Stewart for the win, yet again. Suck on it, Faux News Charnel.

Sounds like Stewart is being a little bitter. Funny thing about loud mouths, they never like to get called out for their own b.s.

Wow, this Fox thing really got under his skin!

So Fox won the biggest lie of the year two years in a row, and their viewers still aren’t the most misinformed? What does that say about people who lean to the right? Maybe that means they’re able to process information themselves instead of letting others process it for them.

I watched this it was hilarious, really good stuff.

PolitiFact is not MediaMatters, but it is definitely a left leaning organization. Much like CNN is left leaning but not bat guana crazy like MSNBC. For Stewart to deem them the arbiters of truth is misleading and …..well….. not factual.

AmericaSucks said:
Stewart for the win, yet again. Suck on it, Faux News Charnel.

Cool icon and name.

When you’re finished rebelling against mommy and daddy, there’s a whole world of diverse opinion out there. Check it out when you catch your breath from chanting “faux lies!” and other smart observations.

Frances….
You forgot in your completely opinionated article to say that the segment was awesome,and that the point Jon was making is that he got called on stats but that even the stats ,when looked at more closely, were outrageously in his favor.But still he apologized for the mistake right?Right Fox?
But hey it’s ok Frances…don’t let humor or,for that matter,objectivity,get in the way of your obvious narrative.
Just stick to your thing…..

turk281 said:
Wow, this Fox thing really got under his skin!

Got under his skin? More like gave him a shit load of material to help him entertain and prove his point at the same time.

Yeah, he sure is angry…

Stewart killed FoxNews once again.

For FNC and it’s advocates this is a losing battle… Stewarts comedic content is political but it is still a comedy show… Any equivalency is false on it’s face… To wage such a battle shows weakness in the broader war… Florence & the Machine is mad ill.

Politifact says a Pew survey :
…particular Fox shows scored well above the average. Hannity & Colmes was one of only four choices to exceed 40 percent — the others were the New Yorker/the Atlantic, NPR and MSNBC’s Hardball — while The O’Reilly Factor scored 28 percent, or 10 points above the national average. (Hannity & Colmes even exceeded Stewart’s Daily Show in this poll, 42 percent to 30 percent.)
Stewart ‘s viewers got clobbered by Hannity?
Now thats embarrassing.
No wonder the tap dance.
He was really shook up and blurted out something he could not back up.
Gad, I love to see smug combined with low intelligence.

turk281 said:
Cool icon and name.

When you’re finished rebelling against mommy and daddy, there’s a whole world of diverse opinion out there. Check it out when you catch your breath from chanting “faux lies!” and other smart observations.

Typical Republic Party dittohead, incapable of addressing the substance of a discussion when it goes against you. Sad days indeed, son.

Let me guess, the FoxNews lies is just them telling the other side of the story, right?

Liars need a voice too, rite?

Nice going Stewart, instead of owning up to your mistake you decide to point the fingers back at Fox to make yourself feel better. You know I honestly thought Stewart was better than this bush-league pandering; I would expect this from any commentator on cable news but not Stewart. I guess he is starting to show his true colors.

Stewart is no comedian. He is a liberal commentator who happens to be funny once in a while.

Jackyboy said:
Nice going Stewart, instead of owning up to your mistake you decide to point the fingers back at Fox to make yourself feel better. You know I honestly thought Stewart was better than this bush-league pandering; I would expect this from any commentator on cable news but not Stewart. I guess he is starting to show his true colors.

Stewart is no comedian. He is a liberal commentator who happens to be funny once in a while.

No comment on all those FNC lies, then? C’mon, little lady, fess up–it’s just a wee bit disheartening, isn’t it?

Stewart is on the offense. lol
Wonder why?
Obviously it’s bugging him – too bad, so sad.

AmericaSucks said:
No comment on all those FNC lies, then? C’mon, little lady, fess up–it’s just a wee bit disheartening, isn’t it?

cause they were not. Check into some of them.

And Clown Nose On…

seek said:
cause they were not. Check into some of them.

I have. They were.

Next, please.

AmericaSucks said:
Stewart for the win, yet again. Suck on it, Faux News Charnel.

AmericaSucks said:
Typical Republic Party dittohead, incapable of addressing the substance of a discussion when it goes against you. Sad days indeed, son.

youre sooooo cosmopolitan!

for a 15 y.o.

what was your substance again?

My Prediction:
Wednesday (Tomorrow): MSNBC primetime host(s) use this clip from the Daily Show to mock FOX News.
Thursday: The Daily Show shows MSNBC mocking FOX News, and then does a similar bit (listing MSNBC “false” rating from Politifact), in order to mock MSNBC, to show that he will attack both sides.

Jon Stewart is not a comedian! It’s very important that I make him legitimate, so that I can delegitimize everything he has to say.

In conclusion, Jon Stewart would like to clarify that Fox News, a 24-hour cable channel, has been caught in falsehoods more often than himself, a comedian with no political influence whatsoever (seriously, this isn’t so hard people) who gets half an hour four times a week to tell jokes about politics.

Who would have thought that Jon Stewart would be written up less times than a 24-hour news network? That’s shocking! I mean, yes… they have hours and hours of live programming a week (for example, O’Reilly is live for 5 hours weekly), while Stewart only has his taped program on for 2 hours weekly. So logically, FNC would have more opportunity (just like all the other networks) to have more errors than Stewart… but let’s ignore logic for now, because it has no place in… um… well, whatever it is Stewart is talking about.

No… let’s remember that Stewart is just a comedian who happens to interview politicians, heads of state, political operatives, and people international importance… hold rallies in Washington DC to influence the public, write books on American history and politics, make comments about news and politics, and get a platform to speak his mind on his own program and on other news programs frequently… but he has no “influence” and real importance (despite what the polls and politicians themselves say). We must again ignore the logic of the situation, and pretend like Jon is 100% correct, because that’s just what we have to do! He’s a comedian… and that’s why we take his word so seriously… unless, that is, he’s wrong about something in which case we didn’t take it seriously to begin with.

Oh, and don’t even think about looking PolitiFact’s reviews of any other network or news personality. Don’t even think about it… just ignore that too.

You have your directions. Go forth and copy/paste!

jddoubleu said:
youre sooooo cosmopolitan!

for a 15 y.o.

what was your substance again?

Address the lies Stewart listed, grandpa. That’s the substance (ironically) of both Stewart’s segment AND Fox News.

I never think that John Stewart can get better, but there you go… And you FOX lovers wonder why we libtards can’t take much of your ideas and notions seriously. .All mainstream media sucks. it’s impossible to get a handle on what’s really going on in the world by watching the ‘news’ on CBS, NBC, FOX, ABC, CNN, the whole lot of them. FOX may not be the worst, but because of its audience size, FOX has done more to dumb down America than any other media outlet.
And for you rightwingers who like to congregate at Mediaite, you do know what I’m saying about the poverty of rightwing media, otherwise you wouldn’t be here. I occasionally drop in on rightwing websites and they are very boring, repetitive and monchrome. You’re against every last thing that Liberals and Progressives are for. That’s pretty much it. Not a very helpful, winning formula.

PolitiFalse.. LOL

I didn’t know the Constitution gave us rights! I’m pretty sure rights are God given. Some people also need to read the 9th amendment.

Hey righties he admitted he was wrong when is fox going to correct all those statements? ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm never? You guys were quoting poltifact yesterday but now call them a lefty organization? Which is it and if politifact is wrong about FOX then are they wrong about stewart? Please explain.

I’m sure tomorrow, he will do the same with CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, A-MESS-NBC, the NYT, and the WA post. Oh wait, I forgot that according to Jon, they have no liberal bias or agenda.

FOX NEWS, the most trusted name in news. Deal with it libs. They ain’t goin anywhere!

He’s really got a bug up his ass about Fox News. Did he bother to list the lies and goofs of MSNBC? Of course not. But then, he’s just a nonpartisan comedian, right? Did he check Politifact for MSNBC’s lies?

How about the NYT which has had to retract stories and even pay damages to people they’ve libeled? Remember when they ran a story about McCain having an affair and then had to retract it while they ignored the rumors swirling around about Edwards’ affair? But the NYT isn’t biased, noooo.

I think we’d all be better off if all the news outlets just admitted that they are no longer objective. No one any longer believes their bullshit claims of objectivity.

AmericaSucks said:
Address the lies Stewart listed, grandpa. That’s the substance (ironically) of both Stewart’s segment AND Fox News.

oh, so its stewart’s borrowed substance and not yours. got it…

you’re quite the intellectual.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
FOX NEWS, the most trusted name in news. Deal with it libs. They ain’t goin anywhere!

That’s fo sho! ;)

1 lie – death panel – removed (but it was a lie and didn’t exist).
I call b.s. on that one.

seek said:
Stewart is on the offense. lol
Wonder why?
Obviously it’s bugging him – too bad, so sad.

An entire network against one comedian.
And they keep writing his material.
Ever hear the phrase, “Laughing his way to the bank”?

AmericaSucks said:
Typical Republic Party dittohead, incapable of addressing the substance of a discussion when it goes against you. Sad days indeed, son.

America Sucks, can I ask you a question? Do you live in this country? And if so, why? Which country would you prefer to live in? Which country, in your opinion, does not suck?

Jaurez said:
That’s fo sho! ;)

GO TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jddoubleu said:
oh, so its stewart’s borrowed substance and not yours. got it…

you’re quite the intellectual.

There’s this thing called book-learnin’ you might want to look into. It’s really quite similar: you read something and gather information from it. You can even check its veracity for yourself.

If you need help deciphering any of this, check out dictionary.com, Socrates.

slickerwick said:
America Sucks, can I ask you a question? Do you live in this country? And if so, why? Which country would you prefer to live in? Which country, in your opinion, does not suck?

Interesting question. Lots of nations don’t suck. This one just happens to suck in a big way (in lots of them, actually).

You know what’s great about the good ol’ USofA, though? Freedom of speech.

Of course, other nations have that, too.

ImNotBlue said:
Who would have thought that Jon Stewart would be written up less times than a 24-hour news network? That’s shocking! I mean, yes… they have hours and hours of live programming a week (for example, O’Reilly is live for 5 hours weekly), while Stewart only has his taped program on for 2 hours weekly. So logically, FNC would have more opportunity (just like all the other networks) to have more errors than Stewart… but let’s ignore logic for now, because it has no place in… um… well, whatever it is Stewart is talking about.

No… let’s remember that Stewart is just a comedian who happens to interview politicians, heads of state, political operatives, and people international importance… hold rallies in Washington DC to influence the public, write books on American history and politics, make comments about news and politics, and get a platform to speak his mind on his own program and on other news programs frequently… but he has no “influence” and real importance (despite what the polls and politicians themselves say). We must again ignore the logic of the situation, and pretend like Jon is 100% correct, because that’s just what we have to do! He’s a comedian… and that’s why we take his word so seriously… unless, that is, he’s wrong about something in which case we didn’t take it seriously to begin with.

Oh, and don’t even think about looking PolitiFact’s reviews of any other network or news personality. Don’t even think about it… just ignore that too.

You have your directions. Go forth and copy/paste!

wowww….hehehe…….

short version?

you’re wrong,completely,absolutely,and dishonestly wrong.

but hey…I get it, your ass hurts, so I forgive you.

you’re welcome…

Glackin said:
An entire network against one comedian.And they keep writing his material.Ever hear the phrase, “Laughing his way to the bank”?

Don’t you mean 99% of the corrupt, liberal media PLUS THE WHITEHOUSE V FOX.

Wait, who’s the most trusted name in news? Wait for it………..FOX is!

Glackin said:
An entire network against one comedian.

citation please

bradmcneal said:
Politifact says a Pew survey :
…particular Fox shows scored well above the average. Hannity & Colmes was one of only four choices to exceed 40 percent — the others were the New Yorker/the Atlantic, NPR and MSNBC’s Hardball — while The O’Reilly Factor scored 28 percent, or 10 points above the national average. (Hannity & Colmes even exceeded Stewart’s Daily Show in this poll, 42 percent to 30 percent.)
Stewart ’s viewers got clobbered by Hannity?
Now thats embarrassing.
No wonder the tap dance.
He was really shook up and blurted out something he could not back up.
Gad, I love to see smug combined with low intelligence.

Uninformed and misinformed are not the same thing.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Wait, who’s the most trusted name in news? Wait for it………..FOX is!

Jersey Shore is far more trusted than Fox if # of viewers equates with trust.

Obviously, PolitiFact never researched conservatives on Mediaite.

AmericaRules said:
You can even check its veracity for yourself.

Something you have obviously never done. Read or checked.

Publius219 said:
Uninformed and misinformed are not the same thing.

You would know since you are exhibit A of both.

And THOSE were the Fox gNOpig lies caught by Politifact.

How about we add the ones caught by Media Matters, Think Progress, News Hounds, and Crooks and Liars?

Will that be enough, pubbies?

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
You would know since you are exhibit A of both.

Ad Hominems ‘R Us

Public219 said:
Jersey Shore is far more trusted than Fox if # of viewers equates with trust.

weakest argument, evah!

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Wait, who’s the most trusted name in news? Wait for it………..FOX is!

That seems to be what FoxNews have always been telling you, isn’t it.

AmericaSucks said:
There’s this thing called book-learnin’ you might want to look into. It’s really quite similar: you read something and gather information from it. You can even check its veracity for yourself.

If you need help deciphering any of this, check out dictionary.com, Socrates.

ive read your posts and ive gathered your suffering from teen angst and most definitely angry that your parents took away your xbox. did you take up smoking just to spite them?

Fox! The liar of the year winner two years in a row! Fox. The center of the Sociopath Universe!

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972

FOX NEWS, the most trusted name in news. Deal with it libs.

Not anymore, they’re not.

From FNC 2010: “FOX News Channel (FNC) is a 24-hour all-encompassing news service dedicated to delivering breaking news as well as political and business news. A top five cable network, FNC has been the most watched news channel in the country for nearly ten years and according to Public Policy Polling, is the most trusted television news source in the country. Owned by News Corp., FNC is available in more than 90 million homes and dominates the cable news landscape, routinely notching the top ten programs in the genre.”

Then PPP updated their poll the following year. The results?

“A year ago a plurality of Americans said they trusted Fox News. Now a plurality of them don’t. Conservatives haven’t moved all that much- 75% said they trusted it last year and 72% still do this time around. But moderates and liberals have both had a strong increase in their level of distrust for the network- a 12 point gain from 48% to 60% for moderates and a 16 point gain from 66% to 82% for liberals. Voters between left and center tend to be more trusting of the media across the board, which is why a fair number of them were still rating Fox favorably even a year ago at this time. But it looks like with a lot of those folks it has finally crossed the line to being too political to trust.”

So… what was that you were saying?

Publius219 said:
Jersey Shore is far more trusted than Fox if # of viewers equates with trust.

Well they are the ratings KING, but I was referring to every poll that shows most Americans trust FOX more than any other news network.

jddoubleu said:
ive read your posts and ive gathered your suffering from teen angst and most definitely angry that your parents took away your xbox. did you take up smoking just to spite them?

Get back to me when you’ve learned the difference between “you’re” and “your,” dummy.

AmericaSucks said:
Typical Republic Party dittohead, incapable of addressing the substance of a discussion when it goes against you. Sad days indeed, son.

Well, I’m not a Republican, but I guess it would take an intellectual heavyweight to debate the merits of your wisdom -

“Stewart for the win, yet again. Suck on it, Faux News Charnel.”

Good commentary, America Sucks!

turk281 said:
Well, I’m not a Republican, but I guess it would take an intellectual heavyweight to debate the merits of your wisdom -

“Stewart for the win, yet again. Suck on it, Faux News Charnel.”

Good commentary, America Sucks!

Thanks for your support! It means a lot!!

March 2011 Suffolk U:

FOX News – 28%

CNN – 18%

Undecided -12%

NBC – 10%

Other -10%

MSNBC — 7%

ABC — 6%

CBS — 6%

C-SPAN — 3%

ganymede said:
I occasionally drop in on rightwing websites and they are very boring, repetitive and monchrome. You’re against every last thing that Liberals and Progressives are for. That’s pretty much it. Not a very helpful, winning formula.

Is that different than the left-wing sites? Are they not against everything that the Republicans and Conservatives stand for?

insideguy said:
Hey righties he admitted he was wrong when is fox going to correct all those statements? ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm never?

Are you sure they didn’t? How do you know?

Glackin said:
An entire network against one comedian.
And they keep writing his material.
Ever hear the phrase, “Laughing his way to the bank”?

Really? I thought this was mostly Stewart vs PolitiFact. Who from FNC has responded to Stewart?

AmericaSucks said:
Interesting question. Lots of nations don’t suck. This one just happens to suck in a big way (in lots of them, actually)..

That’s not very specific. Do you have any real answers?

GuessWhoSuka said:
wowww….hehehe…….

Grafx? Is that you?

short version?
you’re wrong,completely,absolutely,and dishonestly wrong.

Really? Good thing you went with the short version… I’d hate for you to have to explain where I was “dishonestly wrong.”

but hey…I get it, your ass hurts, so I forgive you.

No… but my back does hurt a bit. Thanks for asking… kinda.

AmericaSucks said:
Get back to me when you’ve learned the difference between “you’re” and “your,” dummy.

Maybe by the time he gets back to you, you’ll learn how to spell “Channel” correctly.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Well they are the ratings KING, but I was referring to every poll that shows most Americans trust FOX more than any other news network.

Be careful, son–it’s the “every poll” claim that got Stewart in trouble the other day. Or hadn’t you noticed?

The same outfit whose polls found FNC most trusted in 2010 found in 2011 that they WEREN’T most trusted anymore. PBS (who hadn’t been included in the previous poll) was.

So you’re wrong, but in truth it’s not your fault.

You were misinformed by Fox News.

Via US NEWS and World Report:

In a stunning rejection of network news and nightly news anchors, cable news, driven by the Fox News Channel and mouthy Bill O’Reilly, is now the top most trusted source—by a mile.

In a new poll from Boston’s Suffolk University, more than a quarter of the nation says Fox is tops when it comes to who they trust the most and O’Reilly is the most believable.

“This poll shows two things: first, the network news have completely lost their brand. Second, the only network with any intensity is Fox News,” says Brent Bozell, president of the conservative Media Research Center. “Bottom line: the more they attack Fox, the stronger it is getting,” he adds.

Jaurez said:
weakest argument, evah!

As though you are a good arbiter of argumentative strength.

turk281 said:
Maybe by the time he gets back to you, you’ll learn how to spell “Channel” correctly.

It’s “charnel,” dummy. Look it up.

But I did quite enjoy your display of ignorance.

Patsy said:
How about we add the ones caught by Media Matters, Think Progress, News Hounds, and Crooks and Liars?

ROFLMBAO!

AmericaSucks said:
Get back to me when you’ve learned the difference between “you’re” and “your,” dummy.

actually in editing i accidentally deleted the “is” between “suffering” and “from” but im glad it gave you a reason to run away.

just proves youre a chickenshit loser

AmericaSucks said:
Be careful, son–it’s the “every poll” claim that got Stewart in trouble the other day. Or hadn’t you noticed? The same outfit whose polls found FNC most trusted in 2010 found in 2011 that they WEREN’T most trusted anymore. PBS (who hadn’t been included in the previous poll) was. So you’re wrong, but in truth it’s not your fault. You were misinformed by Fox News.

I didn’t say they were #1 in every poll, I was referencing every poll they are #1 in. For instance, I’m sure they aren’t in the Daily Kos poll. Try to keep up.

turk281 said:
Maybe by the time he gets back to you, you’ll learn how to spell “Channel” correctly.

The great thing about your reply is that I KNEW some dummy would try to call me out for a misspelling, when in fact it was a well-chosen word. Thanks for being predictably stupid. :-)

Hey, libby posters–that America Sucks poster is on your team. (And you wonder why the left is seen as anti-American.)

It’s always amazing to me how tone-deaf libs are, how they present themselves as hate-filled loons and juvenile tantrum-throwers and expect to win anyone over to their side.

All the shilling the media does for the Dems and for Obomber and yet the midterms were a victory for the Repubs. If you wonder why, check out the Dems’ repellent cheerleaders and you may begin to understand the reason.

jddoubleu said:
actually in editing i accidentally deleted the “is” between “suffering” and “from” but im glad it gave you a reason to run away.

just proves youre a chickenshit loser

I’m right here, you unpatriotic dolt.

slickerwick said:
Hey, libby posters–that America Sucks poster is on your team. (And you wonder why the left is seen as anti-American.)

It’s always amazing to me how tone-deaf libs are, how they present themselves as hate-filled loons and juvenile tantrum-throwers and expect to win anyone over to their side.

All the shilling the media does for the Dems and for Obomber and yet the midterms were a victory for the Repubs. If you wonder why, check out the Dems’ repellent cheerleaders and you may begin to understand the reason.

Got a problem with free speech?

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
March 2011 Suffolk U:

FOX News – 28%

CNN – 18%

Undecided -12%

NBC – 10%

Other -10%

MSNBC — 7%

ABC — 6%

CBS — 6%

C-SPAN — 3%

If it’s FoxNews Vs everybody else, Fox better come in at more than 50% not 28%, you lose.

AmericaSucks said:
Got a problem with free speech?

Believe me, as the official voice of the left here at Mediaite, we want you to keep talking. Please!!

Holy christ! The body snatchers put a pod under John Stewart’s bed….he’s become Keith Olbermann.

Fox News Lies

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Believe me, as the official voice of the left here at Mediaite, we want you to keep talking. Please!!

C’mon, son. Don’t waste your time on me. Regale us with tales of how all those Fox News lies aren’t lies, little boy.

ImJustThatDamnGood said:
Fox News Lies

FOX NEWS dominates and they will continue to do so. Not even you, Mr. Pres, could take them down and you tried. EPIC FAIL Ozero!

AmericaSucks said:
I’m right here, you unpatriotic dolt.

yes you are. maybe if youre good, mommy will let you back on the xbox. you can take out your self-loathing anger on some halo players!!

AmericaSucks said:
The great thing about your reply is that I KNEW some dummy would try to call me out for a misspelling, when in fact it was a well-chosen word. Thanks for being predictably stupid. :-)

Oh, it was one of those clever white liberal things, huh?

Like Repugs, Rethugs, Faux, Breitfart, and other cool things that boring, rich, white, liberals use to seem clever. Thanks for filling me in. Do you guys high five each other at your drum circles when you think of these things?

Alice67 said:
Fox! The liar of the year winner two years in a row! Fox. The center of the Sociopath Universe!

How many times did MSNBC win that award? Anyone bother to look it up?

Alice67 said:
Fox! The liar of the year winner two years in a row! Fox. The center of the Sociopath Universe!

“The center of the Sociopath Universe.” Really? A tad over-the-top, don’t you think?
When I hear “sociopaths” I think of child rapists and serial killers. But then, I’m living in the real world. You, no doubt, inhabit one created by your own fevered imagination. You really are a silly billy.

AmericaSucks said:
C’mon, son. Don’t waste your time on me. Regale us with tales of how all those Fox News lies aren’t lies, little boy.

It is a “she” And she is quite old. Loooooves to eat Big Macs while watching Fox.

I think you get the picture.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
FOX NEWS dominates and they will continue to do so. Not even you, Mr. Pres, could take them down and you tried. EPIC FAIL Ozero!

They could not stop Obama in 2008, so much for their millions of viewers.

Don’t bother with Alice. She spends most days making out with her cardboard cutout of Ozero.

I guess Mainstream media is the most tusted name in news, according to your argument.

And that’s weird when only 20% of Americans are Liberals, am i rite?

jddoubleu said:
yes you are. maybe if youre good, mommy will let you back on the xbox. you can take out your self-loathing anger on some halo players!!

Sounds cool, man. Let’s be xbox friends.

Hey, have you seen turk281 around? Seems he’s the coward. Ran away after having his stupidity exposed for all to see (not that LiberalTormenter hasn’t been doing that for ages–I really admire that guy’s sticktoitiveness!).

Skippy said:
It is a “she” And she is quite old. Loooooves to eat Big Macs while watching Fox.

I think you get the picture.

Eek!!!

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
FOX NEWS LIES and they will continue to do so. Not even you, Mr. Pres, could take them down and you tried. EPIC FAIL Ozero!

F I X E D

Skippy said:
It is a “she” And she is quite old. Loooooves to eat Big Macs while watching Fox. I think you get the picture.

Hey, 39 isn’t that old, peanut brain! Actually I only watched FOX for about 30 minutes today. I just love to torment you libs that can’t stand they completely dominate. It kills you that you can’t get them off the air and I plippin love it!

turk281 said:
Oh, it was one of those clever white liberal things, huh?

Like Repugs, Rethugs, Faux, Breitfart, and other cool things that boring, rich, white, liberals use to seem clever. Thanks for filling me in. Do you guys high five each other at your drum circles when you think of these things?

AmericaSucks said:
Sounds cool, man. Let’s be xbox friends.

Hey, have you seen turk281 around? Seems he’s the coward. Ran away after having his stupidity exposed for all to see (not that LiberalTormenter hasn’t been doing that for ages–I really admire that guy’s sticktoitiveness!).

really?

ImJustThatDamnGood said:
They could not stop Obama in 2008, so much for their millions of viewers.

Actually, I’ve said numerous times that it’s amazing a Republican ever gets elected since the corrupt liberal media is so in the tank for the left.

jddoubleu said:
really?

Like, totally.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Hey, 39 isn’t that old, peanut brain! Actually I only watched FOX for about 30 minutes today. I just love to torment you libs that can’t stand they completely dominate. It kills you that you can’t get them off the air and I plippin love it!

For the 10,000 time. As long as Fux continues spewing LIES, they DO deserve to be taken off the air, or at least start calling themselves other than “NEWS” because they are NOT NEWS.

- What’s the all important demo, again?
Aaaah, OPINION SHOWS.
Not NEWS.

Chris Wallace actually broke Jon Stewart. How long is he going to spend complaining, trying to compensate for his poor performance? He is now only validating the criticism that he is just a partisan, idealist hack. His ‘they do it too’ thing is silly. The correction was about him and him alone. Why not then try to debunk Chris, since he failed to do so in the interview?

AmericaSucks said:
Got a problem with free speech?

Not at all. I love it that you’re speaking freely. Keep it up. You are a wonderful spokesperson for your side, a shining example of liberalism.

The Voice of Reason said:
Chris Wallace actually broke Jon Stewart. How long is he going to spend complaining, trying to compensate for his poor performance? He is now only validating the criticism that he is just a partisan, idealist hack. His ‘they do it too’ thing is silly. The correction was about him and him alone. Why not then try to debunk Chris, since he failed to do so in the interview?

Oh, you poor lost child.

AmericaSucks said:
Like, totally.

its ok lil’ guy, i know the world seems against you. if you just stick with it, one day you might (i said might) be successful enough to cast off the cloak of pain that you wrap yourself in to deal with the failures in your life. ill cross my fingers for you!!

hang in there lil’ feller!!

