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Judge Napolitano To Arianna Huffington: ‘How Can Anybody Take You Seriously?’

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The guest list on today’s Freedom Watch, Fox Business Network’s libertarian talk show, was a roundup of the usual suspects– almost. There was Rep. Ron Paul, his son, Senator-Elect Rand Paul, former Congressman Bob Barr and liberal media mogul Arianna Huffington. Needless to say her visit was slightly more contentious than any of the others, with host Judge Andrew Napolitano repeatedly bringing up Huffington’s conservative past and asking, “how can anybody take you seriously?”

Huffington’s appearance likely marks the guest most deviant from the program’s philosophy (with Wikileaks’ Julian Assange at a close second), and definitely one of the more fiery interviews. She was on the program to promote her book, Third World America, and to debate the merits of various government-based programs. Needless to say, sticking up for a large federal government is not on Judge Napolitano’s radar, and while he agreed with her on reducing defense spending on wars abroad, domestic spending was a major point of debate. When asked whether the government should “redistribute wealth,” Huffington retorted, “Do you mean taxes? Are you against all taxation?” Judge Napolitano held strongly to his beliefs against spending, suggesting that “private enterprise should take over roads and highways” and that the “short term interests of investors [are] good for capitalism.”

Meanwhile, Huffington argued that, while she didn’t trust the government to spend on wars or bank bailouts, “I believe that we need to reach out and help those in need.” “It’s not about delegating our compassion to government,” she continued, later adding that one reason she believes in larger oversight, among many, is that “small government gave us the BP oil spill.” This allegation seemed to set Judge Napolitano off, his last question to Huffington being, “you made your name as a conservative Republican and now you want the government to do for people what they can do for themselves. How can anybody take you seriously?”

The debate from this morning’s Freedom Watch on Fox Business Network below:

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  • Harry Flashman

    Huffington is a creature of opportunity and has very cleverly sailed the political winds to her great financial benefit – not that there is anything wrong with that. There isn’t. Good for her.

    BUT – a wise political sage she isn’t, nor is she one that should be taken seriously. She’s a savvy parrot who regurgitates talking points well.

    Anyone who deals with her would do well to remember that.

  • The Lantern of Truth

    im ted . I’ve seen this lady make hotcakes on her tv show . but , i don’t want her cupcakes .

  • maxine

    yeah, a little bit like Ann Coulter.

  • The Lantern of Truth

    im ted . if sombody drops a cupcake in the woods and nobody sees it , is there a cupcake ? i don’t know . i don’t have a cupcake to do this xperimint .

  • Mr.Papshmer

    She’s a media whore who found a niche on the far left. She made a name for herself when Clinton was impeached, figured the pool was too full, and found that liberals were easy game for a new gig.

  • timzank

    maxine said:
    yeah, a little bit like Ann Coulter.

    Absolutely no comparison. lifelong conservative self made multi millionaire author and commentator as opposed to a opportunistic gold digging leech that fucked her ex-husband outta millions and now leeches off the soft headed liberals she claims to be one of (until a better gig comes along).

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    maxine says:
    yeah, a little bit like Ann Coulter.

    Ann Coulter wouild trash Huffington in a debate with 3/4 of her brain tied behind her back.

  • M Colins

    Add David Brock to this list as well. This guy is responsible for Media Matters and has never had to account for his start as a conservative hitman, having written bestsellers about Anita Hill and Hilary Clinton.

  • dummy123

    LIZARD BRAIN!

  • dummy123

    She takes Soro’s money.
    How can anyone talk her seriously.
    Why don’t these loudmouth leftys give all their money to the government….live off $50,000 a year?
    How about just give up limos, private jets, and 2nd & 3rd homes??
    How about lead by example….unplug from the grid with solar and wind power at their homes??

  • TeaPartyPatriot

    “Judge Napolitano To Arianna Huffington: ‘How Can Anybody Take You Seriously?’”

    To help the lunatic-left d-crat socialists, let me point out that Napolitano’s question is “Rhetorical”, which means NOBODY with any sense takes TheHuff, who used to be a CONSERVATIVE before losing her mind when her husband divorced her, seriously.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Kelly/720731075 Chris Kelly

    For balance, here are some reasons why you can’t take Napolitano seriously:

    http://24ahead.com/n/9933

    (And, here are several posts detailing why you can’t take Barr seriously: 24ahead.com/s/bob-barr And, of course, since teapartier/libertarian types aren’t too bright I have to note that I have dozens of posts highly critical of Huff’s site: 24ahead.com/s/huffington-post ).

  • U NO HOO

    “How about just give up limos, private jets, and 2nd & 3rd homes??”

    Arianna H. said she only uses private planes because they are going somewhere anyhow.

  • Rusty Shackelford

    I loved her on Green Acres. The chores..the stores,darling give me Park Ave..

