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Joe Scarborough To Obama Critics: He’s Either Stalin Or Jimmy Carter, He Can’t Be Both

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In a recent piece for Washington Post, columnist Ezra Klein referred to President Obama as a “moderate president in an immoderate time.” In contrast with conservatives (and some liberals) who think Obama is too ideologically rigid, many like Klein believe he has been one of the most moderate presidents of our era. David Gregory discussed this with the panel on Meet the Press, and whether it’s the president or his rivals who are more ideologically stubborn.

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Bill Burton, former White House Deputy Press Secretary and co-founder of the pro-Obama Super PAC Priorities USA Action, argued that Obama has a strong ability to bring people together and force his opponents to look like the ones outside the mainstream. Joe Scarborough totally disagreed, referring to Andrew Sullivan‘s controversial Newsweek column about Obama’s long game against his enemies, but he did acknowledge that the criticism of Obama is completely contradictory.

“You can’t have it both ways. Barack Obama can’t be Joseph Stalin and Jimmy Carter at the same time. Pick your poison. Is he an incompetent moderate, according to the right, or is he a dangerous ideologue?”

Scarborough predicted he’ll be compromising with the Republicans throughout the rest of the year, and if he wins reelection, for the following four. Burton, meanwhile, defended running a Super PAC for Democrats when the party has generally taken a stance in favor of stronger campaign finance reform and against Super PACs. Burton repeated the familiar line that the Democrats really, totally want these things, but they refuse to play by a completely different set of rules than the Republicans do.

RELATED: Debbie Wasserman Schultz Defends Obama SuperPAC Stance: ‘The Rules As They Exist Now Are The Rules We Will Play By’

Noonan argued that Obama was more extreme than moderate because of his administration’s rigidity on the birth control mandate (though they have since drawn it back to a compromise). E.J. Dionne agreed the mandate wasn’t the smartest idea, but thought it “absurd” that Obama could be framed as an extremist or a socialist.

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  • Anonymous

    In the same way that he sat in Reverend Wright’s church every week — but he’s a Muslim. 

    HIs enemies aren’t too good with logic puzzles.

  • http://twitter.com/EKoh_PA Ed K

    Noonan thinks the contraception mandate is extreme when 61% of the public approve of it, according to a FOX poll?
    Guess the American people are extremists to the right, bishops (not parishoners) and the tight.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Thomas/100003357377085 Emma Thomas

    Remember, what the public want is not what politics is about. If it were, the US would have had public option in health decades ago.

  • Anonymous

    Or neither.

  • http://www.proactivepolitics.blogspot.com/ Norbit Peters

    Call it what you will Joe, he’s attempting to bastardize the Constitution and impose a central government dictatorship over our freedoms.
    It’s what this country fought a Revolutionary War over – except it was King George then, it’s King Obama now!

  • http://www.proactivepolitics.blogspot.com/ Norbit Peters

     Obama has told us lots of things – most of them disingenuous, misleading, deceptive or outright lies.

    Furthermore, I don’t see any incongruity with Rev. Wright’s Black Separatist “Church” and the President’s Marxist (not Muslim) affinity in that they are both spawned from the same anachronistic, caste-system mentality.

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    Joe, it just proves Republicans have no clue on what they’re talking about!!

  • Anonymous

    This coming from the same people who said that Bush wasn’t smart enough to form a sentence……yet he was able to fool congress to going to war on “lies”.  

    Sooooooo, tell me again about those logic puzzles.  

  • clever

    Scarborough is a dickand acunt so why can’t the Messiah be both.

  • Anonymous

    If Joe was a conservative he wouldn’t be so confused!!

  • Anonymous

    We can hardly contain our glee, but must keep up the public face.

    We appreciate the coded hate speech against the other side, the divisive, black and white thinking, the demonizing of others…. it is the nutrition that feeds us. It keeps our coffers full of campaign donations from all the people whipped into fear of the extremist religious right or the emerging communist state.

    Only one additional thing we would ask… please keep your eyes out for any independent thinking, and ridicule it wherever you can. We can’t have that, it threatens our two party system.

    Carry on,

    Sincerely,

    The Democrats and Republicans

  • Anonymous

    Maybe he’s Jimmy Stalin, Joseph’s younger brother who ruled soviet georgia with an aluminum fist. ;-)

  • Anonymous

    That’s not what I ever said.

