we know for a fact that paterno covered up the rape of a 10 year old boy

this fact is indisputable

knowing this, how else can we describe this particular mob?

seriously.  

Amazing. Rioting in support of a creep that closed his eyes to a kid being raped in his facility on his watch. I guess we can describe them as idiots at best.

What is saddest is that on a lot of campuses, football tops everything, including crimes.

This is why they had to do it now, before Saturday’s home game against Nebraska.

Can you imagine the shit that would fly had Joe Paterno taken the field on Saturday to a standing ovation by the crowd? Which, by the looks of this riot, would have been a forgone conclusion?

They are in deep enough shit as is…..they didn’t need that to happen.

 Rioting to support a man that in effect shielded a child rapist? Penn State students have some screwed up priorties.

Dumbaloon ans Skeevy, the how can you say that? Joepa did what he was supposed to do. The administration failed. They should be fired but not Joepa. Gimme a break you idiots.

Rioting proves conclusively that jocks are complete idiots, too many beers and concussions to be connected with reality.

One the one hand, he was complicit in the rape of little kids, on the other hand HE WON ALL THOSE SPORT GAMES.

 Where the hell are these kids parents? I have kids and they ared never out of my sight long enough to get butt holded by some scumbag pervert.  However , Joepa undeservedly took the fall for the University. He’s not in charge, it’s the University President’s job to protect the kids. 

I have not read anywhere that he covered up the rape. Stop making crap up.

Really, tell someone else about a horrible crime and then forget about it? Is that how you would handle it?

If you knew about the alleged rape but didn’t anything when the cops were not called, You were guilty of choosing football over the victims. 

Rioting to support due process and not getting fired for doing what your instructed to do when in formed of potential civil (and criminal) allegations, that is, telling your boss.

you’re*

He failed, he failed, he failed. He admitted he failed! What part of doing the right thing do you not understand?

Paterno didn’t go directly to the police did he?  All that witnessed it or did not go to authorities covered it up in my eyes.. Sure Paterno is not “legally” responsible because he technically went to his superior(the athletic director) but he should have went to the police..  

the guy still employed the pedophile is that not enough?

This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that liberal higher education teaches kids to molest children and excuse those who molest children. Typical liberal learning center. 

As I understand it, he reported what he had been told by an eyewitness to the event which involved Sandusky (the asst. coach) and a ten year old boy.  Graham Spanier did nothing when Mr Paterno informed him of the incident.  Sadly, Joe Paterno followed his bosses pathetic lead and never pursued the matter further, despite the horrific nature of the act.  He could have reported it to the police.  Mr Sandusky is a serial- rapist (allegedly).  Paterno might have spared another childs this fate if he’d only spoke up.

“Everytime a van is flipped, it’s like the children are violated all over again” – dubious media memes.

*informed

That’s false.

And Obama and his socialist cronies want me to subsidize these turds and their turd education?

I haven’t read a whole lot about this case. What I have heard is that an incident was brought to Paterno’s attention and that he brought it up to his superior. There are still some things I would like answered before I join the pile on of Paterno, as I have seen too many incidents where people are put into the position of fall guy. Who was the person that made the allegation to Paterno? Was there reason to suspect this persons account of events, despite Paterno bringing it to the attention of his superiors? Basically, did Joe Paterno believe his assistant was engaging in such conduct? Did Paterno have reason to believe that his superiors would not do the right thing, and try to sweep the allegations under the rug?

Lots of people are saying Paterno should have called the police himself. This is a point he acknowledges in hindsight. However, if this is a case of someone mistakenly trusting in the system put in place, to conduct a proper investigation, and contact the appropriate authorities, then I do not agree with the attempts to paint him as complicit and a bad person. That’s a harsh thing for me to accuse someone of being complicit in before I have a better picture of the situation. Paterno has a respectable reputation beyond the football field. Even in the midst of this, his statements have been to urge supporters to think about the potential victims, and to respect university property. I’m sorry, but this just isn’t gelling with the type of self-serving individual who would ignore the raping of children for the benefit of his football program. It’s not as if he just ignored the accusation, even if he did put his faith in the wrong system. There are parents, family members, etc., who do anything to tell themselves their children are not being abused. Not only do they not report it, some of them flat out deny it, even years later when brought up by the victim. Paterno didn’t do that, but he’s being vilified like few are. I hope most of you commenting on this are a lot more filled in on the details than I am. As for me, I’ll withhold my verdict a bit longer, and for the record, I don’t like college football.  

