He’s a Republican. MSLSD knows what he’s thinking better than he does.

There he goes again.

Ron Paul wanting to have it both ways.

Yes, everything should be cut.

Will he cut it?

Of course not.

ron should have asked why the main thing this clown wanted to ask about the morning after he finishes second in a primary is headstart…

Option #3: You don’t understand them.

Paul says FEMA and most other government services are “unconstitutional”.

But if he’s asked specifically what will he do, he jumps on his high horse and goes into denial mode. He doesn’t want to take responsibility for the damage and suffering his ideas/policies will ultimately cause.

Nobody’s putting words in his mouth. They are evaluating his answers, and his self-professed ideology, and asking legitimate, logical follow up questions.

I understand them completely.

The problem is folks like you — who are either willfully ignorant or ignorantly willful.

There are two types of rightwingers: those with personality disorders, and those who exploit people with personality disorders.

I’m not willing to take Paul’s word that he won’t enact his own draconian ideology.

Their goal is to destroy the messenger, they can’t stand the truth. 

It was an example…you know…of those supposedly unconstitutional programs that Ron Paul lectures us all about.

You should be more concerned about WHY Paul refuses to say if and when he will enact his own draconian ideology.

It’s like he’s a foreign prince who just arrived in America and doesn’t understand why no one is kneeling before him. How dare anyone question him?

Their goal is to work for the banks on wall street that steal our money and spread propaganda lol…way to go Ron!

Ron Paul has been a member of the Republican Party for over 30 years.

He could have left at any time. He could have followed his principles.

Why didn’t he?

Let’s stop pretending he’s some kind of “outsider”.

He’s just another do-nothing pol who collects a huge paycheck from the government and accomplishes nothing.

It may take some time for the message to penetrate the media distortions to reach the older and less involved Americans, one that have only taken their information from traditional media sources but,  people on the street are starting to ask, “who is Ron Paul” and, “why is his support growing if he is, as the media would say, out of touch”? 

When they do look and find the truth of how they have been manipulated they become supporters of the Paul message for life.  This is the real building momentum story of this election.  With so few delegates actually allocated from Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina, this race is far from over!
GO Ron Paul!

As MSNBC’s Meghan McCain might very well have said, “ Like,treat him right. The man totally deserves an emoticon of respect”.

Lol….poor Barry, he is scared of living in a free society where big daddy government doesn’t take care of him. You know if you want a head start program when the federal government is reduced in size, you can always petition your state for one. Wow what a far out idea, huh?

you’ve just described a cult

nice work

Asking tough follow-up questions is not disrespectful.

Outside of his Libertarian cult, he is not royalty.

For gods sake, stop embarrassing yourself.

Actually, I live in Thailand. But I did serve my country in the Army a long time ago.

Last I checked, Ron Paul has been a member of the Republican Party for over 30 years, all the time collecting his huge government check and perks. And what did he accomplish during all that time on the Big Daddy Government dole?

Nothing.

Nothing but developing a cult of hard-line, ego maniacal followers.

Not that re-election is an issue with Paul, but he represents a low-lying district in a hurricane-prone section of the Texas Gulf Coast. FEMA criticism only goes so far.

He explains it very clearly. Nobody wants to stop helping the people. It’s just that the government isn’t smart enough to handle it themselves. They screw up everything they touch and are running us into the ground. The media just wants news and they’re terrified of a guy that will make America less depressing. FEMA is a disaster and full of fraud. The Dept of Education has seen to it that our kids aren’t keeping up with the rest of the world. The EPA imposes regulations that strangle business. Do we need to have programs and regulations? Yes. Do we need them in their current form? Not unless you like the waste and corruption.

Option #3: You don’t understand Ron Paul or what he’s talking about then you resort to name calling.  You lose your argument.

Until your house is swept away or you’re sitting on a rooftop with no boat.

Ron Paul will cry you a river.

Yet, she didn’t say that, did she Big Petty?

No my friend you are unknowingly ignorant. Paul has laid out a plan in writing with the math to cut the departments of HUD/Commerce/Interior/energy/edu and that should jive with all who call themselves conservative. His plan to cut them is through attrition(if ou don’t know what that means I’ll explain it in lamen terms: when someone retires you don’t hire someone to fill their place) and transfer their vital roles to other departments. Example: the department of energey, once it is cut, the nuclear power/waste oversight will be managed by the DoD. And you show your ignorance by your comment. Paul is the only one running who has any morals/integrity. He doesn’t say things to get elected. When what the last time you heard a republican talk about repealing the UNpatriot act and bringing the troops home? NEVER, yet Paul has been saying it for about a decade.

Barry, your Village called.

Obviously you have no clue how the system currently works. Leaving the two party system ensures instant death of your ideas. If you have ideas about how government should work, you have to spread those ideas within the democratic party or the republican party unless you are a multi billionaire. For instance, you apparently like socialized government programs, and I respect that, but people who agree with you use the democratic and republican party to promote their agenda, because a socialist party (which does exist btw) doesn’t stand a chance of being heard. What you should be asking yourself is why there are only two parties with similar ideas, and how we got to this point.

He’s clearly said when he will enact his proposed policies. Day One.

Withdraw all troops and begin closing down bases.
Use the one trillion to be wasted on that to prop up SS and Medicare with some of the other going to pay down the national credit card.

People like you are so deluded by the MSM and addicted to other people’s money handed to you by an all powerful Federal Government that you’ve forgotten that your actually free and need to have a large amount of self responsibility.

You’re either not paying attention on purpose or blinded by your own addiction.  Pick one.

Are you reading from one of Ron Paul’s newsletters?

He didn’t say any of that.

I wish he did. At least then we could debate these horrible, wrong-headed, phony and misleading ideas that he is spreading.

No barry, it is because he has answerd the questions pleny of times. He has laid out a plan, but people are to lazy to go to his website and read it. And if you are that liberal to where you want the govt to run every aspect of your life, there is always the state level. It doesn’t have to be a one size fits all govt.

Uh, you might want to check your fantasy facts.

Ron Paul has refused his congressional pension.  Says it’s immoral.  I think you might want to stop embarrasing yourself and go actually find out what Ron Paul actually stands for.

How so? What you want is for everyone to not have to work for what they have. That’s going to work out great for you when the economy collapses (which it will). You’re conveniently ignoring the 23 trillion in Federal Reserve bailouts that no other candidate will touch and focusing on issues that trigger negative responses from the ignorant masses. If we continue down the path we’re on, the economy will collapse with the help of the Fed. When that happens, who will you whine to about social programs? I’ll be busy taking care of my family and you’d better not come to me for help. You have your chance to set things right in this election. Yet, you choose the same path we’re on.

Uh, you might want to check your fantasy facts.

Ron Paul has
refused his congressional pension.  Says it’s immoral.  I think you
might want to stop embarrasing yourself and go actually find out what
Ron Paul actually stands for.

Uh, you might want to check your fantasy facts.

Ron Paul has
refused his congressional pension.  Says it’s immoral.  I think you
might want to stop embarrasing yourself and go actually find out what
Ron Paul actually stands for.

“unknowingly ignorant”

That doesn’t make sense, genius.

He DID NOT SAY any of that in the interview.

He was too busy getting on his high horse. Anybody that questions him is an idiot with an agenda in his world.

By the way, everything you just said is total BS. So I understand why Ron Paul doesn’t want to say the same thing on national TV when he’s trying to fool people with platitudes.

FEMA is unconstitutional. There is this thing called homeowners insurance. If your home gets hit by a tornadoe/flash flood be sure you have a policy. If you want to live on the coast it is going to be a little more expensive. FEMA is broke, and they do a horrible job and they also create the problem. If FEMA didn’t subsidize insurance at the expence of the tax payers ppl wouldn’t build their houses in a hurrican path or on the side of a cliff in california unless they had the money for the insurance. The bigger the risk the bigger the policy But then again their are people who want what they cannot afford so they have the govt take the money from others to benifit themselves.

The problem with people like you is that you continuously try to divide the American people into left and right without any concern for right and wrong. Wait, I just figured it out. Everyone, we have a celebrity in our midst. Say hello to Rick Santorum everyone. Hi Rick, you can just come out and use your real name now.

If you’re waiting for FEMA to save you from a flood, you’re probably going to die. FEMA doesn’t do that.

But Ron Paul just said he wasn’t going to shut down FEMA.

Stop putting words in HIS MOUTH!!

Get my point?

You are going to vote for him because he says FEMA is unconstitutional. You think that means he’s going to shut it down.

But if that makes me NOT want to vote for him, he tells me that he’s not going to it shut down –stop putting words in his mouth.

SO WHICH IS IT??

it’s a reasonable question for most of us

Hi Rick, how did it go for you last night?

Don’t live in a flood plane ricky.

While the previous questions were about Paul’s second place and going into South Carolina, it was obvious that Helprin asked a question in an attempt the trip up Paul. Why would he ask him about headstart, something that most voters haven’t even heard of. Why didn’t ask him about foreign policy or elminating the 5 agencies which Paul likes to do. This is not the first time Helprin has come out with an off the wall question. But, then again, this the guy who called Obama a Dick on air and was suspended for a month.  

