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James Hoffa’s Full ‘Take These Sons Of Bitches Out’ Quote: ‘Everybody Here’s Got A Vote’

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A quote from Teamster President James Hoffa is making the Labor Day rounds, particularly on the right, as evidence of the kind of “violent rhetoric” that President Obama denounced in the wake of January’s shooting tragedy in Tucson. In an abridged version of the quote posted here earlier, Hoffa says, of the Tea Party, “Let’s take these sons of bitches out,” but according to CNN, Hoffa prefaced his remark by saying, “Everybody here’s got a vote,” which narrows the comment’s meaning.

When outrage over Hoffa’s quote swept over Twitter, I hadn’t seen the clip yet, but the quote sounded so familiar that I took a look for another source, with broader context. Sure enough, CNN reported the quote this way:

“Everybody here has a vote,” Hoffa said Monday. “If we go back and we keep the eye on the prize. Let’s take these sons of bitches out and give America back to America where we belong.”

The full quote (Hoffa actually says “Everybody here’s got a vote,” and, employing the colloquially approved plural for sonofabitch, “let’s take these sonofabitches out”) is almost identical to something Hoffa said on Morning Joe about a week-and-a-half ago, with little or no outrage. He said ““There’s going to be an election in ’12, and maybe the answer is, we wipe these people out.”

The full Hoffa quote was also run in a clip later in the day by Fox News, and Fox Senior White House Correspondent Ed Henry took pains to clarify the Hoffa quote via his Twitter feed following his initial report, which omitted “Everybody here’s got a vote”:

Full quote, Jimmy Hoffa Jr: “Everybody here’s got to vote. If we go back & keep the eye on the prize, let’s take these sons of bitches out”

in fairness here’s full context on Hoffa comments. He was earlier saying “we gotta keep an eye on the battle that we face, a war on workers”

more Hoffa: “We’ve got a bunch of people there that don’t want the President to succeed, and they’re called the Tea Party”

Hoffa: “President is frustrated by what’s going on. Well guess what, we got the vote … remember in November. We will beat the tea party”

Here’s Henry’s report, featuring the full quote from Hoffa:


Now, the argument can be made that even with the qualifier, Hoffa’s quote is pretty strong, and he did use a bunch of war metaphors. Sarah Palin’s infamous “Don’t retreat, reload!” tweet contained no qualifier about votes (she was fed one 3 days later by a fan), and conservatives were Jim-dandy with that, so the current outrage is likely of the “Gotcha!” variety. Anyone who wants to be mad at Hoffa for using war metaphors is welcome to do so (I like metaphors, always have), but the remark that’s getting all the attention isn’t even a metaphor, it’s a clear message to vote Tea Party Republicans out of office.

As a sidenote, James Hoffa is, indeed, the son of notoriously vanished Teamsters boss Jimmy Hoffa, but he is not a “junior,” as the two have different middle names (Hoffa the elder was James Riddle Hoffa, while his son is James Phillip Hoffa).

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  • Anonymous

    WAR…?Bring-it-on, you Brylcreemed palooka

  • Mike

    I couldn’t agree with him any more. Way to go Jimmy! Give the teabggers hell. 

  • http://twitter.com/OHforRickPerry OHforRickPerry

    If it was *so* clearly about voting, why didn’t he say “let’s vote to take these sons a bitches out”.

    Keep spinning there, Tommy. My goodness you *have* to be dizzy from all this spinning you’re doing this week.

    ps…maybe you should resign, Champ

  • TVNewsViewer

    Not exactly the best phrased sentiment given that alot of people are not warm and friendly when it comes to the unions.

  • Anonymous

    hey jim i’m pretty sure i’ve pee’d on your dads grave or graves bahahaha

  • Cain

    Right wing is all worked up over this but Palin’s “Don’t Retreat, Reload” is no biggie. It’s the same type of political rhetoric. 

    Rush said ”the coup was what many of you wish would happen here…” – referring to a 2009 military coup in Honduras that overthrew the democratically-elected president. 

  • Anonymous

     Lying right wingers editing and taking quotes out of context?Say it ain’t so.

  • USAdood

    Liberals don’t get it…. Conservatives NEVER cared if people use this type of political language, even though it can sound harsh. Free speech > political correctness out of fear of crazed lunatics misinterpreting. BUT liberals blamed Sarah Palin and the Tea Party for the Tuscon Shooting and said it was because of ‘Toxic, incendiary, hateful language’ and the Democratic party and POTUS Obama told Americans to put an end to the ‘violent imagery and language’ and now liberals CONTINUE TO USE THE SAME LANGUAGE. Will libs never understand their blatant hypocrisy? FOX wasn’t reporting this because it’s gotchya, they reported it because its more liberal hypocrisy. 

  • Richie

    The former GOP operatives running Fox News are going to have this soundbite in every program tomorrow. You can take that to the bank.

  • Anonymous

    Told everyone FOX LIES

  • Anonymous

    He did.What part of “Everybody here’s got to vote” don’t you understand?

  • USAdood

    And why shouldn’t they? Liberals called for an end to hateful, violent rhetoric after they blamed Tuscon on Sarah Palin and the Tea Party yet libs continue to preach more hate and divisiveness. You won’t see Obama get on TV and call out Hoffa like he has the tea party. FOX will replay this because it shows dem hypocrisy

  • Ralph

    More context makes it a non-sequitur.  Obama and Hoffa should dissociate themselves from that type of speech.

  • Ralph

    More context makes it a non-sequitur.  Obama and Hoffa should dissociate themselves from that type of speech.

  • Darkchocolate70

    ABC, CBS, NBC are all reporting it the same.  Hoffa threatened the Tea Party.

  • Darkchocolate70

    COMMUNISM has always gotten it’s toehold through Unions.

    If you don’t believe COMMUNISM is coming to America, then you haven’t been listening to the hate coming out of American Union goons mouths like Hoffa, Trumpka, and Gerard.

  • Anonymous

    Just wait until Hoffa is no longer useful, he will become like his father………shovel ready

  • carlton paul

    I have two US MARINE sons and one Air force.  I DARE the Union thugs to mess with any one of them.

  • Struckgld

    Communist inspired union thugs just put the lat nail in Obama’s campaign coffin.

  • JohnJGuy

    Yes it’s another example of rhetoric, but nothing that hasn’t been seen or heard elsewhere. Is it really that shocking?
    Why the overplayed mock outrage from everyone. There’s the same language from Radio/Pundits on all sides and all the time…

    He’s just talking to his audience, so why the ballooning outrage and shock horror…

  • Anonymous

    They are all FOX News.  There is no liberal media.
    Own your hate baggers. 

  • Struckgld

    Communist inspired union thugs just put the LAST nail in Obama’s campaign coffin

  • Norbit

    Although, it didn’t seem to matter when Sarah Palin had crosshairs over voting districts the campaign was targeting.

    Tell me, are Progressives taught to use Hypocrisy and Double-Standards, or is it genetic in some way? ps)  Tommy, how do you spell Democratic Hypocrisy?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S76XIS53F7LSF4SGCB4GQ4HH4Q rifleman

    Funny thing the left always takes conservatives’ quotes out of context. They’ll use three or four words w/o using the full quote…Hoffa still has a violent tone to his charge….”Civility” anyone?

  • Darkchocolate70

    Hoffa is a blob of fat that knows where his own father is buried and won’t talk.  What a piece of pond scum.

  • Re-Elect Obama 2012

    You couldn’t agree with him any more, or you couldn’t agree with him more?

  • Anonymous

    If people like TC think spin like this will make this all go away, they are deluding themselves. Doesn’t even pass the laugh test.

  • http://twitter.com/Perry1899 Daniel Perrone

    And hats off to him. It’s clear what path we’re all headed down

  • Struckgld

    60% of America has NO TIME for Unions.  Just 8% of Americans belong to a Union.  32% have no alliance one way or the other with unions.

    I say Unions are outnumbered almost 8 to 1.

  • http://twitter.com/Perry1899 Daniel Perrone

    A seven year old with two sons?

  • Re-Elect Obama 2012

    The question isn’t whether they will replay it, but whether they play it in context. My guess is they will not.

  • Anonymous

    Someone needs to yell at OBAMO: ‘THIS is why we’ll cling to our guns…bitterly or otherwise.’

  • Anonymous

    Hey, where were all of you back in January to attach context to Palin’s crosshair map?

  • Darkchocolate70

    2011 is the year all of America now sees that Unions are nothing but thugs.  Whether is was Wisconsin, Florida, Ohio, you name it, all America has seen is union goons threatening people

  • Anonymous

    Given the things said after the Giffords shooting, it’s right to point out the rank hypocrisy of the left when it comes to violent rhetoric. Again, it’s not the deed, it’s how a certain kind of person reacts to it. No one really felt offended Anthony Weiner tweeted a penis pic to a woman not his wife. The outrage was the way the MSM ignored the story and then began spinning for Weiner Remember, Tommy? The way you spun like a MMFA intern on Twitter for Weiner during that whole mess? I’m sure you do.

