Scarborough is a phony. Since when is contraception an attack on religion. It’s stupid statement and standing like this that still lets Catholic Church get away with their standings on condoms (even though they have many in the 3rd world who are at risk). 

Barry has to weasel around it till after the election.

Just like the pipeline and gay marriage.

It sounds like they are broadcasting on the street!

Catholics want all the benefits associated with redemption and the afterlife, but they want to selectively pick and choose which of the church’s teachings they are going to follow. Where is the outrage by the church directed towards its members?

It seems fine to you obviously, but also obviously isn’t fine to millions of other people.  So, like being forced to pay a tax for breathing (mandated healthcare) is this also to be forced on those who oppose it because you like it?   Do you also like crushing seals heads with a truncheon? Does that mean we should all be doing that too?

“The Democrats’ WAR ON RELIGION!”

How’s that for a campaign slogan?
(heh-heh-heh)

The Catholic Church isn’t providing the birth control; whatever health
plan they sign up with is providing it. Unless the Catholic Church is
providing the insurance to their employees, the have no grounds for
argument.

When will we be hearing from the Offended Class on the Left about Roland martin’s jokes about GAY VIOLENCE?

Why is the Media not calling for his – FIRING like they did with IMUS?

Do ALL Democrats pretend to support gay rights in public, but ridicule and beraate them behind the scene?

The GOP should make this a Campaign Issue!

Exactly… What number marriage is Joe on again?  Hypocritical @#$%$…

This is ridiculous, the mandate is that they are not allowed to discriminate based on their teachings. They shouldn’t opt out from providing contraception. Are you still living in pre 2000 AD mentality? If that’s the case, you shouldn’t be having premarital sex hence you may not need contraception to begin with (for sleeping around). Contraception or family planing has nothing to do with religiosity, people will gt pregnant condoms/pills or not.

98 percent of Catholics in the U.S. self-report that they use contraception.  So, why is this an issue?  I wish the Catholics would get as upset about all the molesting by their priests.

They’re providing the insurance. That’s the problem. Duh. And you know what their available solution is? Stop providing insurance at all, for which they’ll be fined. That will work out well for everyone, huh?

 Refusing to pay for contraceptives and sterilization is not discrimination.

“It’s Soros, Obama and the Democrats vs. GOD!”

Great T-Shirt!
heh-heh

Not in all cases, there is a large faith based plan in my area. If the ruling was (or is) these organizations must allow employees access to non-affiliated plans that offer it then ok, though an unfair practices argument could be made since they’d lose income, but they shouldn’t be forced to provide services that are against their religion just because some secular or other religion person decided their religious practices aren’t as valid as their own. Next thing you know a graduating student who is deeply religious and thanks God for everything won’t be allowed to thank God at their graduation – oh wait…

Good you agree and see the light.

I wonder how long it’s going to be until Phil Griffin tells Scarborough that “I don’t think the ideas that you put forth are appropriate for national dialogue on MSLSD.”

Lib Activist Garrison Keillor is on his third marriage, yet he’s scolding, pontificating, and wagging his finger OBAMO-like. One has to wonder (seriously) how he managed to convince any lady to marry him, let alone THREE of them. He’s so hideous-looking, it clearly has to be that ‘One-percent millionaire money’ he makes but wants to pretend he doesn’t.

 The flock doesn’t lead the Church, the Church leads the flock. That people do things that go against Church teachings does not negate Church teachings. In fact, it’s why they have confessionals.

 I wish you could read.

GLAAD has called out CNN for Martin’s unacceptable language.

I wish you could use logic.

The Catholic church should have its members swear on the Bible they are not using contraception. If they refuse to do so, they should be denied communion.  If the church did that, I would respect their position on this issue.

The Catholic Church is pushing this as their own brand of ‘Sharia Law.’ They are insisting that all adhere to their beliefs and are insisting government help them. 

I am. You just fail to recognize it. Can’t help you there.

