Ratigan is a tool. Buying GLD in the financial markets is not the same as buying gold you can hold. Ratigan is talking about buying shares in a gold company…it’s still paper monet you frickin idiot.

Looks good http://www.tnta.us

“Just don’t do it with the extra subsidy that Goldline is delivering to Glenn Beck for his fearmongering, which is 90% more than you could buy the exact same gold” blah blah blah

It took me all of 2 minutes to prove him wrong on that.

GoldLine sells 1oz Gold Bullion for $1,310

Gold is currently, $1,197.46

GoldLine makes $112.64 per sale, or 9.4% margin on the sale.

Low margin retail items such as computers & TV’s still retain a 15-20% margin on the items.

Ratigan needs to do an on-air retraction.

Yep, this whole Goldline thing is a major scam. Check out this article: http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/05/glenn-beck-goldline-weiner

Dylan Ratigan is the biggest Moron ever to suck air on this planet…….

MSNBC is sick, sick, sick. Their constant attacks on Beck and FNC just demonstrate the complete jealousy of FNC’s ratings and personalty successes. Ratigan should just shut up; his KO-like performance will be a failure. KO is failing and flailing around. Stupid is as stupid does.

MSNBC=Meltdown

What a pathetic network; making fools of themselves day in and day out.

MSDNC is very desperate, very desperate. I can’t recall the last time I’ve ever seen a competing cable news network and a hack congressman join forces with such gusto and go after a company and an on air personality. When your getting flack, you know your over the target. Keep hitting them Glenn… your da man. Very desperate indeed.

Valkyrie, why not just quote Media Matters or KOS? After all, they are the same thing as Mother Jones.

This is it’s big main quote: “One Beck fan told the FTC that Goldline had charged $369 for coins that could be bought elsewhere for 40 percent less.”

Ummm, so companies are selling the gold for less than it’s worth? Let me get in on that!

See above.

In fact, the $369 gold coin is probably now the 1/4 gold bullion, priced at $356.04.

Let’s all do math together!

Gold is currently, $1,197.46 per ounce

quarter ounce = $299.37

Goldline makes $56.67, or 18.9% margin on the coin. Most companies will try to have a 50% margin on products and the coins are well within the computer/ TV market for margin.

40% less of $369 is $147.60, LESS THAN HALF OF THE VALUE OF THE GOLD!

Hey Rat,
When the Obama adminstration was trying to bribe a snake oil salesman deal to Congress Joe Sestak for Secretary of the Navy position to drop out of the senate race…where was the outrage over there at MSNBC?You are nothing but a propaganda coke – head for Weiner.

TfT says:
May 19, 2010 at 10:28 pm

MSNBC . . . constant attacks on Beck and FNC just demonstrate the complete jealousy of FNC’s ratings and personalty successes. Ratigan should just shut up . . .”

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Actually, its kind of smart.

Ratigan and MSNBC need ratings so they produce material on subjects that get ratings like Beck.

You Beckerheads are damn fools.

“produce material” ie, Lie. I see what you did there…

Good job Comic!

“You Beckerheads are damn fools.”

Why? Because it took 5 minutes to figure out the accusations were false?

Im no Beckerhead, FWIW

Solid bedwetter presence in this thread.

My question is this: When the Beck-predicted apocalypse comes, how are you gonna survive eating gold coins?

Well, you use the gold to buy the magic seeds Glen(n) sells. I should think they would grow very quickly in the apocalyptic heat.

I think the headliner here is: MSNBC’s Dylan Ratigan says that Glenn Beck is no better than: Barack Obama!

Comic,
Face it, Beck is a phenomenon, like hoola hoops or silly puddie. Everyone wants one, at first, but as time goes by you still see them in the stores but they are not wildly popular as they were originally. Glenn is like a beanie baby, in that regard. His ratings have been dropping, he can not get very many sponsors, and the sponsors he has are scam artists. Beck is one scandal away from being a $600 Jeopardy question.

We need to check RRK’s papers.

valkyrie101 says:
May 19, 2010 at 11:29 pm

Liar.

His ratings are doing hugely well (see last weeks story), and are still better than the competition. Many of his advertisers are the same folks you’ll find across the dial… even on *gasp* MSNBC. Sponsorship isn’t a realistic problem, as he’s still pulling in a huge audience, and making plenty of money for his publisher and producers.

Wishful thinking on your part… but yet another unfounded lie.

But more importantly… who cares? If he’s such a bad guy… why bother? Why must MSNBC attack him daily? Why is the White House afraid of him? Why is the left perpetually pissed off over “Glenn Beck?” For someone of “dwindling importance,” you guys sure spend a lot of energy talking about him.

You love to cal people liars, blue, a sure sign of a week argument. It is undeniable that Beck’s ratings have, overall, been going down from his hey day, that he has a hard time getting sponsors, and that Goldline is a scam. And to hear a man who sees a communist under every rock call Weiner a MCcarthyite is just pathetic. Don’t get me wrong, I like Glenn. He draws all the psycho’s out of their holes. And that is a positive thing.

ImNotBlue says:
May 19, 2010 at 11:39 pm

Why is the White House afraid of him?
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That is one ignorant statement. That’s about as ignorant as saying Democrats are afraid of Sarah Palin or Rush Limbaugh. Hell, Democrats hope the Palin, Rush, Beck and the rest of the RW nutcases keep talking and showing their stupidity. It just shows everyone what the Repub party truely is. A bunch of idiots.

pipes are fighting words, though the last time you tried to Ratigan tickling the dragon's tail, so to speak, Beck has not really changed.
memory card reader

Blue,
Beck makes a living attacking other people. I mean, that is what he does. So why is it a problem if MSNBC does the same with him? Beck is a religious nut now, and he subscribes to the end of the world scenario that the Mormon’s subscribe to, with the government melting down, roving bands of undead scrounging for food, and just those chosen people who have a secure house, plenty of guns, end of the world seeds, and gold, surviving until Jesus comes back and places the chosen on top of the heap.

Beck makes a living attacking other people

Who specifically are you talking about?

the real john t says:
May 19, 2010 at 11:55 pm
ImNotBlue says:
May 19, 2010 at 11:39 pm

Why is the White House afraid of him?
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That is one ignorant statement.

Really, then what happened to Van Jones and Anita Jones? They are scared to death of him and are doing whatever they can to shut him up. Too bad for them, it’s not working.