They ain’t goin anywhere Peanut Butter boy, so get used to it. They are the mosted trusted name in news, and dominate the non-competition of the corrupt, liberal media. The sooner you accept reality, the sooner you can start the healing process.

slickerwick said:
Not at all. I love it that you’re speaking freely. Keep it up. You are a wonderful spokesperson for your side, a shining example of liberalism.

Who ever said I was a liberal? I’m an openminded Tea Partier, ma’am.

It looks like he was responding to this video on youtube put up earlier today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKQHQIOtCuQ

AmericaSucks said:
Who ever said I was a liberal? I’m an openminded Tea Partier, ma’am.

Accept tea-partiers love this country.

Patsy said:
Not NEWS.

Billo won the all important demo last night I believe. ROFLMBAO!!!

The Voice of Reason said:
Chris Wallace actually broke Jon Stewart. How long is he going to spend complaining, trying to compensate for his poor performance? He is now only validating the criticism that he is just a partisan, idealist hack. His ‘they do it too’ thing is silly. The correction was about him and him alone. Why not then try to debunk Chris, since he failed to do so in the interview?

I don’t think you watched the Sunday interview, or at least not the unedited version online.

You don’t appear to know what you’re talking about.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Accept tea-partiers love this country.

Not all of us do.

Nacho said:
I don’t think you watched the Sunday interview, or at least not the unedited version online. You don’t appear to know what you’re talking about.

Wallace got him to say on camera that though he thinks FOX is biased and has a political agenda, he doesn’t think the same about ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, NYT, WA Post and the rest. He made a fool out of himself.

The Voice of Reason said:
Chris Wallace actually broke Jon Stewart.

He sure as hell did. ;)

AmericaSucks said:
Not all of us do.

I believe you are a TP’er like I believe OJ is innocent. Nice try, liberal poser! We know an American hating liberal when we smell one.

Skippy said:
For the 10,000 time. As long as Fux continues spewing LIES, they DO deserve to be taken off the air, or at least start calling themselves other than “NEWS” because they are NOT NEWS.

Do you feel the same for MSNBC? PolitiFact has written them up a whole bunch, so the “lie” claim can be made for them too. And they certainly do call themselves “news.” Should they be taken off too?

AmericaSucks said:
Sounds cool, man. Let’s be xbox friends.

Hey, have you seen turk281 around? Seems he’s the coward. Ran away after having his stupidity exposed for all to see (not that LiberalTormenter hasn’t been doing that for ages–I really admire that guy’s sticktoitiveness!).

I guess you were too busy being a suburban rebel to notice my reply?

Or did Mommy tell you to clean your room. Man, America sucks dudes. Parents are like…such fascists!

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
They ain’t goin anywhere Peanut Butter boy, so get used to it. They are the mosted trusted name in news, and dominate the non-competition of the corrupt, liberal media. The sooner you accept reality, the sooner you can start the healing process.

Didn’t you just post a survey where Fux only ranks at 28% while the aggregate NEWS outlets surpass them?

That was YOUR argument.

Skippy said:
For the 10,000 time. As long as Fux continues spewing LIES, they DO deserve to be taken off the air, or at least start calling themselves other than “NEWS” because they are NOT NEWS.

- What’s the all important demo, again?
Aaaah, OPINION SHOWS.
Not NEWS.

And you’re just the little brownshirt to want that, right?
Seems to be a lot of little fascists among the left these days.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Wallace got him to say on camera that though he thinks FOX is biased and has a political agenda, he doesn’t think the same about ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, NYT, WA Post and the rest. He made a fool out of himself.

Then Chris admitted that Fox leans right. No, wait–FNC cut that part out of the interview, didn’t they?

The Voice of Reason said:
Chris Wallace actually broke Jon Stewart. How long is he going to spend complaining, trying to compensate for his poor performance? He is now only validating the criticism that he is just a partisan, idealist hack. His ‘they do it too’ thing is silly. The correction was about him and him alone. Why not then try to debunk Chris, since he failed to do so in the interview?

AmericaSucks said:
Oh, you poor lost child.

So no refute, just anti-intelligent nothing from you? Why even post if you are incapable of anything else?

AmericaSucks said:
Then Chris admitted that Fox leans right. No, wait–FNC cut that part out of the interview, didn’t they?

No, he said they cover the other side. That’s just another lie by you libs, that he said they ONLY cover the right. See if you didn’t lie constantly, you’d have more credibility.

The Voice of Reason said:
Why even post if you are incapable of anything else?

It’s a troll, that’s what they do.

Jaurez said:
Billo won the all important demo last night I believe. ROFLMBAO!!!

Did he deliver NEWS or do his standard moralistic outrage about too much T&A on TV?
Did he echo the Baboon about how President Obama is trying to destroy the country?

That is what you idiots call “NEWS” for the “all important demo”

turk281 said:
I guess you were too busy being a suburban rebel to notice my reply?

Or did Mommy tell you to clean your room. Man, America sucks dudes. Parents are like…such fascists!

Sorry, I didn’t notice. I’m sure I also didn’t see a whole lot of other bugs beneath my feet while I was out walking my dog this evening. No fault of theirs–they were simply beneath my notice, like you. Nevertheless, I probably crushed some of them as I went on along my merry way–much as I did you, boy.

One of Stewart’s “lies told by Fox”
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/feb/15/glenn-beck/glenn-beck-says-muslim-brotherhood-wants-declare-w/

I call b.s. on politifact. You read the article and basically they cherry picked who they believe and who they don’t.

Suspect.

The Voice of Reason said:
So no refute, just anti-intelligent nothing from you? Why even post if you are incapable of anything else?

That content has long ago been dispensed and dealt with. No need to pile on.

Am I not merciful?

The Voice of Reason said:
Chris Wallace actually broke Jon Stewart. How long is he going to spend complaining, trying to compensate for his poor performance? He is now only validating the criticism that he is just a partisan, idealist hack. His ‘they do it too’ thing is silly. The correction was about him and him alone. Why not then try to debunk Chris, since he failed to do so in the interview?

You must have one of those new televisions that have 5 dimensions. Stewart is just milking the comedy gold that is the media going for more than two days on this story. Politifact checking his statement was just pure comedy gold.

In a poll from Boston’s Suffolk University, more than a quarter of the nation says Fox is tops when it comes to who they trust the most and O’Reilly is the most believable.

GO BILLO and FOX NEWS. Way to crush the NON competition!!

Jaurez said:
It’s a troll, that’s what they do.

I learned by watching you, Yoda.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
No, he said they cover the other side. That’s just another lie by you libs, that he said they ONLY cover the right. See if you didn’t lie constantly, you’d have more credibility.

Well, what’s “the other side” in the context of their conversation, son? Come on, you can figure it out if you try. Maybe have a nap first to recharge your batteries.

Nacho said:
I don’t think you watched the Sunday interview, or at least not the unedited version online. You don’t appear to know what you’re talking about.

See I am sure you watched it. But you probably did like most people of bias do. With a selective lens. Seeing where your guys scores, and watching for the other guy’s blunder. To some in their mind their guy always wins. People are not impartial or objective; and it shows. The only version I watched was the unedited one here on Mediaite. You didn’t even back up your claim, so it appears to be you who hasn’t a clue what he is talking about.

ImNotBlue said:
Do you feel the same for MSNBC? PolitiFact has written them up a whole bunch, so the “lie” claim can be made for them too. And they certainly do call themselves “news.” Should they be taken off too?

Some honcho at Fux said they were not going to accept any more errors, if any one did, he/she would be fired.

Odd, I haven’t seen Eric Bolling fired yet.

AmericaSucks said:
That content has long ago been dispensed and dealt with. No need to pile on. Am I not merciful?

not merciful? Don’t you mean not capable?

The Voice of Reason said:
See I am sure you watched it. But you probably did like most people of bias do. With a selective lens. Seeing where your guys scores, and watching for the other guy’s blunder. To some in their mind their guy always wins. People are not impartial or objective; and it shows.

That’s a touching bit of autobiography.

[dabs tear from eye]

AmericaSucks said:
Well, what’s “the other side” in the context of their conversation, son? Come on, you can figure it out if you try. Maybe have a nap first to recharge your batteries.

Really, you can’t figure it out for yourself? You are indeed an idiot wrapped in a moron.

The Voice of Reason said:
not merciful? Don’t you mean not capable?

It’d be casting pearls before swine, little lady. Pearls before swine.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Really, you can’t figure it out for yourself? You are indeed an idiot wrapped in a moron.

This is one of your typical moves. You do it all the time–you can’t figure out what someone asks you so you goad them, they supply the answer, and then you manufacture outrage.

It’s o.k. to admit that you’re just not very bright, son. No one will think less of you.

How could they?!

Jaurez said:
The Voice of Reason said:
Why even post if you are incapable of anything else?
It’s a troll, that’s what they do.

indeed

AmericaSucks said:
Sorry, I didn’t notice. I’m sure I also didn’t see a whole lot of other bugs beneath my feet while I was out walking my dog this evening. No fault of theirs–they were simply beneath my notice, like you. Nevertheless, I probably crushed some of them as I went on along my merry way–much as I did you, boy.

That’s OK. I understand your chores like walking the dog gives you the allowance to buy your Dave Matthews T-Shirts. Don’t forget to pick up the pamphlets at the PHISH show to try and convince your parents to reduce their carbon footprint!

Faux Lies!!!!

turk281 said:

Faux Lies!!!!

Glad to see you coming around to my way of seeing things. We’ll equip you with a working intellect yet, my boy.

AmericaSucks said:
It’d be casting pearls before swine, little lady. Pearls before swine.

Throw her a Big Mac then try to take it away and she becomes rabid.

That is why she calls Bic Macs food and Fux “News”

2011′s lie of the year:

“I’m not an activist…” – Jon Stewart

If he wasn’t Mr. Clown Nose on/off, Politifact would have a field day with Stewart’s activist lies and deceit.
Perhaps Politifact should pay more attention to Stewart. He definitely deserves to be knocked down a few pegs.

I’ll see what I can so in that regard. I usually get some good results.

Skippy said:
Throw her a Big Mac then try to take it away and she becomes rabid.

That is why she calls Bic Macs food and Fux “News”

Ouch.

Skippy said:
Some honcho at Fux said they were not going to accept any more errors, if any one did, he/she would be fired.

Odd, I haven’t seen Eric Bolling fired yet.

What “honcho” said that, and what was the error?

slickerwick said:
Hey, libby posters–that America Sucks poster is on your team. (And you wonder why the left is seen as anti-American.)

It’s always amazing to me how tone-deaf libs are, how they present themselves as hate-filled loons and juvenile tantrum-throwers and expect to win anyone over to their side.

So to you it’s anti-American to see the gridlock, dysfunction, dishonesty, greed, corruption and disregard for one’s fellow man and conclude that every bit of it sucks. What you refuse to look at and deny does not just go away. The much less loving thing is to pretend it doesn’t exist and try to wrap it up in some sick form of patriotism.

“..bias of the mainstream media is towards sensationalism, conflict and laziness.”-Jon Stewart

Nope. They have spent as much time talking about that murder case in Florida as they have comments made on Stewart being on a Sunday morning show. This sort of thing is much easier than spending a segment on the history of the War Powers Act and our current involvement in Libya.

Tomorrow we’ll be inundated with all three White Noise Networks lathering themselves up to varying degrees. Stewart and Co. will pick up some of the dumbest parts and it will be like a working vacation for him this week.

Alice67 said:
So to you it’s anti-American to see the gridlock, dysfunction, dishonesty, greed, corruption and disregard for one’s fellow man and conclude that every bit of it sucks. What you refuse to look at and deny does not just go away. The much less loving thing is to pretend it doesn’t exist and try to wrap it up in some sick form of patriotism.

Nicely put, Alice. The “sick form of patriotism” line is an especially nice touch. 10/10

ImNotBlue said:
What “honcho” said that, and what was the error?

“I spoke with Eric and his producer yesterday and we all agree the line was crossed, thus last night’s apology. We now consider the matter closed.”

FBN executive vice president Kevin Magee

==============================================

No error, no insult there. So, that’s why apologies are thrown around freely.

“Mistakes by any member of the show team that end up on air may result in immediate disciplinary action against those who played significant roles in the ‘mistake chain,’ and those who supervise them. That may include warning letters to personnel files, suspensions, and other possible actions up to and including termination, and this will all obviously play a role in performance reviews.”

turk281 said:
That’s OK. I understand your chores like walking the dog gives you the allowance to buy your Dave Matthews T-Shirts. Don’t forget to pick up the pamphlets at the PHISH show to try and convince your parents to reduce their carbon footprint!

Faux Lies!!!!

Interestingly, your attempts at insults are based on things you can’t possibly know are true. Don’t get me wrong. They MIGHT be true. You just have no way of knowing it because you don’t know me.

On the other hand, when I call you predictably stupid, I do that with some solid evidence. Remember that? Wasn’t that fun when you exposed your ignorance? Hmmm? Wasn’t it?

I’m still amazed at just how thin skinned Jon Stewart has acted in all of this. He says he’s a comedian, he plays it for laughs, then why is he acting so angry?

Jon Stewart FTW. Another one knocked out of the park.

dayo said:
I’m still amazed at just how thin skinned Jon Stewart has acted in all of this. He says he’s a comedian, he plays it for laughs, then why is he acting so angry?

What are you talking about? That was HILARIOUS!

Now, on the other hand you have Bret Baier on Kilmeade’s show the other day. He wasn’t angry, but he was pretty darn thin-skinned.

Skippy said:
“I spoke with Eric and his producer yesterday and we all agree the line was crossed, thus last night’s apology. We now consider the matter closed.”

Okay… and why should he be fired now?

AmericaSucks said:
Interestingly, your attempts at insults are based on things you can’t possibly know are true. Don’t get me wrong. They MIGHT be true. You just have no way of knowing it because you don’t know me.

VERSUS

Skippy said:
Throw her a Big Mac then try to take it away and she becomes rabid.

That is why she calls Bic Macs food and Fux “News”

AmericaSucks said:
Ouch.

That’s odd, AS… I didn’t notice your response to Skippy when he said something he “couldn’t possibly know.” In fact, you didn’t seem too bothered by it. Why is that?

AmericaRules said:
you don’t know me.

Yes, we do. Same idiot in a different sock.

ImNotBlue said:
Okay… and why should he be fired now?

VERSUS

That’s odd, AS… I didn’t notice your response to Skippy when he said something he “couldn’t possibly know.” In fact, you didn’t seem too bothered by it. Why is that?

Um, I responded to what Skippy said by saying “ouch,” which is something I typically say, as many people do, when bothered by something.

Thanks for the concrete reminder about your interpretive skills.

Ouch.

AmericaSucks said:
You just have no way of knowing it because you don’t know me.

It’s very easy to know as a matter of fact.
Once you meet one of the collectivist drones we call “liberal”, you’ve met them all.

Reading these comments, I don’t think Jon Stewart is the one who is thin skinned.

Whorez said:
Yes, we do. Same idiot in a different sock.

Huh?

dayo said:
I’m still amazed at just how thin skinned Jon Stewart has acted in all of this. He says he’s a comedian, he plays it for laughs, then why is he acting so angry?

He filled up another 5:30 of is show entertaining his stonner seal clapping zombies, all thanks to FoxNews and he killed.

What makes you think he’s angry, FoxNews gave him another gift. The gift that keeps on giving.

illusive man said:
It’s very easy to know as a matter of fact.
Once you meet one of the collectivist drones we call “liberal”, you’ve met them all…

… says the young lady whose taken Republic Party elocution classes.

AmericaRules said:
Um

Nuff said.

AmericaSucks said:
… says the young lady whose taken Republic Party elocution classes.

Stupid iPad. “who’s”

Whorez said:
Nuff said.

List of prices/services, please. I’ll be discreet.

AmericaRules said:
Republic Party

*drink*

Jaurez said:
*drink*

Avec plaisir, mon ami.

So is politifact accurate or not righties thats all I want to know:) John Stewart has a show on 4 days a week on the comedy channel and his show is based on satire. Fox news is supposed to be a hard news organization giving you fair and balanced facts. Stewart read a huge list of falsehoods and lies and that politifact checked. Some of them won lies of the year. You seem more concerned about stewart than you do you news channel don’t you find that strange? And im sure if stewart wanted to he could still be reading from that list.

ImNotBlue said:
Okay… and why should he be fired now?

“Guess who’s coming to dinner? A dictator. Mr. Obama shares a laugh with one of Africa’s kleptocrats. It’s not the first time he’s had a hoodlum in the hizzouse.” Plus, there was a photo of Gabon’s leader with a shining tooth and the repeated use of a banner saying, “Hoods in the House.”

“Mistakes by any member of the show team that end up on air may result in immediate disciplinary action against those who played significant roles in the ‘mistake chain,’ and those who supervise them. That may include warning letters to personnel files, suspensions, and other possible actions up to and including termination, and this will all obviously play a role in performance reviews.”

“Do we really have to have (Gabon’s leader) in the White Hizzy?”
-Fox Business’ Sandra Smith

So, according to you, ALL is fine on Fux as long as an apology is issued AFTER the fact, while at other places people have been fired for less.

AmericaSucks said:
Interestingly, your attempts at insults are based on things you can’t possibly know are true. Don’t get me wrong. They MIGHT be true. You just have no way of knowing it because you don’t know me.

On the other hand, when I call you predictably stupid, I do that with some solid evidence. Remember that? Wasn’t that fun when you exposed your ignorance? Hmmm? Wasn’t it?

Let’s see, your response to everything is “Faux Lies” and/or to call names – That means you’re ill informed.

Your name is America Sucks – That means you’re white, pampered, and liberal.

I can tell this because you show no individuality. You’re the same as EVERY other boring progressive out there.

The only thing I can’t tell is your age. If you’re young, it’s normal. Not very original, but normal. If you’re older, it’s sad.

But you’re still hilarious!

Faux Lies!!!

WOW

All these things Politifact says is false is…gasp…THE SAME STUFF I READ IN THE COMMENTS SECTION ON MEDIAITE

I HOPE YOU WERE PAYING ATTENTION DURING THIS SEGMENT CONS (who am I kidding, they never watch the segments before commenting)

slickerwick said:
When I hear “sociopaths” I think of child rapists and serial killers.

Can’t help what you think of. Sociopaths make up about 4% of the population. I think you need to broaden your scope.

As previously mentioned, sociopaths are prevalent in both the crime and domestic aspects of society. They can be neighbors, teachers, CEOs or even friends.[1][page needed] Stout suggests that approximately 4 percent of the population suffers from Antisocial Personality Disorder, which she defines as the “condition of missing a conscience”. With the population of the United States being approximately 310 million and assuming Stout’s prediction is correct, there are over 12 million people that have the potential to be sociopaths within the United States.[7]
[edit] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopaths_in_society

turk281 said:
Let’s see, your response to everything is “Faux Lies” and/or to call names – That means you’re ill informed.

Your name is America Sucks – That means you’re white, pampered, and liberal.

I can tell this because you show no individuality. You’re the same as EVERY other boring progressive out there.

The only thing I can’t tell is your age. If you’re young, it’s normal. Not very original, but normal. If you’re older, it’s sad.

But you’re still hilarious!

Faux Lies!!!

With the exception of quoting you, I don’t think I’ve ever written “Faux Lies!!!” But please correct me if I’m wrong about that.

But here’s the thing: If I AM just a kid, how sad is it for you that this kid has been making you his bitch all night long, sucker?

Give it up. You can’t win. Really.

slickerwick said:
He’s really got a bug up his ass about Fox News. Did he bother to list the lies and goofs of MSNBC? Of course not. But then, he’s just a nonpartisan comedian, right? Did he check Politifact for MSNBC’s lies?

Good point! That’s a really big tell on “I’m not an activist” Stewart’s part. isn’t it?

Who was it that called Stewart a liar? It wasn’t Fox News. It was Politifact.

So who did “I’m not an activist” Stewart attack? Fox News.

Ever since “I’m not an activist” Stewart made a complete ass out of himself over the way reacted to the Weiner scandal, he’s been coming unglued. It’s time to keep the pressure on him.

I got over 20,000 hits on a goofy video I made about Stewart and Weiner on Photobucket and it was linked to by alot of political and entertainment websites that I had never heard of. It’s time to give Stewart some of his own treatment. He obviously doesn’t handle it so well.

turk281 said:
That means you’re white, pampered, and liberal.

It’s more than likely very unsuccessful.

AmericaSucks said:
Huh?

don’t you guys feel great? we’ve helped this young man get the attention that he isn’t getting from his parents! i bet he will be feeling good when he does his chores tomorrow and everyone on mediaite should pat themselves on the back! this is what crowdsource babysitting is all about!

AmericaSucks said:
Um, I responded to what Skippy said by saying “ouch,” which is something I typically say, as many people do, when bothered by something.

Thanks for the concrete reminder about your interpretive skills.

Ouch.

Oh, I”m sorry. I was confused since you gave a lecture to Turk… but only an “Ouch” to Skippy. Silly me… I didn’t realize the two were equal.

Feh.

insideguy said:
So is politifact accurate or not righties thats all I want to know:) John Stewart has a show on 4 days a week on the comedy channel and his show is based on satire. Fox news is supposed to be a hard news organization giving you fair and balanced facts. Stewart read a huge list of falsehoods and lies and that politifact checked. Some of them won lies of the year. You seem more concerned about stewart than you do you news channel don’t you find that strange? And im sure if stewart wanted to he could still be reading from that list.

Do you think it is reasonable to expect a news network to get every single fact, of every single minute of live programming correct, every day of the year? Or… are they human, and occasionally make mistakes which they the correct? And do you hold ALL networks to this standard?

Skippy said:
So, according to you, ALL is fine on Fux as long as an apology is issued AFTER the fact, while at other places people have been fired for less.

So where was the lie? Or is it just that you didn’t like the phrasing… and is that the same thing as what you were complaining about a minute ago?

And who has been fired for less?

Alice67 said:
So to you it’s anti-American to see the gridlock, dysfunction, dishonesty, greed, corruption and disregard for one’s fellow man and conclude that every bit of it sucks. What you refuse to look at and deny does not just go away. The much less loving thing is to pretend it doesn’t exist and try to wrap it up in some sick form of patriotism.

People who are not anti-American are not necessarily patriotic. But thank you for playing.
So you choose to sum up America in that little diatribe of yours. I’ll ask you the same question I asked America Sucks. Do you live in this country? If you do, why? Which country would you prefer to live in?
He was unable to answer those simple questions. You want to try?

Since America is so god-awful, I take it you won’t bother voting in the next election. Why bother? Since Obama is the President of this sucky country you must despise him, too, right? He’s launched a third war without Congressional approval, etc.

I’d love to know where the left will turn, what they will do. Have you taken to the barricades and armed yourselves for the revolution or do you just comment on internet forums and do nothing constructive to change this awful, sucky country?

Jaurez said:
It’s more than likely very unsuccessful.

You’d be surprised how much a doctor makes, even under Obamneycare…

Sure is fun getting down to your level, though. Or, as educated folks call it, “condescending.” As the old saying goes, I stoop to conquer. I used to come to this site and just get bored and discouraged. But once I decided to act like the rest of you bottom-feeders, I really could see the appeal. It’s a little bit like slumming, or sleeping with fat chicks. (I assume you’d know all about that, right?)

AmericaSucks said:
What are you talking about? That was HILARIOUS!

I think, based on previous interviews/exchanges the two have had, Chris Wallace was expecting a lighter hearted interview, with comedic banter between the two – which I have seen between them before. This time Jon just seemed angry throughout the segment.

Jon Stewart. Not funny. If he keeps going after Fox, he’ll be the one whose ratings drop.

AmericaSucks said:
But here’s the thing: If I AM just a kid, how sad is it for you that this kid has been making you his bitch all night long, sucker?

By that logic, all the left-wingers who complain about FNC and say their viewers are dumb, how sad is it for them? If FNC is so bad, why would they worry?

ImNotBlue said:
Oh, I”m sorry. I was confused since you gave a lecture to Turk… but only an “Ouch” to Skippy. Silly me… I didn’t realize the two were equal.

Feh.

Do you think it is reasonable to expect a news network to get every single fact, of every single minute of live programming correct, every day of the year? Or… are they human, and occasionally make mistakes which they the correct? And do you hold ALL networks to this standard?

So where was the lie? Or is it just that you didn’t like the phrasing… and is that the same thing as what you were complaining about a minute ago?

And who has been fired for less?

Zzzzzzz…..

Are you this pointlessly long-winded in person, or do you save it up for Mediaite?

dayo said:
I think, based on previous interviews/exchanges the two have had, Chris Wallace was expecting a lighter hearted interview, with comedic banter between the two – which I have seen between them before. This time Jon just seemed angry throughout the segment.

Perhaps. He just didn’t seem all that angry to me.

AmericaSucks said:
You’d be surprised how much a doctor makes, even under Obamneycare…

Sure is fun getting down to your level, though. Or, as educated folks call it, “condescending.” As the old saying goes, I stoop to conquer. I used to come to this site and just get bored and discouraged. But once I decided to act like the rest of you bottom-feeders, I really could see the appeal. It’s a little bit like slumming, or sleeping with fat chicks. (I assume you’d know all about that, right?)

point on the doll where the big bad neocons touched you…

how did you teach your vagina to type?

ImNotBlue said:
By that logic, all the left-wingers who complain about FNC and say their viewers are dumb, how sad is it for them? If FNC is so bad, why would they worry?

My guess is that they’re not really all that worried. They just enjoy yanking your chain.

jddoubleu said:
point on the doll where the big bad neocons touched you…

how did you teach your vagina to type?

Your mother laid hands on me and I was blessed with this talent.

Her hands felt GREAT, too.

AmericaRules said:
Sure is fun getting down to your level, though. Or, as educated folks call it, “condescending.” As the old saying goes, I stoop to conquer. I used to come to this site and just get bored and discouraged. But once I decided to act like the rest of you bottom-feeders, I really could see the appeal. It’s a little bit like slumming, or sleeping with fat chicks. (I assume you’d know all about that, right?)

Are you this pointlessly long-winded in person, or do you save it up for Mediaite, “doctor?”

Jaurez said:
Are you this pointlessly long-winded in person, or do you save it up for Mediaite, “doctor?”

I save it up, son.

AmericaSucks said:
Your mother laid hands on me and I was blessed with this talent.

Her hands felt GREAT, too.

you want to try again? that was really weak. like grade school weak…

Alice67 said:
Can’t help what you think of. Sociopaths make up about 4% of the population. I think you need to broaden your scope.

As previously mentioned, sociopaths are prevalent in both the crime and domestic aspects of society. They can be neighbors, teachers, CEOs or even friends.[1][page needed] Stout suggests that approximately 4 percent of the population suffers from Antisocial Personality Disorder, which she defines as the “condition of missing a conscience”. With the population of the United States being approximately 310 million and assuming Stout’s prediction is correct, there are over 12 million people that have the potential to be sociopaths within the United States.[7]
[edit] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopaths_in_society

You type some of the stupidest things imaginable. Is that your word of the day and you had to use it in a paragraph?
Honestly Alice – for an old broad you sure are gullible.

