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Glenn Beck Hits Back At Sen. Rockefeller, Compares Fox News (And MSNBC?) To The Police

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Yesterday, Sen. Jay Rockefeller took a page from Ted Koppel’s book by saying that he wouldn’t mind saying “goodbye” to Fox News and MSNBC. Just like Koppel received harsh rebuttals from Bill O’Reilly and Keith Olbermann, Glenn Beck was ready to respond to Rockefeller, comparing a government wanting to shut down the media to bank robbers asking for less police.

Beck, in front of a live audience composed entirely of women (today’s episode was about food shopping, something men clearly know nothing about, then moved on to the senator’s father, David Rockefeller, using quotes to show that, like all the villains on the show recently, the man was a devout globalist. This may seem like a bit of a roundabout way to respond to the Rockefeller’s comments, especially given how the bank robber comparison had already done so fairly succinctly. However, it would appear that it’s all part of a theme that Beck has been building to, both on the show and in one of the trailers for the documentary on his Restoring Honor rally, about the things we pass on to our children. He used the Rockefellers as an example, President Obama and his father as an example, and (you better believe it) George Soros and his father as an example. And, it would seem, Beck’s father will be an example soon as well.

Beck brought out what looked like a Revolutionary War uniform that a woman had apparently found and a thrift store and claimed belonged to Beck’s father. The host promised we’d get that whole story next week.

We are definitely DVRing that one.

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  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    “then moved on to the senator’s father, David Rockefeller, using quotes to show that, like all the villains on the show recently, the man was a devout globalist.”

    What is it with this scumbag? Can’t he ever debate an issue without bringing your family and childhood into it.

    He may be rich and successful but he is morally bankrupt man.

  • JHC

    “And, it would seem, Beck’s father will be an example soon as well.”

    What about Becks mother? Looks like he is on the same track.

  • m

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    “then moved on to the senator’s father, David Rockefeller, using quotes to show that, like all the villains on the show recently, the man was a devout globalist.”

    What is it with this scumbag? Can’t he ever debate an issue without bringing your family and childhood into it.

    Glenn Beck is not a child pornographer. He said on his radio show that he’s not into child porn.

  • timzank

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    “then moved on to the senator’s father, David Rockefeller, using quotes to show that, like all the villains on the show recently, the man was a devout globalist.” What is it with this scumbag? Can’t he ever debate an issue without bringing your family and childhood into it. He may be rich and successful but he is morally bankrupt man.

    Big Rockefeller fan are ya?

  • m

    The fact that Glenn Beck is talking about the NWO/one world government is incredibly sad. Especially for his viewers who will think it’s true. Does Roger Ailes really believe this horseshit?

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    And if anyone knows about the morally bankrupt, it’s you BFD.

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    JHC said:
    “And, it would seem, Beck’s father will be an example soon as well.”

    What about Becks mother? Looks like he is on the same track.

    This is despicable. You should be ashamed of yourself.

  • Big Eddie

    Glenn Beck is a man for the times and we are damn lucky to have him . … No one has to knuckle under to any government scheme . Whatever happened to the metric system ? We rejected it .

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    And if anyone knows about the morally bankrupt, it’s you BFD.

    zing

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    This is despicable. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    Should be, Finch but isn’t.

  • JHC

    AnonymousFinch said:
    This is despicable. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    You should be ashamed of yourself for thinking that man is actually sane . While you continually egg him on in his insanity you are the one pushing him down that track. If you were decent you would ask him to seek help instead of praising his insanity.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Yeah Finch because anyone who doesn’t espouse the liberal theology is crazy!!

  • JHC

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    This is despicable. You should be ashamed of yourself. Should be, Finch but isn’t.

    Another one who could care less that this man is in serious need of help. You can pat yourself on the back when he reaches the end of his rope so to speak.

  • juan

    Hey, Soros and MediaMatters, how’s that BECK Boycott working out for ya?

  • juan

    m said:
    The fact that Glenn Beck is talking about the NWO/one world government is incredibly sad. Especially for his viewers who will think it’s true. Does Roger Ailes really believe this horseshit?

    Yes, we do and so do the majority of those who voted Nov. 2nd!

  • JHC

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Yeah Finch because anyone who doesn’t espouse the liberal theology is crazy!!

    And you are the one to judge which theology should be followed? Are you so enamored with youself that you somehow consider yourself the messiah returned?

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Are you so enamored with youself that you somehow consider yourself the messiah returned?

    I think you are confusing me with Obama and Soros.

    “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for”

    Barry Obama

    “I carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control otherwise they might get me into trouble.”

    “Yet, what is one to make of a child who believed he was God?”

    -George Soros

    You libs make this WAY too each!

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    You libs make this WAY too each!

    Calm down and pay attention to what ur writing.