    I’ve always maintained that Bush didn’t “lie,” per se, but rather chose to believe the cherry-picked intelligence that made the case for the war. He, unfortunately, wasn’t bright enough to ask the right questions.

  • Anonymous

    You’re so right.

    How dare he try to tell me who I may and may not marry, or what I may or may not do when I become pregnant, or….oh wait.  Never mind.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3EV7LMBN3SWQMEVDJCAKUCTCKM Top

    To the wingnutz, President Obama is EVERYTHING they don’t understand and Romney themselves in fear.

    Because President Obama “doesn’t love ‘murka” the way wingnutz do.

  • http://www.proactivepolitics.blogspot.com/ Norbit Peters

     Marry? Pregnant?

    I’m talking about control over your basic necessities – health, energy, credit, right-to-work, and the like.

    There’s plenty of populist anger to draw upon in exposing the threat Obama poses to our freedoms, but none better than the gift he just gave us – the Democrats WAR ON RELIGION!
    With this, there’s now a real possibility of banishing the entire Democratic Party from power for the next decade.
    I know, serendipity!

    This War On Religion has left an indelible fear and distrust toward the man in the White House, and it will unfurl in all it’s rage at the polls 11-06-12!

  • Pablo

    He can’t be Stalin because he’s inept. That’s what makes him Carter. But he’d like to be Stalin, if only those mean old founders hadn’t “designed a system that makes it so hard to bring about the change” he’d like sometimes.

  • Pablo

    He wants to fundamentally transform it. You don’t do that to things you love. Then, what you love is your vision of what you can create.

    You might love ‘murka. I love America. See the difference?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3EV7LMBN3SWQMEVDJCAKUCTCKM Top

     I guess I have to spell it for wingnutz like you, Pebbels.

    From morons like the Baboon to pRick Parry, and many others in between, have regurgitated the same line “President Obama does NOT love America. We wingnutz do.!”

    Wingnuz LOVE to wrap themselves in the flag and the Constipation.

    Conveniently forgetting the Constipation ain’t gospel. But them retrograds wish.

  • Anonymous

    “In the same way that Obama supposedly sat in Reverend Wright’s church every week — but he’s a Muslim.  ”

    It’s the same way that Obama is a golf-happy vacationing do-nothing but is also working full-time to destroy the constitution.

  • Anonymous

    You love paranoia.

  • http://www.madcharles.com/ MadCharles

    Obama’s just a hasbro Joe, as you are

  • Anonymous

    Awesome! Keep using creative wordsmithing to pit one side against the other…. it’s exactly what we want. Hopefully, someone will reply with equally caustic and meaningless babble about the other side. Keeps the cycle going!

    Sincerely, 

    The Republicans and Democrats

  • OSTL

     thanks patsy! gnopiggggsssss!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    You have no idea what a WAR on religion looks like.  Do some research. Start with Kristolnacht, Germany 1938.  That was WAR.

    This is a pimple.

  • Anonymous

    You misspelled “Constitution”. I know it’s a tough one, but they’ll cover words like this when you hit the fourth grade.

  • Pablo

     You can’t spell, nitwit. Just relax.

  • Pablo

    You mean Destroyer?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRpAANsoG8I

    Definitely.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3EV7LMBN3SWQMEVDJCAKUCTCKM Top

     Jeffy,

    I am talking to Pebbels.

    Go back to milk your horse.

  • Anonymous

    I obviously have no way of knowing what YOU specifically said, however, my point is that both was said about Bush.  He’s an idiot….yet he managed to fool  the geniuses like John Kerry and Hillary Clinton to name a few.  

    Did or did that not happen?  If you are honest you will admit that it did.  So I will ask you again about those logic puzzles. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3EV7LMBN3SWQMEVDJCAKUCTCKM Top

     Lemme see…

    Clownstipation…

    “OLIGARH”… sumthin

    Moran

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3EV7LMBN3SWQMEVDJCAKUCTCKM Top

     Pebbels.

    I almost forgot how Pebbels loves 999.