It’s not false, it is fact. Paterno participated in a cover-up.

Sports fans can be so f–ing stupid.

Paterno’s assistant related  witnessing anaal intercourse witha 10 year old boy. Paterno as the head, should have made sure that the witness report the CRIME to the police! I’m shocked that this is not self evident, obvious!!!!!

yo moron are you trying to blame the parents on this?
do you keep your children on a leash?

EVERYONE IN THIS SAD F/ED UP CASE SHOULD BE LOCKED UP
not just lose their jobs
sandusky has been doing these things since 1998!
WTF

and what kind of moron athletes come out of these universities
a 28 year old sees sandusky raping a boy and doesnt report it to the cops OR EVEN STOP THE RAPE

When it comes to football at Penn State there was no higher authority than Joe Paterno including the Athletic Director and the president of the university.  The fact that this crime took place in HIS locker room made it his responsibility morally if not legally to follow up and make sure the perpetrator faced the law. Just telling your boss and washing your hands of the incident and moving forward as if nothing happened is unacceptable and morally reprehensible.

Sex with children is violence. Anyone who allows it to happen is equally guilty. The 23 page Grand Jury Indictment on Sandusky (PDF file). http://www.freep.com/assets/freep/pdf/C4181508116.PDF

This is one of those situations and stories that transcend Liberal/Conservative, Democrat/Republican and fu*k you, you lowlife piece of shit for trying to make it about that!!!

So then to you it’s just not real. 

This may help you with that reality thing.

In 2002, former Penn State QB Mike McQueary (sorry, that’s his name), then 28, was serving as a “graduate assistant” at PSU. On a Friday night in March, he entered the locker room area at the PSU athletic complex and heard repeated soft slapping noises coming from the shower area. He looked in an saw that former senior assistant coach and defensive coordinator Alex Sandusky, naked, had a naked young boy, maybe 10 years old, pinned up against the wall of the shower in his front, while Sandusky was repeated entering the boy’s anus with his penis from the rear – thus, the repeated soft slapping noises.

McQueary did not intervene or even say anything, though it looked to him that both Sandusky and the boy looked up at him. Instead, he left the area and telephoned his father, who after hearing him say what he saw, told Mike to go see Coach Paterno and tell him what he saw. McQueary first phoned Paterno then went to see Paterno at his house, and told Paterno all that he had seen. In front of McQueary, Paterno telephoned PSU Athletic Director Tim Curley and related a somewhat different version of what McQueary had just told him, that Mike had seen Sandusky  “fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy”.

10 days later McQueary was called into meeting at the PSU athletic complex office area with Curley and Senior VP for Finance of PSU Gary Schultz. There the incident that McQueary witnessed was again discussed and McQueary was told that Sandusky’s keys to the complex had been taken back.

Sandusky has been indicted on some 40 counts of sexual assault on under age boys between 1995 and 2004. Sandusky was employed as an assistant coach to Paterno at PSU from decades before 1995 and into May 1999, when Paterno informed Sandusky that he no longer planned to have Sandusky succeed him as head coach at PSU and Sandusky then forthwith retired.

Curley and Schultz have been indicted by the same Grand Jury as heard the evidence about Sandusky, each for lying to the Grand Jury.

No one has been charged criminally with covering up Sandusky’s continued molestation of young boys for all those years (His involvement with young boys goes back to at least 1977, although it’s not clear from the Indictment when it was he started with his criminal abuse. The earliest count in time goes back to 1994.). But these are the people who could be charged, and in my view should be: Curley, Schultz, Paterno, PSU president Graham Spanier, and McQueary.