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Chris Kelly said:
    For balance, here are some reasons why you can’t take Napolitano seriously:

    What a stupid asshole. Your link to a leftist website is hilarious. Now, go ask your professor how you should reply.

  • Michael2010

    Yeah, unlike that all so “credible” Judge Napolitano.

  • felixw

    Napolitano versus Huffington? It’s easy to predict who wins the match-up between those two intellects.

  • Republitarian

    maxine said:
    yeah, a little bit like Ann Coulter.

    Ann Coulter doesn’t “parrot” anyone, at anytime. Whether you agree with her or not, she says some remarkably unique and original things. Huffington doesn’t. Ever.

  • btimsah

    I love the judge. His show is some serious libertarian porn on a free-market laptop. What I love most about the judge is how he gets down to the core principles and ideals that explain differences. Do you believe the income tax is immoral? Your answer on this question will tell me all I need to know.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    lol…Beck used to be an alcoholic, Catholic shock-jock and now he is your Mormon messiah and none of you Rightty’s have any trouble taking him seriously.

    People change. Get over it.

  • felixw

    TeaPartyPatriot said:
    NOBODY with any sense takes TheHuff, who used to be a CONSERVATIVE before losing her mind when her husband divorced her, seriously.

    The Left used to ridicule Arianna Huffington and treat her like one big joke. But that was when she was married to a REPUBLICAN candidate for office. When she became a PROGRESSIVE all their jokes stopped immediately, and Arianna emerged overnight a darling of the left. .

    That might be surprising….unless you understood the smear-and-ridicule approach of the American Left, which they use in all instances, against all opponents, every day of the year. You saw the same turn-on-a-dime character attacks lodged against Joe Lieberman, Bart Stupak, etc. Liebeman was praised by the Left for his integrity and fine character, until he took a political stance that they didn’t like — then the most vile stuff was said by the same people who had praised him only a short while before.

    Of course, after a while people figure out this game, as has already started to happen. They understand that a character attack from the Left has nothing to with people’s characters, but is part of ugly hardball politics of the most hypocritical kind. If you have any doubts, watch Rachel Maddow for a week or so — another darling of the Left whose views on Bart Stupak’s “character” (to cite one example) changed week-by-week depending on his support of her favorite piece of legislation. Who can take such “pundits” seriously, when their craven actions are so transparent?

    So, yes, the Left loves Arianna now. But they would throw her overboard in a hearbeat, and tell everybody she is an idiot and embarrassment, the moment she departed from the progressive agenda.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Also, isn’t it you Righty’s who love to brag that people inevitably go from liberal to conservative as they age?

    I guess that’s noble but to do the opposite is laughable.
    As usual you guys are all over the map with your inconsistencies.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    lol…Beck used to be an alcoholic, Catholic shock-jock and now he is your Mormon messiah and none of you Rightty’s have any trouble taking him seriously.

    People change. Get over it.

    Beck was a disc jockey. I know it’s cool to call him a “shock jock”, but he was your run of the mill dj doing what run of the mill dj’s do. He was born a Catholic, but then again, Harry Reid was born a Mormon.

    Beck converted to LDS and it changed his life. Quite a bit different than some broad who figured she could make more money being a liberal than a conservative.

  • musicjunkie701

    “Huffington’s appearance likely marks the guest most deviant from the program’s philosophy (with Wikileaks’ Julian Assange at a close second)…” has the guy who runs this site ever watched Napalitano’s show?? Assange is directly in line with his philosophy. Ariana is not.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Mr.Papshmer said:
    Beck was a disc jockey. I know it’s cool to call him a “shock jock”, but he was your run of the mill dj doing what run of the mill dj’s do. He was born a Catholic, but then again, Harry Reid was born a Mormon.

    Beck converted to LDS and it changed his life. Quite a bit different than some broad who figured she could make more money being a liberal than a conservative.

    It’s ALWAYS different when your side does it, eh? lolol

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Mr.Papshmer said:
    Beck was a disc jockey. I know it’s cool to call him a “shock jock”, but he was your run of the mill dj doing what run of the mill dj’s do

    \
    BTW, Beck is still a shock jock on the radio you’re just too stupid to be shocked.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Mr.Papshmer said:
    Quite a bit different than some broad who figured she could make more money being a liberal than a conservative.

    Yeah, Beck’s not in it for the money!!!!!!

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    lol…Beck used to be an alcoholic, Catholic shock-jock and now he is your Mormon messiah and none of you Rightty’s have any trouble taking him seriously.

    People change. Get over it.

    But there’s a huge difference here. Beck had a conversion experience that, among other things, helped to overcome his alcoholism. Neck talks about this experience all the time, and can pinpoint the exact moment of his “bottoming out” that led him to change his life so drastically.

    Huffington, on the other hand, has never (to my knowledge) explained why she changed from being conservative to a bug lefty. The conversion happened overnight. When asked about it in the clip above, she diverts the question and responds with some crap about BP, an incident that happened many, many years after her switch.