  • JohnJGuy

    …Civility?

    Have you bothered to read any of the posts here or has your own irony passed straight by you.

    You’re right.

    I’m shocked…shocked…shocked I tell you!

  • Anonymous

    Unions rely on intimidation tactics. Fortunately, that doesn’t really work anymore. I went to a town hall back during the Obamacare debate, and two tree trunks that the SEIU had hired to carry around a sign and look intimidating were continuously getting pummeled by people throwing crap at them from the stands. They finally left and hung out in the parking lot, where people laughed at them as they left the event. (the town hall was moved to a high school football stadium due to the size of the expected crowd) It was pretty funny!

  • http://twitter.com/OHforRickPerry OHforRickPerry

    Or…

    You  could you read it as ‘everyone here’s got a vote’. Now ‘take out those sons of bitches’. Take them out has any number of meanings. After all, this is Hoffa.

    But you too, nice spin there, Guy!

  • JohnJGuy

    I’m not going to agree or disagree with you on that, except to say where is Weiner now?

    …He resigned!

    Although he isn’t the first or likely the last politician on either side of the aisle to behave inappropriately is he?

    PS I don’t spin, not necessary with a reasoned argument.

  • Anonymous

    Just goes to show nobody watches mourning ( the demise of the obama regime and the democrat party in general ) joe program on GE/ObamaRegime TV. 

    Oh and Hoffa and Obama are both un-American, subversive, and in Obama’s case racist douchebags. 

    Happy Labor Day Everybody and God Bless America and you liberals too, I guess.

  • Anonymous

    Wolf Blitzer: “I’ve covered the middle east for a long time, covered terrorism for a long time and i have to tell you I’m worried that on the tenth anniversary that al Qaeda or whats left of al Qaeda will try to do something to seek revenge for your killing of Bin Laden.”President Obama: “The biggest concern we have right now is not the launching of a major terror operation although that risk is always there, the risk we are especially worried about right now is the lone wolf terroristSomebody with a single weapon being able to carry out wide scale massacres of the sort we saw in Norway.”Considering the fact that it is documented history that lone wolf terrorists are usually mentally unstable patsies for some larger operation, this warning from Obama should send up red flags throughout the country.
    6 days before 9/11 this President from “The gang that can’t shoot straight ” follows this act without a disclaimer. He’s becoming a fucking joke.

  • Anonymous

    So, we’re dressing it up and making excuses for Hoffa? All of my comments stand as they were written.

  • Anonymous

    So Tommy.

    Was calling millions of Americans “Sons of Bitches”, and then introducing the POTUS taken out of context too?

    Care to reply?

  • Anonymous

    Palin’s  crosshair map did what?  The crosshair map was used on a variety of sites btw.

    .,,,and what the hell does that have to do with what Hoffa said and Tommy’s attempt to downplay it?.

  • Norbit

    What about black elected officials smearing Tea Party voters as “Racists”!

    Ask yourself, is the incessant use of the Racist Smear by black liberals (they’ve been spewing it for years) against whites who disagree with them, a RACIST ACT itself?

     

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Hoffa’s union thugs and all the dead voters of Detroit still can’t help the loser Obama get re-elected. Demarodents are out in 2012 so get ready to work in 2013 welfare maggots.

  • Anonymous

    It’s not the same at all. Millions of Americans were called “sons of bitches” right in front of the POTUS, and the POTUS grabs the microphone like nothing happened.

    What a bunch of crap.

  • Anonymous

    Were millions of Americans not called “sons of bitches” right in front of the President, and the President don’t say a damn thing about it?

    Yes, or no?

  • http://www.davidjkramer.co.cc// DavidKramer

    Jimmy Hoffa, where is your daddy?

  • Anonymous

    How can they disassociate themselves from speeches they gave?  Hello, their body doubles did the talking, it wasn’t really them?

  • Anonymous

    Was calling millions of Americans “Sons of bitches” taken out of context?

  • Anonymous

    as they should.  And so should every other channel.  It was awful, and Obama added fuel to the fire.  Just pathetic.  

  • Anonymous

    I heard it in full context on Fox – as it was being said so quit with the b.s.  Context my ass…..

    Grow up fool and quit making excuses for inexcusable behaviour by both Hoffa and the President.  

  • Anonymous

    You can read it any way you want.But.

    You’d still be wrong.

  • Anonymous

    where did they lie?  What “quote” did they take out of context?  Why do you make up this crap?  
    If you have no defence just shut up and quit with the out of context crap.  

    He said it – he owned it and Obama thanked him.

  • Anonymous

    So now you just move the goal posts and find something else to moan about.

  • Norbit

    How many tortured, hopeless lives have Democratic welfare policies spawned?

    How many girls, who have neither the financial or emotional wherewithall to even support themselves, are having multiple births with multiple inseminators just to get another Democratic welfare check?

    What happens to these innocent children?

     

  • Anonymous

    Many on the left blamed the crosshairs on Giffords’ district with the shooting, and tried to pump this up as violent rhetoric, which it clearly was not. Tommy is also going to write a column describing how he never bought into the “violent rhetoric” narrative, but as he wrote on January 9th, “It is also true that the “crosshair map” was grossly irresponsible.”

    Fact is, leftists are hypocrites, and prove it all the time.

  • http://twitter.com/egbegb Ed Bradford

    James Hoffa Jr, was saying
    You are a ‘son of a bitch’ and …
    I say ThinkProgress is a ‘PIECE OF SH__’, bit I like them and read them.
    You folks OK with that?

    Mr. Hoffa is ignorant and uninformed in my opinion.
    Ed

  • http://twitter.com/egbegb Ed Bradford

    James Hoffa Jr, was saying
    You are a ‘son of a bitch’ and …
    I say ThinkProgress is a ‘PIECE OF SH__’, bit I like them and read them.
    You folks OK with that?

    Mr. Hoffa is ignorant and uninformed in my opinion.
    Ed

  • Anonymous

    Translation,

    “MOM!He was calling me names again.”

    Get over it bud.

  • Re-Elect Obama 2012

    You may have, but the people who missed the speech and watched other Fox News programming did not hear the full context.  And while you may still say it was inappropriate, to claim that it doesn’t soften the meaning is a gross lie. And from what I have seen from your comments, you are a despicable liar.

  • Anonymous

    Crying “Wingnuts” is nothing more than a fast track to irrelevancy. It simply shows that you’re a brainless lib marionette.

  • Re-Elect Obama 2012

    Log out as fat libertarian and log back in as David Kramer?

  • Ronin

    “Becoming”?

  • http://twitter.com/OHforRickPerry OHforRickPerry

    But I know the Teamsters.

    Game. Set. Match.  

  • Norbit

    - or what about ”want to see us hanging from a tree”, “go straight to hell” “terrorists”, “racists”…

    These are the same hypocrites that rail against the likes of Rush and Sean – yet never hear or watch either!
    They all just seem to have very pliable minds, that have lost their ability for individual thought.

  • Ronin

    Lord no, at this rate and a year and change to go, there’s plenty of room for more idiocy. Still waiting to hear from Tommy about his feelings on Gunwalker and this group.

  • Anonymous

    This is f&cking hilarious!!!

    You TeaBagger Cult members can be led so easily by your propaganda machine, Fox ‘News’!!!

    The TeaBagger Cult – the biggest load of pussies this country has ever produced!!!

    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!

  • Ronin

    So FOX lies, but then your hats off to him when it’s shown other outlets report the same? Oh my.

  • Ronin

    Holy shit mom, you’re embarassing me in front of people.

  • http://twitter.com/WorldDivider Mark Prior

    Obviously now he will have blood on his hands if anything happens to any tea party member.

  • Anonymous

    He’s a pathetic rabble rouser, and that’s all he’ll ever be. This is what you get when you elect a community organizer. Will be remembered as the most ineffective man to ever hold the office. Fact is, I don’t think he really even cares. He’ll have a cushy pension, secret service, write a book, (for real this time) and charge a ton of money to make speeches at communist gatherings. He won the lottery, man.

  • Texan

    As you’re getting drug by your hooves by the tommy christopher propaganda machine…the irony is off the hook. ;)

  • JohnJGuy

    You’re right.

    …How on earth did that ever happen to these good people? 

    They’ve been maligned and misunderstood. 

    They are just straightforward people, carrying straightforward placards imbued with straightforward language. In a straightforward manner that can be easily understood in an understated fashion. 

    Carrying placards with words like Nazi, Muslim, Socialist, Marxist, Communist, Terrorist, Un American, Not American (Where’s the passport? You have it I don’t believe it!) Lilly Liveried Librul, Maoist, Elitist, Democrat ( He is a Democrat.Apologies) etc etc etc…

    How could those good intention on those placards be misunderstood. 