  • Anonymous

    I mean acute schizo noid blues

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPMYkITzxn0

  • Verreauxii

    You seriously can’t be that dumb, Pablo. I do not really know you to make incendiary hyperbolic remarks such as these. I can accept them when they are made by the idiot crowd such as Norbit. Really, you think Obama would like to kill millions of Americans? You do know that’s what Stalin did to his citizens right? I would never say that of any American potus. It just reveals your character.

  • Pablo

     What are you drinking, Skippy? Drano?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3EV7LMBN3SWQMEVDJCAKUCTCKM Top

    You are trying to engage Pebbels in a rational conversation.

    It ain’t gonna happen.

    Bebbels actually showed his birfher steak when he broke down.

    NOT pretty.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3EV7LMBN3SWQMEVDJCAKUCTCKM Top

     Pebbels, 

    Change your pic to the 999 loser you supported.

    Oh wait… you won’t because you can’t find your peas.

  • Hout Bosques

    I don’t understand, No Bits. This is a Global Warming winter – surely you’re still able to do lawn care now that they’ve let you home from the ‘home’. 

  • Anonymous

    your just mad bush couldn’t do two things at once.

  • Anonymous

    Obama is more Jimmuh Carter, but his handler, Valerie Jarrett, is Stalin.

    Aside from the First Amendment problems with the Obamacare mandates, I would hope that someone will sue HHS under the equal protection clause.

    If HHS is mandating FREE contraceptives, sterilization, etc.under the false narrative of “access to ‘women’s healthcare’”, then they MUST mandate FREE condoms, vasectomies, and, possibly, circumcisions and Viagra to provide for “men’s healthcare.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TWK2YYJTTIDLZIVV7NKZM23Z6Q Tyler

    Virgina will be key.. If we can win VA we can take back the White House and the Senate. But we can’t reveal our economic package too soon or it will cost us in the swing states.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6NVQXKGM4GSM6RZ7ZW3BQ2D73I Kim

    My friend just met a chocolate man on Blackwhitemeet.COMit’s where for men and women looking for interracial’ship for a fabulous lifestyle
    It’s a nice place for black white sing’les, to interact with each other…no bounds or extremes in front of true love.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6NVQXKGM4GSM6RZ7ZW3BQ2D73I Kim

    My friend just met a chocolate man on Blackwhitemeet.COMit’s where for men and women looking for interracial’ship for a fabulous lifestyle
    It’s a nice place for black white sing’les, to interact with each other…no bounds or extremes in front of true love.

  • Anonymous

    Obama’s media sycophants are “worried” about Obama’s critics. I’m shocked, SHOCKED!

  • Pablo

    Almost as much as you love trillion plus dollar deficits as far as the eye can see.

  • Pablo

    Hey, people who do as they’re told would have nothing to worry about.

  • Anonymous

    This is why the Republicans will lose this election.

    They can’t figure out how to go after him.   One moment he’s a maniacal dictator, the next moment he’s a weak-kneed Jimmy Carter who caves on everything.

    The reality is that Obama has succeeded in getting the GOP to twist themselves into knots trying to attack him.

    They’ve taken one contradictory position after another just so they can be “against” him on everything. 

    It’s just a matter of time until Obama starts laying those cards on the table and exposes the Republicans for the desperate, paranoid, adrift, and visionless party that they are.

  • huffnnoccupyn

     Thus sayeth the Roman Catholic church for centuries.

  • huffnnoccupyn

    Credit is a basic need?

    Wow. If that’s true, we need a serious reboot. If we need to borrow money to satisfy basic necessities, then it’s time to do what desperate people have done in ages past. Reboot.

  • Anonymous

    Liberals can’t seem to  grasp a person labeled a socialist  (assuming for sake of argument the person in fact is) can’t possibly be a socialist if they do 5 or 6 things that are more capitalist than socialist.  It boggles the minds of many, but if a person saves the life of 999 people but kills 1 that person is still a murderer.  You can argue they can’t have it both ways, but the world isn’t black and white – they certainly can have it both ways if the preponderance of the evidence or overwhelming evidence demonstrates their opinion is likely correct.    Whine all you want, but those who cherry pick Obama’s decisions to call him a socialist may be just as right as those who cherry pick his decisions to call him a capitalist.  He is what he is.  I don’t choose to label him, except to say I think in some ways he is very much like Jimmy Carter, but in my view only in the obstinate and historical sense.  I see him as very far left based on his record prior to becoming President as well as his record as President.  I also think he can be far left and a capitalist at the same time.  I don’t think its a coincidence we only hear him compared to Stalin by a DNC spokesperson (Scarborough). 

