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Leave To Tebow What is Tebow’s: Pundits Should Leave The Player Out Of Politics

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Many will argue that Tebow’s mother’s Focus on the Family ad unleashed the deluge of both positive and negative political attention on him. The ad highlighted the story of how Tebow’s mother, Pam, chose to risk her life to have her baby when doctors recommended she abort. It passed no moral judgment, promoted no legislation or court action and, aside from what is inherent in even mentioning that abortions exist, was not what one would call overtly political. The ad was so uncontroversial, in fact, that rather than object to it on pro-choice grounds, NOW took issue with the playful tackle Tebow uses on his mom. This is how little of a case they had against it as a political statement. But that, coupled with Tebow’s proclivity for wearing Bible verses on his eyeblack, began an avalanche of political media attention that makes little sense in any empirical grounds.

Yes, Tebow has been on Fox News. But he’s been on MSNBC, too, and The Daily Show, to promote his book. And he made some statements beyond sports, like (to Sean Hannity) “When you have success on the football field, people are going to look up to you– it’s more than a platform, I have a responsibility.” How that translates into politics, however, is vague. When directly asked about politics– namely, his preferences in the 2012 race– he admitted only that he had been asked to endorse some Republican candidates, but that “I think you have to have so much trust in who you support, just from product endorsements to endorsing a candidate because if that person or company does something (bad), it reflects on you.”

RELATED: Bill Maher’s Christmas Eve ‘Jesus F**ked Tim Tebow’ ‘Satan Is Tebowing’ Tweet Stirs Outrage

Is it even clear that Tebow is conservative? Sure, he leads a publicly conservative life, insofar as he claims to be saving himself for marriage and abstaining from vice. He once approved of his own birth in a commercial, too. But Tebow also spends much of his time on things like aiding orphans and, well, doing interviews about aiding orphans. He is very public about helping the underprivileged. He hasn’t gone so far as to say the government should be working on further aiding the underprivileged, but would it be much of a surprise that someone that wants his legacy to be his work with the poor and sick may have some liberal views about social programs? Has anyone considered that, when Tebow says he believes student athletes should be paid, it may hint to a private desire to see some sort of unionization make that happen? There isn’t any evidence to prove that, but there really isn’t any evidence to the contrary, either.

What the synthetic attempts to evolve Tebow from cultural to political icon prove is a simple point: people in the real world are vastly more complicated than those who run for office or host shows about politics or write newspaper columns or blog posts– which is why labels like “conservative” and “liberal” only work to the extent that they do on the caricatures that candidates and pundits make themselves out to be. Normal folks like Tebow, who probably does not spend much time thinking about politics, don’t fit as easily onto labels and don’t uniformly take sides. Even the two ambiguously political tidbits the public knows about how Tebow views the world– that he avoids “temptation” loosely defined and conducts charity operations– can be each attributed to a different side of the political spectrum. And yet in the eyes of people who both attack and defend him, there cannot be doubt on whose team he belongs, else the entire structure that makes him relevant to political media collapses onto itself.

Yes, as a creature of cultural significance, “Tim Tebow” the icon is fully up for grabs to use in comedy sketches, jack-o-lanterns, and remakes of 80s hits that no one asked for. Sure, bash his weak passing abilities, turn him into David Bowie, or try to use his name to rehabilitate yours if you’re a widely disliked athlete. But keep him out of your campaign ads, your criticisms of North Korea, and, please, don’t compare the poor kid to Sarah Palin.

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  • Gloves Scott Donahue

    Does Tebow ever get T-Bone Walker’s or T. Boone Pickens’ mail by mistake?

  • Anonymous

    Blah, blah. What’s all that word salad for? Go, Broncos!

  • BooBoo Bear

    While I do know that this is a Sunday.Which is the perfect day for this discussion.

    Tim. My Bible as well as any Bible that I know of..Says to Pray in your closet. Where in “your” Bible does it say to pray in front of a crowd in the stands of 50,000+ and a TV audience of millions?

    That by my counting is 50,000+ and a TV audience of millions too many.