    …How indeed?

  • Anonymous

    It’s a meaningless comments section.We’re all irrelevant,Mr serious guy.

  • JohnJGuy

    ‘Happy Labor Day Everybody and God Bless America and you liberals too, I guess.’

    …Huh!!!

    ….Why I oughta.

    God Bless You Too…

  • Anonymous

    Fact:Teabaggers means the insertion of one
    man’s sack into another person’s mouth. Used a practical joke or prank, when
    performed on someone who is asleep, or as a sexual act this is an act of a
    democrat.

  • Anonymous

    If you’re paying union dues to the teamsters , your money is being stolen from you for  Junior Hoffa’s bullets , blackjacks and beer . And to elect more good-for -nothings like Dingell and Conyers .

    Suckers .

  • Anonymous

    “It’s just a good thing I can’t pack a gun on the Senate floor.”  Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) 
    “I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax, because we need to fight back.  Michelle Bachmann

    “We hunt liberal, tree-hugging Democrats, although it does seem like a waste of good ammunition.” Rep. Gregg Harper (R-MS)

    “People are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying, my goodness, what can we do to turn this country around? I’ll tell you, the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out,”  Sharron Angle (R-NV)

    It looks like the Right is being very selective in their outrage…

  • Ronin

    2+1=2?

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Please..please…
    In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of
    Edinborough , had this
    To say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:

    “A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a
    permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the
    time that voters discover that they
    can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment
    on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits
    from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally
    collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always
    Followed by a dictatorship.”

    “The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning
    of history, has been
    about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed
    through the following sequence:

    From bondage to spiritual faith;
    From spiritual faith to great courage;
    From courage to liberty;
    From liberty to abundance;
    From abundance to complacency;
    From complacency to apathy;
    From apathy to dependence;
    From dependence back into bondage.”
    The Obituary follows:

    Born 1776, Died 2012
    It doesn’t hurt to read this several times.

    Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in St. Paul ,
    Minnesota ,
    Out some interesting facts concerning the last Presidential election:

    Number of States won by: Obama: 19 McCain: 29
    Square miles of land won by: Obama: 580,000 McCain: 2,427,000
    Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million McCain: 143 million
    Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Obama: 13.2
    McCain: 2.1

    Professor Olson adds: “In aggregate, the map of the territory McCain won
    was
    Mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.

    Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low income
    Tenements and living off various forms of government welfare…”

    Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the
    “complacency and apathy” phase of Professor Tyler’s definition of
    democracy,
    Some forty percent of the nation’s population already having reached
    The “governmental dependency” phase.

    If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal
    Invaders called illegal’s – and they vote – then we can say goodbye to the
    USA in fewer than five years.

    If you are in favor of this, then by all means, delete this message.

    If you are not, then pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is
    at stake, knowing
    That apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom.

    This is truly scary! Of course we are not a democracy, we are a Constitutional
    Republic .
    Someone should point this out to Obama. Of course we know he and too many others
    pay little attention to The Constitution. There couldn’t be more at stake than
    on Nov 2012.

    How many of us really looked at what has been happening to
    America over the years? Are you a part of America ‘s growing entitlement
    attitude or do you want to stop this in the little time we have left?
    So now that your have this information, what are you planning to do with it?

  • Anonymous

    So Waters’ remark about sending the Tea Party to hell and Carson’s lynching charge are just fine with King Obama and Tommy Christopher . Joe Biden is a known fool , so you just say – That’s Joe !

  • Republicans are Liars

    Teabagger really means indiviuals who have SANTORUM for BRAINS especially the idiot FAX man on here.

  • Anonymous

    I’m a despicable liar?  Really, care to show where I lied about anything?  

    Seriously, you need your head examined.  You don’t call anyone a liar for the hell of it unless you’re sick dude and you damn well better be sick.  

  • Republicans are Liars

    I hope you love your minimum wage job…

  • Anonymous

    Tommy has been called out by other bloggers for his penchant for bending the truth.  What the hell is wrong with you Tommy? 

    If you are that much in the tank that you can’t even write an honest article it’s time to hang it up bud cause it ain’t flying any longer.  

  • Anonymous

    Tommy has been called out by other bloggers for his penchant for bending the truth.  What the hell is wrong with you Tommy? 

    If you are that much in the tank that you can’t even write an honest article it’s time to hang it up bud cause it ain’t flying any longer.  

  • Republicans are Liars

    LIsten buddy, you haven’t got a pot to piss in. Tell us how big your company is and how many people you employ? Tell us your real world experience in any of this? You probably don’t have dick and yet you want to vote the people into office that want to take what llittle you got away from you. All of you teabaggers are pathetic.

  • NomoBeeHO

    Hoffa extorts money from working Americans and gives it to MOOCH-Elle so she can take lavish vacations and eat rich and fattening foods.

    Haha

  • Republicans are Liars

    Just how much do you work? How many times have you collected unemployment benefits? Santorum brain is becoing more and more delusional.

  • Limpbaals

    Thats some real Rick Perry voter material right there!

  • Republicans are Liars

    How much corporate welfare has spawned the greed that is rampant at the top of the food chain in this country? YOu are worried about some poor woman geting a $1,000 a month yet you are ok iun handing the oil companies 4 billion a year. Moron, thy name is Norbert.

  • Anonymous

    The governors of Indiana and Wisconsin have saved the public teacher’s union members from the union bosses . The state does not collect the union dues and the teachers are keeping the thousand bucks a year for themselves .

    And the unions are melting away , like the sludge they are .

  • Anonymous

    Nice catch……

  • Anonymous

    I’m ready…..

  • Anonymous

    What a puff piece.

    Go wipe off your chin Tommy, you didn’t it all the first time.

  • Bob

     He did. FOX cut it out, which shows you the contempt they have for their audience.

    During the segment that the bloggers have
    latched onto, Fox edited out the bolded portion of Hoffa’s comments:

    HOFFA:
    Everybody here’s got to vote. If we go back and keep the eye on the prize, let’s take these son of a bitches out and give America
    back to America where we belong! Thank you very much!

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/201109050003

  • http://www.davidjkramer.co.cc// DavidKramer

    No, fat libertarian is not me. I do not need to create sock puppets like you. I use my own name and persona because I am not afraid of stating my beliefs and standing behind them. How bout YOU? Putz.

    By the way, I am a Constitutional Libertarian, not a straight Libertarian, by the way, Libertarians are the true liberals. Modern day liberals/progressives are just communists and socialists afraid to say it.

    How bout YOU? Putz.

  • Anonymous

    If a conservative had said what  Junior Hoffa said , every single liberal would be screeching DEATH THREATS ! at the top of their lungs , Tommy Christopher  loudest of all .

    And Tommy damn well knows it .

  • Bob

     yet you had no problem with Glenn Beck’s “gun to their head” rhetoric, I bet.

  • Bob

    Again, they left out:
    “Everybody here’s got to vote. If we go back and keep the eye on the prize”
    Which changes the meaning of the quote entirely

    If it’s so inconsequential, why did FOX feel the need to take the time to clip that few seconds out of the footage before airing?
     It certainly wasn’t for time. It’s what – 3 seconds long? And it takes more work to Breitbart-ize Hoffa’s speech than to air it as is.

    Obviously, something was up here. FOX lied. and Mediaite fell for it….again.

  • Bob

    OH, so now it’s the SOB line you take issue with? I guess we’re just supposed to ignore the fabricated bit about a call to violence and just let you change the subject like nothing happened?

  • Hooligan

    Tommy Christopher:, oba’mao’ s #1 shoe shine boy, and favorite jock sniffer

  • Bob

    FOX will replay it, knowing full well that the tape is doctored, Breitbart-esque B.S.
    Proving, as usual, that FOX is a news organization in name only.

  • Chucker

    Everyone here has a vote, so let’s lay waste to the democrat party and slaughter every elected democrat on election day.

    Don’t you dare object, I “qualified” my statement. (see how stupid it sounds now?)

  • Bob

    No, he didn’t – and you know damn well he didn’t.
    Do you buy your canned outrage by the six pack?

  • Bob

    I guess Saint Ronnie the Gipper didn’t do such a good job single-handedly winning the Cold War with his bare hands, as teabaggers are still trying to fight it like it’s 1955.

  • Bob

    How do you get through day-to-day life being so paranoid?

  • http://MsUnderestimated.com MsUnderestimated

    He said it – he owned it and Obama thanked him

    NAILED IT!

  • Anonymous

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but James Hoffa and unions had nothing to do with the Giffords event.