Each and every one of those grown up men knew as a fact that one of them was claiming to have witnessed Sandusky raping a 10 year old boy on PSU property. Not one of them went to the police authorities about that. No one of the others every urged or counselled McQueary to do that, quite apart from the fact that McQueary, at 28, was quite old enough to know he should have. All 4 of the others knew McQueary did not report what he saw to the police, and each condoned and encouraged him in refraining to do so.

Regardless of whether there is enough evidence to prosecute those 5 grown men for criminal conspiracy or other criminal acts in covering up what McQueary reported to them as having seen, in my book that is a cover-up.

I can understand that people who have not yet read the Indictment do not yet know about what’s in it, and what the story is that’s told in it. Obviously, even that is not the whole story, but quite apart from what legal excuse each of these 5 grown up men might have “in law”, Paterno in particular has a lot more to answer for, in particular what it was that he knew in May 1999 that led him to tell Sandusky he would not be made head coach and why he understood Sandusky immediately retired at that point. 

Presumption of innocence before the law is a legal concept, and an important one. But for me it has no meaning in relation to the question of whether Joe Paterno is scum. Based on the allegations in the Indictment alone, and the application of normal human sense, to me Joe Paterno is presumptively scum unless and until he explains his inaction and his involvement in cover-up fully and to my satisfaction.

Of course, you may disagree. But this is not ‘made up crap’; this is from the Indictment handed down by the Grand Jury. And now you have read something about it. You are, of course, not just free but encouraged to read more or as much as you want on the matter at the various websites. One I would recommend is Lawyers Guns & Money, which has a number of quite focused posts on this situation.

Lulu, fu*k you and Redleaf!!!

I think we should grant them the possibility that many or even most just didn’t know. Not everyone goes to the trouble of checking things out.

You have to be careful about damning all of Penn State because of this. Penn State has many fine faculties and hundreds of wonderful professional staff, some of them world class academics, and I would think not even a majority of PSU students give a fig for football.

Well, you’re just wrong. It is EVERY citizen’s duty to report such an awful crime, and Paterno of anyone knew all about the great esteem in which he was held and his power in these circumstances. Paterno did NOT do what he supposed to do. Instead, he did the opposite. And no, you deserve no break in this.

It’s worse than you think. Some parents DID suspect and in fact contacted the police. The police, it appears, cooperated in the cover up, certainly in the case of at least one victim.

You are truly an exemplary moron. Higher education does not corelate with pedophilia one way or the other. And this was no kid here: this was a grown up mid-aged to past middle-aged football coach.

You really are a pathetic and shallow soul, you know that?

You are another exemplary moron. In every country on this planet, average life-time earnings co-relate highly with level of education. PSU by the way is a STATE college. And by “these turds”, you are not being at all clear who you mean. Perhaps you should consider upgrading your education before you post again.

The problem with your reasoning is, as Cain would say, it’s wrong. We’re not talking about some abstraction here. Joe Paterno and Jerry Sandusky were very close for decades. A person in another situation maybe could claim, hey, I did what I thought was enough to get the complaint to the authorities, but Paterno cannot. The people he worked with here, constantly and directly, people he met with every day, were the ones he discussed this with. It is simply unimaginable that Paterno would somehow not know that the police had NOT been contacted; after all, if they were, then he could expect to hear of it from Sandusky. What you are considering is some fairy tale ideal that does not properly describe the world in which this situation actually happened. This was no stranger to Paterno; this was a guy he was grooming as his successor, for decades. As far as I can see, this is someone Paterno actually knew was abusing young boys, which explains what happened in May 1999.

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Obviously these students have no idea what it means to have a moral compass and the obligations to society that it may sometimes entail.  Considering the size of the coverup and that the trail goes all the way to the front office of the school is it any wonder?

Fact: Figures that hollyweird would support the molesters and covering up from a coach just because it’s in their soles! Kutcher the boy lover!

There is a detailed breakdown of the 5BILLION operating budget of Penn State on their homepage, and  their sources of goverment funding.

10 year old boy gets raped by a homosexual in a shower, Paterno does nothing because he doesn’t want to risk his $1,000,000 annual salary, and these clowns PROTEST?

