One can see why Fox & Friends gets so many viewers while poor Joe gets very few.

Let’s keep in mind that some of the F&F following is from college students in communal television settings who watch F&F because it is so pathetically funny. Douchey and the Gretch have become modern day Connie Chungs in that regard.

I tend to arrive at the office very, very early everyday except Friday. On Friday, I linger and watch Douchey and the Gretch. I l/m/a/o at all the stuff they make up and all the idiotic things they say. I’m still laughing at Douchey’s power outage in the season’s last blizzard when the Gretch said it was shaping up to be a microwave dinner at the Douchey’s. College students love that stuff.

Before I retired, I never had time to blog all day.

Not to take away from the focus of this piece, i.e, media coverage/analysis of the law, but is this really the ‘most sweeping’ immigration legislation in American history?

It seems to me the amnesty legislation of the 1980s affected far more immigrants and Americans and the laws on immigration than this state law.

Other than that, this is a nice overview. See? I don’t always just complain.

>Actual Good Point: “When we go to other countries we show our passports so that’s kind of the way it works.”

…at borders.

Americans shouldn’t need passports in their own country. In Europe you don’t even need passports to travel to other countries anymore.

Wow look at those violent tea party members in Arizona, OPPS, I’m sorry those aren’t tea party people they are left-wing loons complaining about a law that tries to prevent illegal activities.
Do you wonder why we won’t hear about how violent they are and the EXTREME things they are saying?
The MAJORITY of the people in this country do NOT support amnesty.
The majority support English as America’s official language.
The majority oppose Gay Marriage.
The majority oppose Obamacare.
The majority don’t believe humans are causing climate change.
The majority oppose NEW taxes or tax increases.
The majority oppose bigger govenment.
The majority oppose more gun laws.
The majority oppose abortion on demand.
The majority oppose making pot legal.
Yet we have a govenment that opposes the majority opinion.
In November the majority will send them packing.

People from Poland are taking the jobs from Germans because they are willing to for a fraction of what Germans expect and they don’t ask for 2 hour lunch breaks. Why should companies move to another country when they can simply import cheap labor. Liberals help big business and hurt the local worker.

That’s rather the nature of the federation known as the EU, isn’t it?

Arizona ultimately won’t enforce this law because they know that illegal immigrants are the backbone of the American economy.

We all live very cushy lives on the backs of illegal immigrants, that is our dirty not so little secret. If you were to deport every illegal immigrant in America the economy would collapse far faster than any Wall Street firm going bankrupt ever could.

This is smoke and mirrors and nobody wants to discuss the reality of the situation. Ultimately, everyone here in America was once an immigrant, except for the native Americans, who actually should be deporting all of us. They have every right to, since they’re more entitled to be here than any of us.

gordonbloyershow, Where do you get your bullshit info from. You are so wrong it’s unbelievable.

Maybe the rethugs don’t support what you call Amnesty. But not the entire majority of people.

True the people support English.

Gay marriage is 50/50. No Pun Intended.

There is no such thing as Obama Care. The Ins. Co’s still run Ins. But, The policy’s are supported by most people on an individual basis.

Climate Change, your Dead Wrong. 80% agree that the Planet is in big trouble. Now this is where you are screwing with my life and my family and friends lives. The World Cares about this. So I will not let some Jag get away with killing everyone else. So you are Wrong on this one.

Taxes Have Not Increased At All. 95% of people got a Tax Decrease. I did. Unless you made over 250 K. My personal feeling on this is any rich dick should pay out the snout. What really sucks is anyone making over 125K don’t even pay Social Security/Medicare taxes at all. But they still get Social Security/Medicare when they turn 65. So all of the people like Mickey D workers to clerks to Groc. Baggers pay for the social security for all those rich jerks. I feel if you have an income making more then 150K screw you. You should not get SS/MC. You don’t need it.

You need Govt. Police, Fire, EMS, FEMA, SS/MC, Unemployment, Post Office, Need I Go On . Everything YOU Need is Govt. As I used to say to morons like you who say that crap, “The Life I Save May Be Yours”. Did I mention I am a Ret. Firefighter/Paramedic/ Police Officer. So again your wrong O.

