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Obama should resign because he’s a bad bowler? Are you out of your mind?

I seem to recall Bush falling off a Segway, which isn’t easy to do. Did you campaign for HIS resignation?

Okay, that wasn’t a fair comparison to the kegling Obama . . . who was SOBER. Ahem.

You criticize Obama for believing he has done well financially, as if there’s something wrong with him feeling he’s accomplished that goal. Greed is good – whether you like it or not? He should keep on money-grubbing? All of Darth Cheney’s ill-gotten graft will do him scant good when he’s six-feet-under . . . and answering to his Maker for how he obtained all that wealth.

Some people can look beyond the immediate, material world. You, apparently, are not among them.

I wouldn’t be too quick to compare verbal gaffes between Obama and Bush, fella. Obama pales in comparison to his foot-in-mouth-diseased predecessor. A friend had a desk calendar that featured a daily “Bushism” on each page. Well over 300 of them – and it barely encompassed the first two years or so of his presiduncy.

Let’s shove a mic under YOUR big mouth 24/7 and listen to what comes out.

Obama “keeps talking” about corpse-men . . . NOT. You exaggerate due to your desperate need to find something – anything – to hang on him. You have thus joined your equally desperate fellow “neocon men.”

“White words”? Congratulations for working your racism into your jumbled mix. Unlike Bush, Obama WRITES the “white words” that appear on his ‘prompter . . . and not on his hand.

You had to go back years to find an Obama misstatement; Bush makes ‘em in his sleep.

You completely fail to mention the Babbling Bard of Wasilla. I don’t blame you.

Most folks would forgive a Bush or Palin an occasional faux pas. The problem is they KEEP tripping over their own tongues while trying to present an image of infallibility, thus encouraging the ridicule they receive.

Obama seeks to make amends when he errs. The cop in the Gates matter got a personal visit with the prez and seemed pleased at the outcome.

TC: Don’t waste your time on deafstar77, ImNotTrue and some others here. Rationality keeps a wide berth from these guys. If INT doesn’t like the words coming out of your mouth he’s more than happy to put other words in there that he’d much rather hear. Deefstar is so intellectually shallow he equates name-calling with thoughtful discussion – while obliviously telling us what “everybody” knows.

The right’s reliance on intellectual flyweights like Palin and John “Boner” will be their ultimate downfall – unless they manage to destroy the country first, of course.

lonestar77 said:Since you didn’t rebut my point, I’ll assume that you can’t. Everybody knows that the left isn’t interested in a discussion on race. What would you do with your time if you couldn’t go around calling everyone who disagrees with you a racist? That’s all people like you & Olbermann know. Like I said, race-baiting bomb throwers. Your idea of a discussion on race is everyone to the right of Nancy Pelosi saying “I’m a racist and I’d like to donate everything I own to the NAACP”.

You made no point to rebut. All you did was call me names, without anything to support what you’re saying. Provide examples of race-baiting, and explain why they’re race-baiting (and not legitimate points about race), and you’ve got a conversation.

Hah! Good one. Maybe he’s so smart because he was educated in all “57 states”? Here’s hoping that after his term is over he can serve as a “Corpse-man” (twice). Afterall, he’s written a couple books and “I mean, I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money.” Of course, when he says something dumb he can just blame the white words on the teleprompter for “acting stupidly”. If he gets bored, he could always take a course on speaking “Austrian”. Looking forward to next memorial day maybe he’ll say (again), “as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes — and I see many of them in the audience here today — our sense of patriotism is particularly strong.” Those must be the “corpse-men” he keeps talking about. I could go on forever, but you get the point. Maybe, he should just resign already and focus his attention on bowling. I mean, did you seen that spectacle? “It was like Special Olympics, or something.”

Yep, dude’s a real genius. I know, I know, you can’t see he’s an idiot because that would be racist. So, I’ll just say, without a teleprompter that spells it’s words phonetically, he can come across as quite the dumbass.

It’s worse than that. They seem to take every available opportunity to pervert and distort anything and everything this president says or does into something evil, scary, racist, socialist, marxist, communist or even philatelist!

