RRKING appears . Luckily , I have my personal attorney Armando to explain this to me .

No, no, no… that can’t be. ALL the Dems said it was a waist of time for the states to sue because they guaranteed it was contitutional. What you mean Dems don’t know the Constitution from their a$$.

Uhh OH!!!

U-N-C-O-N-S-T-I-T-U-T-I-O-N-A-L

Works for me. Another blow to the individual mandate. Hopefully this case will get to the next layer of courts quickly.

Dictators are not doing so well lately. Power to the people.

Yes, this bill is unconstitutional.
However, the real reason to eject this bill is because is is BUTT UGLY bad!!!

First, this bill was more about controlling the economy than about health care.
Second, those perpetual Democratic talking points could have been solved in a 3 page bill. So what do you think the other thousands of pages are about?

HEHE!

Ouch Moderate!

Two judges say it’s unconstitutional.

Fourteen judges say it is constitutional.

He did not halt the implementation of the law so his opinion is pointless.

And this is a victory because? The Supreme Court will ultimately rule on it because it will get appealed, so this basicly extends the laws time even if it will be rules unconstitutional, which I doubt.

possibly said:
Two judges say it’s unconstitutional.

Fourteen judges say it is constitutional.

He did not halt the implementation of the law so his opinion is pointless.

Thank you.

But it’ll be ruled on in three years. We can get into this discussion again in 2014. Until then…who’s got the chips?

Actually, I’m questioning why, if one mandate is considered unconstitutional (which I could agree with) how is it that the entire law is as well?

bealzebubba said:
But it’ll be ruled on in three years. We can get into this discussion again in 2014. Until then…who’s got the chips?

Actually, I’m questioning why, if one mandate is considered unconstitutional (which I could agree with) how is it that the entire law is as well?

because the mandate funds the rest of the bill.

They’re basically choosing to “opt out.” So let them opt out of medicare as well, which is not constitutional.

This is the state that elected Rick Scott as Governor…. Just like Minnesota, Way to go Florida!!!!!

If this law is unconstitutional, so is, VA healthcare, Medicare and Medicaid.

All of us are now or have been forced to pay for these healthcare programs whether we ever use them or not.

In fact, there are millions of Americans who paid for Medicare coverage for 35-40 years but died before they ever used it. So to all of you tea partiers on Medicare, be careful what you’re asking for.

bealzebubba said:
Actually, I’m questioning why, if one mandate is considered unconstitutional (which I could agree with) how is it that the entire law is as well?

It doesn’t really matter except when counting legal points to argue. Without the mandate, the rest of the law is a moot point due to lack of funding.

That Ivy League education did Barry no good!

And he was a la w professor?

bawahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

possibly said:
He did not halt the implementation of the law so his opinion is pointless.

Then why are you talking about it, trog?

Another nail in the coffin of this lunatic-left d-crat socialist atrocity.

obozocare isn’t about healthcare. It’s about lunatic-left d-crat socialist CONTROL of one-sixth of the US economy, lunatic-left d-crat socialist WEALTH AND INCOME RE-DISTRIBUTION, lunatic-left d-crat socialist EXPANSION OF ABORTIONS WITH TAXPAYER MONEY and lunatic-left d-crat socialist NANNY STATE DICTATES to the American people.

possibly said:
He did not halt the implementation of the law so his opinion is pointless.

No, no, son.

This is the first time that a Fed judge ruled the ENTIRE bill was unconstitutional. The others were decisions on the mandate to buy insurance.

Bawahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

notsofast said:
Then why are you talking about it, trog?

To tell you to quit being a deadbeat and buy your health insurance like a good American.

The Lantern of Truth said:
RRKING appears . Luckily , I have my personal attorney Armando to explain this to me .

You mean Armwood? The Dutch Rudder of reasoned thought?

Hawk11 said:
They’re basically choosing to “opt out.” So let them opt out of medicare as well, which is not constitutional.

This is the state that elected Rick Scott as Governor…. Just like Minnesota, Way to go Florida!!!!!

Rick Scott is the governor of both Florida and Minnesota? How did he pass the residency requirement in both states?

possibly said:
To tell you to quit being a deadbeat and buy your health insurance like a good American.

You lost, loser!