  • JHC

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Are you so enamored with youself that you somehow consider yourself the messiah returned? I think you are confusing me with Obama and Soros. “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for” Barry Obama “I carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control otherwise they might get me into trouble.” “Yet, what is one to make of a child who believed he was God?” -George Soros You libs make this WAY too each!

    So you like using name calling.

    way to each? Nervousnes or subconcious slip.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    ….

    Don’t you have to go pick up mini-Mormon at soccer practice anyway?

  • SarahP

    Beck is a con artist, most thinking people understand this but frankly I couldn’t care less. This guy is comedy gold, so to those who actually think, sit back, relax and enjoy the show.

  • JHC

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    Don’t you have to go pick up mini-Mormon at soccer practice anyway?

    That one has a child? Unbelievable, in reading the threads here, that name has been posting continuously from at least noon today. That could be considered child neglect.

  • cjd ohio 1

    yeah, but rockefeller still said it

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    JHC says:

    That could be considered child neglect.

    Well, I don’t know about your child, but mine is at school during the day.

    And BFD, I did notice the spelling error as soon as I hit submit and was going to correct it, but it’s more fun to see if a lib will point it out.

  • JHC

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    JHC says: That could be considered child neglect. Well, I don’t know about your child, but mine is at school during the day. And BFD, I did notice the spelling error as soon as I hit submit and was going to correct it, but it’s more fun to see if a lib will point it out.

    So you admit you have done nothing today but post comments and school has been over for hours. I stand by my comment.

  • SarahP

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    JHC says:

    That could be considered child neglect.

    Well, I don’t know about your child, but mine is at school during the day.

    And BFD, I did notice the spelling error as soon as I hit submit and was going to correct it, but it’s more fun to see if a lib will point it out.

    You actually wait for liberals to point out your spelling errors? Does get a life mean anything to you?

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    No actually I also worked a full day. As for my son, he was over at his grandparents raking their leaves. Any other questions?

  • cjd ohio 1

    did rockefeller still say it

  • timzank

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    JHC says: That could be considered child neglect. Well, I don’t know about your child, but mine is at school during the day. And BFD, I did notice the spelling error as soon as I hit submit and was going to correct it, but it’s more fun to see if a lib will point it out.

    Most of the lefty loons posting here bashing you don’t have children I’m sure, and the handful that do aren’t raising them or paying for them anyway, the gubbermint is. These posters are fun for a laugh but for the most part are just soul-less, irresponsible leeches that need to be taken care of and told what to think and believe.

  • SarahP

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    No actually I also worked a full day. As for my son, he was over at his grandparents raking their leaves. Any other questions?

    Sure, why not. Are you a Glenn Beck insider? How many “books” by Beck have you bought? How many hours per day to listen / watch Glenn Beck? Just curious.

  • timzank

    SarahP said:
    Sure, why not. Are you a Glenn Beck insider? How many “books” by Beck have you bought? How many hours per day to listen / watch Glenn Beck? Just curious.

    Probably less time than you spend trolling liberal political websites I bet.

  • SarahP

    timzank said:
    Most of the lefty loons posting here bashing you don’t have children I’m sure, and the handful that do aren’t raising them or paying for them anyway, the gubbermint is. These posters are fun for a laugh but for the most part are just soul-less, irresponsible leeches that need to be taken care of and told what to think and believe.

    tim zank. I don’t know if you are serious or not but in any case, you are funny.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Are you a Glenn Beck insider? – no

    How many “books” by Beck have you bought? – none, but I did borrow a couple from my father

    How many hours per day to listen / watch Glenn Beck? – I do listen to him while I work

    Anything else?

  • timcajun

    Since the “right” has been talking about this “new world order” crap for the last 20 years and nothing has happened, could we mark this up to the loss side. I need a tea to do what they do best, start calling names because they don’t have anything, but hate and name calling!

  • cjd ohio 1

    a senator, censorship, what do you think

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    as I hit submit and was going to correct it, but it’s more fun to see if a lib will point it out.

    Yeah right michelle, you left it on purpose. You are so pathetic you cant even admit you made a mistake when it is right there for the whole world to see.

    You are truly a juvenile….”I MEANT TO DO THAT!!!” LOL

  • SarahP

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
     

    Favorite color?

  • justanotherconservative

    m said:
    The fact that Glenn Beck is talking about the NWO/one world government is incredibly sad. Especially for his viewers who will think it’s true. Does Roger Ailes really believe this horseshit?

    how do you know it’s not true?

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    BFD, I couldn’t possible care less if you believe me or not, it’s the truth. See the problem with you libs is you lie so much that you assume everyone else is always lying too. Now that’s pathetic.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Favorite color? – I have 2, red and black

  • SarahP

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    BFD, I couldn’t possible care less if you believe me or not, it’s the truth. See the problem with you libs is you lie so much that you assume everyone else is always lying too. Now that’s pathetic.