MichelleF says:
May 20, 2010 at 12:22 am
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If you consider Beck your Repub hero, you are one sorry ass person. And I feel sorry for you. You just keep rooting for him. He’ll bring the Repub party back to the top.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

John,
As I have said many times, if the left weren’t so terrified of Beck, they would get out of his way and let him sink himself. Unfortunately for you, he’s out to expose who the left really is and you can’t stop him. So you can pretend he’s not having an impact all you want and ridicule those who listen to him, but it’s pretty transparent that the left is utterly petrified of him.

H’es right.

valkyrie101 says:
May 19, 2010 at 11:54 pm

You love to cal people liars, blue, a sure sign of a week argument.

Yeah, that’s what it is. Oh… or that you’re not telling the truth. Hey, but whatever helps you sleep at night. If you’d rather believe your little made up stories… go for it! Sadly, it still won’t be the truth… and while you believe it, you’ll remain a liar to everyone else.

It is undeniable that Beck’s ratings have, overall, been going down from his hey [sic] day,

Yes… they’ve gone down a little… however, very slowly and by a relatively small amount. Furthermore, with his numbers still being so high overall… a suggesting there is a decline and that’s a “big problem,” is disingenuous at best… at a lie at worst. Notice that his numbers are STILL higher than the competition… by a lot. Oh, and their numbers have been going down as well, haven’t they?

In short, on this you’re drawing a false conclusion based on insufficient numbers. Not to worry… it’s not your fault… KOS and MoveOn said it was happening. You’re just too “out there” to actually do the research yourself… and too much of a coward to disagree with them. S’okay… we get it.

…that he has a hard time getting sponsors,

And the evidence for this is? And the relevance for this is? And your point is?

and that Goldline is a scam.

Who should I believe… Beck’s competition… or the Better Business Bureau. Who to trust… who to trust. But again, I get it. KOS and MoveOn have said something bad about someone connected with Beck… therefore, they’re right! It doesn’t matter that you don’t have the evidence… it’s negative for Beck, so it must be right! Perhaps you’re not a liar… maybe just a very willing dupe.

And to hear a man who sees a communist under every rock call Weiner a MCcarthyite is just pathetic.

Yeah… Weiner, a poster child for respect and civility. Sorry, try again.

Don’t get me wrong, I like Glenn. He draws all the psycho’s out of their holes. And that is a positive thing.

Well that’s true. Why all those psychos are insistent on attacking him day in and day out… especially since they believe he’s failing, is confusing though. “Why would they do that,” is an interesting question… but I already asked you that… and you ran away from it. So I don’t suppose you’ll answer it this time either. Pitty… I’m always interested in what the “psychos” have to say.

the real john t says:
May 19, 2010 at 11:55 pm

Well put, John. You really stood up for your argument. I find your labeling of them as “idiots” even though nobody was talking about them) very convincing. Consider my opinion changed. Nice job.

valkyrie101 says:
May 20, 2010 at 12:00 am

Beck makes a living attacking other people. I mean, that is what he does.
So does: Ratigan, Olbermann, Maddow, Schultz, and blah blah blah. It’s only an “attack” when you disagree with it, or don’t like the information he’s talking about. Otherwise, it’s an “expose” or “truth to power!” Right?

So why is it a problem if MSNBC does the same with him?

Let’s see… Beck talks about the government and people trying to change the country. And MSNBC talks about a television host. Hmm… see any difference?

But then again, if it’s a problem when Beck does it (which you have suggested), I guess YOU believe it’s a problem when MSNBC does it. After all, if Beck attacks people, and MSNBC attacks people, and Beck is bad for attacking, well then you must conclude MSNBC is bad too… right?

Beck is a religious nut now, and he subscribes to the end of the world scenario that the Mormon’s subscribe to, with the government melting down, roving bands of undead scrounging for food, and just those chosen people who have a secure house, plenty of guns, end of the world seeds, and gold, surviving until Jesus comes back and places the chosen on top of the heap.

Nice! You’re a bigot too. I guess according to you, Beck is the “wrong religion,” and should be punished for that. I wonder, could you produce a list of acceptable ideas and actions… that way we’d all know what to do to be good people by your standard. It might make your bigotry looks less angry, desperate, and hateful.

Oh, and in case you’re not sure I meant it… I’ll write it one more time: You are a bigot.

No Michelle, the left is by no means afraid of Beck or Rush or whoever. However, it is the job of progressives to point out the folly of those men. So we will. And slowly, as we have been seeing, more and more regular people who have been riding the Beck bus will just get off.

valkyrie101 says:
May 20, 2010 at 12:00 am

Beck makes a living attacking other people. I mean, that is what he does.

I’m still waiting to hear who Glenn has attacked. Please, someone enlighten me.

However, it is the job of progressives to point out the folly of those men.

You’re doing a really bad job. Glenn is winning that war. You can’t attack him on the substance of what he says. I challenge you to watch his show tomorrow and make a list of every untruth he says and post it. Until you can start pointing out where he is wrong, you lose.

MichelleF

In case you don’t realize, this country has a population of over 300 million. Beck gets maybe 1.5 or 2million viewers a night. Now why don’t you do the math of what percentage of the population is listening and following Beck. Since part of them viewing him are doing it to laugh at him.

MichelleF says:
May 20, 2010 at 12:44 am
valkyrie101 says:
May 20, 2010 at 12:00 am

Beck makes a living attacking other people. I mean, that is what he does.

I’m still waiting to hear who Glenn has attacked. Please, someone enlighten me.
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Well, we could mention the President of the United States, Obama.

Blah, Blah, Blah. That argument is getting old John. You are clearly terrified of the man. Now I’m going to bed, let me know when you come up with something of substance to call him on. Good luck!

the real john t says:
May 20, 2010 at 12:48 am

In case you don’t realize, this country has a population of over 300 million. Beck gets maybe 1.5 or 2million viewers a night. Now why don’t you do the math of what percentage of the population is listening and following Beck. Since part of them viewing him are doing it to laugh at him.

Now John John… if that was the case, and just a few people were watching Beck… why would the left (like you) spend so much time talking about him? Hmmm?

Here’s someone who only addresses 1% of the population (so you say), and yet you’re always talking about him… Val is always talking about him… Mediaite is always talking about him… MSNBC is always talking about him… and on and on and on. So what gives? I guess he’s too tiny to worry about, but too big not to talk about.

the real john t says:
May 20, 2010 at 12:52 am

Well, we could mention the President of the United States, Obama.

Well of course! He criticized Obama… which means he attacked him! And that never happened for Bush! Nobody on the left ever spoke a word of negative towards him. Nuh-uh. Never happened.

yrie101 says:
May 20, 2010 at 12:43 am

No Michelle, the left is by no means afraid of Beck or Rush or whoever. However, it is the job of progressives to point out the folly of those men. So we will. And slowly, as we have been seeing, more and more regular people who have been riding the Beck bus will just get off.