    I understand political conversion. I used to be a Democrat. I worked on Capitol Hill for a Democrat congressman, and then ran for public office as a Democrat. Obviously, I’m not a Dem any more. I can explain why. Why I was wrong then, and what caused me to learn and understand the error of my ways. I might believe that Mrs. Michael Huffington’s conversion was sincere if she could to the same.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    Yeah, Beck’s not in it for the money!!!!!!

    Of course he’s in it for the money, dumb fuck. Jesus Christ, where did you go to school, Southwest Peking A&M?

  • skyfet

    Judge Napolitano is a disgrace, a disgrace.

  • Rusty Shackelford

    Think just how sweet Arianna must be…..caused her husband to jump the fence and play for the other team.Wow,that must be some nasty cooze.

  • dummy123

    Mr.Papshmer said:
    Beck was a disc jockey. I know it’s cool to call him a “shock jock”, but he was your run of the mill dj doing what run of the mill dj’s do. He was born a Catholic, but then again, Harry Reid was born a Mormon.

    Beck converted to LDS and it changed his life. Quite a bit different than some broad who figured she could make more money being a liberal than a conservative.

    Reid and his wife, who was born to Jewish immigrant parents and grew up in Henderson, converted to Mormonism while Reid was a college student.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    AnonymousFinch said:
    But there’s a huge difference here.

    Not seeing it.

    “The conversion happened overnight.”

    No. It didn’t. It started in the late 90′s and it wasn’t until 2004 that she came out for Kerry.”"When your house is burning down, you don’t worry about the remodeling.” LOL…Bush was enough to convert anyone to Liberalism.

    “Huffington, on the other hand, has never (to my knowledge) explained why she changed from being conservative to a bug lefty. ”

    Wrong again.
    [[["I left the Republican Party [because] my views of the role of government changed. I used to think that the private sector would solve many of the major problems we are facing–poverty, inequality. And then I saw firsthand that this wasn’t going to happen.”]]]

    Her conversion is no more inexplicable than Dennis Miller’s.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    I’m not going to watch the clip because it’s far too long, but based on Francis’ synopsis, I will say that outside the subject of new media, nobody takes Ms. Huffington seriously. She’s a self-made media creation, who has some hand in running a blog site, but otherwise she churns out books like term papers and makes appearances on television because she’s an easy get.

  • timzank

    skyfet said:
    Judge Napolitano is a disgrace, a disgrace.

    You guys really hate those judges that don’t make up the law as they go, don’t ya?

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    ETA: Has anyone ever quoted Arianna Huffington on a subject other than blogs?

    At the Stewart/Colbert post-rally press conference, she asked a question that I considered mentioning in my comment to this site about the exchange. Without replaying the clip, she asked him where he’d focus the flashlight and if I had decided to reference it, my point would’ve been Stewart’s response.

    @maxine says Ann Coulter and I’d mix-in a little Julia Allson because of her pop culture savvy.

  • CosmosDan

    So the judge thinks private enterprise should take care of our roads? How does that work exactly and how does that save the tax payers money? Isn’t that what basically happens now when we hire outside companies to to the work, and, isn’t that part of why it cost too much?

  • CosmosDan

    So what the basis of the Judge’s argument. Since government is corrupt then if we have less government we’ll have less corruption? Is that a realistic grasp of how things work?

    Spouting unrealistic vastly over simplified principles is just TV not meaningful analysis. The suggestion that someone changing their views means they shouldn’t be taken seriously is just noise.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    dummy123 said:
    Reid and his wife, who was born to Jewish immigrant parents and grew up in Henderson, converted to Mormonism while Reid was a college student.

    That’s cool, I stand corrected, and it doesn’t really matter.

  • skyfet

    @timzank
    No you Joker. I think he’s a disgrace for thinking that most on unemployment benefit are lazy.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    CosmosDan said:
    So the judge thinks private enterprise should take care of our roads? How does that work exactly and how does that save the tax payers money? Isn’t that what basically happens now when we hire outside companies to to the work, and, isn’t that part of why it cost too much?

    Not really. Here in the private sector, when I bid a job, I’m held to my quote. If things change after I begin the job, I submit a change order which may or may not be accepted. If my vendors fail me, I will be backcharged for time lost and dates not kept, which in turn I will backcharge the vendor who failed me.

    Bidding government work is a whole different animal. When your estimators are done, you third their estimate, knowing that whatever agency you’re dealing with has a head that doesn’t really care and doesn’t pay the bills. Just the way it works, son. When you need more time and money, they’ll pay.

  • michael moore

    I wonder how anyone takes a 9/11 truther judge with his own Fox show seriously.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    @Mr.Papshmer: You third your bids?