“The Catholic Church Is Being Attacked By Far Left”

This is a lie. Why print this garbage? Yes, it’s fun to look at “Wow look at that crazy headline” but dumb people like Pablo don’t realize its opinion based news that has nothing to do with fact or reality.

 You should leave the Catholic Church’s relationship with Catholics to the Catholics and the Catholic Church. You clearly know nothing about either.

Pablo is bone crazy and deserves to live on a stranded island by himself eating coconuts.

 No, they’re not insisting that all adhere to their beliefs. They’re instisting that they be allowed to adhere to their beliefs, as opposed to being forced to violate them.

You mean like Newt?

I wonder how long it will take Pablo to Realize that Republicans are using him for the tool and retarded step-child of Sarah Palin that he is.

Bishops trying to act as nation’s moral guardian on issue that has no relevance to 98% of the country but can’t take a stand on child molestation. There’s something not quite right here but I can’t quite put my finger on it.

What 2,000 year old “beliefs”? I have never seen one Catholic who is sexually active not on some kind of birth control or using condoms. 98 percent of Catholics take birth control. http://www.salon.com/2012/02/02/catholics_need_to_preach_what_we_practice/

This is why employer-based healthcare is problemmatic. Both sides are right, but there’s no available middle-ground. There’s also a unfair tax-advantage issue, but that’s another argument.

So how does that work. The employer chooses the health care provider, and pays for that on behalf of the employee (with his or her co-pay), and then the employer tells the employee that certain kinds of usually covered medical care is not going to be provided because it violates the employer’s religious beliefs? And that is an assault on religion? No, that is an assault on the rights of employees.

 Scarborough isn’t Catholic.

No, they are insisting that the government not impose its beliefs over their beliefs.

OK, let’s see now, are there any policies that the tea baggers have agreed upon with President Obama.  Hummm…………let me think.  Hmmmmmmm…….still thinking.  

Since when does a religion decide what kind of medical care it gives its employees? There is no way religion belongs between people and their medical care.

Anyone who is not pure of heart should not participate in the Sacrament of Communion.  If there are those who are using contraception and have made their peace through prayer or the Sacrament of Reconcilliation then they can certainly receive Communion.  That is the teaching of the Church, so they are consistent.  Does that mean you respect their position now?

Like Rush?  Oh never mind, he’s on his fourth wife.

Old (supposedly celibate) men making decisions about women’s health, when they’re not covering up pedophilia.

You’d think that they’d want us heathens to practice birth control so we’d eventually be outnumbered. They just want the cafeteria Catholics to secretly pay elsewhere for reproductive health care banned by cloistered old men who have never raised children of their own but miraculously determined that contraception is against God’s will. 

Do Catholic hospitals only employ subservient catholics or do they have a multicultural staff? That’s a rhetorical question and the subsequent conclusion isn’t complicated.

The millions of others are not being required to have an abortion or use birth control and what they like medically is irrelevent to the other people and their legal right to receieve full, not partial medical care. Since when does a religion tell people what kind of medical care they can get, if they want it?

Gratuitous slur on Protestants.

The insurers and the employer negotiate that plans that will be offered.

You don’t have a right to employer provided contraception.

Oh, I don’t doubt they find some loophole to justify bad conduct all the while convincing themselves they are still good Christians in the process. 

Contraception isn’t medical care.

 Try Baptists, Kook.

 You think so, and you’d be wrong.

This is little more than the anti-Catholic/Christian bigotry of the Left!
It’s been building for 40 years.

If this was a Muslim issue (i.e. The Victory Mosque), these same Lefty Hypocrites would be screaming RACIST! 

 The beliefs of the church don’t go back 2000 years, they go back to which ever ruling monarchy decided beliefs at that time.  Thinks the Borgias, Think Pope Urban and the Templars, Think Constantine.  Constantine held the council at Nicea in 325AD and pulled together all the bishops and they VOTED on what to believe.  But it changes again and again.  Did you know that before 1075AD Nuns and Priests could get married?These are not mandates by God, they are mandates by men.If the church really wanted to claim piety and lead their flocks by example then they should really work on a few things. Of course the molestation issue is pretty hypocritical but the other more blaring and arrogant is the Vatican worth BILLIONS of dollars shouldnt all that money go to charity?    So much for that vow of poverty.