Fox is a lying machine. How else do you get the sheep to vote against their better interest?

jddoubleu said:
you want to try again? that was really weak. like grade school weak…

No sense in wasting B material on you, little lady. That vagina line of yours was GREAT, though.

OxyCon said:
If he wasn’t Mr. Clown Nose on/off, Politifact would have a field day with Stewart’s activist lies and deceit.
Perhaps Politifact should pay more attention to Stewart. He definitely deserves to be knocked down a few pegs.

I’ll see what I can so in that regard. I usually get some good results.

YES! We don’t want any decent in our comics. They must toe the party line.

Yoda002 said:
Fox is a lying machine. How else do you get the sheep to vote against their better interest?

Because we believe in “earning” our interest instead of stealing it from someone else. What a concept! Try it, you might like it. (well maybe not – sitting on your duff all these years seems to be working just fine for you)

Alice67 said:
Can’t help what you think of. Sociopaths make up about 4% of the population. I think you need to broaden your scope.

As previously mentioned, sociopaths are prevalent in both the crime and domestic aspects of society. They can be neighbors, teachers, CEOs or even friends.[1][page needed] Stout suggests that approximately 4 percent of the population suffers from Antisocial Personality Disorder, which she defines as the “condition of missing a conscience”. With the population of the United States being approximately 310 million and assuming Stout’s prediction is correct, there are over 12 million people that have the potential to be sociopaths within the United States.[7]
[edit] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopaths_in_society

And it sounds like you might be one of them. You obviously have a fixation and engage in hyperbole with your comment that Fox News is the “center of the sociopathic universe.” That sounds like the kind of statement a loon would utter.

ImNotBlue said:

So where was the lie? Or is it just that you didn’t like the phrasing… and is that the same thing as what you were complaining about a minute ago?

And who has been fired for less?

- Limpo
- Imus

And the lie was that Bolling is still employed by Fux EVEN after a whole history of lies and racial remarks.

That is the lie. Fox lies, lets its talking heads run amok and then they pretend they have “fixed” the problem by issuing half-arsed apologies.

So, are you going to defend Bolling?

OxyCon said:
Good point! That’s a really big tell on “I’m not an activist” Stewart’s part. isn’t it?

Who was it that called Stewart a liar? It wasn’t Fox News. It was Politifact.

So who did “I’m not an activist” Stewart attack? Fox News.

I’m not surprised you missed the point.

He was confirming his statement that FoxNews continually misinforms their viewers, and go figure, they are lies that support the right wingnut agenda.

He used Politifact to do it because Politifact “debunking” Stewart’s statement on FoxNews has covered the right wingnut bloggosphere who are also staunch FoxNews supporters as well on FoxNews themselves.

He and his writers are comedy geniuses.

AmericaSucks said:
No sense in wasting B material on you, little lady. That vagina line of yours was GREAT, though.

Ah, and now we get misogyny. Gotta love it. Keep those statements coming. You are a shining example of liberalism.

“Pretend,” keyword! That’s all you need to know about Stewart. He’s pretentious but funny!

jddoubleu said:
guess you blew your wad too early. im sure you are used to failure.

Nope. Haven’t experienced too much of it, though I do worry, at times, that some of the stink from folks like you might wash off on me. Luckily I can afford a hell of a lot of cleanser.

AmericaSucks said:
Perhaps. He just didn’t seem all that angry to me.

Well he obviously seemed angry to others also, because there have been a # of comments about it – also the mediaite headline.

No ImNotBlue I don’t expect a news organization to get every fact straight. But when they get their facts wrong they should advise their audience of that otherwise that may stain their credibility a little don’t ya think?

AmericaSucks said:
Nope. Haven’t experienced too much of it, though I do worry, at times, that some of the stink from folks like you might wash off on me. Luckily I can afford a hell of a lot of cleanser.

got a bump from social services eh?

slickerwick said:
Ah, and now we get misogyny. Gotta love it. Keep those statements coming. You are a shining example of liberalism.

What? You didn’t get on jddoubleau’s case for her misogynistic “vagina” line? I’m shocked–SHOCKED, I tell you–to find that you’re a hypocrite.

But I’m truly sorry to have offended you, miss.

Yoda002 said:
Fox is a lying machine. How else do you get the sheep to vote against their better interest?

Well, with that kind of attitude you libs have toward the voters, I’m not surprised they’re becoming ever more repelled by your ideology.

AmericaSucks said:
Nicely put, Alice. The “sick form of patriotism” line is an especially nice touch. 10/10

Well, I just happen to like your username and reason for it. We are a country in deep crisis.

jddoubleu said:
got a bump from social services eh?

Let’s trade private email addresses; I’ll send you a copy of my pay stub if you send me a copy of yours. We’ll make a small wager–$100, let’s say–about who’s the better earner. I’ll donate the hundred to Planned Parenthood in your name.

AmericaSucks said:
You’d be surprised how much a doctor makes, even under Obamneycare…

Sure is fun getting down to your level, though. Or, as educated folks call it, “condescending.” As the old saying goes, I stoop to conquer. I used to come to this site and just get bored and discouraged. But once I decided to act like the rest of you bottom-feeders, I really could see the appeal. It’s a little bit like slumming, or sleeping with fat chicks. (I assume you’d know all about that, right?)

More misogyny. Keep it up. Your true colors are showing.

PolitiFact got seriously dressed down over this—in particular, over their failure to distinguish between “misinformed” and “uninformed.” Stewart and the polls don’t say that FOX News viewers don’t receive information; they say that FOX viewers receive incorrect information. There’s a world of difference between the two.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2011/jun/21/readers-sound-about-our-false-jon-stewart/

Such ineptitude is inexplicable. Did PolitiFact toss a softball to FOX?

turk281 said:
So Fox won the biggest lie of the year two years in a row, and their viewers still aren’t the most misinformed?

That’s not exactly the way it turned out. Jon’s statement was false only because of his words, CONSISTENTLY in EVERY poll. Turns out they are they lowest in some polls and merely low, but not the lowest, in other polls. Not exactly bragging rights. Politifact also left out the left out the poll that Wall Street Journal did about the people’s knowledge about the health care bill. Fox, …most misinformed, by a lot.

Alice67 said:
Well, I just happen to like your username and reason for it. We are a country in deep crisis.

You really don’t belong here, Alice–you seem to be capable of thoughtful analysis. It’s too late for me, but run! Save yourself!!

He gets so many comments because you righties cant handle him. Its like he’s blowing your minds with to much logic. He’s Mr. Spock and you guys are Doctor Mccoy.

Alice67 said:
We are a country in deep crisis.

Agreed. Thanks obama!

slickerwick said:
More misogyny. Keep it up. Your true colors are showing.

Your faux outrage is deeply touching to me.

seek said:
Because we believe in “earning” our interest instead of stealing it from someone else. What a concept! Try it, you might like it. (well maybe not – sitting on your duff all these years seems to be working just fine for you)

How’s that been working out for you? Are you getting that trickle down effect? You’ve been pulling yourself up by your bootstraps? Keeping on thinking that way, that’s the whole point.

So, all you conservative posters who so gleefully and quickly posted Politifact calling Jon’s claim false, are you still doing the happy feet dance? because it seems to me the tune has definitely changed.

AmericaSucks said:
That content has long ago been dispensed and dealt with. No need to pile on.

Am I not merciful?

TYT?

CosmosDan said:
So, all you conservative posters who so gleefully and quickly posted Politifact calling Jon’s claim false, are you still doing the happy feet dance? because it seems to me the tune has definitely changed.

In your head maybe.

Yea Cosmos they are in crisis, in order to help them they will tune on one of Glenns last shows get some warm milk and suck their thumbs until they fall asleep and dream about how great the country was in 1794.

slickerwick said:
Well, with that kind of attitude you libs have toward the voters, I’m not surprised they’re becoming ever more repelled by your ideology.

Keep on marching like a good little soldier while they lie to your face.

ModerateMan said:
PolitiFact is not MediaMatters, but it is definitely a left leaning organization. Much like CNN is left leaning but not bat guana crazy like MSNBC. For Stewart to deem them the arbiters of truth is misleading and …..well….. not factual.

Oh for crying out loud. He did no such thing. Yesterday conservative posters were happy as pigs in crap and eager to post that poltifact said Jon Stewart was wrong. Jon isn’t claiming they’re the arbiters of truth, He’s just putting some amazing perspective on the fact they called him false.

LeviCoultify said:
TYT?

Gladiator.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpoqoBAItY4

Paul G said:
Why do I even bother looking at this site after midnight…Alice67, inside and now this moron AmericaSucks….ALL of them making 7 cents double time cubicle diaper wearing babies….

Ah, office life. Some folks working in cubicles, others at the counter waiting in line to collect their unemployment cheques.

AmericaSucks said:
Let’s trade private email addresses; I’ll send you a copy of my pay stub if you send me a copy of yours. We’ll make a small wager–$100, let’s say–about who’s the better earner. I’ll donate the hundred to Planned Parenthood in your name.

ok deal! ill donate $1000 to PP but only if they use it to abort lib’s babies.

slickerwick said:
In your head maybe.

Nope, in reality, based on some facts. Keep in mind I’m speaking to all those conservative posters who so happily used politifact to diss Jon.

Paul G said:
Why do I even bother looking at this site after midnight…Alice67, inside and now this moron AmericaSucks….ALL of them making 7 cents double time cubicle diaper wearing babies….

Yea man, totally.. you better leave before they convert you to their crazy liberal ways. COVER YOUR EYES!!

AmericaSucks said:
Gladiator.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpoqoBAItY4

Aha, just curious if you ever watch Cenk, he uses that soundbite a lot.

jddoubleu said:
ok deal! ill donate $1000 to PP but only if they use it to abort lib’s babies.

I’m good with that. Would you be willing to make just ONE exception to that rule, just in case Santorum’s wife needs another one?

This is pretty sweet. Jon can take all the shots he wants against Fox and their isn’t much they can do about it without looking like CNN when they fact-checked a SNL skit. This isn’t like the Obama/Fox feud at all, which had much bigger issues behind it.

It proves the old adage…

“Don’t get into a war with someone who buys ink by the …err….comedy barrel.”

LeviCoultify said:
Yea man, totally.. you better leave before they convert you to their crazy liberal ways. COVER YOUR EYES!!

Aha, just curious if you ever watch Cenk, he uses that soundbite a lot.

So I hear. :-)

Paul G said:
Why do I even bother looking at this site after midnight…Alice67, inside and now this moron AmericaSucks….ALL of them making 7 cents double time cubicle diaper wearing babies….

alice/ellen kills people for a living and if you saw the unibomber approved shack she lives in, you’d know why she is at the cybercafe posting on mediaita all night.

bradmcneal said:
Gad, I love to see smug combined with low intelligence.

you have a mirror handy then?

You’re talking one poll. Look at them in groups and then talk statistics.

Paul G said:
Why do I even bother looking at this site after midnight…Alice67, inside and now this moron AmericaSucks….ALL of them making 7 cents double time cubicle diaper wearing babies….

Is the heat getting too hot for you?

I support you not bothering to ever visit this site Paul G your contributions to the debates are not interesting or challenging. You can go over to The Blaze and wallow in the misery and end of the world theories , I think you would be much happier.

insideguy said:
So is politifact accurate or not righties thats all I want to know:) John Stewart has a show on 4 days a week on the comedy channel and his show is based on satire. Fox news is supposed to be a hard news organization giving you fair and balanced facts. Stewart read a huge list of falsehoods and lies and that politifact checked. Some of them won lies of the year. You seem more concerned about stewart than you do you news channel don’t you find that strange? And im sure if stewart wanted to he could still be reading from that list.

It’s much easier to say Politifact is bs. Their coping mechanisms are strong. I’m betting even intervention wouldn’t work.

AmericaSucks said:
I’m good with that. Would you be willing to make just ONE exception to that rule, just in case Santorum’s wife needs another one?

nah he’s got enough of his own money. so im standing by for your scan…

jddoubleu said:
ok deal! ill donate $1000 to PP but only if they use it to abort lib’s babies.

Babykiller. You make Jesus sad.

jddoubleu said:
nah he’s got enough of his own money. so im standing by for your scan…

Sure thing. I can just download a pdf of it. E-mail address, please.

Not many liberals agreed that Jon even needed to apologize:

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2011/jun/21/readers-sound-about-our-false-jon-stewart/

their outrage will subside now that Jon has pointed out how often Fox has been the subject of their scrutiny.

Yesterday: Politifact is stupid!

Today: Politifact is great!

LeviCoultify said:
Babykiller. You make Jesus sad.

jesus was a terrorist.

jddoubleu said:
jesus was a terrorist.

Now you’re talking!

I think you mixed that up BarneyFranken for you righties its the other way around:)

Paul G said:
Are you ‘double’ dipping with your cubicle gloryhole money? or does your mommy not ask “Who all are your ‘new friends’ …Moron

Sorry, my gibberish-to-English translator isn’t working right now, so I can’t understand what you’re saying. I’ll try again later, and will reply once I’ve got a good working translation.

Jackyboy said:
Nice going Stewart, instead of owning up to your mistake you decide to point the fingers back at Fox to make yourself feel better.

Holy crap, he was way over your head wasn’t he? He did own up to his mistake. and THEN, he pointed out that the same non partisan group called Fox false, and liars of the year, many many times. Those are the facts. So for those conservatives giving poltifact credibility so they can slam Jon, here’s a long list you ought to consider.

His point being , yet again, Sure , I was technically incorrect, {he read his own quote} and sometimes I am, and I have bno problem admitting it, but as a comedy show, I don’t really need credibility concerning being spot on factual. A news network needs credibility by their job description, so let’s see how this same group rates them.

Ouch, that’s gotta smart.

AmericaSucks said:
Sure thing. I can just download a pdf of it. E-mail address, please.

jddoubleu@mailinator.com

BarneyFranken said:
Yesterday: Politifact is stupid!

I really didn’t hear anyone from the left attacking Politifact yesterday. Instead they chose to focus on the fact that Fox still had pretty low numbers overall.

Stop lying. Attacking Politifact is your guys deal. You never liked it after it gave “Pants on fire” to the claim the earth was 6000 years old.

CosmosDan said:
Holy crap, he was way over your head wasn’t he? He did own up to his mistake. and THEN, he pointed out that the same non partisan group called Fox false, and liars of the year, many many times. Those are the facts. So for those conservatives giving poltifact credibility so they can slam Jon, here’s a long list you ought to consider.

His point being , yet again, Sure , I was technically incorrect, {he read his own quote} and sometimes I am, and I have bno problem admitting it, but as a comedy show, I don’t really need credibility concerning being spot on factual. A news network needs credibility by their job description, so let’s see how this same group rates them.

Ouch, that’s gotta smart.

You missed it earlier, but for the sake of some of the dummies on here you’ll need to explain what you mean by “ouch.”

Sadly, I am not kidding about this.

jddoubleu said:
jddoubleu@mailinator.com

Ok, stay tuned.

Oh the 6000 year old claim should have got the your house is on fire,your dog is on fire and you are on fire from Politifact:)

BFD said:
I really didn’t hear anyone from the left attacking Politifact yesterday. Instead they chose to focus on the fact that Fox still had pretty low numbers overall.

Stop lying. Attacking Politifact is your guys deal. You never liked it after it gave “Pants on fire” to the claim the earth was 6000 years old.

You tell’em Joe. Btw, I hear you’re better if you just “wing it”, is this true?

Hey, sorry. No dummy e-mail addresses, please. Last time I used one of those my computer did not like it. I’ll settle for a yahoo/hotmail/gmail address, though.

I am embarrassed for Jon Stewart.  I thought he was a bigger man than that.  He should have never made those slanderous remarks, but once made he should have apologized (a real apology).

Sadly, he will not be able to weather this storm of his own making. The storm he created this weekend and then subsequently intensified tonight.

Hopefully, it was his writer’s that intentionally fed him false information and the only thing Jon is guilty of is senstionalism, conflict and laziness.

AmericaSucks said:
Hey, sorry. No dummy e-mail addresses, please. Last time I used one of those my computer did not like it. I’ll settle for a yahoo/hotmail/gmail address, though.

so you fail at computer too? its a valid email.

Dem4Ever said:
I am embarrassed for Jon Stewart.  I thought he was a bigger man than that.  He should have never made those slanderous remarks, but once made he should have apologized (a real apology).

Sadly, he will not be able to weather this storm of his own making. The storm he created this weekend and then subsequently intensified tonight.

Hopefully, it was his writer’s that intentionally fed him false information and the only thing Jon is guilty of is senstionalism, conflict and laziness.

Oh I see what you did thar.. or at least tried to do. Keep thinking, it’ll come to you.

ImNotBlue said:
Who would have thought that Jon Stewart would be written up less times than a 24-hour news network?

So the fact that Fox got pants on fire two years running, was just an little slip up, they made a mistake.

See, Jon also mentioned acknowledging and correcting the error, as he did. Of the errors on that list, how many do you think Fox has corrected. They’ve been discussed on this board many times.

By the way, have you even looked in either of Jon’s books?

jddoubleu said:
so you fail at computer too? its a valid email.

he’s busy for the next 10 mins…..

CosmosDan said:
So the fact that Fox got pants on fire two years running, was just an little slip up, they made a mistake.

See, Jon also mentioned acknowledging and correcting the error, as he did. Of the errors on that list, how many do you think Fox has corrected. They’ve been discussed on this board many times.

By the way, have you even looked in either of Jon’s books?

Plus the thing isn’t about slip ups, FOX deliberately makes up false claims for political reasons, that’s just pure propaganda.

Gasket said:
I’m pretty sure rights are God given.

I’m just glad God eventually freed the slaves. Why do you suppose he waited so long? And that woman’s right to vote thing. Maybe we could pray and ask him to reconsider that one.

jddoubleu said:
so you fail at computer too? its a valid email.

I’d prefer something more secure, obviously. It’s not like I’ll be sending you a love note.

I feel sorry for you Dem4Ever as you sit in front of your FOX and shake your head up and down in agreement as they feed you one falsehood after another. LoL and what storm are you referring to? The storm where Jon made a statement that was a little wrong and the host didn’t challenge him on? Or the lighting,thunder,hail,rain, and wind storm that he brought down on your coveted “news” channel tonight?

Fox lies, You want proof, you got it.

CosmosDan said:
I’m just glad God eventually freed the slaves. Why do you suppose he waited so long? And that woman’s right to vote thing. Maybe we could pray and ask him to reconsider that one.

Listen, God can’t do everything all at once, you know. It’s not like he’s omnipotent.

Wait a minute…

BFD said:
I really didn’t hear anyone from the left attacking Politifact yesterday. Instead they chose to focus on the fact that Fox still had pretty low numbers overall. Stop lying. Attacking Politifact is your guys deal. You never liked it after it gave “Pants on fire” to the claim the earth was 6000 years old.

BFD, you are an idiot- the link I included is all about liberals complaining directly to politifact:

“When we gave a False rating to a statement by Daily Show host Jon Stewart, the response from readers was swift and virtually unanimous. They said we were wrong.”

There is a whole thread full of comments about this from yesterday’s story too:

Hank10303 said:
“The analysis is worth a read, and broken down in significant detail, but the conclusion is this: Fox viewers may not be the best informed, but they aren’t the most misinformed:..” I think Politicfact has been leaning right in the past year. From looking at the Chart/list for News has the lowest scores across the board than any other news media outlet. For example, the 2007 poll can be read as: 65% of Fox Viewers were NOT “hightly, moderately or low LEVEL” informed viewers. That is a clear indication that 65 percent of them are dumb. Politicfact can’t hide that fact from the very poll they attempted to twist.

Once again, you are wrong- and an ass at the same time- a bad combination.

AmericaSucks said:
I’d prefer something more secure, obviously. It’s not like I’ll be sending you a love note.

so you think im going to keep it confidential? lmao

just post it to flickr and link it.

LeviCoultify said:
well that’s just rude. You blow your father with that mouth?

Nice.

slickerwick said:
People who are not anti-American are not necessarily patriotic. But thank you for playing.
So you choose to sum up America in that little diatribe of yours. I’ll ask you the same question I asked America Sucks. Do you live in this country? If you do, why? Which country would you prefer to live in?
He was unable to answer those simple questions. You want to try?

Yes.
It is my country and I love it.
I’ve often thought Paris would be nice for a while when I was painting.

slickerwick said:
Since America is so god-awful, I take it you won’t bother voting in the next election. Why bother? Since Obama is the President of this sucky country you must despise him, too, right? He’s launched a third war without Congressional approval, etc.

See, this is where it goes from our discussing what I’ve said to where you are projecting what you think I meant. My criticism of my country is not only possible but necessary if I am to love my country fully. You’ll find I never said “god-awful nor did I say anything about despising anything. I prefer to discuss things from a place of reality.

slickerwick said:
I’d love to know where the left will turn, what they will do. Have you taken to the barricades and armed yourselves for the revolution or do you just comment on internet forums and do nothing constructive to change this awful, sucky country?

Sounds like a very fright-centered and reactionary approach to healing a country in crisis.

jddoubleu said:
so you think im going to keep it confidential? lmao

just post it to flickr and link it.

I thought we had a relationship built on mutual trust and respect. So much for that.

On a happy note, I’ve saved my personal information from being broadcast on the Intertubes and you’ve saved $100. Not that you’d have been able to pay it.

It’s been fun. I hope you’ll launch baseless attacks against me again in the near future.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
FOX NEWS, the most trusted name in news. Deal with it libs. They ain’t goin anywhere!

Is it a good thing that the ones with all the lies are the most trusted?

so, would you like to congratulate poltifact now for doing such a great job exposing falsehoods. Com’on, go ahead, you can do it. After all, you’re all about logic and facts right?

Paul G said:
Ummmm….Yoda, I respect you becuz you’re one of the FEW idiots that keeps their name here…
But you’ve read my posts….do you REALLY think it’s getting too hot for me? You know I hold my own.

I appreciate that you have respect that I don’t change my name here, but you could’ve left off the idiot part. Sometime I feel you can’t take the heat. I like a good righty that can take it as much as dish it out.

Paul G said:
No. But AmericaSucks will prob do you and ur dad for a ‘cut’ price….

No, sorry. That deal was only good during the spring. It’s summer now.

But the good news is that, as my name suggests, it’ll be all of America doing the sucking.

Checking on Stewarts’ examples, he seems to be misleading.

The “accumulated more debt than previous presidents combined” for example, came from Sarah Palin in an interview she did with Greta Van Susteren promoting her bus tour. Not exactly a Fox News story touting that as true and we’re all aware that other organizations don’t make a habit of fact checking all the things their interviewed people say. Attributing that to “Fox News” is like saying MSNBC lied when Anthony Weiner said he didn’t send that tweet. Furthermore, Politifact goes on to say that had she referred to the budget he proposed, like Eric Cantor did, then her statement would be true.

The, “Muslim brotherhood.. war against Israel” claim seems to be a technicality. Recognized “top officials” in the Muslim Brotherhood have not said openly they want to go to war, but they’ve said they don’t recognize Israel and they will revisit the peace treaty. Muhammed Ghannem did in fact say that people should prepare for war with Israel. Politifact’s beef seems to be that they’ve spoke to 4 guys who don’t know who that guy is, so they say it’s false. The Jerusalem Post called him a “leading member” so this is basically their word against 4 guys Politifact asked.

I’m sure there is more but it’s late and I don’t feel like breaking each one down. I’ll add that those two examples didn’t come from the hard news shows and I’m sure most of them don’t.

AmericaSucks said:
Nice.

I have some major schoolyard shit-talking talents :P

Paul G said:
No. But AmericaSucks will prob do you and ur dad for a ‘cut’ price….

Personal experience I presume.

CosmosDan said:
Is it a good thing that the ones with all the lies are the most trusted?

IIRC, I had some decent discussions with you back when I posted on here. I’m surprised you seem to be implying that Fox is the only one with all the “lies.”

AmericaSucks said:
I thought we had a relationship built on mutual trust and respect. So much for that.

On a happy note, I’ve saved my personal information from being broadcast on the Intertubes and you’ve saved $100. Not that you’d have been able to pay it.

It’s been fun. I hope you’ll launch baseless attacks against me again in the near future.

its not baseless, i know i make more than you.

LeviCoultify said:

Personal experience I presume.

Trust me: the way he and his dad are packing, doing 2 for the price of 1 just seemed like an act of good Christian charity.

AmericaSucks said:
I thought we had a relationship built on mutual trust and respect. So much for that.

On a happy note, I’ve saved my personal information from being broadcast on the Intertubes and you’ve saved $100. Not that you’d have been able to pay it.

It’s been fun. I hope you’ll launch baseless attacks against me again in the near future.

What kind of info are you guys exchanging?… or trying to, just curious

ImNotBlue said:
By that logic, all the left-wingers who complain about FNC and say their viewers are dumb, how sad is it for them? If FNC is so bad, why would they worry?

Because they’re illinformed and vote!

Jackyboy said:
Nice going Stewart, instead of owning up to your mistake you decide to point the fingers back at Fox to make yourself feel better. You know I honestly thought Stewart was better than this bush-league pandering; I would expect this from any commentator on cable news but not Stewart. I guess he is starting to show his true colors.

Stewart is no comedian. He is a liberal commentator who happens to be funny once in a while.

are you kidding me, he did apologize and read his own quote. all he did was read Fox “news” lies that were not apologized for, and as a so called NEWS organization, fact checking and giving out pure facts should be top priority. It is not Jon Stewart’s obligation to the public to even apologize for what he said, and if Fox news or any other so called news organization is going to compare itself to a comedian or even a COMEDY station the way Chris Wallace did then our media is worse than ever

Sarah Palin is being paid by fox news as a contributor Haimerej. If she says something that stupid then they should either correct it or fire her.

AmericaSucks said:
Trust me: the way he and his dad are packing, doing 2 for the price of 1 just seemed like an act of good Christian charity.

lol.. “the lord giveth.. and put it in his ass”

insideguy said:
Sarah Palin is being paid by fox news as a contributor Haimerej. If she says something that stupid then they should either correct it or fire her.

That reminds me where is the Palin lady?

BarneyFranken said:
BFD, you are an idiot- the link I included is all about liberals complaining directly to politifact:

Wow, I see them intelligently disagreeing with a particular finding but I don’t see them calling Politifact stupid.

Once again, that’s your guys dealeo.

AmericaSucks said:
No, sorry. That deal was only good during the spring. It’s summer now.

But the good news is that, as my name suggests, it’ll be all of America doing the sucking.