There are no new Gun Laws. No one said they are adding more gun laws. That’s in your mind.

No such thing as Abortion On Demand. This is not a Man’s Problem. This is the LAW of The Land. This is a Woman’s issue so let the women handle what they need or want to do and leave Govt out of the decision. (You said you didn’t want Govt. making decisions.)

Pot Legal. Probly would save lives and make states get additional income from sales. The saves lives part would come from it not being illegal. Just like prohibition. Once Booze was legal, people stopped getting killed. So I think if you thought about it you would change your mind, but There are no polls about this yet.

Now comes down to individual elections. Your right wingers will get you right wing seats that you normally get in a mid-term election. I really don’t care. But come 2012 when everyone votes, we will kick your ass again. Why, you ask. Well you just pissed off every Hispanic in the world and all of the African Americans and lets face it, every normal person too. Does the term “Let Me See Your Papers” mean anything to you? Sounds like Germany 1941. Oh Arizona Rethuglicans Thank you Ever So Much For the Next 6 years of Obama. Thank You.

If you were to deport every illegal immigrant in America the economy would collapse far faster than any Wall Street firm going bankrupt ever could.

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Your claim is w/out merit or facts. Deport the illegals and appoint people on unemployment and welfare to take their positions. No more hand-outs and no more illegals. Next!

My personal feeling on this is any rich dick should pay out the snout.

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FU.

People on unemployment and welfare won’t take those jobs, and businesses illegally boost their profits by paying them less than minimum wage.

You want to fix the problem, go after the system that keeps it in place, go after the businesses, go after the corporations that benefit from slave labor. Go after the multinational corporations that do business in America that use overseas slave labor.

We have the same approach to immigration that we do with drugs. We act like we are doing something, by going after the people who are products of the system rather than the system itself.

Olby Sucks ,
Your dumber then I thought. Unemployment Ins. is Just That. It’s Ins. that you pay while you are working. It’s not Wellfare. You pay into it so if you lose your job, you have that to fall back on. You are so 1970′s. There is no more wellfare as you define it. People who recieve Food Stamps because of Low Income is not wellfare. There are no more “Public Aid” programs in this country anymore. That went out in the 90′s. Wise up. Learn before you speak of things you know nothing about. I hope you never have to claim your unemployment Ins. Maybe we can deport YOU.

Question to the Illegal immigrants…if you really want to be in America, why don’t you do it legally like most everyone else from the East?

Even if you are here illegally at some point recently, why don’t you simply become legal?

Seems to me, if the illegals claims to be patriots of US, then why don’t they do their patriotic duties and apply to be legal in the US instead of fighting the US authorities, US laws, and in the process, causing Angst among those who are legal US citizens?????

IF the illegals would do this one patriotic duty, this LAW would not be necessary today

People on unemployment and welfare won’t take those jobs

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They will if they want a check. It’s fairly simple. You work, you get paid.

There are no more “Public Aid” programs in this country anymore. That went out in the 90’s.

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Really?

Why do Democrats want to give Illegal Mexican Immigrants SPECIAL PRIVILEGES over everyone else who wants to come here?

The Federal Government REFUSES to Enforce Immigration Laws, and now wants to rule that enforcement by the States Unconstitutional?

REPUBLICANS BETTER STAND UP TO THIS FIGHT! – before it comes to serious talks of secession!!

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2007/12/19/calis-budget-crunch-commentators-avoid-looking-welfare-rolls

1st off. Employers pay unemployment insurance not employees. That’s if employers are paying wages legit on the books. If not being legit and paying out cash wages, there’s lot’s of stories that show employers not paying their share of unemployment insurance for employed illegal immigrants. So the legit employers, you and me via Fed matching to states pay for those who don’t

If you noticed, large sums of the stimulus was to beef up and fund several state’s unemplyment funds to keep states paying out unemployment benefits (out to 2 years I believe). Translation, all of you who paid FICA and/or income taxes help pay for illegals and legal unemployment benefits.

