There is NO successful direction on CNN. Why do you keep trying to prop them UP?
There are a left-wing network that is harmful to the USA abroad.

King’s ratings started low and have been steadily declining all year.

Steve, how do they compare to Lou Dobbs’ ratings? King is a pretty solid news guy, but I guess that doesn’t pull the viewers in.

Notice in the clip that Beck and Hannity are offering opinions and Schultz and Olbermann are namecalling in as nasty a way as they can get away with ?

Damn, King brought the thunder! Within the context of those sound bites. Overall, Olbermann and Maddow do level much stronger and objective journalism – they just wear their beliefs clearly on their sleeve, offer their opinion, but always back it up with actual facts. Fox News straight up lies and distorts facts. There is a big difference.

Also, regarding the comments of his guests: ratings does not equal integrity or quality, and yes, Obama clearly made those statements to energize his base.

That May 1st clip from Obama that John King slipped in was really the killer.
In May, Obama “encouraged” Americans to seek alternative view points. Today, he finds Fox News to be destructive while MSNBC is doing a great service to Americans (*giggle*).

Shawn Soya said:
That May 1st clip from Obama that John King slipped in was really the killer.
In May, Obama “encouraged” Americans to seek alternative view points. Today, he finds Fox News to be destructive while MSNBC is doing a great service to Americans (*giggle*).

It’s campaign mode, baby. And it’s going to work. If the Democrats can energize their base and this time get even more of the younger demographics out, as well as more Hispanics and Blacks, they’ll hold on to at least one half of Congress.

The man can speak and inspire – expect a lot more of this and soon.

I wouldnt lift finger to help Obama. When the Obama administration worked to collude with BP to bury the Gulf spill, squandering a historic opportunity to reverse the anti-green tide, it was a moment of truth for environmentalists. Now, it is dawning on some Americans that Bush wasn’t an aberration and that a Democratic administration will also treat fundamental rights as a mere nuisance.

Some_Dude said:
Damn, King brought the thunder! Within the context of those sound bites. Overall, Olbermann and Maddow do level much stronger and objective journalism – they just wear their beliefs clearly on their sleeve, offer their opinion, but always back it up with actual facts. Fox News straight up lies and distorts facts. There is a big difference. Also, regarding the comments of his guests: ratings does not equal integrity or quality, and yes, Obama clearly made those statements to energize his base.

HA HA HA!!! Keith Olbermann is one of the biggest liars on cable.

Obama’s extraordinary claim he has the power to order the assassination of any American, anytime, and anywhere puts him on a par with King George III, Ivan the Terrible, and other tyrants throughout history that held the power of life and death over their subjects.
Obama has set himself above the Constitution, as an American Barrack The Terrible, with the power to detain us indefinitely, torture us, and assassinate us at his will. Obama is not unlike Bush, actually because he ran as the cure to this domestic desease he is far worse: he is a tyrant and a threat to the American people.

“It would do a smart move for King to try to establish himself as an objective observer in this battle”

Maybe it would be a smart move for MSNBC to try to be an objective cable news station. It might actually help ratings.

Maybe it would be a smart move for Pres Obama to read the American Constitution, esp. the First Amendment regarding freedom of the press and speech.

Pablo said:
Steve, how do they compare to Lou Dobbs’ ratings? King is a pretty solid news guy, but I guess that doesn’t pull the viewers in.

As is often the case, you do catch the essence of the matter, Pablo. King’s election analysis in 2007/2008 was remarkably good. Solid information, strong analysis, good presentation. He and Chuck Todd buried Toes Morris. But, I think King was Peter-principled into a position for which he is ill-suited. I find his show listless.

Whoa Whoa Whoa ‘don’t be talking about’ MSNBC like that….

dcmediasux said:
I wouldnt lift finger to help Obama. When the Obama administration worked to collude with BP to bury the Gulf spill, squandering a historic opportunity to reverse the anti-green tide, it was a moment of truth for environmentalists. Now, it is dawning on some Americans that Bush wasn’t an aberration and that a Democratic administration will also treat fundamental rights as a mere nuisance.