    Sure, that’s the problem.

  • timzank

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    a senator, censorship, what do you think

    That’s the scary part isn’t it? You’ve got a powerful sitting United States Senator that actually would like the FCC to shut down television broadcasts and the focus of THIS article was on Beck instead.

    Forest/Trees comes to mind Mediate.

  • JHC

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    No actually I also worked a full day. As for my son, he was over at his grandparents raking their leaves. Any other questions?

    The time sequence of your comments leave no time for work or anything else. It sounds obsessive or most likely an addiction, I would suggest you seek help, if not for yourself, for the sake of your child.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    BFD, I couldn’t possible care less if you believe me or not

    No, no…I believe you michelle.

    we all make our typos on purpose.

    It makes perfect cents.

    (i made that typo on purpose just to watch the Righty’s heads esplode!!)

  • cjd ohio 1

    looks like few care, just argue of beck, oh well

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    JHC said:
    The time sequence of your comments leave no time for work or anything else.

    She works from “home” and all the women at the office constantly praise her for how much more work she gets accomplished than everyone else.

    Also, she is a widow who refused the social security payments because she prefers to stand on her own two feet.

    The woman is a pathological liar. (if she is a woman lolol)

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    BFD, I didn’t say I made the typo on purpose. I said that I noticed it when I clicked submit, but by then it’s too late to fix it. I could’ve corrected it in another post, but didn’t.

    and JHC, I work at home on my computer, that’s why I’m always on it.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    I said that I noticed it when I clicked submit, but by then it’s too late to fix it. I could’ve corrected it in another post, but didn’t.

    Changing your story now, huh?

    “Left it on purpose” and “Too late to change it” are two completely different things.

    Pathological. Liar.

  • timzank

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    looks like few care, just argue of beck, oh well

    These guys admit over and over they don’t want free speech, they want their speech only.

  • SarahP

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    looks like few care, just argue of beck, oh well

    I agree with with you. Rockefeller is wrong on this.

  • JHC

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    She works from “home” and all the women at the office constantly praise her for how much more work she gets accomplished than everyone else. Also, she is a widow who refused the social security payments because she prefers to stand on her own two feet. The woman is a pathological liar. (if she is a woman lolol)

    That sounds just like the statements internet addicts make until they seek help or hit bottom. Lying does become a part of it because part of internet addiction is that you can make yourself whoever you want to be (which is incredibly addictive to those with low self esteem). The sad part is we have all seen the consequences when it involves children.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Anyway, I’m done with it.

    It’s such a small mistake I can’t believe anyone would actually lie about it. lol

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    She works from “home” and all the women at the office constantly praise her for how much more work she gets accomplished than everyone else. Also, she is a widow who refused the social security payments because she prefers to stand on her own two feet. The woman is a pathological liar. (if she is a woman lolol)

    The only thing you got wrong is the SS payments. I make too much to get them, but my son does. And when I said I left the tyypoon purpose, I was referring to why I didn’t post another comment acknowledging the error. Sorry BFD, I’m not a liar, no matter how much you libs like to think I am.

  • greg454

    I’m sick of government fascists telling us what we can’t watch. Besides, one man’s “news” is another man’s propaganda. If you watch CNN there are a lot of news they don’t cover, such as hate crimes against whites for example. Last thing we need is the government getting involved in the news business.
    http://politicallyincorrectlibertarian.wordpress.com/2010/11/18/rockefeller-wants-to-kill-fox-news-and-msnbc/

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    I make too much to get them

    I specifically remember you saying you turned the payments down but your son gets them.

    Pathological. Liar.

  • sarainitaly

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    a senator, censorship, what do you think

    well, you gave it a good try.

  • JHC

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    BFD, I didn’t say I made the typo on purpose. I said that I noticed it when I clicked submit, but by then it’s too late to fix it. I could’ve corrected it in another post, but didn’t. and JHC, I work at home on my computer, that’s why I’m always on it.

    The part of your statement that is true is obviously you are always on your computer. Yet anyone can look at the time sequence of your posts on every thread and see you could not have accomplished anything else but posting your comments. Unless someone pays you to post comments on this site all day, you are lying but more importantly you have a serious problem.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    BFD, I NEVER said that. You can’t get them if you make more than about $13,000 and I do. Perhaps we were talking about something akin to food stamps. I might be able to qualify for those (Idon’t know since I’ve never looked into them), but wouldn’t.

  • cjd ohio 1

    ahhh hell with it” food fight”

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    cjd, you’re funny. Sorry if we were ignoring you. I shouldn’t let myself get sucked in by these libs, but I just can’t help it!!

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    BFD, I NEVER said that. You can’t get them if you make more than about $13,000 and I do. Perhaps we were talking about something akin to food stamps. I might be able to qualify for those (Idon’t know since I’ve never looked into them), but wouldn’t.