    Also, I’m sure that you probably will say that Homosexuality is an Abomination unto God, note to those who use the verses regarding Sodom & Gomorrah being destroyed because of Homosexuality. Why, did Lot not offer his future Sons-In-Laws instead of his daughters? My Bible says that Sodom was destroyed because they didn’t care about others. To me that makes them basically Republicans (Ezekiel 16:49). My Bible says that touching Pigskins is an abomination. Yet, you touch a pigskin everyday. My Bible also lists the Big 10. One being to “Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy”. Why are you violating one of the Big 10, while claiming that you are a Christian?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1572984371 Cindy Nowicki

    Does this writer really think it’s only liberals who believe in helping the poor, aiding the less fortunate, etc?

    Conservatives are no less apt and willing to invest time and money helping the “least among us.” We also have no issue with government programs to aid the truly impoverished, elderly, infirm and youngest.

    We believe in a hand up, not a permanent hand out, unless, through no fault of their own, it’s  not possible.

    Caring for our neighbors has no political affiliation. It is the goodness of this country’s people, that help those in need, not just at home, but around the world.

    BTW- Polls show that is IS conservatives who donate more money to charities and churches than their liberal counterparts.

    Conservatives believe in giving where it is best used and served, liberals believe government can better dole out funds. It is up to the individual to determine how their money and time is best spent, NOT the government.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1572984371 Cindy Nowicki

    MY bible (KJV) states….”Wherever two or more are gathered in my name, so shall it be a named a church.”

    Your bible regarding “pigskin” was meant for the Hebrew people (Jews) being found in the old testament. Christians are taught, upon the Resurrection  of Christ, there was no need to follow the Laws of Moses.

    The “laws” were meant and kept by Jews, not Gentiles.

    Sodom and Gamorrah were destroyed because of their wicked ways, NOT because “they didn’t care about others.”

  • BooBoo Bear

    Does that mean that you are for Homosexuality? Since Jesus never said anything about it.

    Go back to reading Ezekiel 16:49 regarding what “God” said about why Sodom was destroyed. If you want to call them evil ways. OK,

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    New International Version (©1984)
    “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.

    New Living Translation (©2007)
    Sodom’s sins were pride, gluttony, and laziness, while the poor and needy suffered outside her door.

    English Standard Version (©2001)
    Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy.

    New American Standard Bible (©1995)
    “Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had arrogance, abundant food and careless ease, but she did not help the poor and needy.

    King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
    Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

    GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
    This is what your sister Sodom has done wrong. She and her daughters were proud that they had plenty of food and had peace and security. They didn’t help the poor and the needy.

    King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
    Behold, this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom, pride, fullness of food, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

    American King James Version
    Behold, this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

    American Standard Version
    Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom: pride, fulness of bread, and prosperous ease was in her and in her daughters; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Now what wicked ways were you thinking about?

  • BooBoo Bear

    Does this mean that you aren’t for cutting Social Security and Medicaid/Medicare? After all the funds for these were paid for those receiving them. many paid into the system for almost 50 years.

  • BooBoo Bear

    Does that mean that you are for Homosexuality? Since Jesus never said anything about it.

    Go back to reading Ezekiel 16:49 regarding what “God” said about why Sodom was destroyed. If you want to call them evil ways. OK,

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    New International Version (©1984)
    “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.

    New Living Translation (©2007)
    Sodom’s sins were pride, gluttony, and laziness, while the poor and needy suffered outside her door.

    English Standard Version (©2001)
    Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy.

    New American Standard Bible (©1995)
    “Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had arrogance, abundant food and careless ease, but she did not help the poor and needy.

    King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
    Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

    GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
    This is what your sister Sodom has done wrong. She and her daughters were proud that they had plenty of food and had peace and security. They didn’t help the poor and the needy.

    King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
    Behold, this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom, pride, fullness of food, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

    American King James Version
    Behold, this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

    American Standard Version
    Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom: pride, fulness of bread, and prosperous ease was in her and in her daughters; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Now what wicked ways were you thinking about?

  • BooBoo Bear

    Just who else is in the end zone praying with Tim?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SMUGSPLRKQOJBS5T6I4S5H2YSE Andy-48

    Could it be that the “Liberals” read the Bible and know that they aren’t to be boastful in their giving?
    Even Muslims know that they are to give with one hand while the the other doesn’t know how much.

  • Joan Kelly

    Cindy,

    You’re the first person I’ve seen on this blog that seems to understand there’s a difference between the laws of the OT and the NT.  “Christians are taught, upon the Resurrection  of Christ, there was no need to follow the Laws of Moses.”  Well, finally…thank you, Girl!