The lefties had no need to distort Dumbya’s words; he conveniently distorted his OWN words.

Our erudite, well-spoken current president presents a challenge to the neocon-nutcase extreme. They have to create ever-bigger and more outrageous lies to counter Obama’s intellect and straightforwardness. As a result, the truth suffers – as do we all, ultimately.

Palin didn’t get ridiculed for making a Twitter goof, she was ridiculed for trying to DENY and DISGUISE her goof.

If I understand the matter correctly, she used the made-up word “refudiate” in a Twitter post. Upon learning of her error, she could have simply called it a typo and sent a corrected version. Instead, she retracted her post in an attempt to conceal her error – which needlessly drew attention to both her effort AND her error. She THEN tried to deflect attention by saying that Shakespeare invented words, too.

Thus was born the Bard of Wasilla.

Palin has no one to blame but herself for the ignominy she now suffers.

“See, this is another example. This kind of comment is not intended to start a conversation, but to end it before it begins, and it is factually bereft.”

Well, if anyone would know about a comment not intended to start a conversation it would be a race-baiting bomb-thrower like yourself. Since you didn’t rebut my point, I’ll assume that you can’t. Everybody knows that the left isn’t interested in a discussion on race. What would you do with your time if you couldn’t go around calling everyone who disagrees with you a racist? That’s all people like you & Olbermann know. Like I said, race-baiting bomb throwers. Your idea of a discussion on race is everyone to the right of Nancy Pelosi saying “I’m a racist and I’d like to donate everything I own to the NAACP”.

Cecelia said:
“It’s much easier to presume bias in someone with whom you disagree, rather than honestly evaluate what they say on the merits.”

Well, frankly, in your links and reference to a “racist criminal justice system” and by your use term “pedigree”, you’ve made some personal assumptions as to the president making ‘delicate’ inferences.

The president didn’t use the term “mongrel” as a reference to socioeconomic ‘class’ or the sort of social status that is influenced by the hardships of public prejudices, but as response to Walters’ challenge that he term himself “biracial” because that is what he indeed is.

This wasn’t a delicate way of referencing historic wrongs or grievances, but rather the fact that this great country IS a great melting pot, where all races and ethnic groups have co-mingled. There is no racial, ethnic, or tribal purity here.

When Whoopie asks the president, “Who are we”, he replies “We are Americans”.

Frankly, you’d well to listen to what the president TRULY said too, Tommy.

Cecelia, I’m glad we agree. I didn’t say his use of the word “mongrel” was a reference to historic wrongs. This was:

He said “that’s actually true for white America as well, but we just know more about it.”

Great stuff!!! II came to this thread with a certain dregree of fear but you case continues to make itself-these people are outraged out the sunrise if Obama comments on how beautiful it is!!!

JUST TOO FUNNY!

CHEERS

MichelleF said:
Tommy, would you feel the same if Beck or Limbaugh said it? No need to answer, we all know you wouldn’t. That’s always the point, the utter hypocrisy of the left. The left gets away with saying things the right would be crucified for!! Macaca anyone!

Michelle, I assume you mean if Beck or Limbaugh had said the same about white people, since that’s the premise of my article? Yes, I would feel exactly the same if they had said this about white Americans. If you can’t understand the insider/outsider argument, try this: go up to a couple at a bar, and call the man whatever pet name you call your own partner, and see what happens.

Rick Sunderland said:
Tommy Christopher: you grew up with working-class white people? How big of you to say that. Thanks for reminding us that the story is really about you

You’re wrong, EVERYTHING is about me. Just ask my editors.

lonestar77 said:
One other thing. You know why there will never be serious discussions on race even though the left continually says there needs to be? The race-baiting bomb-throwers like Tommy Christopher & Keith Olbermann are more interested in calling people racists than honestly talking about race.

See, this is another example. This kind of comment is not intended to start a conversation, but to end it before it begins, and it is factually bereft.

Cecelia said:
“So hats off to Mediaite. The openness of debate and discussions here, name calling and all, reveals people true colors and portrays to the independent seekers of truth just how far off the wall some people are.”