What have our kids become – welcome to the 21st century.

There was no compassion for the Catholic Priests from Boston… neither for Cardinal Law… neither were there any riots defending the cardinal but calls to bury him alive… are the pedophiles gaining social acceptance momentum?

5…4…3…2…1 Not long until we hear from the left how this 10 year old boy was flirting with the homosexual assistant coach.

Kids!

I read your other post of the indictment and am now more inclined to your side on this issue. 

Stupid know-nothing punk maggot kids. Boston’s Catholic Cardinal Bernard Law was disgraced and essentially exiled for the Boston church sex scandal, and these maggot kids would have been there shrieking, “Yeah! Send him to Hell!”

Joe Pa is Cardinal Law Part II. No difference. No distinction.

Hypocrite maggot kids.

Did you even read the article?

If it had been his grandchild being raped – Paterno would have acted immediately.  If it had been an adult they would have acted because an adult can go to the police after being raped.   The most insidious thing about their failure to report this rape is that it was a  child.

They counted on the helplessness of the child.  They counted on the fact that fear, confusion and shame would silence the child and they exploited that.  Joe was party not to allowing that little 10 year old boy suffer but relying on his helplessness.

They let that boy suffer for what?  A football program?  Their jobs?  What pathetic scumbags.  These men were not leaders, they were not educators they were cowards that let little helpless children get raped so they dont have to be bothered with dealing with the mental illnesss of a staff member.

My real wish is they all get a stay in prison so that the inmates abused as children can sort this out…

First, the countdown thing is played out. Second, your question is disgusting. Homosexuality is not the same as child predation. Grow up.

Joe Paterno, another example of conservative value and principles in action.

Paterno is a rightwinger and is friends with the Bushes. There’s your liberal higher education for you, if you want to play that game.

but Catholic priests didn’t teach people how to throw football, so it didn’t matter to the public at large.

U better watch out… U better not cry… U better not pout… 
The Pedophiles are coming to town…
http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=11517
The US thinks that pornography, what goes on in the bedroom, the dignity of the body has no social consequences… U better wake up and smell da cofee…

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There is a severely moronic sliver of sports fans that base their entire self identity on their sports idols.  This is a good example of people actually rejecting the firing of a guy who didn’t report a kid getting raped in the shower to police because he is a sports hero.  This is why I stay home to watch games.

Actually, he is responsible. In incidents involving the assault or abuse of a minor, those having evidence or suspicion of the assault or abuse must go to the police directly. Passing this up an administrative chain does not absolve the individual. Classroom teachers face this problem from time-to-time. School districts prefer the teachers not contact law enforcement directly, but they are required to do so.

As I understand it, the athletic assistant, a student aged 20, saw the assault in progress and didn’t intervene. How does one not do that?

I simply can’t imagine. At this stage, McQueary should have been acting solely on instinct and impulse and stopped this.

Indeed, at any large university, even a university with a top-notch football program, most of the faculty and most of the students have no involvement with the football program and are not interested in the games.

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No, by law, Paterno was required to go to law enforcement directly. This obligation cannot be outsourced.

The University president was fired as well.

That’s very disturbing, but in a college town, the power structure, including the police, tend to shield the college. I live in Austin. It happens here, too.

Wow! That’s a stretch. Do you see everything as a political issue?

No, it means that they are worshiping an icon which they have been taught and are expected to do. Perhaps, as they move towards the completion of their education, they will begin to truly question our pantheon of demi-gods and the power structure. That is one of the many values of education.

I assume you meant “souls” but your comment is so utterly ignorant I suppose it doesn’t matter.

Our kids have become us. Sad to say.

Puts an interesting light on the old “It takes a village” maxim, doesn’t it?

Really??? REALLY?? You are officially the first person on this site that I will insult.