LOL

notsofast said:
ruled

Ruled?

He wrote a meaningless t-party term paper. His ruling is as pointless as the gop vote to repeal.

Now get out there a get one of those free colonoscopys–brought to you by HCR.

notsofast said:
You lost, loser!

What did I lose?

I still have my healthcare plan.

Do you still have your Medicare that I’m paying for.

possibly said:
He wrote a meaningless t-party term paper. His ruling is as pointless as the gop vote to repeal.

hey, son- first ruling that ENTIRE bill is unconstitutional!

It is so meaningless that the networks won’t mention it tonight, right?

LMAO!

notsofast said:
You lost, loser!

LOL

Lost what?

there is only one judge whose decision matters…anthony kennedy.

possibly said:
Now get out there a get one of those free colonoscopys–brought to you by HCR.

Those aren’t free, son and tell me, why do they put the colonoscope down YOUR throat?

Your proctologist called- he just found your head.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
And this is a victory because? The Supreme Court will ultimately rule on it because it will get appealed, so this basicly extends the laws time even if it will be rules unconstitutional, which I doubt.

Sounds like in addition to thinking it will ultimately be ruled Constitutional that you probably think it’s Constitutional.

Here’s the 10th Amendment: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

So, given how adamantly that says that everything but the enumerated powers is off limits to the feds, they have NO powers outside what is explicitly granted to them.

So, if the 10th Amendment is real, in your eyes, WHAT LIMITS ACTUALLY EXIST ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?

notsofast said:
first ruling that ENTIRE bill is unconstitutional!

It is so meaningless that the networks won’t mention it tonight, right?

LMAO!

Okay, now I see you’re a typical ignorant tea partier.

When did then judge say the implementation should stop?

ChiliPeppersFan said:
anthony kennedy.

Does he also kill women by driving them off bridges in a car and walking away?

ChiliPeppersFan said:
there is only one judge whose decision matters…anthony kennedy.

You’re absolutely right.

notsofast said:
Does he also kill women by driving them off bridges in a car and walking away?

Wow you’re ignorant.

Anthony Kennedy is not related to the Ted Kennedy family.

possibly said:
Anthony Kennedy is not related to the Ted Kennedy family.

Bawahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

“Comprehensive health insurance is an idea whose time has come in America. There has long been a need to assure every American financial access to high quality health care. As medical costs go up, that need grows more pressing.” — Republican President Nixon’s special message to Congress proposing a “Comprehensive Health Insurance Plan,” February 6, 1974

snatchax said:
because the mandate funds the rest of the bill.

Ah yes.

I wonder what means for anyone who was covered by insurance for various procedures or during the time the law was active.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
ChiliPeppersFan says:
January 31, 2011 at 5:05 pm ChiliPeppersFan(Quote)

He was universally hated, son. Try again.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
“Comprehensive health insurance is an idea whose time has come in America. There has long been a need to assure every American financial access to high quality health care. As medical costs go up, that need grows more pressing.” — Republican President Nixon’s special message to Congress proposing a “Comprehensive Health Insurance Plan,” February 6, 1974

There’s a hell of an endorsement. What else did he say? Oh yeah, “I am not a crook.”

notsofast said:
He was universally hated, son. Try again.

he was only universally hated after he got caught. look at how many people still love the w.

3 years before it even hits the Supreme Court. Check.

possibly said:
Fourteen judges say it is constitutional.

Really? Who?

DeMint:

All Republican Senators have now joined to cosponsor the bill to repeal ObamaCare, S.192

A bill so nice, let’s kill it twice!

notsofast said:
He was universally hated, son. Try again.

Too bad laura bush killed someone lol

Daughter…

We are getting to a point in our national discussion… where really, what is there to discuss anymore?

Republicans have been brainwashed into thinking that they should fight for insurance companies for higher premiums, and for the ability to deny people that are already paying insurance.

I think we are drawing closer and closer to a civil war.. and I can’t say it really bothers me.

Against evolution? Against science? Against education? Against Health? Promote War? Want poor people to suffer? Even if they work hard?

I’m ready to fight you.

Snowspot said:
Too bad laura bush killed someone lol

Another one here just as sick as this guy :

BFD says : ” I think it’s only fair Bristol get 20,000 for speaking as an unwed mother.