  • Anonymous

    So what’s your example of “Obama the socialist”, then?   

    Because, if you say “healthcare”, then you ought to get busy explaining why more than 20+ Republican Senators co-sponsored a healthcare plan just like Obama’s in 1993….and why Mitt Romney actually enacted it in Mass.

    Can you name a single position of his that makes him a “socialist” that some Republicans haven’t also supported at some point in time?

    Let’s look at some of the major issues that Republicans like to attack Obama for:

    -Cap and Trade
    -Bank bailout
    -Immigration Reform
    -Healthcare reform (w/mandate)
    -Allowing firearms in national parks
    -Extending Bush Tax cuts

    ALL are issues where Obama has taken positions that were previously advocated by Republicans.

    Sure, he may be to the left of where most present-day Republicans are….but he’s no radical by any stretch.

    He’s practically a right-winger compared to some of the real socialists in Europe.  He’s closer to Cameron and Merkel (the European Right) than he is to any socialist politicians over there.

  • Anonymous

    So what’s your example of “Obama the socialist”, then?   

    Because, if you say “healthcare”, then you ought to get busy explaining why more than 20+ Republican Senators co-sponsored a healthcare plan just like Obama’s in 1993….and why Mitt Romney actually enacted it in Mass.

    Can you name a single position of his that makes him a “socialist” that some Republicans haven’t also supported at some point in time?

    Let’s look at some of the major issues that Republicans like to attack Obama for:

    -Cap and Trade 
    -Bank bailout
    -Immigration Reform 
    -Healthcare reform (w/mandate)
    -Allowing firearms in national parks 
    -Extending Bush Tax cuts

    ALL are issues where Obama has taken positions that were previously advocated by Republicans.

    Sure, he may be to the left of where most present-day Republicans are….but he’s no radical by any stretch.

    He’s basically on par with any center-left Democrat. Hillary Clinton and John Edwards held many of these positions too…but they weren’t being called socialists..

    He’s practically a right-winger compared to some of the real socialists in Europe.  He’s closer to Cameron and Merkel (the European Right) than he is to any socialist politicians over there.

  • expatpatriot

    In terms of the preposterousness of how he’s been labeled, I’d agree with you completely. But I’d also like to hear what you think he’s done — while in the White House, not previously — that would qualify as “more socialist than capitalist.”

    And that question is predicated on an accurate definition of socialism (the State owning the means of production) and not the one that rightwingers seem to have in their heads (the State increasing the delivery of social welfare programs).

    And keeping in mind that taxes, even though they result in a “redistribution of wealth” that seems to set CPACers and their compadres in a tizzy, are not actually unique to socialism, but something every government in history has relied upon.

    Because from my point of view, Obama is basically a moderate Republican, and has consistently attempted to govern that way. Not that he’s been given a chance by the zealots who have taken over the Republican party in the last few decades.

  • Pablo

    No, the Catholic Church believes in free will.

  • expatpatriot

    That is, don’t tell the electorate how the Republicans plan to shove the broken bottle further up the country’s butt until after the votes are counted.

    Tactically, probably a good idea.

  • Anonymous

    OK, so Obama  is a dickand acunt. And those other 2 things.

  • expatpatriot

    I didn’t detect any “worry” and nor did I detect any point to your post. You’re 0 for 2.

  • expatpatriot

    You mean like eat pretzels and breathe?

  • expatpatriot

    So Carter would have been Stalin if he’d had a bit more steel in his spine?

    One of the sad things about paranoia is that it’s really hard to see what’s actually going on around you through the hallucinations. My sympathy.

  • expatpatriot

    Most of those are already available from most health plans. I’m sorry, but the bus to reality left this stop about 20 years ago.

    There’ll be another one along soon.Just be sure you have exact change.

  • expatpatriot

    Pablo does little else here but make dumb, incendiary, hyperbolic remarks.

    Damp squibs, most of them, but he gives it his best.

  • AIiveStiIIKickin

    Obama can indeed be both Carter and Stalin….Just not at the same time.
    It’s called a “well oiled weather vane”
    Mitt Romney does the same thing all the time only we call it “flip-flopping”

  • expatpatriot

    And how, pray tell, does Obama want to fundamentally transform America?