Haimerej said:
IIRC, I had some decent discussions with you back when I posted on here. I’m surprised you seem to be implying that Fox is the only one with all the “lies.”

they’re just posting for the nickel a post….I’m just having fun with them….,maybe they can buy a beer in 10hrs. (although me thinks ‘AmericaSucks ‘ has the ‘one up with his GH…..

seek said:
You type some of the stupidest things imaginable. Is that your word of the day and you had to use it in a paragraph?
Honestly Alice – for an old broad you sure are gullible.

Some day you will be free of me and I will leave that special place in your head alone.

But not today.

Now why would I get a thumbs down on that last comment to Haimerej. She is a paid employee of FOX news yet is allowed to make a false statement about the Debt without being challenged or corrected seems like there is a problem there.

Yoda002 said:
That reminds me where is the Palin lady?

She’s on that cross country Valtrex-sponsored Christian-rock band tour thing..

jddoubleu said:
its not baseless, i know i make more than you.

Well, you don’t KNOW it, just as I don’t KNOW that I earn more than you. But I’ll be honest: my salary is well into six figures and I hold a handful of investment properties and own an internationally-known small business as well. Not a BIG business, to be sure, but with a sterling reputation in North America and Europe. So I do o.k. No George Soros, mind you, but not so bad.

If you earn more than me, then more power to you. I guess we’ll never know. But contrary to your original assertion, a “failure” I am not.

Paul G said:
they’re just posting for the nickel a post….I’m just having fun with them….,maybe they can buy a beer in 10hrs. (although me thinks ‘AmericaSucks ‘ has the ‘one up with his GH…..

) sry lol

Also, I was talking about here. Yesterday Mediaite libs did NOT go into knee-jerk attack or smear campaign against Politifact.

That’s what conservatives do when Politifact finds against their side. Not us.

Paul G said:
they’re just posting for the nickel a post….I’m just having fun with them….,maybe they can buy a beer in 10hrs. (although me thinks ‘AmericaSucks ‘ has the ‘one up with his GH…..

A nickel, thats it? At least some of use are getting a dime. You got to know who to work for.

slickerwick said:
That sounds like the kind of statement a loon would utter.

You should see the way I glide across the lake.

insideguy said:
Sarah Palin is being paid by fox news as a contributor Haimerej. If she says something that stupid then they should either correct it or fire her.

I don’t think she was “contributing” so much as being interviewed about her bus tour. I think there’s a difference between being interviewed and being a pundit.

I’m not saying she was right, but I think you can find just as many “lies” for other news organizations as you can for Fox. Which to me, makes Stewart’s claims of not being activist seem pretty shallow. You can’t say he goes after MSNBC with as much vigor as he does Fox. They’re just as error prone and ideological as Fox is.

Yoda002 said:
A nickel, thats it? At least some of use are getting a dime. You got to know who to work for.

hehehhe …sry.

Paul G said:
hehehhe …sry.

Be nice, I’m not that low rent.

BFD said:
Wow, I see them intelligently disagreeing with a particular finding but I don’t see them calling Politifact stupid. Once again, that’s your guys dealeo.

You are right, they didnt flat out call politifact stupid. They just inferred it. I thought you were smart enough to understand implied meanings but I guess I was wrong.

Here let me amend it just for you:

Yesterday: Politifact is wrong!

Today: Politifact is right!

feel better now?

insideguy said:
Now why would I get a thumbs down on that last comment to Haimerej. She is a paid employee of FOX news yet is allowed to make a false statement about the Debt without being challenged or corrected seems like there is a problem there.

I’ll let you know I didn’t do it. But again, the comment came when she was sitting on a bus one on one with Greta. I think it’s a tad unreasonable to think Greta has to sit there, on a bus, and fact check everything Sarah says. Could she have checked it later? Sure. But I seriously doubt that Sarah Palin said that and the people who care what she says were like, “Really??? Well, that’s the last straw! I’m not voting Obama come next election!”

Nacho said:
He used Politifact to do it because Politifact “debunking” Stewart’s statement on FoxNews has covered the right wingnut bloggosphere who are also staunch FoxNews supporters as well on FoxNews themselves.

He and his writers are comedy geniuses.

Yes Poltifact legitimizes itself by fact checking Stewart then Stewart shows the right how their new best ally rates Fox. Beautiful.

AmericaSucks said:
Well, you don’t KNOW it, just as I don’t KNOW that I earn more than you. But I’ll be honest: my salary is well into six figures and I hold a handful of investment properties and own an internationally-known small business as well. Not a BIG business, to be sure, but with a sterling reputation in North America and Europe. So I do o.k. No George Soros, mind you, but not so bad. If you earn more than me, then more power to you. I guess we’ll never know. But contrary to your original assertion, a “failure” I am not.

Yay Capitalism!!!

Oh you are really cutting hairs there my friend haimerej. See this is the funny thing about fox who the hell is a contributor and who’s on a bus tour and being interviewed as a non contributor. And what was the interviewer doing when she said this dumb propaganda? Was Greta there to just Chat and let her make false comments? And that comment she made is not a little lie its a huge lie, its outright foolish. So Bill O when he is on his show has to say things accurately but when he’s on a book tour he can say any stupid thing he wants while being interviewed by Hannity about the book, without being challenged? Ahhhh i get it Ill scratch your back and you scratch mine:)

Haimerej said:
You can’t say he goes after MSNBC with as much vigor as he does Fox. They’re just as error prone and ideological as Fox is.

Do they claim to be. “Fair and balanced” as well?
F#X set their own standard.

Haimerej said:
You can’t say he goes after MSNBC with as much vigor as he does Fox.

Yeah, and Jeff Foxworthy and The Blue Collar Comedians go after rednecks even though all people are basically ridiculous. Does that mean they are anti-Southern activists? Of course not.
That is their shtick. They find it funny and it sells.

Going after conservatives is Jon’s stick. He finds them funny and it sells.

slickerwick said:
Ah, and now we get misogyny. Gotta love it. Keep those statements coming. You are a shining example of liberalism.

Sorry but she’s the one who threw her vagina into the conversation.

BarneyFranken said:
feel better now?

Yup. Thanks for correcting with the truth.

insideguy said:
Oh you are really cutting hairs there my friend haimerej. See this is the funny thing about fox who the hell is a contributor and who’s on a bus tour and being interviewed as a non contributor. And what was the interviewer doing when she said this dumb propaganda? Was Greta there to just Chat and let her make false comments? And that comment she made is not a little lie its a huge lie, its outright foolish. So Bill O when he is on his show has to say things accurately but when he’s on a book tour he can say any stupid thing he wants while being interviewed by Hannity about the book, without being challenged? Ahhhh i get it Ill scratch your back and you scratch mine:)

It’s not “outright foolish” it’s actually a couple words short of being, according to Politifact, true. Had she said the budget Obama proposed would have added more debt than the rest of the Presidents combined, then it would have been true.

Also, I’m not here saying that Fox is a paragon of truth. But, in case you haven’t noticed, there’s no news organization that is. I’m sure you’re still pissed about Contessa Brewer cropping out a black guys head so she can imply that gun toting protesters were racists. I don’t recall a retraction on that one from MSNBC. Or is Fox the only channel that you hold this standard on?

BFD said:
Yup. Thanks for correcting with the truth.

Your welcome. I think you will enjoy this video of you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYUw1PHDyPY

Glackin said:
Do they claim to be. “Fair and balanced” as well?F#X set their own standard.

“Fair and balanced” doesn’t mean, “error free.”

AmericaSucks said:
You really don’t belong here, Alice–you seem to be capable of thoughtful analysis. It’s too late for me, but run! Save yourself!!

Sometimes I just gotta poke the cage for awhile.

BarneyFranken said:
Your welcome. I think you will enjoy this video of you:

So is it nick-picking to point out the difference between calling Sarah Palin an idiot and disagreeing with one of her policies?

They are the exact same thing?

I see.

nit-picking. lol

No Hamerej but FOX claims to be be fair and balanced MSNBC does not. FOX news interviewed Jon Stewart this is how this whole conversation got started. MSNBC is biased and I don’t think you will find a liberal who says its not. But you can find a whole army of conservatives who somehow claim the FOX is not biased.

BFD said:
Yeah, and Jeff Foxworthy and The Blue Collar Comedians go after rednecks even though all people are basically ridiculous. Does that mean they are anti-Southern activists? Of course not.That is their shtick. They find it funny and it sells. Going after conservatives is Jon’s stick. He finds them funny and it sells.

Right. I don’t see why he can’t acknowledge the general liberal tilt of the media though. I don’t think that would harm his shtick any.

LeviCoultify said:
Plus the thing isn’t about slip ups, FOX deliberately makes up false claims for political reasons, that’s just pure propaganda.

You mean like MSNBC? Did any of you happen to check Politifact on MSNBC’s lies?

Which brings up a point about the sorry state of affairs within the media in general. Very few of these stations will correct themselves after false facts or statements which really does bring it to the level of propaganda. Kinda crazy if you think about it.

BFD said:
So is it nick-picking to point out the difference between calling Sarah Palin an idiot and disagreeing with one of her policies?

They are the exact same thing?

I see.

Funny how a guy who uses Biden as an avatar thinks Palin is stupid. I love the smell of irony in the morning. Isn’t that the same Biden who thought FDR had his fireside chats broadcast over the TV?

Speaking of which, whatever happened to Biden? Where are they keeping him under wraps. Haven’t seen hide nor hair of him lately.

slickerwick said:
You mean like MSNBC? Did any of you happen to check Politifact on MSNBC’s lies?

They’re not even on the same playing field.

Paul G said:
Why do I even bother looking at this site after midnight…Alice67, inside and now this moron AmericaSucks….ALL of them making 7 cents double time cubicle diaper wearing babies….

Is that propeller about to spin you off, darlin?

The Voice of Reason said:
Thumb up 5 Thumb down 1

Chris Wallace actually broke Jon Stewart.

That’s funny.

The Voice of Reason said:
His ‘they do it too’ thing is silly.

LOL!! Yeah, that’s what he did.

The Voice of Reason said:
The correction was about him and him alone.

It was and he admitted he was mistaken. I think he was doing what I’m doing now. Laughing in the face of all the conservatives who joyfully used politifact to slam Jon. There were a bunch yesterday and this morning.
Sure he made a mistake, got something wrong, but the people who chose Fair and Balanced as there slogan, and have an ethical obligation to be as accurate as possible got it wrong A LOT. So much so that they got lie of the year two years running.
So Jon admitted he was wrong. Maybe Wallace can get Fox, to follow suit. Ya think the chances of that are good?
Most of what Jon and Chris did was express opinions and opinions usually aren’t debunked , although the basis that forms the opinion can be. Chris led the interview with reading Jon’s criticism of Fox and asking. “where do you get this stuff from?” I think Jon’s clip tonight kinda demonstrated that. He gets it from Fox’s broadcasts. Is that debunking enough.

insideguy said:
No Hamerej but FOX claims to be be fair and balanced MSNBC does not. FOX news interviewed Jon Stewart this is how this whole conversation got started. MSNBC is biased and I don’t think you will find a liberal who says its not. But you can find a whole army of conservatives who somehow claim the FOX is not biased.

I’ve yet to meet a conservative who doesn’t acknowledge Fox being tilted their way. At this point, the whole “who’s biased” debate is pretty much over. I’m just surprised there are so many people who think that saying Fox is “right wing” is some sort of revelation they need to spread to the masses. I’m pretty sure people have it figured out.

Also, “bias” doesn’t amount to much more than “half empty” and “half full” in most situations. It’s just a certain perspective people have about things. People will generally flock to the station that sees things the way they do.

Haimerej said:
It’s not “outright foolish” it’s actually a couple words short of being, according to Politifact, true. Had she said the budget Obama proposed would have added more debt than the rest of the Presidents combined, then it would have been true.

Also, I’m not here saying that Fox is a paragon of truth. But, in case you haven’t noticed, there’s no news organization that is. I’m sure you’re still pissed about Contessa Brewer cropping out a black guys head so she can imply that gun toting protesters were racists. I don’t recall a retraction on that one from MSNBC. Or is Fox the only channel that you hold this standard on?

Good point.

slickerwick said:
Funny how a guy who uses Biden as an avatar thinks Palin is stupid.

I didn’t say that.
My point was that If Bill O’Reilly disagreed with one of Palin’s policy positions and I posted “O’Reilly thinks Palin is stupid!” you Righty’s wouldn’t think it was nit-picking to point out the error of my ways.

Just like I did to Barney.

jddoubleu said:
alice/ellen kills people for a living and if you saw the unibomber approved shack she lives in, you’d know why she is at the cybercafe posting on mediaita all night.

And I’ll never leave your head. never,ever,evah!

Not me I know how I see things. I watch Fox to see what the hell they believe, and not a day goes by that I don’t almost crap my pants in horror.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
They are the mosted trusted name in news, and dominate the non-competition of the corrupt, liberal media. The sooner you accept reality, the sooner you can start the healing process.

So you’re saying they are getting away with all the lying and the general public hasn’t caught on yet? Gee, I think I feel the healing begin.

BFD said:
So is it nick-picking to point out the difference between calling Sarah Palin an idiot and disagreeing with one of her policies? They are the exact same thing? I see.

No you are right there is definitely a difference.

Its nit picking to attack my use of the word stupid, which was an inference I was making off of saying they were wrong, not a ‘lie’ as you put it.

To call something stupid is to look down upon, to condescend, to spout intellectual superiority. You mean to tell me liberals never do that?

I think that is what plenty of liberals did when trying to rationale with Politifact on why they were wrong.

Oh, that, “Lie of the Year” about death panels was Sarah Palin. She made the statement in 2009 and didn’t sign on with Fox until 2010. So is Stewart saying that anything a Republican ever says is Fox News’ responsibility?

I’m really fighting the urge to check on the rest of Fox’s so called, “lies.” Of course, Jon’s not a newsman so he doesn’t have to tell the truth.

Haimerej said:
I’ve yet to meet a conservative who doesn’t acknowledge Fox being tilted their way.

Unfortunately their are many Rightys here on this site who think Fox presents both sides equally.

Even Bill O’Reilly said both sides were equally represented on his show and he has an equal number on guests from both sides which is patently ridiculous.

I wish Politifact would have got a hold of the that one!

I believe Fox does present both sides, but the skew is about 5 to 1 conservative. That is how they influence their viewers, by attrition. They present the liberal side but beat them over the head with the conservative side.
MSNBC is the same. They both suck.
CNN tries to play it fair, although a Righty will never concede that until Wolf Blitzer says Man domesticated dinosaurs.

Remember, in 2003 News Corp won a court decision in which they fervently fought for the right to intentionally lie, distort the facts, and mislead their audience.

The commentators on FOX News couldn’t care less whether what they espouse is factually accurate.  All that matters is whether or not they can SELL it to their viewers and listeners. If this hotbed of propaganda peddlers were required be truthful in their “commentaries”, they would be speechless.

BarneyFranken said:
No you are right there is definitely a difference.

Its nit picking to attack my use of the word stupid, which was an inference I was making off of saying they were wrong, not a ‘lie’ as you put it.

To call something stupid is to look down upon, to condescend, to spout intellectual superiority. You mean to tell me liberals never do that?

I think that is what plenty of liberals did when trying to rationale with Politifact on why they were wrong.

Aren’t we done? I’m all over that now and sh!t. And talking to another guy and you’re boring me.
You corrected yourself and that was good enough for me. :)

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Wallace got him to say on camera that though he thinks FOX is biased and has a political agenda, he doesn’t think the same about ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, NYT, WA Post and the rest. He made a fool out of himself.

Once again, this is a completely dishonest slant on what Jon said to Chris. You’ve been corrected and you keep repeating it. Now you’ve added “political agenda” why? Do you think that makes it correct? It doesn’t. Talk about helping people be misinformed. I noticed Juan Williams said something to that effect. I’ll have to check that out next.

BFD said:
Unfortunately their are many Rightys here on this site who think Fox presents both sides equally. Even Bill O’Reilly said both sides were equally represented on his show and he has an equal number on guests from both sides which is patently ridiculous. I wish Politifact would have got a hold of the that one! I believe Fox does present both sides, but the skew is about 5 to 1 conservative. That is how they influence their viewers, by attrition. They present the liberal side but beat them over the head with the conservative side.MSNBC is the same. They both suck.CNN tries to play it fair, although a Righty will never concede that until Wolf Blitzer says Man domesticated dinosaurs.

I really can’t stand O’Reilly anymore. He’s too much of a populist and not a true believer. :) My liberal brother acknowledged that he’s not as bad as he used to be. I think he generally does give both sides a voice, moreso than most pundit shows out there.

The Fox people will point to that study that says they were more balanced than anyone in the ’08 election. I think it’s pretty true. You gotta be wearing blinders if you think that the media weren’t totally in the tank for Obama.

Its not even that Haimerej don’t you see that? Its not the fact that dopey Sarah Palin made that comment about death panels in 2009 before they decided to hire her as a contributor. Its that this freaking NEWS channel did not challenge that fact or debunk it! They are supposed to have reporters who challenge people when they say false things, they do challenge lefties all the time but when Sarah comes on she gets to walk in say stuff and leave without even a nod or a wink. Its crazy.

BarneyFranken said:
Yesterday: Politifact is stupid!

Today: Politifact is great!

Which is reversed by all the conservatives who did the happy dance about poltifact yesterday. Personally, I just read the article and admitted that Jon was technically incorrect,

AmericaSucks said:
Hey, sorry. No dummy e-mail addresses, please. Last time I used one of those my computer did not like it. I’ll settle for a yahoo/hotmail/gmail address, though.

jddoubleu has posted a virus on here as a link so I would be very careful of clicking on anything from her. My anti-virus program caught it.

Alice67 said:
And I’ll never leave your head. never,ever,evah!

Sort of like Fox News will never leave your head, dear? They really do “rattle your cage.”

Haimerej said:
You gotta be wearing blinders if you think that the media weren’t totally in the tank for Obama.

And you gotta be blind if you think the media weren’t in the tank for Bush’s Iraq war.
Like Stewart said, they are lazy and like sensationalism and a good narrative.

One thing about politifact that deserves mentioning is what they choose to scrutinize.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/

Here is a list of all truthometered statements, starting with the most recent. Seems they focused on republican statements over democrats at a 3-1 rate.

You can make your own assumptions here, but I can think of alot more statements that deserve a fact check, and it seems like the statements they focus on from democrats are relatively tame in comparison.

Id like to see both sides get an equal skewering here because it is equally deserved- but it seems a bit disproportionate.

insideguy said:
Its not even that Haimerej don’t you see that? Its not the fact that dopey Sarah Palin made that comment about death panels in 2009 before they decided to hire her as a contributor. Its that this freaking NEWS channel did not challenge that fact or debunk it! They are supposed to have reporters who challenge people when they say false things, they do challenge lefties all the time but when Sarah comes on she gets to walk in say stuff and leave without even a nod or a wink. Its crazy.

Sort of like MSNBC and their pundits and favored politicos.
Wow, seems like Fox News really has you in a tizzy. Try stomping your feet a little harder. That might make them go away.

seek said:
One of Stewart’s “lies told by Fox”
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/feb/15/glenn-beck/glenn-beck-says-muslim-brotherhood-wants-declare-w/

I call b.s. on politifact. You read the article and basically they cherry picked who they believe and who they don’t.

Suspect.

It was a pretty long list. Let us know what you find about about the others.

BFD said:
Aren’t we done? I’m all over that now and sh!t. And talking to another guy and you’re boring me.You corrected yourself and that was good enough for me. :)

and that, my friends, is how you lose a debate.

BFD is like Carville in old school:

http://movieclips.com/2gfPm-old-school-movie-thats-the-way-you-debate/

insideguy said:
Its not even that Haimerej don’t you see that? Its not the fact that dopey Sarah Palin made that comment about death panels in 2009 before they decided to hire her as a contributor. Its that this freaking NEWS channel did not challenge that fact or debunk it! They are supposed to have reporters who challenge people when they say false things, they do challenge lefties all the time but when Sarah comes on she gets to walk in say stuff and leave without even a nod or a wink. Its crazy.

Well, looking into it at the time she seems to have been right. They were in the House Bill that didn’t ultimately get passed, but was on the table when her comment was made. To me, it’s reminiscent of when they said that one of the bills said you would go to jail for not buying health insurance. When the criticism was made, it was true. Later they explicitly exempted that punishment that was in the tax code, and it didn’t make it into the final bill. I remember yelling at my TV when, I believe it was Ed Schultz, was trying to say that the Repubs were lying about it because it wasn’t in the version that ultimately passed. It’s as if they were acting like there were no drafts that were leading up to that final version.

BFD said:
And you gotta be blind if you think the media weren’t in the tank for Bush’s Iraq war.
Like Stewart said, they are lazy and like sensationalism and a good narrative.

Hillary is a liberal and the media attacked her viciously in favor of Obama. Nothing to do with “Left”
She just wasn’t as good a narrative as THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT IN THE GREAT LAND OF OPPORTUNITY, AMERICA!!

That sells newspapers!

Regardless what they choose to scrutinize Barney the facts are that more people watch FOX than all the other cable networks combined. Even if I give you the fact that all the other cable news channels make as many false statements and lies as FOX does(and im giving you a lot there) it still means that due to their audience size they are reaching more people with these idiotic comments than anyone else which is a bad thing.

BarneyFranken said:
and that, my friends, is how you lose a debate.

Yes, I lost the debate by you correcting yourself and me thanking you and moving on.

I feel so defeated!!!! lol

BarneyFranken said:
and that, my friends, is how you lose a debate.

BFD is like Carville in old school:

http://movieclips.com/2gfPm-old-school-movie-thats-the-way-you-debate/

I don’t think you have the first idea on how to win a debate.. or how to debate in the first place.

insideguy said:
Regardless what they choose to scrutinize Barney the facts are that more people watch FOX than all the other cable networks combined. Even if I give you the fact that all the other cable news channels make as many false statements and lies as FOX does(and im giving you a lot there) it still means that due to their audience size they are reaching more people with these idiotic comments than anyone else which is a bad thing.

So you don’t care about the principle of “truth” so much as you wish more people were misinformed by your favored bias?

Well by your last statement you are saying politifact is wrong and that the death panel comment wasn’t the lie of the year. Im so confused are they right or wrong? Apparently to a righty they are correct on stewarts false statement but wrong on conservatives false statements. This is giving me a headache.

BarneyFranken said:
and that, my friends, is how you lose a debate.

BFD is like Carville in old school:

http://movieclips.com/2gfPm-old-school-movie-thats-the-way-you-debate/

Btw, you didnt even realize that in that clip you posted the argument was won by saying that we should fund science. I didn’t realize you were such a lib, welcome to the club.

Alice67 said:
jddoubleu has posted a virus on here as a link so I would be very careful of clicking on anything from her. My anti-virus program caught it.

Your toaster is ringing , Grandma .

BFD said:
She just wasn’t as good a narrative as THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT IN THE GREAT LAND OF OPPORTUNITY, AMERICA!!

Just like AMERICA MUST DEFEAT A DICTATOR WITH WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND RAPE ROOMS!!

That sells newspapers too. And wins Pulitzers.

Haimerej said:
Oh, that, “Lie of the Year” about death panels was Sarah Palin. She made the statement in 2009 and didn’t sign on with Fox until 2010. So is Stewart saying that anything a Republican ever says is Fox News’ responsibility?

Saying the lie does not make it “The Lie of The Year’” giving that lie exposure and momentum does. FoxNews made “Death Panels” a major talking point. They cashed in on that lie, they claimed it.

Here’s a 2 second search I did:
http://nation.foxnews.com/death-panels/2010/12/26/obama-brings-back-death-panels

I do care about the truth Haimerej. But lets look at the big picture here. If I go into a bar and tell a bunch of people in that bar that the world is flat and dinosaurs were cavemans pets they would say boy insideguy you are full of crap but my audience is 5 people. Now and If I go on national tv as a public figure and say the world is flat ect and the idiot reporter looks at me and shakes his head and agrees with what im saying what do you think is more harmful?

Nacho said:
Saying the lie does not make it “The Lie of The Year’” giving that lie exposure and momentum does. FoxNews made “Death Panels” a major talking point. They cashed in on that lie, they claimed it.

Here’s a 2 second search I did:
http://nation.foxnews.com/death-panels/2010/12/26/obama-brings-back-death-panels

Man, theyre just absolutely shameless. *shakes head*

insideguy said:
Regardless what they choose to scrutinize Barney the facts are that more people watch FOX than all the other cable networks combined. Even if I give you the fact that all the other cable news channels make as many false statements and lies as FOX does(and im giving you a lot there) it still means that due to their audience size they are reaching more people with these idiotic comments than anyone else which is a bad thing.

Much more people watch CBS, ABC, & NBC news than Fox. Plus the sheer number of broadcasting hours of all left leaning organizations blows Fox away- so I dont really get what you are trying to say. That’s really not what I was referring to though.

If you click on the link, most of the fact checked statements are made by politicians, hence the republican vs democrat being 3-1 that I was talking about.

insideguy said:
Well by your last statement you are saying politifact is wrong and that the death panel comment wasn’t the lie of the year. Im so confused are they right or wrong? Apparently to a righty they are correct on stewarts false statement but wrong on conservatives false statements. This is giving me a headache.

I don’t see what’s confusing about it. The House Bill that didn’t get passed had a provision in it. As for what’s in the final bill, I think it’s arguable from an ideological perspective about “death panels” but that’s another discussion.

Furthermore, I’m not saying that because Politifact may be wrong about some things that they are wrong about all things. So I don’t get the whole, “righty” accusation you made.

Nacho said:
Saying the lie does not make it “The Lie of The Year’” giving that lie exposure and momentum does. FoxNews made “Death Panels” a major talking point. They cashed in on that lie, they claimed it. Here’s a 2 second search I did:http://nation.foxnews.com/death-panels/2010/12/26/obama-brings-back-death-panels

It’s a hyperbolic statement, but based upon your ideology, it’s not exactly false.

Paul G said:
Idiot.

Says a cross-eyed propeller head.

didn’t mention cbs abc and nbc news Barney your missing my point I said cable news. They are reaching more people via cable news than all the other cable news networks combined. Which means in the cable world of news more people are listening to more bs from them than anyone else. Now you can bring up nbc abc and cbs. And I can bring up Right wing talk radio which rules the airwaves by a mile. Do a fact check on them.

insideguy said:
I do care about the truth Haimerej. But lets look at the big picture here. If I go into a bar and tell a bunch of people in that bar that the world is flat and dinosaurs were cavemans pets they would say boy insideguy you are full of crap but my audience is 5 people. Now and If I go on national tv as a public figure and say the world is flat ect and the idiot reporter looks at me and shakes his head and agrees with what im saying what do you think is more harmful?

But you were saying Fox matters because they have the larger audience. It makes it hard to believe that you care about truth when there are plenty of other organizations and news channels that spout “lies” and make errors too and you don’t seem to care about the errors and lies they spit. Do you go after MSNBC like this?