Yet again… a hypocritical statement. You attack Beck for “attacking others,” and yet you just said the entire movement has a “job” of attacking him. Beck is bad for attacking people… Progressive are good for attacking Beck.

Man, such hypocrisy. It’s enough to make your head spin.

MichelleF says:
May 20, 2010 at 12:52 am
Blah, Blah, Blah. That argument is getting old John. You are clearly terrified of the man.
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You are one truely pathetic person. You asked for someone he attacked, now you want to play like some dumbass (which I think you are). He also said all Progressives were cancer. But in your mind that’s probably not an attack.

Beck’s “attacks” on Obama’s administration remind me of Keith Olbermann’s “attacks” on the Bush Administration. Beck, as a television personality, is a lot easier to stomach than Olbermann though.

No matter who the president is, he or she will always have critics.

ImNotBlue says:
May 20, 2010 at 1:03 am
the real john t says:
May 20, 2010 at 12:48 am

Now John John… if that was the case, and just a few people were watching Beck… why would the left (like you) spend so much time talking about him? Hmmm?
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Well that’s kind of funny you mentioned that. Since you and the gang at Dollar’s Dump spend most of your time talking about Olbermann. He has even less viewers. Do you know what a hypocrite is?

the real john t says:
May 20, 2010 at 12:48 am
MichelleF
“In case you don’t realize, this country has a population of over 300 million. Beck gets maybe 1.5 or 2million viewers a night. Now why don’t you do the math of what percentage of the population is listening and following Beck. Since part of them viewing him are doing it to laugh at him.”

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Well, a lot people forget Beck has a radio program too that draws over seven million a day.

Also, you got to consider the voting age population into your argument instead of the total. Then you got to figure in the percentage of the voting population that actually votes.

Then you can do the math.

the real john t says:
May 20, 2010 at 1:09 am
“Well that’s kind of funny you mentioned that. Since you and the gang at Dollar’s Dump spend most of your time talking about Olbermann. He has even less viewers. Do you know what a hypocrite is?”

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Was this directed towards me?

Rogue-Comic says:
May 20, 2010 at 1:12 am

Well, a lot people forget Beck has a radio program too that draws over seven million a day.
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You should research that again. It’s 7 million a week. That’s how they rate radio programs. Divide 5 into that and see how many a day.

Blue,

Well blue, you called me a liar because I said Beck’s ratings have gone down. But you then admit that they have: “Yes… they’ve gone down a little… however, very slowly and by a relatively small amount…” So in other words, I did not lie about Beck’s lower ratings. Correct? So you take back what you said about me lying on that? Right?

I said that Beck has been having trouble getting sponsors. You called me a liar on that too. Do you deny that is true? (I need to ask because your response was not clear). I mean, even Fox has admitted that FACT.

I said that Goldline was a scam. You called me a liar on that too. OK. We will have to wait on that. The jury is still out. But numerous people who invested in Goldline claim it is a scam, that much we know, for sure.

As for my comments about Beck’s Mormon religious views, I do not think it makes me a bigot to not believe a bunch of crazy religious crap. Otherwise, you condemn every non-Mormon as bigots. Is that what you are saying? In fact, I love the variety of religious views we have under our 1st Amendment, and the fact that our culture permits all kinds of thought, religious or otherwise. But I reserve the right to disciminate between what I believe and what I do not believe. Agreed?

“You should research that again. It’s 7 million a week. That’s how they rate radio programs. Divide 5 into that and see how many a day.”

Point, but your math is still misleading as well.

They think whomever is against their views, they spend there time at “Dollar’s Dump,” whatever that is.

valkyrie101 says:
May 20, 2010 at 1:18 am
Blue,
“Well blue, you called me a liar because I said Beck’s ratings have gone down. But you then admit that they have: “Yes… they’ve gone down a little… however, very slowly and by a relatively small amount…” So in other words, I did not lie about Beck’s lower ratings. Correct? So you take back what you said about me lying on that? Right? ”

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You both appear to be wrong concerning Beck’s ratings. They dropped one day (this past Friday) and then shot back almost past O’Reilly this week.

Rogue-Comic says:
May 20, 2010 at 1:21 am

Point, but your math is still misleading as well.
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Would you like to explain how my math is misleading?

Also, you got to consider the voting age population into your argument instead of the total. Then you got to figure in the percentage of the voting population that actually votes.

Then the amount of the voting population that has cable, and then the amount of the voting population that has cable and actually cares. Then you will get your true percentage.

germ says:
May 20, 2010 at 1:30 am
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Why don’t you go to bed, you’re just showing your ignorance.

Ooo… I love old school comebacks!

Your mom is so fat, she has to take a bath in the Grand Canyon, bitch!

“Would you like to explain how my math is misleading?”

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I already did; did you not read the rest of it before rushing to make your point about my error in radio ratings.

I’ll repost it for you:

Also, you got to consider the voting age population into your argument instead of the total. Then you got to figure in the percentage of the voting population that actually votes.

Then you can do the math.

It appears Germ offered as explanation as well that differs from mind. If you follow his logic, you’d have to throw in internet service too.

“Why don’t you go to bed, you’re just showing your ignorance.”

John, when you made a point, I acknowledged it. When germ made one, you started the name-calling game again. Come on, man.

Comic,

I know you are new around here, but that is what these Progressive trolls do around here. They spew the latest KOS, MM, HuffPo talking points, and when you refute them, the start with name calling and disappear when you fight back.

It is quite the stress reliever as I laugh my butt off at them.

Rogue-Comic says:
May 20, 2010 at 1:37 am
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Why don’t you explain to me where I gave you a bunch of math? I said he had 7million listeners a week. Divide that by 5 and get his daily listeners. How hard is that? That was it. I’m glad to know you and Germ are the same person. Now why don’t you give me all these percentages you’re talking about.

Rogue-Comic says:
May 20, 2010 at 1:42 am
“Why don’t you go to bed, you’re just showing your ignorance.”

John, when you made a point, I acknowledged it. When germ made one, you started the name-calling game again. Come on, man.
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OH! That’s name calling? What about this:
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germ says:
May 20, 2010 at 1:35 am
Ooo… I love old school comebacks!

Your mom is so fat, she has to take a bath in the Grand Canyon, bitch!
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Do you approve of that?

Hey dumb shit, this is the post about your math being off.

In case you don’t realize, this country has a population of over 300 million. Beck gets maybe 1.5 or 2million viewers a night. Now why don’t you do the math of what percentage of the population is listening and following Beck. Since part of them viewing him are doing it to laugh at him.