    You ever see the documentary “Catfish”?
    It’s about a young guy who falls in love with a beautiful model on Facebook but when he drives cross country for a surprise visit she ends up being a fat housewife with two retarded children.

    Here’s the thing….you don’t end up mad at the woman for being such a pathological liar, you just feel sorry for her because her life is so pathetic.

    Yup. Good movie.

  • cjd ohio 1

    its cool have fun

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Well, as much fun as it’s been talking to someone who said I drove my husband to suicide and pals around with libs who said I have a retarded son and that I’m a horrible mother, I think I’m out for the night. Have a great night, BFD!! Enjoy wallowing in your hatefullness and anger.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Have a great night, BFD!!

    Bye Michelle!!! Expect a surprise visit from me soon!!!

  • Judge Mental

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    a senator, censorship, what do you think

    Seriously. At least Rockefeller apparently favors bipartisan censorship. Unlike, you know, our president.

  • JHC

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Well, as much fun as it’s been talking to someone who said I drove my husband to suicide and pals around with libs who said I have a retarded son and that I’m a horrible mother, I think I’m out for the night. Have a great night, BFD!! Enjoy wallowing in your hatefullness and anger.

    The sad thing is until he/she gets help he/she will not be able to stay away and will continue in that denial and defensiveness (name calling, belligerence etc.) until he/she realizes he/she has a very serious addiction.

  • ROCKSTEADY

    I never knew Becks mom was mentally challenged.Explains alot.

  • ROCKSTEADY

    JHC,don’t waste your time arguing.Most of these Beck lovers are Paid bloggers.So they are here 24/7.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-VS-Bond/500059990 Peter V.S. Bond

    Glenn, I love you. Watch you several times a week. Please check your facts. Jay Rockefeller is John Davison Rockefeller IV, the son of the late John D. Rockefeller III and his late wife Blanchette. David Rockefeller is Jay’s uncle and the youngest of 6 siblings. Don’t give MediaMatters more material than they need. This was a simple fact to verify.

  • BlackWidow

    JHC said:
    The sad thing is until he/she gets help he/she will not be able to stay away and will continue in that denial and defensiveness (name calling, belligerence etc.) until he/she realizes he/she has a very serious addiction.

    She was banned and came back twice with two different names. The woman is always angry and mental,

  • Big Eddie

    ROCKSTEADY said:
    I never knew Becks mom was mentally challenged.Explains alot.

    JHC said:
    The sad thing is until he/she gets help he/she will not be able to stay away and will continue in that denial and defensiveness (name calling, belligerence etc.) until he/she realizes he/she has a very serious addiction.

    You two sick son of a bitches can take a flying leap back into hell .

  • JHC

    BlackWidow said:
    She was banned and came back twice with two different names. The woman is always angry and mental,

    More indication of what a serious addiction she has. The child is who will pay the most for her not seeking help. That is one of the saddest pieces of addiction, imagine a child who can see that there is something else in its mothers or fathers life that is so much more important than he is. The consequences of that are enormous.

  • JHC

    Big Eddie said:
    You two sick son of a bitches can take a flying leap back into hell .

    Your hostility has no effect on anyone but yourself and therein lies the sickness.

  • equaljustice4u

    We need more people who isn’t afraid or in bed with Barry and friends……that you say Beck is crazy ONLY you can’t show us why!!!

    One thing you can’t deny is the fact that Beck tells his audience to do their own homework and NOT take his word for it………DO IT!!!

    And He provides video/audio to prove what people have said………AND IF YOU can’t believe their own words then you are insanely stupid. Whether it’s Soros or Van Jones (ADMITTED SOCIALIST—IN HIS OWN WORDS) to many others and organizations……WHY don’t you point out exactly what Beck has lied about………put it right here for all to read…………..put up or shut up………got it?

  • JHC

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Well, as much fun as it’s been talking to someone who said I drove my husband to suicide and pals around with libs who said I have a retarded son and that I’m a horrible mother, I think I’m out for the night. Have a great night, BFD!! Enjoy wallowing in your hatefullness and anger.

    That was 8:48 yet he/she has been posting on other threads since then. It is very sad to see the shame and the denial of an addict. This is a sad case indeed.

  • ROCKSTEADY

    equaljustice4u said:
    We need more people who isn’t afraid or in bed with Barry and friends……that you say Beck is crazy ONLY you can’t show us why!!! One thing you can’t deny is the fact that Beck tells his audience to do their own homework and NOT take his word for it………DO IT!!! And He provides video/audio to prove what people have said………AND IF YOU can’t believe their own words then you are insanely stupid. Whether it’s Soros or Van Jones (ADMITTED SOCIALIST—IN HIS OWN WORDS) to many others and organizations……WHY don’t you point out exactly what Beck has lied about………put it right here for all to read…………..put up or shut up………got it?

    Get a Life.