As a matter of fact she should have another bastard child and raise her price to double that. “

Not a big deal in the least. McCollum filed this suit in perhaps the more conservative area in FL. He knew what he was getting. This was always going to the Supreme Court anyway.

Snowspot said:
We are getting to a point in our national discussion… where really, what is there to discuss anymore?

Republicans have been brainwashed into thinking that they should fight for insurance companies for higher premiums, and for the ability to deny people that are already paying insurance.

I think we are drawing closer and closer to a civil war.. and I can’t say it really bothers me.

Against evolution? Against science? Against education? Against Health? Promote War? Want poor people to suffer? Even if they work hard?

I’m ready to fight you.

Too bad ted kennedy killed someone lol

Daughter

possibly said:
Do you still have your Medicare that I’m paying for.

.
Why yes, I do and I’ll relish every penny of yours that I spend. :)

AngelPeters said:
3 years before it even hits the Supreme Court. Check.

Probably not, but maybe. Doesn’t much matter. From WaPo:

“The judge noted that declaratory relief is the functional equivalent of an injunction, and applied the long-standing presumption ‘that officials of the Executive Branch will adhere to the law as declared by the court.’ So in the case, the judge asserted that the declaratory relief should bind the parties. If the Obama administration wishes to impose the requirements of Obamacare upon the states, it will need to seek a stay of the opinion either from the judge, or from the 11th Circuit.”

That functionally kills it unless or until they manage to breathe new life into it.

Where is Anonymous Finch when we really need him?

Pablo said:
Probably not, but maybe. Doesn’t much matter. From WaPo:

That functionally kills it unless or until they manage to breathe new life into it.

No, it does not “functionally kill it” at all. This will eventually end up in front of the Supreme Court and all parties understood this from the very beginning.

Both sides have dropped the ball big time over the years when it comes to coherent health care policies. The judge did not say the current law was unconstitutional per se – only the individual mandate is and since it is so integral to the whole the entire law does not pass muster. Had Congress passed a single payer version of the law then most of the arguments against it would go away. I for one never want to be told by the Federal government I must engage in an activity just so they can regulate it.

Snowspot said:
We are getting to a point in our national discussion… where really, what is there to discuss anymore?

Republicans have been brainwashed into thinking that they should fight for insurance companies for higher premiums, and for the ability to deny people that are already paying insurance.

I think we are drawing closer and closer to a civil war.. and I can’t say it really bothers me.

Against evolution? Against science? Against education? Against Health? Promote War? Want poor people to suffer? Even if they work hard?

I’m ready to fight you.

Now, there’s an honest anti-American Leftist. 100% intolerant of any opposing viewpoints and ready to exercise that intolerance with violence. Thank you for displaying your fascist candor. But I didn’t know they allowed the use of computers in Tucson jails. BTW, that was really gutsy pleading “not guilty.”

This is a job for Lawyer Armwood !

Garth said:
No, it does not “functionally kill it” at all. This will eventually end up in front of the Supreme Court and all parties understood this from the very beginning.

The problem is if the government can’t collect any money until the Supreme Court rules then the budget tricks used to show how the law was paid for over a ten year period are wiped out. The intent was to collect money for ten years and pay out out for only six. If they only can collect for six then the impact on the deficit is negative by tens of billions instead of positive.

Davo said:
Now, there’s an honest anti-American Leftist. 100% intolerant of any opposing viewpoints and ready to exercise that intolerance with violence. Thank you for displaying your fascist candor. But I didn’t know they allowed the use of computers in Tucson jails. BTW, that was really gutsy pleading “not guilty.”

I just want my country back :)

Snowspot said:
I just want my country back :)

One thing Jared Lougner and Tea Baggers have in common?

They both love bringing guns to political rallies.

comparison 1/150

Witch Pelosi was right; we had to pass the Health Care bill to find out what kind of ASS-KICKING and HUMILIATION Obama would be doused with afterward. Today’s development was great to see, and we can hammer it right next to his face on Mount Rushmore that he and no one else is working to construct.

possibly said:
If this law is unconstitutional, so is, VA healthcare, Medicare and Medicaid. All of us are now or have been forced to pay for these healthcare programs whether we ever use them or not. In fact, there are millions of Americans who paid for Medicare coverage for 35-40 years but died before they ever used it. So to all of you tea partiers on Medicare, be careful what you’re asking for.