    So why are we still hearing about the “abomination” of homosexuality?  Why is Rick Santorum still screaming about contraception when every physician in the world will tell you we need it to prevent overpopulation and life threatening diseases?!

    Tim Tebow, for all I know, is a nice young man who is living the life he wants.  I could care less about his ability to throw a ball because that comes from genes – not prayer – and, hey, I really don’t like football. 

    I am a bit uncomfortable with his blatant display of prayer.  I prefer to pray in secret.  But, as long as he doesn’t go political and try to tell me how to live – good enough. 

    I do not, for a minute, think he’s a bit better than any other soul living on this earth  anymore than I think the man called Jesus was more a “son of God” than any of us are.  The Creator created All.  We are all “Sons”.  The idea that people are “Tebowing” makes me uncomfortable because they’re doing it for the wrong reason or they would have been doing it in secret long ago.

    The KJV is merely one interpreted version of the Bible among many others.  Inclusive among all the versions was the gift of “Free Will” as bestowed upon all of us by God.  Therein lies my consternation with Tebow’s overt prayer actions and the Religious Right’s demands that we pass laws to exclude parts of us.  They set forth ideas that are rigid and exclusive: “If you don’t do it our way (pray on your knees) you won’t go to Heaven.”

    To me, God is Love.  “It” loves all of us eternally, totally and unconditionally.  How could It not when we are reflective of Him/Her/It?  I truly believe God needs us as much as we need Her.

  • Joan Kelly

    Cindy,

    You’re the first person I’ve seen on this blog that seems to understand there’s a difference between the laws of the OT and the NT.  “Christians are taught, upon the Resurrection  of Christ, there was no need to follow the Laws of Moses.”  Well, finally…thank you, Girl!

    So why are we still hearing about the “abomination” of homosexuality?  Why is Rick Santorum still screaming about contraception when every physician in the world will tell you we need it to prevent overpopulation and life threatening diseases?!

    Tim Tebow, for all I know, is a nice young man who is living the life he wants.  I could care less about his ability to throw a ball because that comes from genes – not prayer – and, hey, I really don’t like football. 

    I am a bit uncomfortable with his blatant display of prayer.  I prefer to pray in secret.  But, as long as he doesn’t go political and try to tell me how to live – good enough. 

    I do not, for a minute, think he’s a bit better than any other soul living on this earth  anymore than I think the man called Jesus was more a “son of God” than any of us are.  The Creator created All.  We are all “Sons”.  The idea that people are “Tebowing” makes me uncomfortable because they’re doing it for the wrong reason or they would have been doing it in secret long ago.

    The KJV is merely one interpreted version of the Bible among many others.  Inclusive among all the versions was the gift of “Free Will” as bestowed upon all of us by God.  Therein lies my consternation with Tebow’s overt prayer actions and the Religious Right’s demands that we pass laws to exclude parts of us.  They set forth ideas that are rigid and exclusive: “If you don’t do it our way (pray on your knees) you won’t go to Heaven.”

    To me, God is Love.  “It” loves all of us eternally, totally and unconditionally.  How could It not when we are reflective of Him/Her/It?  I truly believe God needs us as much as we need Her.

  • Joan Kelly

    Cindy,

    You’re the first person I’ve seen on this blog that seems to understand there’s a difference between the laws of the OT and the NT.  “Christians are taught, upon the Resurrection  of Christ, there was no need to follow the Laws of Moses.”  Well, finally…thank you, Girl!

    So why are we still hearing about the “abomination” of homosexuality?  Why is Rick Santorum still screaming about contraception when every physician in the world will tell you we need it to prevent overpopulation and life threatening diseases?!

    Tim Tebow, for all I know, is a nice young man who is living the life he wants.  I could care less about his ability to throw a ball because that comes from genes – not prayer – and, hey, I really don’t like football. 

    I am a bit uncomfortable with his blatant display of prayer.  I prefer to pray in secret.  But, as long as he doesn’t go political and try to tell me how to live – good enough. 

    I do not, for a minute, think he’s a bit better than any other soul living on this earth  anymore than I think the man called Jesus was more a “son of God” than any of us are.  The Creator created All.  We are all “Sons”.  The idea that people are “Tebowing” makes me uncomfortable because they’re doing it for the wrong reason or they would have been doing it in secret long ago.