  • Anonymous

    I listened to the Hoffa speech and I heard some pretty strident and potentially inflamatory rhetoric.  Passages like:

    “We gotta keep an eye on the battle we face: the war on workers. And you see it everywhere, it is the Tea Party. And you know, there is only one way to beat and win that war. The one thing about working people is we like a good fight. And you know what? They got a war, and they got a war with us. There is only going to be one winner and it’s going to be us.”

    “President Obama this is your army.  We are ready to march. ”

    Fox was out of line editing the “take out these sons of bitches out” to immediately follow “President Obama this is your army. We are ready to march. ” without including “Everybody here’s got a vote”. 

    But to characterize Hoffa’s speech as benign as some sites are is almost as extreme.

  • Anonymous

    I listened to the Hoffa speech and I heard some pretty strident and potentially inflamatory rhetoric.  Passages like:

    “We gotta keep an eye on the battle we face: the war on workers. And you see it everywhere, it is the Tea Party. And you know, there is only one way to beat and win that war. The one thing about working people is we like a good fight. And you know what? They got a war, and they got a war with us. There is only going to be one winner and it’s going to be us.”

    “President Obama this is your army.  We are ready to march. ”

    Fox was out of line editing the “take out these sons of bitches out” to immediately follow “President Obama this is your army. We are ready to march. ” without including “Everybody here’s got a vote”. 

    But to characterize Hoffa’s speech as benign as some sites are is almost as extreme.

  • Sincityvrwc

    I betcha “take these sons of bitches out” was the only line that union thugs heard loud and clear. If Hoffa left out that line, a fair election would appear to be out of character for Hoffa. Since 1975, the National Institute for Labor Relations Research has collected more than 9000 reports of union violence.How many were reported from the Tea Party?

  • Anonymous

    Be careful BigEddieGuy – you will get banned ifyou criticize too harshley – mediaite staffers are very thin skinned and they ban those who criticize them too much.

  • Anonymous

    Yup; time to start circling the wagons around the lefty loon Hoffa – we must hide the hateful rhetoric behind some analysis to make sure that Hoffa and Obama are protected from criticism.  we cannot criticize he himself, the big Zero, the hero of the elite liberal left media.

    So funny.

    Calling for war on citizenry is just fine with the left, kind of like assassinating is a-ok, but water boarding to get intelligence to find the one you want to assassinate isn’t a-ok.  Go figure.  Liberal lefty loonism alive and well on mediaite.

    Obama is threatening the citizens, and that is just fine with the liberal left so-called white house press corp(se).

  • Norbit

    Excellent Post!
    These liberal revolutionaries are the most corrupt, dishonest, deceitful, race-baiting bunch of government leeches in the country.  

  • Bob

    Oh, but if Rick “Boosh III” Perry or Governor Christie Creme said it, the rightwing would be creaming themselves over how ‘authentic”  they thought it sounded.

    Canned outrage – the right is full of it.

  • Bob

    Oh, but if Rick “Boosh III” Perry or Governor Christie Creme said it, the rightwing would be creaming themselves over how ‘authentic”  they thought it sounded.

    Canned outrage – the right is full of it.

  • http://suburbanpatriot.wordpress.com SuburbanPatriot

    Obviously this man is full of hate and venom just like every other prog lib and he is of course using his words to incite violence against Tea Party Patriots and other Americans who are fighting every day for the Constitution cutting spending and taking back our country but elites like Hoffa are worried that the people are waking up to 0-bow-ma Hussein’s scam that he has had placed on all of Americans and so he’s filling the airwaves with his typical prog lib hate therefore he should be silenced for the sake of our Country.  Thank you.

  • http://MsUnderestimated.com MsUnderestimated

    Tommy, you are such an apologist, and I can’t believe you (who called for Boehner to resign for “offending” the office of POTUS) are dismissing this flat-out threat of violence as an “out-of-context” situation. My God, you are insufferable.

  • Anonymous

    No big deal- let Hoffa express himself the way he likes…it shows how unimpressive he is, how classless he is. When he speaks for the “workers” of this nation he isn’t speaking for those who earn a four year degree or graduate level professional, he isn’t speaking to those work for any private sector jobs he is speaking only to those who are card carrying unions members. He has pointed his argument to the WH approved target dejour- the Tea Party. Democrat talking points for 2012 = vilify the Tea Party as racist, un-American, caring more about the deficit over jobs. 

  • Norbit

    Here’s the violent rhetoric Tea Party members and ALL Americans are now allowed to use, because Obama’s BFF Hoffa used it, and there’ll be NO reprecussions from the deceitful, dishonest, hypocritical Left toward him!——————————————————————————————————————-(Courtesy of poster Shumanthehuman):I listened to the Hoffa speech and I heard some pretty strident and potentially inflamatory rhetoric.  Passages like:“We gotta keep an eye on the battle we face: the war on workers. And you see it everywhere, it is the Tea Party. And you know, there is only one way to beat and win that war. The one thing about working people is we like a good fight. And you know what? They got a war, and they got a war with us. There is only going to be one winner and it’s going to be us.””President Obama this is your army.  We are ready to march. ”

  • Anonymous

    Doesn’t change a damn thing Bob.  What the hell?  Are you truly trying to make excuses for an absolutely jerk who talked like a freaking thug?  

    Fox did not lie jerk – you realize all the stations are using the same clip.  Fox has played the entire thing from start to finish a # of times but that’s not good enough for you.  

    Do you understand what a lie is?  Your pathetic attempts to justify someone saying something so horrible is what is pathetic.  

    Give it up and don’t attempt to defend the indefensible.  

  • Tory

    How did they lie?…the edited out bits do nothing to mitigate or diminish the rest of the statement, nor does it change the context.. It was intentionally incendiary language targeted for a group not averse to violence. 0 was “proud”, Biden warned of the “barbarians, Waters, et al. have spent the previous weeks characterizing the Tea Party as being malignant to the point of being more appropriately in Hell.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t retreat, reload is an analogy used in sports all of the time. If you don’t understand that, that’s not our fault.

  • Guyoxim

    You’re funny. If the TParty had existed in 1975, you might have a point, but it didn’t so you don’t. If you’re too dense to be thankful for the good works of unions for the past 120 years or so, then I pity you. If you’re offended by hearing a union man use a term like sonofabitch, when referring to your beloved, 6 month old, Koch constructed political party, I have to laugh at you. To think that your delicate sensibilities are offended by such coarse talk, yet you still cruise these boards… you must be very stout hearted to put up with the constant outrage.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NK5INRFELITZ3TS337HINC3VMM Adam

    “Anyone who wants to be mad at Hoffa for using war metaphors is welcome to do so (I like metaphors, always have),
    but the remark that’s getting all the attention isn’t even a metaphor,
    it’s a clear message to vote Tea Party Republicans out of office.”

    And Palin’s “don’t retreat, reload” was a clear message about not backing down but continuing to fight for what she and millions of conservatives and Tea Partiers alike believed in. Only an idiot would leap to the conclusion that she was advocating that people grab a gun and go shoot people.

    Honestly, I don’t give a rat’s ass if Hoffa wants to call Tea Partiers “sons of bitches” or Maxine Waters tells us to “go straight to hell” and offers to help us get there or Andre Carson insinuates that Tea Partiers want to lynch black people or numerous other Democrats and members of the media refer to fiscally conservative Americans as “terrorists”, “suicide bombers”, and “un-American”. Every time one of these quotes makes the rounds on the cable news networks and the internet, the Democrat Party descends further toward irrelevancy and permanent minority status. I say let them dig their own grave.

    But what I do object to, Tommy, is the sanctimonious and condescending attitude from the left that I’m constantly subjected to where they claim the moral high ground and preach tolerance and civility in our political discourse, yet at the same time are out there making the most vile and hate-filled remarks imaginable about conservatives(such as the ones I mentioned above). It’s a free country. Say whatever the hell you want. But anyone who dares to call their political opponents “terrorists” and then claims to want civility in politics can go piss off.

  • JOEFANSLER

    HERE IS WHAT I KNOW…
    2009 RECOVERY WAS REBOUNDING
    2010 WE HAVE MONTH AFTER MONTH OF GROWTH
    2011–WE STALLED–WHAT HAPPENED? GOP CONTROL OF HOUSE..

    what else do i know?
    Obama will win a 2nd term and the dems will take control of the house—

    dems have sat back and taken the bullies crap for long enough–now its our turn…

    and i do not want to hear any more cry baby waaas from the right winged cray baby machine~

  • Anonymous

    syntax police you fail.  Look at the context and the idiom is clear.  Stop pretending to be a literary critic.

  • Glutton

    Kind of sad where political discourse is going in America. First the Tea Party clowns & now these union thugs. Soon the Taliban will be us the savages.

  • Tj

    Oh boo hoo, GOP can’t take a little name-calling. At least Hoffa isn’t being a complete puss like Obama has been lately. I’m glad he got people fired up. That’s what we need. And Fox fabricates and lies all the time, so I wasn’t surprised at all when hearing about how they doctored the actual quote. 