Or are you still in the 4th grade and unable to understand a word problem when you write. Go to bed, you memory is fading.

” Why don’t you explain to me where I gave you a bunch of math?”

In your own words:

the real john t says:
May 20, 2010 at 12:48 am

[[[[MichelleF

In case you don’t realize, this country has a population of over 300 million. Beck gets maybe 1.5 or 2million viewers a night. Now why don’t you do the math of what percentage of the population is listening and following Beck. Since part of them viewing him are doing it to laugh at him.]]]]]

valkyrie101 says:
May 20, 2010 at 1:18 am

Well blue, you called me a liar because I said Beck’s ratings have gone down. But you then admit that they have: “Yes… they’ve gone down a little… however, very slowly and by a relatively small amount…” So in other words, I did not lie about Beck’s lower ratings. Correct? So you take back what you said about me lying on that? Right?

Actually, I’ve said you’re a liar for a whole host of reasons! This just being one of them. But let’s see… what else did I say in that paragraph: “Furthermore, with his numbers still being so high overall… a suggesting there is a decline and that’s a “big problem,” is disingenuous at best… at a lie at worst.” The “lie” is your false conclusion. What you’re doing is the equivalent of saying, “Hey, Beck had 2 million on Monday, but only 1.9 million Tuesday… see, he’s in decline.” Sure, you can try to skate saying, “I’m technically correct in saying his numbers have gone down,” but beyond that, your conclusion is bogus. And I believe (and this is where I may be wrong) that you know that. But, it’s more fun and better for “your side” to lie and say his numbers are trending dramatically down, and build some fake conclusion. Forgive me… I just think you should be able to do better.

I said that Beck has been having trouble getting sponsors. You called me a liar on that too. Do you deny that is true? (I need to ask because your response was not clear). I mean, even Fox has admitted that FACT.

Did I call you a liar for that? Or did I ask you for some evidence, and the relevancy of it? Are you worried that FNC isn’t getting enough on their return? Is there any evidence of that?

I said that Goldline was a scam. You called me a liar on that too. OK. We will have to wait on that. The jury is still out. But numerous people who invested in Goldline claim it is a scam, that much we know, for sure.

And we also know that the Better Business Bureau have given them an A+ rating. So who are you going to believe? I know, I know… you’re gonna believe the folks who tell you what you want to hear… not the industry standard for these types of things. As I said before… it’s okay, we get it.

As for my comments about Beck’s Mormon religious views, I do not think it makes me a bigot to not believe a bunch of crazy religious crap.

Actually, it makes you a bigot to disrespect Mormons… which you just did. You may not believe the same things, but to categorize an entire religion as “bad” (you used more offensive language, but we’ll leave it at that) is bigoted. Remember how scared the left was anytime a radical Muslim blows something up… how worried there would be prejudice? I guess when it’s someone the left doesn’t like, and some form of Christianity… well, no biggie… bigotry is cool then.

Otherwise, you condemn every non-Mormon as bigots. Is that what you are saying?

You seem confused. There’s a difference in believing something different, and openly disrespecting someone else’s religion.

In fact, I love the variety of religious views we have under our 1st Amendment,

Except, apparently for Mormons.

…and the fact that our culture permits all kinds of thought, religious or otherwise. But I reserve the right to disciminate between what I believe and what I do not believe. Agreed?

And if you don’t believe it, you feel you can mock, insult, discredit, and disrespect it. In other words… be a bigot. I’m pretty sure that’s what I said, isn’t it?

There is relatively small percentage of the population who listen to Beck on any given day. Even counting his radio listeners…

Blue,

No actually not just Mormons, I do not believe most of the religious end of days crap. In that regard, I do not discriminate.

“Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.” -Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787

Rogue-Comic you and your sockpuppet Germ are really too ignorant to even converse with. You have just shown it.

Good night.

I guess John’s mom is calling him up from the basement now to suck on here tit.

I first have to provide the caveat that back in the 70s, when I was a teen, I made my first “fortune” from buying silver coins off of the other kids in town and from my school, which I knew they had gotten from their piggybanks. So, though it was a long time ago, my hands aren’t clean and that prevents me from totally knocking Goldline’s business because I’ve done the same thing, myself.

With that said…

@germ: Investopedia, a division of Forbes, says that the typical mark-up for gold coins on the legitimate market is 1-5%. Using your numbers and doing no research of my own, if you were to buy coins at the mark-ups you cite and rounding down, the investor would be betting that the price of gold will increase between 9-18%.

Perhaps that will be true in the short term for whomever buys gold today, perhaps not, only the market can decide and just like housing prices didn’t rise in perpetuity, eventually the gold bubble will pop and whomever bought their coins just before the burst will find themselves holding the bag.

This of course, if it is truly the end of the market will cause a rush to sell and the price will continue to fall, which will place more and more people underwater just as it has happened at the end of every other bubble.

Not to mention that just as there’s a markup to buy gold, it appears from their website that Goldline charges the seller a 1% liquidation fee, so your 9-18% bet has now risen to a 10-19% increase just to get a profit, rounding down.

@MichelleF: @ImNotBlue appears to cite the Better Business Bureau meme that Beck has spread, but you’ve mentioned it on other threads and either way, all the BBB does is measure whether a company has resolved complaints. They don’t judge whether the business practices are solid or fair, only whether or not when someone complains to the Bureau, the issue was resolved.

If you follow the link that Beck offers on his WeinerSite to the LA Bureau, you’ll see that they have records of 43 complaints. This means that 43 people have involved the Bureau in settling their problem and while it’s true that Goldline has settled all of these complaints, in 24 of the cases, they agreed to live up to the terms of the customer’s contract and in 7 cases, they pointed to the contract to justify the company’s actions and in 12 cases, they gave a full or partial refund.

And, if you click through to the BBB messageboard, you’ll find only ten customers reviews. Two of these reviews are negative, while the remainder are from newbies to the gold market who appreciate the ease of the Goldline system and others who have only dealt with this one firm.

the real john t says:
May 20, 2010 at 1:57 am
“Rogue-Comic you and your sockpuppet Germ are really too ignorant to even converse with. You have just shown it.

Good night.”

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Good grief, how am I ignorant for quoting your own post back to you?

John, I hope you come back and read this. I may be mistaken, but I believe we conversed on here before and actually kind of got along. If I am correct, are not a retired Iron worker?

If you are who I think you are, do you not remember I have an uncle who is also a retired Iron worker? And like my uncle, do you remember I respected your political views since I knew they were genuine?

