LOL, the left are so annoyed today. Their tears taste like… victory!

But I thought Stewart was a pansy, liberal, Obama apologist?

Maybe he’s just an unapologetic liberal who can still call BS on liberals.

Name one Right Wing media figure who is unapologetically conservative yet still calls BS on conservatives?

I guess you didn’t listen to Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh or Mark Levin today.

Rush Limbaugh. Game, set, match. Damn you liberals are making it easy tonight.

No, Stewart is a douche.

He probably never read anything within the deal and is only trying to appeal to those who somehow think all things in politics are equal.

I am sure Obama should have stuck to his guns and said to hell with everyone as long as Jon Stewart is happy.

Presidenting is hard, Jon. But if you’re gonna sit in the big chair, you have to wear the big pants. And you have to own them.

Thank you, Obama voters. How’s that hopeychangey thing working out for ya?

I’m sure Jon is only going to be happy when Republican run everything in Washington. 

Then he won’t have to deal with Democrats going against their wishes.

Beck. All the frigging time.

Levin, too. He’ll go right off. Did a ton of it today. He’s not at all happy with Republicans.

Was Hannity kissing GOP ass today? I’m guessing not.  

Obama got conservatives to raise our debt by 9 trillion dollars over 10 years instead of 10 trillion.  Jon Stewart calls this “losing” the battle to republicans?  And he calls the Tea Party “anarchists” because they actually want to work towards balancing the budget instead of adding 9 trillion over 10 years?  It’s absurd to call voting against adding 9 TRILLION in debt as being crazy anarchists.  Our stop lights and roads, by the way, are paid for by local and state taxes.  As if reality matters at this point.  Our liberal media obviously lives in another world.

Shitty.

Nope I didn’t. We’re not sheeple.

If you consider O’Reilly right wing, then he called out the Right recently.

As Pablo said below, Levin does. As do local radio hosts.

Tons have said this is not a good deal. It just sucks more for the Ds.

Will he go to his party? Will Nader make it face visible?

Remember when it was not imaginable how a comedian would be able to make jokes about Obama?

Being dissappointed the budget wasn’t even cut to pre-Bush numbers isn’t exactly advocacy of anarchy. Also I love that tax hikes somehow morphed into the term “revenue increases.”

This bill is so convoluted and useless it sucks for everyone. Its a joke

This bill is so convoluted and useless it sucks for everyone. Its a joke

Sarah Palin too.

Sarah Palin too.

You’re right on point John. I’m a Communication Studies major at a liberal arts university and I just finished taking a summer session course where I was taught that reality is all in our head and that we change each other’s perception of reality by what we say. They praised the Sophists as if they were their disciples. I argued that this is wrong. The Earth is not real because my mind says it’s real. The Earth is real because it is solid ground that was here long before me and will be long after. But if liberals can convince a certain % of the population that reality is only in their head, then they can brainwash them into believing whatever reality they want them to believe. It’s really powerful, dangerous stuff if used in the wrong hands.

You’re right on point John. I’m a Communication Studies major at a liberal arts university and I just finished taking a summer session course where I was taught that reality is all in our head and that we change each other’s perception of reality by what we say. They praised the Sophists as if they were their disciples. I argued that this is wrong. The Earth is not real because my mind says it’s real. The Earth is real because it is solid ground that was here long before me and will be long after. But if liberals can convince a certain % of the population that reality is only in their head, then they can brainwash them into believing whatever reality they want them to believe. It’s really powerful, dangerous stuff if used in the wrong hands.

Nancy Pelosi was on the floor trying to tell us that Republicans got 98% of what they wanted. And that she was voting for it. Like she would ever do that.

And we get to keep borrowing 4 billion dollars a day. That doesn’t feel like winning.

Nancy Pelosi was on the floor trying to tell us that Republicans got 98% of what they wanted. And that she was voting for it. Like she would ever do that.

And we get to keep borrowing 4 billion dollars a day. That doesn’t feel like winning.

clearly you know nothing about federal assistance for cities, the fed gives billions to municipalities for infrastrucure projects like roads, stoplights, sewer projects and various other things that your city could not do without federal help, my city just built a huge pedestrian bridge over the river paid for with federal money and has a billion dollar sewer project that they are requesting massive federal assistance to pay for,federal block grants pay for stuff like your neighborhood watch programs….you sir are an idiot and could use a dose of reality yourself….you small government trailer park republicans continue to bite the hand that feeds your dumb asses

DIPSHIT

OH look, more clips of Jon Stewart preaching. Is this guy a comedian or a pundit? Literally screaming into the camera, essentially accusing tea partiers of being anarchists. I love how he can sit on his cloud of judgement and then fall back on his ‘i’m a comedian’ shtick when someone comes back at him. 

Hm. I’m a bit of a daily show fan, and I occasionally look it up on google news to see what people are writing about it. I’m noticing a bit of a disconnect here in how some people are
viewing each other. I’m concerned people believe they’re on here to
battle archetypes of “liberals” or “conservatives” and end up projecting their own definitions of what those mean onto others rather than comprehensively debating with individuals who just happen to have
different views on how to solve certain problems and happen to use certain labels to define themselves. They’re also being rather unnecessarily mean about it. The problem with all this is that people who don’t necessarily agree with the words and actions of others who also claim the same labels as them are being forced to answer for those words and actions. It seems to be making actual helpful debate impossible. I mean, if you’re forcing people to answer for the worst members of their party and ideology every time you have a conversation with them, rather than letting them make their own case for or against something, you’re not really debating with them so much as ranting a perceived amalgam of faceless people you can treat like an opposing team. I keep seeing it on posts like this around the internet. Am I the only one noticing this or is this a thing other people have been seeing and just haven’t been pointing out? Sorry for the intrusion. Thought it was an interesting episode tonight.

Stewart goes a bit too far in his critique, but the same can be said of the tea party’s politics . . .

Likewise a conservative does the same.  In fact, just by using a label.. like conservative, liberal, progressive, democrat, republican, etc to reference ideologies suggests one who agrees or disagrees enough to label themselves, limits that person’s perception of reality and ability to think for themselves. 

the left is pissed off today, but the right bitch and moan about everything all the time (even rush today lol)
look at the way they comment on the weekly ratings page today on this site…they’re complaining about fox not being mentionned in the title LOL

so since today is the left’s day to be annoyed…what’s up with the right winger on mediaite frances martel saying the president got slapped down…seems kind of disrespectful

I love Jon Stewart and thought this was segment was really good, but one of my biggest pet peeves is when liberals bring state and local government issues (traffic lights, police and fire departments, trash pick-up, non inter-state roads) into discussions about cutting the federal government.  There’s a big difference between the two.

The vast majority of our day to day government functions are paid for with local and state sales and property taxes.  To think that borrowing 9 trillion dollars instead of 10 trillion to run the federal government is going to starve the day to day operations of your city is absurd.  I am not going to call you an “idiot who needs a dose of reality”, a “trailer park” democrat, or a “dumb ass”.  I’ll just call you….. young and misguided.

Yes, don’t you like that small change of phrase-ology. revenue increase-that must have been from a consultation with Obama’s Wall Street friends.

Wasn’t that already covered by “shovel ready jobs” massive, still not accounted for stimulus bill.  All that proves is that certain states are as screwed up as Washington. BTW- I don’t live in anything close to resembling a trailer. Way to stereo-type.  Maybe we don’t WANT to be fed by the government and maybe we a tired of feeding the government. 

I’ve noticed this for quite some time now. In my own little vision of utopia, political parties would be outlawed. They encourage laziness. Politicians don’t even bother to come up with a stance on things anymore. Instead they ask their advisers what their stance should be, based off of the party line.

Quite well for Obama voters.  Much better than crazy crosshairs palin and old grouchie mcpain.

Wait, an ideologue is upset over this debt deal? Holy crap!

Ummmm. Jon. The Tea Party member ran on cutting spending. And not the .000001%  that is getting cut with this deal. But bug cuts. And to say such a small amount of spending cuts will result in not having traffic lights is ridiculous… and not funny.  Did it bother you Jon when the Dems broke every rule to pass Obamacare? Did that disturb you? All these guys/gals are doing is walking the walk and keeping their word. The Dems broke rules and well documented procedures to pass Obamacare… but somehiw the Tea PArty is being called terrorists…. oh I’m sorry Jon, you only called them kidnappers. Why did you call them kidnappers BTW Jon??? Because they voted “no”…. that’s it. “No”… thats all it takes to get called a terrorist…. a “no” vote. The same “no” vote that Obama gave BTW.

My father is dependent on SSDI, so yeh, not paying the federal bills would have a major impact on his life.  He’d be homeless and begging on the streets until he dies, and since my job was outsourced ton India and I don’t make enough to support myself fully, I’d be out on the streets too.  So indeed, I thank Obama, and the republicans who mustered this thing together.  Some people are not born with a platinum spoon in their mouths and even after getting degrees and working hard, the corporatists snatch the carpet from under us and force us to require assistance just to stay alive.

My father is dependent on SSDI, so yeh, not paying the federal bills would have a major impact on his life.  He’d be homeless and begging on the streets until he dies, and since my job was outsourced ton India and I don’t make enough to support myself fully, I’d be out on the streets too.  So indeed, I thank Obama, and the republicans who mustered this thing together.  Some people are not born with a platinum spoon in their mouths and even after getting degrees and working hard, the corporatists snatch the carpet from under us and force us to require assistance just to stay alive.

 Pretty good, actually; I like Justice Sonya Sotomayor calling out Scalia’s BS!