You my friend are an idiot!

the fact that the government, the churches, the colleges and and other institutions actually OVERLOOK the horrendous actions of those in power is just beyond reason…
how we as a society can still turn our heads to child abuse, abuse of women, the sex trade—-and all for money and power…

this is not a liberal or conservative thing….we should all stand against any person who lays his or her hand on another inappropriately…
there is no excuses….

and especially in cases like this?
a man raping young boys?????? in the bathroom???
all involved should go to prison–just as clergy should, politicians should—ANYONE WHO BEATS, RAPES OR ABUSES ANOTHER –SHOULD BE PUNISHED…
and conservatives should be the first to support this..

but as we have seen they applaud and now they gather in protest for it…
you will never find a liberal protest FOR anyone who had allowed child rape—it will not happen~

amen—-

Your account is done very well, I would add that Curley and  Schultz have also been charged with failure to report a sexual assault. Penn State apparently had a process in place to report to report sexual assaults that fell to Schultz, and Curley within the athletic departments. From a legal stand point Paterno followed his requirement to report the incidents to his superiors and The Attorney General in PA. will not charge  him. This came down to a moral issue and Paterno has failed terribly in not just picking up the phone and calling police.

Agree.

Coach was a class act. Shocked and dissapointed. I know, I played for him.

Innocent until proven guilty asshole.

Michele in Utah?

Tommy, could you download the complete affidavit and what the grand jury received. Thanks.

So 2 arrests and 1 van tipped over is gets a riot headline. Interesting

This is the OWS mentality demonstrated by spoiled miscreants because they can’t get what they want.

played for him or played with him?

LOL

Glad you checked their political affiliation. Good work sport.

That’s one sick DB. Conservative value? What a tool. Trying to make political hay out of a pedophile case.  Only a lemming.

Stay classy kids. yeah turn over a tv news truck – that’ll make them change their mind.

the right decision was made. I encourage everyone to read the grand jury report. Joe Pa was aware that Sandusky was told “do not bring any children on Penn State’s Campus” period. yet the pattern continued and he still did nothing. Page 19 of the report is particularly disturbing.

Not only does Joe Pa need to be fired – they need to absolutely HANG Mike McQueary. His behavior was reprehensible to see a 10 year old being raped and run and call daddy instead of helping the boy. Leave the boy alone in that building while continuing to be RAPED? OH MY GOD!

If Joe told his superiors of the incident,he did his job.He was probably hopeing it would be taken care of ? Should he have followed up ? Did he follow up ? Any way he should have been allowed to retire!! Penn State may never be the same.

Many of the young activists were chanting: “Let us hear Sandusky’s voice! His was not a life-style choice!”

You’ll no doubt be pleased to know that your effort to be the most revolting cretin in cyberspace have met with great success, Nutsofast.

It has to be a loss. That bond between coach and player is so very strong. My best.

To construct a world (college football) or any business within the larger world is fundamental to individualism.

“We are not members of a group–we are inidividuals, inherently seperate and equal from god–not government. Futhermore, people are not capable of seeing or changing the larger world. Just focus on your own, smaller world and don’t worry about what others are doing. It’s really none of your business. You don’t know what’s best for them. Government can’t know what’s best for me–only I know what is best for me.”
We overvalue the individual at the expese of the whole. We think the Nebraska game is more important than the welfare of children. We think some marginal tax increase to pay off debts is less important than spending $250 million on a football stadium in Seattle.

We have lost our way: the individual is now a threat to the nation. The cult of individualism is destroying this nation.

There is no more “We the people…” It’s me, me, me…

Continuing to prove the known axiom that college kids are stupid morons who are easily manipulated. These dumb fucks are rioting because Penn State fired a child rapist protector. Why don’t they make a NAMBLA commercial while they’re at it?

He should’ve gone to the police, that’s his job as a decent person. He was told that his heir apparent was caught fucking a boy in the ass in the showers! Paterno claims that he cares about the kids, apparently he care about his coaches and his reputation more than kids being raped. He’s a disgrace, and Penn State shouldn’t have allowed that reckless coward to leave on his own terms.

No, he wasn’t a class act he was a disgrace.

At least I didn’t get cut from the knee-time team.

LOL

Thanks for the kind words.

 You must of played tight-end and came out as a wide receiver.