I’m not always with you, but I think your points here are very well taken.

Some_Dude said:
Damn, King brought the thunder! Within the context of those sound bites. Overall, Olbermann and Maddow do level much stronger and objective journalism – they just wear their beliefs clearly on their sleeve, offer their opinion, but always back it up with actual facts. Fox News straight up lies and distorts facts. There is a big difference. Also, regarding the comments of his guests: ratings does not equal integrity or quality, and yes, Obama clearly made those statements to energize his base.

Indeed!

Like after Scott Brown’s election, when Olbermann called him a racist, sexist homophobe. Keith always sticks with the facts, and leaves any hint of personal bias out of it.

Great to see this in the media.

I’ve had heated arguments with someone in my family over whether or not Obama was a partisan. (I know, right?)

I just don’t get this idea that we have to be “bipartisan.” There are issues that people disagree about and it’s the airing out of those issues in public debate that let’s people decide which is best. I don’t begrudge someone having their own opinions, even if I think they’re wrong. But to act as though only one side is partisan is a level of idiocy or dishonesty that’s really unbecoming, especially for a President who’s supposed to be so smart.

He made an excellent point. The more I read the more I’m led to believe that the game of politics just screws up your judgment. When it becomes all based on what is politically expedient rather than what is the right thing to do, we get this kind of ridiculous dichotomy.

Some_Dude said:
Damn, King brought the thunder! Within the context of those sound bites. Overall, Olbermann and Maddow do level much stronger and objective journalism – they just wear their beliefs clearly on their sleeve, offer their opinion, but always back it up with actual facts. Fox News straight up lies and distorts facts. There is a big difference. Also, regarding the comments of his guests: ratings does not equal integrity or quality, and yes, Obama clearly made those statements to energize his base.

I think you would do well to look up what the word, “objective” means and then re-evaluate what you said about Olbermann and Maddow. Furthermore, the assertion they always deal with actual facts is news to a lot of people. There are plenty of examples of them dealing in half-truths or outright distorting and reporting lies as true. This is a perfect example of what Obama’s being criticized for.

John King is one of the better journalists on cable news. Kudos to him.

Haimerej said:
Great to see this in the media.

I’ve had heated arguments with someone in my family over whether or not Obama was a partisan. (I know, right?)

I just don’t get this idea that we have to be “bipartisan.” There are issues that people disagree about and it’s the airing out of those issues in public debate that let’s people decide which is best. I don’t begrudge someone having their own opinions, even if I think they’re wrong. But to act as though only one side is partisan is a level of idiocy or dishonesty that’s really unbecoming, especially for a President who’s supposed to be so smart.

Lawrence O Donnell implied we should just accept that the days of a lot of objective reporting are over and we;ll have to take partisanship into account as we gather information. That;s kinda what Obama was saying in them article. I agree with your comments on honest disagreements among people and being somewhat partisan doesn’t need to be seen as a negative.
I don’t think Obama was indicating in the article that he objected to Fox as too partisan and others weren’t. I think he basically said he doesn’t agree with the agenda they’re promoting and feels it’s destructive. Partisan ship is not being discussed. He talks early in the article about the GOP as a group deciding to say no to everything as a political tactic in order to make the Democrats look bad in 2010. He may be referencing Fox’s support and cooperation of that tactic. He was asked a direct question about what he thought of Fox, {not the media in general}
Consider reading the article if you haven’t to see if you think he’s being reasonable.

Azarkhan said:
“It would do a smart move for King to try to establish himself as an objective observer in this battle”

Maybe it would be a smart move for MSNBC to try to be an objective cable news station. It might actually help ratings.

Maybe it would be a smart move for Pres Obama to read the American Constitution, esp. the First Amendment regarding freedom of the press and speech.

He clearly stated he supports free press so what’s your point?

Haimerej said:
to act as though only one side is partisan is a level of idiocy or dishonesty that’s really unbecoming, especially for a President who’s supposed to be so smart.

I totally agree.