Medicare is not mandatory. You can choose to opt out of Medicare but if you do and then attempt to carry your own insurance you may find that most companies would not insure you. Medicaid is not mandatory. If you are poor enough you must apply for it. VA healthcare is also not mandatory.

possibly said:
Ruled? He wrote a meaningless t-party term paper. His ruling is as pointless as the gop vote to repeal. Now get out there a get one of those free colonoscopys–brought to you by HCR.

“Free” colonoscopies? Are you really that stupid?

Oh, snap!

In ruling against President Obama‘s health care law, federal Judge Roger Vinson used Mr. Obama‘s own position from the 2008 campaign against him, arguing that there are other ways to tackle health care short of requiring every American to purchase insurance.

“I note that in 2008, then-Senator Obama supported a health care reform proposal that did not include an individual mandate because he was at that time strongly opposed to the idea, stating that ‘if a mandate was the solution, we can try that to solve homelessness by mandating everybody to buy a house,’” Judge Vinson wrote in a footnote toward the end of the 78-page ruling Monday.

Snowspot said:
Snowspot says:
January 31, 2011 at 6:14 pm Snowspot(Quote)

One thing Jared has in common with libs? He is one.

josecuervoisgood said:
The problem is if the government can’t collect any money until the Supreme Court rules then the budget tricks used to show how the law was paid for over a ten year period are wiped out. The intent was to collect money for ten years and pay out out for only six. If they only can collect for six then the impact on the deficit is negative by tens of billions instead of positive.

People a lot smarter than you and me have taken all this into consideration. It’s been known since the bill was passed that whether or not the bill is constitutional will be settled in the Supreme Court. I’m really not concerned about it.

notsofast said:
One thing Jared has in common with libs? He is one.

Another thing? They’re nuts.

notsofast said:
One thing Jared has in common with libs? He is one.

Nah, you can tell he’s a crazy anti-government person, just like the lot of you. Plus, why would a liberal shoot a democratic congresswoman? I think the media just labeled him liberal so Republicans and Tea Baggers wouldn’t be butt-hurt .

I don’t see Liberals out there yelling for no government… sorrrry

Sarah says: WTF, when are we going to find out this Judge is a member of the” tea hate party”! Even the “sheep” should know, it’s the law until the final ruling! Since, illness doesn’t know if your’re a moron or not, thousands of teas may be effected by illness and will be using this law for the good intent it was made! At the rate of favorable increase, three years from now, good luck with that!

Snowspot said:
Plus, why would a liberal shoot a democratic congresswoman?

Because he’s nuts.

I think the media just labeled him liberal so Republicans and Tea Baggers wouldn’t be butt-hurt .

That wasn’t the media. That was his friends.

Progressives, do you feel that burgeoning sense of unease building in your gut? – That’s called MOMENTUM!

Conservatives, text, call, e-mail your reps not to stand down with just this victory, next up is dismantling the FedReg Bill (otherwise known as the Goldman Sachs preferential treatment sell-out).

Garth said:
People a lot smarter than you and me have taken all this into consideration. It’s been known since the bill was passed that whether or not the bill is constitutional will be settled in the Supreme Court. I’m really not concerned about it.

The great big hole in the budget this ruling will cause concerns me! One of the ways it was sold was as a plus for the deficit.

Did this judge consult Nancy Pelosi on what is Constitutional and what is not??? Does Chuck U Shumer know if the proper branch of government is handing down these decisions??? And just how did this piece of crap legislation make it past our “Constitutional Scholar”, Barack Hussein 0bama, anyway???

Did anyone notice how the SEIU pushed so hard for this legislation that 0bama rewarded them with a waiver from it??? Along with every other union in the country?

Snowspot said:
Nah, you can tell he’s a crazy anti-government person, just like the lot of you. Plus, why would a liberal shoot a democratic congresswoman? I think the media just labeled him liberal so Republicans and Tea Baggers wouldn’t be butt-hurt .