Balanced budgets are luxuries for good economic times; what we need is jobs, and that requires a real stimulus, a New New Deal ($2 Trillion oughta do it; not tax cuts this time, and a focus on infrastructure).

If we’d had a balanced budget amendment in 1941, we’d have lost WWII.
 

You are obviously so full of it, but, yeah….  the Tea Party’s Cut, Cap, and Balance would not have affected you one bit. So Obama and the compromising Republicans didn’t help you- they just mortgaged your kid’s future away.

 There are many states that have balanced budgets in these bad economic times and they seem to be doing o.k.  In fact, they are the ones doing better than the states in debt.  You and Paul Krugman might be the only people left on the planet they think we need MORE stimulus spending.

Politics have degenerated to pretty much the same level that you describe in your post..  But I can say that I have had quite a few respectful exchanges here but they never began with one trying to define the other.

Where does the money come from in the first place…. from the tax payers of those states up to the fed to get dwindled into almost nothing then back to the states.

It’s not funny cause it’s true. Pee Party Patriots pissing on America since 2009.

Gee Jon, lets not pretend to not be far left or anything…

one thing is certain. whether Obama wins a second term or a GOP candidate becomes the new US president, America is screwed. 

These sorts of segments are instructive just because they clearly put the lie to the notion that Jon Stewart is some sort of impartial, moderate, down-the-middle observer. In fact, he’s the sort of leftwing alarmist that believes that a bipartisan agreement to cut a tiny part of the budget over the next ten years amounts to getting rid of traffic lights and starting a period of lawless anarchism. If Stewart was a conservative, he’d spend a whole show making fun of statements like that. I look forward to watching him meltdown on a nightly basis as his liberal dreams go swirling down the drain.

The big difference I saw in that clip is that Stewart accuses the Tea Party of being in favor of “no government” while liberals are in favor of “better government.” The Tea Party is in favor of better government, which in our mind is smaller government. The debate for 2012 will be Bigger Government vs. Smaller Government, and Stewart is already preaching to his minions that Smaller Government = No Government. Which is false and I would say reckless but I really don’t think he understands where the Tea Party is coming from being an Elite, liberal (Jew) surrounded by like minds all day every day.

And you know this because you not only work at the US Treasury but you run it.

Since the Stimulus is unaccounted for why don’t you call up Daryl Issa and have him start up an investigation?

Wait a minute, John … are you watching C-Span this evening?  When everyone went out for the dinner break, Barney Franks spoke briefly about pardoning someone; then Price, Duncun, and Trent Franks (without missing a beat) layed into the next argument, filibustering for the Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution, which they want passed into law within the next three months.  

Trent Franks said we owe $14 trillion; and that if we paid the principal only, at the rate of $1 million per year, it would take 10,000 years to pay it.  We know the interest will end up being more than the principal, so it would probably take more than twice that long (25,000 years perhaps) to pay it all off.  What this means is that we’re already a slave nation … but a slave nation that can change its’ laws, and vote leaders in and out.  

And it means that none of us can wait this out, hoping for better times.  So WE MUST HAVE greater taxes on the wealthiest of our people — or oust them from the country, without right of return.  If the wealthiest of citizens and corporations (who’ve been so richly rewarded by being here) will not SACRIFICE WITH US, then let them have NO PART OF US AT ALL.  These selfish, stubborn folks won’t sacrifice for the country (but they work day and night, spending vast sums of money, to defend their right to be tax scofflaws and loopholers)!  In times of war and the greatest financial crisis, this too is treason.  Deport them, without right of return, I say.  What say you?

In the 50′s and 60′s (Dwight Eisenhower’s tenure), general taxes weren’t too bad; but taxes on some of the wealthiest of people were as high as 91% (and Eisenhower was satisfied with that).  We could certainly increase taxes on the wealthiest people and corporations, upwards in the range of 40% to 60% (depending on how astronomically wealthy they are), still leaving them with exceedingly great wealth to live comfortably upon and do business with.  In Australia, everyone pays 60% federal taxes, and they live very well, even considering that much of the interior terrain is inhospitable desert.  They don’t have a fiscal crisis either, even though they’ve been in some of the same wars we were.  They wouldn’t tolerate the kind of greedy behavior we’ve been putting up with. 

The root cause of the problem is that we’re not getting enough revenues and taxes to run the country.  The rich people and corporations are tax scofflaws and loopholers, and won’t contribute to the federal coffers, according to their ability to pay, commensurate with their great wealth.  They’re con artists, flimflammers, repeating the Big Lie, generation after generation — in order to wear us down and make us forget the truth, and believe their lies.  We don’t believe them, and we have an antidote.

WE CAN REJECT THE BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION.  Before we even consider putting this bill up for a vote, we must have provisos piggybacked into the bill, stating that this must be predicated upon very LARGE TAX HIKES for the wealthiest corporations and citizens being passed into law and made irrevocable (so that we have the income we need to balance the budget); and that as the nation recovers more from this Depression, we should raise taxes more modestly on the middle class.  ONLY IF THESE TAXES ARE PASSED INTO LAW, CAN WE AMEND THE CONSTITUTION FOR A BALANCED BUDGET; and it should be in the same bill, with the proviso that those wealthy people and corporations that delay, frustrate, and refuse to cooperate with paying their increased taxes (preferring instead to litigate and appeal), be ousted and deported from the country without right of return.

We could also add these provisos:  ”The automatic cuts resulting from the failure of the Commission or its recommendations MUST be matched dollar-for-dollar by cuts in tax loopholes, starting with all Capital Gains, both long term and short term, being treated as Ordinary Income.  Corporate Tax due must be paid on the profits as reported in the corporation’s Annual Report.” 

Let them fear being kicked out and never seeing their land again.  That will put their constant arguments for narcissistic greed and selfishness (their fascist brand of capitalism) into perspective.  I believe that James Hayes of ICE has been given new additional mandates of protecting the Treasury through the Patriot Act; and he seems like the kind of tough individual that becomes quite relentless in doing his job.  Charge him with deporting them, and let these greedy rich folks fear him.

Our legislators can put this into law.  The TPT’s want the balanced budget amendment to the constitution so badly that they may just ram this through the Republican party’s unwillingness to act.  Let’s be smart and use them to do what they do.  But don’t give them the amendment, unless its got the tax hikes on the wealthiest, w/deportation proviso (we’re at war, and we can’t brook treason from the greedy anymore).

When the country loses, tea-baggers are happiest.

so without jobs, how does one stimulate the economy without……..spending?

yeah, because it’s oh so difficult to understand that “revenue” =  ”tax increases”

WGAF what stewart thinks, he can always pay more taxes if he wants to, then complain.

there’s not that big of a difference between the two, first of all.  state governments 
can qualify for federal funding for all manner of infrastructure projects.  second of all, the tea party has a blanket ideological opinion on government IN GENERAL,hence stewart’s joke.

evidence that they’re only going to cut .000001%?

links please.  

As much as I enjoyed reading your manifesto about using ICE and the Patriot Act to deport the wealthy in America I have to say….. No thanks.

and yet’s they’re still not happy

he said “conservatives” and not “republicans”

kind of a big difference

so, you can withdraw your ‘game, set, match’ 

again, he said “conservatives” and not the GOP

Is it political analysis?  Why, then, is it on Comedy Central?

Is it comedy?  Why, then, am I not laughing?

Is Stewart a man?  Why, then, is he only 4′ 9″.

-More questions without answers-

Once it becomes law, YES.  We must have massive new revenue from the wealthy.

yup, about as dim as 98% of communications studies majors

well, we’re borrowing money because of the ONE THING that conservatives have
been demanding for over a decade:  tax cuts

that’s the primary reason for our structural debt

but he was right, and you’re not quite as right.  

 The government does not control how many jobs the economy creates.  It just needs to get out of the way of the private sector.  It pains me to hear even some Republicans who seem to think it is THEIR job to create jobs.  It isn’t.  To be honest it’s not really Obama or Bush’s fault that the economy has weakened.  It’s just what economies do.  They go up and they go down.  Always have and always will.  It’s just frustrating to watch politicians who think they can spend, regulate, or somehow control the economy to growth.

let me ask the question again, because you obviously weren’t listening:

if there are no jobs, then how does one stimulate the economy?

and btw, i assume you oppose tax increases?  

I think a world economy is far too vast and complex that a single person or government can figure out how to stimulate it.  If you can figure it out let us know.

So you want a nation of poor people who can’t pay for anything? Since the Democrats have the highest percentage of millionaires who are in the Congress can we start with them? By ‘deporting them” you will do them a huge favor – tax-wise. You maybe surprised to learn many of them only reside in this country part-time. Your hatred of the wealthy is delusional..”let them fear being kicked out and never seeing their land again” Good luck with redefining America. 

spending is how you stimulate the economy

 You would be surprised. 

I am still waiting for Obama to define “shovel ready” and it was Biden who said he has no idea where some of the funding went- since it was his job to oversee the distribution and allocation of funds why would I need to call Daryl Issa? to prove Biden’s incompetence? He admitted it himself.

O.K.  I’ll copy and paste your solution in an email to the White House.

 Can we deport Jon Stewart if he refuses to pay a 91% tax rate?

Both funny and depressing at the same time.

But you all share the same cold heart. :)

Didn’t watch the clip did cha?

it “failed” because it wasn’t a large enough stimulus AND contained 40% in tax
cuts (which is your definition of “leave the private sector alone”), and which 
HAS NEVER worked.  

nothing is worst than “rich” being morphed into “job creators”

John, I think that as the idea spreads, and people stop pretending that we’re NOT at war, that others will see the usefulness of a stern, no-nonsense approach.  I’d rather see the rich leave, than stay here and refuse to help us when we’re in crisis.  Playing the fool and accepting that kind of treatment is what caused us to go broke.  

