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		<title>By: sarainitaly</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarainitaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out of 95 Worst persons awarded, 91 were to Conservatives, 2 to Dems, 2 to Indys.</description>
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		<title>By: ImNotBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>ImNotBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;m says: 
October 23, 2009 at 9:17 am&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s a good thing we have you around to tell other people what they really believe.

Oh, and by the way... Olbermann, just this week, said on his show that he &quot;sometimes does opinion,&quot; but mostly presents the facts.  And has said numerous times that he&#039;s not biased, he&#039;s &quot;just right.&quot;  Your selective outrage is hardly suprising... but thankfully, it&#039;s hardly convincing either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>m says:<br />
October 23, 2009 at 9:17 am</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good thing we have you around to tell other people what they really believe.</p>
<p>Oh, and by the way&#8230; Olbermann, just this week, said on his show that he &#8220;sometimes does opinion,&#8221; but mostly presents the facts.  And has said numerous times that he&#8217;s not biased, he&#8217;s &#8220;just right.&#8221;  Your selective outrage is hardly suprising&#8230; but thankfully, it&#8217;s hardly convincing either.</p>
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		<title>By: timzank</title>
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		<dc:creator>timzank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference is, NBC and MSNBC label themselves as journalists reporting the news. Beck &amp; Hannity make no such claims. They are admittedly &quot;opinion&quot; shows by pundits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference is, NBC and MSNBC label themselves as journalists reporting the news. Beck &amp; Hannity make no such claims. They are admittedly &#8220;opinion&#8221; shows by pundits.</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
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		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Beck and Hannity plainly say they are conservative, as opposed to Olbermann denying any bias (hack).

Last time I checked Beck claimed to be independent and a &quot;libertarian&quot; - every time he says &quot;Democrats&quot; he has to add &quot;and Republicans too&quot; in order to further his faux non-partisan independence. He&#039;s a conservative down to the bone.

O&#039;Reilly claims somehow he&#039;s independent too by calling himself &quot;a traditionalist&quot; (which basically is conservatism with another name) - not mentioning that he&#039;s a registered Republican: http://www.oreilly-sucks.com/images/registration1.jpg O&#039;Reilly is a conservative down to the bone.

Olbermann? He has called himself a liberal on air multiple times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Beck and Hannity plainly say they are conservative, as opposed to Olbermann denying any bias (hack).</p>
<p>Last time I checked Beck claimed to be independent and a &#8220;libertarian&#8221; &#8211; every time he says &#8220;Democrats&#8221; he has to add &#8220;and Republicans too&#8221; in order to further his faux non-partisan independence. He&#8217;s a conservative down to the bone.</p>
<p>O&#8217;Reilly claims somehow he&#8217;s independent too by calling himself &#8220;a traditionalist&#8221; (which basically is conservatism with another name) &#8211; not mentioning that he&#8217;s a registered Republican: <a href="http://www.oreilly-sucks.com/images/registration1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.oreilly-sucks.com/images/registration1.jpg</a> O&#8217;Reilly is a conservative down to the bone.</p>
<p>Olbermann? He has called himself a liberal on air multiple times.</p>
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		<title>By: rmbltmbl</title>
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		<dc:creator>rmbltmbl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beck and Hannity plainly say they are conservative, as opposed to Olbermann denying any bias (hack).  I love the lack of examples in all this nonsense from top admin. officials and now Obama..  All they can come up is words like perspective and talk radio, how about some facts?  And what kind of priority is this???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beck and Hannity plainly say they are conservative, as opposed to Olbermann denying any bias (hack).  I love the lack of examples in all this nonsense from top admin. officials and now Obama..  All they can come up is words like perspective and talk radio, how about some facts?  And what kind of priority is this???</p>
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		<title>By: matt111</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt111</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 04:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Olbermann is foul and boring.  So are Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck and the people who take them seriously.  Idiots come from both the left and the right.

LOL, the people here claiming it&#039;s apples and oranges are looking at one example of the Bush admin&#039;s criticism of the media (a tree) and ignoring the forest.  Silly...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Olbermann is foul and boring.  So are Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck and the people who take them seriously.  Idiots come from both the left and the right.</p>
<p>LOL, the people here claiming it&#8217;s apples and oranges are looking at one example of the Bush admin&#8217;s criticism of the media (a tree) and ignoring the forest.  Silly&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: StewartIII</title>
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		<dc:creator>StewartIII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NewsBusters: Olbermann Slammed Bush Administration For Criticizing NBC
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/10/22/olbermann-criticized-bush-adminstrations-rebuke-nbc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NewsBusters: Olbermann Slammed Bush Administration For Criticizing NBC<br />
<a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/10/22/olbermann-criticized-bush-adminstrations-rebuke-nbc" rel="nofollow">http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/10/22/olbermann-criticized-bush-adminstrations-rebuke-nbc</a></p>
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		<title>By: TfT</title>
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		<dc:creator>TfT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad the other networks finally stood up to the One and told him to stuff it regarding excluding (or trying to) FNC from the pool report interview with the Pay Czar.