    Outside of fixing our healthcare funding system, which is bankrupting the country and blighting millions of lives? (I’m OK with fundamental transformation there).

  • expatpatriot

    I don’t think I’d call what he’s doing to that horse “milking.”

  • expatpatriot

    I’m going to be sorry I asked this, but in what way is Obama attempting to “bastardize the Constitution and impose a central government dictatorship over our freedoms?”

    Because I see crap like that spewed out here every day and none of you wingers seems able to make a case that anything like that is actually happening.

    Keep in mind that “being pissed off all the time” is not synonymous with “suffering under a dictatorship.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y6XN52VKWPNTDCIL4V6PXYVTZE John Ross

    Everyone knows W wasn’t the sharpest tool in the shed…he even acknowledged that himself “I was a C student”. He was only the puppet of Lucifer Cheney who pulled the strings.

  • expatpatriot

    I understand why righties are frantically trying to restart the culture wars you’ve been losing for years — because otherwise, come November, you’ve got nothing.

    But the culture war’s a dog that won’t hunt. By all means go ahead and marginalize yourselves even further by dredging up this bilge. We’re happy to see you driving votes into the Dem column.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y6XN52VKWPNTDCIL4V6PXYVTZE John Ross

    That’s the Sharron Angle “I’ll answer your questions after I’m elected” approach to running for office. Worked real well for her!

  • expatpatriot

    The term she was looking for was “extremely reasonable.”

    This is, of couse, anathema to the wingnutariat.

  • huffnnoccupyn

    Good to know that God has no plans for the Catholics.

  • Anonymous

    Actually Cameron and Merkel are still to the left of him on most issues and they are the right wing in europe lol. Very few countries have right wingers like ours do:)

  • expatpatriot

    Congress’ rolling over so war criminal Bush’s could have his elective war was a low point in American history. Plenty of blame to go around on that one.

    Keep in mind, however, that Congress did not authorize war whenever Bush bloody well felt like it: he was supposed to conduct as series of sanction-related actions short of war — such as weapons inspections. Instead, Bush disregarded those conditions and invaded anyway. This despite the fact that the weapons inspectors had been telling him for weeks that the WMD stories were nonsense.

    Congress gave Bush the keys to the car; he and his buddies drove it into the ditch. To be fair to Congress, however, all along they had been drip-fed cherry-picked intelligence that painted an inaccurate picture of the situation in Iraq.

    Smooth out the nuances a bit, and the statement still stands: Bush lied us into an unecessary, disastrous, wicked war for which we will be paying — one way or another — for generations.

  • expatpatriot

    I see wingnuts still love lapping up that particular vomit. Mmm-mmm, good!

  • Anonymous

    David your Meet The Press ratings are going to end up in the toilet just like The Joe Blowhard show in the morning on BSnbc. Having this big mouth know it all on your show 2 weeks in a row? David there are two (2) reasons why Joe’s idiotic clown show in the mornings does so poorly…it is because nobody can stand Mr. Full of Hot Air, Joey Scarborough. The guy actually thinks he knows it all and nobody else on the planet has a clue…well he is just like ‘The Donald’ Frump, except Joe has no money.

    C’mon David, have people of quality on like Tim Russert did. Now that was a show. Tim was the best ever on any network. He coul;d get to the truth everytime and the guest would go away feeling like he had just won the Lottery. Everyone at BSnbc/nbc could learn a whole lot just from watching Meet The Press archives.

    Please, no more Joe Schmo. The guy is a certifided dunderhead.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bart-Morgay/100001554351938 Bart Morgay

    That Noonan woman has completely lost her mind. How can you be that out of touch without being a Palin?

  • Anonymous

    Joe schmo bowling ball head cant figure out if he is left or right, depends which way the wind is blowing!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_45S32GWGDRUJIL6E2U4HOZW4BM Bob

    Every now and then Joe Scabby gets one right.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_45S32GWGDRUJIL6E2U4HOZW4BM Bob

    why do you hate America so much?

  • Anonymous

    What? Marxists want caste systems? As in, different levels of society based on things like economic and political power? Man, this communism stuff is much more confusing then I thought, seeing as how they want all equality…while at the same time no equality.