Even though Bill, Hilary and Al created a great surplus, fixing massive deficits left by Republicans — once the right got back into power, they ruined us again to a far greater extent; they love wars and war profits, while driving us into an economic black hole.  They’ll only stop when we force them to stop.  As long as we can stand this right-wing pig slop, and tolerate their greed, they’ll keep dishing it out to us.

I couldn’t find charts I’d bookmarked earlier today (showing what was spent in each administration by a bar graph — btw, Obama spent the LEAST BY FAR); but at this link you’ll find a cached article on Obama, which I feel is rather accurate.  Don’t feel bad about being fooled (he’s charismatic … the man you can’t help but love … and he reveals himself over time).  Though I defend him, I knew his ability as a mediator and finesser  would get him into trouble.  You lean towards agreement enough, and soon you’re apt to fall.  He’s too cooperative (for now)  –  in the future, he becomes someone else, and very tough.  But everything changes then.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.thenation.com/article/162337/obamas-bad-bargain

You know the expression, “honor among thieves”?  It’s enforced by murder … you cheat, you die.  That keeps them on their toes.  We’re dealing with thieves — so demanding they pay their fair share (under penalty) in time of war, is still treating them rather more gently than they deserve.  I’m not talking about deporting an old lady with dementia, who has no idea about finances any more … but about those those who won’t contribute according to their means, when they’re gifted with resources far beyond that of other men.

Anyway, you’re probably rich and suddenly empathize with the loopholers.  I can understand.

“Our stop lights and roads, by the way, are paid for by local and state taxes.”

And when the federal government doesn’t have the money to give the states any longer?  Then what.  The states that give more money to the federal government than they receive in return (blue states) will fair a heck of a lot better than states that rely on federal dollars (mostly red states).

“As if reality matters at this point.”

Not much if you don’t follow through to its logical conclusion.

Frankly I’d be quite happy with two separate countries.  A northern and southern one.

No one will try to convince you that reality is in your head.

Jon Stewart said, “I’m just a comedian. I am not a political activist.” Well, Jon, one thing is for sure and that is your either delusional or you’re a GD liar.

Have you ever seen denial this thick?

What the hell states are you talking about?

Give us an example of when a country (not the global economy) created jobs by cutting government spending while trying to recover from a recession.  The problem is that corporations or “job creators” have less and less incentive to create jobs in the US.  While everyone is jobless, education is getting cut and private education is too expensive, jobs continue to move overseas naturally due global economy.  Screw the global economy, how does the US economy recover if there is no stimulation focused on getting jobs for Americans?

While you’re thinking of that, look up how many times in history a country has used fiscal policy to stimulate an economy (or even rescue it).

“How’s that hopeychangey thing working out for ya?” – Ugh, I wanna throw up.

Guess how a number of Republican Governors balanced those budgets.  Federal stimulus money.

Eisenhower was satisfied with that.  We’d do well to take Australia’s approach (toward the wealthy), and go easy on those in poverty, and just working their way up into the middle class (when there’s jobs for them, that is).  

We always do things differently, but all the nations would say we’ve played the whore to wealthy corporations and persons, and they’ve used us and given us nothing.  If we were well paid, why are we so broke? 

Why are we in deficit that it will take us 25,000 years to pay off the principal and interest?  Do you think our creditors will wait?  No, they won’t … and for this reason, nuclear war comes.  We either take the money we need by law, or we’ll take on nuclear attack from many unified nations, and that not too far off.

lol…John Boehner is the skunk and the Tea Party is the jar.

The issue is not whether or not the “conservatives/republicans” got everything they wanted. The issue is that the “liberals/democrats” got NOTHING the wanted. Obama is too much of a pragmatist. He beleives that he can actually work with an opposing party to get a deal done. Rather, Republicans get what they want, democrats don’t get what they want and any failure is linked with Obama. The Republicans, conservatives and tea party folks don’t want a better country. They just want to see Obama fail. Whatever it takes. Listen to the conservative messiah, Mr. Rush Limbaugh. He said it himself, he wants to see Obama fail. The only credit that Obama receives from conservatives is the fact that he got Bin Laden. Well, wait…no he doesn’t deserve any credit for that either. It was the Bush policies that allowed Obama to pull the trigger. I got to admit though, at least conservatives give Obama all the credit for the failure for the economy. Even though it was the Bush policies that allowed for such a scenario.  

Stephen Colbert said the Tea Party should have held out until they made Obama eat a bug.

This makes sense considering what Bill Kristol said about the T.P….

“An infantile form of conservatism”

That’s true for states that receive less federal dollars then they send but not for states that send less than they receive. 

The tea party and its tactics have no analogous opposition from the left. The
Republicans have their extremist faction  in the tea party (yes,
suggesting a constitutional amendment during crisis resolution, and also saying that federal government should balance its books like a family is extremely idealogical ranting) that gives them a lot of leverage, but the dems have nobody (Jon Stewart does not count; he runs a comedy show).  This is a problem because as you say, the public “perceives” things to
be balanced when all the aggressive ranting from the tea party that represents less than 15-20 percent of the population really puts everything out of balance. 

Please look up why it is o.k. for the federal government to have debt.  Read about the New Deal.  Fiscal policy, and government spending is why the US has always seemed years ahead in development when compared to most countries.

Where did you get .000001%???  You pulling a Jon Kyl?
 
Ok, maybe you can talk about the rules that got broken in passing Obamacare.  What were they?

I’m sure you’ll just prove yourself to be parrot like most people on these things…

there’s one tiny difference you seem incapable of grasping:

those rich democrats you speak of?  they want tax increases on THEMSELVES

they also want to protect programs for the poor.

“it “failed” because it wasn’t a large enough stimulus”

Do we really want to throw away more money on “cash for clunkers”, bank bailouts, and tunnels for turtles?

“tax cuts (which is your definition of “leave the private sector alone”), and which HAS NEVER worked.”

Yeah, CAPITALISM has never worked????

“it “failed” because it wasn’t a large enough stimulus”

Do we really want to throw away more money on “cash for clunkers”, bank bailouts, and tunnels for turtles?

“tax cuts (which is your definition of “leave the private sector alone”), and which HAS NEVER worked.”

Yeah, CAPITALISM has never worked????

“it “failed” because it wasn’t a large enough stimulus”

Do we really want to throw away more money on “cash for clunkers”, bank bailouts, and tunnels for turtles?

“tax cuts (which is your definition of “leave the private sector alone”), and which HAS NEVER worked.”

Yeah, CAPITALISM has never worked????

“we don’t have a revenue problem”

my all-time favorite republican quote

“we don’t have a revenue problem”

my all-time favorite republican quote

Forget it.  You don’t read, you just rant.

Forget it.  You don’t read, you just rant.

Forget it.  You don’t read, you just rant.

How about the one that is creating the most jobs. The same one that Paul Krugman loves to write about a theoretical 27 billion dollar deficit that doesn’t exist.

How about the one that is creating the most jobs. The same one that Paul Krugman loves to write about a theoretical 27 billion dollar deficit that doesn’t exist.

Nope.  A balanced budget that is mandated by their state constitution…. and a low tax/regulation that creates these things called “jobs”.

People who put testicles in each other’s mouths are happiest? 

Well, if you say so. I’ll defer to your apparent expertise.

Interesting to note that the blue states also tended to vote for Obama, essentially voting against their best interest. Why vote for someone who champions large federal spending when it is your state that is getting screwed? 

Forget North/South, to get what you are looking for you would have to carve out the mid-west and smash the 2 coasts together.

Our schools are funded by local property taxes.  Our city roads and highways are funded by local taxes and gas taxes.  Our police and fire fighters are funded by local sales and county taxes.  The federal government funds massive bureaucracies in DC like the Department of Education and the FCC.  Our stop lights and roads will be fine without the federal government.

Texas, the reddest state of them all, is a donor state by the way.

Your golden boy Jon Stewart jumped the shark tonight.

He proved once and for all he’s no moderate. 

He’s to the left of Obama, Reid and even Pelosi on this one.

Money has no party.  The Democrats who have wealth should pay, just as the Republicans who have wealth.  Poor people pay their taxes, and generally pay their bills on time, when they’ve got income.  They aren’t given credit, and pay their way with cash, when they’re working.  Campbell’s mansion was bought on 50 cent cans of soup, and you couldn’t afford to buy it today, even if you were of “ordinary wealth.”  You’d have to have oil money to buy it.  The people’s money adds up to be a great sum; but each one of us struggles to honor our obligations, no matter how difficult it gets … unlike the wealthy.

I told a friend of mine about ten years ago there’d be a rush to live in Europe and other currency-exchange favorable countries.  Already, the internet is far better in Europe, and soon it will be a hundred times better.  Our fiscal policies of letting the wealthy slide by and take a pass on their obligations has crippled our ability to update and modernize our infrastructure, as well as pay our bills and survive day to day — and still the debate is over Jude Wanniske’s BIG LIES of supply-side economics (which Bush Sr. called VOODOO ECONOMICS)?

It’s been exposed and debunked, Greenspan shamed, and you’re living in the breakdown of the bubble economics it produces — because history proves time and time again that the rich don’t create more jobs and manufacturing (that era being over); they invest in the stock market, and make the money work for them. 

But republicans dangle the false hopes of more jobs and less or no taxes, because it’s the people’s drug.  Like meth addicts, they cling to these delusions while the country is driven into despair, poverty and slavery.  