Haimerej said:
But you were saying Fox matters because they have the larger audience. It makes it hard to believe that you care about truth when there are plenty of other organizations and news channels that spout “lies” and make errors too and you don’t seem to care about the errors and lies they spit. Do you go after MSNBC like this?

Yes. People DO go after Msnbc like this if they mess up. We dont see a TV channel as our god… like you guys.

Haimerej said:
It’s a hyperbolic statement, but based upon your ideology, it’s not exactly false.

Employed by FoxNews Sarah Palin:

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201001140062

I do care about other Haimerej you are going around in circles. FOX news is the biggest and baddest out their. Therefore they should in a normal world be the most fair and balanced. MSNBC is just as bad. But in no way shape or form is CNN or even PBS as biased as FOX. Again I bring up the analogy if I say something stupid on this blog I don’t have an audience so what does it matter. But if Palin says something stupid on a network thats supposed to be the best news network out there and doesn’t get challenged isn’t there something wrong with that network?

LeviCoultify said:
I don’t think you have the first idea on how to win a debate.. or how to debate in the first place.

Oh, I definitely won. My opponent waived the white flag, cursed and cried uncle.

LeviCoultify said:
Btw, you didnt even realize that in that clip you posted the argument was won by saying that we should fund science. I didn’t realize you were such a lib, welcome to the club.

LOL. no the argument was won because it took the words right out of Carville’s mouth- how could Carville argue against himself? It wasnt because he was undeniably right.

Yup- another win for me. Nice try though.

insideguy said:
didn’t mention cbs abc and nbc news Barney your missing my point I said cable news. They are reaching more people via cable news than all the other cable news networks combined. Which means in the cable world of news more people are listening to more bs from them than anyone else. Now you can bring up nbc abc and cbs. And I can bring up Right wing talk radio which rules the airwaves by a mile. Do a fact check on them.

Ok, but still politifact fact checks politicians over pundits by a wide margin. Do you not see that?

I just dont think it is accurate to say more bs comes from Fox than anywhere else, but I can understand that you would feel that way since numerous organizations devote themselves to disseminating and deconstructing every second of broadcast on Fox. Some do it humorously like Jon Stewart, some do it maliciously like media matters, but the end result is the same. Fox is under fire 24/7 like no other network.

Jon Stewart -2
Faux News -0

BOO-YAW !!

BarneyFranken said:
Oh, I definitely won. My opponent waived the white flag, cursed and cried uncle.

LOL. no the argument was won because it took the words right out of Carville’s mouth- how could Carville argue against himself? It wasnt because he was undeniably right.

Yup- another win for me. Nice try though.

This actually makes sense, you’re saying you don’t care about substance but rather just about showing up the other guy by any means, regardless of how stupid. Sums up the whole right wing actually.

The problem cons have is it’s not just politifact but factcheck,and politico among others that constantly catch Faux news in not just exaggerations but outright lies.

Faux News must be really proud to have the lie of the year award two years in a row. But the funny thing is reading through the posts there were only a couple of (failed btw) attempts to disprove any of the mountain of lies chronicled in the Stewart segment, just more attacks of Stewart.

A bit of advice for Wallace and Faux news. In the world of celebrity feuds the last thing you want to do is feud with a comedian. It’s much easier to attack actors or rappers or any other form of entertainer because when you lose to a comedian they have a tendency to make you look foolish and a bit of a laughing stock. First there was Franken/O’reilly and now Stewart/Wallace. I bet Bill Maher’s publicist is working overtime to get him booked with Wallace next.

Where are all the lies trashing the right wing and Republican Party? Hmmmmmmm. Not one at all? Every lie and distortion from Fox News targets the Left and Democrats? Does that mean that Fox News is really “fair and balanced?”

Okay Fox News, get to correcting!! Oh you say, no way in hell are we going to correct anything, we like it when our viewer think bullshit? Okay carry on.

m_mayhem said:
A bit of advice for Wallace and Faux news. In the world of celebrity feuds the last thing you want to do is feud with a comedian. It’s much easier to attack actors or rappers or any other form of entertainer because when you lose to a comedian they have a tendency to make you look foolish and a bit of a laughing stock. First there was Franken/O’reilly and now Stewart/Wallace. I bet Bill Maher’s publicist is working overtime to get him booked with Wallace next.

It is the common mistake made by many that have came before, the wreckage left by Stewart of people who have thought they could battle him is legion. Yet, they never learn. Poor Fox News. It’s just too bad that Jon Stewart probably has no idea what a Mediaite is, they seem ripe for a Stewart asskicking.

LeviCoultify said:
Yes. People DO go after Msnbc like this if they mess up. We dont see a TV channel as our god… like you guys.

Ask Ed Schultz and Keith Olbermann if Jon Stewart have ever gone after them. I must admit I watch as much MSNBC as I do Fox which is next to never.

skyet has asked me to comment for him . He’s on guard duty at the village .

what a whiner/phony StewarT jon is . looks like fox touched a nerve !!
Ahhhhhhhh

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Wait, who’s the most trusted name in news? Wait for it………..FOX is!

Yeah…not so much.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/public-policy-polling-pbs-most-trusted-fox-news-least-trusted-news-organizations_b49234

Sanders Youth said:
Ask Ed Schultz and Keith Olbermann if Jon Stewart have ever gone after them. I must admit I watch as much MSNBC as I do Fox which is next to never.

You clearly don’t watch the Daily Show.

It is beautiful knowing that none of the Left’s ranting will change the media dynamic whatsoever. Tee Hee!

Fact: Nothing new in this story. Jon already admitted to no morals by his statement that he has only voted once for a republican. It’s not in a liberal’s mindset to admit fault or being wrong because they are so intelligent. When in doubt attack.

Talk about a killer segment…

“the New England Patriots of lying– without the patriot part because I think we all know patriots never lie.” Ouch.

LOL!

This HYPERVENTING OBSESSION with FOX News on the part of the DEMOCRATIC MEDIA ESTABLISHMENT bodes quite well for the GOP in 2012!
But Jon, you left out the DEMOCRATIC MEDIA ESTABLISHMENT’S most scurrilous machination – THE RACE CARD!

Now let’s see those “LIES” in context —– or —– have JONBOY do a nightly segment on each of the other networks!
Don’t worry you 75% of America out there, JONBOY only preaches to the choir!!!

Hey all you MINDLESS LIBERALS who need Jon Stewart & Media Matters to tell you HOW TO THINK, your Democratic Welfare Pimps are getting booted from power next year – GET USED TO !

what a shalliow and petty man stewart is

haha Stewart embarrasses Fox again..and with the with their own words to back it up. I love it…You plutos and baggers gotta remember, he who laughs last laughs hardest.

Stewart doesn’t get it. It’s not about him or Fox. It’s about the Fox viewers that he portrayed as misinformed when in fact, he was the one who was misinformed.

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Nothing new in this story. Jon already admitted to no morals by his statement that he has only voted once for a republican. It’s not in a liberal’s mindset to admit fault or being wrong because they are so intelligent. When in doubt attack.

Wait, he did admit fault and that he was wrong. Then he attacked after that. And I’m confused at how voting once for a republican means you have no morals.

JONBOY,

When can we expect those segments on the “lies” of:

NBC
CBS
ABC
NPR
CNN
MSNBC
- and -
Associated Press
Reuters
NY Times
Wash. Post
TIME
NEWSWEEK
…

You know, the DEMOCRATIC MEDIA ESTABLISHMENT!

We’ll be looking forward to those segments.
Associated Press

I seem to miss out on the FOX/Jon Stewart debates, because here it is 7AM, and there are already nearly 400 comments. Does anybody here sleep?

I guess Stewart has finally proven that he’s not a political pundit, since he addressed being called out as wrong by Politifact. And he admitted it. And then turned it into a great bit. I didn’t know you could win Lie of the Year. I know it’s only June, but any predictions of what’s going to win this year?

Jon Stewart is sounding like a mouthpiece for Media Matters, that irrelevant whiner of all things FOX.

crclarkNY said:
Stewart doesn’t get it. It’s not about him or Fox. It’s about the Fox viewers that he portrayed as misinformed when in fact, he was the one who was misinformed.

They do rank pretty low in most of the surveys.

Does that bother you at all?

NORBIT Jr. said:
When can we expect those segments on the “lies” of:

NBC
CBS
ABC
NPR
CNN
MSNBC
- and -
Associated Press
Reuters
NY Times
Wash. Post
TIME
NEWSWEEK

Jon cited specific examples of FNC’s misinformation.

When will FNC issue a retraction?

I understand why the FoxNews viewers are angry. You home team is a joke and Jon Stewart is exposing them as just that.

The problem that you people have is you associate yourself so much with a cable news network. You have allowed FoxNews to define you people more than any political party let alone independent thought.

thin skin for a clown…

NORBIT Jr. said:
JONBOY,

When can we expect those segments on the “lies” of:

NBC
CBS
ABC
NPR
CNN
MSNBC
- and -
Associated Press
Reuters
NY Times
Wash. Post
TIME
NEWSWEEK
…

You know, the DEMOCRATIC MEDIA ESTABLISHMENT!

We’ll be looking forward to those segments.
Associated Press

Well, you didn’t get them last night, because they don’t fit into the joke. Stewart has called out on the lies of others than FOX, it’s just more prevalent because in the world of satire, to call out the lies of a Fair and Balanced news organization (their words) is, for the most part, funny. It’s interesting that Jon got called out for making a false statement. Just one, mind you. And the right rallied behind it. Check out the comment board for the Politifact. Hoo boy, you sure got Jon backed into a corner. He’s a liar. How can you trust him, etc. And then, Jon does the old rope-a-dope, and throws it back out there. He gets called out, and then, throws it back into the right’s court, and their response? Oh, well, the other liberal media lies all the time too, call them out, why aren’t you…yada, yada, yada. See, I think the thing here is that FOX News clearly leans to the right, it’s a conservative voice. There’s nothing wrong with that. MSNBC called themselves the place for progressives, most of the pundits on there freely admit they are on the left. The thing that annoys most is that FOX won’t admit they are a conservative news organization. They say Fair and Balanced but it’s clear to everyone that they have an agenda. If they would just admit it, I think that the satire wouldn’t be so consistent.

Nacho said:
The problem that you people have is you associate yourself so much with a cable news network. You have allowed FoxNews to define you people more than any political party let alone independent thought.

Absolutely spot on!

glenn113 said:
haha Stewart embarrasses Fox again..and with the with their own words to back it up. I love it…You plutos and baggers gotta remember, he who laughs last laughs hardest.

He doesn’t embarass Fox news or himself really, the people that watch him will never ever ever see the world through a prism other than the one he presents, which is fine. It’s not as though he will ever change anyones hearts or minds politically or comically for that matter, his stable is loyal but small. He’s at the top of his ladder, his level of importance as a comedian or even as a “pretend political pundit” isn’t going to grow any higher.

As important as this website likes to imply he is, he just really isn’t in the big scope of things. He’ll never hit network late night paydirt, and unless he runs for Anthony Weiners’ seat he’ll probably remain just what he is, a 3rd rate comedian on basic cable with a small audience.

skoorbekim said:
thin skin for a clown…

Just out of curiosity, what would be the thick skinned response? Not to respond?

Nacho said:
The problem that you people have is you associate yourself so much with a cable news network. You have allowed FoxNews to define you people more than any political party let alone independent thought.

is that how you view a news channel? a home team?
most news viewers have a variety of news sources, not just one…
keep shooting the messenger — you’re firing blanks…

Arthur (Not a Political Comic) said:
Just out of curiosity, what would be the thick skinned response? Not to respond?

JS claimed he was Mark Twain and lacked an agenda…

FOXN did contact Politifact and call for a fact check…

I thought the Wallace interview was great — and I’m mildly surprised at the waves it caused…

timzank said:
he’ll probably remain just what he is, a 3rd rate comedian on basic cable with a small audience.

I disagree.
If he plays his card right he and ages gracefully he could be remembered as another Will Rogers or Bob Hope.
He was already most trusted newsman.

BFD said:
He was already most trusted newsman.

he would angrily deny that… as he did w/ Wallace…

… and, it continues. Supplies of pitch forks and torches are in short supply as the excited villagers march up the hill to Comedy Central.

I think we may have a new Comedy Central series here. FOX “News” errors and the people who love them.

BFD said:
I disagree.If he plays his card right he and ages gracefully he could be remembered as another Will Rogers or Bob Hope.He was already most trusted newsman.

trusted newsman lol

Hugo Daun said:
Liberal Tormentor – tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Wait, who’s the most trusted name in news? Wait for it………..FOX is!

Yeah…not so much.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/public-policy-polling-pbs-most-trusted-fox-news-least-trusted-news-organizations_b49234

That’s almost cruel.

skoorbekim said:
is that how you view a news channel? a home team?
most news viewers have a variety of news sources, not just one…
keep shooting the messenger — you’re firing blanks…

That’s how the people that identify themselves as FoxNews viewers do. I watch FoxNews on occasion, I don’t consider it my only trusted source for news and hoot and holler when they have higher ratings than other cable news channels.

I’m glad you also acknowledge that these people have a problem.

skoorbekim said:
he would angrily deny that… as he did w/ Wallace…

As well he should. It’s a ridiculous notion.
It just shows how many people love him and as he grows older that respect will only grow.
I think he will be an American institution like Johnny Carson.
More than Letterman or Leno will ever be.

JS is a funny talented man — however, the vindictiveness and thin skined defense of himself seems odd and unfunny…

Libs love to attack FOXN — that is odd and funny… I do enjoy it —keep that eye off the ball…

skoorbekim said:
FOXN did contact Politifact and call for a fact check…

Is that a fact? Now that’s funny if that’s true that they asked for it.

BFD said:
I think he will be an American institution like Johnny Carson.

Carson was not political…

crclarkNY said:
Stewart doesn’t get it. It’s not about him or Fox. It’s about the Fox viewers that he portrayed as misinformed when in fact, he was the one who was misinformed.

That meme doesn’t seem to be taking hold despite its constant repetition. Find something different.

Nacho said:
Is that a fact? Now that’s funny if that’s true that they asked for it.

sorry, I forgot the NOT…

skoorbekim said:
Carson was not political…

What’s your point? Rogers and Hope were. That doesn’t exclude him from anything.

BFD said:
As well he should. It’s a ridiculous notion.It just shows how many people love him and as he grows older that respect will only grow.I think he will be an American institution like Johnny Carson.More than Letterman or Leno will ever be.

really it just show how stupid people can be

skoorbekim said:
JS claimed he was Mark Twain and lacked an agenda…

FOXN did contact Politifact and call for a fact check…

I thought the Wallace interview was great — and I’m mildly surprised at the waves it caused…

But that still doesn’t answer how his response to this can be perceived as thin skinned. It makes it even funnier to know that FOX News contacted Politifact for a fact check, since the turnaround that Stewart does here means that FOX News used the exact same organization that seems to consistently prove them wrong. Personally, I was disappointed when he said the misinformed line, as it could easily be proven wrong. (I hated hearing him say Every poll. Such sweeping generalization.)

I’m not really that surprised at all the waves that the interview caused. It’s a battle of two different mindsets. I think it appeals to us because essential it wasn’t necessarily a battle of right vs. left, but also a battle of funny vs. serious. I say that in that it showed the importance of comedy within a social commentary context. I may be reading too much into that, since well, I love comedy and have always been fascinated in where it lies within our collective consciousness. Stewart doesn’t lack an agenda, but I think it lies within he wants to make people laugh, first and foremost. His politics certainly come out, it’s the little piece of him, but as a comedian, I can tell you that your voice is very essential to the game. He has a clear voice, but like Twain, the laughs are number one. Political agenda is number two. (or three, or four…well, you get the idea.)

skoorbekim said:
Carson was not political…

You never watched Carson, did you? He was practically in bed with the Rayguns.

skoorbekim said:
sorry, I forgot the NOT…

Oh, they were quick to feature it on FoxNews.com though, weren’t they?

Did the TV shows cover it? If they haven’t yet, I’m sure a few will today. Gotta stand up for the Home team.

Nacho said:
That’s how the people that identify themselves as FoxNews viewers do.

people do not just have one single source of news…. that is what destroys the “FOXN Lies” premise… Lefties like to think people are stupid… People, all people are much smarter than Lefties would like to believe…

Nacho said:
Oh, they were quick to feature it on FoxNews.com though, weren’t they?

well, it’s an easy advertisement — defending your viewers from an angry clown…

again, I thought the Wallace interview was fun — I am amused that the Left is so aroused by it…

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
You never watched Carson, did you?

who didn’t watch Carson?

Arthur (Not a Political Comic) said:
funnier to know that FOX News contacted Politifact for a fact check,

I mis-typed… please don’t post that “fact” over at Kos… Politifact would have to fact-check Politifact…

Arthur (Not a Political Comic) said:
I say that in that it showed the importance of comedy within a social commentary context. I may be reading too much into that, since well, I love comedy and have always been fascinated in where it lies within our collective consciousness. Stewart doesn’t lack an agenda, but I think it lies within he wants to make people laugh, first and foremost. His politics certainly come out, it’s the little piece of him, but as a comedian, I can tell you that your voice is very essential to the game.

I agree with the jist of what you are saying…
again, I respect JS, and I like when he does these interviews (except the infamous Crossfire intrvw)

skoorbekim said:
again, I thought the Wallace interview was fun — I am amused that the Left is so aroused by it…

That’s old news, Stewart is responding to the right wingnuts getting so aroused by a PolitiFact check that defended their great Home Team News Chanel. I was on FoxNews.com and every right wingnut blog. There were FoxNews Fanatics that were posting the link in threads here.

Did you watch this video or read the article? You need to catch up, man.

ChrisNH said:
It is beautiful knowing that none of the Left’s ranting will change the media dynamic whatsoever. Tee Hee!

Tee Hee?

skoorbekim said:
people do not just have one single source of news…. that is what destroys the “FOXN Lies” premise… Lefties like to think people are stupid… People, all people are much smarter than Lefties would like to believe…

But Fox is the only source that can be trusted, right?

I bet Rupert & Roger wish people would stop talking about this interview. I bet they instruct their on-air talent, via a Sammons memo, to stop talking about it. The conclusion is inescapable: Wallace let the cat out into the yard, and chasing it is never going to capture it. It seems time to turn Dylan Thomas on his head and go gently into that good night. From a FOX “News” perspective, the less said, the better. Of course, Jon Stewart probably disagrees.

Arthur (Not a Political Comic) said:
Well, you didn’t get them last night, because they don’t fit into the joke. Stewart has called out on the lies of others than FOX, it’s just more prevalent because in the world of satire, to call out the lies of a Fair and Balanced news organization (their words) is, for the most part, funny. It’s interesting that Jon got called out for making a false statement. Just one, mind you. And the right rallied behind it. Check out the comment board for the Politifact. Hoo boy, you sure got Jon backed into a corner. He’s a liar. How can you trust him, etc. And then, Jon does the old rope-a-dope, and throws it back out there. He gets called out, and then, throws it back into the right’s court, and their response? Oh, well, the other liberal media lies all the time too, call them out, why aren’t you…yada, yada, yada. See, I think the thing here is that FOX News clearly leans to the right, it’s a conservative voice. There’s nothing wrong with that. MSNBC called themselves the place for progressives, most of the pundits on there freely admit they are on the left. The thing that annoys most is that FOX won’t admit they are a conservative news organization. They say Fair and Balanced but it’s clear to everyone that they have an agenda. If they would just admit it, I think that the satire wouldn’t be so consistent.

So, are we then to assume that the Democratic Media Establishment (i.e. mainstream media) acknowledges their Liberal Bias because they do not claim to be fair & balanced?…Is that what you’re saying?

There are two facets to FOX news, the NEWS division, and OPINION.
“Fair & Balanced” is applicable to the News Division; unlike the news divisions of the Democratic mainstream media, which, as you’ve implied – and I agree – is NOT fair and balanced, and doesn’t claim to be so.

ps) Did you ever notice that the Progressive Media Shills for the Democratic Party ALWAYS obsess over FOX, yet FOX never obsesses over them? – What does that tell you?

skoorbekim said:
people do not just have one single source of news…. that is what destroys the “FOXN Lies” premise… Lefties like to think people are stupid… People, all people are much smarter than Lefties would like to believe…

I wish I thought you were correct. I feel people that count on FoxNews as their main news source are the people that are told over and over again that they can not trust the “mainstream media.” Sure, they have another news sources, conservative talk radio, and the ones that are internet literate get it from conservative blogs that just repeat all the same stuff. Talk radio now-a-days all get their talking points from the same blogs and FoxNews.

It reminds me of a quote from Cheech and Chong talking about what kind of music they play: “We play everything from like Santana to El Chicano, man, you know, like everything.”

madaboutobama said:
But Fox is the only source that can be trusted, right?

only a fool would trust a news source…

it is up to the viewer to utilize critical thinking — and most people do…

Hugo Daun said:
Jon cited specific examples of FNC’s misinformation. When will FNC issue a retraction?

How about when he cites the specifics of the Democratic Media’s misinformation – I can assist with a 2-minute Google search, if his ideology precludes him from doing so – and their retractions?

Nacho said:
There were FoxNews Fanatics that were posting the link in threads here.

& and you think those posters represent the majority of FOXN viewers…

look into the science of statistics…

skoorbekim said:
only a fool would trust a news source…

That’s what the point has been. FoxNews are the leaders of the fools.

skoorbekim said:
& and you think those posters represent the majority of FOXN viewers…

look into the science of statistics…

I think I’d pack it up on this one if I were you. The FOX “News” defenses have gone from shrill to tepid to vacuous. I don’t see an upward trajectory coming.

Nacho said:
I feel people that count on FoxNews as their main news source are the people that are told over and over again that they can not trust the “mainstream media.”

No, no, no — the MSM did that to themselves… What woke me up to the liberal bias was MMGW, I was a strong believer for years — Then, I researched that subject on my own and was aghast at the MSM pushing a topic w/ ZERO scientific facts to back it up…

Arthur (Not a Political Comic) said:
Wait, he did admit fault and that he was wrong. Then he attacked after that. And I’m confused at how voting once for a republican means you have no morals.

Fact: Everyone knows voting straight ticket democrat year after year that you don’t believe in God or have morals. God and country are farthest from your thoughts.

Nacho said:
That’s what the point has been. FoxNews are the leaders of the fools.

and Politifact has posted an article which contradicts that assertion…
I have seen many polls measuring such things — and to the surprise of many the Daily Show, Rush, and FOXN comes out on top…

NORBIT Jr. said:
Did you ever notice that the Progressive Media Shills for the Democratic Party ALWAYS obsess over FOX, yet FOX never obsesses over them? – What does that tell you?

Do you really watch Fox specifically, Hannity?

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
The FOX “News” defenses have gone from shrill to tepid to vacuous. I don’t see an upward trajectory coming.

replace “defenses” w/ unilateral attacks from the Left —

He basically doubled down on being an idiot. Embarrassing.

LeviCoultify said:
Plus the thing isn’t about slip ups, FOX deliberately makes up false claims for political reasons, that’s just pure propaganda.

That’s what you just did.

Frances Martel, you are a LIAR and your headline proves it!

John Stewart didn’t read a list of Fox’s “corrections” as you so boldly “lied,” he read a list of their lies.

Frances Martel of Mediate, you are lying to try to soften the pain Stewart inflicted on Fox news.

skyfet here.

i only watch the news of fox to see there lies . all day long .
accept when i watch American pickers to see if Mike or frank get bit bye a snake or rat as climb around in old barns . or get robbed by bandits of the cash they carries . fox lyes !

skoorbekim said:
only a fool would trust a news source…
it is up to the viewer to utilize critical thinking — and most people do…

There has to be some amount of trust, at least that the content is factual

Liberalsim vs FOXN …
FOXN is winning — that says plenty about liberalism…

Hah, that was a funny segment.

I think many here are missing the point. He was making fun out of how big a deal it was that his statement wasn’t entirely true, while Fox has historically spread misinformation to serve an agenda. Exactly what his conversation with Wallace was largely about. And goes to show why Stewart would say what he did, regarding how misinformed Fox viewers are. Satire, not politics people.

madaboutobama said:
There has to be some amount of trust, at least that the content is factual

trust? I trust no news source… as I said, look at MMGW — I was duped for years!

Again, Frances Martel, you are a LIAR and your headline proves it!

John Stewart didn’t read a list of Fox’s “corrections” as you so boldly “lied,” he read a list of their lies.

Frances Martel of Mediate, you are lying to try to soften the pain Stewart inflicted on Fox news.

madaboutobama said:
There has to be some amount of trust, at least that the content is factual

who will decide?
censorship or satire?
I’ll take JS… however, JS should expect as good as he gives…

The Lantern of Truth said:
skyfet here. i only watch the news of fox to see there lies . all day long .accept when i watch American pickers to see if Mike or frank get bit bye a snake or rat as climb around in old barns . or get robbed by bandits of the cash they carries . fox lyes !

Fact: Skyfet here speaks. Hab faithb inb myb Obamab heb nevrb hab problemb withb whatb Jonb Stewartb Saysb. foxb Newsb badb.

skoorbekim said:
No, no, no — the MSM did that to themselves… What woke me up to the liberal bias was MMGW, I was a strong believer for years — Then, I researched that subject on my own and was aghast at the MSM pushing a topic w/ ZERO scientific facts to back it up…

NORBIT Jr. said:
There are two facets to FOX news, the NEWS division, and OPINION.
“Fair & Balanced” is applicable to the News Division;

Look at this FoxNews promo, It claims TOTAL Fair and Balanced network coverage of the Tax day Protest and then shows their “opinion” host along with their “news” hosts. Many of FoxNews promos and print ads include their “opinion” hosts in their “fair and balanced” propaganda.

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200904100024

possibly said:
Again, Frances Martel, you are a LIAR and your headline proves it! John Stewart didn’t read a list of Fox’s “corrections” as you so boldly “lied,” he read a list of their lies. Frances Martel of Mediate, you are lying to try to soften the pain Stewart inflicted on Fox news.

re-read the headline slowly

Nacho said:
Look at this FoxNews promo

the Left is too obsessed w/ FOXN…
I don’t see the endgame — only Alinsky…

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Skyfet here speaks. Hab faithb inb myb Obamab heb nevrb hab problemb withb whatb Jonb Stewartb Saysb. foxb Newsb badb.

skyfet says : finally somone of sense making ! Beck is foole type guy . and so are oryely . foxpeople dream of lies to tell and come to work and make dream come true ! Ahhhhh

skoorbekim said:
the Left is too obsessed w/ FOXN…
I don’t see the endgame — only Alinsky…

I didn’t mean to include your quote.

FoxNews showed how dangerous they were during the town hall meetings of ’09′ and ’10. Congress men and women were being shouted down by FoxNews talking points, many that Stewart points out here were lies.

At least 8 of those statements were made by guests on FOX during interviews.
One was from Sarah Palin’s Facebook page.
One was from a column O’Reilly wrote. I wouldn’t really call those FOX *lies*
Three of four were by FOX & friends – does anyone really take Doocey seriously?
And the majority of the rest were Beck. – Beck is leaving.