I keep searching for reasons to like this President, but he himself keeps giving me reasons not to.

stoogedudes said:
John King is one of the better journalists on cable news. Kudos to him.

+1

CosmosDan said:
He clearly stated he supports free press so what’s your point?

A lot of fools believe what Pres Obama says. I suppose that you are one of them.

Rogue-Comic said:
I totally agree.

I keep searching for reasons to like this President, but he himself keeps giving me reasons not to.

read the article and see if that’s how he acted. I didn’t see it. I was surprised he singled out Fox but the question was specifically about Fox and not about partisanship in the media. Him saying I don’t agree with them is like saying he doesn’t agree with republicans. Not really that surprising or horrible.

Azarkhan said:
A lot of fools believe what Pres Obama says. I suppose that you are one of them.

If you have any real evidence this admin doesn’t support free press I’ll be glad to look at it. Empty accusations don’t impress me.

Azarkhan said:
A lot of fools believe what Pres Obama says. I suppose that you are one of them.

Yep. Short memory and all.

Looks like King is shooting for a gig at Fox news to me.

That clip read like an O’Keefe video.

Obama is for a free press. He just doesn’t want Fox disagreeing with him.

John King: Thanks for b-slapping Barry and MSNBC.

…But you don’t deny Fox News or any other news organization access to pool interviews with administration officials as was done last year or have your top aides go on Sunday morning public affairs shows and tell other journalists they should cut Fox News from the journalistic herd.

I have written this before, but it bears repeating: Outside of Richard Nixon, I have never seen a president with the profound contempt for the press that Obama has.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2010/09/post_6.html

Some_Dude said:

The man can speak and inspire – expect a lot more of this and soon.

Its not 2008 anymore, he has been exposed as the fraud he is. His message isnt a rallying cry anymore, its ignored while people are trying to find out real answers to our problems.

Corvax said:
Its not 2008 anymore, he has been exposed as the fraud he is. His message isnt a rallying cry anymore, its ignored while people are trying to find out real answers to our problems.

He has been exposed for 2 years as being nothing more than a class warfare community organizer and a bad one at that. There is no magic in the bottle anymore. He can dance around the country trying to point his finger at everyone and everything for all the failures of his Administration and the Super Majority he enjoyed but even with 99% of the media carrying their water the beating they are going to take in November will be historic. It will be fun watching the real astroturf at work this weekend in DC. They thought they were going to rule for 40 years and it will be over in 2

“Objective”? You are kidding me. For truly objective people, the truth is clear….John along with the other 90% of the lamestream media is trying to be a Schultz or Maddow. Good luck with that!!

Bathtub Boy is a jackass! That just about says it all. Not sure who the fat guy was who called Christy Fat, but we may want to pool a few bucks and send that idiot a mirror.

Nice. Thanks for pointing this out, Steve. I really dug that whole segment. I’m going to check out a couple shows, and Mr. King might’ve just stumbled across at least one new viewer.

CosmosDan said:
Lawrence O Donnell implied we should just accept that the days of a lot of objective reporting are over and we;ll have to take partisanship into account as we gather information.

I think I’ve made it clear I believe that the idea there was once an objective media is bogus. The only people that pine for that anymore seem to be those on the left, which seems to reinforce the idea that the media has been historically leftist.

CosmosDan said:
I don’t think Obama was indicating in the article that he objected to Fox as too partisan and others weren’t. I think he basically said he doesn’t agree with the agenda they’re promoting and feels it’s destructive. Partisan ship is not being discussed. He talks early in the article about the GOP as a group deciding to say no to everything as a political tactic in order to make the Democrats look bad in 2010. He may be referencing Fox’s support and cooperation of that tactic. He was asked a direct question about what he thought of Fox, {not the media in general}Consider reading the article if you haven’t to see if you think he’s being reasonable.

I was speaking in a broader context, not specifically about the article. If we’re to believe him, the Democrats were never obstructionists for the former administration. Otherwise why would he constantly be using partisanship as a negative when referring to the GOP? Personally, I’m sick of politicians talking about “bipartisanship” when it comes to contentious issues. If they can’t find a consensus, then the bills don’t need to be passed. We’re obviously not ready for them and may never be.