They need to work on their headlines. The headlines invariably put a leftward spin on a story in the way that Tommy Christopher inculcated his own contentions into the president’s words.

Should we say that the Mediaite headlines are Christophered?…

2 things. Most of my headlines end up getting changed by the editors, as this one was, so it was, in fact, de-Christophered.

Second, I didn’t “inculcate” anything. This is clearly a commentary piece, it hasn’t been presented otherwise.

ImNotBlue said:

Bull.

The comment section is open to all, and you (as a commentator) have pretty much free reign to write what you want. If you wanted to put up another story about it, I certainly doubt Colby would have objected.

Furthermore, just as you did here… you could have written something in the comment section. You’ve done it before, as well as virtually all the other writers on this site. If there’s something you want to say, say it… the comments are open to everyone.

I was exercising hyperbole there. But for a story as slight as “refudiate,” no, we didn’t need a second story. I did, in fact, tweet about it, pointing out that it was not a typo at all. The f and p keys are nowhere near each other. She went on to say “refute” when she meant to say “refudiate.”

Personally, I thought it was worth a chuckle, not much more. Ditto her followup “Shakespeare” tweet, which is what I think really gave it legs. Again, I think everyone missed her point deliberately. She wasn’t comparing herself to Shakespeare, she was making a deliberately absurd, self-deprecating jab. I’ve done the same joke myself.

On the other hand, Palin has designed her media strategy so that attention to her Twitter and Facebook accounts is intense. She benefits greatly from this, but not in this case.

And I gave you that one link as an example of many, so when you say “Congrats… you wrote something about Palin a year ago,” that’s an example of the kind of bad faith that keeps writers from wasting their time conversing in this section. If facts don’t matter, and nothing we say is going to matter, why would we bother, especially when we could spend the time writing something we’d get paid for?

Magister said:
@ImNotBlue: Because I feel the President (or anyone) is entitled to describe themselves however they see fit, I’m not going to agree with your original point, but I am going to agree with your third comment.

If the Mediaite writers would become more involved with the comment section, I don’t think it’d so often devolve into what I’ve termed an AOL chat and there would be considerably fewer offensive comments or tit for tat, inane insult slugfests. I think the whole discussion could become elevated and the site considerably more relevant because those of us, you included, who would like to discuss the issues at hand wouldn’t so often feel that they’re wasting their keystrokes on something that would largely go unread.

I couldn’t agree with you more, although there’s little chicken-or-egg going on here. The preponderance of commenters who insult the writers here make a difficult case for them to spend their free time absorbing abuse.

When I was with Politics Daily, I used to spend hours a week conversing with commenters, but the trolls always take over, eventually.

You’ve been consistently productive and tenacious, but I’ve noticed a lot of good commenters staying away because of the decline in civility.

I wrote a column a few months ago suggesting a Twitter-only comments section, with moderation centered on follower/tweet count, as well as the usual. Twitter is very self-policing, since no one wants to destroy a Twitter identity that has lots of followers, but it still allows anonymity.

It works so well at the Koldys Phox Phan Klub.

Obsesssssssssion.

Magister says:
July 30, 2010 at 9:51 pm

Again, I’ll agree that a member of the group can say something that an outsider can’t… but that said, I still think what he said falls under the “unprofessional” header. It just wasn’t the best way he could have said what he wanted to say.

Magister says:
July 30, 2010 at 10:00 pm

PS – @INB: I’ve only identified one potential staff sock puppet, but I’m not sure they’re a writer.

Oh?! Whom? Do tell!

MichelleF said:
Tommy, would you feel the same if Beck or Limbaugh said it? No need to answer, we all know you wouldn’t. That’s always the point, the utter hypocrisy of the left. The left gets away with saying things the right would be crucified for!! Macaca anyone!

ps, stratdude, you are an idiot of the highest order.

some of the things i read on here i can’t believe

paulmdoro said:
The criminal justice system is racist. Despite the fact that minorities use and sell drugs no more than whites, they represent the vast majority of drug arrests.