I though for sure that would be a big headline here.

Obama lost this battle, I hope he moves on now.  The game today was a play too foul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad the other networks finally stood up to the One and told him to stuff it regarding excluding (or trying to) FNC from the pool report interview with the Pay Czar.</p>
<p>I though for sure that would be a big headline here.</p>
<p>Obama lost this battle, I hope he moves on now.  The game today was a play too foul.</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
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		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Hell, it’s not like any of those three were ANCHORING the presidential elections.

Brit Hume anchored. He is a conservative, not non-partisan. He writes for the conservative Weekly Standard.

&gt;So, I ask again, what was the catalyst for this attack on FOX?

About every single thing Fox News has done since 1996.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Hell, it’s not like any of those three were ANCHORING the presidential elections.</p>
<p>Brit Hume anchored. He is a conservative, not non-partisan. He writes for the conservative Weekly Standard.</p>
<p>&gt;So, I ask again, what was the catalyst for this attack on FOX?</p>
<p>About every single thing Fox News has done since 1996.</p>
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		<title>By: Zakk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zakk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a legitimate defense. 

All three networks to opinion after 5, what&#039;s the big deal? I don&#039;t think FOX has tried to hide the fact that Beck, O&#039;Relly, Hannity or Greta are opinion. Hell, it&#039;s not like any of those three were ANCHORING the presidential elections.

So, I ask again, what was the catalyst for this attack on FOX? Was it one particular story where FOX edited some footage or was it when Beck showed VanJones to be a truther? Or, was it when the opinion people started to point out all of the problems with the healthcare bill? 

I still believe that the entire fight is BS and the WH is just trying to distract from their own problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a legitimate defense. </p>
<p>All three networks to opinion after 5, what&#8217;s the big deal? I don&#8217;t think FOX has tried to hide the fact that Beck, O&#8217;Relly, Hannity or Greta are opinion. Hell, it&#8217;s not like any of those three were ANCHORING the presidential elections.</p>
<p>So, I ask again, what was the catalyst for this attack on FOX? Was it one particular story where FOX edited some footage or was it when Beck showed VanJones to be a truther? Or, was it when the opinion people started to point out all of the problems with the healthcare bill? </p>
<p>I still believe that the entire fight is BS and the WH is just trying to distract from their own problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least when Bush banned the New York Times from his plane and refused to grant them an interview, he allowed Cheney to keep the Judith Miller false intelligence pipeline open so they&#039;d have something to lie about on the Sunday shows.

Of course, the Times kept it&#039;s &quot;Bush illegally spying on Americans&quot; story under wraps until after the 04&#039; elections in hopes of currying favor with the Republicans, but alas to no avail.

I guess Obama will have to check on the Republican playbook of planting faux reporters in news conferences, paying &quot;independent columnists&quot; to write favorable stories of their policies, staging mock news conferences with FEMA employees, planting ex-military officers with vested interests as &quot;independent&quot; war advisors on news networks, etc.

Obama&#039;s guys need to call in Ari Fleischer on how to warn people &quot;to watch what they say&quot;, they&#039;re just new to this game and need a little help from the propaganda pros!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least when Bush banned the New York Times from his plane and refused to grant them an interview, he allowed Cheney to keep the Judith Miller false intelligence pipeline open so they&#8217;d have something to lie about on the Sunday shows.</p>
<p>Of course, the Times kept it&#8217;s &#8220;Bush illegally spying on Americans&#8221; story under wraps until after the 04&#8242; elections in hopes of currying favor with the Republicans, but alas to no avail.</p>
<p>I guess Obama will have to check on the Republican playbook of planting faux reporters in news conferences, paying &#8220;independent columnists&#8221; to write favorable stories of their policies, staging mock news conferences with FEMA employees, planting ex-military officers with vested interests as &#8220;independent&#8221; war advisors on news networks, etc.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s guys need to call in Ari Fleischer on how to warn people &#8220;to watch what they say&#8221;, they&#8217;re just new to this game and need a little help from the propaganda pros!</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
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		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;What exactly is the reason for the WH stating FOX is not a news organization? 

Opinion. The same argument Fox News uses in its defense against that claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;What exactly is the reason for the WH stating FOX is not a news organization? </p>
<p>Opinion. The same argument Fox News uses in its defense against that claim.</p>
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		<title>By: sarainitaly</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarainitaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, what these three said! 

How dare the President get upset when a network edits and falsely reports what he said! 

