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Jacqueline Kennedy Tapes: JFK ‘Didn’t Like Idea’ That LBJ Might Be President

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A series of recently-released tapes show former First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy revealing that her husband, John F. Kennedy, was extremely worried over the possibility of then-Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson someday becoming president.

In the series of oral interviews, recorded in 1964 by historian Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr., the former Mrs. Kennedy shares that, in the months before his assassination, her husband met with his brother, Robert, to discuss a means of circumventing a possible Johnson presidency after his second term:

Bobby told me this later and I know Jack said it to me sometimes. He said, “Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon was president?’ He didn’t like that idea that Lyndon would go on and be president because he was worried for the country. Bobby told me that he’d had some discussions with him. I forget exactly how they were planning or who they had in mind. It wasn’t Bobby, but somebody. Do something to name someone else in ’68.

For reasons one can probably guess, the frank interviews were kept private by the Kennedy family until now. Jacqueline’s daughter, Caroline Kennedy, has explained that the interviews reflect a complicated time, but that her mother had always been very fond of Johnson and his wife.

Tomorrow (Tuesday Sept. 13th), Diane Sawyer will host a prime-time, two-hour ABC News special about the tapes, the transcripts of which will be released in Jacqueline Kennedy: Historic Conversations on Life with John F. Kennedy later this month. Sawyer gives us a sneak peek of tomorrow’s special, sharing, among other things, that we’ve been pronouncing the former First Lady’s name incorrectly this whole time.

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  • Anonymous

    Remember LBJ ‘s face in 1968 when he announced that he was not running ?

    He was 59 years old and looked much older . He died 5 years later at 64 .

    Kennedy may have been repulsed by Johnson’s crude manner , but it seemed like he was a successful politician .   Unfortunately .

  • JohnJGuy

    It’s well documented that there wasn’t any love lost between the both of these men. 

    Was LBJ effective? In some respects yes and in others he was questionable. The Vietnam War was a huge escalation under his Presidency, he signed the Civil Rights Bill,Medicare and Medicaid. He never really was appreciated as thoroughly, perhaps because he succeeded JFK through his assassination rather than an outright election. Although he did run on his own merits successfully after JFK’s term expired.

    I think the Vietnam War cast a long shadow and still does…

  • Gary Helm

    NOthing new here.  Kennedys did not like LBJ, in fact, they were downright dismissive and rude about it.  He was on the ticket to help win the south.  LBJ certainly was much more effective than JFK when it came to passing legislation.  Civil rights…Medicare…but he had Viet Nam.  Nuff said.

  • Gary Helm

    NOthing new here.  Kennedys did not like LBJ, in fact, they were downright dismissive and rude about it.  He was on the ticket to help win the south.  LBJ certainly was much more effective than JFK when it came to passing legislation.  Civil rights…Medicare…but he had Viet Nam.  Nuff said.

  • http://twitter.com/UltraVerified verified ✔

    In domestic policy, LBJ did things Jack Kennedy never could have tried to do. 

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    doesn’t sound like she was a big fan of MLK, either. 

  • Anonymous

    can’t wait to hear what else she has to say in these tapes….. 

  • Michelle

    Alex,
    She also called Martin Luther King a phony and yet not even an mention.  Interesting. 

  • JohnJGuy

    I think it has something to do with the title of the article being about LBJ.

  • TruDat

    That’s why LBJ conspired to have JFK killed.

  • Michelle

    Or it has something to do with a liberal media bias. 

  • Anonymous

    JFK was right. Up until George Bush, LBJ was the worst President in U.S. history.

  • JohnJGuy

    As far as I’m aware there are a huge number of media outlets; Liberal, Republican, Independent etc etc of whom all are extremely capable of exercising their right to free speech in the manner that best suits them. 

    If you find this one isn’t to your liking, I’m pretty sure there are many out there that would meet your requirements. 

  • http://www.IndiaCurry.com Yogi Gupta

    LBJ was the most successful liberal president of the United States, only second to FDR. He passed the civil rights act, medicare, medicaid, as well the great society agenda for poor and hungry, clean up road-side of the highways. One of the least discussed accomplishment was opening up the radio frequecncies by FCC. Lady bird bought the big block, and sold to various radio stations and became the richest woman in her own right. LBJ was a shrewed politician who rose from the humble beginings of being a teacher. He had seen the poverty first hand in south. He had the passion to formulate the legislation, and thhe know how of the congress to get them passed. His only failure was Vietnam war, just like Bay of Pigs was major failure of JFK. After Lincoln, most of the credit should go to LBJ for uplifting and empowering the blacks. Let us not forget that a similar statement by HRC got herself in trouble during 2008 by Obama supporters. Progressives do not want to give credit to anyone else other than MLK.
    Kennedys did not like LBJ, because LBJ was not an elite. LBJ did not belong to the upper crust. JFK was compassionate to the cause of blacks, but it was LBJ who got the laws enacted. Kennedy compassion for blacks did not extend to MLK. Mrs Kennedy did not like personally like MLK. But this thread is not about MLK. Mrs Kennedy was a child of high society and married into high society. She had no use for either LBJ or MLK, they were not creatures of high society like herself or Kennedys. Monogomy was not an important virtue in high society. I am sure it would be another thread somewhere as more details of the tapes will emerge. 