Us on the left, afraid of glen beck? Ha ha, yea, whats he gonna do? Drown us with his vapor rub infused fake tears? What?!?! hes gonna inspire a bunch of morons to show up to washington with a bunch of misspelled signs and teabags hanging from old colonial costumes.,.,ohhhhhhh yea, what a way to stick it to the man tea baggers. Keep your socialist hands of my medicare.,.,,my personal fav

Ill be honest and level with you right wing becker/palin heads: we enjoy having those fools around to laugh at. And whose absurdity confirms all our negative stereotypes about you right wingers.

So go ahead and get that Palin/Beck 2012 ticket going. Oh yea thats right, Beck said he wouldnt take a back seat to some chick. Ok, im sorry a Beck/Palin 2012 ticket.

Come on all you Patriots!, I double dare you! run over to the RNC and demand the nomination. Hell, i’ll give the first donation to Mr.Steele myself.

michelle……”I’m still waiting to hear who Glenn has attacked. Please, someone enlighten me.”

ha ha really? you already mentioned 2: Anita Dunn and Van jones. Of course Obama is the exceptional exeption. But just a few others:

FDR
christians/social justice
Al Gore
Ron Paul, yes ron paul
Nancy Pelosi
Rahm emanuel, (not a problem with me)
Hillary Clinton
Joe Biden
John Mccain
Brown(r,mass)
hollywood liberal(__________)

do I really have to keep going?

From personal experience, I can tell anyone here interested that Lex Luthor’s dad in the Superman movie was dead right:

Forget gold, if really want to invest in something, invest in land. And always, always, hold onto the mineral rights.

@germ

PS) If you bought an ounce of gold at last week’s record high and if you sold it back to Goldline at the close of the NY market this afternoon, using the numbers from this WSJ article, you’d be $193 in the hole if you bought at a 9% markup or $306, if you bought at with an 18%.

While if you had bought at only the Investopedia/Forbes 1-5%, you’d just be down $81-$131.

Poor Weenie-Boy has his own Weiner-Website, thanks to Glenn Beck. http://www.weinerfacts.com. Glenn announced it on today’s show and l5 minutes later the Server crashed because of an overload of traffic. lmao!! The site is quite interesting, with FACTS about Weiner Corruption, Weiner Cheating, Weiner Fraud and Weiner Lies. Check it out. You can even leave TIPS if you have any Weiner Facts. Weenie-Boy is going to rue the day he ever decided to take on Glenn Beck. Comrade Obama tried it and ended up with egg all over his smarmy, arrogant face. He has never recovered.

Glenn Beck is a National Treasure!

the real john t says:
May 20, 2010 at 1:46 am

“I’m glad to know you and Germ are the same person.”

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John, if you e-mail the web masters of this site, they would not be violating any privacy rights in informing you that Germ and I have different ISP addresses most likely from different states, proving we are not the same person.

nrgetick says:
May 20, 2010 at 2:15 am

I just hope were you just as digusted with Bill Maher to Keith Olbermann, , Daily Kos , MoveOn , Code Pink , N.W.O and their ilk during the Bush years.

I guess if Beck, Hannity, Rush and others disagree with Obama’s policies, their just stupid uneducated people and the WHOLE Conservative and Tea- Party movement with them.

“I guess if Beck, Hannity, Rush and others disagree with Obama’s policies, their just stupid uneducated people and the WHOLE Conservative and Tea- Party movement with them.”

I have no problem giving koodos to repugs who vote or create, in my opinion, good legislation. Lately: For example i give props to john mccain for his amendment proposal to reinstate glass steghal.,.wasnt expecting that.

Although the amendment failed: couburn for being one of the only three repubs to vote on breaking up the big banks.

On Obama: hes not a socialist communist, hes a pimped out corporatist democrat aka neo liberal, I mean does it really seem like he tells the bankers,pharm/medical industry,oil industry what to do? Really!

I just hope were you just as digusted with Bill Maher to Keith Olbermann, , Daily Kos , MoveOn , Code Pink , N.W.O and their ilk during the Bush years.

I just knew Maher back then, Maher is the shit. Yea his shit is over the top, makes me laugh though.,someways reminds me of Carlin

nrgetick says:
May 20, 2010 at 3:17 am

On Obama: hes not a socialist communist, hes a pimped out corporatist democrat aka neo liberal, I mean does it really seem like he tells the bankers,pharm/medical industry,oil industry what to do? Really!

I dont believe Obama is capable of totally transforming America towards to pure socialism/communist ; but I do thinks his views are based in that thinking.

- Obama’s Father Wrote About Socialism – His father wrote a paper called “Problems With Our Socialism” that advocates 100% taxation of the rich, communal ownership of land and the forced confiscation of privately controlled land. Source: Greg Ransom, PrestoPundit

-Obama’s Mother Was a “Communist Sympathizer” – ” Friends describe her as a “fellow traveler”, that is, a communist sympathizer, from her youth, according to a March 27, 2007, Chicago Tribune report” Source: Spengler, Asia Times “The values she taught me continue to be my touchstone when it comes to how I go about the world of politics – Barack Obama” Source: Tim Jones, Chicago Tribune

-Obama’s Parents Met in a Russian Class (Back then it was the Communist USSR) – “His mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (her father always wanted a son), was white and just 18 when they met in a Russian class” Source: Sharon Cohen, St Louis Times

-Obama’s Teen Mentor was Frank Marshall Davis (a known CPUSA member) – “…through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his poetry and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just Frank.” Source: Cliff Kincaid, Accuracy in the Media “Kathryn Takara of the University of Hawaii, who wrote a dissertation on the life of Frank Marshall Davis, confirming Davis was a significant influence on Obama when the senator attended Punahou prep school in Hawaii from 1975 to 1979″ Source: Jim Corsi, WorldNetDaily based on Communism in Hawaii and the Obama Connection (Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein)

-Obama’s Brother Roy and Cousin Odinga are Marxists – “Barack Obama’s older brother, Abongo “Roy” Obama. He is a Luo activist. militant Muslim and a Marxist.” Source: Barbara Busby, 180people.com “The person who made me proudest of all,” Obama wrote, “was Roy Source: Bill Sammon, The Examiner “Odinga is a Marxist who reportedly has made a pact with a hard-line Islamic group in Kenya to establish Shariah courts throughout the country” Source: Invenstor’s Business Daily

-Obama Attended Socialist Conferences at Cooper Union – “He went to socialist conferences at Cooper Union and African cultural fairs in Brooklyn and started lecturing his relatives until they worried he’d become “one of those freaks you see on the streets around here.” Source: H Kennedy, NY Daily News