  • ROCKSTEADY

    equaljustice4u said:
    …………..put up or shut up………got it?

    And little un-American human just what are you gonna do about it?

  • equaljustice4u

    JHC,don’t waste your time arguing.Most of these Beck lovers are Paid bloggers.So they are here 24/7.

    ****

    So THAT’S your story?

    Jesus Man…….give us something to read about, like Beck’s lies?????

    You talk but you don’t say anything…………maybe you’re a paid poster???

    Put up or shut up!! dude………..

  • ROCKSTEADY

    equaljustice4u said:
    JHC,don’t waste your time arguing.Most of these Beck lovers are Paid bloggers.So they are here 24/7. **** So THAT’S your story? Jesus Man…….give us something to read about, like Beck’s lies????? You talk but you don’t say anything…………maybe you’re a paid poster??? Put up or shut up!! dude………..

    Again, Get a life. Or maybe this is it for you.Sad.I know ,you can go play with yourself as you watch Beck spew.

  • BlackWidow

    JHC said:
    That was 8:48 yet he/she has been posting on other threads since then. It is very sad to see the shame and the denial of an addict. This is a sad case indeed.

    Welcome to the madhouse. If you are into studying personalities you will have enough info from this website alone to write your next book!!

    Good luck

  • CosmosDan

    If the media are like the police , which is not a bad analogy, then we have to say that sometimes the police are corrupt as well,

  • equaljustice4u

    equaljustice4u said:
    JHC,don’t waste your time arguing.Most of these Beck lovers are Paid bloggers.So they are here 24/7. **** So THAT’S your story? Jesus Man…….give us something to read about, like Beck’s lies????? You talk but you don’t say anything…………maybe you’re a paid poster??? Put up or shut up!! dude………..
    Again, Get a life. Or maybe this is it for you.Sad.I know ,you can go play with yourself as you watch Beck spew.

    ************

    Admit it loser……..you know less than Beck’s dog.

    Another Beck hater who can’t think for himself……….zip your fly and go ask you mommy…………..jumbo!!

    You’l go bald if you play with that too much……y’hear dude/

  • Nahu Tuk

    How was it that David Rockefeller met his demise? Oh, yeah, of a heart attack while wallowing with a hooker.

    But that’s not the whole story. The old man was doing business with the Nazis during WW II. He was trading oil for industrial diamonds and brokered the deal for the Nordent bomb site. He got very rich off of that deal.

  • Nahu Tuk

    Bottom line: It’s about the loss of our Constituional Rights. I predicted long ago that when we lost our 2nd Amendment rights, the loss of our 1st Amendment rights would soon follow. It’s the same progression as what occurred during the rise of Adolf Hitler–except these goons are a lot smarter than Hitler; they have figured out how to avoid his mistakes.

  • ROCKSTEADY

    equaljustice4u said:
    You’l go bald if you play with that too much

    Is that what your mamma told ya son.

  • cjd ohio 1

    shit i though a hairy palm, be back later i have to shave

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Nahu Tuk said:
    How was it that David Rockefeller met his demise? Oh, yeah, of a heart attack while wallowing with a hooker.

    But that’s not the whole story. The old man was doing business with the Nazis during WW II. He was trading oil for industrial diamonds and brokered the deal for the Nordent bomb site. He got very rich off of that deal.

    Ummm its already been established that David Rockerfeller was Jays uncle and John D. Rockefeller III is his father.

    Which once again makes Beck a liar or a moron and you a complete dumbfuck for believing anything that comes out of his mouth.

  • Helix

    Nahu Tuk said:
    Bottom line: It’s about the loss of our Constituional Rights. I predicted long ago that when we lost our 2nd Amendment rights, the loss of our 1st Amendment rights would soon follow. It’s the same progression as what occurred during the rise of Adolf Hitler–except these goons are a lot smarter than Hitler; they have figured out how to avoid his mistakes.

    Try not to overestimate your enemy’s cunning, nor underestimate the Founder’s. The 2nd Amendment is self reinforcing, a political exercise in circular logic. Remember that there are 200 million guns, give or take a few million, out there, and any attempt to remove them is just suicide. The Founders did assume we would not act like helpless sheep, like Sen. Rockefeller would have us do. What you need is to have a fighting spirit. There are a lot of differences between pre-war Germany and the USA in 2010, and Sen. Rockefeller and his ilk have a lot less power than they would like, and a much worse starting position, given our people and our Constitution.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Helix said:
    Try not to overestimate your enemy’s cunning, nor underestimate the Founder’s. The 2nd Amendment is self reinforcing, a political exercise in circular logic. Remember that there are 200 million guns, give or take a few million, out there, and any attempt to remove them is just suicide. The Founders did assume we would not act like helpless sheep, like Sen. Rockefeller would have us do. What you need is to have a fighting spirit. There are a lot of differences between pre-war Germany and the USA in 2010, and Sen. Rockefeller and his ilk have a lot less power than they would like, and a much worse starting position, given our people and our Constitution.