    Technically and legally, I’m a defense contractor, though none of my interests have done a lot of work for DoD and I’ve dealt primarily with other agencies. I also know a lot of government contractors, some of whom work exclusively with DoD and occasionally I’ve participated in joint bids.

    If you take state contracts off the table because they are easier to adjust or alter in some jurisdictions and focus only on those going to federal agencies, I’ve found that most of those whom I know build in a little extra padding to offset any potential overruns because there are so many rules governing the bid process and usually the padding will be needed, but I’ve never known anyone who deliberately underbid.

    If you third yours, you must win a bunch of contracts and have such a good relationship with whomever approves the changes, I’m surprised no one has ever raised a question. As far as I can recall, a major adjustment would require a new statement of work, possibly a new bid and more trouble than it’s worth.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Magister said:
    Mr.Papshmer: You third your bids?

    Yup, weird how that works, huh? What’s even weirder is that I don’t get that many government contracts.

  • Edsopinion1

    Well, she was a conservative and now a liberal. Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. In Huffington’s case she was able to change in the face of the facts. Napolitano hs not reached that point yet.

  • michael moore

    Edsopinion1 said:
    Well, she was a conservative and now a liberal. Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. In Huffington’s case she was able to change in the face of the facts. Napolitano hs not reached that point yet.

    No Judge Napolitano went from a mainstream Republican judge of some respectablity to a raving lunatic crowing about False Flag Operations, the Amereo, the big highway connecting Mexico to the US, 9/11 was probably an inside job and other assorted New World Order horse shit. Great guy he is.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    @Mr.Papshmer: Again, I have to admit that I incorporate anticipated potential overruns into my initial bids, so maybe the fact that you’ve had to go back for a 300% markup may be a factor as to why some of your bids have been rejected.

    Otherwise, since I’m here… I do want to clarify that my previous comment should not be interpreted to mean that I think the federal system is flawless. I could make a couple of suggestions that would save the taxpayer money. My question was only about the idea of reducing a bid by two-thirds.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Magister, the 300% markup you talk about is not really that, it’s simply a 33% rule we use for government project bids. I use a 35% rule, as most people do, to cover overhead and make a profit.

  • Latin2

    She became a Liberal when she couldn’t go to any Hollywood and elitist cocktail parties as a Conservative…so she switched when she became a rich woman…and out of touch with the people.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    @Mr.Papshmer: Okay – I’m confused. Are you saying that your initial bid is 35% of the project’s anticipated cost or 135%? I read your comment to say 35%, which is the source of my confusion.

  • CosmosDan

    Mr.Papshmer said:
    Not really. Here in the private sector, when I bid a job, I’m held to my quote. If things change after I begin the job, I submit a change order which may or may not be accepted. If my vendors fail me, I will be backcharged for time lost and dates not kept, which in turn I will backcharge the vendor who failed me.

    Bidding government work is a whole different animal. When your estimators are done, you third their estimate, knowing that whatever agency you’re dealing with has a head that doesn’t really care and doesn’t pay the bills. Just the way it works, son. When you need more time and money, they’ll pay.

    OKay, but that doesn’t explain the Judge’s knee jerk reaction that private enterprise shpuld maintain our roads and how and why that’s better.

  • CosmosDan

    Mr.Papshmer said:
    That’s cool, I stand corrected, and it doesn’t really matter.

    Which makes one wonder why it was mentioned at all.

  • CosmosDan

    I have to say I’m constantly surprised by the ability of some posters to read the minds and hearts of people they don’t know in order to discern selfish or hateful motives. It’s really quite remarkable ,….or something.

  • HD Veteran

    Remarkably coherent comments by Constitution loving users here. Wish I could say the same for the Progressives.

  • Powerslave

    dummy123 said:
    She takes Soro’s money.How can anyone talk her seriously.Why don’t these loudmouth leftys give all their money to the government….live off $50,000 a year?How about just give up limos, private jets, and 2nd & 3rd homes??How about lead by example….unplug from the grid with solar and wind power at their homes??

    Simple…….they don’t want to spend THEIR money. They want to spend OUR money.

  • Powerslave

    CosmosDan said:
    OKay, but that doesn’t explain the Judge’s knee jerk reaction that private enterprise shpuld maintain our roads and how and why that’s better.

    Private enterprise already maintains most of the roads in this country. They are hired by the Govt. and our tax dollars pay for it.

  • Powerslave

    Latin2 said:
    She became a Liberal when she couldn’t go to any Hollywood and elitist cocktail parties as a Conservative…so she switched when she became a rich woman…and out of touch with the people.

    Isn’t that also how John Kerry’s wife did it? Now she and Kerry (the richest man in the senate) spend the Heinz family fortune. I’m sure John Heinz has been spinning in his grave ever since.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Magister said:
    @Mr.Papshmer: Okay – I’m confused. Are you saying that your initial bid is 35% of the project’s anticipated cost or 135%? I read your comment to say 35%, which is the source of my confusion.