He’s said a million times that the majority of what the federal government is doing belongs in the states or local communities. If you haven’t heard it, you haven’t been paying attention. If you’ve been listening and haven’t understood it, then you have a comprehension problem.

I’m of the opinion that Paul is more than a little bit nuts, but the man is entirely consistent on his positions and has been for decades.

I don’t care if I lose your little parlor game.

Go tell your friends how you bested my  legit arguments because I insulted you.

That is just a platitude.

Obviously platitudes is all it takes for people like you to vote for a politician.

What else is he going to do? Lashing out is all he has left.

 Ahhh yes,,,, the cult of freedom under the ideology of liberty.
Come on over the kool-aid is free.  Good and good for you!!!!
Vive la Liberty!
Cult??? Hard message to ignore though, would you not admit?
Nobody said this couldn’t be fun!

When I was a kid they used to teach civics in the public schools so even the least informed Americans would have some understanding of their rights and responsibilities in our then freer society.  Today, I hear highly educated college grads with poor concepts of the fundamental truths our society was to be based on. These same people seem not to understand the inherent danger of cedeing their rights to the government. Oh how history repeats. 

Don’t know why Paul has a problem with people putting words in his mouth now, he had no problem allowing people to write all kinds of stupid things that he claims not to believe in the 90′s using his name. :D

*blindfully ignorant BTW willfully ignorant makes just as much sense as unknowingly ignorant.

They’ll rescue you ricky and put you in one of their special FEMA camps. Then you can be taken care of just the way you like it.

Yes it does, Barry. You don’t know how ignorant you are. Now prove it again.

Rick Santorum is a monster.

Nice try. I’m a Centrist.

Ron Paul says FEMA, and Head Start, and most other programs are UNCONSTITUTIONAL. That buzz word makes people like you want to VOTE FOR HIM…because…because…you think that means he is going to shut down those programs.

But when people like me ask him if and when he’s going to shut down those programs—he tells me to shut up and stop putting words in his mouth.

If you can’t see that point, then you are either being willfully ignorant or ignorantly willful.

Ricky Santorum, tell the truth. You’re not in Thailand, you’re on your way to South Carolina.

No, not Day One for the majority of it. He understands that the President only runs one branch of government. Santorum had an excellent line on Paul:  “Everything conservatives like about Ron Paul, he can’t accomplish.
Everything they are worried about him, he can do on day one.”

He’s not a liberal, he’s just a troll from one of the other candidates. They’re everywhere these days trying to make an impact. You see how well it’s working.

Barry Dolton is trollin because he is scared that “his excellencey” will be dethroned in november and he wants liberal romney to run against his master of deception(he isn’t to bright so I will give him a hint as to who I’m talking about: OhBombYa.)

Ah, so how the Executive and Legislative branches interact is also on the list of things you don’t understand. Good to know, Barry. Good to know.

Ignore the troll and he’ll go away.

He may recieve a big check, but voted no every time in raising congressional pay, doesn’t participate in the congressional heathcare/pension/junkets and he returns over $100k of his congressional allowance every year to the treasury to pay down the debt. Also plans to take a $360k pay cut if POTUS. You must be getting paid a lot to troll these sights.

He has left the GOP. Our list of things you don’t know is growing pretty quickly, Barry.

I agree that federal programs are inefficient and prone to political corruption, but I don’t buy the argument that they are unconstitutional. 

You’re not a centrist. If you were, you’d have something reasonable to say and you might even make sense. No, you’re a troll from the Rick Santorum gang. Oh, and a dullard without secondary issues that matter.

I see your point.  He is just being a politician.  Obama has done this very thing throughout his presidency.  I share your reservations about Paul, though.  Let’s see some details.

Of course not.  Meghan McCain never has a kind word for a Republican unless said Republican is on their knees praising Obama.  Ms. McCain is like a little puppy blindly performing for her masters, doing and saying what she thinks (which is a stretch) they want to hear.

Very good point, he wants to save social programs for Americans while taking away the lives of human beings in foreign lands. What a great guy.

FEMA camps…and down the rabbit hole we go!!!
Weeeeeeeee!

What We Do
Advising on building codes and flood plain management…teaching people how to get through a disaster…helping equip local and state emergency preparedness…coordinating the federal response to a disaster…making disaster assistance available to states, communities, businesses and individuals…training emergency managers…supporting the nation’s fire service…administering the national flood and crime insurance programs…the range of FEMA’s activities is broad indeed and spans the life cycle of disasters.
The disaster life cycle describes the process through which emergency managers prepare for emergencies and disasters, respond to them when they occur, help people and institutions recover from them, mitigate their effects, reduce the risk of loss, and preventdisasters such as fires from occurring.
And at every stage of this cycle you see FEMA — the federal agency charged with building and supporting the nation’s emergency management system.

http://www.fema.gov/about/what.shtm 

Paul doesn’t want to cut any programs besides the five in his plan. You are just spreading dis information because you are not looking at the whole picture. People like you try to fear monger like the sky will fall without them. But if you want them that badly don’t trip they will be there for scores to come. And when they are phased out, maybey you can petition your state legislator to open those departments in your own state. END OF STORY.

I just went to his website. There is no plan for Education. In fact, this message appears at the bottom:

Note: This summary of Ron Paul’s position has been determined to be incomplete! Contact us to join RonPaul.com as a voluntary editor. Help us set the record straight and keep this page up-to-date.

There’s real plan for FEMA or HUD either. Am I missing something, or are you making stuff up?

spoken like a heartless jerk … ok i’ll load up my leer jet move to beverly…hills that is

HEY Columbo he has said it in debates/countless interviews. Is he supposed to pretend like they don’t know what his plan is? Why don’t they ever ask Romney about his 59 point plan and how he is going to cut $500 billion out of medicade/medicare? Because they are to busy thinkin of gotchya questions for others.

You’re interesting to me. Kind of like observing a new form of life. But after some observation, I’ve determined that you like the status quo. Which means you want to kill everyone in the middle east while we continue to run programs that support Americans for free. See, you are Rick Santorum (the frothy mixture). You’re a great humanitarian.

I whipped myself 30 times for every time I thought about making sweet love to you

Check your facts Barry. You might be pleasantly surprised to hear the Paul has rejected the very privileges you describe.  The man is a statesman.

“What you want is for everyone to not have to work for what they have.”
No one said that except for you. Why do you insists on putting words in other people’s mouths?

But when he has a national platform to explain those positions in an upfront and honest way…he does the Texas Two Step

I guess he knows his drones will do his arguing for him.

We can have a legit argument about if we should or should not shut down various government programs.

But to hide behind “he’s explained it before” or “you just can’t comprehend his greatness” doesn’t work for most of us.

Good point. Talkin to a troll is like the fed bailouts: Feedin fire to the flames.

first reasonable statement I’ve heard on this thread so far

shut up douche

Indeed, in both Katrina and Rita, the Federales did very little. In the immediate aftermath, when people were so desperately in need of assistance, both the Federales and the Red Cross were impotent. Some of the best assistance came from the Salvation Army, Catholic Charities, the Arkansas Southern Baptist Convention and other entities and organizations, particularly in Arkansas, Tennessee and Texas. There are actually clips of FEMA and federal vehicles being held back waiting for water to recede whilst beat up SBC buses were driving down flooded streets and workers and volunteers for the SA and CC were slogging through streets with water. There were also organization and individuals coordinating emergency relief efforts in private boats. That’s a wondrous thing, a good and positive thing. A Dunkirk sort of moment. Had we simultaneously had the intensity and motivation of a well-functioning federal government and well-functioning state and local governments in Louisiana and Mississippi, much suffering and loss would have been averted.

I am going to give some kudos to Tollbooth and state and local government and agencies in Texas. To be sure, Tollbooth is a dreadful, dreadful governor and Texas government can be every bit as dreadful, but all functioned remarkably well, far better than the Federales in direct assistance to evacuees.

The Federales utterly failed, but there were many, many bright spots.

Bob010 – strike 1

Pablo – strike 2

try again?

That would be a flood plain, and the choices and decisions are often not as clear cut as you imply.

Bob010

when and if the sky falls, don’t call FEMA

Ron Paul is shutting it down.

Wait, no, Ron Paul says it’s unconstitutional but he’s not shutting it down…

wait…oh never mind, you guys are BEYOND REASON!!!

You ought to consider that without DOE and some very dedicated professionals, the American education system would likely be even worse than it is now. Americans simply don’t invest in education, and the results are predictable.

I need specific examples, detailed, of EPA regulations which have strangled business.

Ben and Bob10….

you guys done patting each other on the back?

The beautiful thing is that the Leftist media is getting bludgeoned and called out for their bias. They might as well not even hide from it.

Totally agree with David and you Barry.  Actually, Barry you’ve been square on with all your comments!

Yes, he is nuts. Yes, he is consistent. But, he seems to be situational in almost every aspect of his political life. Perhaps, he has to be. His ideas have little traction and not likely to get any. Paul would likely be the first to admit that this is his last hurrah, and that it is a muted one. No one else seems poised to pick up the cause. Certainly, Ayn Rand Paul is much more at the core of the Republican party than his dad is.