And Olbermann is disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, what these three said! </p>
<p>How dare the President get upset when a network edits and falsely reports what he said! </p>
<p>And Olbermann is disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: CaptainAmerica</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaptainAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone even bother to check the articles submitted before they are published?  Why is this even supposedly &quot;news&quot; or a &quot;flashback&quot;?  

This is apples and oranges.

Specific examples given by the White House compared to the b.s. of what the White House is doing these days.  

Why are you wasting the bandwidth with this nonsense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone even bother to check the articles submitted before they are published?  Why is this even supposedly &#8220;news&#8221; or a &#8220;flashback&#8221;?  </p>
<p>This is apples and oranges.</p>
<p>Specific examples given by the White House compared to the b.s. of what the White House is doing these days.  </p>
<p>Why are you wasting the bandwidth with this nonsense?</p>
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		<title>By: Zakk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zakk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when a news organization doctors footage of an interview with the President and the White House says, hey! You doctored that footage, you should show what really happened - that is somehow compared to the White House stating &#039;you are not a real news organization&#039;? What exactly is the reason for the WH stating FOX is not a news organization? What is the example they are using? Because according to your article above, the Bush WH had a reason to be upset with MSNBC. They doctored a video!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when a news organization doctors footage of an interview with the President and the White House says, hey! You doctored that footage, you should show what really happened &#8211; that is somehow compared to the White House stating &#8216;you are not a real news organization&#8217;? What exactly is the reason for the WH stating FOX is not a news organization? What is the example they are using? Because according to your article above, the Bush WH had a reason to be upset with MSNBC. They doctored a video!</p>
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		<title>By: ImNotBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>ImNotBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two points:

1) As I mentioned in another thread today, pointedly going after a news network for a SPECIFIC bit of bias (as your examples show) is part of the normal back-and-forth between the White House and the media.  The difference between the current attacks, and the previous ones, is that this is a blanket attack, with no specific focus, no specific &quot;outrage,&quot; just an unfocused effort to silence ALL criticism.  There is a big difference.

2) Yet again, video evidence and logic collide, proving Olbermann will do and say anything, despite the overt and blatant hypocrisy contained within.

Here&#039;s another example from this week...

Olbermann recently met with Obama… yet, back in 2006 he said the following on his program after Hannity (and others) met with Bush:

“The born again and the born talkers: The President takes 90 minutes worth of your taxpayer dollars to entertain right-wing radio yack-ers in the Oval Office,” 

and…

“In January, the President consulted with 13 former Secretaries of State and Defense about Iraq, spoke for 40 minutes, allowed discussion for 5 to 10 minutes. The figures for the 5 conservative radio show people is double that. Is there an explanation of that that does not include the President using the Oval Office for purely political purposes and even indirectly for political fund-raising?”

Why he feels it&#039;s acceptable to be such a gigantic hypocrite, IMO says a lot about how he views his audience.  Someone who respected their audience would feel self-conscious about this stuff... but KO knows that the audience is just going to eat it up because it&#039;s so pro-Liberal, it doesn&#039;t need to make sense.  In other words, KO thinks his audience is too stupid to notice or care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two points:</p>
<p>1) As I mentioned in another thread today, pointedly going after a news network for a SPECIFIC bit of bias (as your examples show) is part of the normal back-and-forth between the White House and the media.  The difference between the current attacks, and the previous ones, is that this is a blanket attack, with no specific focus, no specific &#8220;outrage,&#8221; just an unfocused effort to silence ALL criticism.  There is a big difference.</p>
<p>2) Yet again, video evidence and logic collide, proving Olbermann will do and say anything, despite the overt and blatant hypocrisy contained within.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another example from this week&#8230;</p>
<p>Olbermann recently met with Obama… yet, back in 2006 he said the following on his program after Hannity (and others) met with Bush:</p>
<p>“The born again and the born talkers: The President takes 90 minutes worth of your taxpayer dollars to entertain right-wing radio yack-ers in the Oval Office,” </p>
<p>and…</p>
<p>“In January, the President consulted with 13 former Secretaries of State and Defense about Iraq, spoke for 40 minutes, allowed discussion for 5 to 10 minutes. The figures for the 5 conservative radio show people is double that. Is there an explanation of that that does not include the President using the Oval Office for purely political purposes and even indirectly for political fund-raising?”</p>
<p>Why he feels it&#8217;s acceptable to be such a gigantic hypocrite, IMO says a lot about how he views his audience.  Someone who respected their audience would feel self-conscious about this stuff&#8230; but KO knows that the audience is just going to eat it up because it&#8217;s so pro-Liberal, it doesn&#8217;t need to make sense.  In other words, KO thinks his audience is too stupid to notice or care.</p>
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