But what do they care?  As long as there is government, there’ll be politicians to do the bidding of the wealthy and lie to the people.  But more of us are just not buying it, and we’ll get very organized, very soon.

Don’t forget this gem of a quote:

” ‘shovel ready’ was not as shovel ready as we expected.” (Laughter)-President Obama June 13th 2011.

We’re down, but we’re not out (yet).  The young people will learn to create their work, just as the pioneers did.

JSisnotHilarious-  I don’t respond to gibberish.

Yeah- what’s up with this weird connection between “jobs” and “money”?

We could start with Perry of Texas.

Texas Used Stimulus Funds To Balance Its
Budget

http://mediamatters.org/research/201106100024

Texas’s love/hate relationship with Washington’s money

http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/23/news/economy/texas_perry_budget_stimulus/index.htm

Facing Budget Deficits, States Eye Stimulus Funds

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/business/jan-june09/statebudgets_02-17.html

Take the Money and Run

http://www.slate.com/id/2211677/

States struggle to pass budgets without stimulus

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/business/articles/2010/06/28/20100628biz-statecrisis0629.html

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…said the over-educated academic snob…

Have you ever taken anything beyond a bonehead Econ course?  Don’t answer that, because as a liberal you won’t be able to keep from lying about it.  

You just answered my previous question about the Econ course. In fact, every comment you post on the topic continues to reveal your ignorance more. Stick with Humanities, maybe.

One of the things that drives me nuts is right wing web sites that lie in their headline and story but provide links to original sources.  When you go to the sourced articles you discover the articles say nothing of the kind.  These sites know they’re readers will never fact check them with their source … so the lies get believed and then quoted as fact.  They think so little of their readers, it’s insulting.

Since you wont say, I’ll have to guess you’re talking about Texas. I’m not sure what you mean by “seem to be doing OK”, but  Texas’ poverty rate is well above the national average and among the worst states in the union.

And although 10% deficit is pretty good for these times, that is not a balanced budget.

oh shut the fuck up.

Yet Perry likes to balance his budgets using stimulus money.

“Interesting to note that the blue states also tended to vote for Obama,
essentially voting against their best interest. Why vote for someone who
champions large federal spending when it is your state that is getting
screwed?”

The difference is we blue states don’t mind subsidizing the elderly, the poor, the disabled.  We just don’t like subsidizing the super wealthy and corporations.  The red states seem to prefer the latter.  Others might say it just comes down to whether you have a conscious or not.  

LOL!  Listen to what Eisenhower said of the right-wingers and Hunt, who was having them do his bidding (this is in the 50′s):

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread733110/pg1“Should any political party attempt to abolish Social Security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history.  There is a tiny splinter group of course, who believes you can do these things.  Among them are H.L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires and an occasional polititian, or businessman from other areas.  There number is negligible and they are stupid.”  ~ Dwight D. Eisenhower   (read more for tidbits on Hunt) http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/01/26-0Hoover enthusiastically followed the advice of his Treasury Secretary, multimillionaire Andrew Mellon, who said in 1931: “Liquidate labor, liquidate stocks, liquidate the farmers, liquidate real estate. Purge the rottenness out of the system. High costs of living and high living will come down … enterprising people will pick up the wrecks from less competent people.”  Thus, the Republican mantra was: “Lower taxes, reduce the size of government, and balance the budget.”  (This is Tom Hartman’s Two Santas article, and it’s great!) 

Yep.  We wouldn’t want to get too much education.

No, he isn’t far to the left.  He would have to actually pay attention to policy and care.  He doesn’t.

He is only trying to appear above it all. F him.

He’s always said he was a liberal.

Let’s talk about censorship at C eNN eNN… First,John, good point. Thanks. Next, *everyone* I don’t know if you watch CNN and/or saw this, but this is disturbing and funny at the same time. It’s Don Lemon interviewing Rand Paul. Follows are *my* words of encouragement for the media headjob at CNN, as well as their censorship board. In that order. Seems the *only* posts allowed on that website are posts that support their agenda…

Even so, Kentuckians and Americans we all should feel free to share the link, and urge everyone to let C eN enN what you think of the content and interview in part or in whole. (copy , paste, remove the spaces…)

w w w .y o u tube.com/watch?v=hy4hKG1A0T8
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(To C enn Enn..)

Simply amazing, Don. You take a situation where complicated answers are both desired by ready viewers and required to provide educational value for the less informed, but instead try to limit one of the few trustworthy Senators to a simple dialog. Sen. Paul was willing to take his time and talk to the American people through CNN and in return you attempted to limit him to simpleton questions for simpleton minds (of which there are already too many). What a wasted opportunity to educate the American public. You should really question the value of your method afa this certain interview. And to your “feelings”, I will never “feel” so disgusted. To have seen such a rude treatment of someone who has no history of offenses makes me ashamed you are part of American media. Save your venom for someone like Blag* or Mozil* — those who obviously are criminals. Unlike your “people” you allegedly speak for (those who begged you to rudely dismiss complicated answers to your simple questions), I want to hear whether DC has moved to get finances under control or not, and if NOT, why. I like to pay my bills. I don’t care about your baiting questions about “feel” –feelings, you point.

Don, there’s no doubt in my mind there is an entire current of MSM folks who are either part of the problem, or are clueless. Clueless people don’t get jobs like yours. Your example of MSM this weekend was a great show of our problem. Act like an American next time, would you? Be thoughtful, considerate, ask useful questions and listen — before you make another mistake and waste more of our time and national capital. Thanks in advance. 
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once I realized that I could copy/post droooling fool content (confirmed – C eNN Enn censors….), but my thoughtful post above was not going to be posted *ever*, I tried to post this:

Hey, (C enN enN….. My post from earlier today criticizing Don for his inaction and actions was spot-on as well as clean. Too bad you found it unsupportive of your un-American agenda and did not publish it. Your truthlessness and un-American actions have been noted and will be publicized.
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Nuff said. It is no surprise that our American brothers are confused. C eNN eNN is treating them like mushrooms. You know that saying.

Keep up the good work, everyone. We need it.

Americus

Well, the size of the lunatic fringe has grown (they always surround the greedy), but Dwight Eisenhower’s assessment of them still holds:   “… and they are stupid.”

No, I didn’t watch the clip of Jon Stewart trying to shi t on the President because he didn’t like the way the way the bill was constructed.

surfergrl, California is trying to get a little turn of phrase passed into law, that would give them the right to tax internet sales out of state (to incentivize residents to purchase locally, they claim) — but the real reason is that they’re going after the taxes they DIDN’T collect on the sales, because they need it.

They’re having difficulties getting this done, and complain because this robs them of REVENUES.

Why would you call Issa? I guess you know you’re blowing hot air so why bother right?

And I’m guessing you are a conservative who sees that as a weakness.

Thought so.

John, thanks for your hard work. I meant to reply to one of your previous posts when I posted my ‘book’ about C eNN Enn and their censorship/misguiding of the population, but mussed up. I think I created a new post  . Anyway, thank you again. People are already starting to listen – the country isn’t yet completely down the tubes. Not yet, anyway. Keep up the good work.

Americus

Don’t watch him.  Don’t like him.  Yet here you are yappin away.

We owe over 14 trillion in actual debt.  This isn’t under discussion.  We’ve already spent it, and must pay now.  The Debt Ceiling Limit is about taking money from the budget to pay our debts over time (we have payments), not about borrowing more money.  We don’t want to borrow more money.  We have borrowed money in the past; payments are due; and the budget allocations had to be changed, to allow the payments to be made.  This is keeping our word, and is what good faith is all about.  

However, you don’t kill granny and the baby, to take her SS check and the diaper money, to make a payment on the car.  You find a better way to take care of things, putting the car payment secondary to the well-being and needs of granny and the baby. Sometimes it means you bear the sacrifice.If you look at history, you see that nations that participated in long, ongoing wars suffered huge money problems, lost wars, fell from power, broke apart as a nation, and much more.  There’s no mystery here.  The penalty of being a warrior state is that you eventually cease being a state and a power.If we want a good life, we must live in peace and mind our own business.  This is common sense.  War is cursed.  All who live by the sword will die by the sword.  This isn’t only for people; it’s for nations.However, the right-wing war machine doesn’t want that, because they don’t make the kind of money in peacetime that they can make in war.  So they constantly instigate wars, covert operations, intrigues in other nations, and cause divisions at home.  It’s not just the arms dealers, machine makers, and oil people …  the bankers and politicians are deep into it too.  They cash in on war, and they always need good front men to hype their action.  I know it can be very difficult.  The lights are half out on an adjacent street (to cut costs); and personally, I’ve gone through some very painful times.  But extreme sacrifice causes you to become very frugal, and when you come out of it, you do much more with much less.  It isn’t easy, and can be lonely.  You feel like life’s going on for others, but you’ve been sidelined.  Eventually the tough times pass, if only because you’ve become tougher.  Changing the mindset is the hardest part, after pain; but all things are possible to those who believe.  And you get to help others steady themselves and brace for the rebound, which is extraordinarily difficult, as you know and can see.After all, if there were no impossibilities, how could miracles be identified?  We’ll get through this, though we think we can’t, with shared sacrifice.  This will cause honor and knit us together again.

You’re right, I didn’t watch the clip. 
Jon couldn’t have been unjustly critical of the President because he was making a larger point of how idiotic the Tea Party people are.

lol you’re too stupid to realize you just admitted that you guys “put testicles in each other’s mouths”…. luckily for you, liberals are cool with whatever floats your boat. I’d refrain from telling your republican buddies though. 

lol you’re too stupid to realize you just admitted that you guys “put testicles in each other’s mouths”…. luckily for you, liberals are cool with whatever floats your boat. I’d refrain from telling your republican buddies though. 