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family and other reasons, I do not believe in the idea of “fall in love
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Ben Doverheeritcomes:

I support Ron Paul’s foreign policy in principle…not sure how clearly i can state that…as you seem to be continuing your homoerotic mating ritual.

It’s Ron Paul’s domestic agenda that will take our country back 200 years.

He wants to allow private businesses to deny services based on color or religion.

He wants to eliminate all safety net programs.

Homeowners’ insurance does not have flood (rising water, the typical flooding condition) coverage. One has to acquire separate flood insurance which is wholly underwritten by the government. Do we get rid of that as well? So, in other words, no one can live along the Rio Grande Valley, Corpus Christi, Houston-Galveston, Beaumont-Port Arthur, Lake Charles, New Orleans, Gulfport-Biloxi, Mobile, the Florida Panhandle, Tampa, the Keys, Miami, Palm Beach, Jacksonville, the Georgia Coast, Myrtle Beach, Charleston, the Outer Banks, Norfolk, Virginia Beach, DC, the remainder of the Atlantic Seaboard? Have you thought this out?

I’m afraid Barry is making very cogent points. I’m not so sure you are.

RonPaul.com is a fan site. The official campaign site is RonPaul2012.com. Is that too hard for you to figure out?

Ouch. The truth is often painful.

“Is he supposed to pretend like they don’t know what his plan is?”

Hey, Serpicho.

You do understand what a “campaign” is don’t you? That’s that thingy where you tell people about your ideas, you know, people who don’t know your ideas yet.

Riddle me this: If everyone already understands Ron’s positions, why is he appearing on TV?

If you’re bitten by a Ron Paul supporter if you don’t become one, you do become a carrier.

pulled that one out of your nether regions did you, Pablo?

How long have you had that “zinger” holstered?

Where do Ron Paul supporters have their meetups? A house of mirrors.

Yep, I have so much gubment money handed to me, I don’t know where to put it all.

I guess we’ve just stopped all pretense of having a reasonable discussion right?

I wonder if I stacked all my gubment money next to all Ron Paul’s gubment money…which stack would be HIGHER?

hmmmmm

You know if Ron Paul doesn’t get the nomination he should run as a third party candidate.

Some claim Ron Paul supporters spam online polls, the truth is they just all have the same I.P. address because… Hey! LOOK kittens!

If everybody already knows his plan, Bob, why is appearing on TV, Bob?

Why’s he’ campaigning, Bob? Why’s he participating in interviews at all, Bob?

Why isn’t he having a beer over at your house, Bob? Why isn’t he working, bob? Why is he on the gubment dole, Bob?

Why doesn’t he just walk around handing out brochures, Bob? And telling people to go read his website, Bob?

His ideas and his positions are all so perfect and clear, Bob. Why isn’t he getting 100 percent of the Republican vote then Bob?

When are you going to start using your noggin, bob?

God help (Or whatever deity you need in your life.) those poor children.

God help (Or whatever deity you need in your life.) those poor children.

Why does Ron Paul support the Constitution?
He remembers when it was signed.

“He’s not a liberal.”

Was that so hard, Ben?

Acknowledging a fact?

Now, maybe we can start to have a conversation.

(full disclosure…on some issues I am indeed liberal, on most I am Center-left, on a few I am Center Right, so all in all I consider myself a Centrist.)

That’s too funny, if true.

Thanks guyoxim.

Ron Paul began thinking about the problems in America. First, he thought about our involvement in foreign wars and the loss of American lives overseas, and he cried a tear. Then, he thought about our loss of liberties at home, and he cried another tear. That’s why he’s called a second-tear candidate

What did they say?

You can’t even finish a joke by yourself?

Take a breath, go tweet Andrew Breitbart or Sean Hannity and ask him to give you a good one to zing at me.

“you have to spread those ideas”

That’s funny because all the other Ron Paul drones in this thread have been telling me that everybody already knows and understands ALL of Ron Paul’s positions and idea.

That’s why he won’t answer follow up questions about them.

Make up your collective minds.

Why didn’t Ron Paul ever go to work while he was a Congressman?
He only read the first sentence in the Bill of Rights, “Congress shall pass no law.” That being the case, he went home

“He has left the GOP.”
Another provably false statement by “the Pablo

Very good point?

I’d say EXCELLENT point.

We’re talking true genius.

If Ron Paul knew how badly he was being served by you numbskulls, he’d turn over in his grave.

I’ve served my country. Have you? My brother just left Iraq after two years. I was opposed to the second Iraq invasion from the very beginning.

But you don’t care about facts, do you?

your response is a Ron Paul-esque non sequitur

if only we mere mortals could understand Ron Paul’s greatness.

It’s all so paper thin and full of arrogant platitudes.

Let me guess, we need to understand contracts, too? And the business cycle…?

12 Voltman 1 asks:

Where do Ron Paul supporters have their meetups? A house of mirrors.

HRH responds:

Good question. We know Chris Christie supporters have their meetups at a House of Pancakes. Why won’t Paul supporters tell us where they meet?

You Republicans are certainly given to dog analogies for women. I’m not sure that is a positive thing.

Not a Meghan McCain fan…but your attempted character assassination is just a bald-faced lie.

McCain “thinks” for herself. Whether you agree with her or not, you should applaud that she is willing to go off the Fox script.

She does not support Obama. She supports what she considers moderate Republicans, because she believes (rightly) that the extreme hard-right is destroying the Republican Party.

She has the luxury of being quite wealthy, so there is absolutely no motivation for her to “blindly” perform for “her masters.”

That said, I personally find her political analysis quite shallow.

I’m right here, under the sheets with you, Big Ben!

Is it 12 oclock or are you just happy to see me?

Voted “no” but kept on cashing them checks, didn’t he?

He was so outraged, he ran for office 20 more times.

And never accomplished ANYTHING!

Well when you put corporate cronies with no experience into government positions to gut and undermine, and underfund operations as such Bush did with FEMA… of course you are going to get the perception that government isn’t working:  http://www.truth-out.org/part-three-fema-during-bush-years-2001-2004/1312556826

Of course, under Obama, FEMA has been praised for its response and operations:  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/28/republicans-praise-fema-c_n_271203.html

Ironically, where you said, “our kids aren’t keeping up with the rest of the world” these other countries who are out performing the U.S. put a high premium of investing in public education.
 

More non facts by the drones. Thanks for nothing.

The man is a grifter.

How about those $170,000 yearly paychecks (plus staff, travel and expenses) for doing absolutely nothing?

But all states must abide by the Federal U.S. Constitution.  And that is where the debate is… how one interrupts the powers of the Constitution.  

Do we have a constitution or not?

Do we have a constitution or not?

Barry must have thrown away his TV.

Whats wrong Barry, not a Spike Lee fan?

How are the FEMA trailers doing anyway?

Do you have the ability to make a point without phrasing it as a question or not?

Do you have the ability to make a point without phrasing it as a question or not?

I’m just trying to understand…why does “Mark Halprin” exist on air?! This guy adds nothing substantive, and worse embarrasses himself, the guests, and the network with his misguided attempts to cross-examine when he generally, has no idea what he’s talking about. See this, Elizabeth Warren, the airplane bathroom and countless other attempts at fake journalism. It’s like watching an attorney in a courtroom who hasn’t done any of his prep work. MSNBC, please, reconsider this guy. I literally, tune out every time he’s on the air. Clearly he’s like by somebody, give him Survivor or something, but please NO news.

Ron Paul wanted to be a second-tier candidate.

So he thought about our involvement in foreign wars and the indignities suffered by the Iranian people, and he shed a tear.

Then, he thought about all the Americans he would be hurting when he stripped away all social safety nets, he thought about the little girl stranded on the roof top during a natural disaster waiting for someone to come who never did, and he thought about the woman who froze to death because she couldn’t pay her heating bill, and he thought about the people who lost their homes and who couldn’t get affordable health insurance…

but dab, gob it, he couldn’t shed another tear

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He still takes a paycheck and other perks and expenses.

I wonder if you and I stacked all the money we received from the government next to the pile of cash Ron Paul has received from the government, which one would be bigger?

His obvious goal:  create a headline along the lines of “top GOP candidate wants to eliminate Headstart”.  Its part of MSNBC’s transparent  agenda  to assist Obama’s reelection effort with 24/7 propaganda centered on class warfare and racial divide.   Anything and everything has been and increasingly will be reframed into “racist” and “1%er”.  Can’t help but wonder if Halparin and other “journalists” will look back 10-15 years from now and shake their heads at their willingness to be pawns in this game.

He still takes a paycheck and other perks and expenses.

I wonder if you and I stacked all the money we received from the government next to the pile of cash Ron Paul has received from the government, which one would be bigger?

I wonder if you and I stacked all the money you and I have received from the government next to the pile of cash Ron Paul has received from the government, which one would be bigger?

Unelected officials have taken over Washington and are orchestrating the daily news. 99% of the comments and replies you’re reading online come from an NSA software program spamming the internet. Comments are created before the stories are ever reported. The oldest, first, highest, best, and most popular rated comments are all propaganda. They are conducting Psy-ops (psychological operations) for domestic spying. They have 1000′s of handles and are determined to bury the truth and attack anyone leaking it.