In your lame attempt at using logic, stopping religious body from discrimination based on a 2000yrs old ideology is an attack. Clearly you are lacking in logic on this matter.

They’re not insisting that their non-Catholic or their Catholic employees cannot use birth control. They’re insisting that they not be forced to provide/pay for it.

You’re right, it isn’t the least bit complicated.

Well, the flock also ignores the Church regularly. On this and other matters. Keep up the good  work, tho (maybe tone down the molesting). 

And yet it flies gracefully over your head looking down upon you shaking it’s head in wonder at how the simplest of concepts escape you with such alarming regularity.

Why doesn’t the Catholic church sit down and point out every single piece of medical care that violates its catechism with specific biblical references to back it up? Because it’s completely full of the most unGodly hypcritical sh*t imaginable and has the sheer nerve to stick it’s neck out on this specific issue while it continues to knowingly horde countless child abusers in its scummy midst

Pablo,
Most catholic hospitals and universities already provide standard medical insurance plans for their employees that places no limitation on reproductive care. Unless an employer specifically “negotiates” for it, to not have reproductive care in coverage would be quite unusual.

Yes, it’s the “We’re all sinners” doctrine.

joe is an extremist evangelical christian catholic an d often goes on long screaming preaching rants.. no one ever dares stop him because they value their paycheck,,,, and that dumb bimbo mika is about as relevant as a broken toenail on that show. his rants can last 2 to 3 whole hours.

 Surely, you can cite Catholic institutions already buying such coverage? I’ll wait.

All this time spent arguing for,about and on behalf of the  workers right to collective bargaining  Pablo, and they have no idea what it is or how it works .  Sad really .

 Refusing to pay for contraceptives and sterilization is not discrimination.

 I hope you’re got a fire extinguisher handy while you’re torching strawmen. Safety first!

oh, and as far as this being done by far left is laughable. obama is just left of center.

there are lots of FACTS in this bill know one seems to even know or research, like 28 states already use this ruling and IT IS THE SAME MANDATE THAT IS IN ROMNEYCARE !!!

it tdoes not affect church related hires… only colleges, hospitals, etc

also there are already exemptions built into this mandate like abortion and morning after pill

AS USUAL THIS IS THE DUMBED DOWN EXTREMIST RIGHT MAKING A MOUNTAIN OUT OF A MOLEHILL ON A TOPIC THEY DO NOT KNOW THE FACTS ON

OH AND AS USUAL MITT ROMNEY S GOING AROUND LYING ABOUT THIS TOPIC AND NOT TELLING HIS ZOMBIES THAT IT IS THE SAME THING THAT IS WRITTEN INTO ROMNEYCARE !!!

Vote for Rick Santorum. He doesn’t believe in contraception, and most real Americans don’t either. The DEMONRATS want to destroy the religious beliefs of this nation.

That is real smart. Vote for president on this one issue. That makes a lot of sense. Check your facts son……………….it is not as extreme as the right is making it…..

Matthew 7:1

Most definitely a doctor providing contraception to a patient is medical care? What if a religion has something against blood transfusions, should those also be excluded from insurance coverage?

Your comments make no sense. This discussion has nothing to do with “a tax for breathing” and certainly is light-years away from “crushing seals”. You have made a break from reality.

Thanks for the non sequitur with absolutely no contribution to this discussion! Maybe you were looking for the Keillor rant down the street?

Yes, that is one of many contradictions in the Bible:

“Judge not according to the appearance, but judge
righteous judgment”  John 7:24

Catholic hospitals benefit from significant amounts of Taxpayer Funding. Give that money back and then you can deny whatever healthcare services that you deem immoral. Until then STFU.

United we stand, DIVIDED WE WILL FALL.