  • Anonymous

    Outrage over someone using the correct language to encourage the democratic process – amazing.  Putting targets on the faces of politicians and giving handguns out as fundraisers, well that is just fine. 

    Hoffa is correct and proper in encouraging everyone to use their vote to change political leadership.  The denouncers are not supporting the democratic process…

  • Anonymous

    lol I always laugh when I hear someone use ‘regime’ it is such a Right wing buzz word.  Literally it is correct but the contemporary connotation is negative.  You are just one of the programmed…

  • Anonymous

    conservatism killed dozens of children in norway.

    james hoffa was calling on Americans to vote.

    conservatives lied, people died.

  • Anonymous

    I think the preface ‘everyone has a vote’ sums it up.  He is not advocating anything violent unlike a target on a face.  Think.  Just please use your brain and think for a moment.

  • Anonymous

    when will conservatives stop lying? Real Americans are taking their country back from conservatives and are fed up with their lies.

  • Anonymous

    I watched FOX just a few minutes ago, channel surfing stopped and watched the entire clip- unedited, (not “doctored”) the new anchor apologized for the for any families out there for the foul language- she said was intended to be edited out as the news airs when families watch. no sinister doctoring, just consideration for young viewers.  The comment wasn’t directed at the GOP.

  • Anonymous

    Unions gave us weekends off, minimum wage, paid sick leave, and benefits.  We all enjoy the fruits of hard earned Union rights.  Now you curse the very groups that made your life better.  Get ready to be a five dollar an hour Walmart greeter you wonderful conservative real American…

  • Anonymous

    ahh, the ‘blacks’  they have made life so very hard for whites havent they

  • Anonymous

    ‘everyone has a vote’ is the preface he is not inciting violence he is inciting voting.  Try actually listening.  

  • Anonymous

    “conservatism killed dozens of children in norway.”

    And communists and national socialists killed 75 million people.  Hoffa and his “harmless” metaphors are in good company.

  • insideguy

    both sides are such cry babies. All I hear is whining. And with the pundits and politicos its not even real whining , they act upset to try and stir the pot.

  • Anonymous

    Better Dead than Red eh Jo McCarthy – what a joke you are.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Skinner/100000598231323 Brian Skinner

    We did not think he meant to actually kill us Tommy.   We objected to him calling us “sons of Bitches” and then Obama carrying on as if nothing had happened.   I guess he hears thug like comments like this all the time.    If I had been the President I would have calmly said ” I am behind you but I can not stand by the reckless rhetoric used by Jimmy Hoffa.  Please use a more civil and respectful tone towards those that we disagree with after all it is only a difference of opinon”       Obama dropped the ball.    It could have been a great moment in his favor but instead he looks like a cad.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SI5NXALBPMGH5A7BLRV6GWW3BM Jim

    Thank God we have Tommy Christopher to set the record straight.  

  • insideguy

    lol Brain you are such a wuss. He called you sons of bitches oh my god. Is that like you guys calling the president racist, or calling union members thugs? Gee im a union member and im a cop. Am I a thug? wow i think im going to cry and complain now because you guys think im a thug. This is politics its ugly and its gonna get uglier.

  • Anonymous

    hitler was supported by the bush family, the kock family made their billions working for stalin.

    you are scum and trash.

  • Anonymous

    conservavtives.  apologize to james hoffa.  then sit down and be quiet.  Americans are tired of your crap.

  • Anonymous

    For someone who hangs around the White House and ingratiates himself with Obama and his staff like a love struck intern, Tommy sure doesn’t seem to have gotten Obama’s “party over country” message too well.

  • Pit Boss

    It works either way, dummy. Nice try at bein’ smart though!

  • http://twitter.com/BarneyFranken Barney Franken

    Tommy would respond to you, but he’s tired from all the water he carries for the democratic party.

  • Pit Boss

    By your logic, Sarah Palin wants to kill every Democrat in the United States. Sadly, when I actually type that out, it doesn’t sound so far-fetched.

  • Anonymous

    conservative “facts” always end up to be lies and fraud.

    just like conservatives.

    just like hoffa says, Americans are going to vote the bums out.  Real Patriots are taking our country back from conservative scum.

  • http://twitter.com/BarneyFranken Barney Franken

    Norbit is absolutely right. Why care about context now? He said “take them out” and if we learned anything from the Giffords shooting, its that violent rhetoric of any kind will lead to some crazed lunatic taking it literally and killing someone. That was the liberal narrative just a few months ago..why backpedal off it now Tommy?

  • Anonymous

    Fantasy scenarios that happen only in YOUR mind aren’t terribly relevant.

  • Anonymous

    I already wrote that column. You just read it. Show me where I ever said I had a problem with ANY type of rhetoric. 

  • http://twitter.com/BarneyFranken Barney Franken

    Da, Comrade Bob….Da!

  • Anonymous

    Both lies. He referenced 50-60 people in Congress, and the President was not even there when Hoffa spoke.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: What? I can’t read what your writing with your mouth full of balls dude. Swallow it then write back!

  • Anonymous

    White House Declines To Comment On Union Leader’s Anti-Tea Party Rhetoric At Labor Day Rally

  • Anonymous

    Fact: This dude has comedy central on the noodle!

  • Anonymous

    Wow. That is the looniest thing to say.

  • Anonymous

    You said “thug.”
    Apologize.
    “If I had been president….”
    Oh, please. There’s probably a reason you’re not president.
    Obama has been encouraging everyone, including Hoffa, you, and me, to be more civil. There’s only so much he can do, so many times he can say it.
    The Tea Party is doing a lot of damage to this country. Insulting and offending a lot of people is one of the most benign of the Tea Party offenses.
    But it is really hard to understand the Tea Party being thin-skinned about being referred to as SOBs by a Union boss.

  • Anonymous

    How can ANYONE find anything wrong with Teamster Boss Jimmy Hoffa ordering his people to ‘Take Out’ and ‘Wipe Out’ another group of people?  //sarcasm

  • Anonymous

    Ha ha ha.  I love making lefties cry.  

    And, FYI, I would always pick the worst of the Bush family over Obama or his union thug paymasters – Trumka, Hoffa and Stern – and their thick-necked greaseball enforcement monkeys.

  • Texan

    media matters? ROFL!

  • Texan

    media matters? ROFL!

  • Texan

    Thanks skippy!

  • Nature Freak

    I was a member of the Teamsters years ago.

    Conservatives make it sound like I have “thug life” tattooed all over my body.

    My local union was honest. They were about integrity, fairness and ethics. They believed an honest days work deserves an honest days pay. I would have no problem belonging to this union (or any other union) again.

    Guess that makes me a Communist in the eyes of the right.

    Something is very wrong in America today. As you say, politics is”ugly and its gonna get uglier”. I agree. The sad thing is the bitter conflict and saber waving will only make the economy and the national mood worse.

  • Texan

    Thanks fake king!

  • Nature Freak

    This coming from a poster who posts nothing but hate and venom.

  • http://twitter.com/WorldDivider Mark Prior

    I never heard Christie talking about taking people out or calling someone else a son of a fill in the blank.

  • Nature Freak

    After reading James Hoffa’s full quote let me tell you:
    James Hoffa is 100 percent correct. Thank you for telling it like it is Hoffa.
    Like Tommy Christopher says, Conservatives use war metaphors all the time.
    Conservatives are whiny hypocrites.
    Call a whambulance for the Right! They need it!

  • Nature Freak

    People need to fight back and hard at the Tea baggers/ Right wing Conservatives/Radical right.

    President Obama’s problem is he has not nearly fought hard enough against the extremist on the right.

    Conservatives are fooling themselves if they think they can easily roll over the opposition. Conservatives are eating a hubris sandwich. It will be fun to see the Tea Baggers get indigestion over it.

  • Nature Freak

    They talk a lot, but are scared of their own shadow!

  • Pit Boss

    If you want loony, read the post I was replying to. Also, is it really all that loony?: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/01/palin-aide-crosshairs-on-target-list-not-actually-gun-sights.php

  • Nature Freak

    Guyoxim, exactly!

    I guess it’s bad when Hoffa uses SOB, but acceptable when huge amounts of Americans have no health insurance (Texas is almost number 1 BTW), and Republicans like Bachmann bash the minimum wage.

    Strange priorities those conservatives have.

    Tea Bagger motto: I got mine, so screw everyone else.

  • Anonymous

    No, a psycho killed dozens of people in Norway. James Hoffa was NOT calling on Americans to vote he was calling union members to get their marching orders and vote.

  • Anonymous

    Speak for yourself. I prefer to have those who represent me at least sound literate. James Hoffa:

    “Let’s take these sons of bitches out and give America back to America where we belong.”