The next election is shaping up to be as big of a sham as the last. Do you know why Sarah Palin’s bus tour was really canceled? Do you know why she stayed 30 miles away from the second debate and chose the death of Steve Jobs to announce that she’s not running? Know what leaked out? Sarah Palin and Cain aren’t in the race for the same reason, the truth leaked out.

You can clock out at any time government poster

Because unelected officials who took over the media and are trampling the Constitution in the name of “national security” can’t have someone elected who wants to cut their funding

Hey it’s the government Pablo Barry Dalton show.

It’s like you and Barry are having a real debate here and not taking attention away from the bs story with your off topic comments

Welcome to the Pablo and Barry control the conversation thread. Oh wait, some more government posters have decided to join in with the off topic debate.

Ron Paul cannot be elected because he poses a threat to people who want to own and control everything from Washington, to the media, to making up the laws by misinterpreting the Constitution as they go. Don’t expect democracy to prevail.

Since the word “Tard” is now doubleplusungood, the best way to describe Dr. Paul and his supporters is “Ron-goloids.”

Paul does nothing but play games with the media. He says Head Start is unconstitutional, but claims he won’t cut it.  So the Ron-goloid-in-Chief will violate his oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution?

Because Ron Paul is more of a message candidate, a game-changer set to influence the party, I don’t think he likes to dwell on specifics. It’s more about the general philosophical attitude with him, which is why I think he got mad at the interview’s direction. 

We can’t tell who you’re referring to, since BOTH the interviewee, Dr. Paul, & the questioner of the moment, Mark “Drudge Rules My World” Halprin, are Republicans. 

This flows from the flaw in Ms. Alvarez’ post: it’s not “msnbc” asking these questions which aim to put Dr. Paul in a box into which he’s resisting going (altho only as a matter of priority; Dr. Paul clearly wants to cut Head Start, as either or both “unconstitutional” – which is completely wrong; Dr. Paul does not know the first thing about the legal concept of constitutionality, tho many appear to believe otherwise simply because they like him or like some things he says or because he uses the term “unconstitutional” so routinely there’s a wide general reluctance to confront him with his own ignorance. Instead, it’s a proven determinedly Republican meme-repeating propagandist for an historically right-leaning (often actually jingoistic) weekly magazine, appearing on the one msnbc political news commentary show that most promotes the political agenda of the center-right of the political spectrum, being the hard right of the Dem party & the establishment of the Rep party.  

As regular watchers of Morning Goe know only too well, the show consists almost entirely of what the host, a former Republican House rep, wants to talk about, to the point that if none of the guests says what he wants, he seizes the agenda & yammers on alone, using the host’s bully pulpit in much the same was as Billold does on Fuppet News. And in this agenda, that host is best & most reliably served by Halprin, which is why Halprin is a near-daily regular & gets so much room to say such dickish things. 

The reader who goes by the avatar name Pablo is either ignorant of this (which I doubt is the case), or just being opportunistic in trying to exploit Ms. Alvarez’ mis-take. 

But again: this is Mediaite, a website presumably dedicated to discussing how media (almost entirely the MSM) presents news items. So, leaving aside the flawed reporting of Ms. Alvarez & the opportunism (or, less likely, ignorance) or Pablo, the real newsworthiness in this clip is that the Republican establishment continues to cast Dr. Paul as an extremist, no doubt to improve the appearance of a groundswell appeal for the nomination of Romney. That’s what’s going on here, & the failure of Ms. Alvarez to offer it for comment like that, & instead to choose to present it as something else which it clearly is not, is disappointing, to say the least.

Knock  knock
Who’s there?
Ron
Ron who?
Exactly!

Wow Barry, you are not very smart at all, you probably get all your info from TV and barley now how to read. Lets see here, since the storms in Texas where many homes got damage the majority of people were still waiting for assistance and financial compensation from FEMA, many of them were on the verge of becoming homeless. Then Ron Paul ear marked some money and helped those people get back on their feet. See there is this thing called research it helps you gain knowledge and gives you the ability to comprehend the world around you. I found this info in local Texas newspapers interviewing people about how years after the damage FEMA has still not helped them, yet we are giving FEMA tons of money. We would be better off if we just gave that money to the state and let them create their own emergency response teams, which OMG is one of the solutions Ron Paul supports. So yeah Ron Paul cried a river, a river of money, and gave it to the people who needed help and SAVED THEIR LIVES.

Enough of this bickering!  This country is bankrupt. The MSM seem to be blind to that fact when they harp on issues like Head Start.  If you have no money, you have NO money.
Ron Paul has stated over & over again that his stance is bring the troops home and stop these unaffordable wars fought to maintain the military industrial complex, keep oil lines flowing, & service the United Nations.  Stop the Fed printing worthless money that is deflating the value of the dollar.
He was never listened to until now because this country was too busy reaping the benefits from BIG Government with all these unconstitutional programs.  What ever happened to the concept of people being resonsible for themselves.  (As with FEMA, if you don’t want to be flooded, don’t live in a flood plain.)
Now that these programs are on the line he finally is being heard.
Read Ron Paul’s book….A Foreign Policy of Freedom: Peace, Commerce, and Honest Friendship& you will find he has been warning of our current economic mess for years.It’s time we listened.

Actually Barry, he did say that, I read him saying those things, in the many books he has published. Those wrong misleading ideas are coming from the TV and the MSM whom distort his message, and never give him a chance to clearly outline his opinion. If you would read one of his books Dr. Paul is saying exactly what Ben is. Then again this would mean you would have to shut off the TV and learn things for yourself, that is really hard to do. Reading books and articles to learn things instead of listening to some talking head on the idiot box.

: )

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Yeah. Do you see “rescue” in there anywhere, Barry?

Good for him! He will eat these media whores for breakfast!

Or just read the constitution

Section 8
1:  The Congress shall have Power To lay and
collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and
provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States

He’s not a liberal, he’s a progressive. There’s nothing liberal about them.

Ron Paul’s plan for education: It’s the responsibility of local communities and states. It is not the responsibility of the federal government.

How much have our schools improved since the Department of Education was created? If you were to put a numerical value on it, it would be a negative.

You really are an idiot, Barry. Let’s go ahead and prove that, or should I say: Let me disabuse you of your erroneous notion:
http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?f=0&year=1988

Aren;t you on the Romney bandwagon yet?  Why are you waiting?  You will be there within the next 6 weeks.

Pablo and Ron Paul agitate for States’s Rights and call reactionary politics from 1936 a revolution.

You and Paul are so old-fashioned, you’re new again, Pablo

There’s a differance between a follow up question and repeating a question that was already answered because the response given wouldn’t give you any room to misinterpert and later demagogue the issue to slander a man.

Who ever said Ron is royalty? When will you neo-con shills understand its the message not the man.

Post your facts proving he did.

It can go both ways.

You’re right: he was the lone voice of dissent against big government consistently voting “no.” He was never corrupted by the washington system, and thats his accomplishment. 

Did you go to ronpaul.com or ronpaul2012.com? His plan to restore America can be found here with everything itemized line by line along with spending charts: http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/ron-paul-plan-to-restore-america/
Just to add, people act like the sky will fall with Paul cutting spending, but he is only cutting spending back to 2006 levels. Wasn’t the govt big enough 5 years ago? Doesn’t it feel like the govt is the same today as it was in 2006? To me I cannot tell the difference. But no, I am not making this stuff up and Paul only plans to cut Commerce/EDU/DOE/Interior/HUD not FEMA and not SS or Medicare.

He never said everyone knows it. He said people should go to his website and read… Which apparently you cannot do based on your reply to statements he didn’t make.

There are private companies that provide flood insurance. When the govt gets involved and subsidizes it though prices go up. However, if you want to live there you pay the insurance. If you cannot afford it you should choose somewhere whithin your means.

Barry is bi-curious. Better not vote for Santorum he’d send you to an asylum.

Ahh yes, insult- the sure sign of a lost arguement.

He says it might not be prudent to simply cut people off who have become dependant on the government. He plans to cut five departments (which will not effect those dependant) in order to shore up the balance sheet enough to take care of those who are until we can phase out of the dependant mindset. Pretty humanitarian if you ask me.

For those of you wondering why we support Ron Paul please take a look at this. Youtube the following: Ron Paul 2002 Predictions. After watching this maybe you will understand why we can’t support anyone else.

Ron Paul, please explain how these programs and departments are unconstitutional. The constitution clearly charges the government with the welfare of the people, which is what these programs and many of these departments do. You can’t just cherry pick the parts you like (like many Christians do the bible), or seemingly purposely misinterpret them. What good are the bill of rights or the constitution if you cant care for or don’t care for your poor and disabled? Might as well just destroy the statue of liberty while you’re at it.

Thank you for being the only other person to point this out!

If you cannot afford it, how will you afford moving?

Have you read it?

Option #4: Neither does he.

Turrets?

Go, Ronnie!

The general welfare clause has nothing
to do with the general well being of the citizenry. It was carried
over from the Articles of Confederation and relates to the general
welfare of the Republic-the nation, not the people themselves. It is
about the general stability and functionality of the govt itself, as
the clause states “The General Welfare of the United States”, not
the citizenry. The sentence clearly states that the taxing power is
for the purposes of the common defense and general welfare of the
United States. There is a reason for conjunctions in a sentence.

