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	<title>Comments on: End Of Detente? Olbermann Makes Murdoch His &#8220;Worst Person&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: germ</title>
		<link>http://www.mediaite.com/tv/end-of-detente-olbermann-makes-murdoch-his-worst-person/#comment-8861</link>
		<dc:creator>germ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@carlb57 oh yes, because the hosts and guests you mention continually invite and applaud guests that call the other side &quot;racists, teabagging rednecks.&quot; Where was the outrage from that?  The Fox News hosts at least invite the alternate view when debating the stories.  

Although I can&#039;t stand Hannity he does give half of his show to a roundtable discussion that has one conservative (doesn&#039;t always champion Hannity&#039;s views), one liberal, and one entertainer (views that are liberal and conservative).  They even have a civil discussion without yelling at eachother.

That can&#039;t be said for Olbermann or Maddow.  When I was watching Maddow the other day she had leader from one of the anti-ObamaCare movements (think it was the Americans for Prosperity President?) and flat out called him &quot;sick&quot;, &quot;a parasite&quot;, and a &quot;disgrace&quot; to his face.  Gee, that sure seems civil now, doesn&#039;t it?

With Olbermann you are more likely to find him debating an actual &quot;V&quot; than anyone with opposing views than his and he often applauds those that are in line with his hate and anger.  See Janeane Garofalo.

No matter your personal bias, you will see much more civility with the Fox News hosts than you will ever find on Matthews&#039;, Olbermann&#039;s, or Maddow&#039;s shows with discussing dissenting opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@carlb57 oh yes, because the hosts and guests you mention continually invite and applaud guests that call the other side &#8220;racists, teabagging rednecks.&#8221; Where was the outrage from that?  The Fox News hosts at least invite the alternate view when debating the stories.  </p>
<p>Although I can&#8217;t stand Hannity he does give half of his show to a roundtable discussion that has one conservative (doesn&#8217;t always champion Hannity&#8217;s views), one liberal, and one entertainer (views that are liberal and conservative).  They even have a civil discussion without yelling at eachother.</p>
<p>That can&#8217;t be said for Olbermann or Maddow.  When I was watching Maddow the other day she had leader from one of the anti-ObamaCare movements (think it was the Americans for Prosperity President?) and flat out called him &#8220;sick&#8221;, &#8220;a parasite&#8221;, and a &#8220;disgrace&#8221; to his face.  Gee, that sure seems civil now, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>With Olbermann you are more likely to find him debating an actual &#8220;V&#8221; than anyone with opposing views than his and he often applauds those that are in line with his hate and anger.  See Janeane Garofalo.</p>
<p>No matter your personal bias, you will see much more civility with the Fox News hosts than you will ever find on Matthews&#8217;, Olbermann&#8217;s, or Maddow&#8217;s shows with discussing dissenting opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: carolb57</title>
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		<dc:creator>carolb57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Olbermann&#039;s &quot;hate and anger&quot; is child&#039;s play compared to the vicious venom that comes out of the mouths of Beck and Hannity (and sometimes O&#039;Reilly) on a daily basis, not to mention their equally vicious guests, Limbaugh, Malkin, Ingraham, Levin, Coulter, Bozell, Hewitt and every other rightwing talk show nut out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olbermann&#8217;s &#8220;hate and anger&#8221; is child&#8217;s play compared to the vicious venom that comes out of the mouths of Beck and Hannity (and sometimes O&#8217;Reilly) on a daily basis, not to mention their equally vicious guests, Limbaugh, Malkin, Ingraham, Levin, Coulter, Bozell, Hewitt and every other rightwing talk show nut out there.</p>
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		<title>By: hkyplayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>hkyplayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its the jealous Olbermann again...He probably sent his resume 100 times over the last two years to FOX News and never got a reply... When you put so much hate and anger into a competitor, its obvious he is jealous..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its the jealous Olbermann again&#8230;He probably sent his resume 100 times over the last two years to FOX News and never got a reply&#8230; When you put so much hate and anger into a competitor, its obvious he is jealous..</p>
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		<title>By: realitycheck</title>
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		<dc:creator>realitycheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;but in this case, he nailed Fox fairly well. &quot; 

The possibility Olbermann nailing anything, including the truth, is a ridiculous notion. 