The Church and all parishioners are still free to do as they wish, it is the Business interests (hospitals, etc) that are affected by this mandate. A multi-culture, multi-belief workforce should not be coerced into adhering to their employers religious mandates.

If you are hired at a clinic/store/hospital/fill-the-blank you should be forced to follow your employer’s religious beliefs? That’s plain stupid.

You wanted to know what catholic institutions already provide contraception – read away.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2011/12/02/143022996/catholic-groups-fight-contraceptive-rule-but-many-already-offer-coverage

You’re already “forced to pay a tax for mandated healthcare”.  It’s called the
Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act of 1986.  It was signed by President Ronald W. Reagan (R).
http://www.ascensionhealth.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=146&Itemid=172

–Cobra

How many people voted for Obama for a single issue?

If I decide I want an arm relocated to my belly and I want a sex change does that mean my employer should be forced to provide it?   People who want something can go to the provider that provides it, not every provider should be required to provide everything.  If that happened you’d have nothing but mega hospitals because no single hospital could afford to provide every conceivable service.

Eve,
It would probably be more costly for an insurance company to deal with the costs of an unwanted pregnancy, than the virtually costless administration of birth control, so you can expect the special non birth control medical care premium to be more costly. And that special no transfusion rider, that will cost more too.

The flock could express their displeasure by not opening up their wallets and see how quickly action would be taken against those pedophile priests.

That is one hospital, run by a very progressive order of nuns.

As for the 8 states with mandates and no religious exemption, they exempt self-insurers, which most Catholic institutions are. So, we’re up to one employer. Got anything else?

No one, including the Church, is suggesting that. Reading is fundamental.

 An extremist evangelical Catholic? Is that like a Ford Chevrolet?

So you want them to stop taking Medicare and Medicaid patients? Interesting.

Sir, we are mostly talking about birth control pills, and a doctor’s advice between he and his patient on reproduction matters. The notion that a religion can interfere in that relationship, because of the free exercise clause, as if that clause gives churches carte blanc to do whatever they want, is in error. There is a whole line of cases that stand for the proposition that, for example, parents must obtain medical care for their children, even if that violates the parents religious beliefs. Religious based beatings of children? Not permitted. Or, even, if a religion believes that having multiple wives is an important religious practice, that will not be permitted since it is so upsetting to the common morals.

It would be more costly to insurers to pay for unwanted pregnancies so the premium on the “no reproductive care” rider would be more expensive.

Joe has that wrong. The Catholic church wants to slam its employees, depriving them of standard medical care, which includes reproductive care, in favor of some kind of ala carte coverage. That’s unconcienable to force employees, who may or may not be members of the same religion, to accept less than full medical coverage. The decision on whether to use contraception or not is up to the employee/patient, not the religion. Come on, where are all you libertarians.

 obozocare isn’t about healthcare. It’s about lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist CONTROL of one-sixth of the US economy, lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist WEALTH AND INCOME RE-DISTRIBUTION, lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist EXPANSION OF ABORTIONS WITH TAXPAYER MONEY, lunatic-left destruction of the Catholic Religion and every other Christian religion that opposed it’s dictates and unlimited lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist NANNY STATE COMMANDS and RULES for the American people.

In addition to being an insult to the US Constitution, obozocare is an affront to the American people. It must be removed, along with each and every lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist that supports it.

Our new president, along with the new Republican controlled House and Senate must, as their  first official act, repeal obozocare, then tear it up into a million pieces, burn the pieces, bury the ashes and cover the burial site with 1000 tons of concrete.

this is such a manufactured issue that the press is hyping up…no catholic church cares that they are being mandated to provision a birth control that goes against their religious beliefs…a majority of the people in their churches use it anyway…they are just specifically paying for it now. 

watch when nov 2012 rolls around the majority of all americans including catholics will vote for obama in droves!

Insane teabaggers ranting. The people that elected teabaggers in their states are sick that they did. Never has America been attacked by any foreign power they way teabaggers attack their own citizens. Right to work for less. Women under attack. Poor under attack. The unemployed under attack. ALL BY ‘VALUES VOTERS’.