-Obama Was Hand Picked by Alice Palmer to Succeed Her in the Illinois State Senate – “Nine years before Palmer picked Obama to be her successor, she was the only African-American journalist to travel to the Soviet Union to attend the 27th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, according to an article Palmer wrote in the CPUSA newspaper, People’s Daily World, June 19, 1986.” Source: Jim Corsi, WorldNetDaily based on Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection (Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein)

-Obama’s Run for the Illinois State Senate was Launched by a Fundraiser Organized at Bill Ayers’ and Bernardine Dorhn’s Chicago Home – Ayers and Dorhn are former terrorists from the Weather Underground who’s SDS organization received financial contributions from the CPUSA. “Obama’s run for the Illinois state Senate was launched by a fundraiser organized at Ayers’ and Dorhn’s Chicago home by Alice Palmer. Palmer had named Obama to succeed her in the state Senate in 1995, when she decided to run for a U.S. congressional seat.” Source: Jim Corsi, WorldNetDaily based on Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection (Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein)

-Obama’s Church is Rooted in Liberation Theology which is Rooted in Marxism – ” The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology” Source: TUCC Website “Simply put, Liberation Theology is an attempt to interpret Scripture through the plight of the poor. It is largely a humanistic doctrine. It started in South America in the turbulent 1950′s when Marxism was making great gains among the poor because of its emphasis on the redistribution of wealth, allowing poor peasants to share in the wealth of the colonial elite and thus upgrade their economic status in life.” Source: gotquestions.org

Here it goes mini sht flinging Baboons! Pay attention!

Unless you are a jeweler, you have no business at all hiding bars of gold under you mattress, you morons.

If and when the sht flinging Baboon Apocalypse comes, you won’t be able to take your little gold coin and shave off a little bit to purchase your McLardo with fries.

As others have mentioned before, and I did too, Goldline makes money off commissions, you idiots. They take your money, their commission, IN DOLLARS for fck sake! and when you sell back your “investment” they give you back DOLLARS! you morons!

Dylan Ratingan is 100% ON THE MONEY!

You want to play the gold speculation game? – You play the futures contracts.
The banks, the speculators, the traders themselves DO NOT HOLD actual gold, you mini sht flinging Baboons. They hold contracts! YES YOU IDIOTS! PAPER! THEY TRADE PAPER!

Because PAPER MONEY is easier to trade than the commodity itself!

Take your little gold coin and try to exchange it at the bank for dollars.
They will laugh at you MORONS!
The bank teller will tell you to go to a broker and pay him his commission, then you get your dollars.

Take a look at the USA economy today. Is it better or worse than it was one year ago?
Take a look at the rest of the world. Is China’s economy or Europe’s economy better or worse than a year ago?

Now answer this, you dumbsht mini-Baboons, do you think the Chinese banks are demanding their debt collection be made in dollars or in gold, you sht heads?

BTW: One more thing and then I’ll shut-up…

EIn my initial comment to this thread, I referred to the oft-repeated Better Business Bureau comments as a “meme”. I primarily did it because though the full report has been linked from a few places, what I keep seeing is the following paragraph;

The Better Business Bureau, which has given Goldline an A+ rating, said Tuesday that it was standing by that. A representative of the bureau said it had recently re-reviewed Goldline in response to Mr. Weiner’s accusations and saw no reason for a change. “It’s a company with not that many complaints,” said Gary Almond, from the bureau. When compared with other companies that sell gold, “there was a remarkable difference in how each one addressed complaints,” noting that some of those other companies had F ratings.

Which was taken from a NYTimes blogpost.

And as I noted up top, the BBB has on record very few complaints about the company and while only a fraction resulted in a refund, they all have been marked as resolved. And, I don’t doubt that when the blogger asked how that compares to other companies, the BBB spokesperson said that some companies don’t respond to the organizations’s inquiries, which results in a low score. Of course this might also be expected because Goldline is a dues-paying member of the group and they’ve agreed to abide by it’s standards, so naturally they’ve been given a high rating..

Argh… while my link to “standards” held, I apparently messed-up the one explaining “ratings“

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If you ever wondered what happened to all of those kids that you saw getting bullied in school, I have the answer. They are on MSNBC. Try telling me that Olbermann and the others werent pinned in a corner having dodge balls thrown at their heads.

Actually sunnyr, given the way Beck has reacted to all of this Goldline stuff, it looks much more like Beck is quite worried. None of the Beck fans like Weiner to begin with, so I doubt Weiner cares what they think. Indeed, Beck’s Weiner site is not for going after Weiner, but for justifying Beck in the eyes of Beck’s fans. But imagine if gold starts to fall in value, as it tends to do, especially if consumer confidence breaks down. That is, if the gold bubble breaks. Think maybe some of those Beck fans that followed his advice into “safely” investing in gold will become angry? You bet. And then the lawyers will be circling. At that point, all the details of the Beck/Goldline relationship will spill out, and that could be damaging to Beck. It will be interesting to see where all this goes, but one thing for sure, Weiner highlighting the high Goldline profit margins is not going to help their business. And when some guy who invested his retirement savings into gold francs, as encouraged by Goldline, finds out he paid much more than he would have paid on the open market, or at ebay, he will not care about Beck’s politics. Rather, he will be looking for revenge and compensation for his loss.

Ha- this prove Glenn was right when he said this was a concerted attack.

valkyrie101 says:
May 19, 2010 at 10:26 pm

Yep, this whole Goldline thing is a major scam. Check out this article: http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/05/glenn-beck-goldline-weiner”

Mother Jones??

LOL

market down another 175!

Down over 1000 points in 2 weeks!

Glenn was right.

michelle……”I’m still waiting to hear who Glenn has attacked. Please, someone enlighten me.”

ha ha really? you already mentioned 2: Anita Dunn and Van jones. Of course Obama is the exceptional exeption. But just a few others:

FDR
christians/social justice
Al Gore
Ron Paul, yes ron paul
Nancy Pelosi
Rahm emanuel, (not a problem with me)
Hillary Clinton
Joe Biden
John Mccain
Brown(r,mass)
hollywood liberal(__________)

do I really have to keep going?

See that’s what I thought. Your definition of an attack is using their own words against them. Most of us don’t consider that an attack. Please try again.

valkyrie101 says:
May 20, 2010 at 9:11 am
Actually sunnyr, given the way Beck has reacted to all of this Goldline stuff, it looks much more like Beck is quite worried.

You obviously don’t watch Glenn much. This is what he does. Someone makes an outlandish claim against him and he hits back twice as hard. I fail to see what’s different here.