Cameo, good morning. Re:  your “Even though Bill, Hilary and Al created a great surplus”, I have to add a correction for the misled…. Microsoft, Intel, and *then* the Y2K bubble following ” created a great surplus” .

Until you guys stop crediting politicians for doing what business did (create the business activity) we are never going to realize the truth — this country is hosed until we can *once*again* get back the business the R’s and D’s  have already shipped overseas — that which we voted for by electing the R’s and D’s.

Like it or not, the TEA (stands for Taxed Enough Already, not anything else, miscreants) is on the right track. What needs to happen is going to hurt most of us, but the sooner we stop fighting it the sooner we can make progress. Sorry kitty for using  your letters. Different context.

So don’t credit Clinton for doing anything more than staying out of the light and, um, in a nice dark place often enough. It was business (real and fakebubbled Y2K) that gave the activity, which gave the revenue, which covered up the fact that we were already heading into a depression. Next came 9/10+1, which further energized business — but fakely. And here we stand.

So, what are we going to do to fix our problems?

Americus

Cameo, good morning. Re:  your “Even though Bill, Hilary and Al created a great surplus”, I have to add a correction for the misled…. Microsoft, Intel, and *then* the Y2K bubble following ” created a great surplus” .

Until you guys stop crediting politicians for doing what business did (create the business activity) we are never going to realize the truth — this country is hosed until we can *once*again* get back the business the R’s and D’s  have already shipped overseas — that which we voted for by electing the R’s and D’s.

Like it or not, the TEA (stands for Taxed Enough Already, not anything else, miscreants) is on the right track. What needs to happen is going to hurt most of us, but the sooner we stop fighting it the sooner we can make progress. Sorry kitty for using  your letters. Different context.

So don’t credit Clinton for doing anything more than staying out of the light and, um, in a nice dark place often enough. It was business (real and fakebubbled Y2K) that gave the activity, which gave the revenue, which covered up the fact that we were already heading into a depression. Next came 9/10+1, which further energized business — but fakely. And here we stand.

So, what are we going to do to fix our problems?

Americus

Yes. Nice to be here. Where I can see my shared efforts (instead of being censored).

See my post to cameo above, please. Your comments are hopefully awaited. Thanks.

Americus

Yes. Nice to be here. Where I can see my shared efforts (instead of being censored).

See my post to cameo above, please. Your comments are hopefully awaited. Thanks.

Americus

Hi Kitty:  sometimes I’ve wished NYC would succeed from the state, because we’re always on the paying end, and then they claim poverty when it’s our turn to receive.  But I didn’t really MEAN it.
But check this out:  http://educate-yourself.org/cn/regionalismupdatedec2000.shtml

Part of what Bush and some Republicans have been doing is blocking this (global rezoning on the state level, to eradicate borders).  You can’t really globally govern unless these divisions are strengthened in place.  They want to hold that back, see?  But there are other reasons that they don’t talk about (to us).
http://www.etcgroup.org/   
http://www.ratical.org/jumpdoors.html#BioKoya   http://www.psrast.org/fao96.htm   With the EPA done away with (which is the Republican plan)  agritech businesses (such as Monsanto, among MANY others) can come in with their thousands of new genetically mutated plant genomes — the new patented seeds — driving out all competition and all organic growers; and causing all people on earth to consume their toxic plants, which are full of buckeyballs (nano amyloids, and nano prions, on the sub-cellular level … they’re so small they can pass the blood brain barrier.)  Mothers will transmit this to their babies in breast milk, and it can saturate the lungs and heart quite easily and fairly quickly, as well as the other organs.  They’ll end up causing pain, disease and death in ALL living things.

But agritech wants the land to farm this stuff (because its big money); so they’ve devised the means, via the banks, to drive us off the land.  And now, through this budget deficit and its array of issues, allowing the Republicans many ways to attack and knock off the EPA, they’ll remove the governing bodies that would stop them from growing this poison and feeding it to us (we’ll get the surplus that business doesn’t use) — thus opening the way for them to begin this “biorevolution” which will cause ALL living things to sicken and die, on earth, in the sea, and in the air.

The bees and other pollinators are dying from this plant stuff (its in the plants and in the pollen); even the grub worms won’t eat their honey — they know its bad for them.  But we eat it.  And when we get leukemia, or lymphoma, or MS, and are in agony, trying to figure out how this happened, the last thing we think of is that its the honey, or the lettuce and tomatoes, or the water.  And we keep eating it, and getting sicker.  But investigate the links, read the pdfs (d/l them, so you can take your time), read the doctors reports and the commission reports, and the global investigations.  Connect the dots & see.

Absolutely, America(top 2%) vs Americans, common sense has to become the new status quo. Americans can hit them where it hurts? TURN OFF YOUR CABLE TV. Find your own news resources and entertainment on the internet, and stop being fed propaganda and brainless game/reality shows.

LOL, if China decides to invade, they won’t be buying our bonds to enable a defense.  They don’t want our bonds now, as it is.  They’re stuck with them.

AGAIN, excellent comment. I guess the paid blogers have gone to bed and the only people truely worried can’t get any sleep.

True, Kitty.  I’ve been reading complaints from them about the money running out, and parks and other municipal facilities closing down indefinitely.  We have a version of that in NYC (the MTA); but we’ve been dealing with their foot dragging and thievery for so many years, we’re almost used to it.  They actually make the government look good.  They make a banana republic’s government look good.

Again, thank you, excellent comment.

Minnesota … Michigan … parts of Long Island … oh, and Jersey for their semi-functional NJ Transit — but the NJT is always like that.  It’s like the MTA.  If we weren’t so reliant on it, we’d bomb it.

Really, this is what you think is important ? GROW UP.

Cameo, I agree. I think most TEA members would agree — we need to take some of the money away from the people who have the biggest inflows (in the case where those inflows are unfair. Listen to what Buffett has to say on that subj. He agrees.)

The biggest hurdle we have with all of that is this fact: the existing RepDem structure is beholden to big business. Both sides are.

The only way to keep this sinking ship afloat is to continue with the lies that both sides have been playing with.

That’s the reason that the Koch’s didn’t support Rand Paul (no matter what you read, they didn’t…do some research, people. I suggest caffeine in big doses  :^)….Koch’s know that what the Paul’s stand for is *not* supportive of big business (in an unfair embodiment).

Like I said, this is going to hurt but the sooner we stop fighting and living in our personal dreamworlds, the sooner we can get our finances in order.

Until then, we are a puppet for China — which is why we are in Smackstan (for the lithium mines and other rare earths — which are required to make batteries for our green machines and other stuff the Chinese will feed us as we beg for their help and sell them our hotels, bonds, and daughters… :^)

Sad state, huh?

Americus

Ps – consider boycotting certain big businesses until they (and their purchased officials in DC) start listening to us and start improving legislation to better support We The People who should be their highest regard. Boycotts are part of what makes this country great — the Liberty to smack down in a free market. Boycott C eNN Enn too – see my post about censorship.

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“because history proves time and time again that the rich don’t create
more jobs and manufacturing (that era being over); they invest in the
stock market, and make the money work for them.”
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The stock market is not a product, and is not beneficial nor wholesome. Which is why our country is failing. Our govt has allowed us to move so far from our roots that we no longer make products. We are beholden to bankers who are empowered to rip off everyone both here and abroad. This will need to change — we need to make something once again. Not war. Something good.

For now we only wave a wand and magically create fake wealth in the air of the market (casino, yes..). It’s fake. Fake value.

Moneymen will need to reinvest in America, but until folks become (again) willing to work instead of waiting for handouts, well, tough nuts.

Which is why a basis in commodities (think food or metals for a split second) is part of the fundamentals in any solid economy (like ours here in our house, neighborhood, and community). During the bubble we were fine here. During this depression we have been fine too.

How about your country? Nuff said.

I know this is confusing. Kinda like looking into a woman’s purse, I guess. Most women would say that there is a method… but guys can’t figure it out. LOL

John, this is VOODOO economics.  The failed policies of Jude Wanniski (supply-side economics), who came up with this lie to turn the tables on the New Deal (because it was an election winner), was what the Republicans said to twist the argument.  People buy things because they have money to buy things. When there’s no money, they don’t buy. 

When Goldwater lost, Jude Wanniski asserted this lie: that people buy things, because things are around to buy.  The more things, the more buying.  But this is a lie.  Demand is what governs supply.  No demand, and you can’t even give the things away.  People remember this concerning sex, but forget concerning money.  They remember when trying to make their children eat, but forget re money because of the invention of credit.  Before all this happened, people RARELY got credit.

But Greenspan liked the idea (of supply-side economics) and promoted it to the banks, to extend credit.  He said, So what if they don’t have money?  Give them credit, and they’ll buy.  We’ve got alot of things, so they’ll do alot of buying.  He brought the same philosophy to the stock exchange.

And that’s how the people of the nation and the government itself got maxed out and deeply into debt.  They loved the lie, because they could get things without paying for it … right away.  But lies catch up with you. And when they do, you lose you house and your job.

And that’s why Bush Sr. and Dwight Eisenhower warned us about these lies, not to fall for it or think that way.  But we loved that lie, and we kept buying.  Republican terms got us far deeper into debt than Democratic terms, because Republicans were believers and purveyors of the lie.  They though it was RIGHT, and so did many Democrats.  They thought it was divine favor!