If FOX & friends are NOT the least misinformed viewers, what does that say about the information the other stations are putting out?

MSNBC – At least 38 fibs from hosts alone. Where are all the fact checked lies from their guests/interviews?
Schultz
Matthews
Scarborough
Lawrence O’Donnell
Maddow
Cenk Uygur – he wasn’t included but his recent coverage of Weinergate should get him fired, or laughed out of town
David Gregory
Olbermann

cjd ohio 1 said:
re-read the headline slowly

the title says politifact corrected the (many) mistakes by fox news. i says nothing about fox correcting their own mistakes.

sarainitaly said:
At least 8 of those statements were made by guests on FOX during interviews.
One was from Sarah Palin’s Facebook page.
One was from a column O’Reilly wrote. I wouldn’t really call those FOX *lies*
Three of four were by FOX & friends – does anyone really take Doocey seriously?
And the majority of the rest were Beck. – Beck is leaving.
The sun was in Fox’s eyes
The bat was cracked
The wind took it
Insert more lame excuses here.

Nacho said:
FoxNews showed how dangerous they were during the town hall meetings of ‘09′ and ‘10. Congress men and women were being shouted down by FoxNews talking points, many that Stewart points out here were lies.

how do quantify a “lie”?
is MMGW a lie?

((((IPAB is the “Death Panel”))))

madaboutobama said:
But Fox is the only source that can be trusted, right?

Jon Stewart is the TRVTH! Everybody knows that. Now stop asking questions.

Nacho said:
Look at this FoxNews promo, It claims TOTAL Fair and Balanced network coverage of the Tax day Protest and then shows their “opinion” host along with their “news” hosts. Many of FoxNews promos and print ads include their “opinion” hosts in their “fair and balanced” propaganda. http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200904100024

That’s advertising & semantics.

Until JonBoy, or someone else, does the same type of “fact-check” Stewart did on FOX to the rest of the Democratic Media, the FOX-haters will have no credibility on the issue.

My point is that, even if FOX did have what could be called “bias reports”, they’re DWARFED by the ubiquitous level of bias in the Democratic “mainstream” Media!

“FOXN Lies!” is on par with “Racist!”

the Left is running out of ammo… the internet has created a new media that is destroying the old reactionary established media…

skoorbekim said:
is MMGW a lie?

Do you think GW is a lie?

haha Stewart is the best.. About 3/4 of the lies from Fox are from the Minister of Propoganda Sean Hannity. And the best part about it is that Hannity will never, ever dispute what Stewart said. Gotta love it. And it definatley strikes a nerve with the plutos and baggers.

The lefties sure are a sick bunch. Their obsession with Fox is alarming and humorous. They will lie, cheat and steal in order to protect the DNC and hehimself, to their own demise. Stewart’s anger that Fox exists at all is just comedic, even though he doesn’t intend it to be.

Fox exists for a reason…the other channels only report from the left and no conservative is given a fair shake, none, not one, zero, zip, nada. Between abccbsnbcmsnbccnn, the left rules their reportage, they all belong to the limosine liberal group, they all think the same, they all speak the same. only Fox steps away from the liberal mind meld and thinks and reports out of the box, and the liberal left, who claims the mantle of tolerance, cannot tolerate a conservative voice.

jon, like his buddies on the left, only hurts himself when he does what he does. Too bad, he is talented, but when he reserves his talent to only trash one side of the political spectrum, he diminishes himself. There is so much humor on the left, if only Jon woud open his eyes and his mind.

But alas, he is ingrained with the left, and as a result, he will never expand his audience, his talent, or his reach. For shame.

Stewart is lying again. He does not know the difference between the news shows and Beck and Hannity. Is he really that stupid?

Steve_27 said:
He basically doubled down on being an idiot. Embarrassing.

Is that really what you saw?

NORBIT Jr. said:
That’s advertising & semantics.

So you agree that they are a disingenuous 24 “news” network…

this chart says it all:

http://bit.ly/mKwvda

9,090 years of the past 10,500 years have been warmer than 2010…

Nacho said:
Look at this FoxNews promo, It claims TOTAL Fair and Balanced network coverage of the Tax day Protest and then shows their “opinion” host along with their “news” hosts.

Well, that settles it then. Thanks, Justin.

sarainitaly said:
At least 8 of those statements were made by guests on FOX during interviews.One was from Sarah Palin’s Facebook page.One was from a column O’Reilly wrote. I wouldn’t really call those FOX *lies*Three of four were by FOX & friends – does anyone really take Doocey seriously?And the majority of the rest were Beck. – Beck is leaving. If FOX & friends are NOT the least misinformed viewers, what does that say about the information the other stations are putting out? MSNBC – At least 38 fibs from hosts alone. Where are all the fact checked lies from their guests/interviews?SchultzMatthewsScarboroughLawrence O’DonnellMaddowCenk Uygur – he wasn’t included but his recent coverage of Weinergate should get him fired, or laughed out of townDavid GregoryOlbermann

This is an orchestrated effort to discredit FOX, because they’re the only station that has not compromised their integrity in pursuit of a a failed political ideology.
The rest of the “Mainstream” Media Establishment has become little more than the defacto Propaganda Arm of the Democratic Party.

sarainitaly said:
At least 8 of those statements were made by guests on FOX during interviews.
One was from Sarah Palin’s Facebook page.
One was from a column O’Reilly wrote. I wouldn’t really call those FOX *lies*
Three of four were by FOX & friends – does anyone really take Doocey seriously?
And the majority of the rest were Beck. – Beck is leaving.

If FOX & friends are NOT the least misinformed viewers, what does that say about the information the other stations are putting out?

MSNBC – At least 38 fibs from hosts alone. Where are all the fact checked lies from their guests/interviews?
Schultz
Matthews
Scarborough
Lawrence O’Donnell
Maddow
Cenk Uygur – he wasn’t included but his recent coverage of Weinergate should get him fired, or laughed out of town
David Gregory
Olbermann

All of the FOX “News” lies were probably the result of the on air personalities being drunk on wine coolers. That seems to be the rightists’ favorite basis for absolution these days. Of course, in the case of O’Beckerhead, he was drunk on NyQuil.

gordonbloyershow said:
Stewart is lying again. He does not know the difference between the news shows and Beck and Hannity. Is he really that stupid?

Giving opinions about facts doesn’t give you permission to lie about them.

BFD said:
Giving opinions about facts doesn’t give you permission to lie about them.

better inform the Left — oh wait, the new media already is…

valkyrie101 said:
Is that really what you saw?

Of course. And if your not seeing it that way, then just proves i’m right.

Nacho said:
So you agree that they are a disingenuous 24 “news” network…

Yes, I do.
They’re not a news station for 24 hours – they have other shows.
Not even the weather channel is a weather channel for 24 hours; hence, semantics and advertising.

Look, until someone juxtaposes the level of bias on the so-called “mainstream media” stations, then compares that to FOX, you have no argument, because you have no context on the comparative roles of the different outlets to determine where the BIAS truly resides.

AmericaSucks said:
Address the lies Stewart listed, grandpa. That’s the substance (ironically) of both Stewart’s segment AND Fox News.

Stewart’s credibility went out the window when he listed the first lie. It was credited to Glenn Beck. Duh? Beck is not on a Fox NEWS show. It is not a Fox NEWS statement. Most of the so called lies are by commentators not news men. The premise is that Fox NEWS lies.

The truth is Stewart LIES.

I like Jon and think his writers are very funny and he has a good delivery. But this came off defensive and thin-skinned. And yes… Jon has an agenda beyond just being funny.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
the title says politifact corrected the (many) mistakes by fox news. i says nothing about fox correcting their own mistakes.

true, read what possibly said, i was just trying to be polite to correct him

corrections that were made by politifact

glenn113 said:
About 3/4 of the lies from Fox are from the Minister of Propoganda Sean Hannity.

Are you including the Photoshopped pictures of Tea Party events, inflating crowd size, as an O’Hannity lie?

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
All of the FOX “News” lies were probably the result of the on air personalities being drunk on wine coolers. That seems to be the rightists’ favorite basis for absolution these days. Of course, in the case of O’Beckerhead, he was drunk on NyQuil.

Hmmmm? You making a comment on people that tell lies? LOL. You are the grand champion of liars. You really need to get back on the meds. You are not fooling anyone here.

gordonbloyershow said:
Stewart’s credibility went out the window when he listed the first lie. It was credited to Glenn Beck. Duh? Beck is not on a Fox NEWS show. It is not a Fox NEWS statement. Most of the so called lies are by commentators not news men. The premise is that Fox NEWS lies.

The truth is Stewart LIES.

Sorry, commentary is premised on facts. If you lie about the underlying facts on which your conclusion is drawn, you’re lying. Pure and simple.

skoorbekim said:
this chart says it all:
http://bit.ly/mKwvda

Now that’s a source you can trust. Plus it tells the whole story. With no agenda. Just like?

gordonbloyershow said:
Stewart’s credibility went out the window when he listed the first lie. It was credited to Glenn Beck. Duh? Beck is not on a Fox NEWS show. It is not a Fox NEWS statement. Most of the so called lies are by commentators not news men. The premise is that Fox NEWS lies.

The truth is Stewart LIES.

I don’t get it…so Glenn,Hannity,Fox and friends etc…..
They’re not Fox News shows?
Can you tell me where I can watch them ?Cause I got confused by the Fox News logo on the screen……
But I’m sure you’re right so what is that opinion channel you’re talking about?

At the end of the day what Jon Stewart thinks or says is truly unimportant.  His viewership is insignificant in relation to the overall population and for those relative few he does reach, an even smaller percentage ever make it to the polls.  So when you think about it critically Jon Stewart’s alleged influence is immeasurably small.  

FoxNews opinion shows are allowed to lie, they don’t fall under the “fair and balanced” network’s catch phrase, they’re just extreme right wingnut activists on a “News” channel that has a thin skin about their News credibility.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Are you including the Photoshopped pictures of Tea Party events, inflating crowd size, as an O’Hannity lie?

Fact: Photo shopping was loony lefties cutting out sizes of crowds and putting in racist signs that were at left wing events transposing them into Tea Party events. Aka Lyndon Larue democratic presidential candidate.

Nacho said:
FoxNews opinion shows are allowed to lie, they don’t fall under the “fair and balanced” network’s catch phrase, they’re just extreme right wingnut activists on a “News” channel that has a thin skin about their News credibility.

Fact: Did you think that up for yourself or did the government help you on that one?

Stewart should have just accepted defeat and moved on. He made himelf look foolish. If there was such a word as “foolish-er” it would be more appropriate!

gordonbloyershow said:
Stewart’s credibility went out the window when he listed the first lie. It was credited to Glenn Beck. Duh? Beck is not on a Fox NEWS show. It is not a Fox NEWS statement. Most of the so called lies are by commentators not news men. The premise is that Fox NEWS lies.

The truth is Stewart LIES.

Grow up grandpa :)

Here’s one example of the difference between lies and mistakes. Bill Clinton and many leading Democrats said Iraq had WMDs. They were mistaken. Bush said Iraq had WMDs. He was lying.

BFD said:
Giving opinions about facts doesn’t give you permission to lie about them.

So why do you suppose Stewart did it? He was all adamant about it too, kinda like Weiner was.

This weird little mug , Stewart , is awfully obsessed with one TV network .

Kind of like that Stephenson guy in Austin is with Palin and her makeup .

BR said:
Stewart should have just accepted defeat and moved on. He made himelf look foolish. If there was such a word as “foolish-er” it would be more appropriate!

Don’t let reality hit you in the face on your way out buddy…..hehehe….

Bang!

Didn’t I just ?…..whatever…..hahahaha…

gordonbloyershow said:
Stewart’s credibility went out the window when he listed the first lie. It was credited to Glenn Beck. Duh? Beck is not on a Fox NEWS show. It is not a Fox NEWS statement. Most of the so called lies are by commentators not news men. The premise is that Fox NEWS lies.

The truth is Stewart LIES.

Beck has one of their most popular shows. So there’s that. Even if you want to get more technical, he passes off what he says as fact and the morning Fox news shows pick up his talking points and run with them. The whole “some people say….” deal.

I’m surprised no one ever brings up Jon’s advocacy for the 9/11 responders.
That might of been a moral issue but it was also a political one and Jon pushed pretty hard for that agenda.
You could even say he was an activist.

You would think conservatives would call him out on that when he says he isn’t trying to influence policy.
Oh well, they’re probably too stupid.

Where can you view reruns of FOX programs the best these days? – on MSNBC or Stewart’s show?

gordonbloyershow said:
Stewart’s credibility went out the window when he listed the first lie. It was credited to Glenn Beck. Duh? Beck is not on a Fox NEWS show. It is not a Fox NEWS statement. Most of the so called lies are by commentators not news men. The premise is that Fox NEWS lies.

lol…”FOX NEWS – FAIR AND BALANCED EXCEPT FOR OUR OPINION SHOWS WHERE WE ARE ALLOWED TO LIE A LOT”

BFD said:
I’m surprised no one ever brings up Jon’s advocacy for the 9/11 responders.That might of been a moral issue but it was also a political one and Jon pushed pretty hard for that agenda.You could even say he was an activist. You would think conservatives would call him out on that when he says he isn’t trying to influence policy.Oh well, they’re probably too stupid.

It’s confusing to the rational mind when JonBoy has his “comedian”-protection cap on, and he’s actually advocating for something.

I woke up this morning wondering who the most trusted in News is and was not surprised to find out, IT’S STILL FOX NEWS!!

gordonbloyershow said:
Stewart’s credibility went out the window when he listed the first lie. It was credited to Glenn Beck. Duh? Beck is not on a Fox NEWS show. It is not a Fox NEWS statement. Most of the so called lies are by commentators not news men. The premise is that Fox NEWS lies.

I’m gonna bookmark this post. It will come in handy.
By giving Fox permission to lie rarely have you made such a fool of yourself.

NORBIT Jr. said:
It’s confusing to the rational mind when JonBoy has his “comedian”-protection cap on, and he’s actually advocating for something.

Being an advocate doesn’t mean he’s not also being a comedian and satirist while doing so. Or pushing only for one side.

In any event, in this case, I’m pretty sure both sides agreed with him. It was a common sense endorsement, not Democract vs Republican.

THE REAL RABID KOOK said:
Sorry, commentary is premised on facts. If you lie about the underlying facts on which your conclusion is drawn, you’re lying. Pure and simple.

I think we have to accord you expert witness status on this one, Kook.

Gordon, do you just have one drool cup or do you use disposable ones? I’m only asking because if it’s the latter, that sounds like solid investment opportunity.

Politifact giving extra scrutiny to Fox has nothing to with the fact it’s an arm of the liberal St. Petersburg Times.

Stewart should get on his knees every night and thank God for Fox News. If it didn’t exist, where would he get most of his material? I mean it’s not like there’s any other cable outfit out there to make fun of, right?

writer said:
Politifact giving extra scrutiny to Fox has nothing to with the fact it’s an arm of the liberal St. Petersburg Times.

Exactly. And Politifact winning the Pulitzer Prize proves they are liberal shills too. Probably secretly funded by George Soros.

And down the rabbit hole we go.

potvin said:
Stewart should get on his knees every night and thank God for Fox News. If it didn’t exist, where would he get most of his material?

That would be like a doctor praying to cancer.
Sure, it keeps them busy but that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be eradicated.

And Yasser Arafat won the Nobel Peace Prize.

writer said:
And Yasser Arafat won the Nobel Peace Prize.

People learn and change–which, incidentally, makes me wonder whether you’re actually a person.

You people give waaaaaay too much credit to a 3rd rate comic on basic cable. Seriously, a couple of million college kids does not a political movement make.

BFD said:
I’m gonna bookmark this post. It will come in handy.
By giving Fox permission to lie rarely have you made such a fool of yourself.

Shoe on the other foot, if Beck and other commentators are to be lumped with the actual reporters and news anchors then the same should be done for the other networks. The vile crap that comes out of MSNBC is so disgusting that even they get suspended or otherwise lambasted by even the liberals who champion them. I hear liberal talking points on Fox every day, though I hear conservative talking points more – all the channels push talking points for the same reason camera loving politicians (like Wiener or Schumer) tend to say the most partisan and harsh things about their ‘opponents’ – whether they agree with what they are saying or not they still represent issues that way because it gets people’s attention. TV is almost entirely about keeping people tuned in, actual hard news slips in a percentage of the time, but its usually beauty queens, balloon boys, and Obama having a party that makes the airwaves, regardless of the channel. Stewart should follow up last night’s hit piece buy comparing Fox News to other outlets, and if using Politifact show how the other networks have misrepresented facts or exaggerated at times as well. At the end of the day Fox News is where CNN used to be – you are more likely to get both sides of the story, even with the conservative side given prominence, than you are from other outlets.

Once again, none of you on the left have any objections to a guy who uses the name America Sucks, with an avatar of an upside down flag. America Sucks, which country are you posting from?

timzank said:
You people give waaaaaay too much credit to a 3rd rate comic on basic cable. Seriously, a couple of million college kids does not a political movement make.

Sounds a lot like the tea party–minus the education, of course.

writer said:
Once again, none of you on the left have any objections to a guy who uses the name America Sucks, with an avatar of an upside down flag. America Sucks, which country are you posting from?

Everybody’s favorite.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
I woke up this morning wondering who the most trusted in News is and was not surprised to find out, IT’S STILL FOX NEWS!!

Sorry to ruin your morning…

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/public-policy-polling-pbs-most-trusted-fox-news-least-trusted-news-organizations_b49234

writer said:
Once again, none of you on the left have any objections to a guy who uses the name America Sucks, with an avatar of an upside down flag. America Sucks, which country are you posting from?

Flying the American flag upside-down has a specific and long-held meaning: it is an internationally recognized sign of “dire distress”. Does that help?

writer said:
Once again, none of you on the left have any objections to a guy who uses the name America Sucks, with an avatar of an upside down flag. America Sucks, which country are you posting from?

It’s nice to have somebody to keep the trolls busy.

Everybody’s favorite.

Who?

FOX is based on the premise that everyone is unfair to conservatives. That is the main flame to which the moths are drawn. Stewart’s error just brightens the flame – its good for FOX. FOX is all about emotion – its a free country good for them.

To believe FOX is peddling truth or even some balance of reporting misses the point – they are selling salve to persons whom think they are victims – conservatives. Are conservatives victims? Sure I guess sometimes. But to think big business, the Chamber of Commerce, Wall Street, the military industrial complex, churches are over-run defenseless victims – come on. That is what FOX News sells.

As I said its a free country – they sell it, many buy it.

Nice to know where you stand, Nacho.

So valk, the America Sucks name doesn’t bother you either? Why does he think it sucks? Because Obama is in charge now? Shouldn’t you libs be all over him for that?

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Everyone knows voting straight ticket democrat year after year that you don’t believe in God or have morals. God and country are farthest from your thoughts.

Great that you would say that comment in a thread that is initially about someone making a sweeping generalization and was proven to be wrong. (Jon Stewart is who I’m talking about here). Again, sweeping generalization.

Now, first, believing in God doesn’t mean you are a moral or even a good person. And again, God is not a necessary part of believing in your country. There are plenty of patriotic atheists out there. So, let’s remove God from the conversation since it doesn’t hold water at all. (For the record, I’m a deist, so yes, I do believe in God, but I don’t believe our morals come from God.)

So, let’s move to the next thing, which is to show that people on the right live up to a moral standard that the left doesn’t believe in. Well, I find that hard to believe. I mean without even mentioning Vitter, you can find plenty of morally dubious political leaders on both sides of the coin.

And finally, just the act of voting means you hold country in pretty high regards. I don’t buy into the fact that because someone has a different political POV means that they are unAmerican or don’t believe in country. I think liberals and conservatives are fighting for what they believe is right for this country.

And if you vote straight democratic or republican on a ticket doesn’t make you a morally superior or inferior person. It makes you a lazy person who won’t do any sort of research on finding the right candidate so it’s easier to let your ideology make the decision for you. If you haven’t voted for the other side, then you’re just lazy, and don’t really care about this country at all. (Ooooh, see what I did there?)

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
I woke up this morning wondering who the most trusted in News is and was not surprised to find out, IT’S STILL FOX NEWS!!

So factual accuracy is denoted by how many people trust you. OF COURSE IT ALL MAKES SENSE! Bernie Madoff, you’re off the hook; all those people trusted you so you MUST have been right.

Gotta admit it’s funny to see the tizzy Stewart sends you neocons into.

Who would have thought that a comedian would be so frustrating for the right. While he’s exposing their prominent news channel for the bullshit and lies it spews they’re complaining about a comedian.

timzank said:
You people give waaaaaay too much credit to a 3rd rate comic on basic cable. Seriously, a couple of million college kids does not a political movement make.

Then why did Wallace have him on? There was no ‘interview Jon Stewart’ petition to FOX was there? WE are giving him credit – huh? Better talk to Wallace about that…

donalan said:
Then why did Wallace have him on? There was no ‘interview Jon Stewart’ petition to FOX was there? WE are giving him credit – huh? Better talk to Wallace about that…

I don’t think they grasp that.

BFD said:
Insert more lame excuses here.

If Stewart is trying to demonstrate that FOX news is spreading misinformation, he shouldn’t include fact checking done on guests, facebook posts, and articles – and he should have done the same with the other networks.

He claims to be fact checked.wrong once – which is not true. Also, he is on two hours a week. FOX is 24/7.

—
I also completely disagree with one of the fact checking false claims against Palin’s comment about Obama’s voting record. “He never voted present in the U.S. Senate. So we find her statement False.”

His US Senate record lists about 164 NV votes, which are described as: Not Voting, Excused, Absent, or Present
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490

And: He voted “present,” effectively sidestepping the issue, an option he invoked nearly 130 times as a state senator.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html

Nacho said:
Sorry to ruin your morning…

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/public-policy-polling-pbs-most-trusted-fox-news-least-trusted-news-organizations_b49234

Hard to compare PBS with Fox, PBS is a completely different type of organization. I’m a Fox viewer yet I’d score PBS high, for social issues anyway, but I also recognize they are pretty hard left when it comes to political discourse. Of the ‘normal’ news networks Fox had the highest trust rating (also had a high distrust) showing they are still seen as the most truthful compared to other networks. Interesting that it appears PBS got its votes from those who would otherwise have voted for Fox, ABC, CBS, or CNN. NBC wasn’t effected. I think that is representative of the polling pool, those voting for NBC stayed with NBC but those who were more independant chose PBS over the other non-NBC outlets.

Politifact seems to spend an inordinate amount of time checking on Fox and Republicans. Where are the reports on all the others?

writer said:
So valk, the America Sucks name doesn’t bother you either? Why does he think it sucks? Because Obama is in charge now? Shouldn’t you libs be all over him for that?

The only person at this site that has a reasonable sounding avatar name is you, writer. (But hey, why no icon?) I stopped really carrying about that stuff after I realized that “Dumpster Baby” was one of the most intelligent posters here.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Who would have thought that a comedian would be so frustrating for the right. While he’s exposing their prominent news channel for the bullshit and lies it spews they’re complaining about a comedian.

its just a shame people take stewart seriously and credible

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Who would have thought that a comedian would be so frustrating for the right. While he’s exposing their prominent news channel for the bullshit and lies it spews they’re complaining about a comedian.

Really?

I think Rich Lowry nailed it. Politifact is a bunch of Democrats deciding on whether or not Republicans are honest.

Obama Gets 30% of Americans Certain to Support Re-Election in Economy Poll

Americans are growing more dissatisfied with President Barack Obama’s handling of the economy and say it will be hard to vote to re-elect him without seeing significant progress over the next year and a half.

By a margin of 61 percent to 37 percent, a Bloomberg National Poll conducted June 17-20 shows Americans say they believe that Obama will have had his chance to make the economy “substantially better” by the end of 2012.

Only 30 percent of respondents said they are certain to vote for the president and 36 percent said they definitely won’t. Among likely independent voters, only 23 percent said they will back his re-election, while 36 percent said they definitely will look for another candidate.

“As far as the economy goes, I don’t see that he has delivered on the change that he promised,” said Sharon Ortiz, a 38-year-old independent voter from Hampton, Virginia, who supported Obama in 2008. “The jobs that he promised — I haven’t seen it.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-22/obama-gets-30-of-americans-certain-to-support-re-election-in-economy-poll.html

If you want to talk about whose viewers are most misinformed, I think that Time poll is irrefutable evidence that Stewart’s takes the prize.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Gotta admit it’s funny to see the tizzy Stewart sends you neocons into.

Gotta admit it’s funny to see the tizzy that Stewart went into after appearing on Fox. He’s now doing damage control.

Oh well, although he is “just a comedian” you lefties are all aflutter over your Jonny being questioned about his honesty meter.

writer said:
Politifact seems to spend an inordinate amount of time checking on Fox and Republicans. Where are the reports on all the others?

In their defense, Media Matters and the Daily Kos haven’t sent them many tips to investigate. When Newsbusters sends them a tip, they get an ‘Undeliverable” message.

cjd ohio 1 said:
its just a shame people take stewart seriously and credible

Like I said before; take him seriously to a degree. I don’t take everything he says seriously but you have to admit that it is funny how much he gets under people’s skin for just saying what he feels. I don’t think Obama posts even get this many responses.

Pablo said:
Really?

Are you saying Fox isn’t the number 1 news channel for conservatives?

he is funny most of the time, like his show, but never take him seriously , he is just a comic

I think it’s kind of funny that Jon has managed to focus attention on Politifact and we’ve already proven that a # of their truth meter responses are in fact not true.

Perhaps he might regret doing so.

I checked out 2 – false
I see Sarah’s got one that’s false

so……

seek said:
Gotta admit it’s funny to see the tizzy that Stewart went into after appearing on Fox. He’s now doing damage control.

Oh well, although he is “just a comedian” you lefties are all aflutter over your Jonny being questioned about his honesty meter.

What interview did you watch? I saw a Fox anchor behave in their stereotypical vitriolic manner towards a guest (probably why people at CPAC told Maddow they could learn something from her on how to treat guests).

Exactly, he’s a comedian on a comedy channel and your prominent news anchors and yourself are responding to him and getting all up in arms over his words. is it because they hit home? Are you upset he cited politifact articles which show Fox lies?

Fox is the only news outlet that doesn’t lean left. That’s why the liberals at politifact give it the extra scrutiny.

cjd ohio 1 said:
he is funny most of the time, like his show, but never take him seriously , he is just a comic

Comedy frequently delivers poignant criticism. Does his status as a comedian make his pointing out of misleading editing any less valid?

writer said:
Fox is the only news outlet that doesn’t lean left. That’s why the liberals at politifact give it the extra scrutiny.