Concerted attack? You mean like what Fox News does with Drudge, Newsmax, the Washington Times and a host of corporate astro turfers? Concerted attack or not, if things turn sour on Goldline, if the gold bubble breaks, Beck and the Fox Goldline shills will be in deep water with their fans. And as I said, when it comes to money, when it comes to people’s retirement accounts, the favorable politics of Beck and company will be no consolation. If I were an attorney, I would be salivating at the prospect of deposing Beck and the Goldline people over their relationship. I wonder how much money Beck makes out of all those high Goldline margins?

His ratings have been dropping” Really?

5PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Glenn Beck – 2,190,000 viewers

8PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Countdown w/ K. Olbermann – 1,073,000 viewers

2X those of your Prime Time idiot.

Concerted attack? You mean like what Fox News does with Drudge, Newsmax, the Washington Times and a host of corporate astro turfers? ”

No, like the one done ny MSNBC, NBC, and the government- you know, the WH- Barry and his favorite Maoist, Anita Dunn.

Market down 221.

Glenn was right

Oh, Barry!!!!!!

WASHINGTON (AP) — The number of people filing new claims for unemployment benefits unexpectedly rose last week by the largest amount in three months.

Don’t ya just love how now that Barry is President that all the bad economic news is suddenly “unexpected.”

@valkyrie101: Not only is there the “danger” of the gold bubble becoming deflated from the economic rebound, but on their website and to the blogger from the Times, the spokesperson from Goldline says that they tell people to be prepared to hold onto their coins for at least three to five years.

If Beck or Sarah “saves” us in 2012, three years (for coins bought today) would be well into the next administration and one would assume that once the “threat” had passed, there would be less reason for folks to keep seeking shelter in gold, which will drive the price down.

Beck is a nut, his ratings are in decline, no one takes him seriously. So why this mad scramble by the left to “bring him down”? Why does he appear on Olbermann’s worst list so often? Why do the left wing posters here get so upset? Seems like an awful lot of attention and worry for a guy no one is watching and no one takes seriously.

Notsofast,
2.2 million Beck viewers is quite low for him. 1.1 KO viewers is, well, pretty high for him. I am not sure what your point is. The USA Network handily beats FOX everyday, and yes, the SpongeBob Squarepants show on Nickelodeon averages something like 5 million viewers. Beck gets half the viewers that SpongeBob gets. LOL.

writer,
The world of cable news is a little niche, a little smaller than World Wide Wrestling. And if you watch WWW you know that part of the hype is the opponents ripping each other before or after the “bout”. Why do they do that? It increases both controversy, people’s interest, and… ratings. So now you understand why MSNBC and FOX like to go after each other.

Understood, valk. What’s not understood is why the constant attacks on someone deemed so unimportant? It’s not just MSNBC that thinks that way, as evidenced by the left’s posts here.

Notsofast,
Beck makes a living off of criticizing his opponents, calling them fascists, communists, anti-patriots, etc., and then when he gets ripped in return from one or more of the people he makes a living (earning 30Million or so a year off his game) you throw up your hands and say, “Oh, how terrible, the left (that is, the “Marxists”), are concertedly attacking Glenn, how unrighteous of them to do that.” LOL.

At least Beck throws in a few facts every now and then, valk. Olbermann simply calls names, then gets guests from the Daily Kos to sit and nod their heads. Why no complaints about that?

writer,
The constant attacks, like in professional wrestling, are part of the Cable News game. Going after Beck helps MSNBC’s ratings. Going after KO, or whoever else on the left, helps Beck’s ratings. Beck knows that the more outrageous he gets the better his ratings. And that is the world-wide wrestling game, tried and true for more than 40 years now.

writer,
Your analysis of Olbermann is not objective and reflects a partisan perspective. I would rather see the Daily Kos guy on KO’s show, than Dick Morris.

Must be working, then. Beck and Fox’s ratings always blow MSNBC away. (Even though such a tiny, tiny percentage of the population is actually watching. Thought I’d throw that in so you wouldn’t have to.)

Valk, are you saying you’re not partisan? LOL

writer,
Let’s say you run a resturant and you serve one fish dish, four meat dishes, and ten assorted other dishes. At the end of the week you tally up the sales and find that the most popular meal you sold was the fish dish representing 15% of all sales with the four meat dishes at 7.5% each and the ten other dishes splitting the other 55% of your sales. So then, you conclude: fish dishes are your resturant’s most popular food? Likewise, given that FOX is really the only hard core right wing media organization on cable news, with numerous other outlets providing “left” or more secular leaning programming, it would make perfect sense that FOX would garner the highest ratings. Why? Because obviously the people on the left have more options to choose from.

writer,
No, I am not partisan. Objective, I would say. And having been a conservative for thirty years, and having voted for Ford (my first vote), Reagan, Reagan, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, and only, finally, Obama, I think my conservative credentials allow me to be objective. I became a progressive during Bush 43′s term. And the most significant event that caused that, was when the Bush administration authorized torture.

I do have to agree with that part about the left having more options to choose from. That’s exactly the point conservatives complained about for a long time. The media does lean left, and conservatives had no voice in the media. No that we have our own piece of it, the left keeps complaining about Fox. Can’t we have even one?

Should say “Now” that we have. Typo.

writer,
And yes, that imbalance, with more options in the media for liberals, is precisely why over the past few months here I have applauded FOX for providing a strong option for conservatives, since everyone needs a voice – conservatives and liberals alike. On the other hand, as a progressive, I am more than happy to object to the content of what Fox says.

valkyrie101 says:
May 20, 2010 at 1:53 am

There is relatively small percentage of the population who listen to Beck on any given day. Even counting his radio listeners…

Which is why the majority of Democrats and Liberals, both Congress people and not, spend so much time talking about him. He only talks to a few people… which translates into hours and hours of “discrediting” from the left.

valkyrie101 says:
May 20, 2010 at 1:57 am

No actually not just Mormons, I do not believe most of the religious end of days crap. In that regard, I do not discriminate.

Uh-huh. So anyone who preaches something you don’t agree with, gets insulted and disrespected. Still bigotry.

So valk, you do at least admit that the media has a left bias, and Fox is all that conservatives have. (Talk radio is opinion, not news. That doesn’t count.)

valkyrie101 says:
May 20, 2010 at 10:36 am

Notsofast,
2.2 million Beck viewers is quite low for him. 1.1 KO viewers is, well, pretty high for him. I am not sure what your point is. The USA Network handily beats FOX everyday, and yes, the SpongeBob Squarepants show on Nickelodeon averages something like 5 million viewers. Beck gets half the viewers that SpongeBob gets. LOL.

That ignorant comment proves what a complete idiot you are.

