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	<title>Comments on: Jimmy Fallon Solves Olbermann-Beck Beef</title>
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		<title>By: ImNotBlue</title>
		<link>http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jimmy-fallon-solves-olbermann-beck-beef/#comment-3952</link>
		<dc:creator>ImNotBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 04:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>m... that&#039;s just silly.  Come on, be serious.  Here we go:

1- FOX doesn&#039;t &quot;tear about MSNBC every night.&quot;  In fact, they only a rare occasions talk about them... and certainly not as much as Olbermann talks about FOX.  I think you&#039;d be hard pressed to find an evening where KO didn&#039;t mention FNC at least once... whether it&#039;s a full segment, or a mention in the WPITW, it&#039;s quite literally every night with that guy.

2- How was FNC &quot;state run media?&quot;  Exactly what examples can you give me (and I hope they&#039;re better than the ones I pick apart below)?

3- Tony Snow began his career as a journalist and television pundit well before FNC ever came along.  Taking a break from that, he worked for President George H.W. Bush (the first one), as speech writer and then &quot;Deputy Assistant to the President for Media Affairs.&quot;  (This is all Wiki stuff.)  After that ended, then he went back to media stuff and joined FNC in a variety of different positions, until he left to join the Bush Administration in 2006.

The point is, this is someone who had a long career BEFORE FNC... and if you really want to play that game, compare Snow&#039;s FNC to WH, with all the former journalists currently working for the Obama Administration... including: Rosa Brooks (LA Times), Linda Douglass (ABC), Jay Carney (Time Magazine), Peter Gosselin (LA Times), Jill Zuckman (Tribune), etc.  The fact is, every president winds up hiring someone in &quot;the media&quot; to work for them... mostly because they&#039;re often well educated, know the subject matter, and have good experience communicating the message.  Snow&#039;s appointment isn&#039;t the &quot;evidence&quot; you think it is.

4- Karl Rove would have been sucked up by ANY network willing to fork over the dollars.  Ex-insiders are always getting scooped up.  What about Howard Dean now working for MSNBC, or Harold Ford Jr. on MSNBC, or even Geraldine Ferraro at FNC?  Are those also &quot;Nuff said&quot; examples?  This is media, and big names help get bigger ratings... but for you to align them with &quot;obvious bias&quot; either means you&#039;re not familiar enough with the business, or your selective outrage is only focused on what you perceive to be &quot;non-Democrat friendly&quot; outlets.  Either way, no good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>m&#8230; that&#8217;s just silly.  Come on, be serious.  Here we go:</p>
<p>1- FOX doesn&#8217;t &#8220;tear about MSNBC every night.&#8221;  In fact, they only a rare occasions talk about them&#8230; and certainly not as much as Olbermann talks about FOX.  I think you&#8217;d be hard pressed to find an evening where KO didn&#8217;t mention FNC at least once&#8230; whether it&#8217;s a full segment, or a mention in the WPITW, it&#8217;s quite literally every night with that guy.</p>
<p>2- How was FNC &#8220;state run media?&#8221;  Exactly what examples can you give me (and I hope they&#8217;re better than the ones I pick apart below)?</p>
<p>3- Tony Snow began his career as a journalist and television pundit well before FNC ever came along.  Taking a break from that, he worked for President George H.W. Bush (the first one), as speech writer and then &#8220;Deputy Assistant to the President for Media Affairs.&#8221;  (This is all Wiki stuff.)  After that ended, then he went back to media stuff and joined FNC in a variety of different positions, until he left to join the Bush Administration in 2006.</p>
<p>The point is, this is someone who had a long career BEFORE FNC&#8230; and if you really want to play that game, compare Snow&#8217;s FNC to WH, with all the former journalists currently working for the Obama Administration&#8230; including: Rosa Brooks (LA Times), Linda Douglass (ABC), Jay Carney (Time Magazine), Peter Gosselin (LA Times), Jill Zuckman (Tribune), etc.  The fact is, every president winds up hiring someone in &#8220;the media&#8221; to work for them&#8230; mostly because they&#8217;re often well educated, know the subject matter, and have good experience communicating the message.  Snow&#8217;s appointment isn&#8217;t the &#8220;evidence&#8221; you think it is.</p>
<p>4- Karl Rove would have been sucked up by ANY network willing to fork over the dollars.  Ex-insiders are always getting scooped up.  What about Howard Dean now working for MSNBC, or Harold Ford Jr. on MSNBC, or even Geraldine Ferraro at FNC?  Are those also &#8220;Nuff said&#8221; examples?  This is media, and big names help get bigger ratings&#8230; but for you to align them with &#8220;obvious bias&#8221; either means you&#8217;re not familiar enough with the business, or your selective outrage is only focused on what you perceive to be &#8220;non-Democrat friendly&#8221; outlets.  Either way, no good.</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would Glenn Beck and all the other Fox News personalities talk about if they didn&#039;t have MSNBC to tear apart every night? The Fox News channel during the Bush years was way closer to a state-run media than what MSNBC is today; Tony Snow becoming the press secretary and Karl Rove jumping ship to become a FNC contributor. Nuff said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would Glenn Beck and all the other Fox News personalities talk about if they didn&#8217;t have MSNBC to tear apart every night? The Fox News channel during the Bush years was way closer to a state-run media than what MSNBC is today; Tony Snow becoming the press secretary and Karl Rove jumping ship to become a FNC contributor. Nuff said.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie Denson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie Denson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder WHAT Olbermann would talk, er fuss about, IF he didn&#039;t have Glen Beck to tear apart every night?  To me, he has nothing to say about ANYONE unless it pertains to his love, BHO.  I don&#039;t know why he doesn&#039;t just go to the WH and stay up there with him.  That way, maybe we wouldn&#039;t have to listen to him on MSNBC, since Obama seems to own that also.  Actually, I do not EVER watch him, I just had to see what this program had to say.  OLBERMANN STINKS, GLEN BECK IS VERY GOOD AND HAS A VERY HIGH RATING.  NOT one that is so low, as Olbermann&#039;s!!  That isn&#039;t the end of that thought, because his ratings are going down, even as I write.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder WHAT Olbermann would talk, er fuss about, IF he didn&#8217;t have Glen Beck to tear apart every night?  To me, he has nothing to say about ANYONE unless it pertains to his love, BHO.  I don&#8217;t know why he doesn&#8217;t just go to the WH and stay up there with him.  That way, maybe we wouldn&#8217;t have to listen to him on MSNBC, since Obama seems to own that also.  Actually, I do not EVER watch him, I just had to see what this program had to say.  OLBERMANN STINKS, GLEN BECK IS VERY GOOD AND HAS A VERY HIGH RATING.  NOT one that is so low, as Olbermann&#8217;s!!  That isn&#8217;t the end of that thought, because his ratings are going down, even as I write.</p>
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