    If you’re confused, you’re not in the business. 35% is a standard markup.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    CosmosDan said:
    Which makes one wonder why it was mentioned at all.

    That Beck was born a Catholic by some liberal? Yeah, me too.

  • StewartIII
  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    @Mr.Papshmer: Okay – So we’re not disagreeing and I misunderstood your “in the private sector… I’m held to my quote” and your “bidding government work… when you need more time and money, they’ll pay” to mean that you deliberately underbid with the idea that you’ll go back for more and somehow you missed all my stuff about the rebids, new statements of work and how folks generally “pad” their initial, so they don’t go back to the trough.

  • hanoisteve

    Napolitano said: “let wallmart create those middle class jobs”. Can you live a middle class life on those wages?

    Do you tea-baggers really think the private sector will build the bullet trains and repair the water systems and bridges? investors would want a return to invest in project like this. Tell me all about it when your waterbill increases 10 fold to pay a hedege fund from Hongkong.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Mag, yes, I deliberately underbid government projects. Yes, they will sign off on any change orders, regardless of their scope.

  • http://none pyrope

    You’ll go a long way looking for someone to equal Dr. Napolitano’s understanding of the Constitution. Also, you will go a long way looking for someone to match his abilities to reason things out.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Kelly/720731075 Chris Kelly

    Almost all teapartiers are lying, smearing idiots and many of them are cowards. “Mr.Papshmer” is a good example. Namely, I’m a bit too old to have a professor, the site I linked is mine, it’s not a “leftist” site, and, of course, “Mr.Papshmer” is too cowardly to give us a link to its site or even tell us who it is.

    And, that same dynamic has repeated itself over and over: every ‘partier I’ve run into lies and smears; they have little or no moral compass and little or no ability to tell true from false.

    For a categorized list of the topics I’ve covered in 9200+ posts since 2002, see:

    http://24ahead.com/topics

  • Pecunium

    That’s cool, I stand corrected, and it doesn’t really matter.

    Then why did you bring it up?

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Pecunium said:
    That’s cool, I stand corrected, and it doesn’t really matter.

    Then why did you bring it up?

    I didn’t bring it up. BFD brought it up. Get a life, asshole.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Chris Kelly said:
    Almost all teapartiers are lying, smearing idiots and many of them are cowards. “Mr.Papshmer” is a good example. Namely, I’m a bit too old to have a professor, the site I linked is mine, it’s not a “leftist” site, and, of course, “Mr.Papshmer” is too cowardly to give us a link to its site or even tell us who it is.

    And, that same dynamic has repeated itself over and over: every ‘partier I’ve run into lies and smears; they have little or no moral compass and little or no ability to tell true from false.

    For a categorized list of the topics I’ve covered in 9200+ posts since 2002, see:

    http://24ahead.com/topics

    You’ve got to be shitting me, what a fucking retard. You link to your own site to prove a point?? Jesus Christ, where do you dumb fucks come from?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Mangan/100000213524770 David Mangan

    Arianna has a third-rate mind and her Zsa Zsa imitation is wearing thin. Just how does she justify going from far right to far left in the space of six months back before her face needed daily injections of botox? Just like Andy Sullivan and just as nutso whacko as Excitable Andy.

    Ann Coulter has a law degree from the U. of Michigan and Arianna has a bogus degree from Europe somewhere when she was Arianna Stassinopoulos and before she married a rich American, then went crazy and divorced him & switched to commie in a spectacular mid-life crisis fireworks display. Ann has written several books that are well-researched. Arianna shoots off her mouth and is ghosted frequently on her eponymous Post, which is as full of hot air and BS as she is.

  • w_t_f

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    maxine says:yeah, a little bit like Ann Coulter. Ann Coulter wouild trash Huffington in a debate with 3/4 of her brain tied behind her back.

    And this coming from a brainiac!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Mangan/100000213524770 David Mangan

    @Mr. Papshmer

    This spermburper Kelly is a paid shill/tout with a “site” that contains talking points filled with specious reasoning, unsound statistics and outright lies. That he keeps citing his site which consists of DNC talking points for morons like himself demonstrates his ethical shallowness and in the substance of his ‘talking points’ on his site, whatever he posts here should be regarded as spam.

    Spam that verges on moral depravity.

  • tylerkalr

    She used to be at least somewhat conservative- or at least pretended to be. I remember when her husband was running for the U.S. Senate and he was on some TV talk show and he started railing about the tobacco companies and there was some Hispanic comedian on the show who ignored what he was saying and just tore him to shreds as some rich guy. It was so sad it was pathetic.
    http://bodyquickmuscle.com

  • k1oik

    A previous poster said:

    “And, of course, since teapartier/libertarian types aren’t too bright I [...]”