LOL

Pardon me. I forgot how well you knew the man and all the facts.
numbskull

The facts have not been revealed but I can see that the powers at be would have wanted to cover this up lest it taint the reputation of the school.  In the end they threw little children to the wolves so that they could keep up appearances.  No thought or consideration for the children who were being raped.  Now there’s a story out that Sandusky was pimping out little boys for sex to rich donors to his youth outreach for disadvantage kids.  Disgusting!

Pedophiles are pedophiles and no not rape according to their sexual identity.  Sandusky raped boys (as far as we know) but it’s not about the sex of the victim that they are attracted to, it’s the control.

Occupy Penn State!!!!!!!!

Nothing but a bunch of liberal indoctrinated punks lost without a clue!

kinda like prog kitty and you fleabaggers cover up rape at fleabagger rallies.  How do we describe such a mob?

While douchebag libs like yourself are covering rape at fleabagger rallies. 

Police should use the videos to apprehend those destroying property.  

Joe Paterno – scumbag accomplice to child sexual assault. This guy need to spend his remaining years in a federal prison cell, followed by eternity in the secial section of hell reserved for his kind.

Horseshit.  Just like you fleabaggers own the rapes and assaults at ows rallies, every MF at Penn owns this.  You scum bags let this shit happen to protect your organization.  It is yours.  Piss on all of you.

If the head coach and his assistant were black and the boys black I bet you anything the student protest would have turned into a lynch mob. 

“and we are not saved…”

You’ve got it. The fact is that this guy Paterno, and his associates, knowingly covered-up the sexual abuse of children on their premises. And, by doing so – facilitated the continuing abuse of other children at the hands of that creep Sandusky. Joe Paterno’s a scumbag, and the people who support him, in light of his confirmed role in all of this, are human garbage – to say the least.

It’s false that “the guy still employed the pedophile”. These allegations surfaced in 2002. Sandusky was gone from the PSU coaching staff in 1999.

Paterno is no better than Sandusky in this – we’re not talking about inaction here, he wasn’t a motorist driving by on a freeway who wasn’t quite certain of what he may have seen taking place by the side of the road. He knew full well what was happening, and rather than risk harm to his own career, he chose to try and cover it all up. As a result, more children were victimized, and Joe Paterno didn’t have a care in the world about it as long as he was personally shielded from getting in any trouble.

They may not be able to charge Paterno right away, but he’ll get his – at his age, there’s no way his circulatory system’s going to withstand the storm of civil suits that are gathering on the horizon. He’ll probably die of a stroke or a heart attack, and I hope he enjoys every agonizing minute of it.

I find it hard to believe for fourteen years the “leaders” in sport news, journalist, hosts, analyst and the like didn’t have a sniff of this guy., or at a water cooler or Christmas party didn’t get a “hey ! did you hear this?” Aren’t they accomplices ?
I’d bet the house a production tech at Ohio State knew the whole story.
Why didn’t the sport media report this guy to the cops or write a story ? I assume it’s the same game politicians play, cover up and shut up for access. Kinda sounds like the CNN president bagging stories for Saddam in turn for access

My one question.  Is Paterno going to lose his huge pension??????

dont use my name u bitch

So said all the Nazis at Nuremburg. (?)

So, Joe was just following orders. 

Give me a break.  As m_mayhem said “When it comes to football at Penn State there was no higher authority than Joe Paterno”

On most issues I agree with you, but on this you are an ass for making this about conservative/liberal.

Are you sure about that?

If so they have some very sick perverted students at PSU.

Just google it and you will find that the most intractable sex offender is one who rapes and molests non familial BOYS.

There are multiple categories of pedophilia and this just happens to be one.

I’m not damning all of Penn State, obviously there are some fine faculties and professional staff. For the students and anybody else that knows the facts surrounding this case and still came out to support Paterno after being fired to the point of rioting, Damn you.

Even Michelle Malkin did not make a political issue out of this. The fact is that people in Institutions develop without knowing it Institutional Group Think, where any problem that embarrasses the Institution produces a reaction to cover it up, circle the wagons, hush everyone, act as if nothing has happened.

