Comments on: Lieberman On Health Care: “I Don’t Think Anybody Thinks This Bill Will Pass”

By: Jim R

Jim R — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:54:26 +0000

I rushed that last one off before leaving work. They’re not continuing torture, just refusing to indict Yoo & Addington for creating a justification for it out of whole cloth.

Suffice it to say there’s a slew of issues I wish they’d move faster and more aggressively towards resolving and stopping.

By: ImNotBlue

ImNotBlue — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:34:11 +0000

Jim R says:
November 23, 2009 at 4:11 pm

Maybe it’s “change you can” “hope for?” You could mush together the slogans to get something more true to point!

By: Jim R

Jim R — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:11:19 +0000

ImNotBlue,

I’m with you on the spying on Americans, torture, and any number of other issues Bush/Cheney were eviscerated for and Obama continues.

Granted, the excuse is they can only take baby incremental steps, but that’s not “change we can believe in”!

By: ImNotBlue

ImNotBlue — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:54:56 +0000

tjl says:
November 23, 2009 at 1:24 am
Yawn. It’s not about government control. That’s fear-mongering.

Why is it fear-mongering to connect the dots? Was it “fear-mongering” to say that the government was “spying on everyone,” even when that wasn’t the facts… and then not to say anything when “your guys” decided to do the same thing? “Fear-mongering” is the defense, when there is no other defense. Instead of hitting the issue, just say, “You’re fear-mongering,” and then go away. These are real concerns here… a logical look at evidence and facts… and the only way to dismiss it (without actually talking about it), is to try to brand it. It’s not “fear-mongering” to be skeptical about this plan and the government’s goals… find another slogan.

By: Tater Salad

Tater Salad — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:40:17 +0000

The United States Constitution is found in a dumpster behind the White House:

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=UZkvkLmkYVg

By: tjl

tjl — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:24:24 +0000

Yawn. It’s not about government control. That’s fear-mongering. That’s what you’ve been told to say. It’s a baseball game. One team needs to win, one needs to lose. In the end, though, we’re all stuck watching a five hour game of baseball, one team wins, one team losses, and all we get out of it is a sick feeling that we watched five hours worth of baseball and have nothing to show for it.

The “government control” talking points are getting old. May I say this, with all due respect, Republicans used to be tough on foreign affairs (i.e. fighting wars overseas) yet when it comes to national affairs they are a giant woman’s private parts. They are so fearful about everything. It’s quite amusing. Fear Fear Fear Fear Fear! Everything is so scary. Why? What’s wrong with expanding Medicare/Medicaid? You get to keep your guns in both of those health plans! There’s nothing to be afraid of.

By: Fidoohki

Fidoohki — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:17:32 +0000

Not enough goverment control in those ideas…

By: germ

germ — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:19:10 +0000

Jim,

I agree. Why can’t they just expand the current MedicAid system instead of this Trillion $$, 2000 page dog-and-pony show.

By: Jim R

Jim R — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:18:25 +0000

Yes, Senator Lieberman, even allowing 3-4 million access to a “public option” is an absolute no-no in the insurance state; we get it.

If Obama wants to be a hero he should submit a one page bill for consideration, Medicare Part E for everyone that wants it.This HCR monstrosity of corporate insurance capitulation deserves to fail anyway, might as well get some traction from the aftermath.