Yesterday politifact was the best thing since sliced bread when they rated Stewart wrong and now that he points out where they called Fox liars they have a liberal bias? I can’t keep up with the bullshit anymore.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Comedy frequently delivers poignant criticism. Does his status as a comedian make his pointing out of misleading editing any less valid?

just saying i dont take a comic seriously

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Are you saying Fox isn’t the number 1 news channel for conservatives?

Does it look like I’m saying that? Did I say anything that could possibly be construed as meaning anything like that?

549 posts on this one. Hilarious. I love it.

cjd ohio 1 said:
just saying i dont take a comic seriously

Understandable, but I’d hope you could see that just being a comic doesn’t take away from the validity of his criticism or necessarily mean he’s wrong.

Reasonable, just as Stewart will occasionally pick on a liberal, politifact will too. They have to keep up appearances. But politifact is run by the liberal St. Petersburg Times. If Fox News was such a ‘fact finding’ blog, how much would you be touting it?

Pablo said:
Does it look like I’m saying that? Did I say anything that could possibly be construed as meaning anything like that?

It appeared that’s what you were insinuating. If not then your post had little relevance to what I was saying. Your defense is flimsy at best.

writer said:
Reasonable, just as Stewart will occasionally pick on a liberal, politifact will too. They have to keep up appearances. But politifact is run by the liberal St. Petersburg Times. If Fox News was such a ‘fact finding’ blog, how much would you be touting it?

In the words of Sarah marshall: bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit.
You neocons pulls this crap anytime somebody criticizes you and automatically say they have a liberal bias. Lying is lying. Politifact frequently picks up on liberals. How often do you visit the site? “Obama-meter”? Take your head out of your ass.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Understandable, but I’d hope you could see that just being a comic doesn’t take away from the validity of his criticism or necessarily mean he’s wrong.

comedy is always funny with a bit of truth mixed in, but take him the same as chris rock, or don rickles

CosmosDan said:
549 posts on this one. Hilarious. I love it.

Same.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
It appeared that’s what you were insinuating. If not then your post had little relevance to what I was saying. Your defense is flimsy at best.

44% of Americans polled by Time Magazine call Jon Stewart “Americas Most Trusted Newscaster”. You don’t see how that’s relevant to your “They’re so silly! He’s just a comedian!” notion?

Alrighty then. There are none so blind…

cjd ohio 1 said:
comedy is always funny with a bit of truth mixed in, but take him the same as chris rock, or don rickles

I respectfully disagree. Yes, they’re all hilarious, but those guys stuff rests primarily on exaggeration. Stewart’s is much more reality based and limited to actual events. Mind you he does go a bit off in some of his skits, but he still maintains a realistic perspective. I mean it’s more likely that a cable news network is going to lie than it is that Regis Philbin will stab chris rock with a pen while calling him the n-word.

Take your head out of your ass.

Gosh, Reasonable. You seem to be getting unreasonable. I thought you libs were the nice ones. Yeah, I’ve checked the Obama meter. More often than not, politifact presents any unkept promises as being held up by Republicans, or still in the works. Nothing is ever his fault.

Pablo said:
44% of Americans polled by Time Magazine call Jon Stewart “Americas Most Trusted Newscaster”. You don’t see how that’s relevant to your “They’re so silly! He’s just a comedian!” notion?

Alrighty then. There are none so blind…

It’s not. Has nothing to do with the post YOU RESPONDED TO which addressed FOX NEWS as the PROMINENT SOURCE FOR CONSERVATIVES. Not too hard to grasp here. Last I checked didn’t Fox have the higher ratings which you always try to tout and didn’t a poll by WaPo show fox as the most trusted?

Well like the leftist sites that like to feed raw meat to thier followers, whomever wrote this for mediate is just cherry-picking the Stewart piece. I actually watched it. Stewart mocks himself for the first 2 minutes.

The quote “It turns out that I was misinformed,” Stewart began, highlighting the comment that PolitiFact took objection to, “which is no surprise, since I watch a lot of Fox News.” is clearly a joke (he actually says “I watch a lot of Fox Ne – oh there, I did it again” when the audience claps he says “dont applaud my ignorance…”

It is funny satire. BTW he does apologize and admit he was wrong (for 2 minutes). The rest of the bit is funny because he illustrates how many lies PolitiFact has found in FOX and the fact that FOX never retracts or apologizes…

writer said:
Take your head out of your ass.

Gosh, Reasonable. You seem to be getting unreasonable. I thought you libs were the nice ones. Yeah, I’ve checked the Obama meter. More often than not, politifact presents any unkept promises as being held up by Republicans, or still in the works. Nothing is ever his fault.

It’s not unreasonable when you refuse to see reality and discard everything that goes against your narrow world view as biased. What’s funny about your statement is that on that site I see “stalled” or “in the works” I also see “not yet rated” but no held up by republicans category. I also see a lot of “broken”. That seems to contradict what you’re saying. Maybe you should retool your bullshit.

Unreasonable, I didn’t say they never criticize a liberal. Just said it looks like they go after conservatives a lot more often. Politifact is run by a liberal paper. But to you, that means absolutely nothing. So stop your bullshit.

like i said yesterday folks, let’s see a list of recent fox news lies via politifact.

and john stewart did it for me (and made mediaite look pretty stupid by linking to it,
and not all the fox news lies)

awesome!!!!!!

DON’T MAKE JON STEWART GET ANGRY:
JON STEWART GETS MAD!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdW4geJ-lik

I guess Reasonable would say that since Michael Moore has criticized Obama, that means Mike is always straight down the middle, and to categorize him as being liberal would be ‘bullshit’.

writer said:
Unreasonable, I didn’t say they never criticize a liberal. Just said it looks like they go after conservatives a lot more often. Politifact is run by a liberal paper. But to you, that means absolutely nothing. So stop your bullshit.

Now you’re just trying to dig yourself out of your own hole. You’re trying to insinuate that they can’t do a fair and accurate job of reporting when that’s not the case because they do it all the time. Politifact has been the subject of just as much scrutiny from liberals as conservatives. I implore you to do an actual balance between liberal comments rated on the site and conservative.

writer said:
I guess Reasonable would say that since Michael Moore has criticized Obama, that means Mike is always straight down the middle, and to categorize him as being liberal would be ‘bullshit’.

Straw man. Please stop misrepresenting my views.

My parents taught me that when I made a mistake, to own up to it, say I was wrong, and apologize for being wrong. Do liberals teach their children that instead you should blame others? I really would like to know, it seems to happen all the time with Maddow, Stewart, NBC, etc…

If so, thank you mom and dad. I’d hate to lack integrity like that!

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
What interview did you watch? I saw a Fox anchor behave in their stereotypical vitriolic manner towards a guest (probably why people at CPAC told Maddow they could learn something from her on how to treat guests).

Exactly, he’s a comedian on a comedy channel and your prominent news anchors and yourself are responding to him and getting all up in arms over his words. is it because they hit home? Are you upset he cited politifact articles which show Fox lies?

I was responding to the present mediaite story. As for the interview, Wallace was very polite and not confrontational in the least. The man is classy – none of the Lawrence “take down” attempts. Yes, Rachel could definitely learn from one of the best.

Since then, the left wing has been doing damage control because nobody but nobody believed Jon (obviously the left didn’t either thus the need to keep this story going).

Please, I’m quite astute and don’t need edification from anyone on the left, but thanks.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
I bet Rupert & Roger wish people would stop talking about this interview. I bet they instruct their on-air talent, via a Sammons memo, to stop talking about it. The conclusion is inescapable: Wallace let the cat out into the yard, and chasing it is never going to capture it. It seems time to turn Dylan Thomas on his head and go gently into that good night. From a FOX “News” perspective, the less said, the better. Of course, Jon Stewart probably disagrees.

They were so foolish taking on Stewart on this level. Was that Wallace’s fault, going there in the first place? I mean if you want to get down and dirty, mediamatters.org has hundreds of Fox lies, and outrageous right wing comments of all kinds, set to go. Fox needs to button up and wait till the comics have finished picking the bones of this battlefield.

writer said:
Unreasonable, I didn’t say they never criticize a liberal. Just said it looks like they go after conservatives a lot more often. Politifact is run by a liberal paper. But to you, that means absolutely nothing. So stop your bullshit.

Politifact does a great job, and is fair regardless of viewpoint. They do seem to get a lot more feedback from liberals, likely because the media and academics are highly liberal. Yet, in their analysis they really do an excellent job. No one’s perfect, but they really are the best unbiased source around and should be commended for their service to the pubic good.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
It’s not. Has nothing to do with the post YOU RESPONDED TO which addressed FOX NEWS as the PROMINENT SOURCE FOR CONSERVATIVES. Not too hard to grasp here.

What’s not too hard to grasp is that the post I was responding to was the one I quoted:

Who would have thought that a comedian would be so frustrating for the right. While he’s exposing their prominent news channel for the bullshit and lies it spews they’re complaining about a comedian.

Do you not get your own point?

Reasonable, I get your point. If you’re liberal, you’re still capable of being fair. So if a conservative organization had a blog similar to the St. Petersburg Times’ Politifact, you’d likewise argue that no bias could be involved.

darladoon said:

awesome!!!!!!

so yesterday you were a 50 something media professional and today you are one of lady gaga’s little monsters?

568 Comments and growing by the minute.

You FOX “News” fans have me in stitches again today!

lane said:
Politifact does a great job, and is fair regardless of viewpoint. They do seem to get a lot more feedback from liberals, likely because the media and academics are highly liberal. Yet, in their analysis they really do an excellent job. No one’s perfect, but they really are the best unbiased source around and should be commended for their service to the pubic good.

No, Factcheck.org is much better. PolitiFact slings a lot of crap. It’s not all crap, mind you, but a lot of it is. Here’s an example.

darladoon said:
like i said yesterday folks, let’s see a list of recent fox news lies via politifact.

and john stewart did it for me (and made mediaite look pretty stupid by linking to it,
and not all the fox news lies)

awesome!!!!!!

Actually Darla, if you want a job for the day – take any one of the “fox lies” and check it with reality (not politifact) – you might be in for a small shock, but since you’re young, you’ll recover.

Seriously girlfriend – for starters check how often Obama voted “present” and then tell me who’s lying or varnishing the “truth”.

In all fairness, King, part of the comments are from the left.

valkyrie101 said:
They were so foolish taking on Stewart on this level. Was that Wallace’s fault, going there in the first place? I mean if you want to get down and dirty, mediamatters.org has hundreds of Fox lies, and outrageous right wing comments of all kinds, set to go. Fox needs to button up and wait till the comics have finished picking the bones of this battlefield.

Good advice, but I don’t think they are disciplined enough to restrain themselves. And, they just keep making it worse and worse for themselves.

valkyrie101 said:
mediamatters.org has hundreds of Fox lies

True, but nobody listens to Media Mutters’ Fox lies. There’s no audience absorbing the lies, aside from a handful of crackpots.

writer said:
In all fairness, King, part of the comments are from the left.

It’s the shrill, high-pitched, “Rupert is my Messiah and Roger is my Prophet” ones who are funny, however. The Rightists so love to be victims.

If you want to get the straight scoop on conservatives, go to a blog owned by a left wing newspaper.

Funny, King. I didn’t see anyone saying ‘Rupert is my Messiah’. Who said it?

Haimerej said:
The “accumulated more debt than previous presidents combined” for example, came from Sarah Palin in an interview she did with Greta Van Susteren promoting her bus tour. Not exactly a Fox News story touting that as true and we’re all aware that other organizations don’t make a habit of fact checking all the things their interviewed people say.

That’s a valid point. But Sarah, is a paid Fox contributor right? I might expect Greta to at least challenge it, and if she didn’t have the information at hand , she can check it and comment on it later right? That’s kinda their job and responsibility isn’t it? That’s the thing Jon talks about all the time of nerws outlets, {not just Fox} being lazy, allowing people to fling false crap, and get away with it.
Seems to me I’ve seen that particular lie repeated on this board and on other places. The normal MO of Fox, is to keep mentioning it even if it’s the “some people say” technique, just to make sure their audience hears it enough, and reacts viscerally. Funny thing is, Cantor made a similar false claim on the Daily Show, and then corrected after the fact.

Haimerej said:
The, “Muslim brotherhood.. war against Israel” claim seems to be a technicality.

Which is precisely what happened to Jon right? Poltifact has to apply some standard to come to it’s conclusions, and Jon’s was technically false because of the words he used but generally true. That’s fine by me since I think choice of words matter and getting in the habit of choosing accurate language is important.

Haimerej said:
I’ll add that those two examples didn’t come from the hard news shows and I’m sure most of them don’t.

That may be true, but Jon’s beef is with Fox as a network. IMO, even opinion shows have an ethical responsibility to be factually correct when offering commentary. A practice I’ve noticed with Fox is having their guest commentators make the questionable statement so it gets out there without them having to own it. IMO, it’s still their responsibility to challenge those statements, and to explore them on air.
I’ll note that other networks do this as well. The desire to get people going emotionally for the sake of ratings has taken precedent over informing. That’s a real failing IMO.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Good advice, but I don’t think they are disciplined enough to restrain themselves. And, they just keep making it worse and worse for themselves.

Yes, Stewart might regret going there. As for your statement – just flip it around and you’re right. I don’t think Fox is worried in the least. Just exposing more bias by a supposedly “unbiased” organization. Obviously not true as evidenced already and just getting worse. So, yes, it is getting worse and worse for the left.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
It’s the shrill, high-pitched, “Rupert is my Messiah and Roger is my Prophet” ones who are funny, however. The Rightists so love to be victims.

No shrill, no ‘tude no nothing. We save that for Olbermann, Maddow, Lawrence etc. Isn’t that funny?

We are never victims because truth always shows up and sort of puts the damper on your “early celebration”. So, you might try and victimize us, but it usually backfires big time bro.
Just sit and watch. lol

Of course, my funniest excuse, even funnier than “I got drunk on wine coolers.,” is “Only the commentators at FOX ‘News’ lie. The news people tell the truth.”, made even funnier by the fact that the entire evening line-up is commentary. Might as well say, “At FOX ‘News’ we only lie when our mouths are open.”

seek said:
Yes, Stewart might regret going there. As for your statement – just flip it around and you’re right. I don’t think Fox is worried in the least. Just exposing more bias by a supposedly “unbiased” organization. Obviously not true as evidenced already and just getting worse. So, yes, it is getting worse and worse for the left.

If denial makes you feel better, then what right do I have to say otherwise?

Why not just be honest, King? (A rhetorical question) Bottom line is, all the other networks lean left, and you can’t stand it that there’s even one that doesn’t. You’re afraid people might actually start to question all of your far left opinions that you toss out as fact.

Haimerej said:
“Fair and balanced” doesn’t mean, “error free.”

I don’t expect ant news organization to be error free. It seems now that the rush to get the story out there results in more errors. What I do expect is on air corrections. Even online ones so they can be checked later. Newspapers have issued corrections and retractions when they get it wrong. I’d expect any news organizations, and commentators to have a corrections corner that the public can check, or at least make fact checking of guests and corrections a part of your show, rather than arbitrarily deciding what falsehood to admit to.

Jon Stewart is quickly becoming boring.

writer said:
Why not just be honest, King? (A rhetorical question) Bottom line is, all the other networks lean left, and you can’t stand it that there’s even one that doesn’t. You’re afraid people might actually start to question all of your far left opinions that you toss out as fact.

of course, anyone in the land of non-thinkers, those who “lean left” are those
to the left of the tea party.

And darladoon, to you and the King, anyone to the right of Chairman Mao is a right wing reactionary.

in today’s political culture, john huntsmann “leans left”

writer said:
And darladoon, to you and the King, anyone to the right of Chairman Mao is a right wing reactionary.

what?

writer said:
And darladoon, to you and the King, anyone to the right of Chairman Mao is a right wing reactionary.

why don’t you respond to my point, before you make your point.

because my point actually has some substantive quality to it.

yours, on the other hand, makes absolutely no sense.

Just saying, darladoon, that from the extreme far left, everyone else looks far right.

darladoon said:
what?

You heard him.

obama, by the way, is right of center.

on tax policy, obama is the to the right of reagan, for instance.

writer said:
Just saying, darladoon, that from the extreme far left, everyone else looks far right.

of course, by “extreme far left” you mean “obama”, i suppose?

or is CNN also “extreme”?

THE FAKE ROYAL KING said:
then what right do I have to say otherwise?

None.

writer said:
Why not just be honest, King? (A rhetorical question) Bottom line is, all the other networks lean left, and you can’t stand it that there’s even one that doesn’t. You’re afraid people might actually start to question all of your far left opinions that you toss out as fact.

Gosh, that’s so unfair that you have to fight everyone else. It’s sort of like being chased every day by African Americans at your school, isn’t it?

darladoon, what was your point? You said those who lean left are left of the tea party. So likewise, when anyone is as far left as you, most people must seem to be on the right. Anything to the right of Bill Ayers is a conservative.

Jaurez said:
You heard him.

i can’t hear words, i can see words, but his words meant nothing.

Azarkhan said:
Jon Stewart is quickly becoming boring.

The number of comments on this thread most assuredly establishes otherwise, doesn’t it?

Azarkhan said:
Jon Stewart is quickly becoming boring.

That must be why there’s almost 600 comments on this story and under 30 re: Huntsman.

writer said:
darladoon, what was your point? You said those who lean left are left of the tea party. So likewise, when anyone is as far left as you, most people must seem to be on the right. Anything to the right of Bill Ayers is a conservative.

no, a conservative is someone like……ronald reagan. ok?

now, if reagan were around today, he would be a RINO, absolutely!

in fact, he might be even “worse” than a RINO. he might be a liberal, by today’s
right wing standard.

Gosh, that’s so unfair that you have to fight everyone else. It’s sort of like being chased every day by African Americans at your school, isn’t it?

I’m so glad you said that, King. Everyone, the King is always mocking the idea that a black person could ever commit a race-based crime. So go look up DOJ and FBI crime statistics. Then come back, reread the King’s post, and see if he’s right.

writer says:
If you want to get the straight scoop on conservatives, go to a blog owned by a left wing newspaper.
…………………………………………………………
“Fox” is always correct, because we “teas” say so! What about facts,….(teas) no they don’t count all media other than “Fox” is liberal media! Sooo, if “Fox” is wrong,… their right and if other media is right, their wrong,…..(teas) that’s correct!

Pablo said:
True, but nobody listens to Media Mutters’ Fox lies. There’s no audience absorbing the lies, aside from a handful of crackpots.

Well I know that is how the right defines mediamatters, but they have hundreds of video tapes that Stewart could access till the cows come home on this.

all i’m trying to say is that the spectrum has shifted harder and harder to the
right over the last 30 years.

the super rich have fleeced the middle class, gained super powers over the
congress, and lowered their share of the burden.

and they own the political discourse (see: fox news on down)

that is why we have completely duped morons ruling the comments section.

THE FAKE ROYAL KING said:
The number of comments on this thread most assuredly establishes otherwise, doesn’t it?

Funny you mention that, fraud. The Beck and Palin threads always get the highest number of posts. ROFLMBAO!!!!!!

Jaurez said:
Funny you mention that, fraud. The Beck and Palin threads always get the highest number of posts. ROFLMBAO!!!!!!

not always (obviously)

Bill Huggins said:
That must be why there’s almost 600 comments on this story and under 30 re: Huntsman.

And 25 on the olbermann threads! ROFLMBAO!!!!!

606 and still growing. That’s an awful lot of angst my little Radical Rightist Reactionary Republican friends.

Jaurez said:
THE FAKE ROYAL KING said:
The number of comments on this thread most assuredly establishes otherwise, doesn’t it?

Funny you mention that, fraud. The Beck and Palin threads always get the highest number of posts. ROFLMBAO!!!!!!

I understand that the Bus Tour Across America has ended, well less than half way across and Familie Palin has returned to Alaska. We can only hope that they didn’t stop for wine coolers.

King, do you really want me to start quoting crime statistics? You’re going to look pretty stupid. (Of course, that’s never stopped you before.)

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
I understand that the Bus Tour Across America has ended, well less than half way across

Now, I understand why Palin doesn’t wear contact lenses, or should a say a contact lens.

Haimerej said:
I don’t think she was “contributing” so much as being interviewed about her bus tour. I think there’s a difference between being interviewed and being a pundit.

I’m not saying she was right, but I think you can find just as many “lies” for other news organizations as you can for Fox. Which to me, makes Stewart’s claims of not being activist seem pretty shallow. You can’t say he goes after MSNBC with as much vigor as he does Fox. They’re just as error prone and ideological as Fox is.

So he’s an activist for going after a network more often? I think what Stewart did was respond to conservatives apparent need to discredit him because they can’t really understand the distinction between political satire and what is supposed to be journalism. He tried to explain that to Chris and Wallace went after him as if he’s supposed to be fair on a fake news show. Jon used politifact to bolster his point that Fox is more of an activist. Do any of those errors listed make conservatives look bad. If they are just “honest” mistakes, wouldn’t that happen every now and then? I think it’s true that Jon leans left and that influences his show. That’s not the same as activism, because his goal is comedy, not influencing people’s thoughts and decisions.
News networks have a specific job description which includes informing the public of all relevant facts on important issues. Opinion shows, talking heads, choose whatever you want to talk about, but still be accurate when it comes to facts.

Glen Beck used to irritate the hell out of me but I finally realized there was a certain portion of the public that were going to take his crap seriously. Now conservatives seem to be irritated by this comic because a certain portion of the public take him seriously, but I think a lot of his audience actually understands what satire is. The TV news media is doing a lousy job and they don’t like it because a satirist keeps pointing that out , and the public enjoys him doing it.

Jon expressed his opinion about Fox being more of a political activist than the other networks. Maybe he’s wrong, although I don’t think so, but I’d be glad to look at any data to show the unchallenged errors of other networks , ratios of conservative vs liberal guests, etc.
The question is

King, DOJ and FBI crime stats. You want some or not?

Skip watching Fox “News” and their lies tonight .
Read Bristol Palin’s book so you can stock up on your ” insights” into the Palin children .

Do you ever just creep yourself out with your obsession with the Palin family ?

They ‘ve done no harm to you , Robert .

Leave them alone .

writer said:
King, do you really want me to start quoting crime statistics? You’re going to look pretty stupid. (Of course, that’s never stopped you before.)

Please, do what you will. But are you telling me some law enforcement agency really has statistics of the number of times you have been chased by African Americans?

Big Eddie said:
Skip watching Fox “News” and their lies tonight .
Read Bristol Palin’s book so you can stock up on your ” insights” into the Palin children .

Do you ever just creep yourself out with your obsession with the Palin family ?

They ‘ve done no harm to you , Robert .

Leave them alone .

I think I’ll have a wine cooler and forget about them.

insideguy said:
No Hamerej but FOX claims to be be fair and balanced MSNBC does not.

I think this is lame. If you’re a news network you are supposed to be fair and balanced by job description. It’s one think to note that a comedy show doesn’t have that requirement, but suggesting a news network doesn’t have to be fair and balanced just because they don’t have that specific slogan, is silly.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
Now, I understand why Palin doesn’t wear contact lenses, or should a say a contact lens.

Why do you care ?

Did she make sport of your toupee ?

Did Sarah laugh at your outfit ?
Your makeup ?
Your simple string of bottle caps you wear as a necklace ?

I just don’t understand it….how could someone watch this and STILL say they just love Fox News? “Fair and Balanced?” “We Report. You Decide?” Their slogans are farcical in and of themselves.

Doesn’t it it get all little embarrassing tirelessly defending FNC? When looking at the number of comments I guess not.

Haimerej said:
Right. I don’t see why he can’t acknowledge the general liberal tilt of the media though. I don’t think that would harm his shtick any.

He did during the interview with Wallace. He said to Chris, “I’m not saying there is no bias” and later, “There probably is bias because the people working in the media tend to be liberal” He was trying to explain his own statements that Wallace led with. The difference between bias, laziness, and outright activism for a political cause. And again, it’s only his opinion, but he bases it on a career that requires him to watch countless news clips.

im_lovin_it said:
I just don’t understand it….how could someone watch this and STILL say they just love Fox News? “Fair and Balanced?” “We Report. You Decide?” Their slogans are farcical in and of themselves.

Because like everything else, when people try to attack FOX, this little bit wasn’t really truthy.

sarainitaly said:
If Stewart is trying to demonstrate that FOX news is spreading misinformation, he shouldn’t include fact checking done on guests, facebook posts, and articles – and he should have done the same with the other networks.

He claims to be fact checked.wrong once – which is not true. Also, he is on two hours a week. FOX is 24/7.

—
I also completely disagree with one of the fact checking false claims against Palin’s comment about Obama’s voting record. “He never voted present in the U.S. Senate. So we find her statement False.”

His US Senate record lists about 164 NV votes, which are described as: Not Voting, Excused, Absent, or Present
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490

And: He voted “present,” effectively sidestepping the issue, an option he invoked nearly 130 times as a state senator.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html

sarainitaly said:
At least 8 of those statements were made by guests on FOX during interviews.
One was from Sarah Palin’s Facebook page.
One was from a column O’Reilly wrote. I wouldn’t really call those FOX *lies*
Three of four were by FOX & friends – does anyone really take Doocey seriously?
And the majority of the rest were Beck. – Beck is leaving.

If FOX & friends are NOT the least misinformed viewers, what does that say about the information the other stations are putting out?

MSNBC fact checked by politifact – At least 38 fibs from hosts alone – that they bothered to fact check.
And where are all the fact checked lies from their guests/interviews?
Schultz
Matthews
Scarborough
Lawrence O’Donnell
Maddow
Cenk Uygur – he wasn’t included but his recent coverage of Weinergate should get him fired, or laughed out of town
David Gregory
Olbermann

it’s blatantly obvious, from the reading the comments here, that most people forget
what a liberal actually is (or was).

for starters, liberals want a progressive tax structure, e.g. tax increases
on the wealthy, for starters.

the mainstream media, by and large, tend to support the status quo, and
scorn or ignore any question of raising taxes on the wealthy, even if
doing so would help balance the budget.

instead, individuals in the media who call for tax increases are generally
fringe candidates or pundits, who are often shouted down by hosts
or other guests.

the same can be applied to climate change and healthcare reform.

and btw, ‘obamacare’ is not a liberal idea. it’s a conservative one.

the only truly liberal healthcare idea would be……single payer.

Here are some of those stats, King. Laugh it up.

between 2001 and 2003, blacks were 39 times more likely to commit violent crimes against whites than the reverse, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.

* Between 2001 and 2003, blacks committed, on average, 15,400 black-on-white rapes per year, while whites averaged only 900 white-on-black rapes per year.

Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.

Haimerej said:
Oh, that, “Lie of the Year” about death panels was Sarah Palin. She made the statement in 2009 and didn’t sign on with Fox until 2010. So is Stewart saying that anything a Republican ever says is Fox News’ responsibility?

Sarah was not the only one crying death panels. That statement was making the rounds on Fox, although, I did watch a clip on Fox with Betsy Mcwaht’sherface, who is credited with starting that one, and another person, who argued it was not accurate. In that case they did give both arguments equal time.