    Anyway, to further the point, Obama is both:

    - a radical atheist and a radical muslin
    -a radical christian (thanks to Rev. Wright) and radical muslin
    -a radical christian and a radical atheist
    -some combination of all three
    -an evil wealth redistributing socialist and super buddy-buddy with wall street (cause you know those wall street guys love socialists!)
    -is both hitler and neville chamberlain
    -hates white people even though his mom was white
    -wants to raise everyone’s taxes, even though he’s currently the biggest tax cutter in history

    You know, when it’s so easy to see how one can’t have so many contradictory views at the same time, one would think it’d be much easier to then realize that you shouldn’t watch fox news and open a flippin college text book.

  • Anonymous

    Obama is in Romney territory in moderation. So in Nov to independents it comes down to a choice between divided government and an all republican government

    Under normal circumstances divided has been independents preference but in Obama’s case ‘divided’ has taken on an all new meaning where treason and intentional damage to country has become congress’ favorite sport, one that’s accepted & in fact encouraged by rightist voters

  • Anonymous

    So we’ll see if independents vote Obama out & reward treason in the name of pragmatism, which they normally would, or does Obama continue hitting his recent theme of going it alone with or without congress & prove in the coming months that he can deliver ‘results’ with that approach.

    With all due respect to Andrew Sullivan, after 3+ years, time has run out for political chess and ‘trapping’ one’s opponents in undesirable positions and all that which would be acceptable had Obama not been given a chance to govern.. Only thing people want to see at this stage is results

  • Pablo

    If only you knew what a non-sequitur is.

  • Anonymous

    Apparently, according to Franks-Dodds, credit was a basic need to put freeloaders, tax-cheats, scumbags and never-do-wells into homes they could not afford.

    Reboot!!

  • Anonymous

    The sad thing is you actually believe the crap that is in your own head. Poor “conservative” scum bags are going to be in for a long 2nd Obama term.

  • Anonymous

    It’s a requirement to be considered a “conservative” scum bag these days.

  • huffnnoccupyn

    Cut wages and raised prices since 1980.

    Reboot!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Crittenden/100000916171322 Eric Crittenden

    “…going to war on ‘lies’” does not take ‘smarts’. In fact, the stupider you are, the more gullible you are and the more likely you are to believe those ‘lies’.

    On behalf of the left, I still contend that Bush WAS stupid and because of that very stupidity he believed everything he was TOLD by his handlers… Cheney (“We’ll be greeted as liberators.”), Rumsfeld (“I doubt the war in Iraq will last more than a few months.”) and Rove (“the money from the oil revenues will pay for the war.”). BTW, the one person who cautioned him NOT to invade Iraq was the only person to actually fight in combat… Gen. Colin Powell, whom he ignored for some reason. Stupidity?

    Soooooo, logic puzzle solved!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Crittenden/100000916171322 Eric Crittenden

    You do know that Dodd-Franks was signed into law in 2010?

    Since the majority of the bad mortgages written that led to the mortgage crisis happened from 2003-2007, the housing bubble burst in 2006 and TARP was signed in 2008 by GWB, how does Dodd-Franks signed in 2010 have ANYTHING to do with it? I think you are getting your republican talking points mixed up.

    The people in charge of putting “freeloaders, tax-cheats, scumbags and never-do-wells into homes they could not afford” were REPUBLICANS. They controlled the Executive, Judicial and Legislative branches from 2000-2006 when 90% of the fraud happened and this fraud came to light AFTER the Democrats took over the House/Reps. in 2007.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=536928526 Vicki Perlman

    Seriously? Are you saying that WOMEN use birth control but MEN get no benefit from it? That’s too hysterical to contemplate.
    PS Condoms are birth control. Do your homework.
    As far as the vasectomies and Viagra goes, I have no problem with your recommendation. They certainly should be free. If you want a circumcision, then you should get one, for free, also.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=536928526 Vicki Perlman

    As opposed to GW who had more vacations than the last like 5 presidents combined, right?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=536928526 Vicki Perlman

    Plus, don’t forget, they don’t actually have a candidate. Its hard to win when no one is excited about your guy/gal.
    Romney will never be conservative enough for them. Santorum…well, ya know. Never happen

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