    The KJV is merely one interpreted version of the Bible among many others.  Inclusive among all the versions was the gift of “Free Will” as bestowed upon all of us by God.  Therein lies my consternation with Tebow’s overt prayer actions and the Religious Right’s demands that we pass laws to exclude parts of us.  They set forth ideas that are rigid and exclusive: “If you don’t do it our way (pray on your knees) you won’t go to Heaven.”

    To me, God is Love.  “It” loves all of us eternally, totally and unconditionally.  How could It not when we are reflective of Him/Her/It?  I truly believe God needs us as much as we need Her.

  • Anonymous

    I was hoping Tebow would stump for me and give a shout out to Mormonism.

  • Anonymous

    I like how we conservatives give money to people without telling them. Makes us look extra humble.

  • Anonymous

    Even if I had a sense of humor I would have a hard time laughing at that.

  • Anonymous

    What’s a Bronco? Don’t you mean the Tebows?

  • Anonymous

    Excellent compilation of facts, now lets see how they’re received.

  • Anonymous

    The question is, just how far does someone have to fall before you are willing to give them a hand?

  • OSTL

    Your bigotry, sock puppetry and trolling are all duly noted and well known.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1572984371 Cindy Nowicki

    There are safety nets in place for those who fall on hard times. Unemployment benefits help those who’ve lost their jobs. Workers and employers pay into the system for that reason.

    Short term welfare assistance, through the Welfare to Work program, has been extremely successful in giving women a chance to go to school and succeed.

    Many organizations and charities also are available for short term help. This made possible through donations and in some cases, the government.

    You can only help those who have a desire to pick themselves up, not those who are a continuous drag on society.

    We can’t keep enabling those who have come to rely on the government for their every need.

  • Anonymous

    Tebow is 1 letter off:  “Pundits should leave the prayer out of politics.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1572984371 Cindy Nowicki

    Who is being boastful in giving? How many posters talk about how much they give, where it goes, etc. I haven’t seen any.

    Liberals don’t “give.” They pay taxes and then, expect the government to dole out wherever they feel is needed.

  • http://newsbusters.org/ AliveStiIIKickin

    I just laugh at all the liberal slugs demanding to get God out of the NFL.
    You can’t get God out.
    God is everywhere!!…AMEN!!
    Tebow puts God first in his life…therefore God IS his life….and he ain’t leavin’!!
    BTW….We have already seen WHAT replaces a Christian when he/she leaves a sport….and it ain’t pretty.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1572984371 Cindy Nowicki

    I believe SS and Medicare need to be means tested. Those in the upper income brackets would still pay into the system, but would not get near the amount they are currently entitled to. They would be guaranteed their initial investment and a small interest rate.

    You can’t cut off the wealthier recipients, as the government needs the money to support those in retirement, or nearing such.

    For those under 40, they would have the option of staying in the current system, or use a percentage of their savings, invested as they saw fit. With oversight and backing by a federal or state agency. In the way the FDIC insures accounts

    Medicaid would be taken over by the states, rather than the federal government.

    If you like these proposals, I suggest you read Rep. Paul Ryan’s bill!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adam-Hemmer/1061080208 Adam Hemmer

    It’d be funny if he came out supporting Obama. It’d break people’s necks watching how fast conservatives would change their opinion about him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adam-Hemmer/1061080208 Adam Hemmer

    Because all about how ya’ “look”, huh? Typical conservative…..the act isn’t genuine.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1572984371 Cindy Nowicki

    You realize that all the verses you posted have to do with their wicked ways?

    God commanded those to help each other. Where do you see that God commanded the “government” to help the poor, needy and least among us?

    God asks that “we” as individuals, help our fellow man.

  • Anonymous

    Can we limit preaching the bible one here.  Why the double posting?  Get a grip people.  Tibow is more than welcome to his beliefs, however, wearing it on ones sleeves is in very bad taste,  I sure hope “your” god is not wasting time on football.  No wonder the world is in the shape that it is.

  • Anonymous

    You act as if this is done as if there is no economic reality behind such decisions.  There remains several related questions to be answered if you are to honestly address the question you pose.  

    Your question is much to simplistic, I may be wrong but I read into your question a sense that we should tax more and uphold the promises made by our government to those who paid into these systems.  I also read into the your question the mood of many of this country that there is only one segment of the population that can be fairly taxed to the benefit of those who are struggling.  I may be wrong but this is the sense I get from you…

    Well, I have some questions that I to would pose…  

    Do we believe in a free economy, one that has created more wealth than any other system in the history of man, or would we be better served by an centrally planned economy?