“If Congress
can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare, and are the
sole and supreme judges of the general welfare, they may take the
care of religion into their own hands; they may appoint teachers in
every State, county and parish and pay them out of their public
treasury; they may take into their own hands the education of
children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union;
they may assume the provision of the poor; they may undertake the
regulation of all roads other than post-roads; in short, every thing,
from the highest object of state legislation down to the most minute
object of police, would be thrown under the power of Congress… Were
the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended
for, it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very
nature of the limited Government established by the people of
America.”

– James
Madison, Letter to Edmund Pendleton, January 21, 1792
James
Madison stated in Federalist #45:

“The
powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal
government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the
State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be
exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace,
negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of
taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved
to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the
ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and
properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and
prosperity of the State.”

In Federalist 41 Hamilton argued that the “general
welfare” clause could not be used to expand the federal government
beyond what was intended.
“It has been urged and echoed,
that the power “to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and
excises, to pay the debts, and provide for the common defense
and general welfare of the United States,” amounts to an unlimited
commission to exercise every power which may be alleged to be
necessary for the common defense or general welfare…But what color
can the objection have, when a specification of the objects
alluded to by these general terms immediately follows, and is not
even separated by a longer pause than a semicolon?…For what purpose
could the enumeration of particular powers be inserted, if these and
all others were meant to be included in the preceding general power?
Nothing is more natural nor common than first to use a general
phrase, and then to explain and qualify it by a recital of
particulars. But the idea of an enumeration of particulars which
neither explain nor qualify the general meaning, and can have no
other effect than to confound and mislead, is an absurdity

It’s fine to want to take care of people but when you forcibly take money from people to achieve your humanitarian goals you end up defeating the purpose.

I’m lost on your statue of liberty comment. It generates enough revenue from tourism to pay for its own maintenance.

Reagan?

Yet, the argument is that if you don’t agree with him you don’t understand him. So if we are too stupid to understand him, he should figure out how to explain it to us idiots. Also, what about the many people who don’t have the Internet? The elderly like my grandmother who doesn’t understand it, or the poor who can’t afford it. They watch tv.

They said they’re all good now that they have Guy.

Mark Halperin is a statist douche.

Thanks Bob,
I appreciate the civil reply.

And FU marksstc

If you don’t agree you don’t agree. Those that disagree always resort to insults though, rather than debating the issues.

I’m sure your mother will get a super brochure in the mail any day now… don’t you love grassroots campaigning?

Ron-goloid-in-Chief? I think you should be tossed into the ball pit along with people who say Rethuglicans.

Anyhoo, what he’s saying is that Head Start is unconstitutional but it’s hardly a priority at this point.

You can purchase through a private company, but ALL flood insurance is subsidized by the federales.

Has anybody told you you’re the worst?

This comment is specifically for Barry Dalton.  Yes, you are now that important, but I’ll tell you why: you’re sitting there, destroying these Paulbots with what you believe are totally sensible arguments, and sadly other people are agreeing with you.  However, I’ve gone through just about all of the comments here, and I’ve caught on that you truly are just trolling and you happen to disguise it rather well.  Therefore, I think someone needs to expose your trolling for what it really is, and as a Ron Paul fan with many reservations, I think I’m in the best position to do so.

I’ll start from the very beginning: you started off by stating, “But if he’s asked specifically what will he do, he jumps on his high
horse and goes into denial mode. He doesn’t want to take responsibility
for the damage and suffering his ideas/policies will ultimately cause.”  Yet, in the interview, he was basically doing exactly that, taking responsibility for the damage he could possibly inflict by cutting off programs like Head Start right away.  So my question for you is, What is your point?  What are you driving at when you make such comments that are completely contradictory to what Dr. Paul is saying?

Are you kidding me? Test scores haven’t improved, drop-out rates have soared, and the cost of education has also soared since Dept of Education was created… seems to me like we’re worse off with it – just like ANY other government program. Meanwhile, private schools get better results with less money.

Barry, you say that “if he’s asked specifically what will he do, he jumps on his high
horse and goes into denial mode. He doesn’t want to take responsibility
for
the damage and suffering his ideas/policies will ultimately cause.” 
Yet, in the interview, he was basically doing exactly that, taking
responsibility for the damage he could possibly inflict by cutting off
programs like Head Start right away.  So who is putting words into whose mouth now?  If he answers the question, why ask it a different way?

ScarredReality, I agree that the constitution calls for the government to take actions in the interest of the welfare of the people.  However, the grand majority of departments and programs that Ron Paul wants to do away with have NOT been benefiting the welfare of the people at all.  In fact, a few of them (e.g. the Federal Reserve, Department of Education, our various acts of intervention all over the globe) have been actively working AGAINST the welfare of our nation.  Therefore, it makes perfect sense to call them “unconstitutional,” since they cannot be considered as part of the welfare clause, and are not proscribed in any other part of the constitution.

no one cares, no one is listening, and people only visit your site once.

Any power not granted to the federal government falls to the discretion of the state. That is what you are not understanding. These powers are not granted to the federal government and, therefore, are unconstitutional. Now if a state wants to implement them – that’s another story and their right to do so.

while Ron Paul has a record of stating he is against government influence, keep in mind he also signed the bill for DOMA, and Don’t ask, Don’t tell. He also sponsored bills seeking to add an amendment to the constitution to define marriage as between one man and one woman. Let us not get into those Racists and Bigoted newsletters his name is on. He is NOT electable to anyone that has done even some BASIC research will find that Ron Paul’s libertarian ideals do not match up to Ron Paul the congressional rep. AND that is a serious problem. Not to mention how extreme his son is! Any guy that raised a guy like Rand Paul clearly has some serious issues. 

In his defense however, I like the answer he gave. He believes a program is unconstitutional, but he realizes that millions are dependent on those programs. His argument is address the reasons why people are dependent on those programs, find ways to make them non dependent, and phase them out. That is a real idea, and proposal. When republicans are constantly screaming to end programs like head start (and lets be real! When Republicans say stuff like this, its really code for “lets screw over some minorities’!) he is at least arguing that there is a clear need for the program in the status qoe. If I had to vote republican, I would in the end still vote Ron Paul, as at least we know we will not get more of the failed reganomics and tax breaks for the rich that are such clear failures. 

Thankfully, I don’t have to vote republican this election….

Ron Paul is a moron. There has never been a big rich country with a small government, ever. For obvious reasons. It is a good idea to have checks on the government but the surest way to make the country a hellhole is to get rid of  all help and support for people under all circumstances and use Gold as your currency. It is a stupid idea.

If you think unconstitutional is just because it isn’t in the constitution, then you need to seriously learn civics.  The constitution is basically a blue print for how the government should be set up and run.  The bill of rights and the amendments there after are a list of what the government CAN’T do.  It doesn’t give us rights or give the government powers, it is meant to curb the ever changing face of governmental abuse.  Therefor, if an amendment was past saying the government cannot provide a a service like FEMA then it would be. 

Go Ron GO!  The good news for non-Ron Paul supporters is that since objective reality is so distasteful you have many other candidates to chose from who will just tell you what you want to hear, praise the USA, praise Jesus then do just what the lobbyist tell them to.  I implore all Romney supporters to invest their retirements with Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs. 

As usual Ron Paul has it right, while having to fight through the media demagoguing the issue(s). Media Protocol is: When all else fails and you can’t critically think, just create worst-case hypotheticals or use the race card.

Help should be voluntary. You cannot be compassionate with other people’s money. When we did have the gold standard, more people moved from the lower class to the middle class than at any time in American History. This all with very little in the way of government “help.”

Voting for Ron Paul solely for his anti-war or lower taxes stance is like supporting Hitler because he built roads in Germany. The man is dangerous … and has a history of racist, homophobic, and antisemitic behavior. http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/top-10-racist-ron-paul-friends-supporters/

When republicans are constantly screaming to end programs like head
start (and lets be real! When Republicans say stuff like this, its
really code for “lets screw over some minorities’!)
——————————-
If minorities are screwed over by anything, it is the government policy of coddling that has destroyed the black family and made generations of blacks dependent on government. They are also screwed over by the costly drug war that Ron Paul wants to end.

Why is Rand Paul an extremist? Because he disagrees with both Hillary Clinton AND Mitt Romney? Because he wants to make real cuts instead of cuts to the rate of government growth? What’s extreme is what’s going on in Washington: a 15+ trillion debt and an unaccountable government. But let’s not change any of that too much or we’ll be called “extremists” by status quo rubes like you.

No, tax breaks “for the rich” have not failed. What is a failure is the idea that we can just tax the rich without it affecting the rest of the economy. The government can only collect 20% of GDP at most regardless of tax structure. We don’t have a revenue problem in this country. We have a spending problem.

Sounds like it’s Ron Paul takes away your ability to trample on everyone’s rights.

Uhh where do you get your facts from? Since when has he said he wants to stop private owners from allowing certain colors or religion? It is people like you who crap on the guy or distort his policies who ruin things for people trying to learn the truth because you just quote garbage from the manipulative media. What he said he wanted is for property owners to allow what THEY want for themselves, NOT what he wants. That is what individual and economic freedom is about. If i wanted to open a business only allow blacks to be customers, then i have that right. If i own private land and run a catholic church or whatever, i have the right to exclude other religions. Of course, no one would do this crap today, we live in different times now, but still, that right and freedom to do so should always exist.