Come on! Illegals take just the jobs Americans don’t want? What a sterotype! Just cleaning motels and working the fields. Come on Man! Last month in AZ a owner of several McDonald’s chains was arrested for hiring scores of illegal immigrants across his several fast food stores. (forged documentation)

Last week, AZ grocery chain, Ranch Market was busted for having hired 1/4th it employees as illegal immigrants. Forced to fire 300 illegal immigrant employees last week (forged documentation)

Yes, illegals being paid at least minimum wage with benefits with air conditioning. Bet they were smart too.

The recent activity was an attempt to focus on employers to thwart the momenteum on illegal immigration bill. For a mement that Feds would actually enforce immigration. The FEDs lost the sentiment of the AZ citizens over the last 10 years. The state’s citizens are pushing some form of enforcement and the politicians are reacting to that push. Not the other way around.

The main argument about this law is it effects the CIVIL LIBERTIES of AMERICAN CITIZENS; you know, the ones granted to us by GOD and the CONSTITUTION?

This isn’t about giving illegal immigrants special privileges.

And yes, Fox and Friends are hilarious.

this is the best article i’ve ever read on mediaite. this is what mediaite should be. comparing/contrasting shows on different networks on the same topic is wonderful, especially devoid of the normal glynnis/tommy liberal bias. bravo jon!

Visionary,
Thanks a lot! I have to say though that, as a new writer on the site, many of my assignments (like this one) get given to me by some of the very people you’re complaining about…

It is interesting to see how the opinion shows on the two channels work when compared side by side. Since we’ve all mostly accepted that the opinion shows on MSNBC are biased for the liberals and those on Fox are biased for the right, the only thing left to do really is compare how they handle their bias. In this case, I’ve got to say that F&F won the round by at least giving a better explanation of what the other side was thinking.

It would be nice to do something like this (a direct side-by-side of the morning shows) frequently but maybe as a regular feature it would have to be reserved for the big developing stories instead of every day or so. If you do it too often, I think you’d end up saying the same things over and over again.

Again though, thanks a lot for the feedback!

I would add, though, that comparing Fox & Friends with Morning Joe is like comparing apples and apples. Both shows are nauseating with less-than stellar hosts. Both are humorous, at best, and devoid of actual, useful information with a blathering host and a “stupid” blonde co-host.

That said, F&F is by far the most humorous show FNC has (sorry, Red Eye).

Fox and Friends, unintentional comedy at its best! I feel dumb just for watching that clip…

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I think Seth Myers said it best:

This week, Arizona signed the toughest illegal immigration law in the country which will allow police to demand identification papers from anyone they suspect is in the country illegally. I know there’s some people in Arizona worried that Obama is acting like Hitler, but could we all agree that there’s nothing more Nazi than saying “Show me your papers?” There’s never been a World War II movie that didn’t include the line “show me your papers.” It’s their catchphrase. Every time someone says “show me your papers,” Hitler’s family gets a residual check. So heads up, Arizona; that’s fascism. I know, I know, it’s a dry fascism, but it’s still fascism.

Funny how we have not seen any cops in riot gear at the Tea Party protests. When the illegals gather they practically had to call out the National Guard.

JamesA1102 talks about fascism lol. Yet I think it is safe to assume he voted for Obama. The biggest fascist President in America’s history. Nice job JamesAhole.

JamesA1102 says:
April 26, 2010 at 10:20 pm

I think Seth Myers said it best:

I ask again, why is it that the left always seem to look to comedians for their leadership?

Oh well… James, buddy, pal… as I’ve said before, there a lot of criticism coming for the new law… but not a lot of better ideas. Wasn’t/Isn’t that the complaint against the Republicans? Always saying, “No,” but providing no alternatives.

So what’s the good word? Instead of this law… what should Arizona do?