    Is wealth and income generated by the private sector or is it generated by the public sector?  Can the government actually grow through the it’s enterprise and spending of tax dollars create and sustain economy that will support future generations and new entrants into the workforce?

    When government claims a larger percent of our economy to be their’s does it not come at the cost of the private sector and will the public sector be able to support families and workers as efficiently and autonomously as does the private sector or will it continue to require a larger tax base to support it’s efforts as it’s primary revenue source is tax based?

    Is it the fault of the private sector that our government has taken and spent the reserve funds of social security and medicare or is it the fault of our government, should the failure of our government to preserve the funds entrusted to it be borne but the government sector or by the private sector?  Where is the responsibility?  

    Do our politicians show us any sense of responsibility in dealing with reality as our debt approaches $16,400,000,000,000.00.  Are they offering you a vision of a future that you can believe in?  As government imposes itself over our economy are you really so trusting in their ability to create a better future than the systems that grew this country to it’s greatness, a system that many seem so willing to leave behind?

    Do you really believe that economic equality can actually exist?  Has that not been tried before in the course of human history?  Can you point to an instance of success of such efforts?

    Never in the history of man has the endeavor of economic equality been successful, in fact, only in the endeavor of liberty has the prosperity of the masses ever been fruitful.  The strength of the central government comes at the cost of liberty, if you can’t see this just look around at what is happening in this country today, as our government becomes more and more powerful they feel that it is their concern to do more and more, they are inefficient in what they do and they are reactive to special interests.  They see more and more every aspect of our society to be of their domain and require more and more control of our societies resources to fulfill what they see as their responsibilities withing that domain…  We are headed to centralized control over not only our economy, but of our liberty as the mood of many in this country has shifted from protection of individual liberties, the premise of our constitution to one of the betterment of the society, an attitude that our constitution was written to protect us against. 

  • Anonymous

    You act as if this is done as if there is no economic reality behind such decisions.  There remains several related questions to be answered if you are to honestly address the question you pose.  

    Your question is much to simplistic, I may be wrong but I read into your question a sense that we should tax more and uphold the promises made by our government to those who paid into these systems.  I also read into the your question the mood of many of this country that there is only one segment of the population that can be fairly taxed to the benefit of those who are struggling.  I may be wrong but this is the sense I get from you…

    Well, I have some questions that I to would pose…  

    Do we believe in a free economy, one that has created more wealth than any other system in the history of man, or would we be better served by an centrally planned economy?

    Is wealth and income generated by the private sector or is it generated by the public sector?  Can the government actually grow through the it’s enterprise and spending of tax dollars create and sustain economy that will support future generations and new entrants into the workforce?

    When government claims a larger percent of our economy to be their’s does it not come at the cost of the private sector and will the public sector be able to support families and workers as efficiently and autonomously as does the private sector or will it continue to require a larger tax base to support it’s efforts as it’s primary revenue source is tax based?

    Is it the fault of the private sector that our government has taken and spent the reserve funds of social security and medicare or is it the fault of our government, should the failure of our government to preserve the funds entrusted to it be borne but the government sector or by the private sector?  Where is the responsibility?  

    Do our politicians show us any sense of responsibility in dealing with reality as our debt approaches $16,400,000,000,000.00.  Are they offering you a vision of a future that you can believe in?  As government imposes itself over our economy are you really so trusting in their ability to create a better future than the systems that grew this country to it’s greatness, a system that many seem so willing to leave behind?

    Do you really believe that economic equality can actually exist?  Has that not been tried before in the course of human history?  Can you point to an instance of success of such efforts?

    Never in the history of man has the endeavor of economic equality been successful, in fact, only in the endeavor of liberty has the prosperity of the masses ever been fruitful.  The strength of the central government comes at the cost of liberty, if you can’t see this just look around at what is happening in this country today, as our government becomes more and more powerful they feel that it is their concern to do more and more, they are inefficient in what they do and they are reactive to special interests.  They see more and more every aspect of our society to be of their domain and require more and more control of our societies resources to fulfill what they see as their responsibilities withing that domain…  We are headed to centralized control over not only our economy, but of our liberty as the mood of many in this country has shifted from protection of individual liberties, the premise of our constitution to one of the betterment of the society, an attitude that our constitution was written to protect us against. 