Please get the facts straight before spewing false bs. Jee, the internet has all the info you need, visit his sites and the tons of YT vids out there and learn something for crying out loud.

Nice try, but you are wrong. Comparing Ron Paul to Hitler. Good job. Ron Paul actually supported Israel when they took out nuclear reactors in Iraq even though almost no one in Congress would support them. He also wants to end the war on drugs that disproportionately targets minorities. Wow that’s racist!

The things people are most worried about him cutting are things he would need 60 like-minded senators and 218+ like-minded representatives to achieve. And even then he has clearly said he would work to phase out said spending rather than abruptly gut it, and would of course not interfere with states and localities exercising their right to democratic policy experimentation.

Basically, he’s being asked what he would do as a dictator, but he’s running for president. He has repeatedly said that the things he would take the most immediate and decisive action on are drawing down our military presence around the world, auditing the Federal Reserve, and protecting individual citizens from government surveillance and other infringements on their civil liberties.

I would love to see the media ask other candidates what they do if they had complete, total control over the entire system. I would love even more to know what they would ACTUALLY do with such power. My guess is more of the same we got from the Bush years: senseless war, multiplying of the national debt, and government invasion of our privacy.

Square on must be code for another government handle praising another government handle

You sound like a supporter of the “patriot act.” An act created to cover up crimes committed by the government. 

Clock out government troll and call it a day

What I’m tired of are the Federal Government Whores. These people cannot fathom of a world in which the Feds are not there to hold their hands and save their pathetic butts. The entire frameworld of their reality is based upon a massive Federal Government involved in every facet of human society. So, Ron Paul is re-framing the question, asking us to consider, for a moment, a world in which personal responsibility (not a concept these leeches find comfortable) and community handle most of the concerns of society. Ron Paul would also, compassionately, end the wars, end the overseas spending, and use that money to fund SS and Medicare, until we can find a way to slowly phase out both programs. He would not slash and cut right away. He wouldn’t even end the Fed right away. He’s right to take a measured approach, a transitition to a new way of interpreting government’s role in society.

The “Hitler” fallacy won’t get you far in your argument. Fail.

Take off that tin foil hat so I can read your mind.

Help and support can be provided by the community. If the community has a currency that isn’t debased and isn’t heavily taxed — as is the case now — there will be far more money to fund local, state programs. That’s all he’s saying. Get rid of the Federal size, put the money in the community, the states. You have to consider that all “help” and “support” does not necessarily come from an Orwellian Federal Government, bloated, massive, monolithic. Please reconsider all you’ve been brainwashed with your whole life and think for once.

I think you should go out and volunteer all of your time to Ron.
Good Luck:)

Anderson, you’re really nitpicking Ron Paul’s votes to prove a nonexistent point.  Yes he voted for the Defense of Marriage Act (an act that allows states to decline to recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states), but he also voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment (an amendment to the US Constitution limiting the definition of “marriage” as a union between male and female) in 2004, the same year in which DOMA passed.  You also conveniently leave out the fact that he voted to repeal Don’t Ask Don’t Tell just 2 years ago (making this the only flip-flop I’ve ever seen Dr. Paul make on any issue).  And don’t even get me started on the newsletters that everyone knows he didn’t write, yet still bring up like they actually prove something about his character that somehow doesn’t show up in his 30+ years of Congressional voting and speeches.

Do you like the direction our country is going in?  You think Obama has been doing a good job thus far?  I personally don’t think he’s been doing a BAD job, but we can do better, and I feel that Ron Paul has the right plan for getting there.  However, if any of the other GOP candidates are on the ballot come November, then I won’t be voting Republican either…

Sorry but you already used that one at the national journal 4 minutes before you posted this.

“Kosh94 replied to you
Tin foil hat too tight?”

It’s hard to believe he’s racist since he is one of FEW public figures who has EVER spoken out on the disproportionate amount of Blacks/Hispanics in prison over drug crimes, and those on Death Row. He’s talked extensively how our court system is racist and how drug laws target minorities.

Sorry, I’m not buying it. Maybe there were a few things in those newsletters, but that’s a handful of quotes out of thousands, and it’s evident he did not write them.

The newsletters are the only point you have. I agree that it was just irresponsible to have your name something and not know what’s in it. And normally if a politician feigned ignorance I wouldn’t believe it for a second. But Ron Paul has been around for decades, and nobody can produce a direct quote or soundbite of anything egregiously racist. That makes me at least consider he’s telling the truth.

BUT your dear leader is a blood thirsty, child killing drone?

Good job Dr. Paul :) You need to handle these media questions more aggressively more often.

They wish.

And pull more votes away from the Republican candidate? Nothing but good news for Obama.

You should wear both of them.

LOL!

The message is flawed in too many ways, which is why you see very little increase in new voters for Ron Paul. He’s destined to always be a runner up or 3rd place finisher.

Read article 1 section 8, Dr. Paul is right.  But he is more right when he says that you have to have priorities and not balance the budget on the backs of the elderly and children.  Cut the wars, foreign military bases, corporate welfare and balance the budget in that way.  Then slowly phase out other programs over the next few decades.

Except for Washington DC pays the most per student in the nation, and has deplorable schools.  It has nothing to do with money.

People lived in those areas before FEMA, Paul’s point is that someone living in Nebraska shouldn’t be forced to subsidize someone who wants beachfront property in a hurricane prone area.  You don’t have a sacred right to live on the beach.  If you do, you bare the risks of that.  You shouldn’t make others pay because you want to live in a dangerous area.  This isn’t all that complicated.

Didn’t George Bush go to a private school?

I suggest that you read his books “The Revolution” and “Liberty Defined”.  he is very clear that he doesn’t want to dismantle government over night.  He makes it adamantly clear that he has priorities: cut foreign wars, cut foreign military bases, cut corporate welfare.  Those are his top three areas he wants to cut.  He doesn’t want to balance the budget on the backs of the elderly and children, he makes that clear in his books.

Read the Federalist papers, the general welfare is provided through the powers granted the Congress in that section.

Does helping others and giving children a headstart have to be constitutional or can it just be Christian since we say we are one nation under God?

He should make it clear in his platform.

What were the schools like before the Dept. of Education?If it was left to the states, some kids would never get an education.  This is supposed to be a nation of the people, by the people, and for all of the people.

>> Barry Dalton: “There are two types of rightwingers: those with personality disorders, and those who exploit people with personality disorders.”

Well, in comparison, that’s the nice thing about Progressives. They’re easier to keep track of since there’s only ONE type of Liberal — Snobby, elitist “know it all”, holier-than-thous.

So Ron Paul puts out the most detailed budget of any candidate, showing exactly where he would cut $1 Trillion in the first year, and MSNBC asks him about something he isn’t proposing to cut?

Then commenter Barry Dalton asks whether Paul will cut [insert agency that seems indispensable here].

Barry, why don’t you ask that other Barry in the White House how he would balance the budget? Because it seems like a much more important question to see how he intends to close a $10 Trillion gap over the next decade and prevent national bankruptcy than how candidate Paul would handle FEMA spending which is 0.01% of that. But of course that would expose what Obama would do “if he got his way”. And it’s only fair to make people take extreme positions if they’re Republicans.

Last time I checked Ron Paul is the only candidate that is proposing to end the wars overseas, so how exactly does that fall in line with a dictator who started wars? Do yourself a favor and read a textbook once in a while.

The reason the economy tanked , was because the job creators didn’t create jobs.  They paid themselves million dollar bonuses and slashed workers jobs.  Then they told the workers to go get the jobs they took away.  How come the American people are so stupid, they bought that?

“Than at any time in American history”? The vast majority of American history had the gold standard. Using your logic, when we did have the gold standard, WAY more people died of war than at any other time in American history. 

We’ll work…..Bring back the jobs…..Stop sending them away…..When all the workers in China realize they’ve been had and commit suicide, they won’t be there for you anymore.

The original “child left behind”.

Remember how happy everyone was when Obama won? Like they’ve been saved, and the country is going to be amazing now? LOL They are probably so embarrassed now. All those people should realize they make poor choices, and if they are not for Ron Paul, they should reconsider.

Ron Paul’s history of pandering to racists, homophobes, antisemites and Christian extremists make him an unacceptable candidate for president.
 
The Paultards, when faced with this truth, deny, obfuscate, claim others are just as bad, attack the messenger and otherwise try to distract from the fact that their dear leader is not who he pretends to be.

The cult like devotion and mania of the Paulbots is a clue to the real  danger Ron Paul represents. 

Give us a single example of a country that ever did what you suggest. On the other hand, there are a lot of extremely successful welfare states who have strong paper money. People have stop fantasising about some world where we are all rich waiting for Gold to be dug out of the ground until we invest. Free markets and human rights are a myth.