    Since you have forced this label on me, I assume that what you are saying is that I am not too bright. I think that you require that I wear some kind of label, for your ease of identification, because you are not bright enough to realize that what I want is the US Constitution to be the law of the land. And if you say “oh, you mean you are against all taxes?” then you are changing the issue. And if you say “oh, you are just like that c*** Ann Coulter” then you are changing the issue. Because either you do, or you do not, support the idea that the Constitution is the document that describes the letter – and the intent – of the government of the United States.

    If calling someone a “teabagger” makes it easier for you to understand, I guess that is OK, for a while. But ultimately, this is not a civics lesson. This is big boy world where people live or die on the rulings of judges, and laws of Congress, and executive orders of Presidents. It’s not some cute word game.

    Your president told us, in a speech, that “words matter.” He is right. When you use words like “Conservative” it means “people who want to conserve”. This word, conserve, often means “to save”, such as in “conservation” of the wilderness, for example. And a conservative in a political sense, means to save the Constitution. When you slander people who want that, you are not only offensive to them, but offensive to the idea of a lawful government. You also show your naiveté in politics. You are what experienced politicians call a “shill” and “useful idiot.” Stick around… you’ll see.

    Now if the next word out of your mouth is actually an insult to a person, either to me or to an unnamed person whom you personally attack, save your breath. I’ve been insulted before, even by people who know what they are talking about. If however, you want to discuss why the Constitution should be ignored, I am all ears.

  • Pablo

    Latin2 said:
    She became a Liberal when she couldn’t go to any Hollywood and elitist cocktail parties as a Conservative…

    Yeah, after she turned her husband Michael gay.

  • BeesBuzz

    After this Commie vermin left the studio, I hope the good Judge fumigated the place.

  • valkyrie101

    David Mangan said:
    Arianna has a third-rate mind and her Zsa Zsa imitation is wearing thin. Just how does she justify going from far right to far left in the space of six months back before her face needed daily injections of botox? Just like Andy Sullivan and just as nutso whacko as Excitable Andy. Ann Coulter has a law degree from the U. of Michigan and Arianna has a bogus degree from Europe somewhere when she was Arianna Stassinopoulos and before she married a rich American, then went crazy and divorced him & switched to commie in a spectacular mid-life crisis fireworks display. Ann has written several books that are well-researched. Arianna shoots off her mouth and is ghosted frequently on her eponymous Post, which is as full of hot air and BS as she is.

    Anne Coulter is a rabblerouser and a “devil’s advocate”. She says outrageous things to get attention and notoriety thereby causing people to pause and reflect on her “insanity”. She creates discussion on the toughest issues and that is why she is great. That is FOX’s gift, in generat, too..

  • valkyrie101

    oops,
    in general

  • pansycritter

    dummy123 said:
    She takes Soro’s money.How can anyone talk her seriously.Why don’t these loudmouth leftys give all their money to the government….live off $50,000 a year?How about just give up limos, private jets, and 2nd & 3rd homes??How about lead by example….unplug from the grid with solar and wind power at their homes??

    Until the loud-mouth liberals do this, no one can take any of them seriously. Their true philosophy is to take your money to pay off their liberal wish list. You can’t even get the damn democrats to pay their own taxes. Case in point; Kerry still has not paid his canoe tax. Hypocrites.

    Until you damn democrats pay your own taxes you have no right to demand I pay more.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    valkyrie101 said:
    She says outrageous things to get attention and notoriety thereby causing people to pause and reflect on her “insanity”

    Do you ever pause and reflect that progressivism is a minority position? Do you ever stop to think that most people don’t think the way you do? Has it ever occurred to you that since most people disagree with you, you’re the one who’s wrong? Have you ever thought that we’re normal, and you’re not? Does it strike you as odd that you have an obsession with Beck’s Mormanism, and no one else really cares?

    Sorry, son, but your pal Obama has applied the brakes to progressivism for at least the foreseeable future. Progressives own most of the media, all of the entertainment industry, and the majority of school kids. Yet, most people reject progressivism. Funny how that works. Imagine if those industries dumped on progressives the way they do conservatives.

  • Powerslave

    Mr.Papshmer said:
    Do you ever pause and reflect that progressivism is a minority position? Do you ever stop to think that most people don’t think the way you do? Has it ever occurred to you that since most people disagree with you, you’re the one who’s wrong? Have you ever thought that we’re normal, and you’re not? Does it strike you as odd that you have an obsession with Beck’s Mormanism, and no one else really cares?

    This is why democracy is a threat to progressives. It’s why after elections they call Americans stupid, uneducated. We’re dogs who can’t understand the issues.