    What’s all this talk about? I thought you took your country back two weeks ago?

    Doesn’t sound like it!!! lmfao

  • Helix

    We did,

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    What’s all this talk about? I thought you took your country back two weeks ago?

    Doesn’t sound like it!!! lmfao

    We did, just trying to help out another poster who is on my side but isn’t thinking too clearly. The election results on Nov. are just gravy. The 2nd Amendment is in no real danger for a variety of reasons, and same with the 1st Amendment too.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Helix said:
    We did,

    Oh, ok. Just checking cuz it sounded like you lost it again.

  • Helix

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    “then moved on to the senator’s father, David Rockefeller, using quotes to show that, like all the villains on the show recently, the man was a devout globalist.”

    What is it with this scumbag? Can’t he ever debate an issue without bringing your family and childhood into it.

    He may be rich and successful but he is morally bankrupt man.

    I did agree that Glenn went off topic rather quickly, by bringing the uncle/father thing up, which really distracted from the main issue IHMO of Sen. Rockefellers pro-censorship comment. At least most of the posters don’t seem to support Sen. Rockefeller’s point of view. Glenn’s family id mistake doesn’t help either. There is plenty to attack Sen. Rockefeller for without this sideshow.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Helix said:
    There is plenty to attack Sen. Rockefeller for without this sideshow.

    There was plenty to attack Soros for without going “there” either.

    Seems to be a pattern of his.

    Of course I don’t support the govt intrusion on the free press, but I have no problem with a politician voicing what he thinks is hurting this country. On the country, I respect it as long as he does it thoughtfully and civilly.

  • Helix

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    There was plenty to attack Soros for without going “there” either.

    Seems to be a pattern of his.

    Of course I don’t support the govt intrusion on the free press, but I have no problem with a politician voicing what he thinks is hurting this country. On the country, I respect it as long as he does it thoughtfully and civilly.

    For many conservatives, they treat Soros as an evil genius supervillain, kind of like Lex Luthor. While I will admit to enjoying this image as much as the next conservative, the adult actions of Mr. Soros, as a successful hedge fund manager, venture capitalist, currency speculator and progressive organization supporter are too complex to fit into a neat supervillain package. His support of the “Orange revolution” in the Ukraine is one example, where the real world results of his actions are not a clear cut picture. Even in the USA his influence has limits.

    On Rockefeller, his next couple of sentences, not mentioned by Glenn, unfortunately, show his desire to “slim down” the choices available(see link below). While I didn’t expect Rockefeller to be a Fox fan, where he crossed the red line for me is when he wanted MSNBC and FOX gone. Him saying Fox is hurting the country, I would disagree, but that is Rockefeller’s opinion(and I am sure he is not alone in that). In my book, more speech is always better, because people can choose for themselves what to keep and what to throw away on the rubbish bin of history.

    Here is the link from RCP:
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/11/17/sen_rockefeller_fcc_should_take_fox_news_msnbc_off_airwaves.html

  • PoliticalPAW

    Schultz guest actually insults him by noting Nazi refs that “trivialize an epic genocide” & r “beneath contempt” http://tinyurl.com/2fm4fr8

    Twitter.com/PoliticalPAW

  • disenlightened

    Never underestimate the capacity of Democrats to disregard or spit on the Constitution when it forbids them from fulfilling their maniacal and often criminal desires.

  • Upon Further Review

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    There was plenty to attack Soros for without going “there” either.

    Seems to be a pattern of his.

    Of course I don’t support the govt intrusion on the free press, but I have no problem with a politician voicing what he thinks is hurting this country. On the country, I respect it as long as he does it thoughtfully and civilly.

    You call it “thoughtful” that a senator thinks the FCC should shut down Fox News and MSNBC? I call it laughably stupid.

    Do you (and Rockefeller) not get the fact that the FCC has no power to regulate cable news stations? Here, I’ll quote the NYT: “There is little the Federal Communications Commission can say about Fox News or MSNBC since the channels are on cable, not delivered over the broadcast airwaves.”

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: Glenn Beck again knee caps lefties. Lefties stumble and fall.

  • Skeptical

    Hmm. David Rockefeller is actually West Virginia Senator J.D. Rockefeller IV’s UNCLE, not father (that would be J.D. Rockefeller III). But Glenn Beck always checks his facts! HA!

    And not to leave Beck’s ridiculous reasoning out of my attack. Shouldn’t the ‘apple not falling from far the tree’ mean that the next three generations of Rockefeller’s put together massive petroleum conglomerates? Or at least massive fortunes? Could it be that ‘the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree’ is just a dumb old saying?

    The only worthwhile thing I’ve ever heard Beck say was describing himself and Sarah Palin as “white trash”!