For anyone who keeps bringing up the Ron Paul “racist” newsletters, go and see how Ben Swann of Fox 19 has largely debunked this myth. The corrupt media of course never reported his exposé. Watch his “Reality Check” segment and then come back and talk about issues of real substance.

http://www.fox19.com/story/16449477/reality-check-the-story-behind-the-ron-paul-newsletters

http://www.fox19.com/story/16458700/reality-check-the-name-of-a-mystery-writer-of-one-of-ron-pauls-racist-newsletters

You’ll have to pardon my ignorance.  I haven’t looked at the Constitution closely in quite a few years.  Are these agencies Paul complains about creatures of the executive or legislative branch? 

 lol. A five point gain nationally in the last poll and that was before he gave one of his best speeches to a national audience after NH. Damn those facts, they always get in the way of the neo-con talking points.

Doesn’t that show that having a gold standard isn’t the detrement to prosperity that many Keynesians think it is?

Ron Paul is running against the media.  They fear “the investigation” he might bring.

So very very wrong. Ron Paul has no such history. When faced with the truth, it is apparent and clear that Ron Paul is the ONLY choice to ensure fiscal sanity for our nation. No one else wants to really cut anything, just the rate of growth. The only danger is continuing the status quo of spending our way into bankruptcy and turning America into a police state. Ron Paul is the only one who will put an end to this.

Nope. We didn’t have long-range jet aircraft before around the same time – does that suggest that getting rid of long-range jet aircraft would not be a detriment to prosperity?

yea bout time we got a decent choice for president. Go Ron!

Isn’t it always

You live in Washington and post propaganda here nonstop 

Put a sock in it full time government troll poster

you can clock out at anytime

quit rigging elections and STFU troll

Ron Paul supporters should be angry with the made up news, polling numbers, and manufactured surges. Unelected officials have taken over Washington and are orchestrating the daily news. 99% of the comments and replies you’re reading online come from an NSA software program spamming the internet. Comments are created before the stories are ever reported. The oldest, first, highest, best, and most popular rated comments are all propaganda. They are conducting Psy-ops (psychological operations) for domestic spying. They have 1000′s of handles and are determined to bury the truth and attack anyone leaking it.

The next election is shaping up to be as big of a sham as the last. Do you know why Sarah Palin’s bus tour was really canceled? Do you know why she stayed 30 miles away from the second debate and chose the death of Steve Jobs to announce that she’s not running? Know what leaked out? Sarah Palin and Cain aren’t in the race for the same reason, the truth leaked out.
 

I think you should quit spreading government anti-Paul propaganda on message boards

Spoken like a government troll

15 posts to your new government handle

Like wise.

 Don’t use the word wise, troll.

LOL. Oh you “progressives” are a silly little bunch.
Do you have anything original to say or does your entire vocabulary consist of only programed auto-responses that come typically with being the organic robot called “progressive”? 

XXX OOO

A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have, including your life.

The EPA has always been corrupt.  Check out ’3 Billion and Counting’, and if that’s not enough for you, look up the ‘Congress created dust bowl’.  Where’s the EPA in helping us against GMO foods in the seed wars?  They are drying all the small farms out probably in order for Monsanto to pick up the land cheap and then turn the water back on.

I live in a hurricane prone area about 5 miles from the ocean and we always get at least 3 or 4 days warning. If it’s a catagory 3 or 4, I make plans to get out of here fast, it’s called common sense. If you decide to ride out a strong hurricane, you are on your own. Don’t expect someone to risk their life to save yours. If you are that stupid, maybe you arn’t worth saving. New Orleans was a manmade disaster caused by poor planning and non action of city and state officals.

Actually ppl in Paul’s district hate FEMA

Until FEMA diverts a river to flood your house you can laugh
FEMA picks winners and looses

If you live in a low lying district move !

Dumb zass

Difference between what you believe and what you would do in a first term

I am not a huge RP honk but he does have some valid points Programs mandated by the federal government to the states without funding for them is unconstitutional. I think he wants the state and local governments to take over these programs and fund and run them as the local population sees fit.

your not going to get your answer here you must go out and talk to business owners of all sizes and types before you can really get a feel for some of the nonsense that people go through to start or expand a business maybe its better in your state but it is kind of nutty here,By the way I am a tree hugger of sorts but we need to find a balence it is not possible for any species to not affect the enviroment  they live in

that was your choice. You can chose to live on a hill top and watch everyone get swept away or you can take your chances and live in a flood plain. O and FEMA doesn’t work. Waste of money, waste of time, waste of resources.

In this case, yes, Ron Paul was questioned about what amounted to a sound bite, he explained it cogently in fair enough detail considering the interview length, then Mark Helperin just repeated the simplistic sound bite. This was not an attempt at informing msnbc viewers; it is just cheap entertainment. Ron Paul was right to get angry about it.

If Ron Paul is peddling something that has no evidence that it will work, his ideas can be taken down on that basis. It is self-destructive to our society for a big media organization to mis-characterize the man just for a ratings sound bite.

that smear alone ain’t gonna plug the leakage from obama base to paul

Actually, Ron Paul voted for the REPEAL of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, and has also repeatedly voted against- not for- proposed “one man, one woman” marriage amendments. He advocates an end to the federal drug war and a mass pardon to nonviolent drug offenders, which would amount to the single greatest emancipation of black people (the shamefully-disproportionate targets of the drug war) since the 1860s.

Ron Paul’s ideals most certainly do match up with his voting record; he is the most consistent congressmen in the business. Indeed, he was against the Iraq war from the start, against the PATRIOT Act from the start, against all bail-outs and “stimulus” packages from the start, has never voted for a tax increase, has opposed every congressional pay raise that has ever been proposed while he was in office, returns hundreds of thousands of dollars to the treasury from his office budget every year, making him one of the incredibly rare government officials who actually do operate within their means, and during his tenure, about two-thirds of the time there has been a sole dissenting vote against an otherwise unanimously-passed bill, Ron Paul has been that sole dissenter. He is a man of principle.

I don’t necessarily agree with everything Ron Paul puts forward, but he’s quite right… the direction of the interview tried to put words in his mouth and clearly did miss his whole point. I can see that despite not fully agreeing with it. 

Let’s not forget, when Republicans were patting themselves on the back for cutting the funding to NPR, it was Ron Paul — surely not a fan of state-sponsored media — who said that the attacks on NPR were ludicrous. 

As he pointed out, those cuts that would only save millions were made into great political fanfare by the GOP. Meanwhile, the billions and billions blown on pointless war went completely ignored. Paul actually chided his party for that hypocrisy.

The US constitution was a means of which to control the federal govt and leave the law making up to the states. Why should I be taxed my hard working pay for an agency ripe with fraud and beurocratic idiocy like FEMA who wastes billions a year subsidizing insurance in high risk areas only to rebuild after well knowingly that the property they subsisized will be ruined? “The act of doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.”<=Crazy. One question, where in the US constitution does it state that the federal govt has the power to levy taxes on my personal income? Where in the US constitution does it state that I shall be forced to pay into failed systems including FEMA? Okay, if the constitution doesn't give the authority, where is the amendment to it allowing the feds to tax me? The IRS is even unconstitutional. There is not even a law that says the feds have the power to take a dime of my income. You want prosperity and security? Well keeping things the way they have been over the past few decades is not going to bring it. You may disagree, but short time will tell.

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am16

You haven’t read the constitution have you?

Did you actually watch the video? His answer was perfectly clear. Technically it’s unconstitutional and shouldn’t exist but you can’t cut it from day one. You need to work your way out with transitional programs. You may not agree with it, but that’s a good answer.

If you’re suggesting he doesn’t talk about FEMA in his district you’re wrong. He says should people choose to live in dangerous areas they should pay the cost. If everybody followed his plan there would be far fewer people at risk today and the cost of these disasters would be much less.

Ok, that was just really stupid. Good luck to you when the dollar is worthless thanks to government money printing and a lack of anything backing it up.

Lol, of course it’s stupid – it’s your argument restated. Doesnt become any less stupid when its about the gold standard. Nothing more amusing than seeing a person with a strong opinion on a subject they know nothing about.

So why can’t Paul answer his own questions.

I’m open to debating which departments and programs should be eliminated or improved.

I don’t think your case against FEMA is very convincing. If a Republican or a Libertarian is running it into the ground, I could see why you would be upset with it. But that is just one example of one program. What about First Start?

All we want is answers from Ron Paul.

Why won’t he give any?

So does God.

Now that you’ve taken the FEMA bait, why don’t you ask your master to be honest and just tell everyone he will shut down FEMA and every other program he considers “unconstitutional”?

He is either lieing to you cranks (because he really has no plans to shut them down) or he’s lieing to the American people. Which is it?

You don’t seem afraid to admit you would shut them all down.

Why is your master being such a coward?

ppl in Paul’s district vote for Ron Paul…sounds like they hate themselves

what did you say?

that doesn’t make sense

Wrong. That’s not what I’m not understanding.

What I’m not understanding is why Paul isn’t saying the exact same thing you just said?

Why doesn’t he just admit he will shut down all programs he has labeled as “unconstitutional” as soon as he possibly can?

I wonder if you give Obama the benefit of so much doubt?

They are asking him what he would DO!

He insists on only saying what he BELIEVES.

You have hit the nail on the head. Thank you.

Welcome to reality.

Actually, you’re talking about unfunded mandates.

That’s a slightly different topic.