I don&#039;t get it, why are you all so invested in Olbermann? He does nothing for your cause. You throw in a little criticism of him, but no one is buying that. Why??? why????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but in this case, he nailed Fox fairly well. &#8221; </p>
<p>The possibility Olbermann nailing anything, including the truth, is a ridiculous notion. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get it, why are you all so invested in Olbermann? He does nothing for your cause. You throw in a little criticism of him, but no one is buying that. Why??? why????</p>
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		<title>By: ImNotBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>ImNotBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Olbermann illustrates is the difference between a network with goals and actual leadership.  FNC made the decision early on not to get involved in a pissing match between themselves and MSNBC... afterall, as the big dog, punching down is never a good strategy.  So Olbermann ups the ante, and the folks at FNC get more annoyed that he bashes and lies about them nightly.  Finally, they get fed up, lay the smack-down on NBC and GE, and all of a sudden, GE isn&#039;t so happy with MSNBC&#039;s big mouth.

MSNBC, on the other hand, has been run without leadership for a long time.  The hosts were allowed to do as they please, say whatever they want, do whatever they want, because nobody was paying attention.  KO&#039;s nightly hate-fest started to pull in some good ratings (relatively speaking, of course), so that became the template... with Maddow and Schultz being brought on, and Schuster and Matthews falling in line.

The difference is, FNC built its strategy around its goals... MSNBC built its strategy around its &quot;talent.&quot;  This is the difference, and why the folks on MSNBC are allowed to say crazy things (or not show up for work on an important night), without fear or repercussions... THEY run the network, not the management.

Proof?  Ask Mediaite&#039;s founder, Dan Abrams, why it was Keith Olbermann who bragged that he caused Dan to get the boot from the management team.  KO wields the power over there, not the management... and that&#039;s no way to run a company.

This story is just another, KO spinning to make FOX look bad, even when there&#039;s nothing to complain about... and the people who &lt;i&gt;want&lt;/i&gt; to believe follow in lock step.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Olbermann illustrates is the difference between a network with goals and actual leadership.  FNC made the decision early on not to get involved in a pissing match between themselves and MSNBC&#8230; afterall, as the big dog, punching down is never a good strategy.  So Olbermann ups the ante, and the folks at FNC get more annoyed that he bashes and lies about them nightly.  Finally, they get fed up, lay the smack-down on NBC and GE, and all of a sudden, GE isn&#8217;t so happy with MSNBC&#8217;s big mouth.</p>
<p>MSNBC, on the other hand, has been run without leadership for a long time.  The hosts were allowed to do as they please, say whatever they want, do whatever they want, because nobody was paying attention.  KO&#8217;s nightly hate-fest started to pull in some good ratings (relatively speaking, of course), so that became the template&#8230; with Maddow and Schultz being brought on, and Schuster and Matthews falling in line.</p>
<p>The difference is, FNC built its strategy around its goals&#8230; MSNBC built its strategy around its &#8220;talent.&#8221;  This is the difference, and why the folks on MSNBC are allowed to say crazy things (or not show up for work on an important night), without fear or repercussions&#8230; THEY run the network, not the management.</p>
<p>Proof?  Ask Mediaite&#8217;s founder, Dan Abrams, why it was Keith Olbermann who bragged that he caused Dan to get the boot from the management team.  KO wields the power over there, not the management&#8230; and that&#8217;s no way to run a company.</p>
<p>This story is just another, KO spinning to make FOX look bad, even when there&#8217;s nothing to complain about&#8230; and the people who <i>want</i> to believe follow in lock step.</p>
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		<title>By: TfT</title>
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		<dc:creator>TfT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it&#039;s petty at all.  Really, Olbermann has NO show without FNC.  His personal attacks are outrageous and they deserve to be countered.

Agenda?   &quot;It is my job to make sure this President succeeds&quot; - Chris Matthews on the air.  

I&#039;ll stick with FNC like most other cable news hounds (see ratings).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s petty at all.  Really, Olbermann has NO show without FNC.  His personal attacks are outrageous and they deserve to be countered.</p>
<p>Agenda?   &#8220;It is my job to make sure this President succeeds&#8221; &#8211; Chris Matthews on the air.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll stick with FNC like most other cable news hounds (see ratings).</p>
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