    Give America back to America… as opposed to who? take it back from the Chinese? I didn’t know American had left America.
    What should conservatives apologize for?

  • Anonymous

     the only time a person cried was when their parents found out they had a hemaphrodite instead of a son.

    obama wins in 2012, nothing you say is going to change that, bitch.

  • Anonymous

     marching orders = fox news telling conservatives what to do.

    real americans are done with you.

  • Anonymous

     the tea party is less liked than al qaeda.  you and your anti american crowd are going down.

  • Anonymous

    conservatives stood outside congress and yelled racial slurs at African-American members of congress, and that was ok to them

    james hoffa urges americans to vote, and conservatives hate him for it.

    conservatism = treason.

  • Anonymous

    you are scum.

  • Anonymous

    America is about freedom.  conservatism isn’t.

    please leave our country and go to saudi arabia.

  • Anonymous

     fact: your mother wishes she was a better aim with that coat hanger and vacuum cleaner.

  • Anonymous

    it figures conservatives would have a problem with people being asked to vote.  they do not wish blacks, hispanics, working people, etc to vote for THEIR country.  conservatism is about removing freedom from as many people as possible.

  • Anonymous

    and it figures you would pick the worst of the bush family.  conservatism is all about the race to the bottom.  its why conservatives worked against America during WWII, they hate this country.

    you are trash and americans are going to take you out.

  • Anonymous

    no, a christian conservative murdered dozens of children at the behest of american conservatives like sean hannity and pamela geller.  just like a conservative murdered 6million people that republicans supported his moves while trying to undermine the commander in chief, FDR.

  • Tom

    This stuff is actually great – the proverbial fuel that will blow this hapless, clueless FLAT OUT STUPID administration out of the water and into the political graveyard where they belong. Independents are already dumping Obama because they’ve learned he is an idiot – a gold-addicted, spineless, gutless, prompter-reading partisan hack who makes Nixon look a choir boy.

  • Anonymous

    maybe once conservatives stop yelling racial slurs at black members of congress and show some respect to the commander in chief, who took out bin laden when conservatives ran away, maybe we’ll be nice to them

    until then, like jimmy hoffa says, americans are going to vote you bums out.

  • Tom

    “golf” addicted :)

  • Anonymous

    you mean john boehner

  • Anonymous

    remember when conservatives aka trash born anti americans apologized to the Commander In Chief of The United States Of America for lying about his record, his religion, his place of birth, and everything else?

    oh wait….

  • Anonymous

    Maybe if Hoffa’s daddy was violent, ruthless and had a nice relationship with the mob…. unions would never have had the stigma of ‘thug’ attached to them. It’s hard to separate an organization from the actions and words of their leaders. I doubt the Tea Party was really surprised by the words coming out of his mouth, just as they are hardly surprised it was used to introduce the POTUS who had nothing to say about the adjective description used for the Tea Party. By saying nothing, his approval of rhetoric was established. It has set the tone for ugly politics, but has Obama ever achieved success without being ugly?

  • Anonymous

    If I recall correctly, and, now correct me if I am wrong, but Sarah Palin was not introducing the President of the United States of America when she made that comment, she was talking about keeping the momentum of the 2010 elections going (wherein we cleaned your clock, by the way).   Your strawman is on fire dude. 

  • Anonymous

    Tea Party has Lower negatives than Obama, Dems, GOP

     COMMENT SHARE FAVORITEVOTE  (0)
     Jacksonville, FL — President Obama’s job approval rating has sunk to an all-time low in the latest Quinnipiac poll.Obama’s disapproval rating is 52%, compared to 47% in July.  Congressional leaders rate even lower in the public eye. The Tea Party has a better rating–with 42% of voters having a negative view.

    http://www.wokv.com/news/news/local/tea-party-has-better-negatives-dems-gop/nDccm/Shove it loser.

  • Anonymous

    I was referring to Hoffa’s army comments. I didn’t realize FOX was telling people what to do? Really?

  • Anonymous

    “…at the behest of American Conservatives” okkkaaayyy sure… 

  • Pit Boss

    You must be the leader of the sheep. I guess that’s something to be proud of. Think for yourself for once, you may find it liberating.

  • Anonymous

    it was glenn beck who cheered the deaths of dozens of children and compared them to nazi youth and sean hannity and pamela geller who’s anti-muslim screed inspired the norway conservative.

  • Bob

    It’s called a transcript. Yu can even play the video for yourself.
    Try to fake snicker and dismiss, but the facts speak for themselves: FOX lied and has contempt for their audience, including you.

  • Bob

    The pearl clutching bit might be believable from you rightwingers if your side didn’t revere a certain OXycontin-addled Rush Limabugh who makes his living from ugly rhetoric.

  • Bob

    huh?
    GOP lost seats in Wisconsin.
    Kasich’s anti-union crap is polling heavily to be repealed.
    Sorry to burst your bubble, but all the divisive union-demonizing whipped up by the corporatist rightwingers just isn’t playing.

  • Bob

    boo-friggin-hoo.
    Wake me up when you get just as outraged the next time a GOP president kisses Rush Limbaugh’s butt without condemning the decades of ugly things he’s said.

  • Bob

    all this union-bashing from the rightwing.
    I guess they’re all just eager as hell to give up their vacation days and paid overtime, start working 40+hours every week, have safety laws thrown out and not be able to retire at 65.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Yea, but the difference is, Palin is accused of murder and Hoffa is given a pass, defended, and taken in context.

  • JohnJGuy

    Thanks.

    That’s right.I am The Man in The Iron Mask!

  • Anonymous

    No one has been shot after his speech. So your analogy is lame. 

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Bravo!

  • Norbit

    Creating a false premise is one of the most oft-used deceptions of today’s Democrat. 

    Recently, for example, by Obama imploring Republicans to put party aside for the sake of the country, it’s implied that he has already done this.
    The reality, of course, is that we’ve all seen and heard his villification of everyone from the Chamber of Commerce to auto company bond holders, and even against the supposed “greed” of our own Doctors!!!
     
    Please do yourself a favor and track the man’s speeches. Then compare what he’s said to what he’s done!
    The man will LIE about anything!
     
    He will villify anyone disagreeing with his socialist agenda, and will use every machination to gain an upper political hand. He is a rank Chicago politician of the Socialist-Left ilk, who clearly places power and cronyism over principle!

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    No one was shot after Palin’s speech, either. And TC used her as an analogy.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    “Despite President Obama’s repeated claims to change the tone in Washington, the White House had no comment this afternoon after Teamsters Union leader James Hoffa, speaking at an event before President Obama, said of Tea Party activists that, come November, Democrats should “take these sons of bitches out.”

    Doesn’t look like FOX is the only one who noticed…

  • Norbit

    LOL!

    I was reading your post, and until the last line it sounded like profile of today’s Democratic Party!

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    Biden had his own bit of violent rhetoric from that day, as well.

    ‘You Are The Only Folks Keeping The Barbarians From the Gates’http://nation.foxnews.com/teamsters/2011/09/05/teamsters-boss-declares-war-gop-lets-take-son-bitches-out

  • Norbit

    I’m considering launching a site specifically to detail how Republicans should be exposing and responding to the spate of false narratives created by Democrats - and a mainstream media that enthusiastically propagates those narratives – on any number of issues.

    The total ineptitude of the GOP to articulate a cogent message is almost unbelievable – year after year!  

  • Anonymous

    There is no proof of that. You lie.

  • Anonymous

    Is that the latest Media Matters talking points?

  • Anonymous

    Without useful idiots like yourself, the job of the Presstitutes like Tommy would be nearly impossible.

  • Anonymous

    Boy, are you a complete nutjob, or what. How can you even type with your straightjacket on?

  • Anonymous

    Tommy. You can’t really believe that, can you? Who put those 50-60 people in congress? Did they just magically appear?

    And do you really think the Poser in Chief or anyone on his staff didn’t know what was said before he went on?

    You are a good Presstitute. Keep up the good work.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DLLT5OIC3U6T63HIQBDU4E7KLQ Unshackledtruth

    Stupid brain dead sheep people, you keep following and giving and yet never understand why things happen the way they do, things seem to remain basically the same and it is easy to point a finger at the opposite side of the circle and put the blame there, but the circle is connected and keeps going around and around, this is why we never change and if you keep buying the fake scripted lies of the media you will forever remain a lost sheep. Vote Ron Paul wake up and break the chain.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DLLT5OIC3U6T63HIQBDU4E7KLQ Unshackledtruth

    Stupid brain dead sheep people, you keep following and giving and yet never understand why things happen the way they do, things seem to remain basically the same and it is easy to point a finger at the opposite side of the circle and put the blame there, but the circle is connected and keeps going around and around, this is why we never change and if you keep buying the fake scripted lies of the media you will forever remain a lost sheep. Vote Ron Paul wake up and break the chain.