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Big_F-ing_Deal says:
    “What is it with this scumbag? Can’t he ever debate an issue without bringing your family and childhood into it.
    He may be rich and successful but he is morally bankrupt man.”

    You have to hand it to him; to be as morally bankrupt as he is but still have a following of millions who think that he has principles and tells the truth, that takes awesome talent. There are times that I stand in awe of Beck. It’s not just that he proves Lincoln to have been spot on with his observation that “you can fool some of the people all of the time,” it is that he pulls it off with arrogant ignorance. His confident self-righteousness speaks to his skill on one hand and to the lemming quality of his followers on the other.

    How many people do you know who used to follow Beck and somehow cracked open the door of the cave he rhetorically builds around his hypnotized flock? I know one; she sought me out. It took his turn this year toward God to wake her up.

    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/07/seeking-truth-on-road-from-supporter-to.html

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    disenlightened says:
    “Never underestimate the capacity of Democrats to disregard or spit on the Constitution”

    Never underestimate the capacity of right-wingers to turn a blind eye toward the nonsense that Beck spews about our Constitution. Only complete morons believe that the Constitution is held up by faith, hope and charity.

    (The correct answers are SCOTUS, public consent, national defense and pols who pledge to uphold it.)

    Then Beck, last summer, took the side of the mob and the hater Pamela Gellar over the Constitution’s 1st Amendment to oppose Part 51.The framers insisted on the Bill of Rights as Amendments precisely to prevent that which Beck embraced. If Jefferson and Madison were alive today, they would personally yank Fox’s license
    until Fox fired Beck. The last thing they wanted the American people to be was fed a line of horse crap day after day. The men, who sweated in that hall that summer hammering out the Constitution would not so much as sit down to lunch with a yellow propagandist like Glenn Beck.

    Disenlightened, that is a pretty accurate comment name you chose.

    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/07/what-is-color-of-glenn-beck.html

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    equaljustice4u says:
    “We need more people who isn’t afraid or in bed with Barry and friends……that you say Beck is crazy ONLY you can’t show us why!!!
    One thing you can’t deny is the fact that Beck tells his audience to do their own homework and NOT take his word for it………DO IT!!!
    And He provides video/audio to prove what people have said………AND IF YOU can’t believe their own words then you are insanely stupid. Whether it’s Soros or Van Jones (ADMITTED SOCIALIST—IN HIS OWN WORDS)”

    Oh, this is like taking candy from a baby.

    1) Van Jones WAS a Communist. Every time Beck says Van Jones IS a Communist, he’s lying to you. Van Jones has written a book about Green Capitialsim. Beck shows old tapes of Van Jones, and this gullible viewers buy it.

    2) Beck frequently uses video editing (like Breitbart did on Sherrod this summer) to distort what people are saying.

    3) Beck is NOT crazy. He says things that are completely insane, but he does so rationally. It draws attn to him, and because people are ignorant and gullible enough to believe any horse crap he utters, they buy his books. Beck is crazy like a Fox.

    4) YOu want to do some homework on Beck. Take my challenge. So far no one of Beck’s lemmings, I mean supporters have yet to show where I have Beck’s false claims debunked wrong. Accept that challenge equaljustice and prove where I have something wrong with any of my assertions about Beck’s false claims.

    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/06/contents.html

    ID yourself as equal justice there, so I know you are the one at least making the effort.
    Go ahead, walk the walk: do your homework and try to prove me or any guest bloggers there wrong.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Just4thefax says:
    “Fact: Glenn Beck again knee caps lefties.”

    Do you assert opinions as “facts” because you’re completely insane or just a complete moron?

    How does Beck manage to fool some of the people all of the time?

    Apparently it’s not always very difficult.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Nahu Tuk says:
    “Bottom line: It’s about the loss of our Constituional Rights. I predicted long ago that when we lost our 2nd Amendment rights,….”

    And you’ll admit you were wrong about this before or after some paranoid gun nut kills more cops to protect his 2nd Amendment right? Beck has a great record at getting his gullible minions to shoot at cops. (Beck’s in denial about this of course.)

    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/10/progressive-hunter-byron-williams.html

    Pop is the nick name of the Beckerhead who killed three cops in Phili last year. I haven’t posted about that story, but it’s covered in The Backlash.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Peter V.S. Bond says:
    “Glenn, I love you. Watch you several times a week. Please check your facts.”

    You’ve got Beck confused with someone who gives a s#$t about the facts.

    I realize that your emotional attachment won’t let you grasp the extent to which routinely deceives you one way or another, but if you do more fact-checking on what Beck claims, you’ll many many, many lies. Some are white; some are whoppers. Add them up and you end up with a false narrative, a story that he pulls from the recesses of his rectum.