Sports Illustrated has a great Opinion Essay, a real sorrow-filled and dignified meditation on the skewed role of sports in the lives of those of us like me, who live and die with our favorite teams. The essay is by a writer I was unfamiliar with, John Ordasik, but I will sure as hell read his work from now on. Do yourself a favor and read this:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/john_ondrasik/11/09/penn.state.sandusky/

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Quincey Jones has done a great deal,  27 seven grammies.  The man knows how to write a great screenplay score too.  Incredible talent.

Any who act as if freedom’s defenses are to be found in suppression and suspicion and fear confess doctrine that is alien to America–Dwight D. Eisenhower

It’s too bad you don’t feel as strongly about the young boys who’ll never be the same.

I applaud the Penn State Board of Trustees for doing the right thing in
firing Paterno and Spanier. Both deserve to be fired and castigated for
their inaction back in 2002 which allowed a monster to continue to run
free to molest and rape many more innocent State College children. That
is unconscionable and unforgivable. Joe Pa has rightfully lost the
respect of millions around the country and his legacy is understandably
severely tainted and tarnished. Actions of Penn State students rioting
in support of a shameful figurehead is appalling.

Murcuhns are nuts.  The whole country is whipped into another irrational frenzy (See Michael Jackson, et al)
over this ugly little story.  As always, everything blown out of proportion in relative importance.  Little People with unimportant, boring, empty lives.  Millions of personally insecure people out there.  Need to examine THEIR sexuality – or lack of same.  No wonder Murcuh floats on the bottom of the gene pool. 

What did Joe Paterno KNOW and when did he KNOW it? What did he do when he found out? If he did NOTHING, then that is HORRIFIC. But if he reported it to the *HIGHER UPS* in the university, isn’t it the HIGHER UPS that take over, not Joe? It is like someone is USING Joe, as their (SCAPEGOAT).

Class acts have a way of hiding thier dark side quite well. The fact you played for a man who knew of, yet did nothing, to stop the sexual abuse (rape) of young boys by not speaking up, means your great coach was not a great human being.
 You’re hero worshipping a man for his coaching ability.  Meaning, you’re basically saying to hell with what happened to the young boys, P’s the greatest coach ever, and they should let him stay because of that.
If you cannot see the fault in that, you’ve got a serious problem.

 Paterno himself has stated he wished he did things differently. I’m sure the young boys who were raped and sexually abused wished that too.

Tell that to the rape victim… try to console their family using that… good luck pal.

The victims of the Boston clergy wanted to take down the whole Catholic Institution, world wide… how come no one is DEMANDING that Penn State be closed or taken over by “the people”… smells like double standards and hypocrisy biased against Catholics.  Where is the Boston Globe, the unending NYTimes articles, all the liberal media?

Two words that discredit your whole rant… “knew of”.

Rex, you are a mean man with a word, as RFK said to Norman Mailer in admiration. This mini essay is better than whatt is available on news sites. well done!!!!

Not to exonerate McQueary, but seeing something like this would be so shocking and devastating–not as shocking in any way as to that poor godforsaken boy!!!–that it might inspire anyone to walk away after saying “Excuse me”. And seeing a Coach he may have admired, and who knows even feared, may have added to his reaction.

Since you write so eloquently and with such insight, I would like to also propose that McQueary calling his own dad was significant. Seeing the Moral Order toppled, he went to a man he knew he could trust. After speaking with his dad, he did the right thing.

These stories always make us males sick, and I hope we think of this feeling next time we hear a woman say she was raped.

Love Quincy Jones.
The dude is one of my favs

merely responding to the posts blaming this on liberal higher learning.

I meant it just for you.  I found your remark flippant.  I have the utmost sympathy for the victims and their families.  What was the point of inserting the word pedophile into an Xmas song?  Why would I tell anything of the sort to the victim when it was meant for a fear- mongering, insensitive, fool?

You’re a foolish person. You refuse to accept the fact your hero could do wrong. Sorry to burst your bubble, but your hero was very wrong.