  • Anonymous

    Well, that a and a nice lump of coal for Christmas bonus!

    Dude, it’s 2011. Get real.

  • Anonymous

    @Tommy  Christopher…

    Good work. In your coverage of “violent rhetoric” in American media, I’m surprised that you have never done a story about this image, posted at rushlimbaugh•com…

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_061511/content/01125110.Par.4584.ImageFile.jpg

    It accompanies a transcript titled “The Ignorance of Barack Obama”.
    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_061511/content/01125110.guest.html

    Limbaugh’s hunt for a Manchurian volunteer is veiled, and cleverly coded, but it’s real. Hoffa used a poorly chosen metaphor to encourage people to vote. Big difference.

  • Anonymous

    What part of “this is your army, and we are ready to march” do you not understand? Is there part of “The one thing about working people is we like a good fight. And you know what? They’ve got a war, they got a war with us and there’s only going to be one winner.” that confuses you?

  • Anonymous

    What part of “this is your army, and we are ready to march” do you not understand? Is there part of “The one thing about working people is we like a good fight. And you know what? They’ve got a war, they got a war with us and there’s only going to be one winner.” that confuses you?

  • Anonymous

    No, Bob. You lie and I have contempt for you.

  • Anonymous

    The same POTUS who’s been preaching civility and about putting partisan politics aside. Which means “Do it our way, so’s we don’t have to fight.”

  • Anonymous

    such a funny reply.  The only ones playng the race card are the left….and no one ran away from Bin Laden; Obama continued the tactics and techniques of Bush so the intelligence to find and get OBL was a continuation of years of hard work by our intelligence guys.  Crediting Obama with this is stupid; he didn’t plan the mission, he simply gave them the thumbs up to conduct the mission.  Get a grip, Obama is a one termer, and rightly so.

  • Anonymous

    Given that he was paraphrasing progressive rhetoric, no.  Beck was not making a call to arms, he was describing one…from Pelosi’s left.

    Do you even know the context of that quote, Bob?

  • Anonymous

    It’s not the pearl clutching, it’s the hypocrisy, the lying. If Hoffa wants some, his fat ass is welcome to come get some, and you can some with him if you like.

  • Anonymous

    During the recent Verizon strike our local gaggle of self made vagrants were wearing red T-Shirts with crosshairs and the words “Scab Hunter.” Because of the Union civility.

  • Anonymous

    The shooting in Arizona wasn’t a shooting? duh!

  • Anonymous

    No, this is not like the time Rick Perry called Obama a “big black cloud” because he’s a racist. The fact that Hoffa worked the word vote into that POTUS introduction does not mitigate the rant.

    Try again.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve seen the full clip on Fox repeatedly. You lie.

  • Anonymous

    Dude, you’re sucking up spin from Tommy Freaking Christopher. Please.

  • Anonymous

    Gretchen Carlson just demolished Debbie Wassermann Schultz on this. We’ll be seeing that clip a lot.

  • http://twitter.com/jtLOL ‘Jim’ ‘Treacher’

    You’re hilarious, Tommy! Great stuff as always.

  • http://twitter.com/jtLOL ‘Jim’ ‘Treacher’

    You’re hilarious, Tommy! Great stuff as always.

  • Anonymous

    Now it’s doctored? Good Christ, you people are certifiable.

  • Anonymous

    His father was a union thug and so is he. FK both of ‘em!

  • Anonymous

    The shooting in Arizona had nothing to do with what Sarah Palin said.

  • Anonymous

    No, it isn’t the preface, nor is it the premise. It’s just tossed in there somewhere. I listened and I heard “This is your army and we’re ready to march.”

  • Anonymous

    Wow! Another tolerant liberal. Gotta love the hypocrisy. 

  • Anonymous

    You are one sick puppy.

  • Anonymous

    Smoking the wacky weed again?

  • Anonymous

    WalMart pays 5 bucks an hour? That’s interesting.

  • Anonymous

    He already wrote that comment. You just read it.

    “It is also true that the “crosshair map” was grossly irresponsible.”

    http://tinyurl.com/2vftazm

  • Anonymous

    http://tinyurl.com/3vha5ju

    How quickly you forget.

  • http://billschmalfeldt.com Bill Schmalfeldt

    Yes sir, nothing a right wing lunatic likes better than to portray himself as a victim.  Fox mangles the quote, takes it out of context, ignores its own reporter when he tries to set the record straight, lies AGAIN about the quote and the word spreads all OVER the right wing boobyhatchery that Jimmy Hoffa Jr. is lusting for the blood of conservatives.  Heck!  Why tell the TRUTH when the LIE is just so much more FUN to TELL?

    http://bit.ly/qcfpVi

  • Anonymous

    When did he say anything about Congress? He said the TEA Party.

    War on workers. TEA Party. Where do you get the authority to put words in his mouth?

    And didn’t Hoffa speak just before Obama? Where was he just before he took the stage?

  • Anonymous

    So, did your parents recover?

  • Anonymous

    Really? Because I heard Obama give what I think was the best speech he’s ever given in Tuscon earlier this year. You didn’t hear that? It seems you’re not alone in that. Apparently, he didn’t hear it either.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    The shooting in AZ was not after a Palin speech, had nothing to do with Palin, and he was not incited by anything Palin said. 

  • Anonymous

    I think SOB’s is a fine description of teabaggers and if you are one of them then feel free to take offence or get a clue about what the tea party is trying to do to America.

  • MY_GRUMPY

    NO ONE TAKES TEAMSTERS SERIOUS ANYMORE. HOW MANY TRUCKINF COMPANIES WENT OUT OF BUSINESS,BECAUSE OF SALARY AND BENEFITS.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, doctored:
    ‘ To falsify or change in such a way as to make favorable to oneself: doctored the evidence.’

    By showing a portion of a clip without showing proper context is to change it and alter its meaning.

    The very fact you didn’t get that speaks volumes about your lack of education and also explains why fox ‘news’ have confused you into backing them up.

  • Anonymous

    You folks never come back the next day to apologize after having been proved wrong.
    The deceitful accusation is the most important thing to you isn’t it?
    What does that say about you as a person? What does that say about the positions you support?
    Shameless is not an accusation to this so much as a definition.

  • Texan

    Nothing was “falsified or changed,” dummy.

  • Anonymous

    Neither did the Tea Party or Republicans.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OBU4D2DRPP7NCZ5VYINCDZF4PY Abe

    Oh well, that’s better.

    At least Hoffa didn’t make a concrete threat — you know, like…we’ll take those sons of bitches to the Meadowlands…like his old man.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OBU4D2DRPP7NCZ5VYINCDZF4PY Abe

    Oh well, that’s better.

    At least Hoffa didn’t make a concrete threat — you know, like…we’ll take those sons of bitches to the Meadowlands…like his old man.

  • Pit Boss

    How is this any different? Both were quotes taken out-of-context and meant something entirely different than what was actually said.

    Oh wait, I already know the difference: Fox News will beat it into the ground and never apologize for it.

  • http://www.delawareliberal.net Joe Cass

    You date crossdressers too but you’re still an idiot.

  • http://www.delawareliberal.net Joe Cass

    How many, teabag? Please enlighten us.

  • FC

    Who cares about the bad language!  What is infuriating to me is that this piece of nothing is advising his followers to KILL Teaparty folks and Republicans.  is there NOBODY IN TODAY’S “MEDIA” WHO KNOWS THE TRUE DEFINITION OF THE PHRAISE, “TO TAKE OUT”?  Or must one have lived in that wasteland (literally) of Detroit to know what Hoffa, Jr.,  was really saying?  

  • http://www.delawareliberal.net Joe Cass

    Did you stop to threaten them, tough guy? No you didn’t because you don’t have the heart.

  • insideguy

    This argument is so silly from both sides. Rhetoric in the past has been far worse. Americans in this country appear to live in a vacuum. This sort of thing hasn’t even started to heat up yet. You just wait until the republicans nominate someone,then the real race will start. So much dirt is going to be thrown by both sides that the whole country will be covered in mud.

  • Anonymous

    It would appear Tommy Christopher and Leftists of similar integrity in the comments from this article fail to recall just a few months ago when Nancy Pelosi was practically weeping about how she’s “heard talk like this before” and the rest of the Democrats were bemoaning the supposedly violent rhetoric of the tea parties and the supposedly dangerous Republicans.  It would appear that Democrats are so shameless their glaring hypocrisy and outright deceitful propaganda is something they can pretend isn’t taking place.  Either that or Democrats are so enmeshed in double think they can’t even tell anymore.  I don’t know which is worse.

    If Democrats believe their ideology is so superior why does it require constant deceit and bullying?  Maybe you should ask yourselves that.