But supply-side economics causes bubbles.  Bubbles burst.  Then there’s tears, loss, debt and hardships.  But the banks come out the winners.  And it dovetails so nicely with their desire to get large blocks of land, and sell them to agriitech businesses.  See, why would they want to take a risk on you in this miserable market, to sell a house to you?  They want a big, flush corporation.  Your lost money helps beautify them for their corporate debut (corporations shop banks, and select carefully).

The drug of VOODOO economics ruins whoever messes with it.

John, this is VOODOO economics.  The failed policies of Jude Wanniski (supply-side economics), who came up with this lie to turn the tables on the New Deal (because it was an election winner), was what the Republicans said to twist the argument.  People buy things because they have money to buy things. When there’s no money, they don’t buy. 

When Goldwater lost, Jude Wanniski asserted this lie: that people buy things, because things are around to buy.  The more things, the more buying.  But this is a lie.  Demand is what governs supply.  No demand, and you can’t even give the things away.  People remember this concerning sex, but forget concerning money.  They remember when trying to make their children eat, but forget re money because of the invention of credit.  Before all this happened, people RARELY got credit.

But Greenspan liked the idea (of supply-side economics) and promoted it to the banks, to extend credit.  He said, So what if they don’t have money?  Give them credit, and they’ll buy.  We’ve got alot of things, so they’ll do alot of buying.  He brought the same philosophy to the stock exchange.

And that’s how the people of the nation and the government itself got maxed out and deeply into debt.  They loved the lie, because they could get things without paying for it … right away.  But lies catch up with you. And when they do, you lose you house and your job.

And that’s why Bush Sr. and Dwight Eisenhower warned us about these lies, not to fall for it or think that way.  But we loved that lie, and we kept buying.  Republican terms got us far deeper into debt than Democratic terms, because Republicans were believers and purveyors of the lie.  They though it was RIGHT, and so did many Democrats.  They thought it was divine favor!

But supply-side economics causes bubbles.  Bubbles burst.  Then there’s tears, loss, debt and hardships.  But the banks come out the winners.  And it dovetails so nicely with their desire to get large blocks of land, and sell them to agriitech businesses.  See, why would they want to take a risk on you in this miserable market, to sell a house to you?  They want a big, flush corporation.  Your lost money helps beautify them for their corporate debut (corporations shop banks, and select carefully).

The drug of VOODOO economics ruins whoever messes with it.

Isn’t it always said that the sign of a great deal is one where NO ONE is satisfied? Isn’t that what we have here?

And the BIG GUV-MINT crowd are a bunch of wee-todds. They are FOR bloated government and they are FOR wasteful spending. Yes! We want MORE money going to research masturbating monkeys in Ethiopia! Yes! More of THAT please! They are under Nancy Pelosi hypnosis or something. Wee-todds. All of them.

I agree.  For this reason, I’ve never played the market.  It’s gambling, and I won’t do it.  I’d have an easier time betting on a horse because at least I can see the horse.

Plants (biomass) is what they’re after … not just here, but around the world.  All can see, we’re not immune.  In India, they won the first big lawsuit to keep the rights to their herbs (agribusiness wanted to shut them out, and tried to Monsanto them, like they did to the people of Colorado).

But these new synthetic genomed plants are genetically spliced with nanos to grow into cylindrical shapes … not complete cylinders, but more like crescents.  Shape is extraordinarily important within the body.  You can have the right materials, but if they’re in the wrong shape they won’t work — and the same with creating other things.

In this case, the nanos aren’t alive (kind of like a virus); they’re synthethically created and spliced into the plant genome to form these odd crescent shapes, which are convenient for manufacturing processes.  However, in the human body they’ll cause great pain, sickness and death.  

Sickle cell is one such disease, caused by blood cells in the wrong shapes, which aggregate and scratch at the linings of blood vessels, kidneys and their delicate filtrations, the liver, lungs, eyes and brain.  This causes blood clots, infarcs, strokes, swelling and agony, and death — all because of the damage the wrong shape causes.

That’s what these plants will do.  Even if you say, I’ll just eat meat — the cow you’re eating, or the chicken, or that farmed fish, will be fed feed made from these plants.  It’ll get into you.

That’s the next big new thing in America — what the agritech businesses want the land for, and want to be rid of the EPA for (which is why Republicans are targeting them, but not solely the reason).

But alot of kids are going to have small online businesses and are going to be completely interdependent and mobile (you see it happening with their phones).  They won’t be paying attention to this food issue, and it will make them sick, and sabotage the new entreprenuership on the individual level, which is the economic hope of things turning around for the families of the nation.

We’ve got to prevent this from happening … and it will take people of both sides putting their heads together to save their lives and the lives of their children.

Fact: Jon Stewart is a demarodent power house. Are you getting Tea Party flu?

Fact:

 oh shut the fuck up.

Total liberalism wants to silence opposition at all cost. Typical classy move on libs part.

So, following your logic, if we’d lost WWII under Truman or due to some bone-headed Truman military decisions, ol’ Harry could claim that it is not his fault because it was the Roosevelt “policies that allowed for such a scenario”? Balderdash!! The President has to be accountable. Otherwise, Obama can screw the country for eight years and claim “it was the Bush policies that allowed for such a scenario. “. 

Fact:

I think most TEA members would agree — we need to take some of the money away from the people who have the biggest inflow

No the Tea Party doesn’t think that way. Wrong absolutely wrong assumption on your part. Tea Party wants less government restrictions on people with biggest inflow so that they want to invest it and by that investment more employment is a result of them not hiding money from the kleptomaniacs that try to redistribute wealth by the take some idea.
No the Tea Party doesn’t think that way. Wrong absolutely wrong assumption on your part. Tea Party wants less government restrictions on people with biggest inflow so that they want to invest it and by that investment more employment is a result of them not hiding money from the kleptomaniacs that try to redistribute wealth by the take some idea.

Hi Americus, I somehow lost the answer I was preparing and I’m so tired now.  I’m going to have to read more about Rand Paul.  I reacted poorly to him initially, but I think I wasn’t ready to hear him out.  

We oughtn’t to be so afraid of China.  Yes, they’re growing and have weapons, but so is the entire third world. Now that’s something to be afraid of — the coalition of the third world nuclear countries.  The Europeans under Germany might come to our aid (but only if they can rule us with an iron hand, and they will).  The Russians and China are allies with us, after a fashion, for the time being, but they’re after Arab oil, and will turn on us with North Korea along for the ride, when the Arabs do.  You don’t want the play by play.  It’s a mess, and I’m too tired to dwell on it.

You answered my Afghanistan question without my even asking.  I didn’t know we were mining lithium there.  It makes sense.  We can’t say that our people aren’t involved with the opium trade.  I think they are.  But I kept thinking, It can’t be only about the opium. 

However, I completely disagree with Warren Buffet.  Lies are a drug, and you cannot overcome an addiction while using the same drug you’re addicted to.  The addict must come clean, and so must we.

God won’t bless lies (but Satan will).  The bubbles seemed like divine favor to those who were temporarily profiting, but in the end, not only the people, but even the banks, had great trouble.  The banks were the only ones to come out of it alright, because they were the instrument of destruction, so Satan blessed them.  He used them to snare the people.  And it only worked because the lies were loved, an(d shared, and retold, and believed, and held up as Truth and The Right Way.  But bubbles burst. So ends the lie … in pain, trouble, loss and death. 

The thief only comes to steal, kill and destroy.  He’s been stealing our money this entire last century; he’s killing us through wars, toxins, and in the near future, foods.  And he’s going to work on destroying us through debt, global alliances that dominate us, and other national alliances that unite against us.

We can’t afford lies, not even lies that seem to patch together our tattered patchwork of people.  The men who most want to avoid telling the truth, are men who’ve derived power from their lies and don’t want to give it up.  But we must just keep repeating the truth, displaying the truth — and revealing the lies; how they were formed, why they were told, and why people kept repeating them.

At the heart of it, we wanted something for nothing, and credit (which Greenspan caused the banks to extend) seemed to bolster Jude Wanniske’s supply-side lie, while creating the illusion of truth to the people that they really didn’t need to pay for things — just charge them.  But that led to all of this.

Not only did people do it, and then alot of it, but the government followed suit.  Now we need rigorous truth to put the lie to shame, and put it away forever.  If we don’t, we will fail.  But truth strengthens those who love it.  If we love and act on the truth, we will rebound.  It’s that basic.  OK, goodnight now, and talk with you soon.  I enjoyed your comments.

That was hilarious!

I’ll put money down now, this whole circus was a ruse to deflect attention from the real story.  I would guess that the White House was notified that Moodys and S&P plannned to lower the US bond rating due to our overwhelming debt.  Faced with having that responsibility placed solely on his presidency, we manufacture a dramatic debt ceiling debate so that, when the inevitable happens, we can blame Congress rather than the White House. 

Any one disagree?

Nonsense. You could take every last penny from every billionaire in America…not just their income, but all of their wealth, every penny they have…and you wouldn’t erase this year’s deficit. You cannot tax your way out of this problem.

I know math is hard, but you can’t argue with it. The primary reason for our structural debt is, quite simply, that we spend more than we take in. Those nasty across-the-board Bush/Obama tax cuts account for about $350 billion a year. We’re $1.64 trillion in the hole this year. Even if you assumed having the $350 billion, we’d still be $1.3 trillion short. We never ran a deficit over a trillion until Obama’s “one-time” stimulus. Now it’s the new normal. Now it’s the baseline. How’d that happen? 

Funny that one cannot even keep the lights on if they spend their money foolishly on other things, Jon.

This isn’t freaking rocket science, it’s about financial solvency.  It’s not about taxes, it’s about spending ourselves into obliivion to the point where you cannot even manuever.  Being broke and in debt gives you poor options.