They don’t have to take taxpayer money.

We all know how you guys feel about insurance

Headline is misleading and quotes are highly selective in order to skew this pseudo-journalism by Mr. Alvarez. I actually watched the entire program this morning and the overriding consensus from all  – including Joe Scarburough, was that this policy is in fact NOT an attack on ANY religion, merely a policy statement to bring all health insurance providers into the same level of compliance. IN other words, this is not about the church – it is about BUSINESSES owned and operated by the CHURCH which provide HEALTH INSURANCE. Don’t be fooled by the “religious” smoke screen.

Well, a man has no business telling a woman that she HAS to have a child.  I am a real AMERICAN and believe in contraception — had one child and wanted no more so I had a tubal.  I care not what your religious beliefs are — I have none and have had a full, interesting, fulfilling and wonderful life thus far.  Keep your religion to yourself.

 
 
JoethaCon:
 How far and wide can religious exemptions extend for an institution when they affect the general public??
 
Bishop’s:
Does the church coexist without a great deal of anxiety in other countries where national health plans make contraceptives available to all?

In this country, more than half the states require religious employers to cover prescription contraceptives if they cover other prescription drugs.
 Some of the Catholic institutions that would be affected by the recent ruling already cover contraceptives, and it is also notable that contraceptives are regularly prescribed for non-contraceptive purposes.
 
Romneycare (Ma.) and (Newts) Georgia are 2 of the states.
 
 GOP :  If this is an attack on religion’s> Can Islamic hospitals and mosques also abide by their 
             beliefs and teachings in this country when serving the taxpayer public ( Sharia Law)??
             How about Morman’s? any beliefs they hold dear??
   
       
           
              
           

Take your mythical religion and move to Rome.The reason catholics use contraception,they wish too be more than a stray dog or cat.

Thing is, it being ‘not okay’ with millions isn’t really all that impressive in a country of HUNDREDS of millions. The polling on this is running against Scarborough, even among Catholics – that is, as we saw yesterday when Connecticut Governor Dan Malloy was on MJ, and as we see from Colbert & a wide range of Catholics in public life & in the media, Catholics no longer march in lockstep to the tune of silly old warlocks in silly hats & dresses. They recognize this administration policy has nothing to do with ‘forcing’ anything on anyone – it simply means that if a faith-backed organization expects to receive public funding for a program, it’s going to have to adhere to the equal treatment under law standards that should apply to publicly-funded programs. There’s nothing stopping any Catholic-backed hospital or clinic from refusing to comply with public funding conditions – all they have to do is decline to accept the public funding, & with that, the terms & conditions that come with that funding.  

And let’s face facts: the simple reason this is getting such play from the wingers is the dearth of scandals from the Obama administration. Fast & Furious isn’t capturing the public’s imagination as an Obama scandal because the public knows it was inaugurated under the Bush administration, & it’s complicated. Solyandra & other green energy initiatives failing isn’t capturing the public’s imagination as an Obama scandal partly for the same reason, that it started up under the Bush administration, but also because the public realizes it’s less about ‘crony capitalism’ than it is about the risks inherent in vencaps, & that green energy is not just a necessary component in meeting the nation’s energy needs, it promises to bring with it long term benefits. The Keystone XL thing is failing as an sort of scandal for much the same reason.  

The wingers miss Monicagate. Life was so much sweeter for them then, when it all came down to a young woman in a stained blue dress giving the Democratic president a b.j.

“fined”  

What nonsense. They don’t get “fined”, they simply become ineligible for public funding support.

I bet you believe in the easter bunny andt santa claus.Real americans don’t want to breed like stray dogs or cats.