    WHEN you people bring about a new Kristalnacht, this time on Republicans, please don’t act surprised or try to defend it.  At least admit what you’ve done.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    well, what do ya know… 

    spoke too soon, skyfet? 

    At Least 3 Dead in Shooting Rampage at IHOP Restaurant in Nevada

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/06/at-least-8-reportedly-shot-at-ihop-restaurant-in-nevada/#ixzz1XCmeVkl3

    Considering the Left IMMEDIATELY jumped to link AZ shooting to Palin, speculating whether Hoffa inspired this shooting should be a-ok with you, right? Especially considering Palin or the tea party had NOTHING to do with Laughner’s rampage.

  • GeorgeInWisconsin

    I’m with ya ReaganiteRepublican!  Game on!  Here in Wisconsin we showed we can win the war.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKUL7623H4GS5ODYY33NMLT7RQ MoDans55

    Well, that’s TWO pencil-neck geeks.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKUL7623H4GS5ODYY33NMLT7RQ MoDans55

    Yeah, dude, it’s 2011. The state of Missouri TRIED abolish the Child Labor Law. Open your eyes, sonny. Our Worker Rights are being systematically erased.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKUL7623H4GS5ODYY33NMLT7RQ MoDans55

    You showed dick. You lost two seats in REPUBLICAN districts. Wait til January when your two-faced governor is re-called.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKUL7623H4GS5ODYY33NMLT7RQ MoDans55

    No, Pablo. You’re a moron who can’t admit that he’s wrong when the FACTS are right there in black-and-white.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKUL7623H4GS5ODYY33NMLT7RQ MoDans55

    Awwww, did you get scared and wet your pants? Do you not know the true definiton of the phrase, “Everybody here’s got to vote.”?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKUL7623H4GS5ODYY33NMLT7RQ MoDans55

    Oh, you’re admitting to having knowledge of Hoffa, Sr.’s EXACT burial spot?  Are you admitting to being an accomplice to a murder?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XKUL7623H4GS5ODYY33NMLT7RQ MoDans55

    Make it one more, you son-of-a-bitch.

  • Davmelt

     Lol 2 republican district seats lost, and the only reason Scott isnt gone yet is cause he can’t be recalled for a full year, which he will be.

  • Anonymous

    maybe, what are you going to do about it you old queen?

  • Miragerf

    Obama should put Hoffa on his campaign team.
    He has a way with words.
    You know where he stands and I like that.

  • Miragerf

    The Southern Poverty Law Center ranks the Tea Party as the most dangerous homegrown terrorist group in America.  Glenn Beck said so.

  • Anonymous

    Nice try, Tommy ButtBoy.  This fat, illiterate, mobster-wanna-be is trying to play the union tough-guy, and only a fool would say otherwise.  But the best response to this dork came from Sarah Palin, oddly enough, who laughed at Hoffa and invited the Tea Party-loving union rank and file to join up with them and turn against their $300,000 a year slavemasters in the union.

    Well done, Sarah. Laughter is all this douchebag is worthy of.

  • Ronin

    I think you guys have that market cornered.

    You should never have used these tactics. Now they’re being applied to you guys and you’re all whiney.

    Boo.hoo.

  • Ronin

    Oh, grow a pair and start holding yourselves to a higher standard. This cheap crap is tiresome and makes you even more marginalized by people with free will and the ability to think critically.

  • Ronin

    Listen, if Gunwalker can’t or won’t, then this sure as hell won’t.

    Gunwalker has killed over 70 people, run over 2000 guns to Mexico and American crime scenes, as well as IED makers and equipment. This has then, apparently, been used as a pretext to curtail the rights of Americans.

    It sure curl your toes.

  • Ronin

    “the tea party is less liked than al qaeda.”

    …among socialists.

  • Jaime

    Hoffa is a thug.  Unions are a farce that don’t do anything but take worker money.  They are outdated and useless.  If you don’t like the way your employer treats you, talk to your boss.  If your boss does nothing, take it higher.  Talk about it idiot.  If that doesn’t work, get a different job if you have any qualifications that add to that company’s productivity.

  • caconservative

    All this vitriol about the Tea-Party and yet, when you ask an Obamacon what is it specifically, you don’t like the Tea-Party, all you get is a blank stare. Come on Liberal sheeple, give a list of reasons why a non-organized group of legal Americans scare you so badly.

  • ElizaJane

    You really don’t get it, do you? The clip you saw had been EDITED. You did not see, on Fox, the entirety of what Hoffa said.
    Sheesh.

  • Anonymous

    Looks like another Hoffa needs to disappear and never be seen again.  Same Sick Lies as from his daddy!  Unions are Obama’s Brown Shirts so keep your Powder Dry and your Weapons Clean!  Buy More Ammo!  If these AntiAmerican Scum want to take us out, Bring It On, MF’s!  This old disabled Vet is ready to Kick Ass and Take Names from the Leftist Slimeballs!  Obama is out of there in 2012, no doubt! 

  • Anonymous

    Looks like another Hoffa needs to disappear and never be seen again.  Same Sick Lies as from his daddy!  Unions are Obama’s Brown Shirts so keep your Powder Dry and your Weapons Clean!  Buy More Ammo!  If these AntiAmerican Scum want to take us out, Bring It On, MF’s!  This old disabled Vet is ready to Kick Ass and Take Names from the Leftist Slimeballs!  Obama is out of there in 2012, no doubt! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/gary.slavinsky Gary Slavinsky

    Until January, everyone Republicans and Democratics,used the word “targeting” in their campaign strategies and had pics of cross hairs on their maps; . In Fact, I used it in marketing strategy in the 80′s. As a therapist, I use it in “target behaviors”. But when Gabby Gifford was tragically shot, suddenly it was Sarah Palins fault because she “targeted” districts? After that fact distortion, you have to expect a reaction to Hoffa calling us SOBs, Waters telling us to “go straight to hell” Giden calling us “Barbarians” and “Terrorists, even (and this is the most ridiculous: “racists”) You all must be scared as you should with the poll numbers, to throw all of this out there. Uh, what happened the the “discourse of civility” you guys touted in January? There is NO evidence of racism in the Tea party. I challenge anyone to produce a recording demonstrating this alleged racism.. We just want to save the US economy from total destruction. And save Socialk Security, Medicare & Medicaid from bankruptcy. This has never really been a recovery. 30 years from now, it will be called a depression. We need Perry to clean up this mess as Reagan cleaned up after Carter. It’s a bigger job this time, but Perry can do it.47% of the jobs created in Obamas term were created in Texas. Having lived there recently, I can tell you that these are NOT oil jobs. Medicine and technology thrive there because govenrment if friendly to business. I would have stayed had it not been so far from my family

  • Anonymous

    Sham on ya, for not playing with politics of the deceased. What about their families? You have no thought for them, as long as it plays with your stupid political point. I’m embarrassed for you.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    You mean like how the Left cared about the families in AZ, or all the people they accused of being responsible for his murderous rampage? 

    You claimed no one was shot after Hoffa’s speech. Well, that’s not true. Doesn’t mean it had anything to do with Hoffa, but Laughner didn’t have anything to do with Palin, but that didn’t stop YOU from claiming it did. 

  • Anonymous

    Right! Your silliness is plain to see. Connecting that shooting can’t be made, not even close. The people shot were not elected officials from the GOP, nor was it at a Political event so that analogy is unfounded. In regards to blaming Palin, tough luck, I didn’t do it then but if you want to use this to justify criticizing Hoffa, then you’ve just landed on a pile of shit.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    “Connecting that shooting can’t be made, not even close. ” - You link Palin to the AZ shooting, right there, even though there was NO connection – yet you just keep linking them together.

    “No one has been shot after his speech. So your analogy is lame.” -  And here you claim no one was shot after Hoffa’s speech. 

    You are wrong in both counts. 

    No one was shot after a Palin speech, and Palin had nothing to do with the AZ shooting. People were just show after Hoffa’s speech. Why no speculation about whether he was influenced by the anti-tea party rhetoric, and the fact that they want to secure the border? 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sam-Hassock/100001390055136 Sam Hassock

    Who got shot in the head again?
    Paranoia is a b!tch, isn’t it?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sam-Hassock/100001390055136 Sam Hassock

    Or he could’ve meant…or he could’ve meant.
    You D-Bags think everyone is like you, speaking in code words and dog whistles.
    Give it up, terrorist. we are taking america back from the corporations, whether you want it or not.
    Go tell your astroturf boss he better start packing.

    (And no, I don’t mean ‘packing heat’)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sam-Hassock/100001390055136 Sam Hassock

    You don’t know your rectum from a hole in the ground.

  • http://www.trommetter.com/log/ JasonTromm

    Some media outlets may have taken Hoffa’s quote out of context, but what scares me when watching the full clip is the crowd reaction. Some of those people sound like they’re ready to grab pitchforks and torches and storm the Koch’s secret compound.

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