Wants versus needs. There is not enough money on the planet to give everyone a pony, no matter what your imagination says.  Eventually you do run out of other people’s money.  Even taxing ‘the rich’ at 100% won’t give you enough to cover it all…Because we’ve been lead by juvenile people who feather their nests, pay off their constituents and have literally treated our nation’s capital like a frat house.

No ownership, no care, no stewardship…just a rape and pillage of the treasury.  And as all families that are broke, once you hit that point, your options are dismal unless you create boundaries about how you spend your cash.

If you always do what you’ve always done, you’ll always get the same results.  Decades of being spendthrifts have brought us to this place. Don’t whine like a child about it being different, be an adult and do something about it.

First step, stop voting for people who BS and make you feel good and instead vote for someone who is actually competant in the field that you want expertise.

A BBA allows for deficit spending in emergencies. It just takes a supermajority. And given that it was a Democrat that got us into WWII, we’d have spent the money. It’s a cute talking point, but it ignores the facts. Which is nothing new.

Ask me when everyone is unemployed. Which, at the rate we’re going…

Myself being from the biggest spending state in that area, California….where are they NOW?

30 bilion dollar annual budget deficit and teetering on the edge of economic collapse. 

You’re not subsidizing anything by using someone else’s credit card to feel good about yourself.

Btw, CA could use a few more of those awful corporations with an unemployment rate of 11.8%.  Which doesn’t even take into account all of those that are underemployed.

I would love to see a full analysis of their budget and a discussion about it.  The entertainment factor would be golden. 

How does one justify all of those benefits for state employees when the state is on the rocks?  Are they considered elderly, poor or disabled?

I’m thinking you might be “wee-todded”. you’re clearly a conservative hack because how unbelieveably idiotic do you have to be to think that democrats want more wasteful spending. Nobody wants that. Unless you consider the military, medicare, social security, the post office, the FAA and public schools wasteful spending, then i still wouldn’t want more, i would want more EFFICIENT spending. Which is what all liberals want. Seriously how stupendously dense, how preposterously ignorant are you to think democrats want to just waste money willy nilly? Its just silly. Thats like saying that because all conservatives are christians, they support pedophilia

Actually the Middle Class is annoyed today.
We’re shedding tears, but it’s because we’re being raped.

There is no victory for Democrats or for Republicans because neither are being represented anymore. 
It’s all about pleasing the top 2% and the Corporations….the ones who heavily fund their campaigns.

You really think that’s what’s going on in state capitols? You’re really that juvenile? Wow.

Uh, considering the bs that they spent the first stimulus on, which was namely ridiculous crap which did nothing, doubling down just means more debt.

If our country was a company, we would have already been shut down.  You can’t keep running in the red and expect to survive.

Btw, why wasn’t infrastructure focused on with the FIRST one?  Answer:  Too many constituents to pay off,, first.

Is it so hard to just say “tax increase” and call it what it is? Same goes for “spending in the tax code”, a new Obamaism that’s an absurd lie. There is no spending in the tax code. There’s just not. Lower taxes is not spending, period.

They’re not cutting spending AT ALL because they build growth into the baseline. If they simple froze spending at today’s levels, that would be scored as $9 trillion in cuts. It isn’t. It’s cuts from expected growth, not from what we’re actually spending.

We’re still going to be borrowing $4 billion A DAY. This solves nothing, unless the BBA passes.

Using reconciliation. That was not a budget bill. Yep, when they slammed it through the Senate on Christmas eve, that was against the rules.

Thank you. Yes, when we see the common man start to say such wise things, we the TEA people think to quote one of our most revered leaders and teachers…..

“I feel… like butter, scraped over too much bread…” .

I think p_kitty was referring to Don Lemon (see my post immediately above its)

Americus

The reconciliation bill was not passed until March 21, 2010.  How do you slam a bill through the Senate by a 60-39 vote after more than five months of galvinizing public debate. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_ActThe original Senate bill which was passed through regular order was passed 12/24/09; the House passed that bill on 3/21/10. After passing the Senate bill, the House took another vote and passed the reconciliation bill.  The Legislative branch makes up its own rules on how it conducts its business; no rules were broken when the healthcare bill was passed.

Hopefully Tommy or someone can identify the prescient reporter featured in the clip. I’d like to read some of what they’ve written and add their Twitter to my lists.

I have to reply to my own post since I cannot reply to “just4thefax” .

I specifically and carefully qualified when I wrote “….we need to take some of the money away from the people who have the biggest inflow(in the case where those inflows are unfair. Listen to what Buffett has to say on that subj. He agrees.)”

Example: Geithner and Summers and their as*h buddies on Wall Street. They NEVER should have been allowed to take home half-billions in bonuses. No, never, no, never, no, never (to use Reid’s emphatic way).

That was my point. If they are criminal mobsters or banksters, they need to pay. We need to put them under microscopy and extract everything they have pulled from humanity. TEA people are fair. What people like Ken Lay and Gthner and Summers did, and the list goes on and on…they need to pay us back. We are the people who know how to live a sustainable life founded in reality and the occasional hobbit drink . We know how to balance a checkbook, and would prefer that bankers and the like no longer get the opportunity to rip the USA off…

Part of being a Libertarian requires that you do no harm to others. Do as you wish, but do no harm.

Part of being a good human requires that you have morals and punish those who do not. That’s what I’m talking about — changing the code of ethics so that we know what is right and wrong again, and punish properly those who steal from others.

just4thefax….. I have to reply to my own post since I cannot reply to “just4thefax” ‘s post…

I
specifically and carefully qualified when I wrote “….we need to take
some of the money away from the people who have the biggest inflow(in
the case where those inflows are unfair. Listen to what Buffett has to
say on that subj. He agrees.)”

Example: Geithner and Summers and
their as*h buddies on Wall Street. They NEVER should have been allowed
to take home half-billions in bonuses. No, never, no, never, no, never
(to use Reid’s emphatic way).

(I now add to the list: Dodd, Fannie, Freddie, Mozilo, anyone who was part of the pump and dump — I can assure you that the TEA people were NOT part of enabling the pump and dump which was the bubble/dump that brought us here  and still is going to hurt…). How many billions did those people make? How many lives did Lay and the willful collusion and coverup by the folks at Freddie and Fannie crush and ruin? People at Freddy and Fannie KNEW back in 2000.  What year is this?

visit some real news… www. bloomberg dot com / and tack this on…

news/2011-06-30/fannie-mae-silence-on-taylor-bean-mortgages-opened-way-to-3-billion-fraud.html

That was my point. If they are
criminal mobsters or banksters (and many are — and are enabled by the crooks we elected in our wealth-addleed states of mind in our Lexuses and Beemers), they need to pay. We need to put them
under microscopy and extract everything they have pulled from humanity.
TEA people are fair. What people like Ken Lay and Gthner and Summers
did, and the list goes on and on…they need to pay us back. We are the
people who know how to live a sustainable life founded in reality and
the occasional hobbit drink . We know how to balance a checkbook, and
would prefer that bankers and the like no longer get the opportunity to
rip the USA off…

Part of being a Libertarian requires that you do no harm to others. Do as you wish, but do no harm.

Part
of being a good human requires that you have morals and punish those
who do not. That’s what I’m talking about — changing the code of ethics
so that we know what is right and wrong again, and punish properly
those who steal from others. 

Americus

“’Yes, government still exists,’” he cried. “’We still have traffic lights.’”

We need to spend $3.8 trillion a year on the federal budget to fund busy intersections? I realize Stewart is being a wiseass(I assume he’s aware that local governments are responsible for traffic lights), but given how quickly we’re headed for the fiscal cliff, is there any spending he’s ok with cutting(besides defense)?

No, Levi, you clearly don’t “get” what Barney was saying. Typical of a liberal to have problems with comprehension. 

We always do things differently, but all the nations would say we’ve
played the whore to wealthy corporations and persons, and they’ve used
us and given us nothing.

Nothing? Americans have nothing? What? Our poor people are FAT, ferchrissakes.

We either take the money we need by law…

From who?

http://tinyurl.com/cylq3q

Gotta go with what you have, right?

Saving you the effort, here is the best of the link  :  ” Fannie Mae Silence on Taylor Bean Opened Way to $3 Billion Fraud :  The first sign of what would ultimately become a $3 billion fraud surfaced Jan. 11, 2000, when Fannie Mae executive Samuel Smith discovered Taylor, Bean & Whitaker Mortgage Corp. sold him a loan owned by someone else. ”

——

Put that in a pipe and smoke it, Fannie and Freddie fans. Oh…..wait….. that would be all of us, right, since we now own the dying pigs?

Go team. Woo hoo. Woot woot. Rah rah. Rahm. Emanuel. How’s that crime wave up there. Oh, right. No guns. Except for the criminals. Just like the old days. Only newer.

So much to gripe about , so little audience!!  :^)

Speaking of audience — the next time a congressman comes onto The News Hour I would love it if the interviewer could be as prepared as I am to call BullS … that latino on the other night complaining about how Mcare Mcaid monies will be cut, ya know….he knows damn well the cuts will come off the providers’ fatback — not ours. But yet, he LIES. (Sorry). Jeffrey should have not let him get away with the lie.

WTFudge is wrong with media today? We need a boycott list yesterday complete with email addrs’s for subjects and bossses alike, and no fear to use it.

Enjoy the day. Time to get to my real job.

Americus

Every statement Obama makes has an expiration date attached. You’ve been PUNKED……

The left should be celebrating today…..The debt has been raised, and there is a possibility (probability) of tax increases down the road….The tea party got nothing….