The progressives want open borders and amnesty for all. They also want free money, free drugs and marry anything.

cmdrgmh WHAT?
Gay marriage 50/50 LOL. Name a state that the people voted for gay marriage? Remember Ca.
Why do you try to change my statements? Obamacare is opposed by more than 55% of all the people polled, I don’t care if they support individual parts, that is not what I said.
All the polls NOW show people do NOT believe humans are the cause of climate change. That has nothing to do with thinking the “planet is in big trouble”.
I said nothing about whether Obama raised taxes or did not raise taxes. I said people oppose tax increases and new taxes. Can you read?
New gun laws have been proposed by Mayor Daly in Chicago and other mayors and other state legislatures. Once again you change what I said. I did not say anything about Obama.
I stated a irrefutable fact, people oppose new gun laws.
People support restrictions on abortion. No restrictions mean abortion on demand.
Everything I said was ABSOLUTLY true.
Now crawl back into the hole you came out of.

“cmdrgmh says:
April 26, 2010 at 4:01 pm”

Sorry, but you are dead wrong on this.

Unemployment taxes are paid 100% by the EMPLOYER. The rate is based on the past performance of the type of your business (i e seasonal businesses have a much higher rate) and the amount of insurance benefits collected in the state in which you operate.

If we are going to discuss something we hould have the basic facts correct.

the visionary says:
April 26, 2010 at 6:11 pm

You beat me to it, Vtisionary.

Jon, I read an earlier comment by you that you hoped to write articles that garnered more comments. My first reaction was that you had set yourself a difficult task because you write so evenhandedly without the ever present injection of ideological partisan rhetoric.

I for one will never skip one of your articles. They are a real foundation on which to build honest debate between reasonable but differing commenters.

Good job!

#1) for the love of everything holy TRY READING the law that was passed with your own eyes!!! it’s amazing how clearly, you will see will see things when you do that. Both sides of this arguement seem to be guided by the rhetoric provided to you by someone else. if you can’t refer back to the actual text to prove or disprove your point then ‘what’s the point?’ i would love to see people actually have some facts to back themselves up. come on!! prove to everyone that what you say is true…….prove it. #2) i absolutely cannot understand how people take it for granted that most latinos are democrats…..i’m from Tucson and people down here think that one is pretty funny

gordonbloyershow says:
April 26, 2010 at 2:27 pm

The MAJORITY of the people in this country do NOT support amnesty. (False)
The majority support English as America’s official language. (True)
The majority oppose Gay Marriage. (False)
The majority oppose Obamacare. (False) There is no “Obamacare”
The majority don’t believe humans are causing climate change. (False)
The majority oppose NEW taxes or tax increases. (False) There have been no NEW taxes or tax increases.
The majority oppose bigger govenment. (False)
The majority oppose more gun laws. (True) But, who’s proposed more gun laws?
The majority oppose abortion on demand. “On demand” (True) Abortion? (False)
The majority oppose making pot legal. (False)
Yet we have a govenment that opposes the majority opinion. (False)
In November the majority will send them packing.

3 for 12. Does this mean the “majority” won’t send them packing?

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Here in Milton, La. and neighboring cities (surrounding Lafayette, La. subdivisions have been being built faster than a freight train. Guess who are doing the building…illegal immigrants. Those are carpentry, roofing, plastering, etc. jobs americans would love to have. Thus poof goes the saying they are doing the jobs americans doesn’t want. My brother in law is a plasterer by trade in california. He cannot find work because the illegals are taking the job. Here illegals are working in alligator farms, cane fields etc. I have hardly seen a mexican here in my 63 years, now they are overtaking the population here…all illegals. But isn’t that what the new world order wants? no borders…Canada, U.S.A. and South America all one territory of the new world order? All the world split up in a few groups? Tell me Rockefellers…Rothchilds, etc…Isn’t that the new world plan for the world? Americans have to lower themselves to third world countries so we peons can be all equal..Watch what is going on and take notes people. Forget borders…they do not want borders and we won’t have any I bet.

We can blame ourselves for letting the brash minority take over. Come November the ”silent” majority needs to get off their duffs and make some noise or we can just give away this country to the communists who will then quiet the brash minority AND the silent majority in their own way.