As I said… a fair point all around. Although, I highly doubt that if Obama didn’t have soldiers behind him, Beck would complain about that… there would be something else, but not that.

As for the coin… no clue, amigo.

Of course in the clip, Beck does seem to try and fault all politicians for using soldiers as props, but it’s been done for quite some time by Presidents from both parties. Much like when a President makes a speech at a National Park, there are usually Park Rangers behind him, or when they address employees of a private company or a union, there’s always representatives behind them.

And again, if Obama hadn’t have followed the tradition and if he had appeared on the dais alone, don’t you think Beck would’ve faulted him for talking down to the troops and making himself the center of attention?

Heck, I didn’t watch the memorial service for those killed at Ft Hood, but apparently there was some kind of ceremony involving a coin, which I’ve seen people complaining about on other websites.

Actually… not a bad counter example. Both are foolish.

(And yes, I know one could make the argument that Bush wasn’t responsible for the banner, and blah-blah-blah… it doesn’t matter… the overall intent was the same.)

Ted says:
November 13, 2009 at 2:14 pm

Thank God there’s a difference between Beck (a television host/entertainer) and an elected President of the United States. I don’t know why you guys seem to forget that.

Magister says:
November 13, 2009 at 3:51 pm

Yeah… methinks not. The call would go more like:
“Hi Mom. Yes, I miss you too. Yes, I went to the speech today. They wanted to put me behind the President, because there weren’t enough Asian guys to make his background look ‘balanced,’ but I told them I’d rather sit in the audience with the rest of my troop. Who said that? Oh, Beck… okay. So how’s everything?”

But to be fair, I’m sure if Bush was President, you’d have no problem with him picking and choosing folks to sit behind him… you know, to make him look good… right?

Nachi says:
November 13, 2009 at 4:08 pm
All soldiers are “props,” Beck.

What the heck does that mean?

m says:
November 13, 2009 at 4:33 pm
The conservative Carrot Top is accusing Obama for using props? That’s how much value Beck put into our troops. He doesn’t see them as individuals or human beings, but simply as fodder for both warfare and his TV show.

Again, there’s STILL a difference between Beck and the President. Write it on your hand if you’re having trouble remembering.

Barack Obama is the damn President. He ought to be able to make a speech to the troops or visit the troops without it being politicized. Some things aren’t partisan in this country, beyond left and right. The President and his duties are.

Where were you 8 years ago? Yeah, this new found, “Not everything is political” line is quite ironic. I remember the past 8 years… I don’t know why you don’t.

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What’s really amazing about this post and thread thus far, is not ONE person from the anti-Beck crew has said why this was a GOOD thing. All attacks on Beck… not support for positioning troops behind the President. What’s the deal… a little defense now and then might do you well. The persistent offense means you don’t know what you’re talking about… only that you support an ideology or a person, but don’t really understand why.

That’s not the point. When you are addressing the troops, they shouldn’t be standing
behind the president! It just seems ..tacky to me. *shrugs*

Which is a problem he inherited from Bush, right?

Barack Obama is the damn President. He ought to be able to make a speech to the troops or visit the troops without it being politicized. Some things aren’t partisan in this country, beyond left and right. The President and his duties are.

“Mom – Sarge chose me and Mike to sit onstage behind the President, but Glenn Beck thinks I’ll be a prop, so I won’t get to be on tv.”

“I know that you haven’t seen me in a long time and that I’m all the way up here in Alaska, but Glenn Beck thinks the President should focus the spotlight entirely on himself and that he shouldn’t even acknowledge the soldiers exist, or something… I’m not exactly sure.”

In other words: “I’m putting my fingers in my ears, and I don’t wanna listen to what you have to say. Na na na na… I’m not listening.”

Jymn says:
November 13, 2009 at 11:34 am

Which is more insulting… to actually use soldiers as props… or to call the President on it?

Magister says:
November 13, 2009 at 11:39 am

I think Beck’s point was they shouldn’t have been in the “we’re friendly to the President” position behind him. That’s where the supporters and fans stand/sit… to show the audience watching on television, “Look at these people, they support the President.” The soldiers shouldn’t have been positioned as such, because that’s not their role. HE was addressing THEM… THEY were not necessarily supporting HIM.

The Obama campaigns most brilliant strategy during the campaign was to use the round stages. This forced every camera shot to show an approving crowd behind him… the power of other people’s presence used to encourage the television audience. A really well executed strategy by Team Obama. But IMO, not appropriate for an occasion like this. Again, this wasn’t a rally, it was a speech… there’s a difference. At least, there’s supposed to be.

Form over substance? Certainly What else would you expect from our President?

In the complete lack of substance that defines his presidency to date, what would he have left were he barred from theatrics?

I understand Beck’s point here… using your average citizen as a prop is one thing (I guess that’s their choice). But to use a soldier as a prop is disrespectful to them, to those who serve, and those who have died in the line of duty. They’re not props… they’re heroes, and don’t deserve to be used like stagecraft.