  • Anonymous

    You act as if this is done as if there is no economic reality behind such decisions.  There remains several related questions to be answered if you are to honestly address the question you pose.  

    Your question is much to simplistic, I may be wrong but I read into your question a sense that we should tax more and uphold the promises made by our government to those who paid into these systems.  I also read into the your question the mood of many of this country that there is only one segment of the population that can be fairly taxed to the benefit of those who are struggling.  I may be wrong but this is the sense I get from you…

    Well, I have some questions that I to would pose…  

    Do we believe in a free economy, one that has created more wealth than any other system in the history of man, or would we be better served by an centrally planned economy?

    Is wealth and income generated by the private sector or is it generated by the public sector?  Can the government actually grow through the it’s enterprise and spending of tax dollars create and sustain economy that will support future generations and new entrants into the workforce?

    When government claims a larger percent of our economy to be their’s does it not come at the cost of the private sector and will the public sector be able to support families and workers as efficiently and autonomously as does the private sector or will it continue to require a larger tax base to support it’s efforts as it’s primary revenue source is tax based?

    Is it the fault of the private sector that our government has taken and spent the reserve funds of social security and medicare or is it the fault of our government, should the failure of our government to preserve the funds entrusted to it be borne but the government sector or by the private sector?  Where is the responsibility?  

    Do our politicians show us any sense of responsibility in dealing with reality as our debt approaches $16,400,000,000,000.00.  Are they offering you a vision of a future that you can believe in?  As government imposes itself over our economy are you really so trusting in their ability to create a better future than the systems that grew this country to it’s greatness, a system that many seem so willing to leave behind?

    Do you really believe that economic equality can actually exist?  Has that not been tried before in the course of human history?  Can you point to an instance of success of such efforts?

    Never in the history of man has the endeavor of economic equality been successful, in fact, only in the endeavor of liberty has the prosperity of the masses ever been fruitful.  The strength of the central government comes at the cost of liberty, if you can’t see this just look around at what is happening in this country today, as our government becomes more and more powerful they feel that it is their concern to do more and more, they are inefficient in what they do and they are reactive to special interests.  They see more and more every aspect of our society to be of their domain and require more and more control of our societies resources to fulfill what they see as their responsibilities withing that domain…  We are headed to centralized control over not only our economy, but of our liberty as the mood of many in this country has shifted from protection of individual liberties, the premise of our constitution to one of the betterment of the society, an attitude that our constitution was written to protect us against. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1572984371 Cindy Nowicki

    Tebow’s beliefs have nothing to do with party affiliation. My entire family is Catholic AND democrat.

    Why is Tebow being vilified for his religion? For showing his faith in public? Athletes, musicians, etc. have been praising the Lord in public ever since I can remember.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SMUGSPLRKQOJBS5T6I4S5H2YSE Andy-48

    It was mediaite.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1572984371 Cindy Nowicki

    I’m not sure if Santorum is against any form of contraception. If he is, he is in the company of very few other catholics. Most of them have no issue with birth control and believe the church is out of date on that matter.

    Although Santorum doesn’t believe in gay marriage, ( same with Obama, unless he gets a second term, at which time he would reverse his stand) I believe he has no problem with civil unions referring to benefits, estate taxes, inheritance, etc.

    I’m a Christian, but would never force my religion on anyone. Nor would I discredit anyone’s belief, or lack thereof.

    If my son, grandson, daughter, etc. were gay, I would accept and love them just as much. In fact, Rick Santorum said the same thing when questioned by the press recently.

    I don’t begrudge anyone openly practicing their faith. No matter where, when, or how.

  • Anonymous

    It’s not Tebow who’s making a big deal out of his faith. It’s CBS, NBC, FOX, and the NFL network. They keep zooming in him every 10 minutes. Tebow is a genuinely good kid, I doubt that he wants to be politically controversial. It’s the freakin medial which is making a big deal out of all this.

  • OSTL

    Also would be funny watching socks like you jump on his band-wagon like flies on dung.