I don’t see Liberals out there yelling for no government… sorrrry

That’s because liberals want government to wipe their a@@es for them, sweetpea, otherwise they get butt-hurt. How’d that great big government work out for the people of Egypt? How is it working out for all of the socialist dictators of Europe???

From way back in 2008 – “if a mandate was the solution, we can try that to solve homelessness by mandating everybody to buy a house,” – Senator, (and presidential candidate) Barack Hussein 0bama. Words only have meaning if you are honest, Barry. Otherwise they are as cheap as your tired rhetoric.

ndanielson said:
That’s because liberals want government to wipe their a@@es for them, sweetpea, otherwise they get butt-hurt. How’d that great big government work out for the people of Egypt? How is it working out for all of the socialist dictators of Europe???

What exactly are you referring to?

America is socialist too, we have social security and medicaid, while healthcare is not socialist because you have to pay.

Pablo said:
Probably not, but maybe. Doesn’t much matter. From WaPo:

That functionally kills it unless or until they manage to breathe new life into it.

The 11th Circuit could very well grant a stay of Judge Vinson’s ruling.

How could you not want the country covered? Do you want some little girl you’ll never meet to die in a hospital bed with her teddybear because she was denied treatment?

Do any of you think of the consequences of your actions?

How many children have to die before you make healthcare mandatory?

It’s really sick.

Snowspot said:
How could you not want the country covered? Do you want some little girl you’ll never meet to die in a hospital bed with her teddybear because she was denied treatment?

Do any of you think of the consequences of your actions?

How many children have to die before you make healthcare mandatory?

It’s really sick.

yeah, what about the poor chillllren. Shocking I tell you.

Snowspot said:
What exactly are you referring to?

America is socialist too, we have social security and medicaid, while healthcare is not socialist because you have to pay.

ignorance is truly bliss!!!!!! Wow.

Snowspot said:
How could you not want the country covered? Do you want some little girl you’ll never meet to die in a hospital bed with her teddybear because she was denied treatment?

Do any of you think of the consequences of your actions?

How many children have to die before you make healthcare mandatory?

It’s really sick.

Nice fear mongering. The Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA) has been around since 1986. It requires hospitals to provide treatment to anyone at an emergency room, regardless of insurance or ability to pay.

Snowspot said:
What exactly are you referring to?

America is socialist too, we have social security and medicaid, while healthcare is not socialist because you have to pay.

That is why some of us want to take our country back. Or have you not been paying attention, sweetpea?

screwauger said:
yeah, what about the poor chillllren. Shocking I tell you.

Don’t forget that our “children” are now 26 years old, thanks to liberals and SCHIP. Mom and dad must continue to wipe their a$$es or people like snowsheep get butt-hurt.

Snowspot said:
How could you not want the country covered? Do you want some little girl you’ll never meet to die in a hospital bed with her teddybear because she was denied treatment?

Do any of you think of the consequences of your actions?

How many children have to die before you make healthcare mandatory?

It’s really sick.

Get an education, get a job, and you take care of as many of them as you want. Or we should let some conservatives decide how many you should support, for once. We are not all for destroying the planet, afterall, sweetpea.

Snowspot said:
Plus, why would a liberal shoot a democratic congresswoman?

That’s crazy talk.

Reminds me of Howard Cosell yelling “Down goes Frazier! Down goes Frazier!”

Don’t worry people, whether it’s the state courts, state’s rights, a freeze on funding, or something else, Obamacare will never see implimentation.

The Marxist coup organized by the Progressive Democrats and THEIR “Mainstream” Media is crumbling.

Today, Van Jones is taken to be someone who holds an unhealthy affection toward their Suburban!

Snowspot said:
How could you not want the country covered? Do you want some little girl you’ll never meet to die in a hospital bed with her teddybear because she was denied treatment?

Do any of you think of the consequences of your actions?

How many children have to die before you make healthcare mandatory?

It’s really sick.

These guys are just messing with you, Snow. You seem young and easy to tweak.

The truth is that the anti-American Left paints a picture appealing to emotions in those susceptible to being manipulated………………………”suckers,” we call ‘em back where I come from. You, my boy, are a “sucker”…………….unless, of course, you can provide examples and evidence of the little girl dying with her teddybear, or other children (as you claimed) dying for lack of health insurance.