Is it a crime to be a liberal?  Question for all: Why is conservatism so much more inherently American than liberalism, and vice versa?  Can you objectively, and with evidence from credible sources, point to the inherent anti-American arguments that could be applied to either side of the political spectrum?  No rhetoric, just rational arguments.  It’s more difficult than you may think and you may conclude we all are much more similar than what is propogated in media.

How did the US economy ever create jobs without trillion dollar stimulus bills? It seemed to do it just fine in the roaring 20′s. It did it in the 1950′s. It did it in the 1960′s. It did it in the 1980′s. It did it in the 1990′s. And it did it in the middle part of this past decade. During none of those eras did the government go on the kind of spending binge we’ve witnessed over the last few years.

There is a big difference between being educated and taking a lot of courses.  Kitty and Darladoon seem to have taken courses without becoming educated. 

Texas and Wisconsin come to mind.

Voting present! What’s new?

I answered this in a reply to a previous comment you made.  You either haven’t gotten around to it (I checked you diqus stats, you’ve been busy I see) or chose to ignore it because it dismantled your argument.

But lets look at this shall we?

1 – The economy was fine in the 20′s?  You are either ignorant to history live in your own little world.  Yes the early parts of the 20′s were booming, BUT none of it was liquid (much like the late 90s-00′s) and it caused the GREATEST ECONOMIC MELTDOWN OF ALL TIME.  You know, the great depression.  Steinbeck wrote a few books about it.

2 – Tax rates in the 50-60′s were not only higher than they are today, but the highest since the federal income tax was implemented.  Plus there was a booming car industry and people had manufacturings jobs that were not being outsourced.

3.  This next line shows that you are either unaware of history or just wanting to ignore it. Reagan BALLOONED the deficit.  Granted, it wasnt for stimulus packages or what not, it was for defense.  He spent trillions on the latest and greatest weaponry and bases.  He spent trillions on projects that at the time wouldnt work or couldn’t be implemented. Oh and he gave billions, and then armed and trained people like Saddam Hussein, the Contras in south america and oh yeah… a guy named Bin Laden.  While Reagan did cut taxes and scale some government.  He actually RAISED taxes and CUT loopholes in the first term of his presidency. 

4.  The 90′s not only had a higher tax rate then it is now but actually had a balanced budget.  This was to cover for NAFTA, trade deals with Korea and China, deregulation of wall street, and getting a hummer in the oval office by an intern.

My point is, government spending does not create or destroy jobs.  Neither do taxes. 

BUT BUT JON STEWART NEEEEEEEEEVVVVVEEERRRRRR MAKES FUN OF DEMOCRATS NEEEVVVVVEEEERRRRRR!!!!!!!

So lets just call a spade a spade.

Every person I’ve ever worked for had less money than I did.  Oh wait…no I have that backwards.

NIce language.  A real class-act. Murcuh – 2011.

Yes – I know, I hope the rest of the country is paying attention. Our resident Dems are on a roll, passing the Dream Act last week, pushing our primary election to June. 

BTW- I think that law would have so many bad consequences, it is too scary to contemplate. But leave it up to our California Dems ( a special breed of bad policy makers) to even take it beyond the “thinking” stage an actually try to make it a law.

Wasn’t that Jon Stewart in Washington raving about nonpartisanship and communication but it seems that when it actually happens he is ridiculing the outcome and the process.  I never realized what an opportunist phony he could be. 

It’s not bipartisan when one party says give us what we want or the world economy gets it!

Economics 101: in hard economic times, a government must spend.

No… I was commenting on Cameowalkin comments specially targeting the wealthy- and as he pointed out he wants ALL the wealthy to go, “money has no party’ was his comment. Trust me I not incapable of grasping anything. The comment was NOT based on tax the rich -it was based on deporting them – grasp trying to stay on topic.

The cumming in pants joke was probably the best part of that segment

Nobody puts the Tea-gangsters in their place like Stewart.

Here is a You Tube video of Francis in case anyone was interested in seeing. Just don’t call her by her name.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrllCZw8jiM

The Libs are distancing themselves from their plastic messiah like the plague.

Someone show me the cuts.  Stewart is all weird faces and no substance.  The left won the second Obama got his hands on another 2.4 TRILLION dollars the country does NOT have.

Again….show me what was cut.

Not if you don’t have the mental capacity to do anything with it.  

Sees what as a weakness?  That, in all of her education she proudly cites to bolster her arguments, she has never taken any Economics, yet she holds forth as an expert?  Or that she is a liberal?  Either way, the answer is yes.  I am a conservative who sees those as weaknesses.

Once again, Stewart reveals how little he understands about the Tea Party.  They want better government, too – which means less, not more as Stewart and the liberals want.

Do you have a brain injury or something? Rush and Levin aren’t politicians. They are without a doubt conservatives first and foremost.

For someone not to understand this means you know so little about what you are talking about you are an embarrassment to your cause.

@ReFlex76:disqus did you hear that on MSNBC, or did you take Econ 101 from a Keynesian liberal professor?

Hahahaha….

Because a government that represents 40% of GDP, all spending in America, and is only reducing the GROWTH of government by 87% is like government is not even there!

He’s so funny.  Stewart’s such a comedian!

Oh, and darn that we couldn’t raise taxes in the midst of a recession.  Too bad, that.

He’s not making fun of them.  He’s whining that they aren’t stridently progressive enough for his tastes.

They already did liberal_pussy. Look up the Sohpists since obviously you aren’t that educated

China is waiting for us to cut defense spending enough so that they can outspend us on military and eventually overpower us. The sad thing is that they’ll be doing it with our money.

My thought I wonder if Obama caved in or he ultimately couldn’t make any deals with the Republicans, especially the Teaparty ones.  I only know that its a truly terrible deal with the burden solely on the one’s who can least support the group.  IE, low income who depend on medicaid, medicare and/or social security.

Look up the distribution of wealth in this country and how its changed over the last 40 years, and tell me about the great jobs that have been created to bring the middle class along with the rich.  You can’t because there’s no such thing as trickle down economics.  if there ever was, it’s obsolete in the US, because only place it’s trickling down is into third world countries that offer cheap labor = more profits = richer people. 

You dumbfuck.

It’s o.k. to borrow money when your GDP is expected to grow and is very sizable.  That’s one of the main reasons the debt keeps growing.  The problem is GDP is not growing very fast… suddenly the debt to expected growth ratio looks awful.  However, how do countries generally stimulate economies?  Not by allowing private spending to mobilize slowly (i.e., see all the banks and companies sitting on cash).  They do it by the government stimulating the economy.  We’re in a tough spot, but the only way to get out of it may be to “dig up”.

Temper temper…lol

Just basic History (see the 1930s and 40s); and thanks for acknowledging John Meynard Keynes as a forgotten economic genius!

Riiight, the key words here are “emergencies” and “supermajority.: (as in an “emergency” is whatever the “supermajority” decides it is)  Congratulations, you just handed the US and the world to the Axis!  

Actually, it kept unemployment stable; had it been more, I could see 5% unemployment.

Governments are not companies, this is why “CEO Presidents” tend to be colossal failures. (besides Dubya, see Italy and Silvio Berlusconi)

Actual Answer: attempts to appease Republicans.

Did Stewart just call Obama a turd sandwich?

Wow, is Stewart a racist?

Could have fooled me.

a) Haven’t you guys gotten into enough trouble lately referring to people you don’t like as “boy?”

b) You don’t seem to understand the expression “jumped the shark.”

c) When was Stewart every out to prove he’s a moderate?

d) If he proved anything, he proved he’s more sane than you loons that think — despite the entire history of nations to the contrary — you can erase debt without revenue.

It’s like Arab nations in the Middle East… whenever Israel gives ground, it’s never enough. They demand more and won’t stop until Israel disappears. The Tea Party — which, by the way, bears almost zero resemblance to the original Tea Party patriots — won’t be happy until all liberals disappear. Along with all taxes and all government, except maybe for an over-zealous military. 

Typical of today’s conservatives — that is, those who call themselves conservatives but resemble so little of the legacy of informed conservatism — to ignore the actual argument and turn it into a debate of something irrelevant, then call it victory.

Now there’s the truth. It’s astounding to think that some members of the Middle Class have yet to figure out that they’ve no friends left in Washington. The Tea Party? One has to be kidding. The leaders are rich who see it as a pitbull organization to keep taxes at bay. And the poor suckers that support it are those who have yet to understand that it’s THEIR jobs, THEIR savings, and THEIR children that will bear the brunt of this “tax-revenues-don’t-matter” fallacy.

Much as I hate to say it, because I generally can’t stand him… Charles Krauthammer seems to try, every once in awhile, to keep the debate above dirt level. And very occasionally, George Will. I say that, by the way, as someone who leans liberal.

What? He’s the stupidest, most BS-biased voice in the bunch. 

So… you’re sure Stewart is a douche, even though you didn’t listen to what he said… and you’re guessing he probably didn’t read the deal and things “all things in politics are equal” (or at least, wants to appeal to that crowd), but you can’t know for sure because… you didn’t watch the clip. 

Hmm.

Is this tendency to form sweeping opinions without information just a personal problem of yours or systemic to the political pals you keep aka the Tea Party nitwits? I would wish the former, but more likely it’s the latter.

Here’s news for you, pal: What’s outrageous about the media today is that Stewart, a comedian, is more likely to have read the bill than most so-called professional journalist pundits. 

I suppose you think the Republicans have been doing that? Your partisanship is absolutely myopic!

nana nana nana…hehehe…you’re a tough guy aren’t you?…LOL