Pablo, you asked for this info:
Health
Many Catholic Universities, Hospitals Already Cover Contraception In Their Health Insurance Plans
By Igor Volsky posted from ThinkProgress Health on Feb 7, 2012 at 10:10 am
Catholic leaders and the GOP presidential candidates have intentionally distorted the Obama administration’s new rule requiring employers and insurers to provide reproductive health benefits at no additional cost sharing. Conservatives are seeking a way to politically unite Republican voters around a social issue and portray the regulation as a big government intrusion into religious liberties. In reality, the mandate is modeled on existing rules in six states, exempts houses of worship and other religious nonprofits that primarily employ and serve people of faith, and offers employers a transitional period of one year to determine how best to comply with the rule. It’s also nothing new. Twenty-eight states already require organizations that offer prescription insurance to cover contraception and since 98 percent of Catholic women use birth control, many Catholic institutions offer the benefit to their employees. For instance, a Georgetown University spokesperson told ThinkProgress yesterday that employees “have access to health insurance plans offered and designed by national providers to a national pool. These plans include coverage for birth control.”Similarly, an informal survey conducted by Our Sunday Visitor found that many Catholic colleges have purchased insurance plans that provide contraception benefits: University of Scranton, for example, appears to specifically cover contraception. The University of San Francisco offers employees two health plans, both of which cover abortion, contraception and sterilization…Also problematic is the Jesuit University of Scranton. One of its health insurance plans, the First Priority HMO, lists a benefit of “contraceptives when used for the purpose of birth control.”
DePaul University in Chicago covers birth control in both its fully insured HMO plan and its self-insured PPO plan and excludes “elective abortion,” said spokesman John Holden, adding that the 1,800 employee-university responded to a complaint from the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission several years ago and added artificial contraception as a benefit to its Blue Cross PPO.
Christian Brothers University in Memphis, Tenn., offers employee health insurance via the Tennessee Independent Colleges and Universities Association, a consortium of Christian Bible and other private college and universities. Its plan excludes abortion, but probably covers artificial contraception as a prescription drug, said C. Gregg Conroy, the executive director of the TICUA Benefit Consortium.Boston College, the six former Caritas Christi Catholic hospitals in Massachusetts, and other Catholic organizations that are located in one of the 28 states that already require employers to provide contraception benefits could have self-insured or stopped offering prescription drug coverage to avoid the mandate — but didn’t do so. Instead, they — like many Catholic hospitals and health care insurers around the country — chose to meet the needs of the overwhelming majority of Catholic women and offer these much needed services.

Just rat-wing, evangelical Joe.  “Walking in the footsteps of The Master.”   Speaking from the manger – along with Jerry Falwell & Pat Robertson.  Praise Geesussah!

2012 GOP Re-election Theme Song…brought to you by Monty Python:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8

–Cobra

K, i know this has probably been said, but apparently it needs to be repeated:  religious institutions that primarily employ their own are exempt.  However, if you are a business only affiliated with a religious institution, you are not exempt.

Meaning:  Im a doctor employed by St. Francis Hospital.  I am not Catholic.  Therefore,  the insurance provider is obligated to include contraceptives (which they probably already do) at no cost to me.   Therefore, my religious beliefs and my rights are upheld. 

 (The church is not a person!  A church has no right to force their ideology and medical beliefs on a person not of their faith (or anyone for that matter).  It has no rights over me in a secular workplace that provides employment and/or care to people of other faiths and beliefs)

I don’t want them to deny any services to anyone, but that’s just my opinion. You missed my point.  If they accept taxpayers dollars from people who do not share their beliefs on contraception, then they should not be able to deny those services, or they can give back the taxpayers dollars. It’s a fairly simple concept, sorry you were so confused.

With or without paid coverage, the use of contraception will continue to be mainstream.The Catholic Church and their Affliates just need to admit that 98% of women, including Catholic women, use birth control.

And, here’s a little bit of education for those men out there who are control freaks and think they should be able to tell women what to do with their bodies – “women use birth control pills for their complexion. ” Yep – zits are caused by a hormone problem and taking birth control pills will clear up the problem

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In the past, women were denied payment of their contraceptives, but yet men could get viagra paid for by their insurance.  This was not right, but some Catholic priests thought it was proper.  Newt Gingrich began stirring the piss pot although not being asked by the MSM about his particular use of contraceptives since he screwed Callista for 6 years while married to Marianne and in some cases, in Marianne’s own bed. 