You are new here and we welcome your input. But unless you want to be written-off as a bozo, you’d better bring your “A-game.” That means evidence and facts to back up what you say.

Davo said:
These guys are just messing with you, Snow. You seem young and easy to tweak. The truth is that the anti-American Left paints a picture appealing to emotions in those susceptible to being manipulated………………………”suckers,” we call ‘em back where I come from. You, my boy, are a “sucker”…………….unless, of course, you can provide examples and evidence of the little girl dying with her teddybear, or other children (as you claimed) dying for lack of health insurance. You are new here and we welcome your input. But unless you want to be written-off as a bozo, you’d better bring your “A-game.” That means evidence and facts to back up what you say.

Davo,
A post worthy of your icon!

ndanielson said:
That is why some of us want to take our country back. Or have you not been paying attention, sweetpea?

And before snowspot, aka butthurt, gets the wrong idea, I think that there is enough wealth in America to provide medical care and health care for all that need it. I just believe that the private sector knows how to run anything and everything efficiently and honestly. Two concepts that government throughout the history of man has proven to be incapable of achieving. We don’t need the EPA for clean air and water, but we do need an honest media, and a government that has authority to take out the real threats to honest commerce among men.

Davo said:
These guys are just messing with you, Snow. You seem young and easy to tweak.

The truth is that the anti-American Left paints a picture appealing to emotions in those susceptible to being manipulated………………………”suckers,” we call ‘em back where I come from. You, my boy, are a “sucker”…………….unless, of course, you can provide examples and evidence of the little girl dying with her teddybear, or other children (as you claimed) dying for lack of health insurance.

You are new here and we welcome your input. But unless you want to be written-off as a bozo, you’d better bring your “A-game.” That means evidence and facts to back up what you say.

+100

Snowspot said:
I just want my country back :)

then come on over and join the sensible side. The side where American dreams and morals are respected. You know, the RIGHT SIDE of Freedom.

Snowspot said:
How could you not want the country covered?

From the tired Lib/communist handbook that asks, “Do you want WHOLE CITIES to burn down because you won’t pay the firefighters their demanded 30% raise?” Libs love ‘frightening’ Grandma before they kill her with death panels. Laughably (and thankfully) the next two years are going to be absolutely miserable for LIBS. The only question is whether Lib media hacks like Krugman and Klein and Schultz and Couric (et al) will jump from skyscrapers in 2011 or wait until 2012?

I live in Maine (yeah I know) and I helped elect the new governor (R) and his largely republican cabinet and legislature. The first action he took was to join the national lawsuit against Obowmao care. The left in this state have been going nuts and the bias in the local rags and state run media has been fun to watch. You might know him, he recently told the NAACP to kiss his ass.

Point being, this is great news and Gov. LePage was right out there today making a public statement about the Florida finding. There may be hope. O/T read today the TP is threatening to run against Senator Snow RINO!!

Snowspot said:
How could you not want the country covered? Do you want some little girl you’ll never meet to die in a hospital bed with her teddybear because she was denied treatment?

Do any of you think of the consequences of your actions?

How many children have to die before you make healthcare mandatory?

It’s really sick.

Find some of these children and sponsor them. You foot the bills. You help raise money. It is people like you that expect government to support them and everything else that the disadvantaged cannot afford. Some are disadvantaged due to their own actions! And then people like you expect government taxpayers to treat them all equally. That is wrong and it is a disincentive to taking care of yourself, or taking care of others, because more and more everyone expects the government to do it for them.

NORBIT Jr. said:
Davo,
A post worthy of your icon!

Wink, wink.

NORBIT Jr. says:

Conservatives, text, call, e-mail your reps not to stand down with just this victory,

Sarah says: WTF,…… what victory?……. Nothing has changed and won’t for a few years, if then!

Congress exceeded the bounds of its authority in passing the Act with the individual mandate. That is not to say, of course, that Congress is without power to address the problems and inequities in our health care system. The health care market is more than one sixth of the national economy, and without doubt Congress has the power to reform and regulate this market. That has not been disputed in this case. The principal dispute has been about how Congress chose to exercise that power here.