One of many.  But, considering the way you’re defending good old upstanding citizen, coach paterno, you’ll go out of your way to claim it’s nothing but lies.

http://www.nwherald.com/2011/11/10/penn-st-scandal-about-institutional-cover-up-not-football/a64v31u/

Each one of them had the responsibility to go the police, and he had a moral responsibility to stop the crime on the spot.

yawn,,,,zzzzzzz, yawn….

Do not forget the fact that we have not even hit the intermission yet.  JoePa and Spannier’s firing are not the turning point.  Investigation is ongoing and I fear that there is a HUGE glacier under the water.  So many things don’t add up about how seemingly intelligent, rational, supposedly responsible men handled the matter 12 years ago and as recently as last week when Sandusky was on campus.  A pedophile who founded an organization for less fortunate boys with the support of donors and a football program….yes, it’s hard to imagine how Sandusky would not have been involved in molestation even before 1998.  Why would a veteran and venerated football coach retire at age 55 and not end up head coaching at another program.  There are things going on under the covers and it will come out now that REAL MEN and WOMEN are investigating the matter. 

YGeronimoG, I think that JoePa IS one of the higher ups in terms of power, influence and prestige on Penn State campus.  Certainly nationally he is considered an icon of a squeaky clean football program and that is where the rub is.  HE IS symbol of what is good and right in college sports and yet with something as brutal as raping children he simply did what the employee manual dictated and relayed the info to his superior (which is funny to say in light of the weight and prestige he carries at PSU).

When McQueasy witnessed the child rape, he notified Paterno rather than call the police or the CPS. That was all Pennsylvania law required him to do, yet in most of the states the failure to call the policeor CPS could be a crime.  Pennsylvania protocol of reporting abuse is that staff members of schools, hospitals and other institutions is to notify the person in charge of suspected child abuse. That person, the supervisor, is then legally obliged to report to the authorities.   Although McQueasy may morally guilty he is not legally whereas Paterno who is his supervisor may be legally guilty. 

The democrats also state that the Conservatives are the ones who run on Family values then can I not assume that Democrats have NO family values????

Penn State  motto and culture -  Football is the number one priority even above child rape….Pathetic!!

Hey, it’s not my fault you played for a disgraced coach and a horrible excuse for a human being. Sucks to be you, huh.

You’re such a pathetic, easily manipulated loser that you can’t even do the right thing and call Joe Paterno the disgusting person that he is. Keep sucking at life, you’re on quite the streak! And next time you see a little kid who wants to play football, refer him to Sandusky’s pimping service — I mean “football camp”.

yawn….. you rmember the old sticks and stones story.. zzzzzz….move along, move along 

YAWN…..hmmmm     you remember the old stick and stones saying… yawn   move along, move along

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osXU7hSEmik

ENJOY   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osXU7hSEmik

You buffoon… did you read the article?… 
… if you don’t see the trend on this country towards desensitizing pedophilia you must be not only illiterate and a blind zombie as well… but probably also a GBLT activist… so there you go… reap the fruit of your labor… go beg forgiveness to that poor victim… dont act as indignant and surprised… but what else is new? your kind will always be in denial.

If I were a GBLT activist it would be beside the point.  As for the rest: well your obviously very well-informed, let’s not waste anymore of each others time.

Since 1974 it has been predicted that pedophiles will be next after the GBLT crowd… http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=11517

Only history’s ignorant would act indignant, surprised or scandalized…

The APA and GBLT should BEG forgiveness to the victim and family.. Together with all the Universities and Institutions that have supported the declassification of GBLT from the DSM… the problem is that the US is as ignorant as it gets when it comes to understanding the root of a problem… look at all these zombies almost supporting child rape and the cover-up… when will EVERYONE understand that man in the abundance of money gets corrupted, if there are no limits in sexuality man ends up a pervert, left to himself man self-destructs… but like all addictions, DENIAL is their first pathology, justifying their pathos is the next… and so it is that the single, most important gift from Christianity to humanity = not trust ones feelings and that we need help in order not to get corrupted.

What’s next?  pedophiles fighting for rights, liberties and freedoms… sounds crazy, yet so it sounded 70 years ago that GBLTs would be fighting for rights, liberties and freedoms.