WilsonTheHeretic said:
Nice. Thanks for pointing this out, Steve. I really dug that whole segment. I’m going to check out a couple shows, and Mr. King might’ve just stumbled across at least one new viewer.

Make that two. That was really quite refreshing. I don’t know who that woman in the clip is, but I appreciate that, as a journalist, she gets that the media is supposed to be the fourth estate, nor “for the state.” It seems, however, that she’s part of a dying breed of journalists. It’s hard to trust any “news” source these days, since few seem to be above exaggerating or outright lying to advance one viewpoint our another. It really is a sad state of affairs.

To really understand just where everyone is going with what they say, and how they want you to think about what they say, you only need to know their status in live, the person paying their salaries, and what they have to gain in what they say or do. If he is a medical doctor, he will offer prescription drugs, if he is a surgeon, he will offer to cut you open and do necessary repairs, if he is a chiropractor he will move the juices in your sore joints by manual or mechanical therapy. This sounds normal and great to those who have not experienced these things before, and some time it works and some time it doesn’t. Radio and TV people are pretty much the same, they have an agenda and if they tell the truth and it fits your agenda, you may have a match. Be careful listening to them talk about your taxes, you, personally, may not have a tax problem. You may have an income problem. If so why in the hell would you ever want to jump on the no tax band wagon? Trust me, everyone out there is looking out for himself, so vote your heart and be careful letting them feed garbage into your ears about the future. A wise man once said there is nothing to fear but fear it’s self. America is the best place in the world. People are dying trying to cross the borders to come to America.

Big Eddie said:
Notice in the clip that Beck and Hannity are offering opinions and Schultz and Olbermann are namecalling in as nasty a way as they can get away with ?

Good observation; you think it dented the consciousness of the liberals?

If a slam occurs but no one hears it, is it a slam?

uggugg said:
America is the best place in the world. People are dying trying to cross the borders to come to America.

Herein we agree. Each day I live I thank God for allowing me to come to the United States. It’s a bit more worn and tattered than it was when I arrived, but it’s still the greatest country God ever saw fit to exist on this planet.

pyrope said:
If a slam occurs but no one hears it, is it a slam?

Maybe I should expand on my comment; it’s a great comment in that it’s accurate but the venue is one not frequented so much as are others. I admire this man for his pragmatism.

Azarkhan said:
…But you don’t deny Fox News or any other news organization access to pool interviews with administration officials as was done last year or have your top aides go on Sunday morning public affairs shows and tell other journalists they should cut Fox News from the journalistic herd.

I have written this before, but it bears repeating: Outside of Richard Nixon, I have never seen a president with the profound contempt for the press that Obama has.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2010/09/post_6.html

Fair Enough; When they hired that lady for her short lived position I thought the goal was to go after very specific stories and combat severe spin. It’s a bad call to try and go after a network.

Haimerej said:
I was speaking in a broader context, not specifically about the article. If we’re to believe him, the Democrats were never obstructionists for the former administration. Otherwise why would he constantly be using partisanship as a negative when referring to the GOP? Personally, I’m sick of politicians talking about “bipartisanship” when it comes to contentious issues. If they can’t find a consensus, then the bills don’t need to be passed. We’re obviously not ready for them and may never be.

Well they sure weren’t obstructionists when they should have been. I think the issue here is that with the country in crisis the GOP seems more interested scoring political points than getting things done through compromise.
For either party the idea that it’s better politically to lock things up than have the party in power to appear to have accomplished something positive seems like a big fuck you to the general public.

Big Eddie said:
Notice in the clip that Beck and Hannity are offering opinions and Schultz and Olbermann are namecalling in as nasty a way as they can get away with ?

No name calling on Fox, never! Always just fair and balanced News there. John King a solid news guy? Have you ever really watched this man? He flips flops more than IHOP!

Is this the new prerogative at CNN? Attack everyone now who gets higher ratings?
Then again, whose ratings are higher? CNN or Pres. Obama?