  • http://newsbusters.org/ AliveStiIIKickin

    Blueblogger is one of those “lost souls” who don’t believe that Christians actually have conversations with God….yet his demons are crying out….STOP!!!…STOP THE PREACHING!!!…THEY’RE DOUBLE POSTING THAT STUFF!!!….I’M MELTINNNNNNNnnnngggggg

    He sure as hell hears THEM!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SMUGSPLRKQOJBS5T6I4S5H2YSE Andy-48

    You are aware of the fact that if Bush would have actually done what any other President did at the start of a war…Raised taxes instead of cutting them, the US wouldn’t had their National Debt increase like it did. If he had the debt would have actually been falling. Also if the TP/GOP would have allowed the Bush cuts to expire the debt would be falling.

  • http://Mediaite.com Frances Martel

    I deleted all the double posts– not sure if they were done to spam or just by error of the Disqus system so no one was blocked, but this is a nice time to remind everyone not to spam the commenters section and otherwise comply with our commenter guidelines. Thank you!

  • Anonymous

    You will not see me defending Bush’s deficit spending and I fail to see how this is an answer to the questions that I posed.  I do not disagree with your premise but that has little to do with the questions that we are faced with today and for this countries future.

    Bush although a republican was a progressive republican. It is hard to say that he was much different than our current president.  G W Bush believed in big government, he may have called himself a conservative but he, as many other of our so called establishment republicans, believed in big government and governmental solutions to societal deficiencies and did not place enough value on the economy’s ability to address those problems without governmental intervention.  Bush, welcomed the expansion of home ownership thorough the expansion and revisions of the regulations of the Community Reinvestment Act, he was aided in this effort by establishment republicans and democrats alike, this is what lead us to the collapse of the housing market..  President Bush also gave us tremendous expansion of the Medicare entitlement and offered no way to pay for his program…  which also added to the federal deficit, and lastly he fought his two wars with no adjustment of spending or revenues to balance the additional expenses to the budgets…  Bush is not my hero, but Bush now has also become a part of our history, he has no bearing on the questions that must be answered as we move to the future.

    The federal government has become so large and expanded itself into almost every aspect of our economy and increasingly into the lives of every American citizen, that at least in my mind it is time for us to honestly ask where do we want it to go from here…  are we ready to turn our economic and personal liberties over to the federal government, is this our vision of a better tomorrow, will it build a better and more prosperous nation or not?  Because IMO we are nearing the point of no return to the government and economy that built this great nation. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/codemon Cody Hill

    How are the right wing Xtians going to co-opt & switch a discussion to their favorite religion after the Broncos get beat tonight? Guess it’s back to crusading, lol

  • Anonymous

    Maybe Tebow should leave himself out of politics:

    “Tebow tested the waters by mixing religion and politics in 2010 when he filmed a Superbowl commercial for the anti-gay, anti-abortion organization “Focus On The Family,””

    http://www.huliq.com/10282/tim-tebow-asked-take-knee-jesus-and-leave-football-gop-evangelism

  • Anonymous

    And you are one of the ones thay should ban from here.  You act like a child.

  • Anonymous

    Cindy, you are right about all the others that show their faith.  I think it started with Tebow here in Florida because he made an issue out of it. 

  • Anonymous

    I don’t do it that way.

  • Anonymous

    I agree and I am a lib.

  • Anonymous

    I was right there with you until that last line.

  • Anonymous

    You must not watch much football.  Many do exactly the same thing as Tebow.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Completely agree! 

    If Tebow wants to teabag his fellow Christians, that’s his prerogative!

  • Anonymous

    So if the Broncos lose that means that god has forsaken Tebow, right?

    Use some logic you idiot.

  • Anonymous

    Then why doesn’t Fox News do stories about them constantly? Oh, that’s right, because most receivers in the NFL are black.

  • Anonymous

    “God” didn’t write the bible.

  • Anonymous

    No but he gets teabagged by the other team constantly!

  • Mo Fokker

    Have you heard the expression shut up and sing? Well Tebow needs to get off his knees and play football!

  • Anonymous

    Sodom and Gamorrah were destroyed because they were lazy and lawless like alley gangsters and evangelicals, not because of their sexual habits. Lot offered up his daughters because it was less of an offense to God than treating strangers badly.

  • OSTL

    No, he didn’t.

  • Anonymous

    conservatives have no true sense of humor, the only laugh they get is from themselves.  Maybe Gloves is really a junior high student with an IPad.