DOW down 277!

valkyrie101

And your liberal rag Obamaweek is up for sale and the far-left Nation magazine is facing a $1,000,000 budget shortfall. It’s so bad that “The Nation” is sending out fund raising letters!

Now that does merit a “LOL”

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Oh, I see blue, if you disagree with someone, if you think what they say is wrong, or even “crazy”, then that makes you a bigot? Clearly you are wrong on that. As they say, I do not agree with what you say but I respect your right to say it. And for the record, I also disagree with Reverend Moon, the right’s two billion dollar sugar daddy, when he says that there are “almost no white people in Heaven”. On the other hand, I think it is totally cool that people have the right to believe in such crap. Like Glenn and his Mormon boys, or even Louis Farrakan and the boy tie brigade.

oops, I mean “bow tie” brigade. :-)

writer,
Yes, conservatives have FOX and talk radio, and importantly, they have interjected conservative argument into the public dialogue. The big three networks, the non-cable news, are more moderate than liberal. And FOX has a lot to do with that.

Ratigan: Knows a snakeoil salesman when he sees one.

Weiner: Need I say more.

Two known blowhards trying to left to desparage people on their own. Keep trying boys, you look pathetic.

notsofast,
What’s a matter, you don’t like Spongebob or something? Just because Bob outdraws the rodeo clown that should not warrant your ire. The fact is, and I have been making this point for months, FOX News gets a relatively small piece of the pie. Sure, a bigger piece than MSNBC, but then, well, as I mentioned, the sum total of all news shows probably leans a little left. So Fox’s share is about right.

Not at all.

It’s just that sophomoric and ignorant people like you keep repeating that juvenile talking point what has been sponsored by MM and HP.

Why do you think Nielsen break out programs into categories for ratings? When was the last time they compared the Super Bowl ratings to “As the World Turns” ratings?

They compare comparables to comparables.

Now in your depraved mind, that makes no sense, but THEY are the professional who do this NOT YOU or MM or HP.

In your world, no documentary should be made because of the low revenues and there should be no cable news programs because their ratings are not as high as those for the entertainment programs.

But see, it is expected that news opinion and commentary programs won’t pull in the same audience of an entertainment programs .

So compare FOX’s ratings to CNN, MSNBC or HLN.

And when you do that , you and the pathetic audience following MSNBC lose.

By the way, DOW down 370.

Glenn was right!

notsofast,
The point is, in reality, as the numbers reflect, only a few million people out of 300 milion watch Glenn. Do you deny that? Most people do not live the fantasy you are immersed in, or that any of us here are immersed in. That’s reality.

You keep mentioning the dow, as if its fall is a badge of honor for Glenn. Well a year and a half ago, before Obama took office, the DOW really hit the skids. It recovered during the Obama administration, but then, yes, with the struggles of the European economy our DOW it is vulnerable. But Glenn was predicting big time collapses associated with, for example, the “bailouts”, but, notwithstanding the dramatic crisis we all faced before those were passed by Congress, things have gotten a little better.

I suppose if Glenn is right, we should all lock ourselves in our gated communities, start loading our own ammo to fend off the roving bands of illegal Hispanics, plant some of those “last days” seeds, and get our gold ready for barter. I am not sure why gold would have value under such collapsed circumstances, but at least those seeds will have barter value. And finally Jesus’ teaching will transpire with the rich inheriting the earth.

@michelle….”See that’s what I thought. Your definition of an attack is using their own words against them. Most of us don’t consider that an attack. Please try again.”

Would have been nice to have an example to illustrate that point.
Heres how you do it:

Beck vs Hillary
(i know you hate media matters,,lol)
http://mediamatters.org/research/200703150011
“She is like the stereotypical — excuse the expression, but this is the way to — she’s the stereotypical bitch, you know what I mean?” -Beck

Yea im sure Hillary calls herself a stereotypical bitch all the time

IF Goldline is doing something wrong, Mr. -0bama’s dupes at the Federal Trade Commission would have already been on them like the white on rice. This makes Weiner’s and “Rat-again’s” accusations nothing but more liberal lies and smears. If a liberal has no valid argument against an individual, this is their modus operandi.

@troll4libs…..”I dont believe Obama is capable of totally transforming America towards to pure socialism/communist ; but I do thinks his views are based in that thinking.”

What has he manifested from this ideology, in his presidency? you say he owns the banks,seems like the banks own him. What kind of leftist would throw single payer out the first day of h.c. negotiations. And then meet with the executives of the insurance companies behind closed doors. Apparently to force us all into their anti trust exempt status ponzi schemes.

Fuck! I wish Obama was a socialist. We middle classers would atleast be getting something out of it, besides more debt at the hands of too big too fail institutions!

“I do not believe most of the religious end of days crap”

see we can agree on something :)

valk, those roving bands of illegal Hispanics are already here.

@pyrope: Goldline isn’t doing anything illegal and part of the BBB standards is that they have a clear contract, so those who buy into the program should know what they’re getting. IOW: There’s nothing to involve the FTC.

The “problem” is that just like in the housing bubble, the people who buy in are betting that the price will only go up, not down and they’re being encouraged in their beliefs by people they trust, plus there’s a misunderstanding of what would be a proper mark-up or commission..

Again, look at the previously-linked Forbes explanation and/or the two services suggested by the Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal.

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@ Magister. Thank you for your clarification. I learned today that Goldline is considered a “AAA” company by some rating organization. Of course, commodities–like the stock market–is fundamentally legalized gambling. While I do not deal with Goldline, I do own some precious metals and knew going in that I could become very wealthy, lose my shirt, or end up somewhere in between. That said, didn’t I hear something about Mr. Weiner’s shady dealings a while back? Why are the liberal media not looking in his corner for some dirt? Oh, could it be because he, too, is a liberal? Coincidences can be amazing, can’t they?

I can tell you who Glenn Beck has NOT attacked – anyone identified as an enemy of this country.

Glenn is one more “conservative” tough guy who’s really fierce, leading the charge from his easy chair, who has never been in the military – like Rush, Bill O., Hannity, Newt, Dick Cheney, Ann Coulter or Michelle Malkin (who, at least a short time ago were still young enough to enlist), Bill Kristol, Dennis Miller, JD Hayworth, Phil Gramm, etc.

@pyrope: I’ve played metals via mining stock and as I said somewhere way up top in this thread, when I fourteen or fifteen, I dealt in silver coins. As for Rep. Weiner, I remember hearing something about some questions a while back, something I most likely heard from non-Fox media and I assume the questions were answered and any complaints resolved. Otherwise, I’m sure it’s being taken into consideration by his constituents.