitutional amendment from the States then we can chase the “money lenders” – so to speak – from the temple.

Reforming tax code – an excellent place to start – can’t even begin when every crazy special interest lobbyist flood the Washington DC swamp with favors, financing, sex,… you name it.

If we make it clear that serving in the Congress is not a gateway to more money; Take away all the Campaign finance laws that allow the residual funding from campaigns to trickle back into the personal coffers; We might stand a chance at diminishing the power of special interests and the Political parties themselves. 

It should be very telling to all us that the  number of millionaires in Congress is skewed because no one can afford to run for Congress who doesn’t already have a direct link to money. Having a good idea also means selling your idea to money first, then with check in hand you can then try to win an election. Having a good idea is really beside the point.

Imagine a Republican/Democrat party that was not trying to please all the funding sources but instead had to come up with working ideas for change. They’d be more like a Research Foundation and less like rabid yapping dogs constantly trying to compete for money from special interests.

I’m not a Democrate and I’m not a Republican. I’m desperately trying to find a way to move the discussion towards solving the real issues we have as a Nation.

Most reasonable Americans will likely agree on 80% of the issues. Those last 20% are the ones that keep us focused on the wrong things – reminds me of the scene in Up where the talking dogs keep on shouting Squirrel - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBWrMQVsuak

Thanks for sharing your thoughts – I agree with you.

No, it wasn’t a riot.  It was only grand larceny and involved massive damage to private property.  You know, only a crap load of felonies.

“‘Demonstrating Like This Is As American As Apple Pie’”

First, Colin Powell is a SELL-OUT. He sold out his party and his friend to vote for a man because of the color of his skin. Colin Powell is a political prostitute – he is no longer a Republican. I hope he doesn’t show up at a GOP convention – if I see him I will boo his ass off.

Second, unless the “pie” is loaded with pus, the “Occupy” Nutjobs are starting to smell as bad as their ideas. And now the corpses are starting to pile up. HAHA!

Powell is just like Barry; he takes both sides of any issue.

I’ve spent most of my life and career fighting for goals others told me were unreachable or ‘un-doable’.  So, observations that goals are not reachable carry little weight for me.  I also think ignoring existing immigration law and characterizing anyone who supports border enforcement and prosecution of those flaunting law is anti-immigration…it demeans the citizenship immigrants strive so hard to obtain. 

“Demonstrating like this is as American and apple pie…:…What?

With the corpses piling up, disease spreading, and the increase in violence, he might want to back off a little on that statement.

Mr. Powell stands for NOTHING. He just spews whatever sounds “reasonable” at any particular moment. He’s truly the definition of an empty suit. Nothing here to see folks.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt after remarking that through no fault of his own, he was descended from a number of people who came over on the Mayflower, he said “Remember, remember always that all of us, and you and I especially, are descended from immigrants and revolutionists.”

As a fellow member of the Mayflower Society and FFV I hardily agree with him that we are all immigrants. 

Now how do we adjust the reality of today’s immigration to match our economic reality? Time to get serious about reform.

I see, was it you that brought the Colbert comment up earlier that reality has a liberal bias? Now you say that reality can be skewed based upon opposition.

Is there anything else you want to warp reality to? Maybe like your insane ideology?

She never said that, you just created a straw man for Michelle to attack. How does it feel to use fallacious arguments?

Do not use Firefly references, you soil them.

By the way, what was the basis of the Firefly and Serenity storylines?

LOL!

Nothing more needs to be said about THAT!

They rioted because he got fired. Maybe get your references correct.

And guess what? Franklin called for paying it back for the damage done. I will let you look up whether or not they did. Maybe you doing some research on your own would actually get you to learn something of the founding of this nation.

Geez and Tea!

Taxation with no benefit is the argument of today. You can attempt to equate the two, but the new Tea Party is totally different in reasoning and problems then the original. Back then it was taxation with no representation, now it is taxation with no benefit.

Effective taxation with all of the jurisdictions, is in the neighborhood of 60-75% if you include all types of taxation, including the inflation taxation.

It was not me. Your incorrect detail followed by insult. Every response you send my way is the same. You are either cursed with natural defect or refuse to work very hard. Either way your performance is sad.

Colin Powell: Tea Party Is All Slogans, No Agenda - Huffington Post

Colin Powell: Sarah Palin, Tea Party lack specifics – USA Today

Colin Powell: Tea Party Is All Slogans, No Agenda – NYMAG

As for the left, many of them are, well, mean.

The fact that Franklin sought (and failed) to repay for the damages does not negate the fact that the Boston Tea Party involved criminal mischief and and destruction of private property.  Condescension does not look good on you.

Is covering up rape & sexual assault so they go free to rape more of your friends and fellow protesters “as American as Apple Pie”?

I must have missed in the Declaration of Independence where we declare our allegiance to violent criminals and rapists and are willing to do all we can to make sure they never face any punishment for their actions.

Did the Founding Fathers just forget to put that part in, or is the fact that Portland is now the 4th openly reported Occupy protest that has explicitly stated they will not contact police for rape and sexual assault just another odd coincidence?

I guess I didn’t realize Colin Powell supported rapists and murderers as much as he does.  But to be fair they’ve only had what, 7 deaths so far?

Maybe he’s just really in favor of spreading drug-resistant TB and is willing to accept the rapes as a necessary evil to get a new deadly TB outbreak in Atlanta?

That or he’s willing to whitewash the entire movement, ignore every news report, and wear his rose-colored glasses to avoid any possible unpleasantness… (in other words, he’s stupider than I would have believed possible).

Kramer here’s a direct quote from Ally in Ugly . . .Miss Smells, and I quote:

“Wrong, I’ve repeatedly say I don’t defend ANYONE who abuses another person. Unlike you liberals who love the rapist known as Bill Clinton.”

Now say you’re sorry and go to your room without supper.