  • Anonymous

    No tebowing tonight, he’s getting smushed by Tom Brady. GO PATS

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg
  • http://newsbusters.org/ AliveStiIIKickin

    Mommy!!!…Mommy!!!…AliveStillKickin touched me!!!
    STOP TOUCHING ME!!!
    LOL!

  • Anonymous

    Tebow a smart man not a good QB he’s not endorsing anyone. He’ll work on his game all off season. Hats off to him for a great season, only one team can win it all but the Broncos had a fun run lead by Tebow.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    let me it explain it for you

    Tebow sounds a little like T-Bone

    (they both begin with the full pronunciation of the letter T…followed by the short b sound and the long o)

    and T-Bone sounds a little like T-Boone

    (notice the similar T and b…you may been thrown off because instead of a long o there is a double oo vowel sound, followed, wait for it an N sound, like in T-Bone but not T-Bow)

    That’s solid f u n n y.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    this is solid humor as well.

    notice how T-bag shares the “T” at the beginning, followed again by that hilarious b sound!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    The Broncos got slaughtered.

    I guess that means God doesn’t exist.

    Bring on the Atheists’s best funny!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    this is one of the dumbest threads I’ve ever read on mediaite, and that’s saying a lot

  • Anonymous

    I no rite!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    this is a continuation of one of the dumbest threads I’ve ever read on mediaite, and that’s saying a lot

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    Conservatives believe in using their money for control, influence and self-aggrandizement before God.

    A conservative church goer gives money in exchange for something. They want the receiver to join their church or to kneel before them in humble gratitude.

    A liberal sees more dignity in collecting taxes from the community and then using that money to help not only the needy but the whole community, such as the building of infrastructure and hospitals.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    This is not a totally unreasonable sounding proposal. 

    But here’s one of the problems with it. 

    “For those under 40, they would have the option of staying in the current system, or use a percentage of their savings, invested as they saw fit. ”

    Have you ever read a 401 K investment profile.

    You get to invest in “funds”, but when you read through what those funds are it’s completely indecipherable. So rather than investing in a specific business you think will succeed, you put your trust in a fund manager, who plays lots of accounting tricks and investment gimmicks, to the point where even the fund managers are trusting other fund managers, and so your investment is completely devoid of connection from what you invest as everything is split and resold, and then split and resold again.

    It’s a dirty system.

  • Anonymous

    Well, the final score was 45-10. Obviously, voter fraud was responsible for this beat down because the Broncos had a lot of dead people impersonating defensive players.

  • Anonymous

    LOL Now people want to keep separate religion, politics, and football.  Funny how things change so fast after games like that.  Oh well, I guess I told you so?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Charles-Swann/100003281352784 Charles Swann

    After tonight’s game, I can’t help but think that maybe if Mr. I-have-a hotline-to-Jesus spent a little less time telling women how to make decisions about their own bodies and a little more time practicing the body he wouldn’t get his ass handed to him on the field as frequently as he does.

  • Anonymous

    Sock puppetry? I’m “down”, could I bring my magical underpants?

  • Anonymous

    Sometimes giving to charity is better than PR consultants plus I could claim taxes.

  • Anonymous

    Tebow isn’t being vilified, he’s just being laughed at.

  • Anonymous

    Haha?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Dunigan/1086291866 Andy Dunigan

    So, God hasn’t been kicked out of the schools?

  • Joan Kelly
  • Joan Kelly
  • Joan Kelly

    Cindy,

    The link I sent still didn’t work – ?  I had to put mediuate.com in my browser and then typr rick santorum oreilly in the search space.  The grilling video is about third on that page and worth the view.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1572984371 Cindy Nowicki

    Joan….Here’s the link and quote on Santorum’s response to having a gay son:

    “I’d love him just as much as I did the second before he told me,” - Rick Santorum, on how he would react if one if his sons came out as gay.”

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/2012/01/08/santorum-family-values/

    Salon will do anything in its power to discredit a conservative. Joan Walsh and her staff at Salon are from the far-left fringes of the spectrum.

  • Joan Kelly

    Cindy,

    I don’t think his love of his son in that instance is anymore than humane.  Wouldn’t we all do the same?

    It’s the determination to outlaw contraception that blows my mind.  There are many other issues that disturb me but right now – that’s the biggie.

    Guess you know by now – I’m a liberal.  Hey, I like it like that.  So was Jesus.

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