Because the individual mandate is unconstitutional and not severable, the entire Act must be declared void. This has been a difficult decision to reach, and I am aware that it will have indeterminable implications. At a time when there is virtually unanimous agreement that health care reform is needed in this country, it is hard to invalidate and strike down a statute titled “The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.” …

Group Hug said:
Congress exceeded the bounds of its authority in passing the Act with the individual mandate. That is not to say, of course, that Congress is without power to address the problems and inequities in our health care system. The health care market is more than one sixth of the national economy, and without doubt Congress has the power to reform and regulate this market. That has not been disputed in this case. The principal dispute has been about how Congress chose to exercise that power here.

Because the individual mandate is unconstitutional and not severable, the entire Act must be declared void. This has been a difficult decision to reach, and I am aware that it will have indeterminable implications. At a time when there is virtually unanimous agreement that health care reform is needed in this country, it is hard to invalidate and strike down a statute titled “The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.” …

Congress has exceeded its authority since the passage of the 17th Amendment in 1913, and with the egregious and overreaching abuse of the commerce clause that was unleashed without restraint in 1942 with Wickard v. Filburn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn

The 17th Amendment changed politics forever in this country, and has been unconstitutional ever since.

Group Hug said:
Congress exceeded the bounds of its authority in passing the Act with the individual mandate. That is not to say, of course, that Congress is without power to address the problems and inequities in our health care system. The health care market is more than one sixth of the national economy, and without doubt Congress has the power to reform and regulate this market. That has not been disputed in this case.

The real function of the interstate commerce clause is so the feds can ENFORCE CONTRACTS entered into by mutually agreeable parties. The private parties decide the terms, and the feds hold the parties to their contractual commitments. The feds were NEVER supposed to dictate the terms.

The biggest cause of the abuse of Federal power can be traced back to one liberal hero, FDR. It was his court packing cronies that gave the commerce clause an endless amount of unconstitutional authority. “Legislating” for the “common good’, and ‘general welfare”, becomes anything liberals want to ram through their liberal courts. And the sheep haven’t a clue, or care until it affects them. And only then will they bleat, or applaud.

Slow down nd,
I can’t keep up with the thumbs ups!
lol

Norbit, I have a name for these clowns that suddenly have a fascination with how this country is run, but have no clue as to how their heroes do not – they are neopols. What they fail to recognize, but which anyone with a clue can spot a mile away, is that they are clueless and dismissive of the founding principles of this country, and how lost we are without those principles. To paraphrase Mr 0bama, we are: “no better, or no worse than any other country” without those principles! Think about that: we are no better than the Arab savages that he and his elite clowns bring to the table to sit with civilized nations. Neo pols.

ndanielson said:
Norbit, I have a name for these clowns that suddenly have a fascination with how this country is run, but have no clue as to how their heroes do not – they are neopols. What they fail to recognize, but which anyone with a clue can spot a mile away, is that they are clueless and dismissive of the founding principles of this country, and how lost we are without those principles. To paraphrase Mr 0bama, we are: “no better, or no worse than any other country” without those principles! Think about that: we are no better than the Arab savages that he and his elite clowns bring to the table to sit with civilized nations. Neo pols.

I like that neopol term, nd, and hope you don’t mind if I use it here & there.
Another term I like using over & over to get it into the discourse & lexicon is “THEIR Mainstream Media”, of course, referencing the dysfunctional left.

Snowspot said:
I don’t see Liberals out there yelling for no government… sorrrry

You don’t see conservatives out there yelling for no government either and, yes, you are sorry.

NORBIT Jr. said:
I like that neopol term, nd, and hope you don’t mind if I use it here & there.
Another term I like using over & over to get it into the discourse & lexicon is “THEIR Mainstream Media”, of course, referencing the dysfunctional left.

Feel free, my friend. Keep up the good fight. They would cause less harm to America, if they only were more dysfunctional!

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
And this is a victory because? The Supreme Court will ultimately rule on it because it will get appealed, so this basicly extends the laws time even if it will be rules unconstitutional, which I doubt.

Don’t quit your day job. There is NO DOUBT the Supreme Court will throw out ObamaCare. This case is NOT that hard. The government can’t make people buy anything.