And I think stating that he “wants” the state and local governments to run them is putting words in his mouth.

That’s a terrible answer.

NOT day 1 is not an answer at all.

So “day 2″ then?

Don’t be so gullible and/or don’t expect everyone else to be so gullible.

Maybe it’s not a good idea to have a timeline for the withdrawal of troops, but it’s certainly a good idea to have a timeline for shutting down the social safety net, such that it is (it’s already been hobbled pretty bad by Republicans)

Ron Paul is a Republican.

Stop being duplicitous.

Joey Rocco:

Ron Paul has repeatedly stated that parts of the Civil Rights Act are “unconstitutional”.

In particular, he has criticized the part that says the government has no right to tell private businesses they can not discriminate.

He tries to cover his butt by saying it would be “bad business” for them to discriminate, but it is their right.

So, Joey boy, it’s you who needs to get your facts straight.

Nice try Ravikash.

First of all, it’s pretty rich for you to say the MSM “never gives him a chance to clearly outline his opinion” when this whole story and thread is about Ron Paul getting mad that he was being asked to clearly outline his opinion.

Secondly, why didn’t Paul just tell the reporter, “Talk to Ben, or read his post on mediaite. Ben is exactly right. There’s your answer.”

I should read? Ok, how do I get signed up for that Ron Paul newsletter that even Ron Paul doesn’t read?

Anon

you win the parlor game

Anon, i wouldn’t have pegged you as a chicken hawk…what is it about me that turns you weirdos on?

if you KNOW that you are the ONLY vote, then you also know it won’t pass.

pathetic that you fall for such a cheap political trick.

I ask again. If you and I stacked up all the cash we received from the Federal Government next to the stack of cash that Ron Paul has received, which pile do you think would be bigger?

How much Federal cash do you think Ron Paul has received over the past 30 years?

idiot

Nice try, but the dollar has lost over 90% of its value since the
creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913. Oh no, looks like I do know
something about this!!! Quite amusing that you think I don’t know
anything about this though. Get lost. Better luck next time.

LOL! Wow you really dropped some knowledge on me there buddy. Clearly I’m in the presence of the next Friedman.

Hey, don’t actually come up with any proof of anything. That might require knowledge or intelligence. Just keep coming up with asinine analogies and insults. Truly demonstrates you know what you are talking about. Good job.

lol, proof of what? You’ve made one statement and have spent the rest of your time ridiculing that same statement. Not sure what you think I’m supposed to do here – you’re the one who made the claims, I restated your argument substituting another phrase, and you called your argument stupid. I agree.

I guess I could say something like claiming the dollar has “lost its value” inherently assumes that a currency is supposed to be a store of intrinsic value.

Or should I just stay on your level and point out that gold is worth five times more now than it was worth ten years ago? Bit more of a change rate than 90% over a hundred years.

Yes, I agree that gold has gone up in the last ten years. Why is this the case? Because you can’t print more of it. If dollars become less scarce, then they have less value. Gold is scarce, thus it does have value. If the dollar is not backed by gold, then our government is not limited in the amount of money it can print. Thus we have mass inflation and devaluing of the dollar (thank you uncle Ben). And a currency will only have value if it is backed by something who’s value is intrinsic. When it is backed by nothing, we see inflation, economic bubbles and prolonged recessions.

“Yes, I agree that gold has gone up in the last ten years. Why is this the case? Because you can’t print more of it. … Gold is scarce, thus it does have value”

That does not even vaguely explain why gold has gone up five fold in ten years. You’re mumbling a bunch of random sentences and hoping it magically forms a point.

“And a currency will only have value if it is backed by something who’s value is intrinsic.”

A currency has value when you can exchange it for valuable things period, not when it has some legally required exchange rate with some commodity. A gold standard is price-fixing, plain and simple.

“When it is backed by nothing, we see inflation, economic bubbles and prolonged recessions.”

You see inflation, economic bubbles, and prolonged recession whether or not your currency is a store of intrinsic value – the gold standard doesn’t fix that. We were on a gold standard during the Great Depression.

You fundamentally do not understand what you’re talking about. Even Friedman didn’t advocate the gold standard for exactly the same reason I’m talking about. The only thing the gold standard would do would be to turn gold into essentially the same thing dollars are. There is not enough gold in the world to adequately represent the amount of valuable things in the world – as such, the price of gold would be artificially inflated to ludicrous extremes. You are insisting that gold has some “intrinsic value” even as you acknowledge that its value has gone up fivefold in ten years. Gold as a lustrous metal used in electronics and jewelry has a value – gold as a medium of exchange has a *completely different* value, which is *not* intrinsic.

what big rich country in the world has a big jumbo size government that isn’t facing some serious economic issues trying to support that government and the promises they made??

programs that are mandated to the states by the federal government without the funding for them is were they become unconstitutional

helprins in the perfect place as soon as the change the network to WPNE  world political news entertainment there is as much real news on that network after 5.00pm as there is real wrestling on wwe

If you are unhappy with your paycheck and  perks then you should find a better way to make a living seize the day or learn to be happy were you are

Individual Liberty, is a pretty simple concept and its mind boggling why people continue to fight it. Has media and govt. told you that Americans are just too dumb to handle the responsibility of freedom to the point you actually believe it? You need to be propped up and supported by the big money elites in this country, who by the way dont give a hoot about you because stepping on the little guy is how you climb the financial ladder. The question posed was is head start unconstitutional? The answer was given and explained….the next question was a trap…so you would cut head start? So you have Ron Paul saying yeah head start would be cut…and thats how you end the interview. Ron Paul isnt stupid, he know that if he answers that question with “Yep” then he has to defend it for the next 15 years…Prioritizing cuts is different then cutting everything all at once, but that is the mental picture that was about to be painted and Ron Paul saw right through it. Every other GOP candidate has been trapped by those types of questions…look at Rick Perry or Bachman. Politics is a dirty game, and Dr. Paul is savvy to the tricks the media pulls.

What are you talking about.  Ron Paul says he wants to eliminate these programs, but he would do it over time instead of overnight.  He still wants to eliminate the programs.  What’s the difference in the long run?

Sorry Bob – Ron Paul has made it clear he wants to get rid of all these programs.  He’ll just do it over time – big whoop.  The truth is that he wants is  a country where the rich can just get richer and richer while the rest of us drown.  

I’ve been paying into MY social security account for 45 years, why does any politician think he can “cut” My money?

“You see inflation, economic bubbles, and prolonged recession whether or
not your currency is a store of intrinsic value – the gold standard
doesn’t fix that. We were on a gold standard during the Great
Depression.”

Bubbles are created by the Federal Reserve artificially pumping money into the system. This was certainly the case during the 90′s (the .com bubble) and the 2000′s (the real estate bubble). If we had a gold standard, it would be less likely for the government to do this. And during the Great Depression, FDR began taking us off the gold standard (although it was completely removed under Nixon).

“A currency has value when you can exchange it for valuable things
period, not when it has some legally required exchange rate with some
commodity.”

The gold standard is not a legally required exchange rate. The government does not fix a price to gold. Rather, the free market will set this price based on what gold can buy. This is how free market economics works.

“There is not enough gold in the world to adequately represent the amount of valuable things in the world.”

But there was when we had a gold standard? When did we accumulate “too many things” to the point that we couldn’t back up the dollar with gold? Is there a limit? If so, what is it?

You need to check your info on the EPA portion. It is THANKS to the EPA that we here in TX know about the radioactive water. Thats right… RADIOACTIVE!! That includes the pipes that contain as much as 30-40 years of calcium buildup. Do you know what calcium has a habit of? Storing radiation. The State Gov in TX knew about this and fudged the numbers, rounding the radiation down so it would appear lower than it actually was. Its a problem all over TX. Google it and cry a river because that is the only water you want to drink. We need the EPA because the State Gov is just as corrupt and only concerned about money. The radiation issue still has not been fixed and will take millions to replace those pipes. You can cut the water off but you still have to change the pipes. Metal Recycling companies in many areas of TX cant accept any water storage tanks or pipes due to their contamination. 

“The gold standard is not a legally required exchange rate. The government does not fix a price to gold. Rather, the free market will set this price based on what gold can buy.”

lol, ok, we’re done here. You patently have no clue what you’re talking about.

Did you read my response at all or are you going to stick to your talking points?

I’ll say it again: Ron was never corrupted by the washington system, and thats his accomplishment.
What say you?

If you know that you’re the only no vote then that has to be pretty lonely position. It must take a lot of courage to stand behind your convictions.

Lastly your obfuscating this issue. There is a difference between money received as an entitlement or graft and money received as salary. Not to mention that Ron has opted out of the federal pension.

Hey, its not my fault I have crushed you and you have no answers. Try those two links I posted. Or how about this one. http://mises.org/daily/3056
Oh, and in my earlier postings, I was only trying to say that economic growth CAN occur under a gold standard. I wasn’t trying to prove that a gold standard prevent war or that being off a gold standard prevents us from having long range jet aircraft. Thus your points are mute. Time for you to go home and cry after I have DESTROYED you over and over. Try not to cry to hard. I win.

“being off a gold standard prevents us from having long range jet aircraft”

Oh my Lord, you never even understood the point in the first place.