    White lie:
    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/07/beck-makes-up-facts-about-faith-in.html
    Whopper (so many to choose from)
    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/08/glenn-beck-blatantly-lies-about-obamas.html

  • Nahu Tuk

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    Ummm its already been established that David Rockerfeller was Jays uncle and John D. Rockefeller III is his father.

    Whatever. Stil, the facts remain that Rockefellers aren’t what most people would call the good guys.

  • Nahu Tuk

    Helix said:
    Try not to overestimate your enemy’s cunning, nor underestimate the Founder’s. The 2nd Amendment is self reinforcing, a political exercise in circular logic. Remember that there are 200 million guns, give or take a few million, out there, and any attempt to remove them is just suicide. The Founders did assume we would not act like helpless sheep, like Sen. Rockefeller would have us do. What you need is to have a fighting spirit. There are a lot of differences between pre-war Germany and the USA in 2010, and Sen. Rockefeller and his ilk have a lot less power than they would like, and a much worse starting position, given our people and our Constitution.

    If you think you still have your rights under the 2nd Amendment, try doing an open carry in your home town without first paying all sorts of fees and going through all sorts of hassles. Try defending yourself with a firearm in Chicago, New York City, Los Angeles, San Fagcisco, or other metro areas.

    I would also suggest you check into the little deal called “normalization” which Sir Edmund Hillary Clinton is desirous of signing onto.

    Apparently, you have also neglected to remember the so-called “fairness doctrine” and its hyper steroidal version advocated by Mark Lloyd.

    Rights are lost incrementally and to maintain one’s rights requires continual vigilance.

    Please do NOT allow yourself to be duped by those who tell you that “it can’t happen here.”

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Nahu Tuk said:
    Whatever. Stil, the facts remain that Rockefellers aren’t what most people would call the good guys.

    Right, so let’s just make up a bunch of lies about them. Makes perfect sense.

  • Helix

    Nahu Tuk said:
    If you think you still have your rights under the 2nd Amendment, try doing an open carry in your home town without first paying all sorts of fees and going through all sorts of hassles. Try defending yourself with a firearm in Chicago, New York City, Los Angeles, San Fagcisco, or other metro areas.

    I would also suggest you check into the little deal called “normalization” which Sir Edmund Hillary Clinton is desirous of signing onto.

    Apparently, you have also neglected to remember the so-called “fairness doctrine” and its hyper steroidal version advocated by Mark Lloyd.

    Rights are lost incrementally and to maintain one’s rights requires continual vigilance.

    Please do NOT allow yourself to be duped by those who tell you that “it can’t happen here.”

    All good points. For a semi-rural area like mine, open carry is not that much of a problem, especially when there are virtually no human beings in your vision range. I tend to avoid large cities like the plague, and I pick other defenses on the occasional visit, with body language, knives, and a crowbar(vehicle only) my preferred choices. I usually don’t go looking for trouble, and avoid wealthy looking clothes(and places with metal detectors). This has worked well for me so far. If I were to live in a major city such as the ones you have mentioned, I would have a lot more problems, so my solution was to live somewhere more compatible with my views and personality.

    My original post really was about large scale confiscation rather than the small tyrannies you mention. S.E.H.C. or Mark Lloyd can manipulate paper all they want, but with the current House of Reps(pre or post election) the gun control crowd is going nowhere at the national level. Even if it did, the rural areas would never enforce it. Incremental regulations like you mention will be an issue in blue state stronghold urban areas, but court challenges will likely be effective if you have the patience to wait(Chicago is one example).

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Helix says:
    “My original post really was about large scale confiscation rather than the small tyrannies you mention. S.E.H.C. or Mark Lloyd can manipulate paper all they want, but with the current House of Reps(pre or post election) the gun control crowd is going nowhere at the national level. Even if it did, the rural areas would never enforce it. Incremental regulations like you mention will be an issue in blue state stronghold urban areas, but court challenges will likely be effective if you have the patience to wait(Chicago is one example).”

    Paranoia will destroy ya. Just ask Richard “Pop” Poplawski.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Question: what’s Glenn Beck getting nervous about?

    I just happen to be privy to the answer:
    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/11/what-is-glenn-beck-getting-nervous.html

  • Sunnyr

    Love ya, Glenn! Keep on tweaking the Liberal’s Big Commie Noses! It drives them nuts. And it is sure fun to watch. As for Comrade Rockefeller, someone should stuff the First Amendment down this ignorant twit’s throat and make him swallow!!

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Sunnyr says:
    “Love ya, Glenn! Keep on tweaking the Liberal’s Big Commie Noses!”

    Sunnyr, tell us all why Beck’s lies only bother the left (liberal’s aren’t commies, that TOO is a lie), but not the right.

    Is it because you’re so used to lies that living a lie has become the reactionary way of political life?

    Or are you so ignorant that you have no idea that Beck is lying, so you just accept what he says?

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