  • Sean68

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    Not seeing it. “The conversion happened overnight.” No. It didn’t. It started in the late 90’s and it wasn’t until 2004 that she came out for Kerry.””When your house is burning down, you don’t worry about the remodeling.” LOL…Bush was enough to convert anyone to Liberalism. “Huffington, on the other hand, has never (to my knowledge) explained why she changed from being conservative to a bug lefty. ” Wrong again.[[["I left the Republican Party [because] my views of the role of government changed. I used to think that the private sector would solve many of the major problems we are facing–poverty, inequality. And then I saw firsthand that this wasn’t going to happen.”]]] Her conversion is no more inexplicable than Dennis Miller’s.

    According to Al Franken, Dennis Miller was always fairly conservative. I’ve been a fan of his since the mid-80s when he started doing Weekend Update on SNL, where he was replaced by another fairly conservative guy, Norm MacDonald. I remember Miller doing a joke in the early 90s about Barbra Streisand’s politics (basically, she’s a rich hypocrite who complains, like arianna, about the plight of the common man doesn’t want to come within 500 feet of a person who actually sends his kids to a public school); and there it hit me at that moment: Miller’s a conservative! And this was at a time when I was still very liberal myself. I think because of the SNL context, people just assumed he was a lefty.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-McGinnis/100000472625231 Richard McGinnis

    ” with host Judge Andrew Napolitano repeatedly bringing up Huffington’s conservative past and asking, “how can anybody take you seriously?”

    Arianna Huffington – I take her seriously… Smile :-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-McGinnis/100000472625231 Richard McGinnis

    Arianna Huffington voices 2 Billion dollars a week on a War, while middle class Americans suffer… Fox Noise is just that….

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Richard McGinnis said:
    Arianna Huffington voices 2 Billion dollars a week on a War, while middle class Americans suffer… Fox Noise is just that….

    So you won’t be happy until Fox News starts editorializing a leftist viewpoint like Huff? What a dick. You lefties sure are stupid.

  • Nahu Tuk

    CosmosDan said:
    So the judge thinks private enterprise should take care of our roads? How does that work exactly and how does that save the tax payers money? Isn’t that what basically happens now when we hire outside companies to to the work, and, isn’t that part of why it cost too much?

    The best road in Fairfax County, Virginia (267) is a private road. The rest of them are in dismal shape–pavement spalling, pot holes everywhere, etc. West of there, there is the Purchase Parkway, in Kentucky, that is one of the best roads in the state. Down south, near Orlando, Florida, is a privately owned road; it’s very nice to drive on. I’m certain there are others that tell the same story. As for myself, I don’t care to fund government run roadbuilding projects for roads I’ll never drive on.

    As to the remarks about whether private industry can build a bullet train, I would be very concerned about riding any train built by the government. Government creates no jobs (except for their own bureaucracies), and government does not create wealth; government only confiscates wealth and squanders it.

  • crclarkNY

    I don’t get AH. I’m sure she has to be pretty savvy to be so successful, but it’s like she gets a thought in her head and it’s some great big idea. I guess her big idea is that the middle class has gotten screwed. Agreed, but she seems to hold both government and businesses accountable for that so not sure why just government – that she trusts when they do something she agrees with and doesn’t when they do something she doesn’t like -is the answer…

    And maybe it’s the language barrier, but I think if she said “better” government instead of “more” government, her arguments would have made more sense.

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: Every time Arianna Huffington speaks and opens her trap the room smells like ass! Not Cheese.

  • CosmosDan

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Every time Arianna Huffington speaks and opens her trap the room smells like ass! Not Cheese.

    Can we assume you’re an expert on ass sniffing then?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Kelly/720731075 Chris Kelly

    David Mangan is lying about me above, and as I indicated to him in a Facebook message unless he retracts it immediately and on this page I may sue him for libel.

    David Mangan helps illustrate why I say what I do about the teapartiers: they’re incapable of telling the truth, they have no interest in telling the truth, they act like children, they’re incapable of and uninterested in making any sort of argument, they have a fascistic streak a mile wide, and they’re just generally vile people. They lie, they mislead, and they smear. That’s all they can do and all they want to do.

    And, of course, another example is offered by “Mr.Papshmer” who’s incapable of even trying to make a valid argument against my points but simply engages in what amounts to an ad hom.

    The teapartiers can’t even make an argument and they want to run the country? No thanks:

    http://24ahead.com/s/tea-parties

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Mangan/100000213524770 David Mangan

    Ha ha ha

    “This spermburper Kelly is a paid shill/tout with a “site” that contains talking points filled with specious reasoning, unsound statistics and outright lies.”

    I take it back. No one would pay you for the mountain of garbage and lies and outright fecal material on your site!!!

    You’re a specimen of moral and ethical invert that personifies the bankrupt brain death of leftist fantasies and prevarications, a specimen of backwardness I thought I’d left behind in grad school. So sue me, creep!

    What a pathetic loser…!

  • VoiceofReason

    CosmosDan said:
    So the judge thinks private enterprise should take care of our roads? How does that work exactly and how does that save the tax payers money? Isn’t that what basically happens now when we hire outside companies to to the work, and, isn’t that part of why it cost too much?