The insurance afforded to people include many things they will never use or they choose not to use.  the fact that contraceptives and even vasectomies are  available for their use but they deem them not in compliance with their faith is a decision they have to make.  And it doesn’t matter if they are an employee of the state or a Catholic associated business like a hospital.

I’m disgusted with the republicans for even discussing this.  If the Catholic Church is going to be in other businesses than providing religious educaiton to people, then they have to follow the laws any employer is expected to follow.

We want them to give back the community hospitals they took over, doubled the cost of services and screwed all the patients.

“most real Americans don’t believe in contraception”???????  98% of Catholic women use birth control.

The Catholic doctrine wouldn’t approve of your “tubal”.   I agree with you about religion which is about as real as Santa Claus and the Easter bunny.  It’s not whether you attend church and follow the religion faithfully, but how you live your life by giving of your time , help, and friendship to others.

They are now attacking the use of contraceptives.

I’ve watched Mika lately and think they need to replace her.  She doesn’t know how to stand up to Joe and debate the issues.

Now that you brought up the Muslim subject, what if the people of Muslim faith began saying  ‘hey, it is our religion and we should be able to beat or kill our wives if we want to”?

They want women having children so they have more to fondle.

No one is forcing these Catholics to participate by buying contraceptives.  So, they can adhere to their beliefs by not buying contraceptives and those employees of the affliates can adhere to their beliefs by buying contraceptives.  See – that is a win-win solution.

Since the money which is actually being paid for the insurance comes from the employees themselves OR by the paying patients in the hospitals, seems to me that the Catholic church or affliate isn’t really paying for this insurance at all.

YES PABLO.  That is exactly what they are saying.

So, you are saying that 98% of the Catholic women of childbearing age who are taking contraceptives shouldn’t be allowed to take communion?

Better not expect very many for the next communion offering.

But this isn’t about the Catholic Church.  This is about the fact that the Catholic Church has developed businesses like hospitals and don’t want to accept the same laws for those businesses that others have to adhere to.

I don’t think Roland Martin’s were about “Gay violence” but about SOCCER

The CHURCH is exempt just as the president promised.  But if the CHURCH is going to go into other businesses, then it has to abide by the laws and rules regarding those other businesses just like other institutions have to. 

In reality, it is because they have presidential candidates who have “all of the above” problems and they are digging for something to attack the president with.

But they don’t have to pay for it unless they USE THE SERVICES.
Are you really that stupid?

The catholic church harbors sewer slime called priests. Why would anyone want to know anything more about them?

Pure of heart, & catholic, together, is a joke.

Why would you care about catholic beliefs being violated, when catholic priests didn’t & still don’t care about violating young boys? Seriously, why would any decent person want anything to do with such a freak filled religion/church?

The only reason Obama is just left of center is that the center has moved way over to the right. Eisenhauer would be a flaming liberal in today’s world.  Research the 1955 Republican Party Platform and see what the Republicans wanted back then. It sounds like something Dennis Kucinch would have written. 

Just say it plainly for what it is.

  Right winged conservatives, Republicans and religious zealots are trying to impose a SEX TAX of $800-$1200 a year on single women and married couples.

 That should be the next political ad on the Internets.

–Cobra

The ‘Loud One’ who must be heard.   That’s right Joe, scream over everyone so that Mika can’t make her point.   Anytime you don’t have a woman making the point, then it’s all about the ‘Old Boys Club’ who want to rule the world and not come of age.

Rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights are inalienable (cannot be given or taken) and apply to the individual, not to organizations or corporations. Freedom of religion is an individual’s right, not a right for a religious organization. About all any organization can hope for in this society is the privilege of powers granted… but that is in no way, shape, or form an inalienable right.
So, if you want to be an American, then you side with the Bill of Rights… it’s the “American Code” and it trumps any code no matter how old.
If you can’t come at it from that perspective, then you should find yourself another country to be part of.