  • JohnJGuy

    ‘She had no use for either LBJ or MLK, they were not creatures of high society like herself or Kennedys. Monogomy was not an important virtue in high society.’

    Sad, but true. I feel that this is a society piece.

    It might, I suppose, also answer why she was prepared to put up with JFK’s well documented continuous string of affairs, but then again, she herself did the same.

  • Michelle

    My freedom of speech allows me to point out liberal bias where I see it.  Deal with it, LIbbie!

  • JohnJGuy

    ‘…Deal with it, LIbbie!’

    That’s your best argument? Well it’s not really about anything other than that for you is it!

    I thought there might’ve been something a little more substantive. I was wrong.

     …Good luck!

  • TruDat

    You forgot a little clown by the name of Jimmy Carter.

  • Anonymous

    You’re going to be in TROUBLE, Sara. God forbid we mention Jackie’s comments about MLK!

  • Jp7077

    What’s interesting is that I’ve read about her interviews with  Schlesinger on at least 6 other sites…….and they all touched on the reason She didn’t respect MLK…..she thought he was a phony because of his womanizing…MSNBC even touched on this……..albeit in a very sanatized way .Funny how mediaite totally overlooks this…..Bias? JFK ‘s womanizing and extramarital affairs  have been scrutinized and plastered all over the press……and rightly so. Why is everyone quiet about the Rev. Dr’s sexcapades?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Tyler/100001071466947 Steven Tyler

    MLK had sex with prostitutes as a married man

  • Jp7077

    everyone knew JFK diliked LBJ….they couldn’t stand each other….that’s OLD NEWS…..not really a story……..But mediaite chose to highlight this angle . JFK and Jackies opinion of MLK is NEW information. And these tapes are not about LBJ….they’re about jackies opinion in the time directly after her husband was assasinated.

  • Michelle

    My best argument for what?  You didn’t say anything worth commenting on .

  • JohnJGuy

    Well then it could make for some interesting viewing. 

    Although, if the comments are immediately or soon after her husband’s death, that might make them a little more biased.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WH3ZLMM7CUKUHUIMK4TKXW6SQE John

    Medicaid/Medicare——Obamacare
    Civil Rights Act———Gay Marriage/Letting Illegal Immigrants stay
    Expanding the war in Vietnam———Expanding the war in Iraq/Afghanistan/Pakistan/Libya

    LBJ passed far more important and LIBERAL legislation than Obama and had the same kind of foreign policy…. but he was just a crude populist southerner so the media hated him.  It seems your background and accent is more important to the media than what you actually do as President.

  • Jp7077

    it’ll be a snooze……..Caroline has edited these tapes…..so I can’t imagine anything sensational will be released. Jackie may have said too much because of her grief…….but I doubt she made anything up. FYI……..every thing jackie talked about concerning MLK came directly from her Husband…….who authorized J Edgar Hoover and the FBI to bug MLK’s homes and motel rooms to get dirt on him and report directly back to him. Now…..when the transcripts of MLK’s FBI tapes become public knowledge in 2027…….THAT will be interesting.

  • JohnJGuy

    Yes it will, I can’t wait. 

    On the other hand no man (Certainly not these men) is perfect and I doubt the recordings will diminish his or their legacies. Although I’m not all together sure about the legacy of J Edgar Hoover.

  • JohnJGuy

    Yes it will, I can’t wait. 

    On the other hand no man (Certainly not these men) is perfect and I doubt the recordings will diminish his or their legacies. Although I’m not all together sure about the legacy of J Edgar Hoover.

  • http://games-survival.com Justplaythegame

    One of the biggest conspiracy theories involves LBJ in the assassination and coup d’état from the military and CIA to take over this country and backed by the rich. Since those times, it seems to push this evidence more and more. Do we really know if our Presidents are just Puppets or not? … look towards the current President that ran on ending wars? Giving away part of the country to the people as LBJ did, allows for bipartisan wars to continue..

    Reagan would be on the flipside of this for Republicans.. which has turned his ideas most embrassed into our current Pyramid Scheme that is collapsing around us as corporations expand further from the middle class and into world dominance and leaving the USA as a third world country..

    meh, jus say’n… I miss camelot.. seemed like the end of American values..

  • Anonymous

    MLK was notorious for his womanizing and plagiarism.  However, he was the charismatic face of the civil rights movement. 

  • Robo14

    Jackie’s views are refreshing.I find it hilarious however that everything she did was golden in the minds of the Liberal Press,but now they are  bashing her and trying to explain it away…Btw,Jack was right about Johnson.He was a schmuck…..Too bad Barry lost to him,he would have been much better..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/T64D4HBBYNXBRC3XOJ4TLKIE2M Bushwacked Republican

    Politicians and Preachers are just alike !   They both like fried chicken and pussy too !

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