    Actually it does work. Indiana leased part of I-69 and used the proceeds to work on other roads in the state.

    I work for the DoT and we are still using the money a few years later. It works quite well.

    In fact the Dems in thew state tried to steal the money for other crap and our Governor told them no.

  • VoiceofReason

    Sean68 said:
    According to Al Franken, Dennis Miller was always fairly conservative. I’ve been a fan of his since the mid-80s when he started doing Weekend Update on SNL, where he was replaced by another fairly conservative guy, Norm MacDonald. I remember Miller doing a joke in the early 90s about Barbra Streisand’s politics (basically, she’s a rich hypocrite who complains, like arianna, about the plight of the common man doesn’t want to come within 500 feet of a person who actually sends his kids to a public school); and there it hit me at that moment: Miller’s a conservative! And this was at a time when I was still very liberal myself. I think because of the SNL context, people just assumed he was a lefty.

    I’ll take Dennis Miller’s word for it. He stated he was very liberal on a good number of things until 9/11.
    Al Franken is a knob.

  • VoiceofReason

    valkyrie101 said:
    Anne Coulter is a rabblerouser and a “devil’s advocate”. She says outrageous things to get attention and notoriety thereby causing people to pause and reflect on her “insanity”. She creates discussion on the toughest issues and that is why she is great. That is FOX’s gift, in generat, too..

    Sorry…..but Ann believes what she says.

    She has stated as much on NUMEROUS occasions.

  • CosmosDan

    VoiceofReason said:
    Actually it does work. Indiana leased part of I-69 and used the proceeds to work on other roads in the state.

    I work for the DoT and we are still using the money a few years later. It works quite well.

    In fact the Dems in thew state tried to steal the money for other crap and our Governor told them no.

    Interesting. I’m all for creative solutions that work

    Lease to who? And, is it the state that is leasing it? If so, I’m not sure that counts as private enterprise, but whatever works. I certainly encourage responsible use of funds.

  • Nahu Tuk

    CosmosDan said:
    Interesting. I’m all for creative solutions that work Lease to who? And, is it the state that is leasing it? If so, I’m not sure that counts as private enterprise, but whatever works. I certainly encourage responsible use of funds.

    Dan, I can’t speak for the road in Indidana, but the ones I mentioned above are leased to private concerns. Those private concerns collect a usage fee, do their own maintenance, and return money to the local government coffers. In all, 267 (northern Virginia), employs about 4000 people full-time, and the roads are smooth and clear (although very crowded at times) throughout the winter.

  • Just_MC

    Chris Kelly said:
    David Mangan is lying about me above, and as I indicated to him in a Facebook message unless he retracts it immediately and on this page I may sue him for libel. David Mangan helps illustrate why I say what I do about the teapartiers: they’re incapable of telling the truth, they have no interest in telling the truth, they act like children, they’re incapable of and uninterested in making any sort of argument, they have a fascistic streak a mile wide, and they’re just generally vile people. They lie, they mislead, and they smear. That’s all they can do and all they want to do. And, of course, another example is offered by “Mr.Papshmer” who’s incapable of even trying to make a valid argument against my points but simply engages in what amounts to an ad hom. The teapartiers can’t even make an argument and they want to run the country? No thanks: http://24ahead.com/s/tea-parties

    Fascism is a form of STATISM. It is state control over the individual. Communism (and its theoretical counterpart socialism) are another form of STATISM.

    Libertarianism is the opposite form of government from all of these. The country was founded on libertarian principles. Extremely limited government, individual liberty over the power of the state, sound money, non-interventionist foreign policy, etc.

    The core of the tea party movement is libertarian. The GOP establishment attempts to take over the tea party movement are real and not unexpected. But the movement is not homogeneous, and the core has not gone away or changed its values.

    If you stand back and look across the spectrum of political America, the establishment Democrats and Republicans alike are fascists. The Democrats may be using that as a means to a communist/socialist end. The establishment Republicans would probably stay fascist. But ALL of those options are distinctions with littlle difference. They are marching further and further toward complete police states.

    The ONLY non-statist (non-fascist and non-socialist) political block in the country are the libertarians. Some are in the GOP, some are not.

    While I would agree that there are fascist establishment hacks in the GOP who want to coopt the tea party movement, a good chunk of the movement is libertarian. The democrats are also fascists.

    So, uniformly calling the tea partiers anything is silly. And uniformly calling them fascists is ridiculous. The whole establishment on both sides of the aisle is fascist, and the only people who aren’t are a slice of the Tea Party movement.

  • Armageddon T Thunderbird

    Why would anyone be stupid enough to give Anne Coulter the credit of being rabblerouser??? As with Sarah Palin, Laura Ingraham and Michelle Bachman, she is simply a life support system for a vagina and nothing more.

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