Fine…dumbasses that don’t want subsidized healthcare insurance don’t have to buy it. Happy now? You go on being uninsured…natural selection at it’s finest!

libbyliberal said:
Fine…dumbasses that don’t want subsidized healthcare insurance don’t have to buy it. Happy now? You go on being uninsured…natural selection at it’s finest!

More correctly, we don’t want to SUBSIDIZE your health insurance. We’re happy to PURCHASE our own.

NORBIT Jr. said:
I like that neopol term, nd, and hope you don’t mind if I use it here & there.Another term I like using over & over to get it into the discourse & lexicon is “THEIR Mainstream Media”, of course, referencing the dysfunctional left.

You can pair with Neoconjobs like Lindsay Graham…

gordonbloyershow said:
Don’t quit your day job. There is NO DOUBT the Supreme Court will throw out ObamaCare. This case is NOT that hard. The government can’t make people buy anything.

Weee! where do I line up to place my bet? Maybe Gordy will bet some of that big YouTube money.

Wait….the government can’t make me buy something? I have to buy car insurance, or they will take my license and fine me.

Wait..the government can’t make me buy something? I have to buy Social Security and Medicare.

Wait..the government can’t make me buy something? I have to buy airbags in my car.

Wait..the government can’t make me buy something? I have to buy police protection.

Wait..the government can’t make me buy something? I have to buy a car inspection.

Wait..the government can’t make me buy something? Wanna bet?

The Tea Weasel said:
Weee! where do I line up to place my bet? Maybe Gordy will bet some of that big YouTube money.

Wait….the government can’t make me buy something? I have to buy car insurance, or they will take my license and fine me.

Wait..the government can’t make me buy something? I have to buy Social Security and Medicare.

Wait..the government can’t make me buy something? I have to buy airbags in my car.

Wait..the government can’t make me buy something? I have to buy police protection.

Wait..the government can’t make me buy something? I have to buy a car inspection.

Wait..the government can’t make me buy something? Wanna bet?

like I said, ignorance must truly be bliss. There is little hope for our nation with ignorance this pervasive.

The Tea Weasel said:
I have to buy car insurance, or they will take my license and fine me.

You don’t have to drive a car. And where did you get the license in the first place?

I have to buy Social Security and Medicare.

No you don’t. What if you don’t have a job? Besides, you don’t buy SS and Medicare. Those are taxes.

I have to buy airbags in my car.

You don’t have to buy a car. Lots of people don’t own cars. There is no mandate to buy airbags.

I have to buy police protection.

ZOMG! That’s extortion!!! No, wait. It’s local taxes. Which you generally don’t pay unless you own property. So you don’t “have to buy” police protection.

If you were half as smart as you think you’re clever…

It would be helpful if people would learn the differences between what state and local governments can do from what the federal government can do (i.e. read the tenth amendment to the U.S. Constitution).

The Tea Weasel said:
Weee! where do I line up to place my bet? Maybe Gordy will bet some of that big YouTube money. Wait….the government can’t make me buy something? I have to buy car insurance, or they will take my license and fine me. Wait..the government can’t make me buy something? I have to buy Social Security and Medicare. Wait..the government can’t make me buy something? I have to buy airbags in my car. Wait..the government can’t make me buy something? I have to buy police protection. Wait..the government can’t make me buy something? I have to buy a car inspection. Wait..the government can’t make me buy something? Wanna bet?

so obamacare is a tax, right

Apparently, the Florida judge’s decision is legally binding on the Hussein regime who must shut down implementation of CommieCare pending appeal of the ruling. But predictably, Hussein and his gang have stated they have no intention of obeying the law, and will keep moving forward with their evil regardless of what the federal judge says. Interesting.

What happens when Hussein Soetoro simply chooses to ignore other laws and just remain in power ala Hugo Chavez?

Davo said:
Apparently, the Florida judge’s decision is legally binding on the Hussein regime who must shut down implementation of CommieCare pending appeal of the ruling. But predictably, Hussein and his gang have stated they have no intention of obeying the law, and will keep moving forward with their evil regardless of what the federal judge says. Interesting. What happens when Hussein Soetoro simply chooses to ignore other laws and just remain in power ala Hugo Chavez?

Did they state that? I only read that they intended to get a legal waiver of the ruling from the next higher court which they have a legal right to try to get.