In a poll Politifact left out dealing specifically with the HCB, Fox viewers rated highest on believing certain bad information, including that one.

writer said:
Here are some of those stats, King. Laugh it up.

between 2001 and 2003, blacks were 39 times more likely to commit violent crimes against whites than the reverse, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.

* Between 2001 and 2003, blacks committed, on average, 15,400 black-on-white rapes per year, while whites averaged only 900 white-on-black rapes per year.

Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.

gee, i wonder why blacks commit more crimes? shocking statistics…..

(yawn)

CosmosDan said:
Sarah was not the only one crying death panels. That statement was making the rounds on Fox, although, I did watch a clip on Fox with Betsy Mcwaht’sherface, who is credited with starting that one, and another person, who argued it was not accurate. In that case they did give both arguments equal time.

In a poll Politifact left out dealing specifically with the HCB, Fox viewers rated highest on believing certain bad information, including that one.

if you keep saying something over and over again, people eventually believe it.

and fox is the undisputed MASTER of that.

darladoon, the King keeps mocking the idea of blacks vicimizing whites. From the stats, it would appear that lots of people are being ‘chased’.

Bill Huggins said:
That must be why there’s almost 600 comments on this story and under 30 re: Huntsman.

Stewart is never boring to his leftwing sycophants who comment on Mediaite. As for Huntsman, please, I couldn’t care less about Obama Lite.

@sara

Why must you people persist? Look at yourself. You’re trying to say that Fox News is fine because all the other networks lie. You’re saying it’s alright that FNC is wrong because they can’t just be on two hours a week . How many times have you heard that it’s okay that Hannity talks out his ass because he’s “opinion?” Fox and Friends can say whatever craziness they want because it’s just a morning show. When do the goal posts stop moving?

I think all the media in this country is bad. FNC is just the worst of them. Could you imagine if Jon Stewart devoted a week specifically to everything absurd that’s been on Fox News?

darladoon said:
gee, i wonder why blacks commit more crimes?

Because leftists like you can’t stop kissing their black a@@?

Azarkhan said:
Stewart is never boring to his leftwing sycophants who comment on Mediaite. As for Huntsman, please, I couldn’t care less about Obama Lite.

case in point comment

huntsmann is actually a liberal

and mediaite has a lot of liberal commenters

lol

Azarkhan said:
Because leftists like you can’t stop kissing their black a@@?

I love you guys. I’m sure that if you were born in the worst parts of Gary, Indiana you would just pull yourself up by your bootstraps, right? I mean….the American Dream is for everybody!

Azarkhan said:
Because leftists like you can’t stop kissing their black a@@?

i am black, so watch your mouth

Far leftists such as the King think it’s a tragedy if a white person attacks a black person. But reverse it, and he thinks it’s funny.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
606 and still growing. That’s an awful lot of angst my little Radical Rightist Reactionary Republican friends.

Fortunately they have us devil’s advocates to help. :-)

darladoon said:
gee, i wonder why blacks commit more crimes? shocking statistics…..

(yawn)

I wonder why you are a conservative… maybe because you hate____. (liberals?)

Very telling how few of these comments are Fox fans defending them against these damning Politifact’s findings and how many are trying to change the subject.

Azarkhan said:
Because leftists like you can’t stop kissing their black a@@?

Another conservative, what a surprise…

writer said:
Once again, none of you on the left have any objections to a guy who uses the name America Sucks, with an avatar of an upside down flag.

I don’t like it. Think it’s a bad choice, but it’s not a big deal. Just as a thought, What about all the name calling and insults hurled at fellow citizens that goes on here every day. I don’t comment on them much because if I did I wouldn’t have time for anything else, but man, I’m so tired of people from either side having nothing to offer but degrading those who don’t agree with them.

im_lovin_it said:
@sara

Why must you people persist? Look at yourself. You’re trying to say that Fox News is fine because all the other networks lie. You’re saying it’s alright that FNC is wrong because they can’t just be on two hours a week . How many times have you heard that it’s okay that Hannity talks out his ass because he’s “opinion?” Fox and Friends can say whatever craziness they want because it’s just a morning show. When do the goal posts stop moving?

I think all the media in this country is bad. FNC is just the worst of them. Could you imagine if Jon Stewart devoted a week specifically to everything absurd that’s been on Fox News?

no, that’s not what i’m saying. i’m saying that FOX viewers are the most misinformed – as Stewart claimed. There are other viewers from other networks that are MORE misinformed. Stewart tried to discredit FOX by listing a ton of *fox lies* – so, if their viewers are not as miinformed as other networks, once must assume that the other networks are pumping out MORE lies/misinformation.

Also, as I said, at least 8 of his examples were made by GUESTS appearing on the channel, SP’s FB page, and columns written. If you are going to try to discredit FOX you should use examples of FOX employees making those statements. Not guests, interviewees, or Sarah Palin’s facebook page. Also, he is ignoring that the other networks make as many if not more errors than FOX.

People get facts wrong sometimes. Sh*t happens. Obama has lots of his own lies and false statements.

Stewart was bragging about his limited number of errors – i pointed out that he does 4 1/2 hour shows a week. FOX is on 24/7. Of course they are going to have more errors, based on the number of hours alone.

Fox and Friends – don’t get me started. The two guys drive me crazy. But I have yet to see politifact dedicate the amount of hours fact chekcing F&F than they do Morning Joe, or Today show. And you can not tell me that those hacks that appear on Morning Joe are not spreading misinformation at times. They are.

Could you imagine if Stewart devoted a week to just highlighting all the crazy sh*t from MSNBC??? NOW that would be interesting, and hilarious. FOX is not the worst of them – you only think that because you hate them/disagree with them.

writer said:
Here are some of those stats, King. Laugh it up.

between 2001 and 2003, blacks were 39 times more likely to commit violent crimes against whites than the reverse, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.

* Between 2001 and 2003, blacks committed, on average, 15,400 black-on-white rapes per year, while whites averaged only 900 white-on-black rapes per year.

Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.

You forgot white conservative christians are 1000 times more likely to invade a country.

The King sort of derailed the original topic for a bit. He always has to go out of his way to remind me that black people don’t commit racial crimes. Back to topic, it’s also a fact that politifact is owned by a liberal newspaper. If it’s possible for Fox to have a right wing bias, why is it impossible for politifact to let their politic influence their reports?

“You forgot white conservative christians are 1000 times more likely to invade a country.”

So that changes the crime stats how?

sarainitaly said:. FOX is not the worst of them – you only think that because you hate them/disagree with them.

You actually said some sensible things in your post, but I have to disagree with this bit that I’ve quoted. I don’t think that FOX is the worst because I hate/disagree with them. On the contrary, it’s precisely because they ARE the worst of the lot that I love them–apart from being wildly entertaining, they perform a kind of ironic public service by training new viewers to think critically about the media.

In all honesty, I came to my belief about FNC’s overall shoddiness long before the Stewarts and Politifacts, etc., came along. I started watching just because I was tired of CNN, and after a few days I was simply astounded–not so much by the misinformation as by the thinly veiled master narrative they were weaving. It really was/is unlike anything I’d ever seen on a “news” channel.

darladoon said:
i am black, so watch your mouth

now you are black? lmao!!

sarainitaly said:
no, that’s not what i’m saying. i’m saying that FOX viewers are the most misinformed – as Stewart claimed.

crap – fox viewers are NOT the most misinformed, as stewart claimed. that’s what i get for eating cherries while trying to type.

FOX is no match for Jon Stewart. They should stick to their cocoon of teabillies and flat earth believers.

darladoon said:
i am black, so watch your mouth

I call BS on that. I haven’t once heard you say, “M-Fer, I Want More Iced Tea!” Not a single time.

sarainitaly said:
no, that’s not what i’m saying. i’m saying that FOX viewers are the most misinformed – as Stewart claimed. There are other viewers from other networks that are MORE misinformed. Stewart tried to discredit FOX by listing a ton of *fox lies* – so, if their viewers are not as miinformed as other networks, once must assume that the other networks are pumping out MORE lies/misinformation.

Also, as I said, at least 8 of his examples were made by GUESTS appearing on the channel, SP’s FB page, and columns written. If you are going to try to discredit FOX you should use examples of FOX employees making those statements. Not guests, interviewees, or Sarah Palin’s facebook page. Also, he is ignoring that the other networks make as many if not more errors than FOX.

People get facts wrong sometimes. Sh*t happens. Obama has lots of his own lies and false statements.

Stewart was bragging about his limited number of errors – i pointed out that he does 4 1/2 hour shows a week. FOX is on 24/7. Of course they are going to have more errors, based on the number of hours alone.

Fox and Friends – don’t get me started. The two guys drive me crazy. But I have yet to see politifact dedicate the amount of hours fact chekcing F&F than they do Morning Joe, or Today show. And you can not tell me that those hacks that appear on Morning Joe are not spreading misinformation at times. They are.

Could you imagine if Stewart devoted a week to just highlighting all the crazy sh*t from MSNBC??? NOW that would be interesting, and hilarious. FOX is not the worst of them – you only think that because you hate them/disagree with them.

See, you keep going back to MSNBC, Jon Stewart, Obama, Morning Joe, etc. That’s not going to convince people to give FNC another chance. Throughout this thread I’m not seeing a lot of people defending FNC’s content. What I am seeing a lot of is excuses and blaming “the other guys.”

By the way, I thought Bill O’Reilly and Sarah Palin were Fox employees. And if a guest is lying on a FNC show the job of the moderator is to correct the lie. So if you want to say that other networks don’t do a good job then go right ahead. That doesn’t excuse the poor performance of Fox News.

By the way…your repeated mention of MSNBC makes me think you believe I would support that network. Please don’t fall into that trap.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
The number of comments on this thread most assuredly establishes otherwise, doesn’t it?

Bill Huggins said:
That must be why there’s almost 600 comments on this story and under 30 re: Huntsman.

Very fitting that such an immature and obviously wrong thought would be invoked by you two schmucks. The amount of post on a particular thread has nothing in the world to do with if a person is popular or not, right or wrong. Try letting go of eachothers d!cks and get freaking real already.

AmericaSucks said:
I don’t think that FOX is the worst because I hate/disagree with them.

well, that’s fine, but i wasn’t addressing you in my comment.

AmericaSucks said:
by the thinly veiled master narrative they were weaving. It really was/is unlike anything I’d ever seen on a “news” channel.

no, it’s exactly like you see on every other channel – it just leans the other direction on FOX. you only notice it on FOX because you agree with the narrative spun by the liberal media.

and they actually offer the left and right perspective on topics, which, yes, is like nothing you’ve ever seen on any other news channel.

AmericaSucks said:
In all honesty, I came to my belief about FNC’s overall shoddiness

President Obama . Why are you on the Internet ?

Don’t you have a picnic, or a party or a golf game today ?

Since Mrs. O. is on vacation , now’s a good time to go get some junk food .

With Obama running the country, I think that saying America sucks is very racist.

AmericaSucks said:
“M-Fer, I Want More Iced Tea!”

You might want change your name there , Mr. President , some might take offense .

sarainitaly said:
well, that’s fine, but i wasn’t addressing you in my comment.

no, it’s exactly like you see on every other channel – it just leans the other direction on FOX. you only notice it on FOX because you agree with the narrative spun by the liberal media.

and they actually offer the left and right perspective on topics, which, yes, is like nothing you’ve ever seen on any other news channel.

No, you’re wrong–perhaps not about the general landscape of media consumers but certainly about me. I can read and view things critically. Lots of folks can’t. I can. Not bragging, just stating a fact. It’s probably all those years I spent in school learning to think in a dispassionately analytical way.

darladoon said:
i am black, so watch your mouth

^
this has to be color me badd

sarainitaly said:
well, that’s fine, but i wasn’t addressing you in my comment. no, it’s exactly like you see on every other channel – it just leans the other direction on FOX. you only notice it on FOX because you agree with the narrative spun by the liberal media. and they actually offer the left and right perspective on topics, which, yes, is like nothing you’ve ever seen on any other news channel.

Sara, dont bother, because AMERICA SUCKS will always think “YOUR” wrong. LMAO!!!

Big Eddie said:
President Obama . Why are you on the Internet ?

Don’t you have a picnic, or a party or a golf game today ?

Since Mrs. O. is on vacation , now’s a good time to go get some junk food .

Sadly, no. I don’t get much time off this year because Congress ruled that I had to forfeit some of my vacay time. It seems that that time is allotted to the POSITION rather than to the PERSON, and since my esteemed predecessor spent so much time at his ranch hiding it from the world, the next president–me–is now compelled to make up for it.

First he kills America’s budget surplus, then he kills the president’s vacation days surplus. Quite a guy.

Steve_27 said:
Sara, dont bother, because AMERICA SUCKS will always think “YOUR” wrong. LMAO!!!

Wow. If you have nothing to contribute, why not save us all the wear and tear on our eyes and just not post at all?

Odd that the president would use the name America Sucks. I thought he liked us.

writer said:
Odd that the president would use the name America Sucks. I thought he liked us.

I’m sure that the Secret Service wouldn’t let you anywhere near a communication device that would allow contact with the Commander-in-Chief.

(But between you and me, orchestrating that hit on Bin Laden gave me a huge erection.)

im_lovin_it said:
See, you keep going back to MSNBC, Jon Stewart, Obama, Morning Joe, etc. That’s not going to convince people to give FNC another chance.

because it’s ridiculous that the entire left wing media attacks FOX constantly, yet makes just as many if not more mistakes, and has more misinformed viewers than FOX. I don’t give a rats ass if you watch FOX or not. They have a strong viewership, and their viewers like them.

sarainitaly said:
At least 8 of those statements were made by guests on FOX during interviews.
One was from Sarah Palin’s Facebook page.
One was from a column O’Reilly wrote. I wouldn’t really call those FOX *lies*
Three of four were by FOX & friends – does anyone really take Doocey seriously?
And the majority of the rest were Beck. – Beck is leaving.

If FOX & friends are NOT the least misinformed viewers, what does that say about the information the other stations are putting out?

MSNBC – At least 38 fibs from hosts alone. Where are all the fact checked lies from their guests/interviews?
Schultz
Matthews
Scarborough
Lawrence O’Donnell
Maddow
Cenk Uygur – he wasn’t included but his recent coverage of Weinergate should get him fired, or laughed out of town
David Gregory
Olbermann

Thing is Sara Jon would be one of the first to agree that news networks, and even commentators ought to correct the facts, even of their guests. He’d also be be willing to look at data that demonstrated his opinion may be wrong. What’s seems bizarre to him is that people are so concerned about his opinion that they need to address it, but that’s fine to. If we expose our major news networks and their talking heads as promoting falsehoods I’d consider that progress. I wouldn’t really consider it much of a win for Fox, and especially the public, if what we discovered is that the other networks are also dishonest, but it sure might lead to a revaluation of what we should expect form our news sources. If that’s the case, I’ll be sure to thank my favorite political satirist for getting the ball rolling.

sarainitaly said:
sarainitaly said:
no, that’s not what i’m saying. i’m saying that FOX viewers are the most misinformed – as Stewart claimed.

crap – fox viewers are NOT the most misinformed, as stewart claimed. that’s what i get for eating cherries while trying to type.

Try a wine cooler next time.

You know, America Sucks, if you really think it sucks, plane tickets are available. Or do you only think it sucks because Obama was elected?

BTW, King. How ’bout them crime stats? Really backs up what you’re always saying, doesn’t it?

sarainitaly said:
because it’s ridiculous that the entire left wing media attacks FOX constantly, yet makes just as many if not more mistakes, and has more misinformed viewers than FOX. I don’t give a rats ass if you watch FOX or not. They have a strong viewership, and their viewers like them.

It would help if folks of your persuasion didn’t deal almost exclusively in “I know you are but what am I” arguments. Saying that other media organizations are corrupt doesn’t excuse FOX, and it’s a woefully inadequate method of argumentation.

I can recommend some reading on fallacy-free reasoning if you’re interested. It can really help tighten up your argumentation.

writer said:
You know, America Sucks, if you really think it sucks, plane tickets are available. Or do you only think it sucks because Obama was elected?

Here’s an analogy for you:

You buy a house. The former owners hand over the keys on closing day. You open the front door and see that the once-beautiful house has been gutted. Wouldn’t you think to yourself, “Damn! This house sucks!”

That’s about what happened when Bush left America in the mess he did.

And by the way: if you don’t like the way I exercise my free speech, then feel free to buy that plane ticket for yourself, preferably to a place that wouldn’t allow it.

writer said:
Odd that the president would use the name America Sucks

That was his CB handle 30 years ago . That’s how he and Moochy met . Her name was Chicago Sucks .
When she heard his , she realized he knew how to think big .

Big Eddie said:
That was his CB handle 30 years ago . That’s how he and Moochy met . Her name was Chicago Sucks .
When she heard his , she realized he knew how to think big .

Thinking big is what America is all about, baby. Or rather, it used to be. American exceptionalism? The only thing we’re exceptional at now is falling behind, trying desperately to maintain crumbling infrastructure, and tweeting photos of our packages.

gordonbloyershow said:
The truth is Stewart LIES.

The truth is Jon’s statements were about Fox as a network which includes all their shows. He has repeatedly addressed the way they successfully blur the lines between opinion and fact. He specifically addressed the difference using Fox’s own information about what is news and what isn’t. He gets it.

If you’re going to talk about his criticism of Fox, at least have a grasp on what it is.

sarainitaly said:
because it’s ridiculous that the entire left wing media attacks FOX constantly, yet makes just as many if not more mistakes, and has more misinformed viewers than FOX. I don’t give a rats ass if you watch FOX or not. They have a strong viewership, and their viewers like them.

Hey people can like whatever they want. My problem with FNC isn’t their programming. It’s the way people get so fired up and defensive whenever anybody tries to point out any faults. A news channel has made themselves the story. Other lazy news outlets report on them. How is that constructive given all of the problems in America right now?

CosmosDan said:
The truth is Jon’s statements were about Fox as a network which includes all their shows. He has repeatedly addressed the way they successfully blur the lines between opinion and fact. He specifically addressed the difference using Fox’s own information about what is news and what isn’t. He gets it.

If you’re going to talk about his criticism of Fox, at least have a grasp on what it is.

Look, if your head was as swollen as Gordo’s is, you’d have a hard time extending your arms far enough beyond it to grasp anything, too.

AmericaSucks said:
Look, if your head was as swollen as Gordo’s is, you’d have a hard time extending your arms far enough beyond it to grasp anything, too.

dude come clean. mediaite is paying you to troll threads and gin up the comment count, right?

sarainitaly said:
They have a strong viewership, and their viewers like them.

Then why do you keep going into these ridiculous conniption fits, why do you keep twisting the rules of logic to rush in and shrilly defend FOX “News”. Egads, take a break woman! You’re on the road to a complete mental breakdown.

jddoubleu said:
dude come clean. mediaite is paying you to troll threads and gin up the comment count, right?

Nope. Just following Beck’s advice:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51%2BDRqiLFPL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg

writer said:
Here’s one example of the difference between lies and mistakes. Bill Clinton and many leading Democrats said Iraq had WMDs. They were mistaken. Bush said Iraq had WMDs. He was lying.

That’s a little too simple, but I get the point. That is how bias works.

AmericaSucks said:
Look, if your head was as swollen as Gordo’s is, you’d have a hard time extending your arms far enough beyond it to grasp anything, too.

I may not be a fan of your name or avatar, but your comments do make me laugh.

CosmosDan said:
I may not be a fan of your name or avatar, but your comments do make me laugh.

Thank you.

America Sucks, I’m all for free speech. Just seems like if you’re living in a place you don’t like, and you don’t have to, then why stay?

writer said:
America Sucks, I’m all for free speech. Just seems like if you’re living in a place you don’t like, and you don’t have to, then why stay?

Because I have the freedom to live where I want, say what I want, and associate with whom I want. And I choose to associate with you, because it’s a delightful diversion from the rigors of everyday life.

Now a question for you: Why do you come to these message boards if you don’t like them?

NORBIT Jr. said:
It’s confusing to the rational mind when JonBoy has his “comedian”-protection cap on, and he’s actually advocating for something.

It wasn’t confusing to me at all. He devoted an entire show to having actual 1st responders on to talk about the bill being delayed. It was clear as day that it was a very different show. Jon loves NYC so he stepped outside the box for something that was important to him and was obviously pissing him off.

glenn113 said:
haha Stewart embarrasses Fox again..and with the with their own words to back it up. I love it…You plutos and baggers gotta remember, he who laughs last laughs hardest.

hahahaha. So spewing falsehoods while schizophrenically looking like you have to take a shit; embarrasses the other guy? What he did is fail in the interview, and continued to whine about it afterwards. He must work better days after the debate when no one is there to counter his claims. Looks like you are the irrational sheep in this one. Even claiming his inability to move on as ” laughing last“. lol Will he laugh last again when he wants to counter something else Wallace said? How about a year from now? As long as he doesn’t go back on the show and does it from the safty of his studio he wins right?

America Sucks, if I used the name ‘This message board sucks’, then you’d have more of an argument.

writer said:
With Obama running the country, I think that saying America sucks is very racist.

That guy’s avatar really bothers you, writer? The truth is, our’s is the greatest country on the planet with the best President democracy and our republic could produce. You just need faith.

AmericaSucks said:
Thank you.

and ftr; I think the knee jerk reaction to “don’t say anything bad about my country” is horse sh#t. We need to examine and recognize our flaws so we can move forward and improve. People who do nothing but bash and insult anyone who disagrees with them are far more unAmerican than your name and avatar IMO. They have failed to grasp the point and purpose of free speech.

writer said:
America Sucks, I’m all for free speech. Just seems like if you’re living in a place you don’t like, and you don’t have to, then why stay?

To work on improving it because you care? Just a thought I’m throwing out there.

CosmosDan said:
and ftr; I think the knee jerk reaction to “don’t say anything bad about my country” is horse sh#t. We need to examine and recognize our flaws so we can move forward and improve. People who do nothing but bash and insult anyone who disagrees with them are far more unAmerican than your name and avatar IMO. They have failed to grasp the point and purpose of free speech.

Yup.

valkyrie101 said:
That guy’s avatar really bothers you, writer? The truth is, our’s is the greatest country on the planet with the best President democracy and our republic could produce. You just need faith.

“Ours”; that particular possessive form doesn’t have an apostrophe. Kind of like “its.”

For example: “It’s your fault, not ours, that America can’t solve its problems.”

Cosmos, just seems like a smear on the entire country, regardless of who is in office. But hey, if you lefties are good with it, then so am I. Kumbahyah!

teccec said:
The vile crap that comes out of MSNBC is so disgusting that even they get suspended or otherwise lambasted by even the liberals who champion them.

They were the ones Jon said were trying to copy Fox’s business model. Funny Huh?

CosmosDan said:
They were the ones Jon said were trying to copy Fox’s business model. Funny Huh?

ssshhhhh!

51% of American like Jon Stewart and Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama. It’s proof that narcissistic comedians do quite well in fooling the non-taxpaying voters!

writer said:
Cosmos, just seems like a smear on the entire country, regardless of who is in office. But hey, if you lefties are good with it, then so am I. Kumbahyah!

I completely understand. It’s not something I would choose either but this board is filled with poster’s that are offensive. You certainly aren’t one and AS, is not high on the list. Personally I’m far more disturbed by those from either side that do nothing but spew hateful remarks and personal insults, but YMMV.

Dave Templeton said:
51% of American like Jon Stewart and Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama. It’s proof that narcissistic comedians do quite well in fooling the non-taxpaying voters!

You’re not one of those loons that Fogbow has been writing about, are you?

AmericaSucks said:
“Ours”; that particular possessive form doesn’t have an apostrophe. Kind of like “its.”
For example: “It’s your fault, not ours, that America can’t solve its problems.”

Well thanks for that, suks. My spelling is indeed woeful, but my intent is impeckable, I assure you.

seek said:
I think it’s kind of funny that Jon has managed to focus attention on Politifact and we’ve already proven that a # of their truth meter responses are in fact not true.

I think it’s funny that so many conservatives were doing the happy dance and posting and then reposting what politifcat said about Jon. Jon’s jab was, if you want to use this this source as a credible one, okay by me. I admit I was wrong. Now let’s see what else they had to say.

AmericaSucks said:
For example: “It’s your fault, not ours, that America can’t solve its problems.”

We were so kind to send millions of jobs to Canada via NAFTA so, you should be more grateful.

valkyrie101 said:
Well thanks for that, suks. My spelling is indeed woeful, but my intent is impeckable, I assure you.

I’m assuming you did that on purpose, in which case I applaud you. Bravo!

Liberal Salon.com Writer to Jon Stewart: Drop Your ‘Trite’ ‘Comedian First’ BS, You’re an ‘Activist’

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2011/06/22/liberal-saloncom-writer-jon-stewart-drop-your-trite-i-am-comedian-firs#ixzz1Q1nCgJ3l

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Liberal Salon.com Writer to Jon Stewart: Drop Your ‘Trite’ ‘Comedian First’ BS, You’re an ‘Activist’

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2011/06/22/liberal-saloncom-writer-jon-stewart-drop-your-trite-i-am-comedian-firs#ixzz1Q1nCgJ3l

Oooh, we can cite Salon as an approved source now? This is gonna get fun!

Any chance of getting Mother Jones on the list, too?

The Voice of Reason said:
hahahaha. So spewing falsehoods while schizophrenically looking like you have to take a shit; embarrasses the other guy? What he did is fail in the interview, and continued to whine about it afterwards. He must work better days after the debate when no one is there to counter his claims. Looks like you are the irrational sheep in this one. Even claiming his inability to move on as ” laughing last“. lol Will he laugh last again when he wants to counter something else Wallace said? How about a year from now? As long as he doesn’t go back on the show and does it from the safty of his studio he wins right?

hahahahaha……wow….
The “Voice of Reason” is at it again I see…..hehehe…..
As the reasonable person that you are…and so open minded,who would never sink to just plainly make stupid statements to make a partisan point (right?…right bro,right?)…I’m gonna give you that sheet here that Politifact thought it was worth publishing…after all it took but like 2 seconds for righties to paste the “false rating” of Politifact in here to make your point…and then paste it like again and again and again…
And again and again and again and again and again….
So as you all are clearly Politifacts fans,here’s something interesting Politifact wrote yesterday and that no one of you Politifacts fans pasted…weird huh….

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2011/jun/21/readers-sound-about-our-false-jon-stewart/

You’re welcome Politifact fans…pretty interesting stuff…like reasonable right?
Right?

AmericaSucks said:
Oooh, we can cite Salon as an approved source now? This is gonna get fun! Any chance of getting Mother Jones on the list, too?

I just think it’s funny that even the libs are admitting he’s a liar.

writer said:
Reasonable, just as Stewart will occasionally pick on a liberal, politifact will too. They have to keep up appearances. But politifact is run by the liberal St. Petersburg Times. If Fox News was such a ‘fact finding’ blog, how much would you be touting it?