Need facts not baseless claims.

writer said:
Instead of a dog, wouldn’t a much more appropriate pet for Obama have been a….wait for it…..black panther?

Badda bing! Thank you. I’ll be here all week. Try the veal.

writer–don’t know if you’re still on here but this had me ROTFL, to get all teenager about it. “try the veal.” you’re killing!

Truth in advertising: TRRK is speaking of the site Johnny Dollar’s Place. He’s been banned there until he apologizes for a lie he told, otherwise His Nibs would be opining there now.

He can’t and it just kills him.

For example, I’m southern born. In coming to terms with myself, I’ve had to examine my upbringing, roots and traditions. I’ve also had no problem taking a class in southern culture, but when my mother-in-law cracks wise about my native region, I have sometimes have offense. I’m not Jewish, therefore I’m somewhat limited in what I can say, but I have laughed at the jokes of Jon Stewart, Jackie Mason and the “Rhoda Morganstern” character, so that’s my “wiggle room”.

(There was a post somewhere back in the Mediaite archives that dealt with this same issue — the ability of one who belongs to a group to speak differently than those out — but I can’t find it with a quick search)

Otherwise, though I think better moderation would be quite welcome, when I mentioned better participation, I meant to elevate the discussion and to better flesh out the ideas. I think that if more commenters were to stay near the original subject and if our analysis of the analysis was being heard, there’d be a lot less tolerance for these endless exchanges of memes and insults, which would better the blog.

Get over it. People are going to attack the President no matter who he is. People on the left said Bush was behind 9/11, said he should have been aborted, said he was a victim of fetal alcohol syndrome, made fun of his Texas roots, made fun of his Texas accent, made fun of his cowboy boots. The left has a hatred for all things southern. The left is bigoted towards middle america and the southern states. The left thinks they are better, smarter, etc. The left is the most hateful, bigoted group in this country. Stop whining about “racism”. It’s old, it’s tired and every time people on the left throw it out there, they lose another vote.

No idea what this refers to SPINECRUSHER but…. by all means keep up the hate for millons of your fellow Americans. It must keep you warm at night.

Cecelia said:
“We will dance on your graves, people of all colors and racial backgrounds, we will intermingle and choose who we love based on who they are and not the color of their skin. We will breed freely amongst the races and we will all cherish in our mongrelness. How you like them apples?” What do you mean “we will”? We’ve been doing that in this terrific giant melting pot of a country for some two hundred years, and I like them apples just fine.

I’ve never been convinced we are a melting pot. I think we’re more a rich stew with a thick, binding base. We keep much of the substance of our diverse origins. It is a most satisfying meal.

A HALF-TRUTH IS A WHOLE LIE.
AT FOX, WE NEVER DO ANYTHING HALF WAY.

You would. It works so well at the Koldys Phox Phan Klub. A mere handful of posters saying the most predictable things. Blackthong bleating, moaning an whining about New Hounds. Mindless, teenage girl-like rock star screams and hyrations, but involving the most mundane of Phox personalities. Simulating, indeed.

A HALF-TRUTH IS A WHOLE LIE.
AT FOX, WE NEVER DO ANYTHING HALF WAY.

@ImNotBlue: Because I feel the President (or anyone) is entitled to describe themselves however they see fit, I’m not going to agree with your original point, but I am going to agree with your third comment.

He can describe himself however he wants… but he described a whole group of people. It doesn’t matter that he’s a member (half member) of those people. There are things you say in public, and things you don’t. I’m Jewish, and while may joke with friends about my clipping coupons… I’m not going to start saying that kind of stuff in public, it’s not funny and I’m going to offend more than just myself.

But either way, what was saying, was inartful (unartful?) at the very least. His point could have been made in a less aggressive way, which wouldn’t have offended (or potentially offended) anyone.

As to board moderation… I agree 100%. Although, I sometimes fear that they already do this, but under other S/N, which allows them to be loony like the rest of us. Anyway… things are starting to get really boring around here, wouldn’t you agree? Every day it feels like the same arguments over and over again. Starting to get really tiresome.